I personally draw strength from your positive outlook on SA. Sometimes, we’re so caught up in the negativity that goes on in our country because we know we can do better. But your balanced, ‘outsider’s’ view really helps. I know someday all Africans from everywhere will come together and get it right. 🙏🏾
You are in a fortunate space where you get to see South Africa 🇿🇦 developing it's young democracy..yes mistakes will be made..there will be successes there will be failures but it's a country which is work in progress
The World Cup definitely put RSA on the map for me and I am not even into soccer like that. I still think of that 'Waving Flag' song. Great PR for South Africa
Great conversation Dr. Asad. Yes, please interview more African American homesteaders in South Africa and there occupations. Again, we thank you and your lovely wife. Blessings!
Love the interview, and great information. I'm looking forward to spending time in SA, on Monday and to embrace the culture of South Africans. I'm hoping to be an change agent at helping to change the narrative about SA. I hope to spend a little time with you Doc. Much blessings!
@2:00 Exactly - folks need to watch the documentary called 'Blacks without Borders' which shows the MANY African Americans who came to RSA just after apartheid ended and started businesses on the invitation of Madiba
Speaking of Home Affairs, did you see striking DHA officials serenading a white couple that came to get married and found the staff out on strike, and the officials turned the encounter into a community wedding celebration, surrounding the white couple and ululating - forgetting for a moment that they are supposed to be on strike? Crazy country.
Agree. Once they put in Zuma, they lost the plot. I don't however think that they will let any other party rule. We can see what they do to other parties running municipalities.
She is so right, the South was thee place then. South Gate area not necessarily the Mall and Soweto night life was out there. You'd move from Sandton after work from around 21:00 back to Soweto or South Gate to have fun. I've had the opportunity to live in Kempton Park in 2001/2 and there were many places were black people had fun. Kempton Park was happening back in those days, I think it still is.
I am going on an African-American woman hunt. She reminded me of one Caribbean woman some years ago, we used to have a thing together. It is true, it is never too late to build on your dreams.
I'm just loving how this video is tracking with my recent train of thought -- I had literally JUST watched that Steve Harvey piece, and now this 😅! Perfect. 👌🏾💯 -- Love from a Jamaican family abroad in the USA! 🇯🇲🇯🇲
Hello my favorite couple 😊. I am South African, born and bread in Durban, a 70's child. I used to eat at restaurants in the CityCenter with my mother around the age of 10 if not younger. So we been out in these streets 😂😂😂. In 1994, I was living in a surbub called Musgrave near Florida road, Morningside, Durban eating and shopping, traveling anywhere I wanted. Blacks going to multiracial schools. Everyone was tolarent and respectful to one another. She's definitely right we've taken two steps back due to poor service delivery and Gorvenence. People are angry, worsened by Covid, the corruption, economy has taken a downturn, the gap has widened, that said much increased middle class, upper class and the mega rich. We have a large mixed race community mainly because we've been mixing since before 1994. Now it's more visible and palatable to those who has issues.
wow. great interview however i think you barely scrapped the surface with her. There's more she can shed light on if she can remember house parties and kwaito. i believe theres more she can answer to most of the things sometimes you wonder about or think you know. theres more i wish to know from her perspective as early in the 2000s it was a different breed and she remembers like it happened yesterday. wow she needs to come back and im willing to send some questions that might be of interest to be discussed. she really took me back in my pre teens jamming to kwaito and the evolution to house. great interview.
Great interview it's interesting to hear about the early 2000s of South Africa because I was young and I didn't observe the changes however I did feel them and influences around me.
This was a great conversation to witness,I particularly enjoyed that you guys spoke about the romanticizing then continent...too often people either go one extreme or the other and there is no balance for people who are thinking about coming have an experience here on the continent.
Great video! My wife and I met you and Adrienne at Antoine’s New Year’s Eve party, we live in VA and have been watching your videos. We’re already planning our second visit for September. Eshanda did a great job talking about her experience in SA. We love SA and will make it our home in the near future. Your videos will definitely help many African Americans in understanding the real South Africa and not the false narrative that has been given to us here in America! Thanks again! I will definitely have to add the word de-negro-fy to my vocabulary 😂 because that is so true when being in SA, it’s a whole different vibe from the states.
