I think two big problems with them is they had some quality control issues plus for a while they were known for not really having anything special about them while newer printers were getting a ton of useful features for a similar price. However, from what I can tell, they have now caught up and their printers now offer plenty of features, print faster, and have better print quality than before. I'm not sure about quality control, but I'm sure that went up too. Either way, you're right, they made 3d printing a lot more affordable and brought a ton of people to it. 3d printing probably wouldn't be quite where it is today without Creality.
wrote: "Creality gets a lot of hate, but they pretty much made 3d printing affordable for anyone." -- You mean brining Ender with all of its problems, as opposed A1 that just works?
Bambu A1 by a long shot. Bigger build volume, multi-color capability, quick swap nozzles, dynamic flow calibration, etc. It's just amazing. The ender 3 V3 is commendable, it's just outclassed here. It's more of a $250 machine.
Can you believe that?! Think about what you just said for a moment… prices have changed so much, that a loaded machine like the V3 to be competitive has to be down in the $250 price range, crazy isn’t it?! Love this!
@@fastlanerc8 the same people that say competition is great is the same people that bitch about everything being made in china. Some folks just talk to talk
Combine that with cheap 1st party filament, PLA and PETG for $15 a roll for refills when you buy 4 at a time with free shipping. You can’t beat that. The spools are also sturdy and easy to load refills, combined with rfid recognition. It’s hard to beat Bambu. Creality would have to come in much cheaper.
I got an A1 last week . It has been much better than I expected . I did not get the AMS as i dont really need multi color prints , but I have since learned AMS can be used to keep feeding filaments if your current spool runs out . Only thing i found lacking was by default the A1 build plate is textured PEI on both sides . My CRUX 1 was textured and smooth on the other side. So I orderd the textured and smooth extra build plate. It's needed for printing stuff when needing smooth mating surfaces. The flow calibration has even let me print with some old low quality filament that changes dia. quite a bit. It printed many print-in-palce parts using that bad stuff witout under or over extruding, I found that amazing. I plan to keep feeding it all my old problem filaments, just to see how it does.
This shows exactly the huge transformation in 3d printing. Creality have been in the game a long time but it took a company like Bambu lab to shake up the whole industry so people can get into 3d printing without the learning curve of flow calcs, bed levelling, retraction settings, stepper motor tuning and slicing settings that we all had to understand to tune our printers for great results. It’s great that other manufacturers as you have shown and stated in your videos are able to match the experience that you could only enjoy if you had a Bambu printer. If anything today Bambu lab will need to play a bit of catch up in the area of larger format printers, fingers crossed we will see something in the next few weeks. what the next evolutionary step will be and who brings it to the 3d printing community is going to be very exciting.
Very well said! I agree completely. Everything has quite literally changed in this industry because Bambu disrupted it, and that’s a good thing for all of us. And yes, I want a bigger machine too!!! Thank you for this!
@@LoyalMosesTrue. I was contemplating buying myself a Bambu P1S since it's $599 right now, but my Micro Center has a Creality K1 Max for only $699 so I'm gonna buy that instead. Watched lots of videos reviewing their performances and Creality did good with their latest machines not making me have to manually tune and tweak parts, leveling, and learning the ins and outs of a machine just to make it print out of the box like it should. The ender 3 pro days were a fun learning experience but I don't have time nowadays to force and kick a machine I paid with my own money to do what I paid for it to do, or buy expensive upgrades for it like I upgrade my gf's boobs 😅
" to match the experience that you could only enjoy if you had a Bambu printer." ... I disagree there. *A flawless experience has always been Prusa* ... especially with their MK3 and newer! Funny thing is: many people didn't want to put their cash down and bought a cheaper Ender 3 back in the day ... but suddenly those people are willing to give north of 1000 bucks to Bambu Lab and compare that to their old Ender 3 machines. Apples and bananas. And a fast experience has been Voron with Klipper ... long before Bambu Lab was born. No wonder why Bambu copied so much of these projects and companies. But without the Voron project, Klipper, PrusaSlicer and even machines like the Ender 2 (Pro) or Prusa Mini ... there would have never been a Bambu Lab, because they would have chosen another field as they described in interviews.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 bbl is the crapple of 3d printing world, taking the best of others and put them into a new shiny package and call it innovation
I started with a creality printer, and switched to resin putting my bed slinger in storage. Got the Bambu x1c, and now I design and print for both resin and fdm. Love the Bambu printers for the ease of use and detail. Not sure if I would veer away from Bambu at this point.
Awesome! I feel like your experience is very common recently, people are finding Bambu and loving it. Also, I love that you are doing both resin and FDM!!!
I had 3 ender 5 pros before I got my x1c. My very first printer couldn't even complete a print without having to take it apart and look at what the community had come up with to make it functional. My bambu didn't need any research to have success. Bumbu is clearly a great option. However my bambu cost more than I spent on all 3 of the enders so they have their place.
-- The choice is very simple: if you want printer that works great, then Bambu is the way to go, and if you into faulty electronics, and warranty with good "lip service" - Creality is it!
Thank you for the great comparison! I have the A1 on its way to me now, I can't wait to get started making ALL the things, especially tools and gadgets to compliment my woodworking hobby.
I’ll just chime in here and add my experience with the A1. I had one for about 6 months. Overall I’d say for a bed slinger it was the easiest to assemble and get printing straight out of the box. Print quality was as good as my fleet of X1c, P1P, P1S, and various Rat rig printers, when it was successful. The multi color option works almost as good as the core xy Bambu printers and auto spool change when you run out worked as intended. Also I did like that you virtually could use any spool with the AMS lite though some spools required an insert to properly fit on a spool holder that is easily printed. The quick change modules work very good, and is a very nice feature. With all that said the A1 is no longer a part of my print farm. I had multiple issues with mine knocking prints off the build plate, which in my opinion is the major downfall of any bedslinger. The failure rate on the A1 was abysmal at nearly 50%. Maybe it was the one I had but I tried adjusting x hop, switching from Bambu studio to Orca slicer, glue stick on the bed, to no avail. It was hard having this machine, the only bed slinger in my shop, in with multiple core xy printers. Had the failure rate not been so bad I’d likely still have it in my shop, but instead it only reinforced my opinion that for me I should stick with core xy printers. And finally I want to touch on some of the comments about “security” with Bambu. The comments always seem to creep into nearly every video about Bambu. First I have to ask what exactly is it you are printing that your that worried someone at Bambu is going to steal, and in regards to camera privacy, the A1 has a cover, and it’s not difficult to place an item to block outside view of the printer. You can even use the printer in lab only mode or not connect it to WiFi at all and use the SD card if your that worried about “security”. Also if someone wants to copy your secret files so bad it’s not that hard to simply copy the design. I’d worry more about your cell phone, computer, tablet and alexia equipped devices prying into your privacy then a 3D printer.
@@LoyalMoses I saw the guilt in your eyes when you pocketed it in the end. All right, good content, so I'll allow it, this time. Funny enough, I just spent around $350 on an Infimech TX, and not regretting it in the slightest, a seriously underrepresented printer on youtube. Hard to find something to compare it to, maybe Kingroon KLP1, but I think it's a way better deal.
Bambu A1 all day long for me I have 10 bambu labs now not all A1 but I have a couple and I also have a couple of k1 Max's but the bambu labs print the best quality and with least fails and clogs etc
Wow it would be a hard decision. Both are excellent. I think I would lean toward the Bambu A1 since it can be upgraded to the AMS Lite., snice the Creality Ender 3V3 does not have some type of AMS. Excellent review and it should clear up any question anyone has. Loved the review LM.
CP5 took my K1 Max to a new level. And the supports are better than any other machine ive seen! Also, love RJ designs models on Makerworld. Great video Magnum LM!
@@LoyalMoses No problem. And if I could suggest a song for the future (if you use Daft Punk again), I'd go with either Da Funk, Aerodynamic, Short Circuit, or Voyager, depending on the vibe you want to go for
I’d have to go with the A1 on this one, it’s bigger, able to do multi color, has a camera (I know it’s not a very good one but I like to check on my prints), the extra sensors, the Bambu slicer, and the handy app plus the reliability of the Bambu printers, they just work
Planning to buy A1 because it has AMS (option) and quick swap nozzle (no idea if Creality has one too), those are important features for me personally.
