BMW 530e 2021 decent PHEV or should you bother?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 фев 2021
  • It's been a good year for cars in 2021, we've seen some proper competition come on the market and now BMW is completing it's range of PHEV models and Bob tests the new 5 series in Dublin.
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  • @colinc.8742
    @colinc.8742 3 года назад +46

    I have driven for 59 years and in countless cars. The 530e is the finest vehicle I have ever owned and driven.

    • @nicknick2345
      @nicknick2345 Год назад

      Same here i love my new 530e I have same seats , self driving etch. My first Bmw. Did sell my merc c class. And I’m loving the bmw. I just want to tune it. But only 1 firm in Finland ho can open the cpu. So I’m waiting.

    • @umer.durrani
      @umer.durrani 6 месяцев назад

      I’m planning to buy one can you please let me know what’s the combine mileage in real life and also just petrol mileage thanks

    • @colinc.8742
      @colinc.8742 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@umer.durrani On electric with the 9 kv. Batt. Depending on the time of the year between 18-24 on pure electric. Petrol about 40 depending on what type of driving..

    • @umer.durrani
      @umer.durrani 6 месяцев назад

      @@colinc.8742 thanks

    • @doorrob
      @doorrob 5 месяцев назад +1

      I agree, I’ve had 520ds, 530d’s, and even a 440d, but best all rounder is the 530e. Comfortable, refined, and tons of power. Went down the full EV route recently and have managed to offload so picking up a fresh 530e Touring tomorrow….ahh the freedom 😊

  • @mrsinn2642
    @mrsinn2642 3 года назад +5

    I just realized that I need something with a tinted rear end, this is a new need now, thanks Bob!

  • @cosso2007
    @cosso2007 3 года назад +2

    Great review as always Bob and the behind the scenes part was great 👍

  • @richb326
    @richb326 3 года назад +10

    Picked up mine 3 weeks ago. Fantastic car, I’m currently getting late 50’s mpg with some steady driving and a little bit of hooning.
    Put it in sport mode with xtraboost and the thing flys!

  • @damiencasey
    @damiencasey 3 года назад +5

    Brilliant to see a review that's not PHEV bashing , most reviews I have seen of PHEV are through gritted teeth but for those of us would love electric but do regular 300+ klms a day a couple of times a month can't get range anxiety out of our heads. Good review pity I can't afford it , maybe I'll wait 2-3 years and but it second hand for half the 84k price tag . Great review

  • @JP-sn7cd
    @JP-sn7cd 3 года назад +4

    I have just put a deposit on a 172 330e Bob. Ironic then that I see you drive past my estate in citywest saying that its an ideal area for such a car! Great video, can’t wait to get my motor.

  • @m3photo726
    @m3photo726 3 года назад +6

    “I didn’t mean to come this way”. Story of my life, Bob!

  • @jonathandonnelly4991
    @jonathandonnelly4991 2 года назад

    Thanks Bob. Picking mine up on Monday. Can’t wait

  • @markscars1069
    @markscars1069 3 года назад +1

    Always watch right to the end :)
    Will be adding a BMW of some description to our Mini JCW daily, later this year. Love the current 5 very smart looking piece of kit.

  • @noelcxl2037
    @noelcxl2037 3 года назад

    Recently found your channel and TikTok Bob and really enjoying the content. Keep up the good work sir 👍👍

  • @sw2599
    @sw2599 2 года назад

    Watched to the end first video I’ve seen from you 10/10 very entertaining

  • @matrixsenior
    @matrixsenior 10 месяцев назад

    Another great review Bob. I hope you are feeling better.

  • @CarsofGlasgow
    @CarsofGlasgow 3 года назад +11

    The 5 Series touring is a great car, apart from the price the 30e models are pretty decent. We ended up with a 2020 520d as it was about £10k cheaper than the 30e.

  • @sig6394
    @sig6394 3 года назад +1

    Yep I love them 09 corsa's too and yep I stay to watch the extra, love you videos on car keep them coming your fabulous 👍💪👊🙏

  • @trebor70
    @trebor70 2 года назад +6

    Great vid, thanks. Owned a 2014 520d and forever regretted changing it. The 2020 530e is definitely at the top of the list for the next change, once the prices have dropped.

