@@bjperez9076 i think its a good camera. It certainly didn't have the top specs but it does a good job. It's a hard question for me to answer because i use it for snapshots. When I'm purposefully taking photos I use a camera with interchangeable lenses. I'm completely satisfied with the pics i get from the phone. And i love the phone. It's being regularly updated and it's fast and fluid. It has great battery life and recharges quickly. I haven't had a single glitch with the phone. I think Moto has really upped their game!
I just ordered one refurbished in only "fair" condition but I'm extremely curious how bad it could be cosmetically since like you said, it's made from kevlar lol
I may be a bit of an oddity but I much prefer Moto's UI and features over Google Pixel stock Android and all I wanted was a Moto phone with symmetrical bezels and no curved edges and now I have it. Definitely my "perfect" phone. Also, they do still have swipe to split on it. Great Review!
The Thinkphone and the Edge+ are both designed to use in place of a laptop or a desk top. Android runs MS Office nicely and there are some solid Office clones available for download. 👍😳👍
Wow, did not know. Wanted a phone like this since 2006 for work. Can you confirm if I can use MS word (type reports) on the destop, then save to phone? Also can MS powerpoint be used with the phone? Thanks.
Ready For is great for those who despise typing on a tiny phone screen keyboard. Being able to send SMS texts, use Signal, etc. with a real keyboard is a big deal. And more businesses are putting all of their dev improvements into mobile apps (vs their web sites). I have found it very useful.
I use desktop modes (Dex 2019-2022 and Ready for since 2022) all days, for personal and work (office) use. It's a. Chromebook experience. Maybe better.
Just bought one direct from Motorola for $345 US. Replacing my pixel 3a but not decided not to fix the screen for the third time @$100. This phone is built to be durable and you should have mentioned that a bit more with it's military specs. Going to miss the compact size but after using my backup Doogee phone i can wait for this phone to arrive. Was going to get the Pixel 7a but I am tired of always having to take a charger out with me.
@@bjperez9076 Will do. My girlfriend has the iPhone 14 and we live in Tulum and my pixel 3a still matches her pics and in low light crushes hers. I am hoping the camera matches my Pixel 3a but I prefer battery life and durability over the camera.
@@ffgmiller Thank you in advance! I agree on the battery life. My 6a has good days and bad days on battery life and that's frustrating. The camera is good, but not as advanced as I thought it'd be compared to my OnePlus 7t. I loved that phone for the combo of software, camera, battery and charge speed and this seems like a good balance like it.
@@bjperez9076 I did not trust the first year of their sensor chip. I love my 3a but it was a pain in the ass always having to take my charger and/or my battery pack everywhere. I have a Doogee S61 as my backup which is my huge military built phone and it is nice to be typing this at 22:34 after being on it all day and still have 43% battery so I choose battery which we deal with every day over a few pics a month.
I wish the red button could dynamically map to the camera shutter when in camera mode or at least landscape. Lol. You can "disable" it in landscape, so it's definitely something they could have done.
I have to correct you, the TrackPoint (or red nipple as you call it ;) ) is actually a very important selling point for me in ThinkPads. I can use the mouse without ever taking my hands of the keyboard. It also allows for more precise movements (imho) than what is possible with the trackpad. I think you will find that many who use ThinkPads willingly (that is, not given to them by corporate IT) will list the TrackPoint as one of the most essential features, and not because of how it looks. It is no wonder then, that Lenovo sells separate USB and wireless keyboards that have the TrackPoint integrated!
You can be much more precise and accurate by mapping cursor movement over a large range of motion when compared to a small range. That's unarguable, not something you can debate. Trackpoints are cool, but to say it allows more precise movement is just false on every level.
"There is not much use for the destop feature?" Why? I could care less for social media, not a whoman. My question is can I use microdoft OFFICE on the destop, or at least Microsoft WORD and save to phone, attach and send emails/ files from phone after using destop. Thanks.
I use DeX on my Samsung S8 Active all the time. I had a IBM T40 and a IBM/Lenovo T61 (iirc) the two different times i was in college. Trac point and quality of keyboard along with magnesium roll cage and spill proof keyboard made these fantastic for us in vocational classes.... thinking about another ThinkPad pc with Linux for next work pc
I use Ready For all the time, for personal and work (office) use. Since 2023, and before that I used Samsung DeX (similar thing). It's a kind of Chromebook to me.
I see on your home screen you don't have the horizontal Google search pill. Is there an option to remove it in the settings, or are you using a custom launcher? Thanks!
Microsoft Launcher is the best experience on Android imo. It's the only launcher with a scrollable widget screen like on Windows, and ready nice integration with Windows sticky notes, To-Do, and outlook calendar.