Dr. Assad, please continue to interview more AA who moved to S. A. Before all the latest hype. Moving to S.A is a goal of mine. Thank you both so much for the all the information you provide. Valerie Dickinson Fayetteville, GA
Definitely more house parties in the early 2000’s a lot of RnB and kwaito. We had a slightly more competent government and our economy had steady growth. When we didn’t know what blackouts or load-shedding was
Thank you Dr with great interview. Please Dr can you interview a onwer of Capetown tigers ( basketball ) who is Mr Raphael Alexander Edward a African American. He also hired more African Americans basket players to play Cape town tigers.He Brought Zaire Wade to play for them.
Mandela once said sports bring people togther and that is great example in south africa from the 1994 CAf cup won by south african team Orlando Pirates in the african teams cup, to rugby world cup win and hosting in 1996 , cricket world cup hosting to the FIFA world cup created unity, pride and love amongst all south africans of all races.
My only concern for RSA would be the social stability as the effects of apartheid are still present - and while there is a growing black middle class, I wonder if it is happening fast enough to prevent 'the pot from boiling over' - not to mention the unresolved land issue, etc I am getting the sense that the non black RSA citizens are kind of self segregating themselves slowly with many Whites moving to the Western Cape/Cape Town area, Blacks in Gauteng/Joberg area, and Indians in Durban but I could be wrong about this; Though I do know of a couple of 'white only' towns with their own laws, own currency, etc which is crazy to me Aside from that, I have concerns about general security as I am seeing shootings are become more frequent it seems. I would guess this ties in to my first point - middle class folks are not robbing people so we need to get more and more of us into economic comfort All in all, I would recommend RSA to most African Americans as it provides the comforts they are used to in the West(via the best infrastructure on the continent) and very welcoming people who UNDERSTAND our history and our struggle and can relate because of apartheid - RSA folks are like our long lost cousins and we just click naturally when we get together.(and even more so than we click with West Africans strangely) RSA is one of the youngest countries on Earth so I would tell others not to judge too harshly! I am learning Zulu and will be visiting soon as I own land in the Northern Cape
I think the Rugby World Cup in 1995 was the perfect stage for Madiba to show the world his Rainbow Nation. He ahowef the world a winning nation and showed them that we're gonna be alright. The Fifa World cup was us showing the world that the Rainbow Nation was gonna be ok even after Madia.
@@asadelmalikphd where do I even start 🤔. With democratic change becoming inevitable, a bunch of whites left the country, sold their properties in suburbs and a bunch of blacks were ready to buy. Where I lived even in Sandton back in 1997 blacks were all over the place as early as the mid nineties not only around 2010
True! What this lady is saying is not entirely true. We have e been going to restaurants since after 1990. She is clearly behaving like she is a"better black" . I want to caution. Pls don't behave like you are a "better black". We will reject you just like we embrace you . Ask The Zimbabweans!!!!
Someone experienced S.A. for 20 years and your perspective is the only correct one!?! The hubris of projecting your life experience on others is amazing.
I can't really disagree with her analysis of RSA during the early 2000's. At that time we were still finding our feet and hesitant to move to or explore previously white dominated areas.