  • @seancoughlan14
    @seancoughlan14 3 года назад +2

    Hi Bob, keep up the good work , love this 👍🏼. It would be great if maybe next time you could a PHEV Car challenge to road test the car ( PHEV Roulette 😂😂) - Pick a destination just outside the 60KM battery range like Circle K Kill to Circle K Portlaoise - 🙈🙈and see how far you can actually go on battery only ?

  • @dublinairportplanes
    @dublinairportplanes 3 года назад

    hi bob i only live a few mins from citywest. great review as always.

  • @gib321
    @gib321 3 года назад +1

    Out take is the best. Nice Pug 3008 passing to you on the right on the Tallaght bypass.

  • @paraicjoyce286
    @paraicjoyce286 3 года назад

    Seen the end...great review...real world driving..

  • @Dannyboy199500
    @Dannyboy199500 3 года назад +1

    That was a lovely bridge, keep up the good work.

  • @brendanduffy1215
    @brendanduffy1215 3 года назад +1

    Everything goes back to covid in the end Bob! Stay safe. Enjoyed the review

  • @bobhope8593
    @bobhope8593 Год назад

    Great review Bob, keep it up!!

  • @jzy0104
    @jzy0104 2 года назад +3

    I got the LCI x3 30e. Brilliant car. Cant fault it. So much more comfy than my Q5 and much much nicer inside. Brilliant adaptive suspension

  • @robertgraham8813
    @robertgraham8813 3 года назад

    Love your banter .priceless

  • @1976DJH
    @1976DJH 3 года назад

    Great vid as always

  • @lulzimmuhaxheri1251
    @lulzimmuhaxheri1251 2 года назад

    I really like it also agree with what you said. Thanks Bob

  • @dalroth10
    @dalroth10 3 года назад +5

    Another excellent review Bob and the car looks superb ........... just the price tag that's an issue for most of us I reckon!🙁

    • @lukedaunt4434
      @lukedaunt4434 3 года назад

      Secondhand they are very reasonable, they depreciate like mad. I used to own one, loved it but mad depreciation. Great car if you want to keep it for 10 years.

  • @eroche913
    @eroche913 3 года назад

    Very nice update, looks more different than a typical midlife upgrade. I'm a big fan of the black trims over chrome, makes it much more youthful. Why anyone would buy a stodgy looking SUV body style over a handsome classic saloon such as this is beyond me.

  • @LEARNINGMG
    @LEARNINGMG Год назад +1

    Looks amazing, to be honest Bob. Like almost any five series with more than 250 horsepower, they just look amazing.

  • @jonathonbehan2900
    @jonathonbehan2900 3 года назад +2

    Hey Bob, thanks for the video! You mentioned “non fingerprint” gloss / piano black trim, is this something new BMW have started doing? I’ve got piano black trim in my 1 series and it scratches and fingerprints easily so would be great if they’ve done something about this!

  • @rickypattersonymail
    @rickypattersonymail Год назад

    Good to know that Transport Ministers everywhere make promises they won't always keep. Solid video sir.

  • @StevenGodfrey3956
    @StevenGodfrey3956 3 года назад +1

    Great review Bob ! Lovely car. I've started saving 😁👍

  • @richyhardwick8014
    @richyhardwick8014 6 месяцев назад

    Was unsure, but not any more, buying ours tomorrow. Thank you

  • @user-vt7di5iu4p
    @user-vt7di5iu4p 7 месяцев назад

    Great video. I’m driving the 530e for 4 years now and I’m loving it every day. The only problem is the size of the trunk. I just ordered a 530e Touring. More space. I assume and I hope the ride is the same. I was very lucky to get hold of the latest car of the G31 LCI model. I like it far more than the new one.

  • @mso8190
    @mso8190 3 года назад +2

    Lovely car. Looks really smooth and quiet.

  • @rabit818
    @rabit818 3 года назад

    Love the new intro graphics

  • @kevinsayers771
    @kevinsayers771 2 года назад

    Picking up a 545e soon. Cannot wait.

  • @nudgenudgewinkwink3212
    @nudgenudgewinkwink3212 3 года назад

    lovely car , lovely colour too Bob.

  • @leegreen67
    @leegreen67 3 года назад +3

    Hey Bob, if you get the opportunity to drive the 545e you might change your mind. Another stunning BMW is the 540D Touring although that one is probably best suited to trans continental European driving. Keep up the good work

    • @joshoconnell164
      @joshoconnell164 3 года назад

      BMW website doesn't have the 540D listed for Ireland. You might be able to get a special order, but I don't think it's sold here.