Great video! I love the editing and how concise the content is and the detailed comparison as well. I've gotten into 3D printing with an Ender 3 V3 SE and it's been great, looking for an upgrade but I think I might stick with Creality. The Bambu's dual filament feature drives me away actually. I've seen videos on the A1 and it's just simply too wasteful, the amount of "poo" it generates can sometimes even outweigh a finished product, I don't see a reason to purchase a printer with this feature until we have an easy, reliable and efficient way of Recyling PLA's. Keep the content coming, great stuff!
Love those twisty models by RJ I have printed a few of them. If it was my money I would buy the A1 just for the user experience but the V3 isn't to far behind, Both are great machines and would be happy with either one.
I'm looking for my first 3d printer and I ended up between these two models. I'm not sure, but Bambu A1 seems more user friendly to me... you didn't mention about canceling noise, does the Ender V3 have that? Great job, btw! Tks
Awesome choices! The A1 is far quieter, and no the V3 does not have that tech. If budget is not the reason, the A1 is the better printing experience hands down, it’s the best experience that we have ever had in 3D printing.
Hey, so I would like to buy my first 3D printer, and I'd like to get a program and 3D printer that are easy to use. I liked your video, but I still don't know which one I should buy. I liked the Creality Cloud because there are many good 3D models. Can I just download them and will they work on the A1? But I've heard a lot of negative things about the printer, and I don't know whether to believe them or not. I would have to buy the bigger version of it, I think. Or do you think it's a waste? As an experienced person, could you give me some help, please?
wrote: "But I've heard a lot of negative things about the printer, and I don't know whether to believe them or not." -- You don't have to believe me, but I bought Ender 3, as a motivation to learn CAD and 3D printing, since back then A1 just come out and was more expensive. Almost a year later, Ender 3 was out of the box, and failed to perform Z-Offset test and create a map due to the faulty electronics, and for almost a month(3 weeks) all I get, is bouncing around their tech departments where they recommend firmware updates, as well as prove of checking for "straightness" and levelness of the printer frame, which was Ok, but that did not fix a problem, and every time they demand pictures and videos, that is about 10-15 minutes long, then demand another video and ect. with no solution in sight. -- Besides design and build quality of A1 is far superior rail vs. round sliders, and in many other respects. I'm a wrong person to ask about Creality Cloud, but I think, if you have to print, you still have to download STL files, and then slicer converts those to G-code, but I'm not sure, since I got printer for creating my own parts, and wish I'd knew what I know right now about these two printers. I wish the choice would be so clear, to save yourself much frustrations.
I bought an A1 and used it until the recall and then got the X1C. I miss some of the features still from the A1 and it's an amazing printer for the money.
Enjoyed the video. Hmmm. Which would i pick. If i did not know anything about either brand and you gave me this choice i would have a very difficult decision I think even if i could put hands on both feeling the build quality. All that being said and knowing what i know right now i would without a doubt go with the Bambu A1! That is not really a dig at Creality as i own a Creality KE and I really like it. The Bambu A1 is a more polished printer with much more under the hood than people might realize. Even with that statement above, if you put both prints in front of me and asked me which printer printed which part, I don't think it would be a clear cut choice. As far as slicer goes, comparing Bambu and Creality Print, i choose Bambu! I'm sorry i do not like the new Creality Print slicer. I know its a personal choice and not a bad attempt as making their own "cut" of other slicers but I am sure why some vendors are choosing this option. Orca is so good and already does everything you could want it to do. Why not create a "tuned" profile for your printers and release that for the popular slicers that are available. (ie Cura, Orca, Prusa...)? Thanks for the comparison video Loyal.
You basically echo how I feel. The A1 is more polished for sure, has more features and the user experience is unmatched. I wish we got less custom slicers and got better profiles, would just be better for us, along with more filament profiles! Thanks for this!
I know Creality has been in the game much longer, but I think I'd rather have the Bambu Lab A1. Also, that blue filament is amazing. I would love to know what the color and maker is. On the downside, I have to say, that music you chose for the montage...not my favorite. But I'm just one random dude on the Internet. What do I matter?
Very true! They are both Polymaker blue, one is a metallic and the other is a PolySonic blue. loyal.ms/polymaker (aff) What?! You are the ONLY person to not like Daft Punk and you 3D print! What?! 😃
@@LoyalMoses you do you, but it ain't my jam. It was way too repetitive. I'm much more of a pop/rock and roll from the 80s guy. 90s music is okay, I suppose.
I think people are super happy to get the Ender 3 V3 for possible upgrade with Klipper. The Bambu A1 for a slight size upgrade and for people that just don't care to mod. I think either way the owner that is a novice or vetraine will be happy with both printers due to the quality of the prints they can produce.
The A1's hotend and nozzle will still be available from Bambu in X years. Creality has the habit of changing parts like that with every iteration of their printers and then after a couple of years you can no longer get the replacement parts you need for your printer and are forced to buy a new one. So, just for the professional after-market supplies I'd go with the Bambu.
This is interesting, because the number one complaint from the anti-Bambu crowd is that Bambu will suddenly stop making aftermarket parts, which of course is nonsense. Creality by far has the largest number of aftermarket parts for their printers, with entire companies existing to provide upgrades and mods for them. Further, for the most part, especially with a quickly moving technology, keeping a 4 or 5 year old or more printer around doesn't make sense - the tech is advancing so fast, it is wiser to buy a newer machine. Of course, there are reasons someone may not want to or be able to buy new, and if someone wants to keep an old printer around, there are unlimited aftermarket upgrades and modifications, so nothing is really getting in the way with either of the machines.
Bambu and AMS for me when it first came out. I had Enders and one Kobra before that and I am very happy with the switch, I still have the Kobra and will use it this fall when I make my Toys for Tots production run in conjunction with IC3D
I see your Ender 3, and I up it with my OG Tevo Tarantula Kit. Still printing after 7 years, it's down for maintainance right now as I'm switching from my Bowden e3D V6 setup to a Hemera XS with a Revo hotend. On the software side, Prusa slicer on my PC with a 2 years out-of-date version of Octoprint and Klipper as a firmware allow me to do the same "Print over Wifi" things that the Bambu does, I've been operating my printer like that for years now.
@mastah39 as long as it gets the job done. I plan on running klipper on my ender as wall, as soon as I get the cables. I also tried prusa slicer once but it broke my brain, I think I'll stick to cura for now, perhaps I'll look into orca slicer in the future
So I bought a K1 Max about a year ago, and after tinkering with it for a while to try to fix its foibles, it got a clog and leaked everywhere, making a SUPER mess and I never got around to fixing it because I got sick for a while. I just got a FlowTech hot end replacement and I'm planning to tear apart the hot end to fix it, and I'm just wondering how you feel about this new generation of slingers compared to the K1-series? It's obvious the E3 V3 has pulled a LOT of design cues and experience from the K1 family, so I have to wonder how you feel these are compared to the K1.
So I chose the Ender 3 KE for my first printer and it was great for the first month and then started having several issues. I tried every recommendation that was given to me and it still fails every print. The biggest problems are the hot end clogging up or the print being knocked loose by the head. I’ve changed nozzles several times and I’ve only used Creality hyper pla filament. I ran the calibration before every print and the numbers change every time. I’ve talked to a lot of people and it seems I’m not alone with the KE printer having problems after about a month of use. I’m considering buying the A1 now.
The KE is a great machine, you shouldn't be having issues like this at all. I would guess that there is just something simple that is the cause of the trouble. The A1 is an amazing machine for sure, will produce better results, but that KE like I said is a really good machine too. Maybe jump into our discord and ask, we could help you out.
Many thanks for the simple but great video!...May I ask did you simply scale the Vortex Thread Illusion - Version 3 - Octagonal in the Slicer? and still have great fit and finish?
Hi. I can get the Flashforge Adventurer 5M and the Ender 3 v3 at the same price, which one should I get? (where I live bambu printers cost a lot more so this is not an option for now) thank you very much!
Thank you for the great comparison. I gonna order the A1 combo. I like the multi color function and if you have 2 of the same he continues if one runs out.
I'm shopping for my very first printer, Looking for a machine to use more casually on diy projects (nerf parts, switch housings, mounting brackets, organizers etc.) so ease of use is a higher priority. I just need a click and go type system. The A1 is listed at $339 and the V3 3D is on sale for $299. Is the A1's user friendliness worth the extra $40 or os $299 something to jump on?
Yes, the A1 would be the one for you to go with for sure. The user experience is the best the industry has ever seen, and you will have the option of multi-color if you want it later down the road.