I am from the USA and I married a woman from South Africa I visit several times and the country is must visit the culture and land is eye catching many things to do and places to go and it's cheaper than the US .,..alot of black people from the US don't want to visit cause they hear the negative info the untruth well I been and it's all good but everywhere has its pros and cons I even got married there
We really regained our confidence between 2010 and 2017/2018, especially in the period from 2015 x 2017 when our government started talking about prioritising our development, and deserving poor students got free higher education. During that time government rhetoric was really about “it’s time now, black people need to move closer to the centre of all spheres of our country and society”. The line of thinking did not last long before there was a counter, but black people had found their “groove” and have not looked back. They just became more “ungovernable”, meaning that they lost all fear, all residue of the effects of apartheid/colonisation and started owning spaces they gave a wide berth before. White people learned to hit the streets demonstrating for the very first rime, against the government. Lots of anti-racism forums popped up and a lot of discussion took place (and shut down as soon as the government got tamed). The needle had moved though. Prior to this, outside of Cape Town and the Western Cape we were very much present in restaurants especially in Joburg, Durban long before the world cup and before 1994, but it was not a comfortable experience. The difference now is that more of us have disposable income, and white people have moved away and formed new enclaves as more and more of us found our way into the centre of life in South Africa. The “born-frees” have no hangups and will go wherever they set their sights on. Oh and the EFF happened too🙈
I think SA was at its peak during the Mbeki presidency, especially the 2nd term. AmaBEE were up, black CEOs, black fashion designers, black DGs, black professionals in general and we had the best Arts & culture minister ever. Tata was busy with his PR, massive industrialisation, low inflation, low unemployment...the works. We are yet to return to that glory
@@lebo5281 yes to an certain extent, but the majority of us were either spectators and just not even ready or equipped to participate. It certainly was the glory days for white business, lots of doors opened and the black middle class started emerging(a deliberate project by the way, to squash black dissent and to increase the pool of consumers). It mostly had nothing to do with us, in the main. It was about their agenda and we were not centred in it. The comment above was a response to an opinion expressed in the video, and summarised how we got our groove, not which president was better. Mbeki had a tough job, he had to set up new institutions and enact a whole bunch of laws to facilitate the transition. He had to pay back loans wantonly taken out just before apartheid ended. He also had to contain us and ensure that the PR - reconciliation project stuck. Madiba did a lot for the Eastern Cape and integration of the country into the international sphere, he wasn’t just on a PR jaunt, although with hindsight we understand the breadth of what could have happened/been done/achieved, had he taken a different approach, or been free to do so. We were still very much spectators and tolerated interlopers. Do think deeper about it, coldly and forgetting which president you liked or disliked. Our first three had tough jobs but did a lot, and could not do quite a lot also. We wait now to see the post mortem on the current.
@baphithi The "Mbeki presidency" references a time, not president 1 vs 2. You can go back to that time to check the amount of deliberate policies and decisions we made to advance black development. The foundation was laid then and it was an exciting time to be a varsity student and watch it happen, from SONA, to budget speech, to the street.
Shalom Most High Bless, love you guys channel just wanted to know if its possible to set up a interview with you guys about is it safe to repatriate or not? Looking forward to speaking with you guys soon.
Hahahahaha I knew Akeen through mutual friends of mine in Cape Town and Johanesburg. We used to get indie Hip-Hop from him. The interracial thing might not really take off like that because South African black people are generally only attracted to black people. Maybe the women will engage that way but again...small pockets.
I wish I could remember this guy's name an AA who's been in SA for 25yrs. He was presenting a workshop in 2018. He even told me a funny story that he lived in Durban and ended up marrying a Zulu princess🤣 but they divorced. Guy had stories for days even the fact that he nearly became a druggie in USA.
The problem with our country is; we are still economically enslaved as hard as it is we have to have this conversation, we do not have land we do not own means of production but I am very hopeful because we as black South Africans are starting to have these conversations. I welcome and I know for sure many South Africans welcome African Americans and those in the Diaspora...
I personally draw strength from your positive outlook on SA. Sometimes, we’re so caught up in the negativity that goes on in our country because we know we can do better. But your balanced, ‘outsider’s’ view really helps. I know someday all Africans from everywhere will come together and get it right. 🙏🏾
You are in a fortunate space where you get to see South Africa 🇿🇦 developing it's young democracy..yes mistakes will be made..there will be successes there will be failures but it's a country which is work in progress
The World Cup definitely put RSA on the map for me and I am not even into soccer like that. I still think of that 'Waving Flag' song. Great PR for South Africa
Great conversation Dr. Asad. Yes, please interview more African American homesteaders in South Africa and there occupations. Again, we thank you and your lovely wife. Blessings!
Love the interview, and great information. I'm looking forward to spending time in SA, on Monday and to embrace the culture of South Africans. I'm hoping to be an change agent at helping to change the narrative about SA. I hope to spend a little time with you Doc. Much blessings!
This was amazing; would love to hear from more of the "Long Timers" there! Thank you for being a blessing, Malik family!🙏🏽
@2:00 Exactly - folks need to watch the documentary called 'Blacks without Borders' which shows the MANY African Americans who came to RSA just after apartheid ended and started businesses on the invitation of Madiba
Speaking of Home Affairs, did you see striking DHA officials serenading a white couple that came to get married and found the staff out on strike, and the officials turned the encounter into a community wedding celebration, surrounding the white couple and ululating - forgetting for a moment that they are supposed to be on strike? Crazy country.
