Stanz acts like Ticketmaster can’t buy more server power / backend support. Bro we are watch RUclips videos at the same time as like 2 billion people and there is NEVER a queue for a video.
It is all greed in the end, but being fair, it IS very expensive to buy servers for something that would last like 1-2 days. But the solutions they used are traaaash
The problem with ticketmaster saying "we didn't set the prices, the promoters did" is that the promoters are all affiliated with Live Nation, which is the company that owns ticketmaster so they kind of are the promoters. And Oasis very possibility didnt have any say in this as many venues have exclusivity deals with live nation promoters
this is the exact problem with the ticketmaster/live nation empire, they're literally a monopoly on live music and it's only going to keep getting worse unless the attempts to break up their merge actually work
@@LuciusEvolabut the price is only high because of live nation, and fans can't really do anything about it other than not go to a show. "What Ticketmaster Doesn't Want You To Know: Concerts Were Cheap For Decades" is a good video here on RUclips that delves deeper into the topics mentioned in this thread.
@@LuciusEvola Monopoly pricing isn't impacted by supply and demand in the same way as free market pricing, if you are in favour of a free market then this practice should be considered especially egregious
@@LuciusEvolaso if Oasis agrees to sell for $100, then TM sells the seats to themselves and resells as a Premium Verified Resale and jack the price up? Thats not Supply and Demand.
Holy fuck I am so grateful to be living in Japan. With tickets here there will be a window of a few days to enter the ticket lottery, and then the winners are randomly drawn from those entries and then pay. No queues, no server issues, nothing, just pop up your phone at some point within the window to apply. What an absolutely massive fucking waste of time this ticketmaster stuff is lmao
The whole situation to get tickets was an absolute mess, and definitely left a bad taste. £150 standing was already pricey for me for just standing, but raising it to over double after people have been queuing and crashing and getting kicked for bots for 4hrs just seems manipulative. The method for buying stadium tickets was also crazy. A live map of the seating plan. So you’re racing 300,000 people to zoom into tiny dots, that could end up being £460.
My genuine advice is do not, ever, use the seating map option. There is a menu option on the right-hand side where you can choose "best seats available", which despite the use of the word seats, will put standing at the top. All GA standing is the same, and so it's the quickest way to get the ticket without doing the tiny dots.
@@escherpainting8622 I was looking for the option to pick just “2 seats” like I normally do, but could not find it at all 😭 I’ll have to keep an eye out for that option next time I have to use Ticketmaster, thank you!
Paid £40 to see Oasis 15 years ago and I'd argue it wasn't worth that. Music was okay (they were backed up by The Enemy and Kasabian which made it bearable) but the crowd was rough as hell, chavs pissing in cups and yeeting it elsewhere in the crowd because they're too lazy to walk to a toilet. Absolute horror show.
Went to acdc in manchester, some guy tried tossing his drink into the crowd , he basically got told off to the point of almost brawling with the rest of the crowd and it didnt happen again but he was the exact person id imagine was at the concert u were at
I saw them on the last tour at Manchester. Worst gig I've ever been to. Kasabian were pretty good tbf. Oasis played rubbish, mainly Liam, obviously couldn't be arsed, the sound went off a few times and then it took literally hours to get out of the place surrounded by drunk scruffs chucking piss about. I like a rowdy gig, I'm way more into metal, but this was just full of scummy people doing what scummy people do best.
What's worse is actually Ticketmaster pockets the surcharge. They don't pay the actual artist a lot of the time and keep it a secret until you as an artist complains and they disable the "market price" option. So most likely Oaisis didn't even know about this option.
Oasis know exactly whats going on. They didn't wake up the morning the tickets were sold completely shocked at the pricing 😂 look at the ticket sales in Ireland with Ticketmasters "dynamic" pricing. The artist has to ok this method of selling beforehand. This is why Taylor Swift tickets stayed the same price the day of sale while Oasis tickets sky rocketed. These artists are huge teams of people running multimillion pound operations. They know exactly what Ticketmaster plan to do stop kidding yourself.
