I don’t think those were recent, I’ve been using steam link to broadcast my screen for at least 2 years for non steam games and programs. Largely I’d use a gba emulator and just expand the window. Worked great
Yes those marks are a deal breaker for spatial computing at work where people will see your face. Its not even accounting for the weight on your face causing fatigue on your neck or the added eye strain. That will cause plenty of eyesight health problems for its users.
Am I not in the norm thinking that the average person doesn't care about VR and even if they do they can't afford it because I don't know anybody in my personal life that even ever even tried it
The part at 21:35 felt very wholesome and genuine, it's a nice switch up in the video. Great idea to have everyone sit down and give off this almost family kind of vibe!
I don't know if this video was expensive (maybe on hourly wages) but this video FEELS like a high budget one. Choreography (even if simple) of everyone coming in the scene, the TVs, etc. For me this was top quality!
Yup, they usually have a short skit at the start then host talking. This time noticed the extra effort to make it an engaging presentation. Means it's like making a short film coordinating everything, but IMHO worth it.
I really liked the real life analogues the team had for this one. AR/VR is almost impossible to show off too or explain issues to people watching on a monitor. Having people moving physical monitors around conveyed the ideas brilliantly.
yeah, but it bugged me that he said he was going to go back and rejoine them once he'd finished, and he didn't. i even watched to the end of the sponsor bit to see if it was then...
@@saloscontentin Vancouver?? No way! You'd come back to an empty document. All the words and letters would be stripped. Even the punctuation marks would be gone
@@Battleneterapple doesn’t sponsor LTT, they don’t even like their phones and other gear💀 Linus only uses the AirPods Pro’s bc they sound nice and they’re very easy to use and convenient, but even he agrees that they’re overpriced
@@Battleneteri have the feeling that you dont even know anything about ltt. They are already blacklisted by apple for reviews haha. They dont get samples and sponsorships. I just hope they do good videos like this more often. I like there entertaining videos but serious videos like that are also nice
What's so nice about this channel, is that it actually cares about the viewer's experience when it comes to sponsorship plugs. Many RUclips content creators have their production costs supplimented by living at home with mom and dad. They have no need for the sponsorship, yet they slam an ad right in the middle of their content. They seem oblivious to the fact that I PAY for a RUclips premium subscription in order to avoid ads. Linus, on the other hand, clearly needs the ad revenue to keep the quality as high as it is. He also segways into the ad in ways that make it far less intrusive. So bravo to Linus for striking an acceptable ballance.
@@3ladeRunnerno, its very front heavy so if you don't wear it tight against your face it will start sliding down and becoming lose. Its bad design/weight distribution
@@thesnowleopard66 It doesn't have a top strap to put the weight on your head... It's a compression fit strap so the force between the back strap and front cushion has to be exactly nearly 50-50% force. ie, you crush your face with the headset.
@@thesnowleopard66 I own it and have used it for a month for multiple hours a day. You need to pull it down in the back to counterbalance it. It’s for sure heavy, and breaks are required, but once you’re in it and got a nice fit, it’s fine.
Between iJustine's "i love it, i love it, i love it" and many others that only hated on it, it is awesome to see that Linus really gave it a chance and actually tried everything on it, and shared with us all the REAL experience of using this device, even if it was a bad experience and a bad price, he still appreciates the engineering that went into this. Feels like a very professional and fair review, which is rare on RUclips for Apple stuff. Thank you.
iJustine's yes I saw her raving about how amazing it will be in apple vision to edit a video on a giant VR monitor :D "surely" I believed that very bad actress.... commercial actress... Backed by a professional editing team with a room full of classic monitors :D
@@TrainLovers-TL69 iJustine is basically a walking ad for Apple. Consider every iJustine video a commercial for Apple just like any other commercial you would see on TV. That's what iJustine feels like to me
given the insane parts cost and how much RnD went into bringing this device to market, I don't think the price is unreasonable. Expensive, yes, but not a bad price.
I was gonna comment 'fix the WiFi!', but then I realized that less-than-ideal WiFi is better for that area. Showing more real-world access is actually a plus.
Probably the best review you guys have EVER done, loved the whole displays segments and couches coming in, the pure definition of "pictures worth a thousand words"
The time spent on this review is amazing. Showing multiple ways to how the Vision Pro looks like to regular people like moving tvs around so many times. The commitment to quality you guys have now is amazing.
As a live audio engineer, I ofter have to set up my work area with limited time and space, and tear everything down a few hours later. Having multiple, virtual screens that don't need to be transported, mounted, and wired up each night sounds like a pretty helpful thing to me.
@@DysfunctionNoMore but there's the thing right ? Would you rather carry 2 screens , a mic , a soundboard , etc , or a simple small bag with a wired battery case which completely fits in ur bag
I'd just like to point out how insane of a camera man linus is with this thing,, constantly being aware what your head movement would look like in post is a crazy skill to have
First time I'm commenting one of your video! As everyone else has said already, this is a brilliant review, and a brilliantly produced video. I loved every single bit of it. The work that was put in the transitions and the physical illustrations (the 3 displays with the mask and the one-shot setup of a living room with people coming in as you review the product) were exceptional, funny and added so much value! The review itself is on point too. No easy trash-talking, just lots of facts put in context and said with lots of subtlety and appreciation. Well done folks 👏
@@Knox420 🙄 yes ltt is going to pay someone whom has watched nearly most of their videos throughout the years, from the very beginning, just because. 😂 -
Dan is such a hilariously expressive guy. From the look on his face, the clothes he wears to the way he pats the grass, there's just this dorky charm to all of it.
The segue to sponsor buts are getting really annoying. I'm constantly trying to anticipate them so that I can skip forward before I hear it. I hate the cringe more than the actual sponsor message
I put this on a side screen to be on "the background" while i was focusing in something else... I ended watching the whole thing and left everything else aside. Great and fair review, Great video, great edition, great script, that movie part with friends...a delight. Amazing job everyone!
@@hoolihanohoolihan1011 because the real world is being seen through cellphone cameras, and he complained about the image quality, but the window on the headset was super high quality. so the real world is blurry, but the screen inside the headset is super crisp.
It an expensive piece of fancy e-waste! The practical use cases is non existent slim. Maybe the best use for this device is to take money from the rich and re-distribute it to the ultra rich while all the normal people just look on and shake their heads. Honestly that is more or less Apple's entire business model, take money from well-off people and put it in tim cook's pockets.
I’ve seen an innumerable amount of tech videos, but they were merely satisfactory. However, the manner in which you’ve constructed this review is genuinely extraordinary. The meticulous process and the content of the video are outstanding. Ordinarily, I refrain from leaving likes or comments on any video, but your video was so compelling that I had to pause and voice my appreciation for your hard work.
