PGA Tour 2K23 vs PGA Tour 2K21 - Side by Side Comparisons
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- I go through 3 holes of each game to show you all the differences I was able to find behind each game. What does PGA 2K21 look like compared to PGA 2K23?
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I tried not to ramble too much but I always do anyway. What do you think about the comparisons between the two games?
I thought you did a great job packing a lot of info into the video for us degenerates who can’t wait to get our hands on the game. 🤪
What's a Respawn video without a ramble or ten?
Loved it! Do we have options for different camera angles while the balls in flight?
@@smallfry3270 That is facts right there.
@@Andrew-rk7sb Yep, all the ones from 2K21 are still there.
I actually liked that slight wind sound and just birds chirping a bit in 2k21. It was relaxing and you felt like you were there playing on a nice summer day.
Such a vibe🙏🏼
True
That's one of the things I love about the Great golf and games also, also the planes flying overhead in the distance, xcetera
"I just wanted to show you 3 holes." 👀 That's what she said. Too easy.
Outstanding comparison. Looking forward to your other videos. I'm so anxious to get my first round in.
Thank you. To me it just looks like PGA2K21 has been patched. The ball flight was always a bit strange, so at least they’ve improved that. I’m not sure if it’s £60 worth of improvements though. I like to design a lot but we’ve not really seen the new improvements in action. I just hope they’ve improved the transition between water and rough/fairway. It always gave you bare earth along the margins of river or lake. You should be able to run the fairway down to the water, like you see at Augusta for instance. The bunker lips also needed some work. They varied a lot depending on what course type you used.
They've put very little effort into this title. They'll get smoked by EA in March when they drop their game. PGA2K needs a new engine.
@@jamies2688 agreed, I sold my 2k23 copy and back to 21 until something else appears
I was using golf club 2 up till I found it was put offline, I have gone and bought 2k21.
@@orcue70 I recently bought 2K23 at a bargain price and, I must say, it’s very good for a course designer. It seems so much faster and they’ve recently added some more assets.
@@ianknight2053 thanks for update, ill probably get that after this! hopefully this one doesn't go offline, i just like to play against the computer
27:40. I wish the putting animations would go into a tiger fist pump, but if you miss it, stop short of the fist pump and do a disappointing animation. But if it goes in, it goes into the fist pump. They could make several of these animations. It would put a little drama/excitement into putting. They could also have the golfer walk it in, but if he/she misses it, then throw there hands up in disappointment. But if he/she makes it, keep walking it in and pick it up from the hole. Minor things, but could make the feel of the game sooooo much better.
I agree. The animation of the golfer needs a little more life on the putting green. Something I hope they look at moving forward.
Incredible video. Learned a lot. Thank you!
Differences look pretty minor. Was hoping for a next gen golf game. Will wait for more info on EA's PGA 23 before forking out the dough.
Ranked in 2k23 is wack. I aim straight move my stick perfect and have all my clubs upgraded and my ball still goes way off course. Don’t understand it.
Great vid respawn , keep up the great work , any chance of letting us know or sending us a link to the vid where you did that fabulous albatross on tgc tours . Would be awesome if you did a vid of all your great shots from 2k21 .
This is something I have written down to do for this year's cycle. Didn't really have the time to do it for this past cycle unfortunately
I'm sharing this video with our society. Half want to make the move others aren't sure. Very well done, thanks for the content and keep up the great work.
It looks exactly the same so why would anyone get the new game? I have it preordered as it's the only game my wife plays and she demands it but if it were up to me I'd pass, just looks the same to me.
this is most excellent! Very thorough!
Excellent video! Well thought out and presented.
I just purchased Xbox x and want to play side by side with my partner but can’t seem to be able too do that can you give me step by step on how to do that?
was thinking about getting the Series S ...can two people play against each other with one controller ? i still have a 360
I’m expecting you’ve given feedback to HB/2K excellent video
Ohhhh yeah I have.
02:35 - missing icons near each info line
Just recently came back to golf in real life and was wanting a new golf game and unfortunately EA isnt till march and as much as i hate EA it definitely looks more promising. Stuck between buying 2k21 or 2k23 and unfortunately im OCD and have to make the perfect purchase. So im researching every aspect between these games. Unfortunately ive found myself very indecisive on this one. In anyone's honest opinion and keep in mind i do want to immerge myself in the online side of this game + i prefer a more realistic game that being said which game would you suggest? Also would like to be able to play with my father as i gave him my old xbox one x and i have the series s..... That all being said 2k21 or 2k23? Any opinions would be super appreciated!
