Ancient Philosophical Clash: Celsus vs. Origen - The Original Skeptic vs. Apologist Debate

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
  • Welcome to our historical fiction series on the philosophical validity of Christianity! Set in the year 250, just two years after Origen's "Against Celsus" was released, we imagine a debate between Celsus and Origen at the very school founded by Justin Martyr in Rome. This is a work of historical fiction, aiming to reflect the arguments of both men faithfully as they appear in their books.
    In this video:
    Celsus' Opening Statement: Celsus stands before the audience as a defender of reason, arguing against the tenets of Christianity, which he views as a threat to the traditions and intellectual heritage of Greco-Roman civilization.
    Origen's Opening Statement: Origen responds by connecting Greek philosophy to Christian theology, asserting that Christianity fulfills and transcends the wisdom of the ancients through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
    The debate unfolds with Celsus challenging the historical accuracy and philosophical depth of Christianity, and Origen offering profound responses that bridge the gap between Greek philosophical ideals and Christian teachings.
    This debate serves as a fascinating exploration of early skepticism towards Christianity and showcases how the critiques of Celsus mirror those of modern skeptics. As Dr. John Lennox aptly put it, "The new atheism is an old atheism, except it's much more aggressive. The new atheism wants to destroy religion. That's a very different thing."
    Join us in this thought-provoking journey through history and philosophy. Stay tuned for Part 2, where Origen will cross-examine Celsus, and both will deliver their closing remarks.
    Thank you for watching! Please like, share your thoughts in the comments, and subscribe for more content exploring the rich intellectual history of Christianity.
    Reading List:
    Primary Sources
    Origen: Against Celsus
    Origen: On First Principles
    Celsus: The True Doctrine: A Discourse Against the Christians
    Secondary Sources
    Hubertus R. Drobner: The Fathers of the Church: A Comprehensive Introduction
    Margaret M. Mitchell and Frances M. Young (eds.): The Cambridge History of Christianity, Volume 1: Origins to Constantine
    Henry Chadwick: The Early Church
    Stephen Priest (ed.): Philosophy and Theological Discourse: From Locke to Wittgenstein
    Historical and Philosophical Context
    Reginald E. Allen: Greek Philosophy: Thales to Aristotle
    John M. Cooper (ed.): Plato: Complete Works
    Jonathan Barnes (ed.): Aristotle: Complete Works
    M. Andrew Holowchak: The Stoics: A Guide for the Perplexed
    Modern Analyses and Commentaries
    Peter W. Martens: Origen and Scripture: The Contours of the Exegetical Life
    E. Earle Ellis: The Making of the New Testament Documents
    N.T. Wright: The New Testament and the People of God
    James Hannam: God’s Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science

Комментарии • 20

  • @knutabbottfishermansfriend6550
    @knutabbottfishermansfriend6550 16 дней назад +3

    Great wisdom presented, but how I wish it could be presented without disturbing music. 😅 Knut/Norway

    • @SpeakeasyApologetics
      @SpeakeasyApologetics  8 дней назад +2

      Thank you so much for the comment. I will definitely keep that in mind going forward. Thank you!

  • @johnlogan198
    @johnlogan198 4 дня назад

    Wow I can’t wait to see the other videos. Great food for thought! Thank you for your efforts!

  • @chukwuebukamichaelherbert6721
    @chukwuebukamichaelherbert6721 2 дня назад

    I love this ❤
    Please do more of the early Church's encounters with heresies.

    • @SpeakeasyApologetics
      @SpeakeasyApologetics  День назад

      that is a great idea! I would love that. I find the early church to be fascinating. I seems to me that the scholarship form this period was unmatched and I believe directly influenced by God. Essentially all modern debate of Christianity was already addressed by Origen, Thomas Aquinas, Saint Augustine,Justin Martyr , Tertullian, etc. There seems to be extremely little ground that these scholars have not already addressed.

  • @susanladd3888
    @susanladd3888 17 дней назад +1

    Thanks for share this video. 🙏

  • @kaneshacopland9044
    @kaneshacopland9044 11 дней назад

    I learned many things that I did not know. Thanks for the share this.

  • @user-qo8wf1hx1s
    @user-qo8wf1hx1s 22 дня назад +1

    Fascinating debate between Celsus and Origen on Christianity's philosophical validity! Love the historical and intellectual depth. 😍

    • @SpeakeasyApologetics
      @SpeakeasyApologetics  21 день назад

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate your kind words. I put a lot of effort into researching for this video. What really stood out to me during my research is how intellectually rich the discourse was between early skeptics and early apologists. In fact, I found that Celsus' critiques were far more nuanced and sophisticated compared to many modern skeptics. It’s fascinating to see how deeply they engaged with philosophical and theological arguments back then.

  • @robvancamp2781
    @robvancamp2781 5 дней назад +1

    HEY!!! THINK YOU COULD TURN THE BACKGROUND MUSIC UP A FEW NOTCHES??? I can ALMOST hear the dialog.

    • @SpeakeasyApologetics
      @SpeakeasyApologetics  День назад

      I am extremely sorry for this. I will defiantly fix this in the future. Again I apologize.

  • @miriamrobinson3988
    @miriamrobinson3988 12 дней назад

    Thought-provoking and educational! Love this historical fiction series! 📖💡

  • @sarahjones4655
    @sarahjones4655 20 дней назад

    This debate is captivating! The philosophical arguments are on point. 💡🎥

  • @lilyscott9799
    @lilyscott9799 18 дней назад

    Really enjoyed the deep debate between Celsus and Origen on Christianity's philosophical validity! 🙏

  • @CristobalLeedy
    @CristobalLeedy 21 день назад

    A really good story 😍