My compliments to Nicole Yuen 18:12, for the really smooth and consistent audio mixing. No level jumps. No audible cuts. No ambiance switches. As long as the audio is consistent, you can cut and jump in your video edits however you please.
The effort that went into this video can't be understated. That Encanto transition was as much a piece of art as the the vision pro is. Hats off to Alex and the team for this one (and whoever came up with this video concept).
10 years from now it will be probably thin as regular eye glasses selling for around $500 bucks or less.... that's just how electronics technology works. Oh and PornHub will look amazing with these. lol
@@Cplayz08 For real, Shout out to Collin for not only moving around a giant TV, but also acting while doing it. Had to be a real chore, and he pulled it off.
@@6yjjk - IKR? People (like me) misuse, “understated“ and, “overstated” all the time. For me, it just takes too long to figure out which one is proper for the point I’m trying to make because, “understated“ is a bit of a double-negative and I get confused. So I just try one and hope I get it right. 😂
Nah, it's the same thing as with the Apple Watch or iPad: to have a dev platform. They will quickly, and quietly, discontinue it, and end support for it not much longer after that.
Yeah and to get developers to develop apps for that eventual device 'Air' version. You're paying to beta test this device right now. It's basically a devkit with a public release.
Honestly I think they know the VR / XR enthusiasts would buy it at pretty much any price point. Whether its $2k or $3500 or $5k it would sell pretty much the same number of units. My configuration of storage and prescription lenses was about $4k. It feels like they're waiting on the community to find all the best use cases for it and buy more time for when they could release a cheaper version that will be more of a consumer headset. The people who bought it now are the guinea pigs, which is what makes it exciting for the enthusiasts anyways.
@@AndrewSouthworth I think it was a wise move to price it so high. It was always going to be an initial test run product that would give them feedback for a later, more useful version. If they'd priced it at a more accessible level, more people in the general public would have bought it, been disappointed, and passed on later models. The price point they set means that most people that bought are in the same category as Linus. Tech nerds that are disappointed, but also excited to see what comes next.
not only that They put the sponsor spot AFTER the intro, WITHOUT a segue The last time they did that was the video before the 7980XE review 7 years ago
It would be really cool to see a follow-up video in 6mo or a year to see how the app landscape has changed and if developers are beginning to take advantage of the tech.
better to wait for the vision pro with all the feedback taken, UX improvements and all the apps. Maybe on that time you can even use 3rd party controls to play games.
Spatial capture and multi big screen home theatre. Good selling points, just not $4K worth of selling points. Also, it would be better with interface standards rather than locked into the Apple cult...err..."ecosystem".
You gotta love the bright red marks around Linus face when he takes the thing off. You can see an almost perfect outline of the thing. Imagine wearing it for several hours.
@@Automobile7777 By then I imagine there will be smaller and lighter devices, like “headsets” in the shape of glasses with big frames for example. I vaguely remember some animes with VR lenses but I doubt there would be much traction. No way in hell I’m putting electronics in my eyes, especially above the cornea…
I'm so glad you guys took your time reviewing this. I was expecting you to be very very critical on the Apple Vision, what i wasn't expecting was the surprisingly positive and optimistic take on this. I agree with absolutely everything you said in this video which almost never happens for me with your content (more of a me issue than an issue with your content) This was just so thoroughly researched, elegantly explained and demonstrated. Love it, thanks for being a responsible industry lead here in the tech space of RUclips.
Probably one of the best reviews in recent memory. It's not another, "boo! Apple, this! or boo! Apple that!". It genuinely feels like an appreciation for the engineering that has taken place to bring this market with appropriate critical analysis of its shortcomings.
I am not an anti Apple guy but charging $3,500 to $4,000 is way too much. If they was $350 they would be selling a lot more. How does this change the game with Apple charging so much. Same issue back in the mid 90s when they had good products but way more expensive then a pc competition to allow you to do what? It’s a hard sell.
@@neubauerjosephget lost mate lol. It’s a leading tech, leading tech costs money. Look how much varjo aero costs and you don’t e en have controllers and you have to buy the towers separately. When you’re doing something new or advanced to everybody else, that has costs. 350 are you insane? You can’t even get a reverb G2 for that price,…
@@neubauerjosephnot to disagree with you there but even other companies charge high prices. There’s new laptops these reviewers are advertising that are leaving out how much certain products cost and they’re like $4000 minimum. Plus there are laptops to which are not as upgradable as a pc and sometimes can get too hot. Laptops are my preferred use but I do see that it overheating can be an issue which is why I prefer bulky laptops whereas the new $4K laptops are very thing that may have better specs, won’t matter if they overheat very often. On top of that, Samsung also has phones equal if not more expensive than Apple iPhones. It’s all becoming the same it’s just Apple is the easiest target
This video was incredible. The review was really good, but the way information and concepts were conveyed made it a lot more understandable. I feel like this video was a big step ahead in quality.
As much as I'd love to have one of these collecting dust on the shelf next to the other VR headsets I've FOMO bought in the past, 3500 bucks is "buy a used car for my kid when he hits 16 in a few years" kinda money, and this thing is little more than an expensive toy that's too heavy for a proper day of work, too limited to be better than a simple trio monitor setup, and too walled in by apple to ever have a proper gaming experience. I was an early VR adopter, but once the shine wears off, it's too much of a hassle. Thanks for rocking the Goggle face marks btw Linus, reminds me of the Quest 1 days, that thing must hurt after a bit!
I went from a multi monitor setup back to a single monitor. I don't miss it at all. Multiple monitors didn't add anything for me and I actually found it kind of distracting. To each their own, though.
@@Skrenja I ever only had 2 monitors, but i think for me that's perfect. Many things can need 2 things. Gaming on the main monitor, discord open on the other one. School Project on one monitor, researching on the other one. Youtobe on the one. Group chat on the other one. Remembering what 1 monitor was just seems bad for me. I only paid 20€ for my second monitor. It is 1080p 60hz about 22" old acer one. That's a great cheap upgrade for everyones setup!
@@Skrenja Were they they all the same monitor or did they serve different purposes? I know people who have two or three completely different panels for different stuff.