I think about it different, I want to support golf games since there are not many. If they don't sell we don't get any more. So what I do is buy all of them. In your case I would get 2k23 since that is the new and where most real tournaments most likely moved over. Same with the course designer, probably more courses for 2k21 but new courses will be made for the new game.
So yeah get 2k23 and then buy EA PGA Tour later when on discount since that game will be 70€ at launch which is steep price for a golf game in my opinion.
As someone who has played every major golf game for the last 30 plus years, I want my money back for the first time. (Not even demanding it for Rory and the other EA crap. Even Microprose David Leadbetter's golf on floppy disk was 'better'.
Menus SUCK, game is easier amd too arcadie with unfinished forced deventcgraphically cinematic. Cameras don't even show the game 'better'. The gameplay is so arcadie with both fluidity or realism. It was like, take colors way up and graphics slightly up and try to bring a glorious polished presentation. It is Madden 25 like. No weight, no feel, not finished, with less character creativity than a game from 2003. The menus are disgustingly awful. Categorically, almost impossible to navigate, moronic and with little or no detail in areas that should have detail. The more independent 2019 or 2K21 had much 'better' menus and navigation. It isn't close. Some things are broken and have to be circumnavigated to get to work. The setup is tedious, poorly done graphically, simplistic and in pure settings of clubs and balls, overly complex. -Sometimes, that's a great thing.- Not here. I'm not playing with a Yellow Titleist PRO V1. Copyright garbage. 130 dollars for MJ's panties and you don't even get them. No extras were given besides VC. >Not Vietcong
Maybe youtube is making these look worse cause i remember the tiger woods games on ps2 and ps3 looking better
no ,2k are just lazy gits, relying on the name of tiger woods to sell the game.
2 years and new platform... still looks the same : ( ...hopefully they revamp 2k24. PUT A GOOD LOBBY IN! Lessons learned.
which should I buy pga tour 2k23 or 2k21?
Nothing has come out yet that can beat Rory MclIroy PGA Tour, nothing, good controls, no click while the slide is in the right position crap, best commentators ever… “That’s like kissing your mother in law” epic.
It was a great game of course but the graphics looks terrible for 2023🙄!
Positive differences! One thing I noticed was the Driver sound.. SO much better in 23 🔥
Now this is what video should come out asap every time, comparison so we can see in full circle what we are dealing with, wish the graphics were 1000x better but what can you do, only so much a game can do in a year or two even, but still undecided on getting it, I need a golf game tho asap lol
just keep on playing the old. i hope for a small xmass discount hehe
Player models look pulled from another generation down to the dead eyes lol the way the fabric reacts down to the textures/models of the environment the game leaves a LOT to be desired imo and isnt a huge upgrade over the original visually however i kinda dig the new power meter
Excellent video I can tell you really spent a lot of time preparing this and it was very well done. So many people are saying the game is overpriced and they didnt change a lot blah blah. I will refer those people to your videos. Definitely makes me even more excited to play this game next week
When it comes to gameplay and overall immersion/presentation/animation the game has changed quite dramatically for sure. Appreciate you sharing it!
Thanks so much for your unselfish support of the community. Much appreciated by these elderly folk, hubby and I are in our 70’s. Without your videos we would be struggling big time. ❤
Thanks for the work but damn, we still not have a good next gen graphical golf game, as years pass its Always the same shit, beetween 2k21 and 2k23 no great changes!
a lot of small changes can give a very different feel tho, from what i see this will be alof better gameplay wise. i rather
have bettet gameplay than better graphics
@@wout123100 why not both good gameplay and good graphism?
Setting it to 1.25x speed gives a perfect tempo for the commentary for me as a quick listener.
Great video Mr. Respawn, lots of attention to detail with some time to soak in the info.
1.5 even better
Thank you for the informative video. They have to fix animations syncing up with the power correctly. Otherwise it's going to be a miserable experience. Chipping and putting will look completely off and unrealistic. At first I thought it looked unrealistic, because they increased the chipping distance. However now I know that it's just that the animations aren't in sync with the power. I can't believe how out of sync it is. This would be like if you pushed the trigger button while playing MWII and the gun wouldn't shoot until .5 seconds after you press it. Hopefully this is the number one thing that they are working on.
