I think the aspect of this film I am going to like the most, no surprise here is Yelena, she is not Nat, I am glad the director is not making Yelena desire to even be Nat.
Well, He Knows their around 8 different ''Thunderbolt'' Teams....In the Marvel Comic book's Over the Years..... I like His theory. But it's to safe....a Little Vanilla.... I have a Crazy theory , What if- the * at the End Means ...Someone like .. -Val Has completely different team . ''Thunderbolt's- Of vill*in's who set up (Everyone or are set to take their place) Say Example-Fixer ,Screaming Mimi , Moonstone and Younger new- Goliath. Just saying) And Val- Wanted to Send Her other (Old Assassins...The ones we seen before) to a Trap (To Take them out). To replace them with easier to control assets? The ''Thunderbolt's'' And the Ones we think are the ''Thunderbolt'' team are Just Brought together by accident when the Trap did not work? I mean in the One scene at the Party a young Lady next to Val looked a lot like the Character design of ''Song Bird'' ....Its a wild theory. I know. But if they did that. or something close...it would Make The MCU Fans Like the (Unliked Taskmaster/Ghost ie Misfits More Likable!
I think the asterisk is just what Adam pointed out, that the "Thunderbolts" name is just a front for their real name: Dark Avengers...or the Sentry's logo is actually the asterisk as stylized in the name? (and that's why they said we wouldn't find out what it is until we watch the movie)🤔
Hector I love when you help explain the comic lore to make a better foundation for someone like me who is loving the MCU’s but never read the comics, once.
@@lunatic5162 if people are interested enough in these characters and stories to watch movies and tv shows, they can and should make time to enjoy the source material and appreciate the art form that inspired the characters and stories they love so much.
Hector is very good at what he does. My comic reading focus was on Daredevil, so sometimes I get the smattering of Avengers comics I"ve read muddled up, and Hector's explanations are illuminating. But to echo Hectorminator, if you have the time and a few extra bucks, a subscription to Marvel Unlimited is worth the couple of dollars for the subscription. But it's easy to ger overwhelmed, so my recommendation is to do what I did and focus on one character or group.
Normies have unfortunately kind of become that recently which has been disappointing… they were one of my favorites. Of course they aren’t nearly as bad as other channels, but it’s just annoying to see
@@Byronic19134 I just watched a reaction video today where a guy did the "Critical Drinker"-lite reaction and 90% of the comments in his page disagreed with him.
That was my first thought too. The interior looks similar too. Given that the other Avengers base got wrecked, it would be pretty cool for the old one to start out as Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers base, only to have the new version of the Avengers to reclaim it.
My favorite MCU character has always been Bucky, so I just hope they do him justice. But I'm also just curious to see how well all of these characters work together.
Actually one of the best post-trailer discussions since, like... civil war? Not that others arent interesting. Just very intrigued with how all this could go!
I Love it when Hector breaks down what the comics did and lays out potential similarities between the film/show with the books. That Heroes Reforged outro song!! Sounds like something from the FIFA playlists. I love it!!!
if bucky can become that leader at then end of this and then sam gets an avengers group together and the meet back up in one of the avengers movies would be some good marvel stuff
Bucky is not a leader tho he’s more the OG mentor like we saw in FATWS so I can see him taking Ylana and Johnny Walker under his wing and we will see Ylana emerge as the leader as we already see in the trailer her taking command of the group when they meet up explaining to them they been set up. Plus Lawrence Pugh has the most on screen star power.
@@adreday10 I was thinking a cool scene would be Sam with his group meeting up with the Thunderbolts and asking how does he know he can trust them, and that’s when you see Bucky come out the back of somewhere putting on arm back on saying, “Don’t worry Sam I already vetted them thoroughly.” At which point Bucky and Sam grin at each other and exchange man hugs, you know the type, chest bump with a pat on the shoulder blade. Classic scene right there.
I hope Hector is right with his theory about Bucky and how he fits into the story of the Thunderbolts. After all he's been through and after all he achieved in TFATWS, he deserves to be a leader who shows others how they can change their destiny.
I really love watching you guys and hear your take on the comic book movies. So much positivity and just pure enjoyment, even if you’re not particularly a fan of a character or movie. Another note, I really like Hector’s knowledge of these characters. I would hope that the Thunderbolts is going in the angle that he theorized because that sounds like it really great movie plot but my fear is that the MCU will go in another direction.