Ive work in concert promotion for the past 3 years. Let’s be clear: The promoter of the event (in this case, LiveNation who OWNS Ticketmaster) determines the ticket price for an event after some discussion with the Artist’s Agent / Manager. So Oasis’ could have deferred to LN / TM to make that decision, and just said yes cause LiveNation said it could help make everyone more money. Regardless, TM has been slowly becoming more and more predatory since I started in the entertainment industry about 9 years ago. While surge pricing is a great tool for smaller shows (it’s sometimes the only reason my company makes money on some performances), applying it to a large scale, 80,000 seat venue seems to be the wrong move 100% of the time. Don’t we all remember the Taylor Swift disaster LAST YEAR??
@@moresnqp It’s all good, I was just making another joke haha. The two are basically notorious for hating each other loads, so there’s a joke people have been making that they’ll have a fight and cancel the tour before it even starts.
@@tonaerionah if they really were that close to having a row they wouldn't be reuniting. i genuinely think they kissed and made up and liams recent tweets kinda proves that
It's funny Stanz brought up the Barenaked Ladies as a silly band that few people love because he seems like the exact kind of guy whose favorite band is Barenaked Ladies
Ironically Barenaked Ladies live (as a supporting act) is up there in my top 5 live concerts. One of the few bands who are better having a laugh with the audience than the studio stuff
They sold out, the scam worked, they ripped everybody off and unless a regulator comes in they'll get away with it. The whole "point at eachother" thing is deliberate. It's a fakeout. All parties - the artists, the promoter, ticketmaster, artist management, etc etc all worked together on pricing. It's not by accident - it's by design. And unless legislation is put in place to prevent price gouging, it'll only worsen.
@@devanman7920 there are millions more people wanting to go than will go. all of those millions of people will have to pay over the odds on the secondary markets. this would have been true if ticket master sold the tickets for 50p the fans willing to pay the most will end up going. this is how it should be, they value the tickets more
@@devanman7920 the number of people wanting to go is in the millions. the number of tickets available is in the thousands. the price of tickets is being bid up by the millions of people who want to go. they are not all rich. tickets have to be rationed. the best way of ensuring they go to the peope whi value them most is to allow the market to set the price
Whats shit is ticketmaster has no incentive to improve the website. They just need those tickets to sell, which they are guaranteed to do, and then later to resell for as much as possible. Having their site go down just leads to more publicity
I hate Oasis but they're my gf's favourite band, but we were 150,000th in the Oasis queue once we finally got past the Ticketmaster queue, and got errored out at 2pm when we finally got to the front, when we finally got in a second time there was about 8 tickets left around the stadium, and the only two left next to each other were £490 a ticket, so over 3x the face value. We also chose not to get them. Also the largest queue we saw when checking was the Ireland shows, 500k+ people in the queue
Oasis are excellent but are kind of infamous for cancelling shows which happened probably at least 30+ times from 1994-95 even if they do turn up hope they in the mood to actually play well and not take the piss
I came to the conclusion that it was Oasis’ management and team that set the price, with ticket masters approval. But if only ticket master had the extra £200, do you think it was just ticketmaster?
@@nameanteater4772 I can only assume that Seetickets just doesn't use dynamic pricing (yet...) I'm sure Ticketmaster suggested Dynamic Pricing to the band's team, but my understanding is that TM aren't allowed to use it unless they get the say so from the Artist
Im not british or interested in oasis and I still got served a reddit post about getting oasis tickets through refreshing seetickets. Worked for some didnt work for others in the thread. Bro was not in the right fan clubs
To make it clear how popular Oasis is in Great Britain, they are significantly more popular than Taylor Swift (39% prefer Oasis vs 26% prefer Taylor Swift). This is based on a nationally representative sample and conducted a few days before tickets went on sale. Only 20% of Oasis fans said they would be willing to pay more than £200 for a ticket, which I think speaks to the fact that the surge pricing is completely unethical and using marketing psychology to force people into paying more than they otherwise would have been willing to pay as mentioned in the video.
