The fact that there are masochists out there that would do all of these for a temporary level 25 cap is the reason wow classic is the best game of all time. I love this game man.
You do realize every single expansion is the same concept right? I mean anything we farm ends up being obsolete. I see your point but your argument is invalid
@@shivur5073 it's not when you consider the difference between leveling and gearing in endgame to enjoy the game and the super try-hards who grind out thousands of gold in the first week to afford the best possible pre-bis gear just to be a percentage higher than the next guy on the meters. there's levels to it lmao
Only the demon is elite and you dont have to kill them together. A hunter should be able to kite the demon. The warlock does have ranged damage and a pet but a few man group should be able to do it (I reccomend using Big Iron Rods at lvl 225 fishing + bait, it should give you a much higher melee dps because how weapon skill works for fishing rods)
They posted recently that world chest in later areas wont spawn until later phases, you wont be able to do the fishing tournament, so I also don't think you'll be able to get the arena trinket
I’m praying to god the arena trinket quest isn’t active for 25, I just don’t want PvP to be balanced around whether or not you have a trinket from a level 30-40 zone equipped. Also the RFK farming is slightly less degen considering the mantle of thieves and wolfclaw gloves also drop off the trash.
The trinket requires 12 Arena wins. 12! We're talking 5 people MAX on a server who may receive this trinket during the entirety of phase 1 (which is 2 months Max). All this for a trinket that absorbs 3-4 attacks. I wouldn't get your panties in a wad about it. Very few players had this trinket in phase 1 Classic launch.
you are forgetting about layers. SOD will likely be alot bigger than hardcore you may have 40-50 layers so that is 40-50 AGM per 36 hours. There will be alot more AGM than you think there will and it will be sweaty AF. Lets say phase 1 is 6 weeks and we only have 20 layers (HC averages 9 on the one server) That means there is a possible max of 20160 AGM's that can be made. Now obviously that many won't be made but thinking 5 max per server is just silly. @@deejay5897
My guild is still struggling to prog Lich King and this video was the last thing I needed to see to pull a full on Bill Berry. Bill Berry was the drummer of R.E.M. and left 1997 to pursue a quieter life as a farmer. His departure was primarily motivated by health concerns and a desire for a lifestyle change after suffering a brain aneurysm. If I have to watch our fury warrior go afk mid-fight because of his fussy baby again I'm gonna have an aneurysm myself. Ear-regardless, time for some degenerate farming!
@@Bweber24there’s this stuff called grass outside that grows out of the ground. You should go touch it, it’s an absolutely amazing experience. Consider it an elite quest with some of the best quest rewards available.
Really interesting video, I can't wait to meet degens with these kind items! But man, I need to know, what's that "backpack" with the 4 green squeleton heads at the end (5:35)? Never seen this!
its a 1000k heal every 20 mins, in world pvp this could potentially save your butt every 20 mins but yeah i can't imagine anyone wasting that much time for any item at all, let alone a silly green item with a 20 min use effect
While the sweatys out there are spending the entirety of phase 1 just to be op for one fight every 20 mins, ill be in ashenvale having a good as time and rolling them anyway cuz I’ll be in a 40 man.
@@davidaleksovski8717 yeah the quest start lvl25. But... Mekgineer is 34... And lots of mobs before are lvl29 to 32...It is certain that groups will try to do this quest. The Triprunner Dungarees is insane.
@@Average1212 would have to farm 20 days for 8 hours a day with a kill rate of 1 min to get exalted, and even at that its 3k over the required rep so technically shave it down 10 hours so 18.75 days, or in exact hours of that kill rate it would be 9000 minutes (also kills)/150 hours. yeah i can see some sweat lords getting it done but then they wouldint get to raid or pvp and such, just not enough time to do all that unless they spent like 12-16 hours a day playing which most cant do if they have a full time job, only the jobless ones could feasibly do it while doing raids and other stuff, not like they will have time to get both the gurubashi trinket and that bag at the same time, unless they get spooned by a group the trinket as well.