What type of issues have you had with your A1? And I can say I spent $600+ on their products to realize the ams lite top mount screw pack was accidentally deleted due to my back and forth with filament choices I didn't understand.. and I submit a ticket requesting the $1.99 screws be added to my order.. to be told I needed to cancel and reorder my filament? Which was never a separate order so.. the feedback was misguided and definitely not human conscious or empathetic.. but what business model is? 😅 @@almag6872
i prefere the bambu lab i have a ender 3 v3 KE and have nothing but problems. then got a neptune 4 pro and had the same problems. bed leveling, z-offset and bed adhesion issues with every print. i did get some good prints but they were very few and far in between. got a bambu lab a1 mini and had just about every print i've done with it come out perfect and is perfect for beginner's. but great video
I bought a Ender 3 v3 in December and I was really looking forward to the printer as I am making 1/10 scale (printed) RC models. The auto level and speed was the main reason I thought this would be a great replacement for my old Ender 3 v2. Sadly this printer jams quite a lot (printing PETG) and when it does you can not easy clear it either, you have to take apart the whole print head. I have tried replacing hot end for a new Creality one but that also did not solve the problem. note I print on the same speeds as the old ender 3 so it was not a speed issue the Ender 3 S1 Pro I have does exactly the same prints with no issues at all, so did the old Ender 3 V2. If those printers have a jam (happens a LOT less) its fixed in 10 sec with nothing you have to take appart. Sadly I would never buy this printer (or any printer with the same printer head) again as it has cost me a lot of time effort and frustration to try to get it to work. Looks like I have to cut my loss and look for a new reliable printer. (Most likely the A1)
I would choose the Ender 3 V3 ... if not the cheaper KE/ SE model over the Bambu Lab, although I know the Bambu seems to be a good deal. As I understand Bambu Lab is undercutting the market with those cheap Chinese production costs and they copied many of their features from other projects ... but do not give something back. Nearly every feature has been invented from someone else. And not giving back (like an open source AMS system) is slowing innovation. Creality tried similar tactics but has done a good deal for the 3d printing community. Because of all those Ender 3s many people became makers. Some of their designs were even open source and an "inspiration" for others (Ender 2 inspired Prusa Mini and Bambu A1 Mini). I hope they improve further (like with their app which has gotten so much better!). But when a European company (Prusa) has nothing to offer in that price range ... I would choose Creality. Their Ender 3 V3, K1c and K2 offerings do not have to hide and have come a long, long way from the OG Ender 2 and 3.
Your choice of printer is great, those are nice machines, and I highly recommend them all the time for a multitude of reasons -- your other statements are absolutely what is wrong with a lot of the 3D printing community today. Simple nonsense. It reminds me of a bunch of people who bought into a team, and now their team is losing and they can't cope. Creality has brought an unbelievable amount of people into this industry over the years, and Bambu Lab has done the same. Bambu is bringing millions of people into our industry and has actually caused a massive shift in the quality and user experience of 3D printing, all for the better. Bambu is not building cheap machines, they are in-fact building extremely high-end machines at incredibly low prices, which is exactly what people want. If someone can find a reason why this is bad, their opinion is worthless. This nonsensical hatred and bias needs to end, these are just 3D printers, and the emotional connection that people put into a device that sits on a desk and spits plastic is in my opinion, quite silly. These people need to go outside, and touch a little grass. As for your "slowing innovation" comment... multi-color printing has been around for a decade, but why wasn't it popular? I'll tell you why, it was junk - it was open source, and it was worthless - we all used it, we all tried it, it was a terrible experience. It took a company that invested millions of dollars into R&D as well as manufacturing to bring multi-color 3D printing to the masses.
@@LoyalMoses You my friend, are an absolute ruthless objective critic. Exactly the type of person that should be doing review videos, and accepting machines as that, just machines, rather then having an emotional bias. You gained my subscription 🤙🏼
wrote: "I would choose the Ender 3 V3 ... if not the cheaper KE/ SE model over the Bambu Lab, although I know the Bambu seems to be a good deal. As I understand Bambu Lab is undercutting the market with those cheap Chinese production costs and they copied many of their features from other projects ... but do not give something back." -- Hey send me A1, if you don't want it, I'll send you my Ender 3, that is still new, as no filament been through, since it fails to do Z Offset test due to electronic problems, and Creality service was great at the beginning, they apologized and returned e-Mails with in 24 hours, with reminders, of not to forget to check "junk mail" folder, then they start to apologize for late responses, because I was transferred between departments, then weekend... almost a month later printer still don't work. I can't remember the time, when product did not work right out of the box, and warranty service was so bad, kinda reminds me late 1980s and early 1990s with PC(that is "personal computers" for the iPhone users out there(including me)...)... "good times"!
I would buy the A1, besides never having 1 issue minus the recall cough cough lol The customer service has been amazing and so has the machine. My k1 max was good out of the box but I've always had issues with the enders and customer service has always been a pain and replacement parts always took forever. Maybe I just am unlucky with creality 😂 so my money's on Bamboo labs. Great video by the way
Awesome! I think that service and support has always been a problem for some of these companies, Creality especially over the years. Recently, Creality has been focused on improving support and I hope it continues, because these machines are getting so much nicer. A lot of people are leaning towards the A1.
Thank you, I had seen that, but until there is more information and we know how they are going to do it, I didn’t want to include it just yet! I sure hope they do.
Great comparison video! Clean up close shots of the prints and very well laid out information on both of these machines. I lean towards the bambu but not by much. Just curious, what mic do you use? Me and my wife do 3DP content as well and took a while to work out the audio! Your audio is great!
The Bambu Lab is just not as easy to buy everywhere as the Creality. They don't even have a reseller where I live, and the closest one is about double that price before shipping. I picked up the Ender-3 V3 and it is crazy how good it is. Maybe because I'm coming from an Ender-3 Pro that printed great, but was always needing to be messed with, especially with the first layer.
Exactly! A lot of people forget that there are a lot of places in the world where the only printers available are Creality machines. They have been around a long time and have a large network.
Have you actually tried ABS/ASA on the BambuLab? I wasn't aware one could even select ABS or ASA on the printer's Filament selection menus. Yes, in theory, it should work as well as any other open frame printer but they seem to have blocked it on the printer and slicer. (My IRL experiences is limited to the A1 mini and assumptions have been made.) P.S: How did you get a license to use that music?
@@LoyalMoses Thx, I want to try printing some RC parts in ABS. The wiki only recommends low fill density settings on the A1 which will be less robust. How does this compare to the Ender in this video ?
Okay, I. Am abit late to this party and I watched this from start to finish. Which printer would you recommend to me, someone who is eyeing both printers and is on the fence about it because both pros to them.
I have an Ender 3 V3 SE, and I think that the Bambu Lab A1 might be better because it is less maintenance and overall just gives more features for the money it costs.
I currently have 2 anycubic vypers that I wud love to upgrade some how ?? Not many options to up grade it tho.. I have been looking very hard at the Bambu lab a1 .. for more consistent prints ..
@@LoyalMoses I wud love to have a A1 but wife says I have to many already .. I will have to sell one to get a Bambu A1 .. I love the absolute quality of that machine .
Idk im still super happy with my ender 3 and i want max strength with my prints so im already printing at a fraction of my printers capabilities. That being said its crazy how nice theses budget machines are becoming
Love the comparisons. Also creality has came out and said that the CFS will work with the Ender 3 V3, not sure about the V3 SE or KE yet though. I think both are solid machines to start out with in 2024. I personally am not a fan of the look of the A1, it looks like a toy while the Ender looks very sleek and steamlined.
Thanks. Yes, Creality told us this about the CFS a long time ago, but until there is some actual movement on it or evidence that it is happening I didn’t want to include that in the video. I wouldn’t want people to buy it based on hope.
If you've NEVER experience multi-color, go with the A1 mini w/ AMS! It is the most used printer in our house even though we have 100+ machines! You will love the experience!
