There’s a 2025 Platinum listed in my area with a $6k markup, because of horrible and unnecessary dealer installed “features.” Like no, I seriously don’t need you disabling the stock car alarm to install a different one with Bluetooth!
I had a 2025 Platinum on order but ended up getting a 2024 for the following reasons: - Got $2.5k off MSRP on the 2024. With $3k price increase for the 2025, final difference between 2024 and 2025 ended up close to $6k. - Fridge and vacuum eats up a ton of space between second row seats and its not an option which i could skip on the 2025 Platinum trim.
Its crazy, we got ours 4 years ago already! Love it Also: for the Carplay thing, I can't see where you had the wire, but the only plug that works for it is up by the wireless charger!
Not true, I ordered in July and mine is being build phase and should be here in 2 weeks. Btw it's a 2025 XSE instead of the 2024 which I placed in July.
I bought a 2024 XLE through a dealer that pledged no markup - but I had to wait 10 months from the time I ordered to actually get it (I’m also still waiting for my second key to arrive-apparently due to the chip shortage still) I live in NC, bought the van in NC which means it came through “Southeast Toyota Distributors” which automatically adds certain features to the car whether you want them or not-nothing you can do about it. Also, when you order a new car from Toyota, you’re not ordering a specific vehicle, you’re specify your preferences and when the distributor has the vehicle you want and you’re next in line to get a car, THEN you will get the car you wanted. All this to say, we’ve had the van since late June and LOVE IT. Hope to keep it for 15+ years.
I tried getting a deal on the 2024 one afternoon, and the manager blew me off. He didn’t even make a counteroffer. Later that afternoon, it sold to someone else. The demand is real, and there’s no wiggle room on price.
Got a 2025 XLE allocated on its way… 4-6 weeks, The XLE comes with gray seat, not the black bottom and sides. Spare tire was a must option , 8 passenger. Nice to agree , the 2025 is worth it/
@@edwardgh57 I had no idea they had those and I would love one of those ‘cause I have three girls under 7. Thanks for letting me know. I have been researching since last night when I saw this video and realized XLEs are 8-seaters.
Oooh! The rare Wednesday Muzio Family upload! I always did have respect for the Sienna, it's actually pretty luxurious for it's class. And the new 2025 options is SWEET!!!!
Funny story. A PBS Newshour producer reached out a few years ago because they'd seen a video I made flying over the port of LA during the pandemic, when it was fully of ships that couldn't offload. I wound up flying one of their videographers in my chopper over the port for a story. My only request for donating the flight? A classic PBS tote bag. Amazingly, the producer couldn't get one but she did have a PBS Newshour water bottle. I begrudgingly accepted it. :)
THE PRETTY RED CLOR IS KILLER, THEY NEED TO PUT A TURBO ON IT AND THEN IT WILL BE SPOT ON! THESE ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AHOLD OF THOUGH. XSE IN SO CA, WITH TAX AND LICE IS OVER 53k
My 2007 version still runs great, and am very hesitant to upgrade to this generation. Except the MPG, I dislike almost every change in it, inside and out. Look at the build quality of third row seat.
Don't upgrade, i don't know what happened, but toyota quality around 2010 fell off a cliff.. my 01 Symphony Edition sienna was like a lexus minivan, quiet, beautifully made, rock solid reliable and went 345k miles before the steering rack seal failed. Cost to repair was 2500.00 i should had fixed it. I traded it on a new 2012 Platinum awd and it was junk in comparison, a sea of hard plastic, uncomfortable seats, rattles, and creaks.. it went from a lexus to an 80's hyundai.. The new ones are worse.. if your 07 is a loaded up one and rust free i would replace what breaks and keep it.. I think that generation was the best sienna they ever made.
How can you say "made 5 grand" when you simply traded it in? We all know that the "trade in amount" is meaningless - what they are REALLY giving you for the trade in is much less.
@@nwsvndr I paid 49000 for the Sienna in October 2022. They gave me 55000 for it on a trade for 2024 4 runner. I wrote a check for 5000 and got the 60000$ 4 runner. This saved me the tax trading it in at dealership.