So, I wouldn't say it is a miserable experience after playing it. It takes a lot of getting used to the way that it is now. If you don't use vibration, it will be awful because you are guessing for the first 20 percent. I hope it gets fixed, but if it doesn't it's not something that completely ruins the experience imo, but it is an annoyance.
Legend is too easy in 2k23. It is called LEGEND DIFFICULTY grey area should be very small but its not anymore😢😢😢.
Nahh on the putting I do what that character does on the golf course but turn my body left or right like if thats gonna control the ball to make it go in the hole lmao
As a golfer I wasn't impressed with 2K21. Basic real life options like moving your ball position on the tee box, mulligans and gimmes when playing a course were not in 2K21. Are these options available in 2K23? Is it supposed to be a 3D environment and if so why can't you move your point of view to anywhere on a course? Why are there divots on the tee boxes of par 4's and par 5"s? The course graphics still look way too pristine. Real life courses don't look like this. The short game in 2k21 was fantasy as you could hit shots like what they called a pitch shot with a carry distance of 125 yards using a 5 iron with the trajectory of a 9 iron. I understand that in 2K23 they have restricted their so called splash shot to bunkers. I hope they have also added a thump sound instead of the one in 2K21 where it sounded like you just hit a full iron shot. The drop option in 2K21 did not follow the rules of golf. Is there more than one camera position for replays and can you choose the camera rather than the one default replay camera in 2K21? I had a list of about 2 dozen suggestions for HB Studios but was never approved for their forum. From what I've seen so far I would say that Woods didn't have any direct input in to 2K23.
Not a big enough difference for me. I personally don't like the swing meter in the way so to speak it just takes away from the immersiveness.
I'll wait for EA. I do own 2k21.
Thanks for this. This is why I made the comment that it looks like the same game.
Superb video. Really good 👍👏👏👏👏 Lucky for me, I've never used sliders, power bars of any nature. I like the realism of a minamilistic screen and a realistic game.
No cross play, top golf...who cares! still cannot use ur own courses in career...big no! 3 click...who cares! slightly sharpened graphics..... and they want £70-100 for their game...lmao! not a prayer.
no one forces you to buy the game right now. wait for a sale.
So..... its the same game?
Great video. Your attention to detail shows that you play the real thing. It looks like the game is becoming more of a simulator then ever. That’s what drew me to the game to begin with. I’ve played golf since I was a kid and need a video game version when I can’t get on the course in real life. Look forward to the game and future videos. What’s your society? I’ll join once I build my character up a bit.
I had a name picked out but it might be different. There will be a video on it when the game launches and I'll announce it on my socials.
Great Video full of great information. Everything I was looking for .
Excellent work - thanks for walking us through it in such a clear way … keep up the great work
Honestly the power bar change really turns me off. I got 2K23 for free with PSplus and i already got 2k21 for free with ps plus as well, and i way prefer the power bar being less intrusive on 21
You are great. Best PGA 2k content on RUclips.
Serious question here, why do people who play on PC use a controller for this game? Like, mouse control of up and down swing is just so much easier than an analog stick, no? At least this is how I feel personally. Would love to get your opinion on it! Apologies if you have explained this before.
For me it is specifically sticking with what I know. I have played video golf games with a controller my whole life. I have played this game with a controller the entire time. Instead of sitting down and learning a new form of accuracy and tempo on a mouse, sticking with what I know is easier and also feels better to me personally.
@@MoreRespawn Thanks for the answer! Always love hearing peoples preferences.
Not enough to pull the rigger on buying it. Nic e menu change but graphically the same
No inflight watching of your shot. Makes 2k21 better
It would be much easier to see the ball flight if you had ball trail on. If you hadn't circled the ball once on awhile couldn't see the ball...
Something I wish I would have done for this.
This is the worst purchase i have ever done for a golf game and I've played so many golf games, worst swing mechanic, graphics are xbox one early days, the crowd are just pathetic all standing with zero movement, the lighting is so bad, shadows ,if you can call them that are bad too. Micro transactions are a joke, the commentary is the worse I've ever heard, its all over the show and they just keep chatting about cr*p all the time.