  • @isthkar123
    @isthkar123 3 года назад +1

    Again Bob nicely done review 👏 I'm thinking about lasting generations 330e mpg I'm normally motorway driving mostly the time is it good yes or no

  • @bruts82
    @bruts82 3 года назад +3

    Great review I’ve had one when it’s cold range is practically gone. Over time battery losses it’s capacity therefore depreciation is huge

    • @adams7405
      @adams7405 Год назад

      My dealer changed mine after 5 years goodwill.

    • @nicknick2345
      @nicknick2345 Год назад

      Ye u have guarantee on the battery for many years. How many miles hade ur car gone when he changed the battery?

  • @paulrose8876
    @paulrose8876 3 года назад +7

    Nice comment about others driving styles most reviewers seem to have a lead foot. PHEVs have the ability to cover long distances without stopping and can traverse metropolitan areas in electric only when required. Sure more costly to service but looking at the cost of fast charging away from home not much difference to liquid fuels and my motorcycle is cheaper to run in that comparison.

    • @tdikeith
      @tdikeith 3 года назад +2

      Most PHEVs can't fast charge, limited to about 3.6kW charge rate so you'll never have to worry about inflated charge rates on these, its not possible.. No extra to service either, its just service the petrol engine side of things. Which tends to be cheap enough as they petrol engine has a relatively easy life as its not always working. I have a motorbike (honda blackbird so not the most efficient) and one of these 530e, and my 530e is better on fuel than my bike in all settings, motorway or around town.

  • @timhorgan6843
    @timhorgan6843 3 года назад +13

    Was hoping you’d do a segment on the laser lights and some other extras in the car.

    • @philiplee7604
      @philiplee7604 3 года назад

      Yes!.. a tad superficial. A little more detail in the reviews would be ‘ icing on the cake’ because Bob is extremely watchable in the layback style!

  • @anthonyoconnell5508
    @anthonyoconnell5508 3 года назад +1

    Never seen a fella to get a bigger horn for the roads and bridges in tallaght! Bought a 545e it’s a ridiculously good car

  • @a4feksake
    @a4feksake Год назад

    I’ve one on the way after a 520i looking forward to it

  • @elthamlad468
    @elthamlad468 Год назад +1

    I pick up my 2017 530e with 54,000m next week. Exact same interior as this car in video. I'm a little nervous as never had a PHEV but this video is really helpful. I have a very short city commute or an occasional 32 commute on motorway, so I am really hoping this vehicle works. I am fortunate and can charge at home so that really helps. My only concern is the batteries have a six year warranty so mine is just put, and it remains to be seen how they deteriorate long term. However I have spoken to a bmw technician who stated that generally they have not seen many issues with the batteries. They are prohibitively expensive to replace though should they need it

  • @elliottkeen9933
    @elliottkeen9933 3 года назад

    Bob your a true star

  • @liamcotter2931
    @liamcotter2931 3 года назад +5

    I’d of thought a 7 series was at that price tag! Lovely car though

  • @tabban21
    @tabban21 3 года назад +1

    I get the feeling Bob absolutely LOVES BMW lol

  • @ukcarver
    @ukcarver 2 года назад +1

    I have now had the530e for several months and average over 100 mpg.

  • @ukcarver
    @ukcarver 2 года назад +7

    Based on this great review I have just bought a new 530e and I’m sure I can make it work as far as efficiency is concerned. But listening to lots of other reviews I wonder have I done the right thing. I’m sure I have.

    • @EmuGamesMaster
      @EmuGamesMaster Год назад

      Rubbish on mpg. 39.2 off 3200 miles since new. Plugged it in loads and its just pointless. Waste of time unless your stopping for a break. Then most places you have to pay parking charges on top!

  • @nicknick2345
    @nicknick2345 Год назад

    Same here i love my new 530e I have same seats , self driving etch. My first Bmw. Did sell my merc c class. And I’m loving the bmw. I just want to tune it. But only 1 firm in Finland ho can open the cpu. So I’m waiting.

  • @tuccobuibui
    @tuccobuibui 3 года назад

    At the end of the day, what is left to the Lexus ES300h for instance ?

  • @davidmccarthy6061
    @davidmccarthy6061 3 года назад +16

    If you're using turn signals you aren't testing a BMW as their normal customers use them.