@@roystonsbailey While there were probably alot of people in the line there is lots of scalpers who use bots to mass-buy tickets soo they can scale the pricing after the tickets run out. Though with the 4 per household rule im not sure how the botfarms would have done it
Honeslty i think the main rrason for prices on qnything getting so high is because of ticketmaster and the monopoly they hold with live nation that means they can force anyone including massive artists to charge extortionate prices. Just look into the 90s when pearl jam were trying to fight this but had to eventually cave because of the power they already held by that time
To be so ignorant to think the artists aren’t 100% in on the scam is really something. Easy to point fingers at big bad Ticketmaster and they’ll happily take the blame and everyone will get rich.
I was 27000+ in the queue, 2 hour wait, got on the ticket buying page, nothing worked, not a single ticket option was working, it errored every-time. 45 mins of trying, then got timed out to back of queue which as 300000+ . Hahaha. What i found annoying was someone from work queued 5 hours for the same concert and got 4 tickets! Its hilarious tbh.
I went and saw Wicked with my dad and brother once, my father accidentally bought handicap seating and other than some mean looks from the ushers it was great, we had the best seats I’ve ever had at a show
This happened during the presale for Rage Against the Machine a few years ago. I got into the que just to see prices . Main floor standing was surging to 750+ , normal price was 110 . This was for Oakland CA . The shows never happened .
I work in south Manchester and people have been obsessing over tickets in the office. I'm from Yorkshire so don't have the ingrained Oasis love. It's like witnessing mass hysteria seeing how much people care about these two goons
10:55 I literally waited 3 hours to get to the front of the queue, had the tickets selected then had another hour of errors before getting sent to the back of the queue so it was a pretty awful time
Oasis are not scamming people, the band isnt even involved with what happened. Ticketmaster having a monopoly (or rather LiveNation) on ticket sales is the issue, which is why now both the US and UK are taking the company to court.
There was no scam. Video is clickbait. Maybe you could say that TM was immoral to implement the dynamic pricing, but definitely not a scam. At the end of the day, all tickets were sold at whatever price was asked. Just because it seems expensive to one person, there’s plenty of others who are clearly willing to pay more. So why shouldn’t they maximise their revenue? If the demand wasn’t there, the high price wouldn’t be there.
I personally think the concept is fine. Why should ticket tout nonces make more money out of a band than the band themselves? Besides, you go through the same process every time you buy a flight.
As someone who works live events like this the pricing is all due to the band/promoter, they signed up to use the dynamic pricing, as much as I hate Ticketmaster the only thing they can be blamed for here is the shitty service. Just seen the ending and yeah its most likely the promoters that caused the price hike
It's crazy how me getting my Tswift tickets was actually not this bad. Yeah ticketmaster did crash and stopped the queue for 5 hours but I ended up buying pretty decent seats for my friends and family and didn't have error messages pop up
This is why I've never bothered going to a concert, either you're paying exorbitant prices for a ticket, if you go to the secondary market you either have to pay double if not more and even then you stand the risk of buying a counterfeit ticket either way you're getting screwed over.
7:29 managed to get mine from Scotland gigs and tours, had about 10 different phones in different queues and that was the only one that made it through at about 4pm after waiting since the start
24:18 Just wait for it, won't be long before they will do this everywhere including the supermarket. Have prices listed using e-ink tags linked to a central computer which adjust the price according to demand, supply and individual customer.
my family like them. So i got up on the saturday and got in a queue. It didn't say how many people were in it but it took 5 hrs to get to the end of that queue, It then put me in the actual queue to buy tickets from ticket master and the queue was 257893 long. It took another 2 hrs to get to the front of the queue and it was my turn to buy tickets for christmas gifts for family members. Just as it took me to the page to buy, It said i was inactive and threw me out to the beginning again. I was so pissed off. I went and watched a movie then when i came back i was at the end of the queue again. I tried buying tickets but they had all sold out. It's so annoying that stubhub i think its called, Is selling them in masses for so much money that the average person can not buy them. I thought you could only buy 4 tickets. They have thousands of them. I will keep looking for resale at cost price but won't buy overpriced tickets.