I’m sorry, but I think you have missed a really versatile use case for the Vision Pro headset. I travel for work a lot. My home set up is an 80 inch 1080p display mounted on the wall and 2 x 27 inch 4K monitors on my desk plus my 14 inch M3 MacBook Pro screen so I am running a four screen set up all the time. I have to wear glasses to read and I have the big screen on the wall because I do a lot of CAD editing and design work as well as a lot of large spreadsheet work and this is the ideal monitor to do that on. It also allows me to share the content with other members of my team whilst I am at a standing desk. All of this is lost when I travel and I spend probably four days a week on the road. I actively delay doing large scale drawing edits and a lot of my spreadsheet work until I get back to my home office simply because I don’t have the screen real estate to do that. I know this is true for a lot of my colleagues And for a lot of people who like to work on large multi monitor set ups. The Apple Vision Pro allows me to do that on the move whilst only carrying my M3 MacBook. I can now be far more productive whilst I’m out on the road. You are assuming that whoever is using the unit is sat behind a desk at work. That is not the case this is suitable for. It is when I am out on the road and I don’t have all my external monitors, that is when this comes into its own. I can run all of my native apps from my MacBook whilst having Safari in a separate window, my messages in a separate window a movie playing in background in a separate window all running off the headset. It is an amazingly powerful working environment and I think that is where Apple gets the spatial computing naming convention from. As a large scale multi monitor environment for travelling, I really don’t think it could be beaten
They're not comparing it between a 500 dollar headset. They're comparing it to ever headset ever which includes 10,000 dollar headsets. Which were cool but had horrible ergonomics, clarity, and tracking problems. These specs wise are the best headset ever made as an all rounder. It just has no usable software.
@@TechnoMinarchist We could have atleast forgiven this because controllers can always be added in the future. But right now its just another horrible thing to add to a product nobody should buy.
The existence of these apple goggles, having experienced it firsthand, and publishing a review of it in a journal has convinced me to consider getting the $200 meta quest goggles. Thanks apple, for guiding me to your competitor.
For $3500 you could get a 4090 and a 7800x3D and still have $1500 left to build the perfect PC. It's just awful value. A Meta Quest is like, $499? Throw that in too, and you have the option of VR with a bleeding edge computer.
A gaming pc is very different from what the vision pro trues to do. Yes the value is very questionable, but a gaming pc can't replace this. The reverse is also true
Just tried the new Apple Vision Pro and as a PC gamer it has got to be the most mind blowing experience ever. The technology uses, the graphics quality, the sound quality, absolutely amazing. I nearly cried during their immersive video demo. Yes, it's really expensive but boy what an awesome piece of tech.
I stopped watching LTT reviews a long time ago, but if this is the elect if quality I can expect of the channels moving forward, I’ll certainly stick around! Great job everyone!
My buddy has the VP and he had to mod his head strap within a week due to discomfort. This is a HUGE oversight and this is what I've come to expect from Apple.
Every complaint I’ve seen on this is price and expectations related. But I think people are missing the point. This is just version one guys. Wait until this tech is working in a pair of regular looking glasses and this will be the biggest game changer since the original iPhone.
One of the best if not the best review of the apple vision pro ever made! Well done to Linus and its amazing team! As a PC guy, they mirrored my toughts exactly.
I had a chance to try my friends and holy crap my mind was blown. I thought it was dumb until I put it on. Not an Apple fan boy... Im a PC user but holy crap this made me more excited about the future of technology than I have been in a very long time.
Finally, a sane review of this thing. And Linus is exactly right. It IS about convenience. The smartphone took off despite its expense because having something like that in your pocket all the time was a huge improvement in convenience for practically everyone who tried it. Said it before and I'll say it again: AR has more practical value than VR. We live in the real world, and "pass through" is a massively over complicated and expensive solution to a self-imposed problem. Just give me some light weight glasses that can put info from my phone or another input in my FOV without being a huge distraction. I want a HUD, not a device that isolates me in my own little reality.
A good and honest review, well balanced and well said. I have known from the beginning that I did not have a use case for the Vision Pro. I know my Quest 3 is not on the same level in many ways, but I do have a use case for it, as I like to exercise, play games (stand alone and pcvr) and enjoy watching movies as well, and with Big Screen I can do it with others at same time. Yes I know the fidelity is not on par but once again to be able to watch a movie in a theater with my brother who lives 800 miles away is still pretty cool. I imagine that the Vision Pro has set a new bar and I hope that by the time the Quest 5 comes out, we will have all the pluses of the Vision Pro with all the pluses of the Quest 3. In the mean time I can wait.
19:28 Linus said it before with him thinking about looking at a phone screen all day while using the Vision Pro. The downside to avid VR headset use, is that even if there’s an illusionary trick to make it seem like the screen is far away, the screen is actually an inch away from your eyes in an enclosed environment.
The main advertised use case for this reminds me of the early obsession over tablets. Everyone had one. News readers had one, the were being used in supermarket checkouts, people who could just as easily use a notepad had one. 10 years later and I can't remember the last time I saw one in use other than a friend who uses one to read magazines. Same thing with voice assistants on phones. Nobody wants the attention of talking to their people in public. Even at home people in general don't want to talk to their phone. Today it's a forgotten fad. Where tablets got maybe a decade, the idea of sitting in a meeting wearing a headset probably won't get any traction and that selling point won't be mentioned in as little as a year.
Hilariously, MacOS *DOES* have touch support- if you connect an external USB-c Touchscreen monitor, it works almost flawlessly. The Vision Pro just uses a very different connection method, so the touch manipulation is done very differently by MacOS when you’re connected to one.
I think spatial devices will take off once you can have shared AR spaces (which includes each person being able to afford their own headset). The isolating aspect of headsets really is a huge drawback now, but imagine sitting at a table with everyone and "turning your monitor around" to show something to the group, all while keeping your other windows in place and no one having to stand up or move around. I see a lot of potential with new window types, like a floating display that is always facing you--put it in the center of the table and everyone sees it the way you do! Anyway, thank you for the great review, loved the thorough coverage of different use cases and the use of visual aids.
Note: At 9:40 we say that Steam Link is not able to do desktop sharing or 4K streaming, but these features were actually added in a recent update.
lmfao every time i see that note 9 lol mine looks exactly the same with how the back is cracked lol
You seem to have a neck lump below adam's apple moving with deglutation. Kindly get it checked, looks like a Thyroid swelling.
8:28 ''what kind of absolute madlad would have a TV this big'' ikr, that would be as crazy as say, a 2000" screen projected on a wall. impossible....
I don’t think those were recent, I’ve been using steam link to broadcast my screen for at least 2 years for non steam games and programs. Largely I’d use a gba emulator and just expand the window. Worked great
I remember the phyiscal steamlink being capped at 1080p but I am pretty sure Steamlink the app could do 4k for many years
Consistently showing the marks on Linus's face where the Vision Pro sits was an important and appreciated decision. Thank you.