We should be far as a country if it was not for the ANC. They have done some good things but now their time is up.
Agree. Once they put in Zuma, they lost the plot. I don't however think that they will let any other party rule. We can see what they do to other parties running municipalities.
She is so right, the South was thee place then. South Gate area not necessarily the Mall and Soweto night life was out there.
You'd move from Sandton after work from around 21:00 back to Soweto or South Gate to have fun.
I've had the opportunity to live in Kempton Park in 2001/2 and there were many places were black people had fun.
Kempton Park was happening back in those days, I think it still is.
So basically the sister is our makoti (sister in law) beeaauutiifuulllll😍😍🥰🥰
I am going on an African-American woman hunt. She reminded me of one Caribbean woman some years ago, we used to have a thing together. It is true, it is never too late to build on your dreams.
I'm just loving how this video is tracking with my recent train of thought -- I had literally JUST watched that Steve Harvey piece, and now this 😅! Perfect. 👌🏾💯
-- Love from a Jamaican family abroad in the USA! 🇯🇲🇯🇲
Great Vlog! I love to hear about African Americans that have lived on the continent for awhile , I'm looking to relocate to SA in the near future
Thank brother Asad and Sister Adrienne you are a pioneers , sister Eshanda is so brilliant. Love y'all SA for ever. 🇿🇦
@35:10 Yes ma'am - SOMEDAY is not a day on the calendar - Book that flight - make it a real set date
Hello my favorite couple 😊. I am South African, born and bread in Durban, a 70's child. I used to eat at restaurants in the CityCenter with my mother around the age of 10 if not younger. So we been out in these streets 😂😂😂. In 1994, I was living in a surbub called Musgrave near Florida road, Morningside, Durban eating and shopping, traveling anywhere I wanted. Blacks going to multiracial schools. Everyone was tolarent and respectful to one another. She's definitely right we've taken two steps back due to poor service delivery and Gorvenence. People are angry, worsened by Covid, the corruption, economy has taken a downturn, the gap has widened, that said much increased middle class, upper class and the mega rich. We have a large mixed race community mainly because we've been mixing since before 1994. Now it's more visible and palatable to those who has issues.
wow. great interview however i think you barely scrapped the surface with her. There's more she can shed light on if she can remember house parties and kwaito. i believe theres more she can answer to most of the things sometimes you wonder about or think you know. theres more i wish to know from her perspective as early in the 2000s it was a different breed and she remembers like it happened yesterday. wow she needs to come back and im willing to send some questions that might be of interest to be discussed. she really took me back in my pre teens jamming to kwaito and the evolution to house. great interview.
Fully agree
Great interview it's interesting to hear about the early 2000s of South Africa because I was young and I didn't observe the changes however I did feel them and influences around me.
This was a great conversation to witness,I particularly enjoyed that you guys spoke about the romanticizing then continent...too often people either go one extreme or the other and there is no balance for people who are thinking about coming have an experience here on the continent.
Great video! My wife and I met you and Adrienne at Antoine’s New Year’s Eve party, we live in VA and have been watching your videos. We’re already planning our second visit for September. Eshanda did a great job talking about her experience in SA. We love SA and will make it our home in the near future. Your videos will definitely help many African Americans in understanding the real South Africa and not the false narrative that has been given to us here in America! Thanks again! I will definitely have to add the word de-negro-fy to my vocabulary 😂 because that is so true when being in SA, it’s a whole different vibe from the states.
A very good interview Dr Asad I really enjoyed it,thank you and God bless.
As the saying... the grass is green where you water it🤗
Outstanding video! I must admit, I’ve definitely romanticized the continent at times. But, that has motivated me to visit & learn more 🙌🏾
Dr Asad and wife Smile will just brighten my day unprovoked.. Happy people.
Hope they get featured in the upcoming documentary
Dr. Assad, please continue to interview more AA who moved to S. A. Before all the latest hype. Moving to S.A is a goal of mine.
Thank you both so much for the all the information you provide.