That sucks.
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I've enjoyed playing PGA Tour 2k21 but I can never hit the ball consistently straight when playing above PRO Am difficulty, it's too hard for me. I play on Xbox Series X and I just can't seem to hit the ball consistently without hitting it way off to the side..I try to play on higher difficulty but then I have to turn it back to Am difficulty. I hope the new 3 click system in 2k23 is a good new way to play.
It absolutely will be. It will take some practice and getting used to but it's good.
You've misinterpreted the change in camera angle as a change in ball flight
So, you think ball flight hasn't changed at all?
One massive thing I've noticed in a couple videos that is shown perfectly here is there seems to be an issue with the stance on shorter irons (especially if your feet are above the ball). At 38:37 you can see his club is almost pointing above his belly button and the club face is super flat (lie angle). The thing that gives it away is the angle of the players wrist, it looks almost broken with the way it's bent to get the club at that angle. It's a tradeoff compared to the club being embedded in the ground all the time like in 2K21, but it's definitely something that has stuck out like a sore thumb to me. I hope I either get used to it or it gets patched.
Yeah, what sucks is I think it is rock and a hard place for them. You either have the entire club faze through the ground like you can kind of see on the left there or have it how it is in 2K23. I probably prefer 2K23 with that still in my opinion.
Zane, dude that was an Awesome video!!! I really hope they fix that swing/power and animation delay… no wonder partial chips are so difficult. FYI this is Glacier on ur Lions game stream, great stuff there too
I hope they fix it too or at least tune it somehow.
Your New Step Dad 😂😂😂! I love it ❤😂💯
Hi Everyone 😉 MINIGOLF MOUNTAIN will be published tomorrow at 6pm.. Just adding the crowds and a bit of backround .. No Pitch shots allowed.. Strictly Putters !! loads of nutty holes plus a few normal ones.. will be something different than the norm.. If ya see a STOP sign.. just turn around .. youll have to have to have a good look around... but its Just a bit of FUN !! its on PS4 2K21 :-)
So is it easier to play on 2k23 overall than in 2k21? I'm asking becouse online in 2k21 was for me a littlebit to hard. Actually, it was harder for me to play pro in the game than to actually play golf irl. That's why I didn't play any online modes at all in 2k21.
Which platform would offer the best 2k23 gaming experience in your opinion: Series X or PC? Don't really care about the graphics differences but mostly communities and MP experience.
PC is usually always the first casualty in a dwindling player base for online features. If you are looking to continue to get MP lobbies and Divot Derby lobbies I would say go XBOX. As far as communities they are probably pretty even. You will be able to find anything you want community wise on both platforms. If you don't care about graphics/frame rates, I would say go XBOX.
@@MoreRespawn Good to know. Thanks for all the great content on 2k!
Does any1 know if you need a deluxe edition to get Jordam apparel or is it also available in the standard edition?
I wish they wouldn't knock off 20 yards off your tee shots because you hit a draw. Do you think the roll out makes it about equal to hitting a stock straight shot with a driver?
Draw and fade yardage reduction is MUCH less impactful for drives this year compared to 2K21. You can now do draws and not take a big hit to your yardage. Baby fades and draws are specifically much better so you can draw and fade it along slightly moving fairways without losing distance.
@@MoreRespawn awesome I was always frustrated when I would work a ball to match a fairway and another guy would hit it dead straight and out drive me.
Do you feel a bad hit in your controller? Does a bad hit sound different? Are there ANY ball hitting SoundFX in the speaker of your controller? Do you feel the rain in your controller like in Astros Playroom? Does the lighting change when it’s raining? Does the weather change at all during a round? Do you hear the wind in the trees when its windy? Does the rain sound different when you standing near a tree? Could you make a club twirl? Could you waggle the club before hitting the ball? Is the yardage book better? Could you rip of some grass and throw it in the air to check the wind? Could you actually WALK the course without a caddy? Could you use a laser for distance?
My only real comment would be that I believe the 2k21 ballflight concerns are largely because people don't understand exactly how high the pros hit the ball with every club in their bag. Just got back from being a walking scorer at the Shriner's Open in Vegas, and even having scored for the pros for the past 4 years it still amazes me every year to go and see just how much height the pros get from the top of their bag down to the wedges.
