Apple Vision Pro 48 Hours Later: An AR/VR Newbie's Perspective
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2024
- The Vision Pro feels lighter than I expected and the materials feel good to touch. The solo knit feels premium and the dual strap feels like the nylon apple watch bands. The front glass of the vision pro is super reflective and the light seal and light seal cushion both attach to the Vision Pro magnetically. When you pick up the headset, I’d pick it up by the strap, or the metal body, not by the light seal or cushion because it will detach and potentially damage your vision pro. So just keep that in mind. Overall, the entire product feels premium.
Okay, so when you first put it on, you do this exercise where it wants to scan your hands and have you stare at different dots on the screen to calibrate the vision Pro to you. Afterwards you setup a persona. And I took like 3-4 tries before I got a persona that I was satisfied with. It does look and act like me.
Okay, once setup was complete, I thought it was crazy how the UI was, all the VisionOS elements are super sharp, and you can really see the depth of objects, and their proximity to you. It’s cliche to say this, but this is something you have to see to believe. The video passthrough though, the “reality” you see in the vision pro, are obviously cameras. It looks like if you strapped an iphone camera directly to your face. The video passthrough is so soft and noisy in low light, you can tell it’s a video feed. But during the day, or in a brightly lit apple store, it looks closer to reality but the cameras still can’t replicate all the light and colors your eyes see and the dynamic range is obviously a camera feed.
The Vision Pro can play 3D movies with some services like Disney+ and Apple TV supporting it, and watching 3D movies actually feels as immersive as what you used to see in theaters. Way better than the 3d implementations that was on 3D TVs back in the day. But I also enjoyed watching regular 2-d content on it. You can resize the window to be as big or as small as you want and drag the window wherever you go. It’s really cool. And you can drag 2 different windows by pinching different ones with each hand. Apple has built in immersive mode, which changes your entire view into an amazing backdrop of nature including some national parks and the moon. And visually, it feels like you’re in that environment.
You can pair the Vision Pro with your mac. And when you do that, the screen on the mac goes blank but it’s visible in your Vision Pro. But you’re only able to mirror one MacBook display with no multi-display support. So you can’t run a bunch of desktop apps at once with “virtual monitors” but you can use Vision OS apps alongside your mirrored mac display. The mirrored display feels like it was always in vision pro the entire time. Seamless. You can continue to type with the Mac keyboard, or through Vision Pro. The apps do stay where they are. So if you leave the room, they stay in the room you were in. When you stand up, the objects in front of you turn transparent, so you can easily see the items around you. But currently, as is, the app ecosystem of the Vision pro isn’t extremely robust with productivity Apps. It has microsoft office products, but no google docs, sheets, slides, or even RUclips. This is definitely something I’ll have to check on again in the near future.
On day 1, not gonna lie, I struggled. I was so used to doing things a certain way with how I interact with my computer, my phone, or a tablet. That learning to use a computer in a 3d space was completely different. Typing is annoying on the vision Pro. You have 4 options to type. Use voice to text. Use your eyes to select each letter, or move the keyboard UI close enough to you that you can “press” the key. But it’s strange, because you don’t feel a physical touch. And lastly, you can just connect a bluetooth keyboard, which to me is the ideal way of typing on the Vision Pro. But nothing beats that day 1 adjustment period because you have to take in a whole different way of using tech.
So at this point it’s conclusion time. What do I think of the Vision Pro after 48 hours? Well, it’s a unique experience that when you try for the first time, it has a crazy wow factor to it. And as you continue to use it, you get frustrated because it’s a new method of input, but once it clicks, it clicks. As an average everyday consumer, should you get this version of it? Probably not at this price point but if you’re near an Apple store and want to see something really cool. But I’ll save my full opinions on a long term review. Like maybe in a month or so.
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If you don't use magnetic lens inserts and want as large of a FOV as possible, get a light seal with a 1 in the second position of the number. So a 11,21, or 31. The first part of number is basically narrow, medium, and wide for your face. The 2nd number is depth with 1 putting your eyes closest to the lenses and 9 being the farthest away (most binocular effect). The last part is bridge, which is W or N for wide or narrow where your nose goes.