Yeah he doesn't talk about it at all other than the passing remark on stream lol. Tried it out a while back and wasn't for me at all lol ( I think I'm a caanths hater)
When I go to WWE I get accessible tickets because my mum has a disability but when you get there they don't really ask you about it, you basically sit on a platform ( depending on the venue ) that's a bit higher than the seats in front of you ( so wheelchair users can obviously see )
I queued for 6 hours 300,000th in the queue got kicked out several times to get through and see the £355 in demand ticket. Dynamic pricing is bullshit. Never got tickets, I did the ballot for the extra Wembley dates and didn’t get selected but I got Linkin Park tickets so I don’t care about Oasis now
investigated for scaling prices to demand? What awful country would mandate a private band and a private company to forcefully provide a Human service at a set price regardless of demand?
I'm a BTS ARMY from the UK, and our ARMY from all over the world has been shouting about this for years! It can be an absolute bloodbath. Unfortunately, no one has listened to us, and we end up shouting into a deep void! Our only saving grace is ARMY's who get in will buy the maximum amount at face value. We then resell to those ARMY that missed out at face value. Live Nation own Ticket Master, and they get the deals and the monopoly for all venues.
I had a ticket for their historic Knebworth gig back in the day (showin' my age), back when you had to wag school and man the landline with fingers crossed to get tickets. it was £26 IIRC
No one gets it. I don’t get it… why so many people would want to see a pack of talentless beatle clones regurgitate another set of old tired knockoff tunes.. boggles my mind
It wasn’t a scam on oasis’ part, it’s a scam on Ticketmaster’s part. Now I’m an oasis fan and I got the tickets but I’m trying to give you my input since this is close to me. It was the fact that the so called ‘dynamic pricing’ was implemented halfway during ticket sales on Ticketmaster’s part.. not to mention the fact that everyone was trying to access the website at once and their server’s couldn’t handle it and it constantly crashed. The oasis social media accounts handled it quite well I’d say.
it's funny people are talking about the ticket prices and all of ticketmaster's shady stuff but kpop stans have BEEN trying to talk about it and bring light to it but people have brushed it off
Just to confirm that See Tickets did have tickets because my sister got some from there at original price. Meanwhile I didn't get through the Ticketmaster queue until the price hike happened and I gave up.
Also as someone who qualifies for accessible tickets, you can't fake it to get them. You have to provide Ticketmaster with evidence of you receiving disability benefit (Personal Independence Payment) to qualify for them. And even though it said you could get two of them, it just said that as default. If you then tried to add them to your basket you got a message saying there were none available.
Uncle had tickets in cart then got kicked, also it started at 8 am in Ireland as well and I imagine that's why there was a que to get on the website for the UK.
I had to abandon the queue with only 92000 people in front of me because after that many hours I just needed to go to work. Absolutely diabolical. Ticketmaster needs to be nationalized. What's the Story is one of my fav albums, I would have loved to go.
Err? "Nationalise ticketmaster because I cant wait for tickets!!!" You do realise tickets to see Oasis are not a human right and that you are purchasing a highly in demand ticket to see somebody perform a service they have agreed to because they are getting paid for it. Ticketmaster sees this and sees the demand and rightfully increases the Price as if there is high demand for a product it becomes innately more valuable.
@@LuciusEvola okay, obviously nationalise ticketmaster was a joke, if you're familiar with them, but I also don't think it's odd to expect fair consumer practises where customers get swindled at the till point after hours of waiting to buy the worst ticket in the house for 500 quid. It's something Oasis should definitely understand if they take a second to remember their working class roots. Poor people actually do deserve to also go to concerts, even high demand ones.
@@littlemissmello I do not think anything is deserved. Quite a lot of things we have are luxuries built upon the works of our ancestors and us now. I do not think that ticketmaster should be regulated and forced to sell something below demand and supply value however I would agree that Ticketmaster should have updated and made people aware beforehand that the price of tickets are increasing due to demand. Also sorry for taking your nationalisation joke seriously but their are a lot of people who unironically things like that.