Creality Print is hot garbage compared to Bambu Studio. The slicer wars are over and Prusa won. If you have your printer on something other than Prusa Slicer, Bambu Studio or Orca Slicer, you should do something about that. I've been doing custom parts on Creality Print for the last few weeks and more often than not I wind up doing the work on Bambu Studio and then pulling it up in Creality to print on my K1 Max. The Max is a worthy printer (not Bambu-worthy but bigger), but if I ever take the time to figure out how to network print with it using Orca, I'll uninstall Creality Print in a heartbeat. The fact that the A1 has AMS Lite puts these two printers in completely different classes. It's easy to minimize the impact of an AMS in a review or on paper, but if you have printers that have one and those those don't and you do a lot of printing, you quickly realize that printers without AMS are second class citizens, and that's even if you seldom do multi-color prints. Just the ability to stack four spools of the same material/color in the AMS and not having to worry about whether you have enough filament to complete the next 30-hour print job is priceless. Right now I'm on hour 29.5 of a 32.5 hour print, printing on the last few turns of a spool of yellow PETG, with another remnant spool in the AMS and a full spool behind that, and I don't have to watch it or stay up late so I can change the spool at just the right time. If I want to do my next job in Blue silk PLA, I just put the roll in the AMS and click print once I take the PETG off the bed. If you're buying printers based on the hope that Creality may make their AMS work with their older printers, then you're Charlie Brown to Creality's Lucy. She's going to pull that football away and you're bonkers if you bet against it. I won't go into overall user experience. Bambu has it nailed and Creality doesn't know it exists. Do I have faith the K2 will level the playing field? It's not possible if you're not playing on the same field. Creality needs to hire a team of talented engineers to just study and copy the Bambu experience. If they don't, some other company is going to get their first and offer a suite of Klipperized printers with a unified, positive user experience and give Bambu a run for their money and relegate Creality to an object lesson.
your 2nd para' re AMS , I did not know when I orderd my A1. When I found out an AMS can chain feed automaticaly, now AMS lite is on my 'next to get' list . It has been a very diffrent experiance compaird to all of my other printers rite down to Bambu Studio.
I really want a bambu a1 mini but bambu doesn't sell em here. I tried asking people if they could send me one and I'll cover the cost and shipping but no luck .
Can you adjust the Z offset on every job if desired on these machines that have auto bed-leveling? I print with an Ender 3V2 updated with Jyers. I have a pause command in my start-up loop that allows me to check the Z height and tweak it to perfection on every job. Would I lose this capability with these two machines?
You won’t need to adjust z-offset any longer. Bambu machines among a few others stopped doing that more than 2 years ago with millions of successful prints with perfect first layers as evidence. A lot were skeptical, many not wanting to give that up, but they ultimately proved that letting the machines bed level and set z automatically is the way to go.
I was seriously impressed by Bambu Labs. I bought a X1C. Liked it so much I bought another for my wife 3 weeks later. Ordered 6 AMS during their anniversary sale to max out both our printers. Waited for them to be back in stock to ship. Bambu shipped the 6 in 3 different packages. One got lost and it has been an absolute nightmare getting them to even respond to my support ticket. For a company that makes an amazing printer, they sure have terrible customer service and it’s safe to say, I won’t be buying my next printer thru them. I’ve spent close to 5 K all together in the span of a couple months and they can’t even respond to a simple file a claim with UPS and ship me the two AMS that you owe me. They lost me as a customer.
Their support can be a bit slow but for sure they will get back to you - they are growing super fast and I wish the growing pains weren't as bad as they are.
Very much liking your videos man.... recently got into 3d printing... your videos helped me choose my printer... yoir channel is gonna do really well.
That is super kind of you! Makes me happy to know I helped, and thank you for coming back to share this! 🔥🔥🔥
@@LoyalMoses I don’t know what I like most: print speed, print quality, wireless printing, Bambu studio. Overall experience is just superb
3D printing is moving in the right direction! So happy! 🔥🔥
Creality gets a lot of hate, but they pretty much made 3d printing affordable for anyone.
Absolutely! They’ve brought more people into 3D printing than any other company.
They also taught us how 3d printers worked by needing so much TLC. (Not hating, I have 3 ender 5 pros)
It’s true! A lot of makers and crafters born from Creality!
I think two big problems with them is they had some quality control issues plus for a while they were known for not really having anything special about them while newer printers were getting a ton of useful features for a similar price. However, from what I can tell, they have now caught up and their printers now offer plenty of features, print faster, and have better print quality than before. I'm not sure about quality control, but I'm sure that went up too.
Either way, you're right, they made 3d printing a lot more affordable and brought a ton of people to it. 3d printing probably wouldn't be quite where it is today without Creality.
wrote: "Creality gets a lot of hate, but they pretty much made 3d printing affordable for anyone."
-- You mean brining Ender with all of its problems, as opposed A1 that just works?
Bambu A1 by a long shot. Bigger build volume, multi-color capability, quick swap nozzles, dynamic flow calibration, etc. It's just amazing. The ender 3 V3 is commendable, it's just outclassed here. It's more of a $250 machine.
Can you believe that?! Think about what you just said for a moment… prices have changed so much, that a loaded machine like the V3 to be competitive has to be down in the $250 price range, crazy isn’t it?! Love this!
@@LoyalMosesyup competition is great
@@LoyalMoses Absolutely. It's crazy that we can now get an amazing printer like the A1 mini for $200.
@@fastlanerc8 the same people that say competition is great is the same people that bitch about everything being made in china. Some folks just talk to talk
Combine that with cheap 1st party filament, PLA and PETG for $15 a roll for refills when you buy 4 at a time with free shipping. You can’t beat that. The spools are also sturdy and easy to load refills, combined with rfid recognition. It’s hard to beat Bambu. Creality would have to come in much cheaper.
I got an A1 last week . It has been much better than I expected . I did not get the AMS as i dont really need multi color prints , but I have since learned AMS can be used to keep feeding filaments if your current spool runs out . Only thing i found lacking was by default the A1 build plate is textured PEI on both sides . My CRUX 1 was textured and smooth on the other side.
So I orderd the textured and smooth extra build plate. It's needed for printing stuff when needing smooth mating surfaces.
The flow calibration has even let me print with some old low quality filament that changes dia. quite a bit.
It printed many print-in-palce parts using that bad stuff witout under or over extruding, I found that amazing.
I plan to keep feeding it all my old problem filaments, just to see how it does.
Congratulations! It’s an awesome machine isn’t it?! The overall experience is the best we have.
Thank you for sharing!!!
This shows exactly the huge transformation in 3d printing.
Creality have been in the game a long time but it took a company like Bambu lab to shake up the whole industry so people can get into 3d printing without the learning curve of flow calcs, bed levelling, retraction settings, stepper motor tuning and slicing settings that we all had to understand to tune our printers for great results.
It’s great that other manufacturers as you have shown and stated in your videos are able to match the experience that you could only enjoy if you had a Bambu printer.
If anything today Bambu lab will need to play a bit of catch up in the area of larger format printers, fingers crossed we will see something in the next few weeks.
what the next evolutionary step will be and who brings it to the 3d printing community is going to be very exciting.
Very well said! I agree completely. Everything has quite literally changed in this industry because Bambu disrupted it, and that’s a good thing for all of us. And yes, I want a bigger machine too!!! Thank you for this!
@@LoyalMosesTrue. I was contemplating buying myself a Bambu P1S since it's $599 right now, but my Micro Center has a Creality K1 Max for only $699 so I'm gonna buy that instead. Watched lots of videos reviewing their performances and Creality did good with their latest machines not making me have to manually tune and tweak parts, leveling, and learning the ins and outs of a machine just to make it print out of the box like it should. The ender 3 pro days were a fun learning experience but I don't have time nowadays to force and kick a machine I paid with my own money to do what I paid for it to do, or buy expensive upgrades for it like I upgrade my gf's boobs 😅
" to match the experience that you could only enjoy if you had a Bambu printer." ... I disagree there.
*A flawless experience has always been Prusa* ... especially with their MK3 and newer! Funny thing is: many people didn't want to put their cash down and bought a cheaper Ender 3 back in the day ... but suddenly those people are willing to give north of 1000 bucks to Bambu Lab and compare that to their old Ender 3 machines. Apples and bananas.
And a fast experience has been Voron with Klipper ... long before Bambu Lab was born.
No wonder why Bambu copied so much of these projects and companies. But without the Voron project, Klipper, PrusaSlicer and even machines like the Ender 2 (Pro) or Prusa Mini ... there would have never been a Bambu Lab, because they would have chosen another field as they described in interviews.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 bbl is the crapple of 3d printing world, taking the best of others and put them into a new shiny package and call it innovation
I started with a creality printer, and switched to resin putting my bed slinger in storage. Got the Bambu x1c, and now I design and print for both resin and fdm. Love the Bambu printers for the ease of use and detail. Not sure if I would veer away from Bambu at this point.
Awesome! I feel like your experience is very common recently, people are finding Bambu and loving it. Also, I love that you are doing both resin and FDM!!!
I had 3 ender 5 pros before I got my x1c. My very first printer couldn't even complete a print without having to take it apart and look at what the community had come up with to make it functional. My bambu didn't need any research to have success. Bumbu is clearly a great option. However my bambu cost more than I spent on all 3 of the enders so they have their place.