Thanks for this trick. I have 21 I guess that’s why I ve never seen the binoculars effect. Or maybe it’s there but I never noticed it.
Watching jjk on the vision pro will really go crazy 😤
I demoed a unit and yes it was amazing. But they really haven't sold me on how it can be really used day to day. Plus, remember the $3,500 base price is just the unit (they have higher priced models with more storage). There is also paying for extras like, battery case, a holding case, warranty, tax, ... Folks say that the price is more in line with the mid-$4K range. I say, wait till the next generation after the first adopters have really tested this out. At least it will be fun to follow for this year.
You touched on so many aspects! Thanks for the thorough review
I love seeing a newbies perspective. Great video, can't wait to see your next video
This is the best review! Great job!
You immediately earned yourself a loyal subscriber because of your brutal honesty (they way I like it). It's refreshing to see someone just "use it" instead of praising it to heaven because they paid so much for it and fight to justify the purchase, you don't - you're just calling it like you see it, nice!
Now, I have a Quest 3 - Quest is new to me, I never had one before, but I had an HTC vive that also had pass-through, but it was noisy like a barbie-camera from the late 90s, and pretty much useless, other than that VR was an awesome experience, kinda like you experience it now.
Your interactions with the passthrough + hands controlling kinda inspired me to try mine again, because I wasn't impressed enough with the hand gesturing, turns out it's a little better than my first initial impressions gave them credit for. Now - the Apple Vision Pro has a MASSIVE resolution in comparison to the cheap Quest 3, but from I can tell from peoples videos, the light-sensitivity issue with high ISO and equally high noise - is about the same. Quest DOES have a little higher FOV (like in the 108-110 realms, while the Vision Pro is more like the HTC Vive, around 90-ish FOV, but Apple won't disclose that yet, but people report the familiar "tunnel vision" syndrome.
I like the fact the virtual keyboard seems very useable in Apple Vision Pro, as you can have it near you. That's a HUGE handicap that Quest 3 is struggling with as the distance from they keyboard and user, seems to be impossible to control, so you sorta gotta trick it, and push it aside, with your hands. This works, and the keyboard becomes useable, but giganting and kinda like a novelty-toy-keyboard.
Also I dunno if You have noticed the same thing with the Vision Pro, but in Quest, even though the hand gestures works fine for what it is, I tend to "snap" click a little too much when I get eager and surf lets say Imgur a little too much, eagerly swiping down or up to watch more video-clips and images, sometimes it goes a bit too fast, and I tend to "accidentally" snap-click on too much, does this happen for you?
As for the useability of Pass through and using it as a surf-ipad thing, it works fine. I tend to use my Quest 3 in Bed A LOT, it's very comfortable to just lay back, and surf on a giant screen, while having an additional chat-screen where I chat with my buddies while surfing or watching youtube videos, for that - it's great.
I get around 1.5 hours video time, and 3 hours chat-time with the built in battery. With gaming intensive 3D games, it quickly drops to just an hour.
What do you chat with? I have discord, messenger and what's app but thats about it. I wish the UI was better.. more like avp but I use my quest much like you do. I wish Meta would figure out we like it for more than games.
@@alantenney3731 I agree, and yes Discord is what I use in the Meta browser as well, but my friends stream with youtube while we chat in Discord since the online app doesn't work with Quest streaming yet. But that works fine since we can have youtube for example in a second instance of the browser, it works just fine.
I got one and I love it. I know that it is in its early stages but the folks at Apple will keep upgrading with more apps, software, etc. This device is revolutionary.
No Steam VR though. Will Apple add that?
Me as an extremely picky tech person, I have to agree that something like Vision Pro is totally ground breaking. If you said it is not then you're comparing a spaceship in sci fi movies not reality
Great informative review Jimmy!
A straw will fix your drinking issue.
Didnt help my uncle's drinking problem
Lol
Why haven’t I ever thought of doing that with the Quest? 🤦🏾♂️
Apple Vision Pro = Strawgate 😂
This is the stupidest argument he made
I can see swipe typing become the best way to use these if they catch on
You’re really good at presenting
Did apple make it expensive, so every youtuber needs to make 10 videos on it for the ROI?