I was hoping they were going to add a bloody nose and a black eye towards the end of the video
Yes those marks are a deal breaker for spatial computing at work where people will see your face. Its not even accounting for the weight on your face causing fatigue on your neck or the added eye strain. That will cause plenty of eyesight health problems for its users.
looks like hes anime blushing lol
Im 81.2% sure i would get nausea using this.
My same thoughts.
the color calibration chart comparison was so useful, yet you are the first I have seen do it.
Was Alex's idea I think. I thought it was really clever as well - LS
😂 haha bro
@@LinusTechTips classic alex. give em a RAISE
Honestly all of the story telling in the video was brilliant. As the say, show don't say.
Yeah I really loved that part. Kudos to them
I appreciate the production theatrics. Didn’t have to demonstrate it like that, but it certainly helps.
Came here to say this! This video felt really fun and a great way to review the product. More like this please!
this was script-gold! Well done!
Agreed. Thank you LTT for changing up the format.
Am I not in the norm thinking that the average person doesn't care about VR and even if they do they can't afford it because I don't know anybody in my personal life that even ever even tried it
Almost felt like the safety explanation video in Air France planes
That's how it's done. Covering all the angles and arriving at balanced take. Superb production level as well. LTT at it's best.
The part at 21:35 felt very wholesome and genuine, it's a nice switch up in the video. Great idea to have everyone sit down and give off this almost family kind of vibe!
Agree 100 percent
They're paid actors...
Hope Linus actually sat down and watched a movie with them after the shoot
@@LexusYachtClub They are his team bro not paid actors Well kinda
@@LexusYachtClub they're paid employees, they are just playing as extras randomly
I don't know if this video was expensive (maybe on hourly wages) but this video FEELS like a high budget one. Choreography (even if simple) of everyone coming in the scene, the TVs, etc. For me this was top quality!
Yup, they usually have a short skit at the start then host talking. This time noticed the extra effort to make it an engaging presentation. Means it's like making a short film coordinating everything, but IMHO worth it.
Welcome to the club. Lol. They are for sure high budget. I mean just look at the numbers. 15m subs, 1m+ views in 12 hours.
We did also saw a lot behind the scene in the video. That also made the experience a lot more interesting
@@colinbates1050thankfully they've learned from their drama last year
They do this sometimes with videos or topics they know are gonna get views
I really liked the real life analogues the team had for this one. AR/VR is almost impossible to show off too or explain issues to people watching on a monitor. Having people moving physical monitors around conveyed the ideas brilliantly.
This was an excellent review. Shout out to the writers on this one. The last scene with everyone together on the couch summed everything up perfectly.
this is why LTT reviews are awesome, they paint a story, and tell it amazingly.
Yea that scene really got me... Seems a bit sad technology is tearing people apart more than bringing us together.
yeah, but it bugged me that he said he was going to go back and rejoine them once he'd finished, and he didn't. i even watched to the end of the sponsor bit to see if it was then...
21:31 this scene was wholesome moment
One of the best YT review I've seen in past couple days.
The face marks at the 5:20 mark really shows how much uneven pressure there is on the cheekbone and my god that looks bad.
True
Right ey... that's just bad.
Blushing like an anime girl lol
I'm not a VR user at all, but that just looks darn uncomfortable 😅
and it only gets worse as the video goes on
15:05 "Sorry boss, I left my word document at the gas station..."
What if you could whistle to recall all your windows 🤔
Oooo I totally would like to do that! @@pendaco
so, what happens if u leave a window on a street and then come back a day later and is it still there then?:o
@@saloscontentin Vancouver?? No way! You'd come back to an empty document. All the words and letters would be stripped. Even the punctuation marks would be gone
@@Mr.Anders0n_ LMFAO
Just wanted to say props to the Editors on this one. Clean presentation, create cuts, great script, and Great sets!
This may be one of LTT's best reviews they have ever done. Great perspectives, relevant information, and well thought out. Great work!
He is clearly holding back on what he really wants to say, even LTT doesn't want to miss out of future Apple advertising $$ by utterly trashing it.
@@Battleneter Apple already doesn't want to send them devices, so Linus saying more bad stuff about them doesn't really change much
@@Battleneter? They haven't been sponsored in years. And they trash them regularly on WAN show
@@Battleneterapple doesn’t sponsor LTT, they don’t even like their phones and other gear💀 Linus only uses the AirPods Pro’s bc they sound nice and they’re very easy to use and convenient, but even he agrees that they’re overpriced
@@Battleneteri have the feeling that you dont even know anything about ltt. They are already blacklisted by apple for reviews haha. They dont get samples and sponsorships. I just hope they do good videos like this more often. I like there entertaining videos but serious videos like that are also nice
Alex did an amazing job writing this one. Incredibly fluid all the way through. Loved the movie with friends bit haha
OK, Alex in disguise.
Yes! Great bit, loved it
I think it was pretty generous of apple to include a free rouge makeup applicator in their $4500 screen.
he got the uwu unlocked
Lmao
the insta-sunburn effect is great
@@minglingli7097 mmñ
Its something only apple can do.
What's so nice about this channel, is that it actually cares about the viewer's experience when it comes to sponsorship plugs. Many RUclips content creators have their production costs supplimented by living at home with mom and dad. They have no need for the sponsorship, yet they slam an ad right in the middle of their content. They seem oblivious to the fact that I PAY for a RUclips premium subscription in order to avoid ads. Linus, on the other hand, clearly needs the ad revenue to keep the quality as high as it is. He also segways into the ad in ways that make it far less intrusive. So bravo to Linus for striking an acceptable ballance.
12:07 loving the pressure marks left on the skin after even the smallest amount of use
He has a bad fit for his light seal
@@3ladeRunnerno, its very front heavy so if you don't wear it tight against your face it will start sliding down and becoming lose. Its bad design/weight distribution
@@thesnowleopard66 It doesn't have a top strap to put the weight on your head... It's a compression fit strap so the force between the back strap and front cushion has to be exactly nearly 50-50% force. ie, you crush your face with the headset.
@@thesnowleopard66 I own it and have used it for a month for multiple hours a day. You need to pull it down in the back to counterbalance it. It’s for sure heavy, and breaks are required, but once you’re in it and got a nice fit, it’s fine.
@@Mallchad you can dial in the pressure in the front of your face with micro adjustments. That’s why a proper light seal is required for the best fit.