First you only need honored not exalted for the medicine pouch Second read the comment IN A GROUP, your kill rate isn't 1/min if you have a raid farming them.@@Abionx
@@Average1212 why wouldint you farm as much as you can to avoid farming later... thats just dumb. you can go ahead and knock out a large part of the grind for later when you can use the recipes and can get the defender of the timbermaw trinket also doing that. did look it up again since i never bothered for the rep before but apparently cant even farm to exalted off mobs alone, since revered to exalted requires quest turn ins for rep as the only option at that point. also i dont see huge raid groups forming just for that medicine pouch, its okay but not worth that much to farm to that degree over, especially since its pointless within a lil over a month, just a waste of time when you could use that time hoarding mats for the later phases for gold and to lvl your proffs fast.
The community will optimize the fun out of this game as well. We truly are the cancer we are trying to run from in order to have a true classic experience. Wherever we go, there the cancer is.
while this might be BIS for Fire mage, Robes of Arugal is 10x easier to get and just about as good because of how Fire mages scale with spell crit + extra mana.
So used to fire and arcane as the same spec but with weeks before level cap is raised a 5 man of mages and warlocks will definitely try to take him down.
Sup Tcan, love your vids. I can confirm, furbold medicine pouch and arena grand master trinket is OP. That trinket (2 of em) + furbolg medicine pouch allowed my level 1 rogue to gank people 20+ levels higher than him. 😅 Was it fun? Fuck yeah. Was it worth the insane amount of effort to get all of that on a level 1? Probably, if you're a madman like I am. I wouldn't do that again though. 😂 Low level arena grand master is easily 10x harder if you don't have max level rogues helping you just because they love the gurabashi arena PVP experience and don't need the trinket. I got lucky to meet those kind souls.
hopefully the raid drops from intended content will be better than farming 1000 mobs in rfk/felwood. i'd probably unsub if i see a full unemployed raid cheese mechanics with pouches/arena masters. nerf it and give pvpers survivability rewards would be my dev choice
Exactly. That's the way it needs to be. Players should not be rewarded or incentivized for farming content that should be level gated. Not every is Asmonvirgin and can wrangle up 100 players to help him do a level 40 quest. Or at the very least, put a tooltip on items like arena master which state "Only works in Battlegrounds or the Ashenvale PVP map".
Disagree with most of the items. +spell damage or +specific school of magic. These will in my opinion be pure garbage, virtually gray vendor items. Spellpower coefficients are very very very very low for low rank spells. Effectively you give up int/stam and gain nothing in return. I would actively avoid SP to lvl 40, and even at 40+ I would never sacrifice int or stamina for SP.
So do you think dps wise it’s still better to stack raw stats? Like, will the extra mana from int equate to more damage than spell power via more spells cast?
It is not based off spell rank. This is how it works: before talents, (Base Cast Time)/3.5=spell damage coefficient. You may be thinking of the fact that low ranked spells have a faster cast time. This is true, and they do receive less spell damage because of their faster cast time, but it is not just because they are low rank. By level 25 all spells will have the same base cast time as their max rank counterparts. Example: (Level 1) Shadow Bolt (Rank 1) 1.7/3.5=48.5% (Level 20)Shadow Bolt (Rank 3) 3/3.5=85.7% (Level 60) Shadow Bolt (Rank 10) 3/3.5=85.7% Notice how rank 3 and rank 10 have the same spell damage coefficient. Some spells have slightly different scaling due to added effects, but this is the baseline.
@@jaytee9111 I was going to write the same thing about coeff= n/3.5. And add that lvl24 the mages have their first fire ball at 3.5 sec. The scaling formula is also the reason why healers derank.
The alternative then would be the Rose Colored Goggles that require engineering 230, can be learned at a trainer, and only need 2 extra thick leather to craft. Only gnomes will be able to use it but they will get +12 int from it which I believe is the most possible for a headpiece at lvl 25.
Sod is a pile of unbalanced shit with a major faction imbalance it will be dead before they let you get to 60..lol........i predicted this already. and with guilds already doing hard reserves for raid loot pve will die at 60 fast and you will have to buy illegal wow gold and do gdkps for any loot.......another prediction.
Downvoted for misleading me to believe guru trinket was in the game and making me waste my time going there just to see its not added til next level band.
The fact that there are masochists out there that would do all of these for a temporary level 25 cap is the reason wow classic is the best game of all time. I love this game man.
Half the people in Classic Wow are going to be decked out in this degen stuff.