-- The choice is very simple: if you want printer that works great, then Bambu is the way to go, and if you into faulty electronics, and warranty with good "lip service" - Creality is it!
Everything has changed so fast in the past two years! Hoping it only gets better!
@@LoyalMoses -- I do too, hopping for better...
Thank you for the great comparison! I have the A1 on its way to me now, I can't wait to get started making ALL the things, especially tools and gadgets to compliment my woodworking hobby.
Thank you!!!
I'm so jealous!! I've spent a week trying to print that...
Oh! Is something failing??
the V3 is super loud, I place it in a different room because it drives me crazy, print great tho, works flawlessly with orca slicer
I just don’t like the noise from the electronics enclosure fan.
I’ll just chime in here and add my experience with the A1. I had one for about 6 months. Overall I’d say for a bed slinger it was the easiest to assemble and get printing straight out of the box. Print quality was as good as my fleet of X1c, P1P, P1S, and various Rat rig printers, when it was successful. The multi color option works almost as good as the core xy Bambu printers and auto spool change when you run out worked as intended. Also I did like that you virtually could use any spool with the AMS lite though some spools required an insert to properly fit on a spool holder that is easily printed. The quick change modules work very good, and is a very nice feature.
With all that said the A1 is no longer a part of my print farm. I had multiple issues with mine knocking prints off the build plate, which in my opinion is the major downfall of any bedslinger. The failure rate on the A1 was abysmal at nearly 50%. Maybe it was the one I had but I tried adjusting x hop, switching from Bambu studio to Orca slicer, glue stick on the bed, to no avail. It was hard having this machine, the only bed slinger in my shop, in with multiple core xy printers. Had the failure rate not been so bad I’d likely still have it in my shop, but instead it only reinforced my opinion that for me I should stick with core xy printers.
And finally I want to touch on some of the comments about “security” with Bambu. The comments always seem to creep into nearly every video about Bambu. First I have to ask what exactly is it you are printing that your that worried someone at Bambu is going to steal, and in regards to camera privacy, the A1 has a cover, and it’s not difficult to place an item to block outside view of the printer. You can even use the printer in lab only mode or not connect it to WiFi at all and use the SD card if your that worried about “security”. Also if someone wants to copy your secret files so bad it’s not that hard to simply copy the design. I’d worry more about your cell phone, computer, tablet and alexia equipped devices prying into your privacy then a 3D printer.
Thanks for sharing!
So it that's $350 of my hard earned cash you're holding there...could I have it back please?
I didn’t think you’d mind! 😆
@@LoyalMoses I saw the guilt in your eyes when you pocketed it in the end. All right, good content, so I'll allow it, this time. Funny enough, I just spent around $350 on an Infimech TX, and not regretting it in the slightest, a seriously underrepresented printer on youtube. Hard to find something to compare it to, maybe Kingroon KLP1, but I think it's a way better deal.
Haha! Thanks! I’ll have to see if they’ll send me one to look at, I’ve heard great things about them! Congrats!!! And thank you for the kind words!
Came for a 3D-printer caparison and end up seeing this , it really cracks me up
I always know it's going to be a great day when I wake up to a LM video. Another great one!
Awww thank you! This was a fun one, and kind of surprising, that little Ender 3 V3 is kinda crazy good to keep up with the A1.
Thank you for this video I have the Bambu lab A1 combo and I am happy with it after watching this video, I feel that I chose the right choice.
AWESOME! It is a GREAT machine, one of my favorites!
Your channel is super underrated. You will blow up. Love the editing and quality of your vids. Keep it up!
I appreciate that! Thank you so much!
Bambu A1 all day long for me I have 10 bambu labs now not all A1 but I have a couple and I also have a couple of k1 Max's but the bambu labs print the best quality and with least fails and clogs etc
Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
The print quality looked smooth. I also like the model your printed. Enjoyed the video and of course the Daft Punk music. Keep 'em coming!
The music was fun! And these machines are just getting so dang good. Thank you Jedi SPIDEY! 🕸️
@@LoyalMoses Oh BTW Spidey > Batman :)
I deserve that! 😅
@@LoyalMosesdo you have to pay to use daft punk music in your video?
Wow it would be a hard decision. Both are excellent. I think I would lean toward the Bambu A1 since it can be upgraded to the AMS Lite., snice the Creality Ender 3V3 does not have some type of AMS. Excellent review and it should clear up any question anyone has. Loved the review LM.
I feel like a lot of people are leaning the same way when it comes to value. And, thank you!!!
I'd love to see you compare Bambu Lab A1 and elegoo neptune 4
Oh, I have a Neptune 4 sitting right next to me in the studio!
CP5 took my K1 Max to a new level. And the supports are better than any other machine ive seen! Also, love RJ designs models on Makerworld. Great video Magnum LM!
Magnum LM! LOL! Thank you and that is awesome to hear! 🔥
yes same with my k1 cp5 is at the next lvl its all about the slicer at the end and hardwear comes second
We need a huge advancement in software! I agree!
What's cp5?
@@teriyakipuppy creality print 5.0
Just ordered the A1
Fantastic choice! You will freaking LOVE IT!
I just ordered one too ! Coming from ender 3 v2
@@MrSpeedyOTC I haven’t stopped printing since I’ve gotten mine in. 5 days ago
I am still using ender 3 since 2021. Mod with direct extruder. Still works amazing.
That’s fantastic!!!
I just took a crowbar too mine. Too much down time and not enough productivity, then again it was almost 8 years old.
You better give that money back to the boss - Mrs. LM!
Haha!
I thought the music at the start sounded familiar. Then the lyrics started and I knew why. Lol. Nice choice
Thanks! 🔥
@@LoyalMoses No problem. And if I could suggest a song for the future (if you use Daft Punk again), I'd go with either Da Funk, Aerodynamic, Short Circuit, or Voyager, depending on the vibe you want to go for
YES!!! 🔥🔥🔥
May I also suggest Next Levels by King Geedorah and Kody Blu 31 by JID?
Of course!
I’d have to go with the A1 on this one, it’s bigger, able to do multi color, has a camera (I know it’s not a very good one but I like to check on my prints), the extra sensors, the Bambu slicer, and the handy app plus the reliability of the Bambu printers, they just work
Awesome! Thank you! I think a lot of people feel the same way!
Planning to buy A1 because it has AMS (option) and quick swap nozzle (no idea if Creality has one too), those are important features for me personally.
Awesome. Yes, they both have a quick swap nozzle, bambu is the easiest.
Great video! I love the editing and how concise the content is and the detailed comparison as well. I've gotten into 3D printing with an Ender 3 V3 SE and it's been great, looking for an upgrade but I think I might stick with Creality. The Bambu's dual filament feature drives me away actually. I've seen videos on the A1 and it's just simply too wasteful, the amount of "poo" it generates can sometimes even outweigh a finished product, I don't see a reason to purchase a printer with this feature until we have an easy, reliable and efficient way of Recyling PLA's. Keep the content coming, great stuff!
I'd love to see you compare some larger format printers like sovol sv08 and k1 max.
Heck yes! That is a GREAE idea!!!
Love those twisty models by RJ I have printed a few of them. If it was my money I would buy the A1 just for the user experience but the V3 isn't to far behind, Both are great machines and would be happy with either one.
Great designer! And yes, a lot of people feel the same way about the two machines!
i was given an ender 3 neo and has been amazing no issues, only reason to choose the A1 over the ender 3 v3 is multi color option IMO
Awesome! One of my favorite things to hear is how people got into 3D printing.
I'm looking for my first 3d printer and I ended up between these two models. I'm not sure, but Bambu A1 seems more user friendly to me... you didn't mention about canceling noise, does the Ender V3 have that? Great job, btw! Tks
Awesome choices! The A1 is far quieter, and no the V3 does not have that tech.
If budget is not the reason, the A1 is the better printing experience hands down, it’s the best experience that we have ever had in 3D printing.
@LoyalMoses So, between the Bambu A1 and the Creatily K1 Max, is it a fair comparison? In Brazil, they have the same price.
Oh interesting. Same price. If you NEED the extra size, that would be the only reason to go with the Max.
Hey, so I would like to buy my first 3D printer, and I'd like to get a program and 3D printer that are easy to use. I liked your video, but I still don't know which one I should buy. I liked the Creality Cloud because there are many good 3D models. Can I just download them and will they work on the A1? But I've heard a lot of negative things about the printer, and I don't know whether to believe them or not. I would have to buy the bigger version of it, I think. Or do you think it's a waste? As an experienced person, could you give me some help, please?