Between iJustine's "i love it, i love it, i love it" and many others that only hated on it, it is awesome to see that Linus really gave it a chance and actually tried everything on it, and shared with us all the REAL experience of using this device, even if it was a bad experience and a bad price, he still appreciates the engineering that went into this. Feels like a very professional and fair review, which is rare on RUclips for Apple stuff. Thank you.
iJustine LOVES anything, which is sent to her for free.......
iJustine's yes I saw her raving about how amazing it will be in apple vision to edit a video on a giant VR monitor :D "surely" I believed that very bad actress.... commercial actress... Backed by a professional editing team with a room full of classic monitors :D
The Apple Vision Pro is so amazing that I laughed out loud continuously for the day that I got to borrow one. Reviewers are echoing my experience.
@@TrainLovers-TL69 iJustine is basically a walking ad for Apple. Consider every iJustine video a commercial for Apple just like any other commercial you would see on TV. That's what iJustine feels like to me
given the insane parts cost and how much RnD went into bringing this device to market, I don't think the price is unreasonable. Expensive, yes, but not a bad price.
05:35 the pressure marks make him seem like he is blushing
UwU
Was thinking the same thing 😂
Most people don't want to wear a VR headset for hours every day, this is the main reason VR is still largely failing
Linus anime girl confirmed
UwUTT
I was gonna comment 'fix the WiFi!', but then I realized that less-than-ideal WiFi is better for that area. Showing more real-world access is actually a plus.
the face marks look brutal
Tbh my Quest 2 is worse, but that only cost me €250
his face was red
linus always gets bad face marks
At first glance it looked like someone played a trick and put red dye on the light seal. Unfortunately, it wasn’t a trick, it’s just that bad 😂.
@@Viperspider1 quest 2/3 are fixable with 50 bucks headstrap, this is not
Probably the best review you guys have EVER done, loved the whole displays segments and couches coming in, the pure definition of "pictures worth a thousand words"
The way you visualize how it looks throught the vision pro is ingenious. Best Apple Vision Pro review I have seen so far!
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i suppose that you have tired it if you know how it conveys the visualization? would you buy it?
Have you not used virtual reality headset yet bro? Get the quest 3 the immersion is insane
Using the $3400 headset to view your $1500-$1800 laptop screen is definitely the future we're all hoping for lol.
It's $3500..
The time spent on this review is amazing. Showing multiple ways to how the Vision Pro looks like to regular people like moving tvs around so many times. The commitment to quality you guys have now is amazing.
Loved the "theater" bits with the actual monitors and the home cinema setup including real life friends coming together.
Paid friends
Paid friends
Those friends are paid actors.
@@piyh3962 I believe those are called "employees" 😂
@@piyh3962 I believe those are called "employees" 😂
I like how Linus' face becomes progressively redder every minute 🤣
looks like facepaint
Sure makes me want to "buy" this product!
That was cherry on the top :-)
As a live audio engineer, I ofter have to set up my work area with limited time and space, and tear everything down a few hours later. Having multiple, virtual screens that don't need to be transported, mounted, and wired up each night sounds like a pretty helpful thing to me.
Too bad you can only have 1 right now. I'm looking forward to whenever that limit is removed.
You also need to set it up virtually every time at the moment. No saving virtual setups yet
@@DysfunctionNoMore but there's the thing right ? Would you rather carry 2 screens , a mic , a soundboard , etc , or a simple small bag with a wired battery case which completely fits in ur bag
It’s hard to beat the physical feel of mixing on faders but you can’t argue with convenience.
@@Evaman1001 you could have fake faders that are purely designed to feel good to move around :D
I'd just like to point out how insane of a camera man linus is with this thing,, constantly being aware what your head movement would look like in post is a crazy skill to have
I LOOOVE the couch with friends part...thx LLT for bringing that up.
me too !! do you know how i could find what background music did they use ? it's so good
@@marwane5647 Very probably composed by the team or contracted. The LMG doesn't like to risk ANY kind of demonetization
What is this "friends" thing you guys are talking about?Is it a computer?
@@armandoubisse3506expensive peripherals. Overrated.
Timestamp is 21:22@@armandoubisse3506
5:29 I love how he talks about working in this headset with red face
Why was he red? 🤔
@@KaoPii-Dingus Because of the pressure to his face from the vision pro
He was so kawaii
vr still sucks. Itll get better in 1-4 more gens. No prob waiting.
@@tali5197 no shit
First time I'm commenting one of your video! As everyone else has said already, this is a brilliant review, and a brilliantly produced video. I loved every single bit of it. The work that was put in the transitions and the physical illustrations (the 3 displays with the mask and the one-shot setup of a living room with people coming in as you review the product) were exceptional, funny and added so much value! The review itself is on point too. No easy trash-talking, just lots of facts put in context and said with lots of subtlety and appreciation. Well done folks 👏
Best LTT review ever. I could not stop laughing at the scene where the guys were lifting the freaking-heavy TV to put it on top of the desk 😂😂
@@Knox420 🙄 yes ltt is going to pay someone whom has watched nearly most of their videos throughout the years, from the very beginning, just because. 😂 -
No clue why, but that clip of dan touching grass made me so happy
Because it's once in a lifetime.
Because he's wearing a vr headset
Dan is not allowed outside. I'm reporting this
Dan makes me so happy. He's such a fun, clever goober. Top quality human person.
Dan is such a hilariously expressive guy. From the look on his face, the clothes he wears to the way he pats the grass, there's just this dorky charm to all of it.
Miss not having the intro. Love how LMG put it on this vid.
Yess!
YES. #BringBackLTTIntro!
I love that it's back
#BringBackLTTIntro It's the best on the platform! (IMO)
The segue to sponsor buts are getting really annoying. I'm constantly trying to anticipate them so that I can skip forward before I hear it. I hate the cringe more than the actual sponsor message
I put this on a side screen to be on "the background" while i was focusing in something else... I ended watching the whole thing and left everything else aside. Great and fair review, Great video, great edition, great script, that movie part with friends...a delight. Amazing job everyone!
Linus watching the laptop screen in pass through is like going to an arena and watching the Jumbotron the whole game
its like going to a concert and watching it through your phone screen while you record a bad video with terrible audio.
yeah, except the real world has the screen clarity of the jumbotron and the jumbotron has the screen clarity of the real world in that analogy.
Yessss
@@AKATenn ....what. this is one of the stupidest comments i have ever read. congrats
@@hoolihanohoolihan1011 because the real world is being seen through cellphone cameras, and he complained about the image quality, but the window on the headset was super high quality.
so the real world is blurry, but the screen inside the headset is super crisp.
"let tim cook" ah god i laughed at that
I forgot that his name wasn't "Tim Apple"
@@QuadraKev Wdym "wasn't"?