I love these characters and I hope we see what Ghost and Taskmaster in particular have been up to since we've seen them last. And I'm REAL curious what they want to do with "Bob".
I'm so curious how this film is going to play out. Now that the Guardians have established themselves, maybe Thunderbolts* could be the new team of losers in the MCU.
Glad "Bob" went from Top Gun Maverick to The Thunderbolts. Just hoping the actor won't be given the same name/nickname in each and every movie he's in.
The way Val looks at them assembled and says they are cute seems like she wasn’t expecting them to be a team. I love the dark avengers-Ross theory but it seems more like they are being targeted by Val
My guess with the title is that they'll do the same thing they did with Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Thats the title through the entire thing, until the end credits roll and it shifts to Dark Avengers Edit: as soon as I hit send on this, Adam says it lol
I hope on Disney Plus they change the name as well. Like when you finished falcon and the winter soldier and then look at the logo. It changes to Captain America.
@@famedset1162 / that's exactly what they gone do, yeah, it's gone change when the movie end, Oyeah if you "Google" the cast of the ("Thunderbolts") you'll see that ("Zemo) is in the movie. also ("Lawrence fishburne") as ("Goliath) from the comic-books", Harrison Ford is there as well, & "Cap 4 " is connected to the ("Thunderbolts") facts!!
Man, this was a comment I meant to post on the Agatha reaction, but I love Hector’s enthusiasm and love for this shit 😂. Little things like wanting to make sure what year in the MCU timeline we were and everything he was breaking down in this review of the trailer. Love all of it.
Until Adam said it I forgot Lewis Pullman was in Top Gun Maverick which his call sign was BOB. I may be being dense but this must be a callback/joke of that until his true reveal.
Very informative. I hope all the threads are lined up for the Thunderbolts to end up being a Ross/Red Hulk led group that form after the Dark Avengers end up straying from the original plan for them. That could mean that Deadpool and Punisher are part of the team by the time we get to Secret Wars. We can only dream.
I'll never understand why studios block reaction videos. Like don't you want as much publicity as possible? Why are you making RUclipsrs and creators edit your trailer to the point where it is unrecognizable? It baffles me.
John Walkers fall from grace was my favorite part in F&WS , i love how i could see his perspective but also know he was wrong at the same time, but it wasnt completely black and white, it was very gray and thats what this movie feels like, a morally gray movie, where it ends up... well see
Really enjoyed the vibe of this trailer. Wasn't too invested in this story. Thought they would just do Suicide Squad but marvels, leaning too much on the second one of those working out as well as Deadpool's style of being an anti-hero. But no, while there is your quips and humour of the characters interacting, the base tone is quite serious. These broken people who thought they were going to be heroes and ended up as villains.
Been watching you guys for years so I was going to watch this anyways, but just wanted to say thank you for helping out those Regects with their upload issues lol both Reforged and Regects are both amazing channels
They had such great opportunity to bring back Rachael Taylor as Trish Walker aka Hellcat from Jessica Jones! Literally sent to the raft without due process, sokovian accords have now been repealed, she deserves a further story. All she ever wanted to be was a hero, she fits this team so perfectly:/
I agree with Hector on the title but can’t waste a moment to mention corporate synergy and the Captain America trailer mentioning Thunderbolt Ross, explicitly. Seems like we’re back to tying things together even on a minor level. W
I think the movie will remain Thunderbolts but it will end with the team unintentionally giving Val/President Ross the idea to create a new Dark Avengers with villains that they can control. Then I’d love for Doom to come in as Iron Patriot, pretending to be Stark, and controlling the Dark Avengers as a substitute for Norman Osborn for Doomsday (but this bit seems unlikely)
Thank you, Hector and Adam. Been waiting for your reaction. Guess the best was saved for last. A few things to say about this movie now that this trailer is out: - Hoping this movie’s Rated R (as rumored since last December from Alex Perez of The Cosmic Circus), even in the wake of the $1.3B success of Deadpool & Wolverine, or hard PG-13 to do characters like Ghost or Sentry (ESPECIALLY when he becomes The Void) justice, especially with Blade’s release date now unknown and I’d rather not wait years for the next MCU film from Disney that’s Rated R. - This is the same 3.5-minute trailer from Comic-Con (NOT D23 because it wasn’t shown there), but with some differences, mainly we don’t see Alexei belt out “ENOUGH TALK,” we don’t see Alexei’s speech in the car at the end where he cheers up the team, and we don’t see Yelena jumping off the Merdeka 118 tower, which was filmed in Malaysia and is practical, per Florence Pugh. - Also it looks like Val is indeed the owner of Avengers Tower, which means we’ll finally get the “who owned Avengers Tower” question answered. - And out of all the characters on the team, I’m curious to see how Ghost fits in on the team, given the team is all characters from Black Widow or Captain America fare, except Ghost because she’s a villain from Ant-Man and the Wasp, an Ant-Man movie villain, and that’s what fascinates me the most about her inclusion in the movie. - Also, I wonder if the Thunderbolts* title has an asterisk there because the team will become The Secret Avengers at the end of the movie, whereas Sam Wilson will form the New Avengers at the end of Captain America: Brave New World (since he won’t wanna follow Ross’s idea to have a government-sponsored team of Avengers) and we’ll see them again (alongside the Fantastic 4 and hopefully Deadpool) in Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars.