Cheap as in fit and finish? Or drivability cheap? I’m looking to buy a ‘23+ sienna but just can’t seem to find the positives in them, only thing that is intriguing me is the gas mileage compared to my 2007 Sienna.
Question on the interior safety feature where it notify or honk the horn when you leave someone or animal in the car. Many times, I'd leave my wife/kids in the car briefly at night or in cool weather so I can go to the store to pick up something. Or when she doesn't want to tag along in hardware store. Can I or an adult inside the car turn that feature off in that situation or there's no way of turning it off?
I had no idea a mini van got that kind of MPG 🤔...I lived 'van life' for about 3 years in a Ford Econoline. I think my mileage was 18-20 mpg. But on long road trips I could pull over and get in bed 😂..and yeah I lived in a van down by the river 🤨
You'll have to wait until at least 2027. I want a Prime with safety sense 3 or 4. (you can remove the seats, it's just a bit more difficult - google it. You need a little electronic device to fool the van into thinking the seats are there. It's being done "a lot.")
@@Ab_Wolf Just study Toyota's history of updates for the Sienna, and even across models, and consider that the current generation is selling well - as much as you and I might complain, it ain't broke. And "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
@@brianb7844 How l miss the old days of Town and Country. Best Van I have ever driven. I can't stand the "bridge console" of the new Pacifica and Carnival.
The sienna makes you drink coffee to live with it Whereas the carnival wakes you up very quickly once you live with it because you’ll always be enjoying your experience in the Kia vs the Toyota
Toyota needs to reign in its dealers. The Sienna is one of serveral models that still seem to carry a markup.
Only cause you don't know where to buy one that's not marked up. Lol
@@alphaomega750 How do we find one without a markup?
@@xman2k2 You use resellers who sell on a national basis and deliver like lease companion or car edge or others. That’s how
There’s a 2025 Platinum listed in my area with a $6k markup, because of horrible and unnecessary dealer installed “features.”
Like no, I seriously don’t need you disabling the stock car alarm to install a different one with Bluetooth!
I saw able to pay under MSRP from a rural dealer with no mandatory options and zero wait. Some of the urban dealers were $6k more.
I had a 2025 Platinum on order but ended up getting a 2024 for the following reasons:
- Got $2.5k off MSRP on the 2024. With $3k price increase for the 2025, final difference between 2024 and 2025 ended up close to $6k.
- Fridge and vacuum eats up a ton of space between second row seats and its not an option which i could skip on the 2025 Platinum trim.
Fridge and vacuum is total waste imo. Can’t find any 2024 Sienna in MN here which sucks.
Its crazy, we got ours 4 years ago already! Love it
Also: for the Carplay thing, I can't see where you had the wire, but the only plug that works for it is up by the wireless charger!
Always great to get a video from you guys on a Tuesday!
Oops, Wednesday. It’s been a long week.
Thanks for the video!!
the demand is crazy for mini vans, some countries the Sienna wait is 2.5 years, mini vans are cool, perfect for families
Not true, I ordered in July and mine is being build phase and should be here in 2 weeks. Btw it's a 2025 XSE instead of the 2024 which I placed in July.
@@mr2cqql are you in the states, in Canada certain location it is 2.5 years.
I bought a 2024 XLE through a dealer that pledged no markup - but I had to wait 10 months from the time I ordered to actually get it (I’m also still waiting for my second key to arrive-apparently due to the chip shortage still) I live in NC, bought the van in NC which means it came through “Southeast Toyota Distributors” which automatically adds certain features to the car whether you want them or not-nothing you can do about it. Also, when you order a new car from Toyota, you’re not ordering a specific vehicle, you’re specify your preferences and when the distributor has the vehicle you want and you’re next in line to get a car, THEN you will get the car you wanted.
All this to say, we’ve had the van since late June and LOVE IT. Hope to keep it for 15+ years.