@@FirestormX9watch like the first 30sec of the video
let tim cook is a twitch emote lol
I've just seen Shogun episode 2, i'm not sure if cooking Tim is OK anymore.
Hardware: Cool
Practicality: wtf do I even use this for
Price: Just get multiple monitors
Hotel: Trivago
This sums it up. The apple vision pro is thriving on hype. If it was another tech company it would be seen as a gimmick after one week.
It an expensive piece of fancy e-waste! The practical use cases is non existent slim. Maybe the best use for this device is to take money from the rich and re-distribute it to the ultra rich while all the normal people just look on and shake their heads. Honestly that is more or less Apple's entire business model, take money from well-off people and put it in tim cook's pockets.
It's a moronic piece of tech that serves zero real world purpose.
I’ve seen an innumerable amount of tech videos, but they were merely satisfactory. However, the manner in which you’ve constructed this review is genuinely extraordinary. The meticulous process and the content of the video are outstanding. Ordinarily, I refrain from leaving likes or comments on any video, but your video was so compelling that I had to pause and voice my appreciation for your hard work.
My compliments to Nicole Yuen 18:12, for the really smooth and consistent audio mixing. No level jumps. No audible cuts. No ambiance switches.
As long as the audio is consistent, you can cut and jump in your video edits however you please.
using some good ole Sennheiser HD650. One of my favourites
Nice eye, they are really goated@@a1any
@@a1anyi just got a pair!
@@a1anythe hur dur sixfiftos from ole mate senny
@@jonasharp3 Tracktribe "Walk Through The Park" starts playing
The effort that went into this video can't be understated. That Encanto transition was as much a piece of art as the the vision pro is. Hats off to Alex and the team for this one (and whoever came up with this video concept).
And the part where he was "repositioning his monitors" was so well thought out too 😂
Can't be OVERstated. Unless you're accusing them of being lazy.
10 years from now it will be probably thin as regular eye glasses selling for around $500 bucks or less.... that's just how electronics technology works. Oh and PornHub will look amazing with these. lol
@@Cplayz08 For real, Shout out to Collin for not only moving around a giant TV, but also acting while doing it. Had to be a real chore, and he pulled it off.
@@6yjjk - IKR? People (like me) misuse, “understated“ and, “overstated” all the time.
For me, it just takes too long to figure out which one is proper for the point I’m trying to make because, “understated“ is a bit of a double-negative and I get confused. So I just try one and hope I get it right. 😂
The true purpose of the Apple Vision Pro is to exist as a 'price anchor' to sell the true product: Apple Vision Air/Core
Nah, it's the same thing as with the Apple Watch or iPad: to have a dev platform. They will quickly, and quietly, discontinue it, and end support for it not much longer after that.
Yeah and to get developers to develop apps for that eventual device 'Air' version. You're paying to beta test this device right now. It's basically a devkit with a public release.
Yep, will make the Apple Vision "Air" at 999,99 look like a steal
Honestly I think they know the VR / XR enthusiasts would buy it at pretty much any price point. Whether its $2k or $3500 or $5k it would sell pretty much the same number of units. My configuration of storage and prescription lenses was about $4k.
It feels like they're waiting on the community to find all the best use cases for it and buy more time for when they could release a cheaper version that will be more of a consumer headset. The people who bought it now are the guinea pigs, which is what makes it exciting for the enthusiasts anyways.
@@AndrewSouthworth I think it was a wise move to price it so high. It was always going to be an initial test run product that would give them feedback for a later, more useful version. If they'd priced it at a more accessible level, more people in the general public would have bought it, been disappointed, and passed on later models. The price point they set means that most people that bought are in the same category as Linus. Tech nerds that are disappointed, but also excited to see what comes next.
This is why Linus, and his team, are the best in this field of RUclips. This review is a credit to the whole team.
0:46 I feel like LTT listened to me specifically when I said that I miss the intro 🥺
So nice I watched it twice
Fr, him being shaved was really nostalgic too, I do prefer the beard though.
Me too, don't know why they stopped doing it
@@sbalgeti didn't even realise he shaved it, I've watched too much of both lol
@@GarbanzoBeansFanit’s bad for viewer retention
Oh hey lol 👋
OMG it's really been eons since u guys put up the intro... this is awesome.
not only that
They put the sponsor spot AFTER the intro, WITHOUT a segue
The last time they did that was the video before the 7980XE review 7 years ago
@@TheHammerGuy94why would you remember that
It would be really cool to see a follow-up video in 6mo or a year to see how the app landscape has changed and if developers are beginning to take advantage of the tech.
And Apple fixing any shortcomings in software with VisionOS 2.0.
Do you remember Magic Leap? Yeah...
better to wait for the vision pro with all the feedback taken, UX improvements and all the apps. Maybe on that time you can even use 3rd party controls to play games.
God I hope not.
I genuinely pray this fizzles hard - between this thing and AI the worst events in tech
@@JE-zl6uyHow is a vr headset with decent passthrough a bad thing?
Honestly this is the best LTT video ive seen in a while, a lot things in this video just makes sense
I loved "what absolute mad lad would have a tv this big" Linus of course 💀
I was coming to say just this exact same thing, his TV is even bigger
i won't break the 69 likes
This was an amazing, balanced, detailed and really entertaining review. One of your best. Hats off to the writers!
Yes I'm not a big fan, but after the the Verge, this is the next best review. MKBHD's wasn't memorable
Spatial capture and multi big screen home theatre. Good selling points, just not $4K worth of selling points. Also, it would be better with interface standards rather than locked into the Apple cult...err..."ecosystem".
Not really; cringeworthy at the end, and a bit preachy. Bias is clear
@@TheBlazingRiver
Found the butthurt apple fanboy
@@TheBlazingRiver What was the bias? Based on what?
You gotta love the bright red marks around Linus face when he takes the thing off. You can see an almost perfect outline of the thing. Imagine wearing it for several hours.
he did :)
In the future when everyone’s walking around with these things everyone’s gonna have a giant red ring around their eyes all the timr
@@Automobile7777 By then I imagine there will be smaller and lighter devices, like “headsets” in the shape of glasses with big frames for example.
I vaguely remember some animes with VR lenses but I doubt there would be much traction. No way in hell I’m putting electronics in my eyes, especially above the cornea…
Honestly one of the best reviews you guys have ever done on this channel.
I'm so glad you guys took your time reviewing this. I was expecting you to be very very critical on the Apple Vision, what i wasn't expecting was the surprisingly positive and optimistic take on this. I agree with absolutely everything you said in this video which almost never happens for me with your content (more of a me issue than an issue with your content) This was just so thoroughly researched, elegantly explained and demonstrated. Love it, thanks for being a responsible industry lead here in the tech space of RUclips.