I am so exided for Thunderbolts finally with* It was confirmed that Marvel with the Deadpool and Wolverine film is returning to filmography such as winter soldier, Agents of Shield, Defenders Serialy. MCU 4. Saga that ended Balck Panther Wakanda Forever. ------ Dave Filony, after trying Acolite episode 5, decided to be the head of the new leader who was put in charge of Star Wars. He said that an R-rating SW movie is planned.
Am I also hoping that we get the start of a potential romantic storyline for Bucky and Yelena? Yes I am. Was gutted we didn’t get Bucky and Natasha romance from the comics so I’m keeping my fingers crossed!
One of my biggest disappointments from the original Avengers was that we never got more of the epic Bucky/Natasha love story from comics than Natasha’s “you could at least recognize me” in Civil War. Man, I read the heck out of those two just blasting around the country blowing stuff up together and flirting during battles and doing whatever it took to save each other lol. Screw Steve/Sharon-Bucky/Nat was Marvel doing a love story right imo. And it was really cool-cold war spy vibes while they investigated the shared background between the Winter Soldier and the Black Widows. I’d really hoped for something in the Black Widow Film to hint that Bucky had been around in her backstory, but nada. I’d say Bucky/Yelena might be one direction for those same vibes, but I feel like it’s a little creepy to just replace a woman with her sister when they’ve already hinted the original romance was canon, even if they just left it hanging there like a plot hole. They tried it with Peggy and Sharon and it didn’t work at all. granted, the Bucky/Nat stuff went over the heads of anyone who doesn’t read the comics, whereas Steve/Peggy got a whole movie, but it’s a little icky. Still, we’ll finally have Bucky and a Black Widow in a scene at the same time when he’s actually himself and not the WS. I’m curious and excited about the potential outcome. It doesn’t have to be a romance, necessarily-just something.
Not going to lie when I saw this "*" in the title on RUclips, I thought it was an error, lol. Such a well done teaser, the scope of this film in terms of grandeur looks top notch, "Excelsior!"
I wonder if the timing will work out between the movies and Daredevil in such a way that it would allow Wilson Bethel's Bullseye to join the Dark Avengers. If memory serves, he was used as the group's Hawkeye analog. Echo would also make an interesting addition, but that Bullseye portrayal was awesome. DD S3 actually made Bullseye interesting; sympathetic, even. And, of course, where's Frank? Not that he'd join a team like that, but a little Punisher seasoning can really help a meal cook.
Little worried about Bucky there at the end. His whole persona there really comes off like the Winter Soldier again, which shouldn't be possible after his deprogramming in other Marvel properties. Hopefully they aren't retconning stuff.
@@HeroesReforgedI am so exided for Thunderbolts finally with* It was confirmed that Marvel with the Deadpool and Wolverine film is returning to filmography such as winter soldier, Agents of Shield, Defenders Serialy. MCU 4. Saga that ended Balck Panther Wakanda Forever. ------ Dave Filony, after trying Acolite episode 5, decided to be the head of the new leader who was put in charge of Star Wars. He said that an R-rating SW movie is planned.
Million Exploding Sun Hot Take: Bob takes the place of Molacular Man as Doom´s "power source" for Battleworld in Secret Wars. They are increadably simular with both being near omni powered beings hampered by theyr fragile mental state. So unless they plan to introduce Owen Reese soon Bob Reynolds can stand in for him.
13:15 "We got Scarlett Johansson back, because she's a massive movie star. She was in Transformers 1." ....ummm, no! Is Hector confusing ScarJo with Megan Fox??