If I had to choose, I would go with the Bambu Lab machines. Either the A1 or the A1 mini are incredible, the best 3D printing experience that exists.
Yeah go with the Bambu labs A1 for sure. Not even close. You can print good quality prints literally right out the box.
If you want something easy get the bambulab offerings
wrote: "But I've heard a lot of negative things about the printer, and I don't know whether to believe them or not."
-- You don't have to believe me, but I bought Ender 3, as a motivation to learn CAD and 3D printing, since back then A1 just come out and was more expensive. Almost a year later, Ender 3 was out of the box, and failed to perform Z-Offset test and create a map due to the faulty electronics, and for almost a month(3 weeks) all I get, is bouncing around their tech departments where they recommend firmware updates, as well as prove of checking for "straightness" and levelness of the printer frame, which was Ok, but that did not fix a problem, and every time they demand pictures and videos, that is about 10-15 minutes long, then demand another video and ect. with no solution in sight.
-- Besides design and build quality of A1 is far superior rail vs. round sliders, and in many other respects. I'm a wrong person to ask about Creality Cloud, but I think, if you have to print, you still have to download STL files, and then slicer converts those to G-code, but I'm not sure, since I got printer for creating my own parts, and wish I'd knew what I know right now about these two printers. I wish the choice would be so clear, to save yourself much frustrations.
i have both a1 and ender 3v3 core my ender has never had a fail
THIS IS AWESOME! Then you know exactly what I am talking about, they are so good, both of them!
For those with Micro Center near by the Ender 3 v3 is currently $279.00
Thank you for sharing! Is there a link, or just in store pricing?!
I came due to the topic. Stayed due to your great content. Subscribed due to the shirt. I look forward to many more videos.
How about comparing the kobra 3 vs a1 vs ender 3 v3
Oh heck yes! Great idea!
I bought an A1 and used it until the recall and then got the X1C. I miss some of the features still from the A1 and it's an amazing printer for the money.
It really is! And the pricing is incredible on it. I'll bet you are loving that X1C though!
@@LoyalMoses I love the X1C but miss the easy nozzle changes and the tunes you could make the A1 play.
I bought the Bambu Lab A1 when it came out. I have five other printers. In this video, I choose the Bambu Lab A1.
Awesome! Nice choice!
Finished first few prints on my brand new A1. Coming from wornout, borrowed Ender 3v2 it's like changing Fiat for Ferrari :)
An amazing difference in experience isn’t it? Super stoked for you and congrats on picking one up! 🔥
I think this was a great comparison video! The music you chose was pretty good too!
Thank you!!!
Enjoyed the video. Hmmm. Which would i pick. If i did not know anything about either brand and you gave me this choice i would have a very difficult decision I think even if i could put hands on both feeling the build quality. All that being said and knowing what i know right now i would without a doubt go with the Bambu A1! That is not really a dig at Creality as i own a Creality KE and I really like it. The Bambu A1 is a more polished printer with much more under the hood than people might realize. Even with that statement above, if you put both prints in front of me and asked me which printer printed which part, I don't think it would be a clear cut choice. As far as slicer goes, comparing Bambu and Creality Print, i choose Bambu! I'm sorry i do not like the new Creality Print slicer. I know its a personal choice and not a bad attempt as making their own "cut" of other slicers but I am sure why some vendors are choosing this option. Orca is so good and already does everything you could want it to do. Why not create a "tuned" profile for your printers and release that for the popular slicers that are available. (ie Cura, Orca, Prusa...)? Thanks for the comparison video Loyal.
You basically echo how I feel. The A1 is more polished for sure, has more features and the user experience is unmatched. I wish we got less custom slicers and got better profiles, would just be better for us, along with more filament profiles!
Thanks for this!
Excellent video. I have to print one of those models, they are pretty cool.
Thanks Anthony! They are pretty cool. I need to print more of them with some other filament combinations!
I know Creality has been in the game much longer, but I think I'd rather have the Bambu Lab A1. Also, that blue filament is amazing. I would love to know what the color and maker is.
On the downside, I have to say, that music you chose for the montage...not my favorite. But I'm just one random dude on the Internet. What do I matter?
Very true! They are both Polymaker blue, one is a metallic and the other is a PolySonic blue.
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What?! You are the ONLY person to not like Daft Punk and you 3D print! What?! 😃
@@LoyalMoses you do you, but it ain't my jam. It was way too repetitive. I'm much more of a pop/rock and roll from the 80s guy. 90s music is okay, I suppose.
Neat file, where can it be had?
I think people are super happy to get the Ender 3 V3 for possible upgrade with Klipper. The Bambu A1 for a slight size upgrade and for people that just don't care to mod.
I think either way the owner that is a novice or vetraine will be happy with both printers due to the quality of the prints they can produce.
1000%! I can’t believe we get this quality now as just normal 3D printing.
The A1's hotend and nozzle will still be available from Bambu in X years. Creality has the habit of changing parts like that with every iteration of their printers and then after a couple of years you can no longer get the replacement parts you need for your printer and are forced to buy a new one. So, just for the professional after-market supplies I'd go with the Bambu.
This is interesting, because the number one complaint from the anti-Bambu crowd is that Bambu will suddenly stop making aftermarket parts, which of course is nonsense. Creality by far has the largest number of aftermarket parts for their printers, with entire companies existing to provide upgrades and mods for them.
Further, for the most part, especially with a quickly moving technology, keeping a 4 or 5 year old or more printer around doesn't make sense - the tech is advancing so fast, it is wiser to buy a newer machine. Of course, there are reasons someone may not want to or be able to buy new, and if someone wants to keep an old printer around, there are unlimited aftermarket upgrades and modifications, so nothing is really getting in the way with either of the machines.
Love your vids and streams!
Thank you! Very kind!
Bambu and AMS for me when it first came out. I had Enders and one Kobra before that and I am very happy with the switch, I still have the Kobra and will use it this fall when I make my Toys for Tots production run in conjunction with IC3D
Awesome! That AMS is a total game changer for the industry. Thanks for sharing and for printing toys!
All these new printers with all the newest sensors and high speeds, and then there's my original ender 3
Same, still rocking the original ender 3
If it’s still cranking out prints that’s awesome!
Awesome!!!
I see your Ender 3, and I up it with my OG Tevo Tarantula Kit. Still printing after 7 years, it's down for maintainance right now as I'm switching from my Bowden e3D V6 setup to a Hemera XS with a Revo hotend.
On the software side, Prusa slicer on my PC with a 2 years out-of-date version of Octoprint and Klipper as a firmware allow me to do the same "Print over Wifi" things that the Bambu does, I've been operating my printer like that for years now.
@mastah39 as long as it gets the job done. I plan on running klipper on my ender as wall, as soon as I get the cables. I also tried prusa slicer once but it broke my brain, I think I'll stick to cura for now, perhaps I'll look into orca slicer in the future
I was going to get the 3v3 but instead went with the 3v3 plus. Its fantastic i love it
OH! I want to try that one!
A good comparison would be the A1 to the likes of Ankermake. Or the Neptune line to some creality or voxel lab
So I bought a K1 Max about a year ago, and after tinkering with it for a while to try to fix its foibles, it got a clog and leaked everywhere, making a SUPER mess and I never got around to fixing it because I got sick for a while. I just got a FlowTech hot end replacement and I'm planning to tear apart the hot end to fix it, and I'm just wondering how you feel about this new generation of slingers compared to the K1-series? It's obvious the E3 V3 has pulled a LOT of design cues and experience from the K1 family, so I have to wonder how you feel these are compared to the K1.
So I chose the Ender 3 KE for my first printer and it was great for the first month and then started having several issues. I tried every recommendation that was given to me and it still fails every print. The biggest problems are the hot end clogging up or the print being knocked loose by the head. I’ve changed nozzles several times and I’ve only used Creality hyper pla filament. I ran the calibration before every print and the numbers change every time. I’ve talked to a lot of people and it seems I’m not alone with the KE printer having problems after about a month of use. I’m considering buying the A1 now.
The KE is a great machine, you shouldn't be having issues like this at all. I would guess that there is just something simple that is the cause of the trouble. The A1 is an amazing machine for sure, will produce better results, but that KE like I said is a really good machine too. Maybe jump into our discord and ask, we could help you out.
So what is best for begginers like me?
I would highly recommend the Bambu A1, it is the best experience in 3D printing that has ever existed.