I'm a fan of your wonderful channel. I am from Iraq 🇮🇶
I tried getting a deal on the 2024 one afternoon, and the manager blew me off. He didn’t even make a counteroffer. Later that afternoon, it sold to someone else. The demand is real, and there’s no wiggle room on price.
I see why Americans love their mini vans. I am in love
All those people buying full size SUVs, this is the vehicle that you actually need
I will never get the obsession with this that people have. Just let people buy what they want?
@@bradyb9929
Ever seen the movie "Idiocracy" ?
Yeah, try to actually understand that movie and you will get it.
@@bradyb9929Their kids are door dinging my car with their big SUV doors and you can't say anything because it's a kid.
Please buy minivans people!
I tow alot with my suv; way more than 3500lbs thats the only down fall to all vans.
Imma just get a slightly used model x
You should do this for the Odyssey too!!
Got a 2025 XLE allocated on its way… 4-6 weeks, The XLE comes with gray seat, not the black bottom and sides. Spare tire was a must option , 8 passenger. Nice to agree , the 2025 is worth it/
For real? A Sienna with 8-passenger seating?
@@josephikogho3986 yup
@@edwardgh57 I had no idea they had those and I would love one of those ‘cause I have three girls under 7.
Thanks for letting me know. I have been researching since last night when I saw this video and realized XLEs are 8-seaters.
Oooh! The rare Wednesday Muzio Family upload! I always did have respect for the Sienna, it's actually pretty luxurious for it's class. And the new 2025 options is SWEET!!!!
Love the PBS Newshour 'shout out'!
Funny story. A PBS Newshour producer reached out a few years ago because they'd seen a video I made flying over the port of LA during the pandemic, when it was fully of ships that couldn't offload. I wound up flying one of their videographers in my chopper over the port for a story. My only request for donating the flight? A classic PBS tote bag. Amazingly, the producer couldn't get one but she did have a PBS Newshour water bottle. I begrudgingly accepted it. :)
THE PRETTY RED CLOR IS KILLER, THEY NEED TO PUT A TURBO ON IT AND THEN IT WILL BE SPOT ON!
THESE ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AHOLD OF THOUGH. XSE IN SO CA, WITH TAX AND LICE IS OVER 53k
Great video!😸😸
Better than highlander??
love you guys 😍
My 2007 version still runs great, and am very hesitant to upgrade to this generation. Except the MPG, I dislike almost every change in it, inside and out. Look at the build quality of third row seat.
Don't upgrade, i don't know what happened, but toyota quality around 2010 fell off a cliff.. my 01 Symphony Edition sienna was like a lexus minivan, quiet, beautifully made, rock solid reliable and went 345k miles before the steering rack seal failed. Cost to repair was 2500.00 i should had fixed it. I traded it on a new 2012 Platinum awd and it was junk in comparison, a sea of hard plastic, uncomfortable seats, rattles, and creaks.. it went from a lexus to an 80's hyundai.. The new ones are worse.. if your 07 is a loaded up one and rust free i would replace what breaks and keep it.. I think that generation was the best sienna they ever made.
Love this van. I think the body style will be 2021-2024 and mid cycle 2025-2028
Had a 2023 xse found it very cheap. Black rims peeled in first 4 months. Traded in for 2024 4 runner. Made 5000 grand on the Sienna.
How can you say "made 5 grand" when you simply traded it in? We all know that the "trade in amount" is meaningless - what they are REALLY giving you for the trade in is much less.
@@nwsvndr I paid 49000 for the Sienna in October 2022. They gave me 55000 for it on a trade for 2024 4 runner. I wrote a check for 5000 and got the 60000$ 4 runner. This saved me the tax trading it in at dealership.
@@bradhewitt6779 sounds like you did make out well on the Sienna, congrat's. Where did you purchase it, if you don't mind my asking?
Simcoe ontario.
Cheap as in fit and finish? Or drivability cheap? I’m looking to buy a ‘23+ sienna but just can’t seem to find the positives in them, only thing that is intriguing me is the gas mileage compared to my 2007 Sienna.