You do realize every single expansion is the same concept right? I mean anything we farm ends up being obsolete. I see your point but your argument is invalid
If 1 phase will be long enough you start to see it as must have items for dungeon groups on phase 2. "LF Tank RFK Pouch or kick"
@@shivur5073 it's not when you consider the difference between leveling and gearing in endgame to enjoy the game and the super try-hards who grind out thousands of gold in the first week to afford the best possible pre-bis gear just to be a percentage higher than the next guy on the meters. there's levels to it lmao
"irregardless" is a double negative and nonword. the word you are looking for is "regardless"
If all you have to do with your time is correct someone's grammar on a RUclips video I suggest you go outside more.
there is an engi helm with +15 stam however the engi req is high enough only gnomes with engi can equip it in phase 1.
Just get a lucky fishing hat, np
on a populated pvp server good luck with that as alliance @@Slashoom
the sweatiest guide so far. i like it.
Irregardless still hurts to hear cant believe it was added to the dictionary...
I just hope that the BFD loot will invalidate something in this video
Of course it will. It will be "raid" rewards. I.e. probably LVL 26-27ish Blue items.
Basalt Buckler shield. Level 25 quest to kill 2 level 40 elites. Highest armor/block chance available at level 25
Only the demon is elite and you dont have to kill them together. A hunter should be able to kite the demon. The warlock does have ranged damage and a pet but a few man group should be able to do it (I reccomend using Big Iron Rods at lvl 225 fishing + bait, it should give you a much higher melee dps because how weapon skill works for fishing rods)
requires level 26
Irregardless is not a word...
They posted recently that world chest in later areas wont spawn until later phases, you wont be able to do the fishing tournament, so I also don't think you'll be able to get the arena trinket
What are some of the best quest item/fun items like the Furbolg wand from Ashenvale, in SOD Phase 1 while we wait?
I’m praying to god the arena trinket quest isn’t active for 25, I just don’t want PvP to be balanced around whether or not you have a trinket from a level 30-40 zone equipped. Also the RFK farming is slightly less degen considering the mantle of thieves and wolfclaw gloves also drop off the trash.
The trinket requires 12 Arena wins. 12! We're talking 5 people MAX on a server who may receive this trinket during the entirety of phase 1 (which is 2 months Max). All this for a trinket that absorbs 3-4 attacks. I wouldn't get your panties in a wad about it. Very few players had this trinket in phase 1 Classic launch.
People will be there at lvl 1
you are forgetting about layers. SOD will likely be alot bigger than hardcore you may have 40-50 layers so that is 40-50 AGM per 36 hours.
There will be alot more AGM than you think there will and it will be sweaty AF.
Lets say phase 1 is 6 weeks and we only have 20 layers (HC averages 9 on the one server) That means there is a possible max of 20160 AGM's that can be made. Now obviously that many won't be made but thinking 5 max per server is just silly.
@@deejay5897
good point lol
Bruh you think PvP is gonna be balanced at all? Especially at such a low level? You're dreaming
My guild is still struggling to prog Lich King and this video was the last thing I needed to see to pull a full on Bill Berry. Bill Berry was the drummer of R.E.M. and left 1997 to pursue a quieter life as a farmer. His departure was primarily motivated by health concerns and a desire for a lifestyle change after suffering a brain aneurysm. If I have to watch our fury warrior go afk mid-fight because of his fussy baby again I'm gonna have an aneurysm myself. Ear-regardless, time for some degenerate farming!
please dont compare R.E.M to a guild struggling on a 15 year old boss
@@Bahtou1 Both reflect the power of storytelling and artistic expression within their respective mediums.
😂
@@Bweber24there’s this stuff called grass outside that grows out of the ground. You should go touch it, it’s an absolutely amazing experience. Consider it an elite quest with some of the best quest rewards available.
Vanilla players talk about how easy retail is and can't even clear 15 year old solved content lmao
Really interesting video, I can't wait to meet degens with these kind items!
But man, I need to know, what's that "backpack" with the 4 green squeleton heads at the end (5:35)? Never seen this!
That's a shield from Naxx. iirc it is a healer shield
@@rainbowmountain42 thank you very much, my hero!
not a healer shield.. it's a ele shaman shield and holy paladin shield@@rainbowmountain42
only thing worth getting in the video is the arena gran master, and that will be toxic as hell!