I know some came after, but it would have been cool to have had this film during infinity war and endgame. What does the world like like without. Excited for this hopefully Brave New World gives it a ticking clock.
sad steven yeun and ayo edebiri had to drop out (just because i adore them both as actors) but the actors cast instead are gonna do a great job and this looks so good!!!
i'm going to have to show this to my wife. she got the concept of these bad guys coming together and she was like, "I thought bucky wasn't supposed to be a bad guy anymore." Hectors explanation was great.
What I do like from this trailer, aside from it being properly lighted of course, is the fact that this trailer makes it look like theyre paying sufficient respect to these characters and the humour feels organic to them instead of just thrown in there for trailers. Im kind of sad that this is the teaser though. Would be perfect for a final trailer imo. I really dont want to learn more about this movie.
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I think the aspect of this film I am going to like the most, no surprise here is Yelena, she is not Nat, I am glad the director is not making Yelena desire to even be Nat.
Well, He Knows their around 8 different ''Thunderbolt'' Teams....In the Marvel Comic book's Over the Years.....
I like His theory. But it's to safe....a Little Vanilla....
I have a Crazy theory , What if- the * at the End Means ...Someone like .. -Val
Has completely different team . ''Thunderbolt's- Of vill*in's who set up (Everyone or are set to take their place)
Say Example-Fixer ,Screaming Mimi , Moonstone and Younger new- Goliath. Just saying)
And Val- Wanted to Send Her other (Old Assassins...The ones we seen before) to a Trap (To Take them out).
To replace them with easier to control assets? The ''Thunderbolt's''
And the Ones we think are the ''Thunderbolt'' team are Just Brought together by accident when the Trap did not work? I mean in the One scene at the Party a young Lady next to Val looked a lot like the Character design of ''Song Bird'' ....Its a wild theory. I know. But if they did that. or something close...it would Make The MCU Fans Like the (Unliked Taskmaster/Ghost ie Misfits More Likable!
I’m just happy to see Bucky and Yelena back.
Hector is LOCKED IN. Didn’t know all that backstory about Thunderbolts. Very cool.
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I love that Bucky's using the explosive disc launcher he used in Winter Soldier.
I think the asterisk is just what Adam pointed out, that the "Thunderbolts" name is just a front for their real name: Dark Avengers...or the Sentry's logo is actually the asterisk as stylized in the name? (and that's why they said we wouldn't find out what it is until we watch the movie)🤔
Or it could be the Secret Avengers.
Yup and the Sentry will be their version of the Hulk. I think they nerf him a little bit. Dude almost godlike.
Kind of like Falcon and the Winter Soldier in the end of the series changed to 'Captain America and the Winter Soldier"
@@eaglesphan5650 I mean they've already shown similar characters being pretty powerful, such as Captain Marvel and Adam Warlock.
Hector I love when you help explain the comic lore to make a better foundation for someone like me who is loving the MCU’s but never read the comics, once.
Read the comics! THUNDERBOLTS was just released into a convenient EPIC COLLECTION format, and there's a slightly good chance you might like it! = )
@hectorminator not everyone has time or sources. Remember that)
@@lunatic5162 if people are interested enough in these characters and stories to watch movies and tv shows, they can and should make time to enjoy the source material and appreciate the art form that inspired the characters and stories they love so much.
Hector is very good at what he does. My comic reading focus was on Daredevil, so sometimes I get the smattering of Avengers comics I"ve read muddled up, and Hector's explanations are illuminating. But to echo Hectorminator, if you have the time and a few extra bucks, a subscription to Marvel Unlimited is worth the couple of dollars for the subscription. But it's easy to ger overwhelmed, so my recommendation is to do what I did and focus on one character or group.
Thanks for being a RUclips channel that actually enjoys Marvel trailers.
Too many of these channels just make videos bashing everything nowadays.....
Yeah the rage bait is old already I’m so tired of it, even when they have a point it’s just too much and they take it way too far.
Normies have unfortunately kind of become that recently which has been disappointing… they were one of my favorites. Of course they aren’t nearly as bad as other channels, but it’s just annoying to see
@@Byronic19134 I just watched a reaction video today where a guy did the "Critical Drinker"-lite reaction and 90% of the comments in his page disagreed with him.
🤷 dc had that for years but i bet you were Right there bashing those trailers
@@KonohazFinest Wrong...not at all.
Hearing Hector go through the lore makes me more excited about the movie than the trailer did. Love you guys!