Genius move, massive amount of free advertisement.
😂
I purchased mine the day after launch. I preordered them and Apple helped with initial setup. It was a great experience . I was able to download my editing app to the vision, pro, and that has been great. It is unfortunate that final cut pro isn’t available on the vision pros yet. But like you said, this is a Gen zero product and it’s only going to get better from here. Compared to gaming goggles that are out there. That’s what people need to realize is that these are not gaming goggles these are spatial computing. This is the future of computing right here where you’re taking your computer around on your head and not carrying up laptop around. You don’t get the screen door effect like you do with gaming goggles either. The refresh rate is so fast that you can look left and right and everything is pretty seamless. The only thing that I’ve really noticed so far with the use of mine is low light situation. It doesn’t register your hand movements as easily as it does in good light environment.
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‘Spatial computing’ is just apple marketing and you’re falling for it. The AVP is an amazing device but it’s still a VR/AR headset like a quest 3 or ‘gaming goggles’. The reason AVP doesn’t have a screen door effect is because it costs 3500 - if ‘gaming goggles’ were sold and made at the same price, they would have the same performance arguably better
who's Jen Zero 🤣
@@johndoe6050 - First error I’ve had with the new Vision Pros. I was using voice to text and that’s how it typed it. AND I wasn’t able to edit from the goggles… So that’s a thing I guess. 🤣
@@GavinQuinainPRT - Say what you will, “marketing” it is the future of computing. Within a couple generations, these will be cellular and smaller, and probably a lot cheaper. Say what you will, Apple may never be the first to do something but they do it best when they do come out with something. Call me a fanboy, but my first computer in college 35 years ago was a Mac. Little square box, it was amazing. Now 35 years later, I’ve got my computer on my head and with less eye strain.
Cool video bro. I’ve been diving around RUclips watching Vision Pro videos bc I want one so badly but I can’t justify the price haha. Though I gotta say I really enjoyed your review! Gained a new sub from me.
Reminds me of the A/R you see when you test like stuff from Best Buy or Amazon in A/R
It's clear this product is creating problems to solve and by the looks of it, it's solving them a bit clumsily. As an advocate for VR who has 4 headsets, most of what I've seen out of this has pretty much been done before minus good passthrough (Though, I haven't tried the quest, I have seen people on street corners and in parks with them). I've done computer work in VR, it's not appealing since it adds a level of difficulty and strain to an otherwise easy task. I've watched movies in VR and that is great, especially during Covid where I could get together with other friends in a virtual theater and watch movies together with them (Ready Player One in 3d was a blast.) And I've spent most of my time playing games and having experiences built for VR. It's just all been done before and we've had this stuff for years. I don't see this product bringing anything new to the table.
I think gaming is defiantly where the future of VR is.
If you can make a VR headset a little like the one shown in ready player one.
Maybe with some gloves that have inbuilt pressure control ala if i pick up a gun in my VR shooter, the gloves will make it feel like i am actually holding a gun.
That might be the future.
Also if you can make it work with regular games, ala i could play the original Starcraft and with a patch i would basically be able to replace the mouse and keyboard with my hands and have it work just as well if not better.
There might be something there.
I think they're ripping people off by not having a usb-c port or input port of any kind since it's not possible to air drop large files and I feel like they want to force people to use icloud which is very expensive for what it is. They did advertise it as a spatial computer, and we all know it at the minimum a computer has to be able to store, retrieve and process files. Is it why they claim it's a "spatial computer" and not just a computer? Anyway, I feel like I got ripped off and returning mine next week. It also can't play 180 degree video, has no 180 or 360 degree video player that works, all VR video on youtube will not work at the moment and there's a chance it never will.
it looks like a good review
the original iPhone had a lot of the same warts, i'm more excited for what the future of this technology is and I do think this will replace the cell phone eventually (like in 20-25 years, maybe sooner)
I bet much sooner. Less than 10 years. 5 years maybe?.
The Smartphone wasn't that much of an upgrade from the "dumb" phones. After all there were tablet type phones where you could do things with a stylus well before manufacturers started the smartphones & Apple were not even the originator of smart phones, just this this product isn't unique
Nice!
