Man.... I read the rules of the giveaway, and it looks like I missed this one by almost 55 years... The date seems to be set for December 31, 1969, the beginning of the epoch. Or is it just me?
i like them. i've got the zen2. one question i have - you clocked the macro record function at 10 seconds..? if that's accurate then it's been severely nerfed from the _10 minute_ macro of the zen2.
If they're gonna slap "Pro" on there for the love of god make the battery replaceable. Why buy these fancy hall affect joysticks when there is literally an expiration date built in to the battery.
I like the controller but the only things that suck about it are that the gyro and back buttons only work in switch mode, and the back buttons can't be mapped through Steam input they can only be mapped to other buttons on the controller . And then sometimes it has pretty bad input lag but I can't pin down what's causing it
@captainfach I think I heard it's the battery and I also hear 2.4g thingy isn't as stable as wired same with Bluetooth but in general it's just a bit wonky sometimes with the ms input thing I've never had it and this is just what I can remember from watching past reviews on it
It's a wireless controller of course there's going to be input delay If you're really worried about that you're going to need to buy a wired controller of some kind.
@@bland9876 By your reply I assume you don't really understand how input delay works so let me explain. Actually it doesn't matter if it's wired or wireless. Take the DS4 as example: it'll have the very same input delay in both USB and BT. Measuring the input delay ultimately gives you absolute data over the quality of the connection. You'll know the update rate and the max time between a buton press and the moment of arrival on PC to be processed. It's also possible to measure consistency in that delivery rate. By this measurement alone one can infer reliability and speed. The worst controller I got this measurement was the 8bitdo SN30 pro+. This controller is a real tragedy. The update rate is slow and full of dummy entries. Also the input delay is way beyond the upper threshold to be considered enough for a good experience. I also got data that a friend measured from a gullikit controller and it was the same. The only controller I got good data from was the first party ones: Xbox controllers, Playstation controllers and Nintendo controlers. Those zero latency boards that are used for arcade sticks also have amazing input delay.
I have the original in black. I do really like it BUT.. the replaceable button caps, while being a convenient feature, do mean that if your hands get too sweaty, they can pull the caps off in the middle of play. That's a real bummer. Really hope they figure out a way to prevent that. Some of those new features are nice though. I wish I had the sliders.
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I think there was a typo in the rules
This sweepstakes shall draw one (1) Entrant at random on or before Wednesday, December 31st 1969
It's a shame that I listened to you and bought it.
This controller works awful with the Steam Deck and you didn't bothered to mention that
That color scheme is more Game Boy DMG than NES.
Do you recommend the gulikit kk3 pro or snakebyte gamepad base x for linux gaming?
Man.... I read the rules of the giveaway, and it looks like I missed this one by almost 55 years... The date seems to be set for December 31, 1969, the beginning of the epoch. Or is it just me?
i like them. i've got the zen2. one question i have - you clocked the macro record function at 10 seconds..? if that's accurate then it's been severely nerfed from the _10 minute_ macro of the zen2.
Looks almost exactly like the GameSir Nova with the Game Boy color theme and the RGB analog rings
Hell yes with the SimCity3000 soundtrack. Grew up listening to this nonstop on my dinky mp3 player.
Hello, good video, and thank you for making a comparison between both, what each control comes with and what it needs, very well explained.
If they're gonna slap "Pro" on there for the love of god make the battery replaceable. Why buy these fancy hall affect joysticks when there is literally an expiration date built in to the battery.
@@juts89 isnt that what the wires for?
It is replaceable just unscrew the back and put a new one in
I assume the gyro is still Switch mode only?
Did they fix the sticky buttons from the KK2?
I like the controller but the only things that suck about it are that the gyro and back buttons only work in switch mode, and the back buttons can't be mapped through Steam input they can only be mapped to other buttons on the controller . And then sometimes it has pretty bad input lag but I can't pin down what's causing it
@captainfach I think I heard it's the battery and I also hear 2.4g thingy isn't as stable as wired same with Bluetooth but in general it's just a bit wonky sometimes with the ms input thing I've never had it and this is just what I can remember from watching past reviews on it
Why does the giveaway say it ends on or before December 31st, 1969?
Glitchez n' stuff
@@gardiner_bryantso I'll take that as a yes
I ❤ controller if free for me
Does It work on ps5?
Is the giveaway worldwide? (I'm from Europe, Spain)
seems not, rules state you must have a shipping address in US or Canada
@@toromac9786 lol, I was looking the page and didn't find anything like that, but it does make sense I believe you.
Thank you
hum... why no one ever measure input delay? That measurement will tell if the controller is good of just garbage.
It's a wireless controller of course there's going to be input delay If you're really worried about that you're going to need to buy a wired controller of some kind.
@@bland9876 By your reply I assume you don't really understand how input delay works so let me explain. Actually it doesn't matter if it's wired or wireless. Take the DS4 as example: it'll have the very same input delay in both USB and BT.
Measuring the input delay ultimately gives you absolute data over the quality of the connection. You'll know the update rate and the max time between a buton press and the moment of arrival on PC to be processed. It's also possible to measure consistency in that delivery rate.
By this measurement alone one can infer reliability and speed.
The worst controller I got this measurement was the 8bitdo SN30 pro+. This controller is a real tragedy. The update rate is slow and full of dummy entries. Also the input delay is way beyond the upper threshold to be considered enough for a good experience. I also got data that a friend measured from a gullikit controller and it was the same. The only controller I got good data from was the first party ones: Xbox controllers, Playstation controllers and Nintendo controlers. Those zero latency boards that are used for arcade sticks also have amazing input delay.
It’s 1ms with wire or 2.4ghz dongle
@@TVCHLORD Highly doubt. This demands a pooling rate above 500hz. And the best we have now is DS4/Dualsense that are 250Hz.
First of all, I love your moustache, I hope mine would look like that one day and this was a great review
More features are more better, but that all white color scheme is blinding. If I get one, I'll opt for the all black color scheme.
I have the original in black. I do really like it BUT.. the replaceable button caps, while being a convenient feature, do mean that if your hands get too sweaty, they can pull the caps off in the middle of play. That's a real bummer. Really hope they figure out a way to prevent that. Some of those new features are nice though. I wish I had the sliders.