Better than KIA grand carnival?
I wish inventory will arrive in canada. It's a 2 year wait for them here in ontario
Question on the interior safety feature where it notify or honk the horn when you leave someone or animal in the car. Many times, I'd leave my wife/kids in the car briefly at night or in cool weather so I can go to the store to pick up something. Or when she doesn't want to tag along in hardware store. Can I or an adult inside the car turn that feature off in that situation or there's no way of turning it off?
FYI: 2025 EPA fuel economy is reduced to 34 mpg for the AWD.
I love that we normalize a 1500 dollar increase in price in an already ridiculously expensive minivan
Gotta pay the workers
Can you please review the kia carnival 2025?😊
Got 22 model as new and limited. Is nice
You cannot buy or get a 2024 or 2025 Sienna. I’ve been waiting for a year in Canada on a wait list.
why no evie review of the van???
I had no idea a mini van got that kind
of MPG 🤔...I lived 'van life' for about
3 years in a Ford Econoline. I think my
mileage was 18-20 mpg. But on long
road trips I could pull over and get
in bed 😂..and yeah I lived in a van
down by the river 🤨
When Toyota went hybrid for the Sienna, the MPG went wild. Pretty amazing.
Micah Drives on a Wednesday? This feels weird. I dunno what anything is anymore. What is up? What is down? 😂
Better than Honda Odyssey??
Yes, better than grand highlander and odyssey and carnival and Pacifica.
EVEN IF U ORDER 1 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR U WILL GET!
Wait, what? Why don’t we get to know what Evie thinks behind the wheel!?
A deal on a Sienna? Are you kidding me! It’s a complete fluke to see an unsold one on a lot.
Answer: No. 2025 Sienna still has Toyota Safety Sense 2.0 from 2018. Not 2.5 nor the current 3.0.
I'll wait for the 2026, hopefully they redesign the exterior and have removable 2nd row seats. I have 4 dogs, this would be a lot of space for them.
You'll have to wait until at least 2027. I want a Prime with safety sense 3 or 4. (you can remove the seats, it's just a bit more difficult - google it. You need a little electronic device to fool the van into thinking the seats are there. It's being done "a lot.")
@@nwsvndr why 2027? Plus the Sienna would work best, as with 3 adults and 4 dogs for road trips would work best.
@@Ab_Wolf Because there's not going to be redesign in 2026. (You wanted a redesign.)
@@nwsvndr how do you know know 2027 and not 2026?
@@Ab_Wolf Just study Toyota's history of updates for the Sienna, and even across models, and consider that the current generation is selling well - as much as you and I might complain, it ain't broke. And "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
It's underpowered compared to the competition.
can we get new car prices back down.
What if I leave something not alive back there? 🤔
Edit: Just tell her that Die Hard is the best Christmas movie ever made! 🤣
I didn't consider the Christmas angle. New family tradition!!
There's really no difference minus the screen. That's it. Everything else is just stupid
Stop calling this a minivan. It’s a luxury car with a very big trunk.
So only difference is the 2025 model has more gimmicks. Cool.
I miss when minivans had completely flat floors.
Aren’t there brands or models out there that still offer such a feature?
@@ALMX5DP Our Pacifica is close, as is the Carnival, but not like the old Caravans and Town and Country's.
@@brianb7844 How l miss the old days of Town and Country. Best Van I have ever driven. I can't stand the "bridge console" of the new Pacifica and Carnival.
The sienna makes you drink coffee to live with it
Whereas the carnival wakes you up very quickly once you live with it because you’ll always be enjoying your experience in the Kia vs the Toyota
Yeah because with the Kia, you'll be tense all the time, worring about something failing, or worrying about having to get gas.
Meh, you should wait for the redesign. And hope it gets a V6.
Not getting a V6, no way. Toyota won't do that. But if it gets the Prime version that's more HP, which is much better than getting the V6.
waited 3 months for a platinum. used the toyota inventory website. for extended warranty call midwest toyota. ask for the warranty manager.