Valerie Dickinson
Fayetteville, GA
Been in SA since 2000. Originally from NYC. Let me know if you have questions
Definitely more house parties in the early 2000’s a lot of RnB and kwaito. We had a slightly more competent government and our economy had steady growth. When we didn’t know what blackouts or load-shedding was
Thank you Dr with great interview. Please Dr can you interview a onwer of Capetown tigers ( basketball ) who is Mr Raphael Alexander Edward a African American. He also hired more African Americans basket players to play Cape town tigers.He Brought Zaire Wade to play for them.
Do you have his contact?
Love you guys ❤
Mandela once said sports bring people togther and that is great example in south africa from the 1994 CAf cup won by south african team Orlando Pirates in the african teams cup, to rugby world cup win and hosting in 1996 , cricket world cup hosting to the FIFA world cup created unity, pride and love amongst all south africans of all races.
Great video and I really like this type of content 👌
Great insight!
Hey Dr. Asad and Adrienne! Great video! Will there still be a meet up this Saturday? We will be in town.
Possibly!
Progress in SA can be measured by development on the N1 between Pretoria and Johannesburg. Open spaces have closed drastically!!!
Rosebank in the early 2000s was the Black vibe mecca. The Zone, what??!
Great interview it really helped me in terms of the negativity I have heard before visiting myself.
Thanks for the great content as always guys, Keep it up!!!!!
Great content
Another great vlog today 👊🏿
My only concern for RSA would be the social stability as the effects of apartheid are still present - and while there is a growing black middle class, I wonder if it is happening fast enough to prevent 'the pot from boiling over' - not to mention the unresolved land issue, etc
I am getting the sense that the non black RSA citizens are kind of self segregating themselves slowly with many Whites moving to the Western Cape/Cape Town area, Blacks in Gauteng/Joberg area, and Indians in Durban but I could be wrong about this; Though I do know of a couple of 'white only' towns with their own laws, own currency, etc which is crazy to me
Aside from that, I have concerns about general security as I am seeing shootings are become more frequent it seems. I would guess this ties in to my first point - middle class folks are not robbing people so we need to get more and more of us into economic comfort
All in all, I would recommend RSA to most African Americans as it provides the comforts they are used to in the West(via the best infrastructure on the continent) and very welcoming people who UNDERSTAND our history and our struggle and can relate because of apartheid - RSA folks are like our long lost cousins and we just click naturally when we get together.(and even more so than we click with West Africans strangely)
RSA is one of the youngest countries on Earth so I would tell others not to judge too harshly! I am learning Zulu and will be visiting soon as I own land in the Northern Cape
Believe SA people they got every right to choose were ever they live were they are comfortable, study the constitution you will know
Africa has 54 countries my guy maybe the 53 are more perfect than south africa
@@tebogomainole-qe8tn Maybe. I need to travel more to know for sure lol...I have about 51 to go!
@@tebogomainole-qe8tn haibo Tebogo 😳🙄
@@hleziphidhlamini1012 what
Great interview
Every time I hear you say, "bam, bam, bam! I think about Emeril the chef.
You need a sequel with her🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
I think the Rugby World Cup in 1995 was the perfect stage for Madiba to show the world his Rainbow Nation. He ahowef the world a winning nation and showed them that we're gonna be alright. The Fifa World cup was us showing the world that the Rainbow Nation was gonna be ok even after Madia.
What an interesting conversation 👍
I was here all along and I share different sentiments
Tell us
@@asadelmalikphd where do I even start 🤔. With democratic change becoming inevitable, a bunch of whites left the country, sold their properties in suburbs and a bunch of blacks were ready to buy. Where I lived even in Sandton back in 1997 blacks were all over the place as early as the mid nineties not only around 2010
True! What this lady is saying is not entirely true. We have e been going to restaurants since after 1990. She is clearly behaving like she is a"better black" . I want to caution. Pls don't behave like you are a "better black". We will reject you just like we embrace you . Ask The Zimbabweans!!!!
@@waipona940 we know the story more accurately. I suppose she needed to reflect a bit more
Someone experienced S.A. for 20 years and your perspective is the only correct one!?! The hubris of projecting your life experience on others is amazing.
Would be great to connect. I've been in SA for 23 years....originally from NYC.
Please send me an email asadelmalik@gmail.com I would love to talk
...hey Asad...l wanted to just comment about your kids that their accent will be South African cause they came here young...
I can't really disagree with her analysis of RSA during the early 2000's. At that time we were still finding our feet and hesitant to move to or explore previously white dominated areas.