  • @meethree6305
    @meethree6305 3 года назад +7

    I’m looking at one of these now, as a company car driver, compared to my current 520D I’d save £400 per month in BIK Tax in the UK. This is where the market is and for this reason PHEV is the way forward, until fully electric has the range and infrastructure for fast on the go wireless charging. Great video Bob

    • @mamba101
      @mamba101 3 года назад +2

      Rationalising cars because of tax incentives is a bit weird though.

    • @Runawaygeekchannel
      @Runawaygeekchannel 2 года назад

      @@mamba101 Been kinda doing it for years, mpg has been an economic standard for years, petrol tax is high in the UK, so lower mpg means you pay more tax.. 😆

    • @mattwassall3524
      @mattwassall3524 11 месяцев назад

      Hi, did you buy the hybrid?

  • @ryanchadwick9100
    @ryanchadwick9100 3 года назад

    I have this car it’s amazing worth every penny

  • @johnprendergast7085
    @johnprendergast7085 3 года назад

    Cool Bridge. 😂👍🏼

  • @alexandruneacsu2292
    @alexandruneacsu2292 3 года назад

    Painted brake pads? Cool feature. Calipers Bob.

  • @googletop1989
    @googletop1989 3 года назад +2

    530D for me thanks!

  • @tonieveritt7045
    @tonieveritt7045 Год назад

    hi iam a prtrol head i love the 550 bmw the 4.4l petrol but that 530 phuv sounds amazing it really does what is the road tax on that 530 for the year you have the best of both worlds you use the electric for towns and petrol on long runs and it chargers the batterys up as well i have allways been a petrol head but that 530 have made me think a lot iyou are right it works it really does it was good to see this show thank you

  • @twostroketom
    @twostroketom 3 года назад +1

    Sergeant Major reporting for duty. I'm one of the poor people, so guess I can walk then! We all knew you were heading through Tallaght - listen carefully 14:02 😉👍

  • @doorrob
    @doorrob 3 года назад

    Does it have the adaptive dampers ?

  • @v.k.7463
    @v.k.7463 9 месяцев назад

    Nothing very technical in this video, but I agree with everything stated. I just got this car 2 months ago, and it is awesome!

  • @McGeady78
    @McGeady78 3 года назад

    Good video Bob always watch till the end. Your filming not to far from me! Would love to know next time you film there and come round and watch. 👍🏻

  • @Edvard.Munchkin
    @Edvard.Munchkin 3 года назад +3

    Bob, you know this 2030 thing in Ireland, all new cars must not have an internal combustion engine? I think they should make all cars hybrid from 2030, it makes more sense. Even though it's 9 years away, I don't think folks will be ready to make that change. Give them the hybrid, let them see that it can work, and people will soon change. 2050 is a more realistic target for full EV in my opinion.

  • @Coolh2014
    @Coolh2014 Год назад +1

    What’s the suspension like?

  • @florian3934
    @florian3934 3 года назад

    Any idea what that color is called?

  • @lolopocho3490
    @lolopocho3490 2 года назад

    is the bmw 530 e better to save more money or the bmw 330e?

  • @micr75i
    @micr75i 3 года назад

    any thoughts on the 545e?

  • @ukcarver
    @ukcarver 2 года назад

    By using the petrol engine to charge the battery up doesn’t that trash the fuel consumption.

  • @frankmetcalfe9391
    @frankmetcalfe9391 3 года назад

    Niccce one Bob

  • @patconway7402
    @patconway7402 3 года назад +5

    The interior of the current 5 series is difficult to match , even by an E class. That electric adjustable memory steering wheel is class too. It’s just a good start to your day. The 520d is a miser on fuel.

    • @EmuGamesMaster
      @EmuGamesMaster Год назад

      Mate the mercs are light years ahead of bmw’s bland dated interiors that haven’t changed for years!

    • @nicknick2345
      @nicknick2345 Год назад +2

      No they don’t. I just sold my merch for the 530e. I did love the merch. But the bmw is in another class. M sport package. Full loaded. I love it. Sure I wish 545e hade come out with a combi version. Then I might hade buy it. Have friends that tube it and got over 400 hp out from the 530e. BMWs interior, design etch nobody can beat it.