The furblog farm is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. For 10 stam? That would be truly psychotic
its a 1000k heal every 20 mins, in world pvp this could potentially save your butt every 20 mins
but yeah i can't imagine anyone wasting that much time for any item at all, let alone a silly green item with a 20 min use effect
no shit; how do u even know this kind of stuff, you guys are sweatier than the bosses at the gym!@spacegoat_69
hmmm the medicine pouch gives +10 stam as an offhand yet I can get one with +4 stam and + shadow res and int from bfd so why waste my time
Man I know Classic players are degens but surely no one is actually gonna go to the effort of grinding Timbermaw rep at lvl 25...
Form a raid group. I would never do it but it will be done.
No it won't be done. 10 stamina is worthless. It's not even a DPS increase.@@Average1212
There will be dueling tourneys for good amounts of money, if you think no one will do it you are delusional.@@cococock2418
"Irregardless" isn't a word.
If you understood its meaning then it's a word. That's how all words work.
there s no way i ll kill 3000 lvl 52 at lvl 25 for a some health
While the sweatys out there are spending the entirety of phase 1 just to be op for one fight every 20 mins, ill be in ashenvale having a good as time and rolling them anyway cuz I’ll be in a 40 man.
gnomer quest for lastboss, gives insane agi legs
is pickable at 25?
@@davidaleksovski8717
yeah the quest start lvl25. But... Mekgineer is 34... And lots of mobs before are lvl29 to 32...It is certain that groups will try to do this quest. The Triprunner Dungarees is insane.
@@trorisk
cool, i guess it would be a great challenge
They teased Gnomeregan as a raid in phase 2 so I'm not sure if we can even enter gnomeregan at phase 1.
Yeah, unlike garbage hardcore it's worth a try here because worst case scenario you die and go do something else.@@davidaleksovski8717
LF39M Pouch Farm!
i believe you get diminished rep after 5 man party - but that could be a misconception and it might be dependent on tagging
this kind of stuff makes me wish for a better alternative mmo.
Nope. Don't play then.
dude even if u start killing those timbermaw mobs on day1 phase2 will come before u get honored. Maybe at phase 2 some degens will grind it.
no it will be farmed by a group of people, it is only an insurmountable task if done solo.
@@Average1212 would have to farm 20 days for 8 hours a day with a kill rate of 1 min to get exalted, and even at that its 3k over the required rep so technically shave it down 10 hours so 18.75 days, or in exact hours of that kill rate it would be 9000 minutes (also kills)/150 hours.
yeah i can see some sweat lords getting it done but then they wouldint get to raid or pvp and such, just not enough time to do all that unless they spent like 12-16 hours a day playing which most cant do if they have a full time job, only the jobless ones could feasibly do it while doing raids and other stuff, not like they will have time to get both the gurubashi trinket and that bag at the same time, unless they get spooned by a group the trinket as well.
First you only need honored not exalted for the medicine pouch
Second read the comment IN A GROUP, your kill rate isn't 1/min if you have a raid farming them.@@Abionx
@@Average1212 why wouldint you farm as much as you can to avoid farming later... thats just dumb. you can go ahead and knock out a large part of the grind for later when you can use the recipes and can get the defender of the timbermaw trinket also doing that.
did look it up again since i never bothered for the rep before but apparently cant even farm to exalted off mobs alone, since revered to exalted requires quest turn ins for rep as the only option at that point.
also i dont see huge raid groups forming just for that medicine pouch, its okay but not worth that much to farm to that degree over, especially since its pointless within a lil over a month, just a waste of time when you could use that time hoarding mats for the later phases for gold and to lvl your proffs fast.
because your kill times later are 10-15 seconds....... There seems to be alot you don't understand here
@@Abionx
The community will optimize the fun out of this game as well. We truly are the cancer we are trying to run from in order to have a true classic experience.
Wherever we go, there the cancer is.
Basically none of these made it into the game, man RUclips’s click bait sod so hard
This is the. I have no job, no life and live in my moms basement item list. No skill required. Just a fair amount of autism :)
People will farm for gear for the next phase
There will be raids to timbermaw mark my words
Can't wait for GDKPs and metas to ruin this to
inferno robes from wanted: Baron Vardon quest
while this might be BIS for Fire mage, Robes of Arugal is 10x easier to get and just about as good because of how Fire mages scale with spell crit + extra mana.
might be funny for warlock destro fire? could scale like crazy
So used to fire and arcane as the same spec but with weeks before level cap is raised a 5 man of mages and warlocks will definitely try to take him down.