Guys when they get in the elevator and come out and confront Valentina , that’s the old Avengers Tower. Looks like she bought it.
That was my first thought too. The interior looks similar too. Given that the other Avengers base got wrecked, it would be pretty cool for the old one to start out as Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers base, only to have the new version of the Avengers to reclaim it.
@@zombiepicnic9683they'll probably blow it up in this movie
Yeah that's confirmed she's the owner
@@keeganbate8935They are absolutely not about to blow up a skyscraper in NY during this movie are you nutty buddy?
@@Byronic19134 ...Did you not watch The Avengers? Or Hawkeye? A skyscraper exploding in NY is literally part of Kate's backstory.
This dude really had his arm in the dishwasher. I ain’t even mad at him
Have I seriously been the only person crushing on and waiting on Ghost to return!? That's legit the #1 reason why I am watching.
On top of that, I never realized how sick Ghost's(his) background story is in the comics. Kind of reminds me of Scott Lang, sticking it to the corpos.
yeah i'm absolutely looking forward to more Ghost, i've liked hannah john-kamen since killjoys
That comic book lore pull from Hector is why I follow this channel, I'm really excited for this movie cause I love me a good underdog story too.
Love hearing Hectors background in comic lore. It makes me excited to see the direction Marvel could be going with this movie.
Such a great Teaser I feel like this movie is going underappreciated... People will be pleasantly surprised!
My favorite MCU character has always been Bucky, so I just hope they do him justice. But I'm also just curious to see how well all of these characters work together.
Agreed! They had better do right by bucky. He needs to be respected.
I realized Red Guardian٫ Taskmaster٫ and USAgent all will have shields
Careful Who You Assemble is a great tagline
Speaking of putting 'a Pin on bucky'...on that shot of him walking into the press conference hes wearing a pin, congressman? Senator maybe?
it's just a seal. he is working for someone, in this case probably Valentina.
Wyatt Russell let is slip at SDCC that Bucky is in fact a congressman now
@@thapelomosiuoa2913 I think that was a running joke between the guys. They kept laughing when they would mention it.
Well I love Hannah Joy Kamen. So I'm happy she is back as Ghost.
And of course bucky and Yelena. Are my favs
Actually one of the best post-trailer discussions since, like... civil war? Not that others arent interesting. Just very intrigued with how all this could go!
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I Love it when Hector breaks down what the comics did and lays out potential similarities between the film/show with the books. That Heroes Reforged outro song!! Sounds like something from the FIFA playlists. I love it!!!
Thanks homie!!!
if bucky can become that leader at then end of this and then sam gets an avengers group together and the meet back up in one of the avengers movies would be some good marvel stuff
Dude, imagine if Bucky and Sam teaming up with their squads to take on RDJ Doom.
Would be wild!
@@melon_jelly3960 that would be some peak marvel stuff right there
Bucky is not a leader tho he’s more the OG mentor like we saw in FATWS so I can see him taking Ylana and Johnny Walker under his wing and we will see Ylana emerge as the leader as we already see in the trailer her taking command of the group when they meet up explaining to them they been set up. Plus Lawrence Pugh has the most on screen star power.
@@adreday10 I was thinking a cool scene would be Sam with his group meeting up with the Thunderbolts and asking how does he know he can trust them, and that’s when you see Bucky come out the back of somewhere putting on arm back on saying, “Don’t worry Sam I already vetted them thoroughly.” At which point Bucky and Sam grin at each other and exchange man hugs, you know the type, chest bump with a pat on the shoulder blade. Classic scene right there.
I hope Hector is right with his theory about Bucky and how he fits into the story of the Thunderbolts. After all he's been through and after all he achieved in TFATWS, he deserves to be a leader who shows others how they can change their destiny.
I really love watching you guys and hear your take on the comic book movies. So much positivity and just pure enjoyment, even if you’re not particularly a fan of a character or movie. Another note, I really like Hector’s knowledge of these characters. I would hope that the Thunderbolts is going in the angle that he theorized because that sounds like it really great movie plot but my fear is that the MCU will go in another direction.
I know people say Sentry is lame but he is my favourite marvel character, they will probably nerf him but i hope he gets some justice.
Hey, that team needs someone who can go toe to toe with Captain Marvel and the Hulk, and that will be Bob's job.
Hector that post trailer discussion was excellent. I was already excited but now im even more intrigued with the story possibilities.
Thanks for watching the *entire* video!