Exellect choice of music friend
Thanks!!! 💜🔥
Thanks the Vid. It would have been great to see the A1 print ABS (mentioned in your vid) as Bambu do not recommend it. Cheers
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Many thanks for the simple but great video!...May I ask did you simply scale the Vortex Thread Illusion - Version 3 - Octagonal in the Slicer? and still have great fit and finish?
You are so welcome! Yes, all I did was scale it to 200% and it printed and fit perfectly well!
I think you mean, "This video was sponsored by YOU."
No, it was sponsored by YOU!
I put an order for a A1 today, I know nothing about 3D printing. Le see how it goes :D
Fantastic! Congratulations, I know you will LOVE IT!
Hi. I can get the Flashforge Adventurer 5M and the Ender 3 v3 at the same price, which one should I get? (where I live bambu printers cost a lot more so this is not an option for now) thank you very much!
I haven’t used the Flashforge, so I can’t answer that - but the V3 is a really great machine, print quality close to Bambu!
@@LoyalMoses Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.
Did I miss the speed comparison?
Watch it again!
Thank you for the great comparison. I gonna order the A1 combo. I like the multi color function and if you have 2 of the same he continues if one runs out.
Awesome! Great choice and yes, the filament switching is just awesome.
I just got an ender v3 in a combo with falcon 2 pro 40w laser but if I had to choose, would be the Bambi lab for the 4 colors capability
Awesome! All of those are great!
I'm shopping for my very first printer, Looking for a machine to use more casually on diy projects (nerf parts, switch housings, mounting brackets, organizers etc.) so ease of use is a higher priority. I just need a click and go type system. The A1 is listed at $339 and the V3 3D is on sale for $299. Is the A1's user friendliness worth the extra $40 or os $299 something to jump on?
Yes, the A1 would be the one for you to go with for sure. The user experience is the best the industry has ever seen, and you will have the option of multi-color if you want it later down the road.
@@LoyalMoses thank you for your help! I just ordered the A1 + AMS lite and four rolls of filament so I should be a diy print pro in no time 🫶
What?! That is so awesome! Congrats! You will LOVE IT!!!!
No - the caveat is that if you run into trouble their tech support is the worst on the planet.
What type of issues have you had with your A1? And I can say I spent $600+ on their products to realize the ams lite top mount screw pack was accidentally deleted due to my back and forth with filament choices I didn't understand.. and I submit a ticket requesting the $1.99 screws be added to my order.. to be told I needed to cancel and reorder my filament? Which was never a separate order so.. the feedback was misguided and definitely not human conscious or empathetic.. but what business model is? 😅 @@almag6872
i prefere the bambu lab i have a ender 3 v3 KE and have nothing but problems. then got a neptune 4 pro and had the same problems. bed leveling, z-offset and bed adhesion issues with every print. i did get some good prints but they were very few and far in between. got a bambu lab a1 mini and had just about every print i've done with it come out perfect and is perfect for beginner's. but great video
Oh. Sorry to hear about the problems you had, but also happy that you found a machine that is working great for you!
I bought a Ender 3 v3 in December and I was really looking forward to the printer as I am making 1/10 scale (printed) RC models. The auto level and speed was the main reason I thought this would be a great replacement for my old Ender 3 v2.
Sadly this printer jams quite a lot (printing PETG) and when it does you can not easy clear it either, you have to take apart the whole print head. I have tried replacing hot end for a new Creality one but that also did not solve the problem. note I print on the same speeds as the old ender 3 so it was not a speed issue
the Ender 3 S1 Pro I have does exactly the same prints with no issues at all, so did the old Ender 3 V2. If those printers have a jam (happens a LOT less) its fixed in 10 sec with nothing you have to take appart.
Sadly I would never buy this printer (or any printer with the same printer head) again as it has cost me a lot of time effort and frustration to try to get it to work. Looks like I have to cut my loss and look for a new reliable printer. (Most likely the A1)
Oh, I’m so sorry to hear that!
I would choose the Ender 3 V3 ... if not the cheaper KE/ SE model over the Bambu Lab, although I know the Bambu seems to be a good deal.
As I understand Bambu Lab is undercutting the market with those cheap Chinese production costs and they copied many of their features from other projects ... but do not give something back. Nearly every feature has been invented from someone else. And not giving back (like an open source AMS system) is slowing innovation.
Creality tried similar tactics but has done a good deal for the 3d printing community. Because of all those Ender 3s many people became makers. Some of their designs were even open source and an "inspiration" for others (Ender 2 inspired Prusa Mini and Bambu A1 Mini).
I hope they improve further (like with their app which has gotten so much better!).
But when a European company (Prusa) has nothing to offer in that price range ... I would choose Creality. Their Ender 3 V3, K1c and K2 offerings do not have to hide and have come a long, long way from the OG Ender 2 and 3.
Your choice of printer is great, those are nice machines, and I highly recommend them all the time for a multitude of reasons -- your other statements are absolutely what is wrong with a lot of the 3D printing community today. Simple nonsense. It reminds me of a bunch of people who bought into a team, and now their team is losing and they can't cope.
Creality has brought an unbelievable amount of people into this industry over the years, and Bambu Lab has done the same. Bambu is bringing millions of people into our industry and has actually caused a massive shift in the quality and user experience of 3D printing, all for the better. Bambu is not building cheap machines, they are in-fact building extremely high-end machines at incredibly low prices, which is exactly what people want. If someone can find a reason why this is bad, their opinion is worthless.
This nonsensical hatred and bias needs to end, these are just 3D printers, and the emotional connection that people put into a device that sits on a desk and spits plastic is in my opinion, quite silly. These people need to go outside, and touch a little grass.
As for your "slowing innovation" comment... multi-color printing has been around for a decade, but why wasn't it popular? I'll tell you why, it was junk - it was open source, and it was worthless - we all used it, we all tried it, it was a terrible experience. It took a company that invested millions of dollars into R&D as well as manufacturing to bring multi-color 3D printing to the masses.
@@LoyalMoses You my friend, are an absolute ruthless objective critic. Exactly the type of person that should be doing review videos, and accepting machines as that, just machines, rather then having an emotional bias. You gained my subscription 🤙🏼
wrote: "I would choose the Ender 3 V3 ... if not the cheaper KE/ SE model over the Bambu Lab, although I know the Bambu seems to be a good deal.
As I understand Bambu Lab is undercutting the market with those cheap Chinese production costs and they copied many of their features from other projects ... but do not give something back."
-- Hey send me A1, if you don't want it, I'll send you my Ender 3, that is still new, as no filament been through, since it fails to do Z Offset test due to electronic problems, and Creality service was great at the beginning, they apologized and returned e-Mails with in 24 hours, with reminders, of not to forget to check "junk mail" folder, then they start to apologize for late responses, because I was transferred between departments, then weekend... almost a month later printer still don't work. I can't remember the time, when product did not work right out of the box, and warranty service was so bad, kinda reminds me late 1980s and early 1990s with PC(that is "personal computers" for the iPhone users out there(including me)...)... "good times"!
Love this video❤ please compare anycubic kobra 3 combo vs A1
Just confirmed the Kobra 3 Combo will be here within the next few days!
I would buy the A1, besides never having 1 issue minus the recall cough cough lol The customer service has been amazing and so has the machine. My k1 max was good out of the box but I've always had issues with the enders and customer service has always been a pain and replacement parts always took forever. Maybe I just am unlucky with creality 😂 so my money's on Bamboo labs. Great video by the way
Awesome! I think that service and support has always been a problem for some of these companies, Creality especially over the years. Recently, Creality has been focused on improving support and I hope it continues, because these machines are getting so much nicer.
A lot of people are leaning towards the A1.
@LoyalMoses well with people like yourself and others not being biased is helping a lot of these companies improve and stay accountable.
I sure hope so! Thank you!
You need to compare the Anycubic Kobra 3 if you haven't!
Heck yes! I don’t have it yet, but that would be a great one!
hope i don't regret the purchase of the A1, cfs is coming to the 3v3
Oh I have high confidence you won’t regret it! It’s an INCREDIBLE machine!
Also, I hope it does come to the V3!
@@LoyalMoses on the creality store page of the v3 is in red front a text about cfs, i guess it is comming, to the v3
Thank you, I had seen that, but until there is more information and we know how they are going to do it, I didn’t want to include it just yet! I sure hope they do.
Great comparison video! Clean up close shots of the prints and very well laid out information on both of these machines. I lean towards the bambu but not by much. Just curious, what mic do you use? Me and my wife do 3DP content as well and took a while to work out the audio! Your audio is great!
Thanks! Audio can be tough for sure. I use a RODE Wireless GO II for my lav mics.