If anything I believe that the appearance of 2k23's lower ballflight is an overcorrection due to complaints, at least compared to the reality of how tour pros hit the ball. I'll have to play more in depth myself to get a better feeling for it though.
I was so excited for the release of 2K23, but I am largely disappointed...It's pretty bad in a lot of ways, which is very unfortunate.
What are you playing 2k23 on? PC, PS4/5 XBox. Let us know. I remember what happened with the last game review
The mechanics of 2k23 have went backwards, they don’t seem as consistent, for example hit a perfect drive into and 8mph cross wind, the outcome is different everytime even tho the conditions are identical, like hit 3 identical shots and youl get a different outcome everytime
£35 for 2k23 vs £3.50 for 2k21
I may go fo the cheaper one if there's isn't too much of a difference?
Just get 2k23.
@@indian_crocodile I have just come off 2k21 and being trying to play on pro as it says that's the setting for online.
Tried the opening course 4 times and best I got was +7!
This game is so much harder than hot shots golf or Tiger Woods 12.
Deffo need some practice.
Love the new power bar. Feels real if you use one of the sticks. The game is thin though. The courses stink, the my character skins are all too similar, & the gear is more basic. Love the game play, but I’ll get bored w/ it sooner than later
Brilliant content, very interesting video. My go to man for 2k golf 👍🏻
I appreciate you!
It is funny how Links 386 Pro looked more realistic 30 years ago than this game.
Have they fixed the hazard drops when you hit one in the drink? Sure hated being dropped behind grandstands, camera towers and on the next hole tee box across the lake...lol
Your going a great job. Great video and very informative!
for me Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004 still the best
They went way over board on customization and boosts and super complicated leveling up system.
Great video. If 2k23 greens at 155 are breaking more and rolling further than 2k21 greens at 163 then a 2k23 green at 163 is much faster than a 2k21 163 green. A better comparison would be on very fast where both are 187 so you could see just how much different they are.
I know.
Outstanding video buddy. Well done!
no difference and that sucks
Great comparison Zane. Good work dude !
Amazing breakdown Zane, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for all the info, mate.
Do you know if the online societies will still be free to play without a ps plus subscription like they were in 2k21?
Really enjoyed the side by side comparison, thanks.
Did they fix the golfers freaky big hands and long arm? 😂
Fantastic video, great work!
Really great work,keep it up
I’m confused why the gray area is so huge for all the levels after all pro it seems too big lol
Just starting the vid, maybe you'll go into this, idk. Biggest disappointment to me as a real-life, fat-guy golfer: can't make my guy fat. Wtf?
I went over it in another videos but yes, I am also sad no fat guy golfer. As a fat guy I want to make myself
Why is that 8 iron shot so upright? It looks like the toe is being stabbed in the ground
awesome comparisons, ty
The difference in club hitting the ball sounds is good enough to buy alone.
new interface looks like arse. the old one while unspectacular, is very cohesive. all the elements are in the same style. in 2k3 it's a hodge podge of different crap. absolute rookie design mistake.
What a moron
NOT BIG DIFFERENCE
Console need 60 fps or this game will be unplayable.
I'm debating which version to get. Not worried about the dumb clothes. All I'm concerned with is the clubs and anything that can boost skill level. Based on that, which version would you suggest?
Just get standard.
In PGA Tour 2K23 can you still use the line when lineing up putts
Gonna be skipping 23 if they don't put it on the Switch.
Excellent video, thanks. Quick newbie (almost) question re putting. If I have the distance guide on, is it showing me the strength needed as if it's a medium green and I have to adjust accordingly or does the guide factor in the speed and firmness of the green and I have nothing more to do than hit the sweet spot on the distance guide?
The distance that is given for putting is a general distance that you will need to make it to the cup on putts. It takes everything into consideration when calculating that initial distance that it gives you. This however can change dependent on where you are putting the ball and how much break occurs. I have a putting tutorial for 2K21 that is a touch outdated now but will give you a general idea of how putting works in these games: ruclips.net/video/s6armkjrorE/видео.html
So 2k23 isn't going onto the Switch like 21?
Can you play two players in casual game with out being a guest
Keith from The Office is looking well
Brilliant video to watch many thanks 😊 👍🏻