I love these characters and I hope we see what Ghost and Taskmaster in particular have been up to since we've seen them last. And I'm REAL curious what they want to do with "Bob".
"Bob" = Sentry
I hope they actually give Taskmaster a personality
I'm so curious how this film is going to play out. Now that the Guardians have established themselves, maybe Thunderbolts* could be the new team of losers in the MCU.
Glad "Bob" went from Top Gun Maverick to The Thunderbolts. Just hoping the actor won't be given the same name/nickname in each and every movie he's in.
oh, he totally should be BOB in everything
@@Castor7666Agree. If it works it twerks.
I am so excited about this movie! Bucky has been my favorite Marvel character and seeing him possibly take a leadership role is going to be awesome!
The way Val looks at them assembled and says they are cute seems like she wasn’t expecting them to be a team. I love the dark avengers-Ross theory but it seems more like they are being targeted by Val
I disagree I think Val clearly was waiting for them to return back after teaming up and passing the first test.
It actually looks visually competent. Marvel finally let their filmmakers color grade.
this is why i have been following these guys for years, hector with all the lore.
My "holy sh*t this is gonna slap" senses are tinglinggg!!!!
My guess with the title is that they'll do the same thing they did with Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Thats the title through the entire thing, until the end credits roll and it shifts to Dark Avengers
Edit: as soon as I hit send on this, Adam says it lol
I hope on Disney Plus they change the name as well. Like when you finished falcon and the winter soldier and then look at the logo. It changes to Captain America.
@@famedset1162 / that's exactly what they gone do, yeah, it's gone change when the movie end, Oyeah if you "Google" the cast of the ("Thunderbolts") you'll see that ("Zemo) is in the movie. also ("Lawrence fishburne") as ("Goliath) from the comic-books", Harrison Ford is there as well, & "Cap 4 " is connected to the ("Thunderbolts") facts!!
Man, this was a comment I meant to post on the Agatha reaction, but I love Hector’s enthusiasm and love for this shit 😂. Little things like wanting to make sure what year in the MCU timeline we were and everything he was breaking down in this review of the trailer. Love all of it.
Until Adam said it I forgot Lewis Pullman was in Top Gun Maverick which his call sign was BOB. I may be being dense but this must be a callback/joke of that until his true reveal.
@Bigshow841 Also his name in the comics is Robert Reynolds so it fits that way as well
Definitely feels like dark avengers set up
Very informative. I hope all the threads are lined up for the Thunderbolts to end up being a Ross/Red Hulk led group that form after the Dark Avengers end up straying from the original plan for them. That could mean that Deadpool and Punisher are part of the team by the time we get to Secret Wars. We can only dream.
Valentina really feels like the Amanda Waller to Ross's Lex.
Thunderbolts* is going to be awesome
Love the cast, and the story hinted from the trailer. Cannot wait to see this
Loving Hectors new chair 😂
Hector knows his sh…t
😎👍🏾 Love the details and lore you guys (Hector) share. I've become more of a MXU fan because of You All. Thanks for everything 💖✌🏾
Buckyyyyyy❤❤❤❤❤
I'll never understand why studios block reaction videos. Like don't you want as much publicity as possible? Why are you making RUclipsrs and creators edit your trailer to the point where it is unrecognizable? It baffles me.
John Walkers fall from grace was my favorite part in F&WS , i love how i could see his perspective but also know he was wrong at the same time, but it wasnt completely black and white, it was very gray and thats what this movie feels like, a morally gray movie, where it ends up... well see
Actually Hector made me more interested in this movie than the trailer :)
The Dark Avengers reveal will be awsome, i really enjoyed the trailer. I cant wait to see this.
I want this movie to be good so bad
SO EXCITED FOR THIS AND CAPTAIN AMERICA!
I think in Captain America trailer when G. Ross says "you are not Steve Rogers" will be the breaking point. And then he will create the Dark Avengers
Really enjoyed the vibe of this trailer. Wasn't too invested in this story. Thought they would just do Suicide Squad but marvels, leaning too much on the second one of those working out as well as Deadpool's style of being an anti-hero. But no, while there is your quips and humour of the characters interacting, the base tone is quite serious. These broken people who thought they were going to be heroes and ended up as villains.