Are we forgetting the Google Glasses?
Was popular for a month
Yes, but this is sold to Apple users.. they are not conventional consumers 😂
I would love the following improvements for Apple Vision Pro Gen 2:
- bigger FOV
- better pass through with low light
- ability to use 2 Mac screens at once
- ability to type with all your fingers in a floating space instead of just your pointers.
I’m not asking for too much, am I? Sounds like an amazing product already. I didn’t even add lighter weight to my list as I think that’s a given that everyone wants this technology to get as light as possible.
Not horrible for a first generation. Would be great features/improvements for a second generation though. Think it’ll be done eventually though!
@@deezpleez3832 yes this is just me wanting it to get more and more exciting. But I think they probably created something awesome already which is the most important part - fun experiences. Then with my wishes, it gives them a good chance to say well to get these improvements we need an M4 chip or whatever it is by then to do the better low light/pass through, more Mac options, and better detection of all your fingers. Seems like it all makes sense from a marketing standpoint. Also will be interesting if they go with 2 models of this next time or realize there are trade offs with tech to start and they need to keep it pro for awhile to provide the better VR experiences compared to their competitors. I would think Meta is going all we need to do is have similar pass through to Apple next time and have better room detection, stabilizing of windows in space and they will have a much cheaper attractive option for customers. And Meta might be able to do that for $1k or cheaper in next few years.
Also needs Steam VR compatibility and VR controllers just like Quest 3 has.
@@dtz1000 yes I agree. Apple needs to make something for drawing which they could just make their pencil compatible I would think if they wanted. Then yes controllers for gaming sounds smart. Why wouldn’t they want to get the gaming market too over time? I guess you could argue that makes more sense when it’s cheaper and more mainstream.
There is actually a fix for field of view (in reddit people talk about it): change your light seal to : 21W light seal
It is a keeper for sure
I think the demand for straws will increase dramatically after Vision pro
Dang $3500? That's insane. I'd be really intrested in your take on the Quest 3 with a Mac.
lol I went to order one and that $3500 is more like $5k after tax , lenses, apple care and storage upgrade. Even if you have apple care for it it’s still $300 to replace the glass screen
@Dg841a and that's for the base model. It's like 9x the cost of a quest3. But I don't think it's anywhere near 9x better.
@@ApeWithPantswait 3 years, price should be more reasonable with all the micro-improvements
For now… 5 years from now it’ll be $500
@@RozVerde with inflation maybe 1.5k
How good was Mac connectivity? Is using it as a main display driver ideal? Latency, stuttering, or any disconnection issues?
I could comfortably use it as my main display within the Vision Pro. Latency wasn’t an issue and I could edit YT content (my main use case) perfectly fine and clearly. No disconnection issues except if you disconnect from the Mac by taking off the headset, for some reason I have to reboot the Mac to be able to use it as a virtual display again. But if you actually disconnect properly it’s fine.
@@JimmyTriesWorld does the mac virtual display work with non-laptops?
@@JimmyTriesWorld Awesome, thank you so much! Love your content by the way! :D
@@stancartmankenny yes you just have to be on sonoma
@@stancartmankenny
"Apple has confirmed that the Vision Pro's Mac Virtual Display feature is compatible with any Mac running macOS Sonoma. If the Mac has an Apple silicon chip, the headset can show its display at up to 4K resolution. If the Mac has an Intel processor, however, Apple says resolution is limited to up to 3K."
I think it's neat, and I am glad apple is behind AR/VR/XR, but I think it is overpriced, and I am quite happy with my Quest 3, which does what I need and is just as immersive. I'm also not really an apple fan, so there is that.
My question, does the Apple Vision Pro support the Apple Tv Remote?!
TRIPP Vision is available for Apple Vision Pro, free for a limited time with some great updates coming...
Given a recent teardown the sides are removable. I wonder if anyone will come out with a case that uses this to store the Vision Pro in a much smaller area than apple’s case.
Thank god we can finally place a physical as well as virtual barrier between ourselves and our partners while technically spending time together on the couch.
I had the exact same experience as you, sitting on the couch with my girl. It clicked.
For $3499, it'll always be a carry-on for me. You'd be crazy to take this in as a check-in.