OH WOW. Absolutely loved the BB Q10, my absolutely favourite phone ever. Could you imagine this Thinkphone with a keypad 😱. And, back in the 90’s IBM launched the Thinkpad with a butterfly keyboard and the red point was referred to the Centrally Located Information Tracker - I kid you not!!
Nice review. You're right, i don't use READY FOR at all. Although if I did alot typing in apps I would be down with it. Personally I would gladly trade READY FOR in for a proper always-on-display, IR blaster and second space. The thinkphone's 68 watt charging is fantastic and puts Samsung apple and Google to shame. The camera is pretty darn good for Motorola but its a level down from the Pixel. You're right the video is excellent. I think it does very well in low light as well. The 2x digital zoom is the weak link..at best its ok. The pro mode is actually very good and i encourage anyone with this phone to start playing with it. Haptics flat out suck. What happened Motorola?? Amazingly the thinkphone has fantastic talk to text. Its faster and more accurate than the Pixel 7. Also does call screening too. Gaming is a breeze and yeah this screen is basically bezel less The UI is definitely not up to speed with the big boys but its not bad. Things like customizing wallpapers or Bluetooth interface with other devices leave a somewhat bad taste in the mouth. Really you're just reminded it's a Motorola. Bottom line ...there's nothing that can touch this phones value in the $400 segment
That’s funny you say the bb Q10 was your favorite phone…it was my favorite phone also. Screen just big enough to use and touch sensitive. The battery was amazing, it was such an efficient phone and the modem and antennas always made it have better reception than any other phone I’ve ever used. I could have it and my iPhone next to each other iPhone no signal blackberry 2 bars and able to transmit data also. The Q10 was and will always be the best phone I have ever used and small enough to flip in between my fingers but not drop it because of that mat glass weave back and it was perfectly weighted God I miss the BB Q10 it never received the respect it deserved in the market Blackberry 10OS was so good also for getting things done quickly and made my day so productive when I had it
So true, I remember traveling with the q10 from Washington DC to Texas. The blackberry q10 had the best service and typing experience I have ever had. Amazing second phone to keep.
I think you are under selling the build quality. The back is Aramid Fiber is by far better than just a simple plastic. I have one and I think the build quality is top notch.
I dont care too much about the front facing camera, and it seems as if alot of phone companies dont either but thats why im wondering why theres only one phone that i know of that has that transparent front facing camera. Being one of the only phones that technically has an actual FULL screen must be a huge sell. Wtf are they thinking lol
You have to be careful with what usb c cable you buy as they all seem to have different specifications. However, most usb c to hdmi cables should work, but be sure that you are powering the display separately too as hdmi doesn’t allow for much power to be drawn!
The back is actually made from the same material that Kevlar is, so it should be extremely durable. I've had mine for a few months now and I love it.
Thanks for letting me know! And I’m glad that you are enjoying the phone!
How's the camera? Moving from a pixel 6a and liked the camera but hate everything else!
@@bjperez9076 i think its a good camera. It certainly didn't have the top specs but it does a good job. It's a hard question for me to answer because i use it for snapshots. When I'm purposefully taking photos I use a camera with interchangeable lenses. I'm completely satisfied with the pics i get from the phone. And i love the phone. It's being regularly updated and it's fast and fluid. It has great battery life and recharges quickly. I haven't had a single glitch with the phone. I think Moto has really upped their game!
@@bjperez9076 It's average. It's pretty good but not Pixel level. Then again this is a business oriented phone
I just ordered one refurbished in only "fair" condition but I'm extremely curious how bad it could be cosmetically since like you said, it's made from kevlar lol
I may be a bit of an oddity but I much prefer Moto's UI and features over Google Pixel stock Android and all I wanted was a Moto phone with symmetrical bezels and no curved edges and now I have it. Definitely my "perfect" phone. Also, they do still have swipe to split on it. Great Review!
Thanks for the feedback! I believe that the swiping gesture is only there if you opt for the three android buttons on the bottom
The Thinkphone and the Edge+ are both designed to use in place of a laptop or a desk top. Android runs MS Office nicely and there are some solid Office clones available for download. 👍😳👍
Wow, did not know. Wanted a phone like this since 2006 for work. Can you confirm if I can use MS word (type reports) on the destop, then save to phone? Also can MS powerpoint be used with the phone? Thanks.
@@St.CrispinsDayGLORY yes, the office suite is fairly well featured on android
Sorry your wrong I still use my red nipple on my think pad laptop …
Good to hear!
It would be rude. not to use the red nipple 🙂
Me too! And it's a life saver when space is limited. You can keep the hands on the keyboard, avoiding weird, pain-inducing wrist angles.
Looks like im getting a thinkphone!
I have always and continue to use it.
Imagine plugging in your phone to the tv at a hotel and watch movies off your phone
All do it all the time. And connected to a computer there's a universal copy and paste feature even.