Its crazy this happened for oasis and everyone lost their shit. The exact same thing happened with taylor swift with worse pricing and no one batted an eyelid 😂😂
I got on the Cardiff countdown page 4 days early and let it run in the background. Was thrown into the queue at 08:20 and got given position 2,400 I managed 4 tickets for both dates
So many errors in the history of the band in this vid. Noel joined the band started by Liam and the others. Also, not ALL British people loved Oasis but I do. Big Oasis fan back in the 90s, they lost their steam in the 00’s (for many reasons) now they have bills to pay. I hope the original 3 are invited back and they can pay their bills too. I’d hope for a good new album to justify the reformation not that I could ever afford even the cheapest tickets.
ticketmaster look after ticketing, the other aholes t nation or live nation or whatever they're called look after event management and promotion (so queuing up the artists, logistics, event booking, traffic coordination, vendor supplying etc etc). ticketmaster ONLY look after ticketing, that's their schtick and just add fees on constantly. The other group whatever their called basically vice your balls on pricing to drive it up the rest of the way for venue booking etc. in fact if i remember, the promoters are the reason why we drive such concerts to massive venues now and not to local venues, massive venues cost more, sell more etc so they love promoting those over smaller venues
Now I'm not a real fan of any big musicians but I cannot see paying £1000 to hear a worse version of a song you like and watch the artist from half a stadium away. I can maybe understand around £100 though I'd personally rather see a more visually interesting show like cirque du soleil than a singer. The number of people I know that went to see taylor swift while still in their overdraft is crazy to me.
I thought there was laws and regulations in the UK to cap the possible price of the face value price. Like in Football, you can’t charge more than roughly £30 for a normal ticket (don’t know if this is only applied to away tickets)
Live Nation is probably the event organizer and promoter, and Live Nation owns Ticketmaster, so the scam here is being on both sides of the deal bargaining with yourself and hoping courts don't break up the monopoly.
There are great bands playing in small venues in every town and city near you that you maybe pay £10 to see and every one consists of better musicians than Oasis. Ticket master will never get a penny/cent from me.
So i'm a minute into the video, and Oasis being a 'one-hit wonder' *IS NOT A CONVERSATION!* I'm speaking as someone who was (1) alive during the mid 90's, and (2) listening to rock music during that time. I can name you 3 songs off the top of my head that are better than _Wonderwall_ and I'm guessing most people listening to pop-rock music during that period could also name you multiple great Oasis songs they like. Their first 3 albums each went platinum, and each sold over 10,000,000 copies. Their second and third albums were top 5 on the U.S. billboards, and all 3 went to #1 on the UK charts. One-hit wonders come from a band/artist which was not known by the public; Oasis was already popular before they released _Wonderwall_ (I was a young kid living in a rural town, and I remember purchasing _Definitely Maybe_ in 1995).
Im praying on ticketmasters downfall. Idk shit abt oasis but i wanted to buy tickets for sabrina carpenters upcoming tour esp since im a big fan of her opener but the cheapest tickets i could find were like $200 for nosebleeds n theres no world where thats worth it.
Iirc ticket master has a tick box that starts ticked for surge pricing with the intent of it being missed by the event organizer. Oasis may be acting in bad faith and have been completely fine with surge pricing, but ticket master 100% tries to trick organizers into surge pricing regardless.
"that's what i'm saying!" to a clip of yourself talking is so good
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That’s what I’m saying!
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That’s what I’m saying!
Stanz acts like Ticketmaster can’t buy more server power / backend support. Bro we are watch RUclips videos at the same time as like 2 billion people and there is NEVER a queue for a video.
True good point lol
It is all greed in the end, but being fair, it IS very expensive to buy servers for something that would last like 1-2 days. But the solutions they used are traaaash
@@1Henrinkshut up no it’s not. stop speaking out of your ass
@@1HenrinkMicrosoft Azure is priced by the hour
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This isnt somethint that only happens for 1-2 days, ticket master is constantly dealing with these issues.