8 years ago The Simpsons predicted the Apple Vision Pro Season 28, Episode 2
I guess that's cool? it just seems like a quest with the extra feature of walking around. although lighter weight is actually a big deal.
Even the Quest can do that, they have passthrough as well. The hype is due to it being Apple, it being $3.5k & being shilled by influencers.
people are going to live in these things
could it replace a laptop? I am a vw tech and it would be nice to pull up wiring diagrams and then see the wires on the vehicle.
It's basically a Macbook M2 but in a small package, with AR/VR capabilities, this should definily replace a laptop and be even better
Hope Samsung releases something as good as this, im not a big fan of apple but they really stood out this time
Other manufacturers already provide augmented reality goggles & glasses for industries. As for these they are not robust enough & the battery life is a complete joke.
Wow it is so snazzy but I bet in about 10 years it will be 100 times better
More people will be skiing with it. Perfect for blocking the sun
Remember the 'Google Glassholes'....... It's just that again, but worse because these cost exponentially more 😂
I don’t see this as a daily user currently like the iPhone or a laptop or iPad…it will just be more used for fun now
I think they could’ve integrated everything except the screen and sensors into the battery bank. They’ve already made it a sorta irreplaceable part of Vision Pro.
i´ll wait for the Apple Vision Pro 2 Max at least
U gave me anxiety when u tried to drink coffee next to ur laptop while wearing the Vision Pro😂
Mind-blowing precious device.
Coming to a CeX store near you
I'll just wait for the Vision Pro 2
Next year Apple will release Vision Pro Straw
But in reality, would you use vision pro regular?
Now if only they can get Pokémon Go on this thing.
Can you play steam/Meta VR games on it?
Cant wait to drive my car and play candy crush with these
I have one and in all honesty they should not of released it yet, I find it's far too soon. They say " NO LAG" but the UI is full of lag, and like u said u can walk straight through your icons and videos
i need deep dive vr
That looks pretty slick, but it's a niche device and not for me.
Does
It replace Apple Pencil?
Can you watch formula 1 on it
7:50 so the device isolate you even from people right next to you... Scary stuff
Unless you look directly at them
@@jonathanlivingston7358 well all they see is you wearing this huge lens on the head
@@somnia3423 when you look at them, Vision Pro shows your eyes to them
Does it work with Macs with the last intel chip ? Or only Macs with M chips ?
There are people on the Vision Pro subreddit who were able to connect to an Intel Mac, I think as long as your Mac can run Sonoma you can use it with Vision Pro
seriously doubt it supports old Intel Macs... just way too old now
"Apple has confirmed that the Vision Pro's Mac Virtual Display feature is compatible with any Mac running macOS Sonoma. If the Mac has an Apple silicon chip, the headset can show its display at up to 4K resolution. If the Mac has an Intel processor, however, Apple says resolution is limited to up to 3K."
Imagine being high as hell with these on 😂
Is it worth it if you dont own anything of apple
For 3.5k it better use premium material! 😂🤣😂 Your introduction made it sound as if you can get these things for cheap and you were pleasantly surprised how good the quality is. Just saying.
Seems like a beat-for-beat remake of the Verge review…
make it a contact lens and i'll try it.
People are plugging in to bigger batteries packs or banks to get 6h or 8h.
I see you had Nile and his American cheese episode
I think the picture is very good, but watching movies in 3D is nothing new in VR. Try the Quest3 with the same movie...think there's not too much difference for sometimes that costs seven times the price of a Quest3
Volgens mij rijd je in de achterwiel aangedreven versie (450+), en niet in de vierwiel aangedreven versie (450 4MATIC).
Guess what, apple just released the first iStraw 😂
When you can make your virtual Mac screen 100ft across, why would you need to worry about having multiple screens? I don’t get why reviewers are focusing on that.
@@Jbs6187 but with 100’ screen (feet not inches if you want), you can have separate windows of different sizes and shapes anywhere you like on the desktop. That’s the point of having windows to have applications in, each window is its own “desktop” that the application can use. So every window of every application is effectively its own separate display - and you can move them and arrange them however you like on a huge single desktop.