Ready For is great for those who despise typing on a tiny phone screen keyboard. Being able to send SMS texts, use Signal, etc. with a real keyboard is a big deal. And more businesses are putting all of their dev improvements into mobile apps (vs their web sites).
I have found it very useful.
Glad that you have found Ready For to be useful!
I use desktop modes (Dex 2019-2022 and Ready for since 2022) all days, for personal and work (office) use. It's a. Chromebook experience. Maybe better.
Just got a thinkphone, very impressed. All in all it appears to be great for my general purpose uses.
3 weeks with mine, it's awesome, the network and wifi reception, lightweight, performance, software,
Seven months with my Thinkphone and it's been great. I get a system /security update every month. Love the "Ready For" app to connect with a PC.
I have the Moto G Stylus for both personal and business phones but thinking either upgrading business phone to ThinkPhone or Edge. Great review.
I agree with you the phone is nice does the job well but an upgrade to the thinkphone or edge maybe the Razr
Just bought one direct from Motorola for $345 US. Replacing my pixel 3a but not decided not to fix the screen for the third time @$100. This phone is built to be durable and you should have mentioned that a bit more with it's military specs. Going to miss the compact size but after using my backup Doogee phone i can wait for this phone to arrive. Was going to get the Pixel 7a but I am tired of always having to take a charger out with me.
You’ll love it!
Pixel 6a owner here and agree! When you get it, please relay how the camera is, please!
@@bjperez9076 Will do. My girlfriend has the iPhone 14 and we live in Tulum and my pixel 3a still matches her pics and in low light crushes hers. I am hoping the camera matches my Pixel 3a but I prefer battery life and durability over the camera.
@@ffgmiller Thank you in advance! I agree on the battery life. My 6a has good days and bad days on battery life and that's frustrating. The camera is good, but not as advanced as I thought it'd be compared to my OnePlus 7t. I loved that phone for the combo of software, camera, battery and charge speed and this seems like a good balance like it.
@@bjperez9076 I did not trust the first year of their sensor chip. I love my 3a but it was a pain in the ass always having to take my charger and/or my battery pack everywhere. I have a Doogee S61 as my backup which is my huge military built phone and it is nice to be typing this at 22:34 after being on it all day and still have 43% battery so I choose battery which we deal with every day over a few pics a month.
I wish the red button could dynamically map to the camera shutter when in camera mode or at least landscape. Lol.
You can "disable" it in landscape, so it's definitely something they could have done.
I liked the TracPoint a lot and used it, especially on airplanes. I’m really considering a ThinkPhone. My iPhone 12 mini is getting long in the tooth.
I have to correct you, the TrackPoint (or red nipple as you call it ;) ) is actually a very important selling point for me in ThinkPads. I can use the mouse without ever taking my hands of the keyboard. It also allows for more precise movements (imho) than what is possible with the trackpad. I think you will find that many who use ThinkPads willingly (that is, not given to them by corporate IT) will list the TrackPoint as one of the most essential features, and not because of how it looks.
It is no wonder then, that Lenovo sells separate USB and wireless keyboards that have the TrackPoint integrated!
You can be much more precise and accurate by mapping cursor movement over a large range of motion when compared to a small range. That's unarguable, not something you can debate. Trackpoints are cool, but to say it allows more precise movement is just false on every level.
"There is not much use for the destop feature?" Why? I could care less for social media, not a whoman. My question is can I use microdoft OFFICE on the destop, or at least Microsoft WORD and save to phone, attach and send emails/ files from phone after using destop. Thanks.
yes, you can do all of that with the office suite
Google Workspace works flawlessly too.
I use DeX on my Samsung S8 Active all the time. I had a IBM T40 and a IBM/Lenovo T61 (iirc) the two different times i was in college. Trac point and quality of keyboard along with magnesium roll cage and spill proof keyboard made these fantastic for us in vocational classes.... thinking about another ThinkPad pc with Linux for next work pc
Glad that you get to choose your own work PC ahaha
I use Ready For all the time, for personal and work (office) use. Since 2023, and before that I used Samsung DeX (similar thing). It's a kind of Chromebook to me.
great to hear that you like the feature!
is there a way to import/transfer iPhone contracts/messages/phone log to the ThinkPhone? Thanks
I want this phone, I live in South Africa. How do I get one?
This may be stupid, but do the phones usually come with sim cards in package? Mine didnt.
not usually unless if you buy your phones with a contract from your carrier
Hi Davis!
What is the USB-C device that you used for ThinkPhone demo in this video?
it was the mobile pixels duet screen
I see this phone max nits is supposedly 1200 nits. How is the display outside in direct sunlight?
While not class leading, it’s very useable outside!
@@DavisFangTech Do you still have the phone and still using it?