  • @googlereviewer2743
    @googlereviewer2743 3 года назад +9

    After trying out the Mercedes E class PHEV and the BMW 5 Series PHEV, which car would you choose if both were same price? As in ride comfort, quietness. Thanks!

    • @NathanTeskey
      @NathanTeskey 2 года назад +5

      Bmw hands down, feels sportier to drive. E class seems like a slug and is cramped in my opinion.

  • @graham4843
    @graham4843 4 месяца назад

    Looks a great car. Any info on the road tax cost

  • @krokuspokus2403
    @krokuspokus2403 2 года назад

    I haven't tested the sedan, but the estate (touring) sacrifices too much boot space for the batteries, making the car a bit too impractical for my own taste. The performance was decent, but not stellar. Though it was a really comfortable ride, even if it's a really heavy car. 😊

  • @hfugmann
    @hfugmann 3 года назад

    Awesome car

  • @1MrErling
    @1MrErling 2 года назад

    Missing the temperatur wheel for cold / varm!!!!

  • @kingGar27
    @kingGar27 6 месяцев назад

    Nice review, as usual. 03:02 diesel hybrids don't make sense. Diesel's have to be driven on motorways to keep the emission controls clean. A PHEV is aimed at shorter commutes and urban driving where you're stopping/starting a lot. Stop/start is what kills fuel economy, not motorway cruising. The added weight of a hybrid drive system on a diesel cruiser would likely hamper, not improve, fuel economy.

  • @terrywright9765
    @terrywright9765 3 года назад

    Am new to and really liking this channel. Well done. 🍻
    Too bad you can't review the crap we get in Canada.

  • @aidenneill4693
    @aidenneill4693 2 года назад +5

    Is there any difference aside from battery output between the 2017 model and 2021 model?

    • @tdikeith
      @tdikeith 2 года назад

      2017 had about 250hp in comfort mode but gave the 290hp in sport mode (the sales reps will confirm this and also if u use the built in power meter on the dash in sports mode u can see the hp / nm etc. The 2020 onwards had the 290hp quoted as the norm but essentially both give the same and both are the same speed and acceleration.and the likes.

    • @sw2599
      @sw2599 2 года назад

      Idrive 6 and 7

  • @yang5159
    @yang5159 2 года назад

    great car

  • @williambellingham2024
    @williambellingham2024 3 года назад +1

    Seen to the end.. was funny

  • @drluisgoncalves
    @drluisgoncalves 3 года назад

    Make a test drive to the new BMW 520e 2021.

  • @newbeginnings8566
    @newbeginnings8566 3 года назад +2

    There appear to be only 2 problems
    1. The price 😵😵😵. 85,000€.... Even for a BMW that is crazy money... Then I saw and found out about the Irish registration tax.. A tax on a vehicle already taxed.. You people need to change your government and demand that this tax is abolished..
    2... Lack of standard equipment - and that's on this 85,000€ vehicle..
    I imagine few people but new in Ireland?

  • @cube1us
    @cube1us Год назад

    This guy from Wisconsin USA says you need to come here to see what driving in the snow is really like.😂

  • @MrShadowhearth
    @MrShadowhearth 3 года назад

    Irish Market is flooded with UK 530e ( or at least was ). Ironically cheaper then 520d due to vrt favouring hybrids. From what I heard so far, mpg numbers don't even go near claimed ones on pre facelift models. I would go with 530e, because i prefer petrols over diesels and because there is F all 530i's in Ireland, but not sure about reliability of 530e.

  • @thomashestbech7758
    @thomashestbech7758 3 года назад

    What is the name of the Colour?

  • @John-px4uk
    @John-px4uk 11 месяцев назад

    Great when there not broke , dirt box had a new one 2 years ago never again

  • @dennisthapa4486
    @dennisthapa4486 3 года назад

    What color is that car? Phytonic?

  • @fogh
    @fogh 3 года назад

    Looks like a lovely car - even to the end of the video! Do you think they’ll do a 530E Tourer?

  • @alisharifi8054
    @alisharifi8054 8 месяцев назад

    i m 23 years old and i drive a BMW 530E out 2018

  • @alexmat106
    @alexmat106 3 года назад +1

    "Why would you buy anything else?"...I wonder myself!