I was already looking forward to the movie but after hector’s breakdown from the comics im even more excited to watch it
I really want a Dark Avengers team..
okay this sounds fun.
and uh, i'm very attracted to Yelena's look
Been watching you guys for years so I was going to watch this anyways, but just wanted to say thank you for helping out those Regects with their upload issues lol both Reforged and Regects are both amazing channels
Well done, Hector...i dropped out in 1996 so i missed all that fun stuff 💪
They had such great opportunity to bring back Rachael Taylor as Trish Walker aka Hellcat from Jessica Jones! Literally sent to the raft without due process, sokovian accords have now been repealed, she deserves a further story. All she ever wanted to be was a hero, she fits this team so perfectly:/
I believe there is a scene in this trailer where Bucky is washing his arm. Perhaps that is symbolic is that he is washing his previously dirty hands.
I really like the Heroes Reforged song at the end, it slaps
I agree with Hector on the title but can’t waste a moment to mention corporate synergy and the Captain America trailer mentioning Thunderbolt Ross, explicitly. Seems like we’re back to tying things together even on a minor level. W
I think the movie will remain Thunderbolts but it will end with the team unintentionally giving Val/President Ross the idea to create a new Dark Avengers with villains that they can control.
Then I’d love for Doom to come in as Iron Patriot, pretending to be Stark, and controlling the Dark Avengers as a substitute for Norman Osborn for Doomsday (but this bit seems unlikely)
Thank you, Hector and Adam. Been waiting for your reaction. Guess the best was saved for last.
A few things to say about this movie now that this trailer is out:
- Hoping this movie’s Rated R (as rumored since last December from Alex Perez of The Cosmic Circus), even in the wake of the $1.3B success of Deadpool & Wolverine, or hard PG-13 to do characters like Ghost or Sentry (ESPECIALLY when he becomes The Void) justice, especially with Blade’s release date now unknown and I’d rather not wait years for the next MCU film from Disney that’s Rated R.
- This is the same 3.5-minute trailer from Comic-Con (NOT D23 because it wasn’t shown there), but with some differences, mainly we don’t see Alexei belt out “ENOUGH TALK,” we don’t see Alexei’s speech in the car at the end where he cheers up the team, and we don’t see Yelena jumping off the Merdeka 118 tower, which was filmed in Malaysia and is practical, per Florence Pugh.
- Also it looks like Val is indeed the owner of Avengers Tower, which means we’ll finally get the “who owned Avengers Tower” question answered.
- And out of all the characters on the team, I’m curious to see how Ghost fits in on the team, given the team is all characters from Black Widow or Captain America fare, except Ghost because she’s a villain from Ant-Man and the Wasp, an Ant-Man movie villain, and that’s what fascinates me the most about her inclusion in the movie.
- Also, I wonder if the Thunderbolts* title has an asterisk there because the team will become The Secret Avengers at the end of the movie, whereas Sam Wilson will form the New Avengers at the end of Captain America: Brave New World (since he won’t wanna follow Ross’s idea to have a government-sponsored team of Avengers) and we’ll see them again (alongside the Fantastic 4 and hopefully Deadpool) in Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars.
Beyond excited for this movie after watching this trailer… Bob is going to be insane🫣
I am so exided for Thunderbolts finally with*
It was confirmed that Marvel with the Deadpool and Wolverine film is returning to filmography such as winter soldier, Agents of Shield, Defenders Serialy. MCU 4. Saga that ended Balck Panther Wakanda Forever.
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Dave Filony, after trying Acolite episode 5, decided to be the head of the new leader who was put in charge of Star Wars. He said that an R-rating SW movie is planned.
Am I also hoping that we get the start of a potential romantic storyline for Bucky and Yelena? Yes I am.
Was gutted we didn’t get Bucky and Natasha romance from the comics so I’m keeping my fingers crossed!
That outro song!!!!! Lol I need that MP3! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
“Enjoy Bob.” 😂
You don't put the word "ASSEMBLE" in a trailer without alluding to Avengers ... but darker
One of my biggest disappointments from the original Avengers was that we never got more of the epic Bucky/Natasha love story from comics than Natasha’s “you could at least recognize me” in Civil War. Man, I read the heck out of those two just blasting around the country blowing stuff up together and flirting during battles and doing whatever it took to save each other lol. Screw Steve/Sharon-Bucky/Nat was Marvel doing a love story right imo.
And it was really cool-cold war spy vibes while they investigated the shared background between the Winter Soldier and the Black Widows. I’d really hoped for something in the Black Widow Film to hint that Bucky had been around in her backstory, but nada.