The problem with ticketmaster saying "we didn't set the prices, the promoters did" is that the promoters are all affiliated with Live Nation, which is the company that owns ticketmaster so they kind of are the promoters. And Oasis very possibility didnt have any say in this as many venues have exclusivity deals with live nation promoters
this is the exact problem with the ticketmaster/live nation empire, they're literally a monopoly on live music and it's only going to keep getting worse unless the attempts to break up their merge actually work
Supply and Demand. Oasis tickets aren't a human right they are a commodity and if there is high demand the price scales.
@@LuciusEvolabut the price is only high because of live nation, and fans can't really do anything about it other than not go to a show. "What Ticketmaster Doesn't Want You To Know: Concerts Were Cheap For Decades" is a good video here on RUclips that delves deeper into the topics mentioned in this thread.
@@LuciusEvola Monopoly pricing isn't impacted by supply and demand in the same way as free market pricing, if you are in favour of a free market then this practice should be considered especially egregious
@@LuciusEvolaso if Oasis agrees to sell for $100, then TM sells the seats to themselves and resells as a Premium Verified Resale and jack the price up? Thats not Supply and Demand.
Holy fuck I am so grateful to be living in Japan. With tickets here there will be a window of a few days to enter the ticket lottery, and then the winners are randomly drawn from those entries and then pay. No queues, no server issues, nothing, just pop up your phone at some point within the window to apply. What an absolutely massive fucking waste of time this ticketmaster stuff is lmao
The whole situation to get tickets was an absolute mess, and definitely left a bad taste.
£150 standing was already pricey for me for just standing, but raising it to over double after people have been queuing and crashing and getting kicked for bots for 4hrs just seems manipulative.
The method for buying stadium tickets was also crazy. A live map of the seating plan. So you’re racing 300,000 people to zoom into tiny dots, that could end up being £460.
My genuine advice is do not, ever, use the seating map option. There is a menu option on the right-hand side where you can choose "best seats available", which despite the use of the word seats, will put standing at the top. All GA standing is the same, and so it's the quickest way to get the ticket without doing the tiny dots.
@@escherpainting8622 I was looking for the option to pick just “2 seats” like I normally do, but could not find it at all 😭
I’ll have to keep an eye out for that option next time I have to use Ticketmaster, thank you!
@@escherpainting8622it’s unfortunate but this is not always available for every concert
Who cares about your taste
@@escherpainting8622This wasn’t applicable for some of the events.
Paid £40 to see Oasis 15 years ago and I'd argue it wasn't worth that. Music was okay (they were backed up by The Enemy and Kasabian which made it bearable) but the crowd was rough as hell, chavs pissing in cups and yeeting it elsewhere in the crowd because they're too lazy to walk to a toilet. Absolute horror show.
That was the last set of dates they did together Wembley was it not
Went to acdc in manchester, some guy tried tossing his drink into the crowd , he basically got told off to the point of almost brawling with the rest of the crowd and it didnt happen again but he was the exact person id imagine was at the concert u were at
I worked at Wembley during their height, and it was the exact same story.
The 2000s wasn't exactly the best period for Oasis apart from Wembley 2000
I saw them on the last tour at Manchester. Worst gig I've ever been to. Kasabian were pretty good tbf. Oasis played rubbish, mainly Liam, obviously couldn't be arsed, the sound went off a few times and then it took literally hours to get out of the place surrounded by drunk scruffs chucking piss about. I like a rowdy gig, I'm way more into metal, but this was just full of scummy people doing what scummy people do best.
What's worse is actually Ticketmaster pockets the surcharge. They don't pay the actual artist a lot of the time and keep it a secret until you as an artist complains and they disable the "market price" option. So most likely Oaisis didn't even know about this option.