Cool. I won’t be doing any of this.🙃
225 engi is not "absolute max", gnomes get 240
those degen gnomes ; )
Legit no one is going to farm 5000 furbolgs at lvl 25 no one is even gonna do it at lvl 60
You are right usually if you are going to do it you start it at level 48 and grind to 60 to get it. BTW lots of people do it.
Cant have 225 skill in phase one FIXED.
This is some degen shit lmfao holy fuck 😂
100% someone will farm those furbolgs at level 25.hjahaha
Yeah i think i will just fish for mageweave lol
Sup Tcan, love your vids.
I can confirm, furbold medicine pouch and arena grand master trinket is OP.
That trinket (2 of em) + furbolg medicine pouch allowed my level 1 rogue to gank people 20+ levels higher than him. 😅
Was it fun? Fuck yeah.
Was it worth the insane amount of effort to get all of that on a level 1? Probably, if you're a madman like I am. I wouldn't do that again though. 😂
Low level arena grand master is easily 10x harder if you don't have max level rogues helping you just because they love the gurabashi arena PVP experience and don't need the trinket. I got lucky to meet those kind souls.
I think that SOD - if they are smart, will implement better gear alternatives that are more easily accessible by completing the new content.
Irregardless.
irregardless
hopefully the raid drops from intended content will be better than farming 1000 mobs in rfk/felwood. i'd probably unsub if i see a full unemployed raid cheese mechanics with pouches/arena masters. nerf it and give pvpers survivability rewards would be my dev choice
Exactly. That's the way it needs to be. Players should not be rewarded or incentivized for farming content that should be level gated. Not every is Asmonvirgin and can wrangle up 100 players to help him do a level 40 quest. Or at the very least, put a tooltip on items like arena master which state "Only works in Battlegrounds or the Ashenvale PVP map".
as first boss in BFD drops everything in this video downvoted and blocked
Disagree with most of the items. +spell damage or +specific school of magic. These will in my opinion be pure garbage, virtually gray vendor items. Spellpower coefficients are very very very very low for low rank spells. Effectively you give up int/stam and gain nothing in return. I would actively avoid SP to lvl 40, and even at 40+ I would never sacrifice int or stamina for SP.
So do you think dps wise it’s still better to stack raw stats? Like, will the extra mana from int equate to more damage than spell power via more spells cast?
It is not based off spell rank. This is how it works: before talents, (Base Cast Time)/3.5=spell damage coefficient. You may be thinking of the fact that low ranked spells have a faster cast time. This is true, and they do receive less spell damage because of their faster cast time, but it is not just because they are low rank. By level 25 all spells will have the same base cast time as their max rank counterparts.
Example:
(Level 1) Shadow Bolt (Rank 1) 1.7/3.5=48.5%
(Level 20)Shadow Bolt (Rank 3) 3/3.5=85.7%
(Level 60) Shadow Bolt (Rank 10) 3/3.5=85.7%
Notice how rank 3 and rank 10 have the same spell damage coefficient.
Some spells have slightly different scaling due to added effects, but this is the baseline.
@@jaytee9111
I was going to write the same thing about coeff= n/3.5. And add that lvl24 the mages have their first fire ball at 3.5 sec.
The scaling formula is also the reason why healers derank.
The alternative then would be the Rose Colored Goggles that require engineering 230, can be learned at a trainer, and only need 2 extra thick leather to craft. Only gnomes will be able to use it but they will get +12 int from it which I believe is the most possible for a headpiece at lvl 25.
Tittle should be useful items for no lifers.
Sod is a pile of unbalanced shit with a major faction imbalance it will be dead before they let you get to 60..lol........i predicted this already.
and with guilds already doing hard reserves for raid loot pve will die at 60 fast and you will have to buy illegal wow gold and do gdkps for any loot.......another prediction.
Downvoted for misleading me to believe guru trinket was in the game and making me waste my time going there just to see its not added til next level band.
hahahahahahah
You forgot the most powerful weapon in the game at that level. Gravestone Scepter. (If the quest still exists).
I'm gonna get them all. Keep a look out for Bighammerboy on the PVP realm. I'm Scarab Lord on 4 characters, this is nothing.
Most of them are way too degen for me. Sorry.