Probably one of the best reviews in recent memory.
It's not another, "boo! Apple, this! or boo! Apple that!". It genuinely feels like an appreciation for the engineering that has taken place to bring this market with appropriate critical analysis of its shortcomings.
I am not an anti Apple guy but charging $3,500 to $4,000 is way too much. If they was $350 they would be selling a lot more. How does this change the game with Apple charging so much. Same issue back in the mid 90s when they had good products but way more expensive then a pc competition to allow you to do what? It’s a hard sell.
@@neubauerjosephget lost mate lol. It’s a leading tech, leading tech costs money. Look how much varjo aero costs and you don’t e en have controllers and you have to buy the towers separately.
When you’re doing something new or advanced to everybody else, that has costs.
350 are you insane? You can’t even get a reverb G2 for that price,…
@@neubauerjosephnot to disagree with you there but even other companies charge high prices. There’s new laptops these reviewers are advertising that are leaving out how much certain products cost and they’re like $4000 minimum. Plus there are laptops to which are not as upgradable as a pc and sometimes can get too hot. Laptops are my preferred use but I do see that it overheating can be an issue which is why I prefer bulky laptops whereas the new $4K laptops are very thing that may have better specs, won’t matter if they overheat very often. On top of that, Samsung also has phones equal if not more expensive than Apple iPhones. It’s all becoming the same it’s just Apple is the easiest target
This video was incredible. The review was really good, but the way information and concepts were conveyed made it a lot more understandable. I feel like this video was a big step ahead in quality.
16:37 I love how he is using a small teleprompter while wearing the vision pro.
As much as I'd love to have one of these collecting dust on the shelf next to the other VR headsets I've FOMO bought in the past, 3500 bucks is "buy a used car for my kid when he hits 16 in a few years" kinda money, and this thing is little more than an expensive toy that's too heavy for a proper day of work, too limited to be better than a simple trio monitor setup, and too walled in by apple to ever have a proper gaming experience. I was an early VR adopter, but once the shine wears off, it's too much of a hassle. Thanks for rocking the Goggle face marks btw Linus, reminds me of the Quest 1 days, that thing must hurt after a bit!
Yup, in 5-10 years I think it'll be down to 600-1000 & improved QOL to be competitive
5-10? more like 2-3.@@jtn191
@@jtn191 When was the last time Apple lowered the price of one of their products?
@@Ned.Kattan In the 90s, if I remember right.
5:18 you can see Linus was not lying when he said the headset puts pressure on his cheekbones lol
@07:19 Woooooah! the thing splashed on to the real chair in the scene! 😂😂😂 THAT is cool, ngl😂
nice catch
As someone who has a g9 and a 43 inch 4k oled as monitors at the same time. Having more large monitors, is a yes!
This is exactly what I was wanting from something like this. In a few years my setup might just be a headset instead of monitors
But then you realize that Apple in their infinite wisdom only allow one monitor. WHY??
I went from a multi monitor setup back to a single monitor. I don't miss it at all. Multiple monitors didn't add anything for me and I actually found it kind of distracting. To each their own, though.
@@Skrenja I ever only had 2 monitors, but i think for me that's perfect. Many things can need 2 things. Gaming on the main monitor, discord open on the other one. School Project on one monitor, researching on the other one. Youtobe on the one. Group chat on the other one. Remembering what 1 monitor was just seems bad for me.
I only paid 20€ for my second monitor. It is 1080p 60hz about 22" old acer one. That's a great cheap upgrade for everyones setup!
@@Skrenja Were they they all the same monitor or did they serve different purposes? I know people who have two or three completely different panels for different stuff.
This felt refreshingly nuanced, as have recent LTT videos. Great job guys
15:27 like the script telling you about our sponsor. Chance missed.
I’m sorry, but I think you have missed a really versatile use case for the Vision Pro headset. I travel for work a lot. My home set up is an 80 inch 1080p display mounted on the wall and 2 x 27 inch 4K monitors on my desk plus my 14 inch M3 MacBook Pro screen so I am running a four screen set up all the time.
I have to wear glasses to read and I have the big screen on the wall because I do a lot of CAD editing and design work as well as a lot of large spreadsheet work and this is the ideal monitor to do that on. It also allows me to share the content with other members of my team whilst I am at a standing desk.
All of this is lost when I travel and I spend probably four days a week on the road. I actively delay doing large scale drawing edits and a lot of my spreadsheet work until I get back to my home office simply because I don’t have the screen real estate to do that.
I know this is true for a lot of my colleagues And for a lot of people who like to work on large multi monitor set ups. The Apple Vision Pro allows me to do that on the move whilst only carrying my M3 MacBook.
I can now be far more productive whilst I’m out on the road. You are assuming that whoever is using the unit is sat behind a desk at work. That is not the case this is suitable for. It is when I am out on the road and I don’t have all my external monitors, that is when this comes into its own.
I can run all of my native apps from my MacBook whilst having Safari in a separate window, my messages in a separate window a movie playing in background in a separate window all running off the headset. It is an amazingly powerful working environment and I think that is where Apple gets the spatial computing naming convention from.
As a large scale multi monitor environment for travelling, I really don’t think it could be beaten
"let tim cook" had me laughing
My Quest 3 works fantastically fine through VR Steam and VR Desktop. It's godly using a PC Link cable.
This is one of the greatest LTT videos ever made.. Top 10
This was one of the most fun videos to watch - lots of interactivity between the staff and Linus - superb!
19:09 also, the Apple Vision does not currently support mustard gas filtration
Next update fs
Can't wait to see bearded linus in VR
stop trying to spread the beard to every man lol
The comparison between a $500 and $4000 headset is crazy
The AVP is better hardware, sure.
But is it SEVEN TIMES better? It's a very valid comparison to make.
@@DemmrirIt's not even 1.5x better.
For the price of one of these you can get your whole family Quest 3's with minimal difference in quality
They're not comparing it between a 500 dollar headset. They're comparing it to ever headset ever which includes 10,000 dollar headsets.
Which were cool but had horrible ergonomics, clarity, and tracking problems. These specs wise are the best headset ever made as an all rounder. It just has no usable software.
@@MallchadAnd no motion controllers.
@@TechnoMinarchist We could have atleast forgiven this because controllers can always be added in the future. But right now its just another horrible thing to add to a product nobody should buy.
The existence of these apple goggles, having experienced it firsthand, and publishing a review of it in a journal has convinced me to consider getting the $200 meta quest goggles. Thanks apple, for guiding me to your competitor.