  • @yeahyeahyeahyeahwhatever
    @yeahyeahyeahyeahwhatever 3 года назад +1

    I just can't understand the tinted rear windows...it makes a lovely car look like a van. I'm a regular late 2018 520i owner and these are fantastic cars that will give 40 to 44 mpg unless you drive like a nut all of the time. while I would never buy a hybrid unless forced by being drugged and whipped, a 5-Series is a majestic machine.

    • @tdikeith
      @tdikeith 3 года назад +3

      Its the same engine as u have with a kick up the arse from an electric motor to make u think u are driving a 530i

  • @danwhelan
    @danwhelan 3 года назад +2

    The 530e is phenomenal! Totally agree the steering wheel is *chefs kiss* perfect. Always enjoy your BMW reviews Bob! My 201 has the 12kWh battery too. I haven't needed any petrol yet since I got mine! Anyone on the fence about one of these, go for it, if your average mileage isn't too much they're fantastic.

    • @jsouto77
      @jsouto77 3 года назад

      Surelly the whole point of these is for people that do mega miles or have range anxiety. You could just buy a full electric for the price of this and never look back.

    • @danwhelan
      @danwhelan 3 года назад +2

      @@jsouto77 Yeah I guess you could look at it that way also. I personally don't like any EV's that are out there right now in terms of their styling...I wanted a 5 Series that could run on electric for 95%+ of my journeys (most of my daily driving is within 30km). But it's great having the ICE for when I need to go further.

    • @jsouto77
      @jsouto77 3 года назад

      @@danwhelan I respect everyone has a preference but unless you really need a hybrid for most of your journeys its just a given that you are in a no mans land situation. Petrol does not last very well these days unused and you are still subjecting yourself to emissions tests when they are due plus DPf's plus all other associated risks with mechanical components and still needs servicing just like normal ICE. Being that you use electric for 95% of the time, imho I dont think its the right car for you but I certainly won't go as far saying you made the wrong choice since Im sure you made you're choice based on what made you confortable and im not here to brainwash anyone :)

    • @danwhelan
      @danwhelan 3 года назад +1

      @@jsouto77 If there was a full electric 5 series with say 350-400km range I would have preferred that for sure. Next time :)

    • @jsouto77
      @jsouto77 3 года назад

      @@danwhelan Its well within BMW's grasp to do so. Its just a matter of time until they are forced to do so. I hope you dont have to wait long. As you can see, life is and can really be to short :)

  • @richarddastardly6845
    @richarddastardly6845 2 года назад

    One day I want a 520d

  • @ericrochford3134
    @ericrochford3134 3 года назад +6

    8:35 almost 30% of the total price to the government.....shocking and its only going to get worse!

  • @OneTireFire
    @OneTireFire 3 года назад

    You can only really bring down CO2 emissions with a PHEV if you keep the car charged constantly. If you don't, a PHEV is no better than a comparable gas-only vehicle.

  • @martino9134
    @martino9134 3 года назад +27

    "Poor people can walk .." this is what happens when you spend more than 5 minutes in a Beemer 😉

  • @blackstairsman
    @blackstairsman 3 года назад +3

    I'd hate to live there🤣

  • @roboHare73
    @roboHare73 3 года назад +2

    Bob, excellent review again sir. I’m actually in the great situation of being able to order both the 530e msport saloon and the msport 330e (touring/saloon) as my next company car. Brilliant I know. Currently driving a 2018 520d. Considering I’m 6 ft 3 and a bit on the large size (due to lockdown) would you recommend staying with the 5 series or going down the 3 route? Cheers mate

    • @ludwighedman4097
      @ludwighedman4097 3 года назад

      The 5 series feels like a better verision of the 3 series. My family actually have one 330e and one 530e. The 3 series feels almost like any other new car. It has okay dampers, the volume in the cabin is okay but it is no way near as quiet as in the 5. I would say go 3 series if you like sportyness and don't care about comfort. Otherwise the 5 series is an easy pick!

    • @nicknick2345
      @nicknick2345 Год назад

      The 5 serie. Nothing to even thinking about!! I did change from merch c class to Bmw 530e. So much bigger. Best car ever. My first Bmw and I love it

    • @nicknick2345
      @nicknick2345 Год назад

      Ye the 5 serie have the comfort and so quiet. The c class was more sporty. But in the winter it was the worst car I ever driven!! I was afraid when I drive it. It was an amg so low. A lot of noise. The 5 serie is luxurious and so quiet. U don’t know when the engine start it do it so we’ll