The Bambu Lab is just not as easy to buy everywhere as the Creality. They don't even have a reseller where I live, and the closest one is about double that price before shipping. I picked up the Ender-3 V3 and it is crazy how good it is. Maybe because I'm coming from an Ender-3 Pro that printed great, but was always needing to be messed with, especially with the first layer.
Exactly! A lot of people forget that there are a lot of places in the world where the only printers available are Creality machines. They have been around a long time and have a large network.
Have you actually tried ABS/ASA on the BambuLab? I wasn't aware one could even select ABS or ASA on the printer's Filament selection menus. Yes, in theory, it should work as well as any other open frame printer but they seem to have blocked it on the printer and slicer. (My IRL experiences is limited to the A1 mini and assumptions have been made.) P.S: How did you get a license to use that music?
ABSolutely! 😆
wiki.bambulab.com/en/a1/manual/faq#
@@LoyalMoses Thx, I want to try printing some RC parts in ABS. The wiki only recommends low fill density settings on the A1 which will be less robust. How does this compare to the Ender in this video ?
Okay, I. Am abit late to this party and I watched this from start to finish. Which printer would you recommend to me, someone who is eyeing both printers and is on the fence about it because both pros to them.
Bambu Lab A1 is the better machine if I had to choose because of the potential for multi-color!
@@LoyalMoses funny enough. My fiancée, not knowing a lick of 3D printing, picked that one because of the fact it can do multi colored printing.
I have an Ender 3 V3 SE, and I think that the Bambu Lab A1 might be better because it is less maintenance and overall just gives more features for the money it costs.
That is a really great machine!
The ams four color printing alone is worth it, I bought the bambu
Absolutely and congrats!!!
I am kind of glad that I have waited till now to try 3D printing! Now I can print my cat a fat fake mouse
haha! Do it!
I currently have 2 anycubic vypers that I wud love to upgrade some how ?? Not many options to up grade it tho..
I have been looking very hard at the Bambu lab a1 .. for more consistent prints ..
The prices on these new printers are getting so low that buying a new printer is easier. That A1 is a great machine.
@@LoyalMoses I wud love to have a A1 but wife says I have to many already .. I will have to sell one to get a Bambu A1 .. I love the absolute quality of that machine .
Idk im still super happy with my ender 3 and i want max strength with my prints so im already printing at a fraction of my printers capabilities. That being said its crazy how nice theses budget machines are becoming
I love seeing machines that people are happy with, that are producing awesome results!
How about ease of changing nozzles?
They both have a quick change nozzle system. The Bambu system is easier.
Love the comparisons. Also creality has came out and said that the CFS will work with the Ender 3 V3, not sure about the V3 SE or KE yet though. I think both are solid machines to start out with in 2024. I personally am not a fan of the look of the A1, it looks like a toy while the Ender looks very sleek and steamlined.
Thanks. Yes, Creality told us this about the CFS a long time ago, but until there is some actual movement on it or evidence that it is happening I didn’t want to include that in the video. I wouldn’t want people to buy it based on hope.
I have some really amazing print with the v3 plus
That is awesome to hear!!! I’d love to see some pics of the prints!!!
Creality k2 vs bambu 1x carbon
That would be awesome!
1 i like the video before i see it 2 the music is epic
Thank you! Very kind of you! 🔥🔥🔥
Personally, I don't want to print directly for my computer. I really like the independent OctoPrint setup I have for my Ender 3 S1 Pro.
Awesome. I actually have a weird thing for walking over and putting in a USB key. I like to store all my slices in folders. I’m weird!
you can print carbon with the creality as well because of the new unicorn nozzle you missed that i guess
Definitely!
Great opening song choice LM!
Thanks!!!
For ease of use for people new to 3d printing - A1 hands down !
Definitely!
Is it better to have a Printer Closed with Door ? Is it worth pying more ?
It really depends on the materials you want to print!
should i buy an a1 mini with ams or a1 no ams
If you've NEVER experience multi-color, go with the A1 mini w/ AMS! It is the most used printer in our house even though we have 100+ machines! You will love the experience!
I like daft punk as well, good taste!!
Heck yes! 🔥🔥🔥
For the amount of features and bigger build volume
Bambu lab A1 for sure
Should do a K2 max combo vs P1S combo next
Definitely! And that would be a great comparison!
how come you dont keep your filament in dry bags?
We have pretty low humidity up here on the mountain!
Creality Print is hot garbage compared to Bambu Studio. The slicer wars are over and Prusa won. If you have your printer on something other than Prusa Slicer, Bambu Studio or Orca Slicer, you should do something about that. I've been doing custom parts on Creality Print for the last few weeks and more often than not I wind up doing the work on Bambu Studio and then pulling it up in Creality to print on my K1 Max. The Max is a worthy printer (not Bambu-worthy but bigger), but if I ever take the time to figure out how to network print with it using Orca, I'll uninstall Creality Print in a heartbeat.
The fact that the A1 has AMS Lite puts these two printers in completely different classes. It's easy to minimize the impact of an AMS in a review or on paper, but if you have printers that have one and those those don't and you do a lot of printing, you quickly realize that printers without AMS are second class citizens, and that's even if you seldom do multi-color prints. Just the ability to stack four spools of the same material/color in the AMS and not having to worry about whether you have enough filament to complete the next 30-hour print job is priceless. Right now I'm on hour 29.5 of a 32.5 hour print, printing on the last few turns of a spool of yellow PETG, with another remnant spool in the AMS and a full spool behind that, and I don't have to watch it or stay up late so I can change the spool at just the right time. If I want to do my next job in Blue silk PLA, I just put the roll in the AMS and click print once I take the PETG off the bed.
If you're buying printers based on the hope that Creality may make their AMS work with their older printers, then you're Charlie Brown to Creality's Lucy. She's going to pull that football away and you're bonkers if you bet against it.
I won't go into overall user experience. Bambu has it nailed and Creality doesn't know it exists. Do I have faith the K2 will level the playing field? It's not possible if you're not playing on the same field. Creality needs to hire a team of talented engineers to just study and copy the Bambu experience. If they don't, some other company is going to get their first and offer a suite of Klipperized printers with a unified, positive user experience and give Bambu a run for their money and relegate Creality to an object lesson.
your 2nd para' re AMS , I did not know when I orderd my A1. When I found out an AMS can chain feed automaticaly, now AMS lite is on my 'next to get' list .
It has been a very diffrent experiance compaird to all of my other printers rite down to Bambu Studio.
Isn’t that cool! You can use up all your filament partials!
This is a huge comment! Wow! Thank you for sharing and typing all of that. Bambu has the experience nailed for sure, everyone is chasing it.
@@XerotoLabs I have two A1's with AMS Lite and one Mini without. The Mini is a good little printer but doesn't see nearly the action the other two do.
I like my Bambu machine much better than my Ender. But I do enjoy cloud slicing and printing 100% from my smart device.
I really want a bambu a1 mini but bambu doesn't sell em here. I tried asking people if they could send me one and I'll cover the cost and shipping but no luck .
Can you adjust the Z offset on every job if desired on these machines that have auto bed-leveling? I print with an Ender 3V2 updated with Jyers. I have a pause command in my start-up loop that allows me to check the Z height and tweak it to perfection on every job. Would I lose this capability with these two machines?
You won’t need to adjust z-offset any longer. Bambu machines among a few others stopped doing that more than 2 years ago with millions of successful prints with perfect first layers as evidence.
A lot were skeptical, many not wanting to give that up, but they ultimately proved that letting the machines bed level and set z automatically is the way to go.
Thanks. Yes, I am among the skeptical.
It feels like you just made a video to tell us "yeah, they are both good and pretty much the same, get either"
Except for multi-color printing, the build volume, the camera, and the toolhead sensors… but, if that’s your take away, cool!
I was seriously impressed by Bambu Labs. I bought a X1C. Liked it so much I bought another for my wife 3 weeks later. Ordered 6 AMS during their anniversary sale to max out both our printers. Waited for them to be back in stock to ship. Bambu shipped the 6 in 3 different packages. One got lost and it has been an absolute nightmare getting them to even respond to my support ticket. For a company that makes an amazing printer, they sure have terrible customer service and it’s safe to say, I won’t be buying my next printer thru them. I’ve spent close to 5 K all together in the span of a couple months and they can’t even respond to a simple file a claim with UPS and ship me the two AMS that you owe me. They lost me as a customer.
Their support can be a bit slow but for sure they will get back to you - they are growing super fast and I wish the growing pains weren't as bad as they are.