Oasis know exactly whats going on. They didn't wake up the morning the tickets were sold completely shocked at the pricing 😂 look at the ticket sales in Ireland with Ticketmasters "dynamic" pricing. The artist has to ok this method of selling beforehand. This is why Taylor Swift tickets stayed the same price the day of sale while Oasis tickets sky rocketed. These artists are huge teams of people running multimillion pound operations. They know exactly what Ticketmaster plan to do stop kidding yourself.
If I was an Oasis stan, I wouldn't call myself an O-head, I'd call myself an Oacist
I'd call the Samaritans.
As long as you're confident with how you usually pronounce your 'r's.
The whole this is an Oacyst
Nah, it's the biblical lads, obviously.
Ive work in concert promotion for the past 3 years. Let’s be clear:
The promoter of the event (in this case, LiveNation who OWNS Ticketmaster) determines the ticket price for an event after some discussion with the Artist’s Agent / Manager. So Oasis’ could have deferred to LN / TM to make that decision, and just said yes cause LiveNation said it could help make everyone more money.
Regardless, TM has been slowly becoming more and more predatory since I started in the entertainment industry about 9 years ago. While surge pricing is a great tool for smaller shows (it’s sometimes the only reason my company makes money on some performances), applying it to a large scale, 80,000 seat venue seems to be the wrong move 100% of the time. Don’t we all remember the Taylor Swift disaster LAST YEAR??
Ah Yes we as Swifties refer to it as "The Ticketmaster Gteat War..."
the best ending to this is one of the Gallaghers getting the flu real bad and half the tour is cut
this is why i got the first night ;)
I don’t think we will need the flu if I’m honest for that to happen, knowing their track record lmao
@@tonaerio im an Australian 18 year old i honestly don't know shit about Oasis besides their big songs and them dressing like they do
@@moresnqp It’s all good, I was just making another joke haha. The two are basically notorious for hating each other loads, so there’s a joke people have been making that they’ll have a fight and cancel the tour before it even starts.
@@tonaerionah if they really were that close to having a row they wouldn't be reuniting. i genuinely think they kissed and made up and liams recent tweets kinda proves that
It's funny Stanz brought up the Barenaked Ladies as a silly band that few people love because he seems like the exact kind of guy whose favorite band is Barenaked Ladies
He said he likes them during that rant
Ironically Barenaked Ladies live (as a supporting act) is up there in my top 5 live concerts. One of the few bands who are better having a laugh with the audience than the studio stuff
They sold out, the scam worked, they ripped everybody off and unless a regulator comes in they'll get away with it. The whole "point at eachother" thing is deliberate. It's a fakeout. All parties - the artists, the promoter, ticketmaster, artist management, etc etc all worked together on pricing. It's not by accident - it's by design. And unless legislation is put in place to prevent price gouging, it'll only worsen.
the market set the price.
the tickets should go to those who value them the most.
@@alansouthall8221 So just price out regular people? You want to start doing this with everything.
Exactly. Oasis, their team, their manager etc have planned this with Ticketmaster. Can't understand why people think they haven't.
@@devanman7920 there are millions more people wanting to go than will go.
all of those millions of people will have to pay over the odds on the secondary markets.
this would have been true if ticket master sold the tickets for 50p
the fans willing to pay the most will end up going.
this is how it should be, they value the tickets more
@@devanman7920 the number of people wanting to go is in the millions.
the number of tickets available is in the thousands.
the price of tickets is being bid up by the millions of people who want to go.
they are not all rich.
tickets have to be rationed.
the best way of ensuring they go to the peope whi value them most is to allow the market to set the price
Whats shit is ticketmaster has no incentive to improve the website. They just need those tickets to sell, which they are guaranteed to do, and then later to resell for as much as possible. Having their site go down just leads to more publicity
@Kirovxx when your reply is wholly irrelevant to the initial comment, it gives you away for spamming..
28:38 you KNOW its serious when the British guy actually shows his face 😅
he has a name
Oasis? More like mirage...
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What's mad is they said they introduce surge pricing to reduce ticket touting... Bro they've just become the touts themselves.