I’d say Bucky/Yelena might be one direction for those same vibes, but I feel like it’s a little creepy to just replace a woman with her sister when they’ve already hinted the original romance was canon, even if they just left it hanging there like a plot hole. They tried it with Peggy and Sharon and it didn’t work at all. granted, the Bucky/Nat stuff went over the heads of anyone who doesn’t read the comics, whereas Steve/Peggy got a whole movie, but it’s a little icky.
Still, we’ll finally have Bucky and a Black Widow in a scene at the same time when he’s actually himself and not the WS. I’m curious and excited about the potential outcome. It doesn’t have to be a romance, necessarily-just something.
Not going to lie when I saw this "*" in the title on RUclips, I thought it was an error, lol. Such a well done teaser, the scope of this film in terms of grandeur looks top notch, "Excelsior!"
Bob is the Sentry
I’m so excited!!!!
I wonder if the timing will work out between the movies and Daredevil in such a way that it would allow Wilson Bethel's Bullseye to join the Dark Avengers. If memory serves, he was used as the group's Hawkeye analog. Echo would also make an interesting addition, but that Bullseye portrayal was awesome. DD S3 actually made Bullseye interesting; sympathetic, even.
And, of course, where's Frank? Not that he'd join a team like that, but a little Punisher seasoning can really help a meal cook.
Bucky is gonna carry this movie
Little worried about Bucky there at the end. His whole persona there really comes off like the Winter Soldier again, which shouldn't be possible after his deprogramming in other Marvel properties. Hopefully they aren't retconning stuff.
super excited for this movie :D
LETS GO!
I love that the actor playing "Bob" was also Bob in Top Gun: Maverick😄
And his dad is the President from ID4 - Bill Pullman
@@HeroesReforgedI am so exided for Thunderbolts finally with*
It was confirmed that Marvel with the Deadpool and Wolverine film is returning to filmography such as winter soldier, Agents of Shield, Defenders Serialy. MCU 4. Saga that ended Balck Panther Wakanda Forever.
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Dave Filony, after trying Acolite episode 5, decided to be the head of the new leader who was put in charge of Star Wars. He said that an R-rating SW movie is planned.
Asterisk …computer for searching for connection 😮🎉😊
I hope they go dark with Bob
Million Exploding Sun Hot Take: Bob takes the place of Molacular Man as Doom´s "power source" for Battleworld in Secret Wars. They are increadably simular with both being near omni powered beings hampered by theyr fragile mental state. So unless they plan to introduce Owen Reese soon Bob Reynolds can stand in for him.
13:15 "We got Scarlett Johansson back, because she's a massive movie star. She was in Transformers 1."
....ummm, no! Is Hector confusing ScarJo with Megan Fox??
Transformers One is the name of the animated movie currently in theaters starting Scarlett Johansson.
Robert "Bob" Reynolds aka Sentry✨
The Power of Golden Sentry Serum 100,000 times Stronger than Captain America Serum
Hey Adam. Just came from Reel Rejects, thanks for helping them out. Maybe a colab with them sometime.
* in the title hopefully = Dark Avengers !
Would be very interesting if they intend to tackle Bob from the other angle instead of as Sentry.
The overall premise of this rag-tag team is giving me some of the same vibes as Guardians of the Galaxy.
I know some came after, but it would have been cool to have had this film during infinity war and endgame. What does the world like like without. Excited for this hopefully Brave New World gives it a ticking clock.
sad steven yeun and ayo edebiri had to drop out (just because i adore them both as actors) but the actors cast instead are gonna do a great job and this looks so good!!!
i'm going to have to show this to my wife. she got the concept of these bad guys coming together and she was like, "I thought bucky wasn't supposed to be a bad guy anymore." Hectors explanation was great.
Movie looks dope
Im guessing the thunderbolts are like the suisiide squad or deadpool, basically heroes that kill
It also interesting how there’s no magic base people on the team.
I wonder if it’s Val’s weak spot 🤔
Magic is hard to control ✨
Thunderbolts: Second Bananas
What I do like from this trailer, aside from it being properly lighted of course, is the fact that this trailer makes it look like theyre paying sufficient respect to these characters and the humour feels organic to them instead of just thrown in there for trailers.
Im kind of sad that this is the teaser though. Would be perfect for a final trailer imo. I really dont want to learn more about this movie.
You think they’re standing inside the Avengers tower..?
Not sure if it struck anyone else as suspicious that the party Val is at is in the set from Avengers where Loki took that guys eye
Great Vid, Out Of The 3 Super Soldier's Whose Strongest...????