I start to wonder if people know the difference between a desktop and a window…while on MacOS a window can be made full screen, it can also stay a window and be moved around and sized etc - so instead of having a different app on a different screen, just have the different windows arranged in different places. Now - the UI can be slightly different - the MacOS menu bar only shows a single app that’s “active” at a time, where as apps on different displays can show different menus at the top of different displays, but in practice, that’s rarely an issue. Oh…and some MacOS apps have a bad habit of hiding tool panes when they are not the active app, but I haven’t seen apps like that on MacOs for years - I think devs realised it’s extremely annoying when your tools keep vanishing.
I get that some people use their devices differently - weirdly if I’m honest sometimes when I watch them, but as someone who’s been used to working with MacOS since the original Mac and with GUI since I had to create my own, I can’t help thinking people could learn to work this way easily.
so I should buy one so I can chill out on the couch......
Apple took a look at Bluetooth headset guys and were like, "How can we make this even douchier?"
I like VR headset tech. But this is hilarious and feels true.
What is the average size of a 2 hour movie? What is the size of the largest sized game? I ordered the 256gb, but contemplating if I should exchange it to the 512gb. I’ll love to hear your recommendation please.
your going to be limited on the amount of media you can have on it at any given time. I have a meta quest with 256gb its not enough. I'm betting with any kind of productivity software on it along with media and games its going to fill up pretty fast.
@@raistlinsly1 thank you. I agree with you on that one. When my preorder arrives I hope to exchange it for a 512 at the Apple Store if available.
Don’t be insecure man
I only hope to resurrect my deceased loved ones through virtual reality technology.
Next youtuber be like: apple vision pro, wearing it till i die😂
The battery is actually pretty good. The glitches you are experiencing where the apps are not visible is something that is fixed in the beta update developers have access to.
No hot swapping of batteries. Even Quest 3 can hot swap batteries.
A perfect device for complete nerds. Enjoy nerds.
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At the price point only Apple die hards or business or art professionals will use. Enthusiasts not so much. Apple products only get more expensive with each generation. Being stuck in a walled garden is probably going to be the biggest issue with it.
So it just a strapon laptop.
missed opportunity byapple to not include big screen vr app or a dedicated app to watch movies and video with other vision pro owners
True. I wonder how dystopian that will come across though. They have to tread lightly here with their marketing and choices. It’s entertaining from that perspective. They need to provide kickass experiences but not freak everyone out.
@@Ray-dl5mp i think its needed when watching movies or videos. already being done with current vr headsets
@@benjiebarker yes it’s definitely an opportunity for improvement. You could argue that makes more sense when more people can afford it. But yea it would be super cool if they add it. I think all of us are dreaming of things they could improve in gen 2 or apps that could come out over next few years if they want it to.
@@benjiebarkerI think they will come, but I understand some of the streaming services might be reluctant as they are competing with Apple TV+…
As for the shared watching experience - remember that would need multiple $3.5k if people are watching together - that’s probably not going to be a concern then for many people for a while, so they can take a while to have developers put out things like that (note, it wouldn’t be Apple writing them).
@@Ray-dl5mpit's an app that exists today. No need to wait if you have a more functional vr headset.
So netflix and not chill gotcha
8 wear glasses and I HATE lenses so vr isn’t an option for me
Literally lift your head up slightly to drink the water
I wait for the price to drop under $500 😴
people arent ready yet, but pass through vr headsets will replace cellphones..
Lmao, na
Having those on your head isn’t fun all the time …
Who will be trying an acid trip !! 😮
Vision NO
newbie’s perspective?
I will drink one glass of milk for every like this comment gets
It better be a 16oz glass too
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For kids
On an airplane just get the Xreal Air 2.
Or Quest 3.
I DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS NONSENSE FEATURES. Just give me ONE THING. A headset with a crisp OLED image that I could plug into my PC or Smartphone. That would replace my casual monitor
And Steam VR compatibility.
See the Immersed Visor. Supposed to be just that when it comes out, but we’ll see
Too rich for me!
1. Typing is not there.
2. It felt natural to watch a RUclips video and talk to your wife. That is because you are looking up.
Damn that sucks it’s a flop 😩