I am from the USA and I married a woman from South Africa I visit several times and the country is must visit the culture and land is eye catching many things to do and places to go and it's cheaper than the US .,..alot of black people from the US don't want to visit cause they hear the negative info the untruth well I been and it's all good but everywhere has its pros and cons I even got married there
Asa y’all
Molo
We really regained our confidence between 2010 and 2017/2018, especially in the period from 2015 x 2017 when our government started talking about prioritising our development, and deserving poor students got free higher education. During that time government rhetoric was really about “it’s time now, black people need to move closer to the centre of all spheres of our country and society”.
The line of thinking did not last long before there was a counter, but black people had found their “groove” and have not looked back. They just became more “ungovernable”, meaning that they lost all fear, all residue of the effects of apartheid/colonisation and started owning spaces they gave a wide berth before. White people learned to hit the streets demonstrating for the very first rime, against the government. Lots of anti-racism forums popped up and a lot of discussion took place (and shut down as soon as the government got tamed). The needle had moved though.
Prior to this, outside of Cape Town and the Western Cape we were very much present in restaurants especially in Joburg, Durban long before the world cup and before 1994, but it was not a comfortable experience. The difference now is that more of us have disposable income, and white people have moved away and formed new enclaves as more and more of us found our way into the centre of life in South Africa. The “born-frees” have no hangups and will go wherever they set their sights on. Oh and the EFF happened too🙈
I think SA was at its peak during the Mbeki presidency, especially the 2nd term. AmaBEE were up, black CEOs, black fashion designers, black DGs, black professionals in general and we had the best Arts & culture minister ever. Tata was busy with his PR, massive industrialisation, low inflation, low unemployment...the works. We are yet to return to that glory
@@lebo5281 yes to an certain extent, but the majority of us were either spectators and just not even ready or equipped to participate.
It certainly was the glory days for white business, lots of doors opened and the black middle class started emerging(a deliberate project by the way, to squash black dissent and to increase the pool of consumers). It mostly had nothing to do with us, in the main. It was about their agenda and we were not centred in it. The comment above was a response to an opinion expressed in the video, and summarised how we got our groove, not which president was better. Mbeki had a tough job, he had to set up new institutions and enact a whole bunch of laws to facilitate the transition. He had to pay back loans wantonly taken out just before apartheid ended. He also had to contain us and ensure that the PR - reconciliation project stuck. Madiba did a lot for the Eastern Cape and integration of the country into the international sphere, he wasn’t just on a PR jaunt, although with hindsight we understand the breadth of what could have happened/been done/achieved, had he taken a different approach, or been free to do so.
We were still very much spectators and tolerated interlopers.
Do think deeper about it, coldly and forgetting which president you liked or disliked. Our first three had tough jobs but did a lot, and could not do quite a lot also. We wait now to see the post mortem on the current.
@baphithi The "Mbeki presidency" references a time, not president 1 vs 2. You can go back to that time to check the amount of deliberate policies and decisions we made to advance black development. The foundation was laid then and it was an exciting time to be a varsity student and watch it happen, from SONA, to budget speech, to the street.
Shalom Most High Bless, love you guys channel just wanted to know if its possible to set up a interview with you guys about is it safe to repatriate or not? Looking forward to speaking with you guys soon.
Sure. Asadelmalik@gmail.com
Thanks we will be in touch
Hahahahaha I knew Akeen through mutual friends of mine in Cape Town and Johanesburg. We used to get indie Hip-Hop from him. The interracial thing might not really take off like that because South African black people are generally only attracted to black people. Maybe the women will engage that way but again...small pockets.
I wish I could remember this guy's name an AA who's been in SA for 25yrs. He was presenting a workshop in 2018. He even told me a funny story that he lived in Durban and ended up marrying a Zulu princess🤣 but they divorced. Guy had stories for days even the fact that he nearly became a druggie in USA.
African Americans are living in south Africa are more than 10 000 as start saying are around 3% out of 500 000 .
South African American
The problem with our country is; we are still economically enslaved as hard as it is we have to have this conversation, we do not have land we do not own means of production but I am very hopeful because we as black South Africans are starting to have these conversations. I welcome and I know for sure many South Africans welcome African Americans and those in the Diaspora...