@@Android_jimmy I’m afraid not, I only had the review sample for a couple of weeks
I see on your home screen you don't have the horizontal Google search pill. Is there an option to remove it in the settings, or are you using a custom launcher? Thanks!
I can't quite recall unfortunately, but I was using the default launcher
Microsoft Launcher is the best experience on Android imo. It's the only launcher with a scrollable widget screen like on Windows, and ready nice integration with Windows sticky notes, To-Do, and outlook calendar.
you can just delete it off the homesscreen
OH WOW. Absolutely loved the BB Q10, my absolutely favourite phone ever. Could you imagine this Thinkphone with a keypad 😱. And, back in the 90’s IBM launched the Thinkpad with a butterfly keyboard and the red point was referred to the Centrally Located Information Tracker - I kid you not!!
yesss, a keyboard thinkphone would be a dream come true!
Great review, very helpful, thank-you!
Glad you liked it!
Nice review.
You're right, i don't use READY FOR at all. Although if I did alot typing in apps I would be down with it.
Personally I would gladly trade READY FOR in for a proper always-on-display, IR blaster and second space.
The thinkphone's 68 watt charging is fantastic and puts Samsung apple and Google to shame.
The camera is pretty darn good for Motorola but its a level down from the Pixel. You're right the video is excellent. I think it does very well in low light as well. The 2x digital zoom is the weak link..at best its ok.
The pro mode is actually very good and i encourage anyone with this phone to start playing with it.
Haptics flat out suck. What happened Motorola??
Amazingly the thinkphone has fantastic talk to text. Its faster and more accurate than the Pixel 7. Also does call screening too.
Gaming is a breeze and yeah this screen is basically bezel less
The UI is definitely not up to speed with the big boys but its not bad. Things like customizing wallpapers or Bluetooth interface with other devices leave a somewhat bad taste in the mouth. Really you're just reminded it's a Motorola.
Bottom line ...there's nothing that can touch this phones value in the $400 segment
This thing is 400 dollars at the moment. for the money, what is worth the 1500 price tags of high end phones?
That's an absolute bargain at that price
Does this phone have any call screening security features against spammers like the Google phones 🤔
I’m honestly not sure
That’s funny you say the bb Q10 was your favorite phone…it was my favorite phone also. Screen just big enough to use and touch sensitive. The battery was amazing, it was such an efficient phone and the modem and antennas always made it have better reception than any other phone I’ve ever used. I could have it and my iPhone next to each other iPhone no signal blackberry 2 bars and able to transmit data also. The Q10 was and will always be the best phone I have ever used and small enough to flip in between my fingers but not drop it because of that mat glass weave back and it was perfectly weighted
God I miss the BB Q10 it never received the respect it deserved in the market
Blackberry 10OS was so good also for getting things done quickly and made my day so productive when I had it
I'm tempted to buy myself a BB Classic to just play around with. It feels like the ultimate version of that form factor for me
So true, I remember traveling with the q10 from Washington DC to Texas. The blackberry q10 had the best service and typing experience I have ever had. Amazing second phone to keep.
I think you are under selling the build quality. The back is Aramid Fiber is by far better than just a simple plastic. I have one and I think the build quality is top notch.
It was the flex that was a bit suspect for me, but aramid fibre is known to absorb high forces!
eSIM?
There’s no e-sim support unfortunately
It's $400 now December 2023.
That’s incredible value!
I dont care too much about the front facing camera, and it seems as if alot of phone companies dont either but thats why im wondering why theres only one phone that i know of that has that transparent front facing camera. Being one of the only phones that technically has an actual FULL screen must be a huge sell. Wtf are they thinking lol
I predict there's gonna be a thing called a "youtuber accent" at some point in the future .
glad I have it?
Hi! is it a specific hdmi to usb-c cable you used to connect to the monitor? or it doesn't matter?
Thanks for the review.
You have to be careful with what usb c cable you buy as they all seem to have different specifications. However, most usb c to hdmi cables should work, but be sure that you are powering the display separately too as hdmi doesn’t allow for much power to be drawn!
@@DavisFangTech Thank you!
Its not soft touch plastic. Its carbon fiber armor.
This is the single most phone we may give second thought
Thinkphone and edge 2023 basically the same phone.
looks like it's not supported well you hardly can find a case for it lol
That’s the situation with most non-iPhones unfortunately
I wish they had an under display camera, nobody buys this phone for camera anyways
That's not a flex bro. We don't like phones.
The phone needs to now be able to think, AI is here and the 2024 version better have some AI features if it wants to compete
Probably easier to wait for Google to implement more AI features into Android ahaha
Civi here! Noice game drop!
Hope you’re looking forward to Civ VII too!
What does "The iPhone for PC Users" even mean
It’s a phone that integrates with your computer seamlessly
@@DavisFangTech Like Dex?