For $3500 you could get a 4090 and a 7800x3D and still have $1500 left to build the perfect PC. It's just awful value. A Meta Quest is like, $499? Throw that in too, and you have the option of VR with a bleeding edge computer.
Totally agree, the Quest 3 and monster rig with Wifi 6 is by far the best VR experience right now.
yeah bro agreed it is just not worth it for that price😢
and with that 1000$ leftover you can buy an apple stand!
@GHOSTSTARSCREAMwell, straw is usually found in hay bales, so.......
A gaming pc is very different from what the vision pro trues to do. Yes the value is very questionable, but a gaming pc can't replace this. The reverse is also true
Waiting for your "old PC is your new server" Linux version. Casaos is good for server and truenas is good for nas. I'm excited to see what you'll do
i have 3 old dell optiplex's and i need to know how to connect them and make them talk to eachother
Give them a six-pack of beer and leave them alone.... If it works it works, if it doesn't .... U have a six-pack
did you really pay money to post a comment lmao
Yeah It would be nice to see that video. Loved the first one but they used windows and I would love to see linux version where there is less BLOAT
He did not pay money to post a comment. He supported them.@@HaVoKxii
Great review, worth the wait 100 percent! Love the technical in depth, very coherent, just great all around!
nah but for real, hauling those tvs back and forth mustve been a ton of effort, loved the different perspectives in this vid.
Lol. Remember when your parents said not to sit too close to the TV? Now the TV is strapped to our faces.
that is not how it works
@@ArnikoGiri Thanks for explaining that. I obviously literally thought they strapped TVs to their faces.
@@michaelhill6451I mean, that is not how the eyes work in VR. Having a VR headset on isn't the same as sitting close to the TV.
Back then the TV is a cathode ray tube which can leak x-rays. Nowadays, it is lcd/led which has none of that stuff.
@@ArnikoGiri Want to know because you say this, isn't the eye lens accomodating as if focusing on an object extremely close?
18:59 is fu**king hillarious
The beard. R.I.P 0:01
Just tried the new Apple Vision Pro and as a PC gamer it has got to be the most mind blowing experience ever. The technology uses, the graphics quality, the sound quality, absolutely amazing. I nearly cried during their immersive video demo. Yes, it's really expensive but boy what an awesome piece of tech.
AI wrote this
@jodo2785 lol. Didn't know AI could get married, get a job and have children.
Isnt there a travel mode that allows you to have the items float around as you move 15:10?
There is. I guess Linus just didn’t know about it lol
So that's what travel mode does.
15:23 Doesn't travel mode fix this? I know Mkbhd talked about having the window move with you
the intro is back???
ow yeah !
I stopped watching LTT reviews a long time ago, but if this is the elect if quality I can expect of the channels moving forward, I’ll certainly stick around! Great job everyone!
7:49 watching po. . . Oh no? Okay
No you got it 😂
I'm glad that thought didn't occur to me. In fact, even with you saying I'm still not there.
Watching this on my Apple Vision Pro.
Me too and cooking lol
@@Xll148I feel sorry for both of you
0:12 who tf is WE
My buddy has the VP and he had to mod his head strap within a week due to discomfort. This is a HUGE oversight and this is what I've come to expect from Apple.
Every complaint I’ve seen on this is price and expectations related. But I think people are missing the point. This is just version one guys. Wait until this tech is working in a pair of regular looking glasses and this will be the biggest game changer since the original iPhone.
One of the best if not the best review of the apple vision pro ever made! Well done to Linus and its amazing team!
As a PC guy, they mirrored my toughts exactly.
I had a chance to try my friends and holy crap my mind was blown. I thought it was dumb until I put it on. Not an Apple fan boy... Im a PC user but holy crap this made me more excited about the future of technology than I have been in a very long time.
Really appreciate the quality of this video and honest review, ty ltt
Finally, a sane review of this thing. And Linus is exactly right. It IS about convenience. The smartphone took off despite its expense because having something like that in your pocket all the time was a huge improvement in convenience for practically everyone who tried it. Said it before and I'll say it again: AR has more practical value than VR. We live in the real world, and "pass through" is a massively over complicated and expensive solution to a self-imposed problem. Just give me some light weight glasses that can put info from my phone or another input in my FOV without being a huge distraction. I want a HUD, not a device that isolates me in my own little reality.
A good and honest review, well balanced and well said. I have known from the beginning that I did not have a use case for the Vision Pro. I know my Quest 3 is not on the same level in many ways, but I do have a use case for it, as I like to exercise, play games (stand alone and pcvr) and enjoy watching movies as well, and with Big Screen I can do it with others at same time. Yes I know the fidelity is not on par but once again to be able to watch a movie in a theater with my brother who lives 800 miles away is still pretty cool. I imagine that the Vision Pro has set a new bar and I hope that by the time the Quest 5 comes out, we will have all the pluses of the Vision Pro with all the pluses of the Quest 3. In the mean time I can wait.
19:28 Linus said it before with him thinking about looking at a phone screen all day while using the Vision Pro. The downside to avid VR headset use, is that even if there’s an illusionary trick to make it seem like the screen is far away, the screen is actually an inch away from your eyes in an enclosed environment.
linus saying "tim apple" with a straight face is so funny
This is the literally best and most useful review on the Vision Pro!
The main advertised use case for this reminds me of the early obsession over tablets. Everyone had one. News readers had one, the were being used in supermarket checkouts, people who could just as easily use a notepad had one. 10 years later and I can't remember the last time I saw one in use other than a friend who uses one to read magazines. Same thing with voice assistants on phones. Nobody wants the attention of talking to their people in public. Even at home people in general don't want to talk to their phone. Today it's a forgotten fad.
Where tablets got maybe a decade, the idea of sitting in a meeting wearing a headset probably won't get any traction and that selling point won't be mentioned in as little as a year.
One of your best reviews ever. Great work. Really nuanced, balanced and just honest. Thank you.
Hilariously, MacOS *DOES* have touch support- if you connect an external USB-c Touchscreen monitor, it works almost flawlessly. The Vision Pro just uses a very different connection method, so the touch manipulation is done very differently by MacOS when you’re connected to one.
I think spatial devices will take off once you can have shared AR spaces (which includes each person being able to afford their own headset). The isolating aspect of headsets really is a huge drawback now, but imagine sitting at a table with everyone and "turning your monitor around" to show something to the group, all while keeping your other windows in place and no one having to stand up or move around. I see a lot of potential with new window types, like a floating display that is always facing you--put it in the center of the table and everyone sees it the way you do!
Anyway, thank you for the great review, loved the thorough coverage of different use cases and the use of visual aids.