I hate Oasis but they're my gf's favourite band, but we were 150,000th in the Oasis queue once we finally got past the Ticketmaster queue, and got errored out at 2pm when we finally got to the front, when we finally got in a second time there was about 8 tickets left around the stadium, and the only two left next to each other were £490 a ticket, so over 3x the face value.
We also chose not to get them.
Also the largest queue we saw when checking was the Ireland shows, 500k+ people in the queue
Supply and Demand. Oasis tickets aren't a human right they are a commodity and if there is high demand the price scales.
@@LuciusEvola Perhaps you should brush up a bit on consumer rights.
Oasis are excellent but are kind of infamous for cancelling shows which happened probably at least 30+ times from 1994-95 even if they do turn up hope they in the mood to actually play well and not take the piss
Not to rub salt in Caanths' wounds, but I got tickets through Seetickets at 3pm (and they weren't dynamically priced)
I came to the conclusion that it was Oasis’ management and team that set the price, with ticket masters approval. But if only ticket master had the extra £200, do you think it was just ticketmaster?
@@nameanteater4772 I can only assume that Seetickets just doesn't use dynamic pricing (yet...)
I'm sure Ticketmaster suggested Dynamic Pricing to the band's team, but my understanding is that TM aren't allowed to use it unless they get the say so from the Artist
Im not british or interested in oasis and I still got served a reddit post about getting oasis tickets through refreshing seetickets. Worked for some didnt work for others in the thread. Bro was not in the right fan clubs
Got mine at 10:30am from Ticketmaster.
To make it clear how popular Oasis is in Great Britain, they are significantly more popular than Taylor Swift (39% prefer Oasis vs 26% prefer Taylor Swift). This is based on a nationally representative sample and conducted a few days before tickets went on sale. Only 20% of Oasis fans said they would be willing to pay more than £200 for a ticket, which I think speaks to the fact that the surge pricing is completely unethical and using marketing psychology to force people into paying more than they otherwise would have been willing to pay as mentioned in the video.
I've gotta be stanz pilled, because i actually read this as "The Oasis Taskmaster Scam..."
As someone who understands proxies and bot farms, 360k is not an accurate representation of actual people in a queue
Why?
@@roystonsbailey While there were probably alot of people in the line there is lots of scalpers who use bots to mass-buy tickets soo they can scale the pricing after the tickets run out. Though with the 4 per household rule im not sure how the botfarms would have done it
Hey, FYI twickets has invesment from the Oasis management (Ignition). So they have the secondary market to themselves as well.
Honeslty i think the main rrason for prices on qnything getting so high is because of ticketmaster and the monopoly they hold with live nation that means they can force anyone including massive artists to charge extortionate prices. Just look into the 90s when pearl jam were trying to fight this but had to eventually cave because of the power they already held by that time
To be so ignorant to think the artists aren’t 100% in on the scam is really something.
Easy to point fingers at big bad Ticketmaster and they’ll happily take the blame and everyone will get rich.
I was 27000+ in the queue, 2 hour wait, got on the ticket buying page, nothing worked, not a single ticket option was working, it errored every-time. 45 mins of trying, then got timed out to back of queue which as 300000+ . Hahaha. What i found annoying was someone from work queued 5 hours for the same concert and got 4 tickets! Its hilarious tbh.
It sounds like ticket master’s flow is a queue, to get to a lobby, to get to a waiting room, to get to a queue 😅
"Cause after all, youre my paywall!" 🎶
All concert tickets are pre-sale, pretty much.
I went and saw Wicked with my dad and brother once, my father accidentally bought handicap seating and other than some mean looks from the ushers it was great, we had the best seats I’ve ever had at a show
This happened during the presale for Rage Against the Machine a few years ago. I got into the que just to see prices . Main floor standing was surging to 750+ , normal price was 110 . This was for Oakland CA . The shows never happened .
I work in south Manchester and people have been obsessing over tickets in the office. I'm from Yorkshire so don't have the ingrained Oasis love. It's like witnessing mass hysteria seeing how much people care about these two goons
10:55 I literally waited 3 hours to get to the front of the queue, had the tickets selected then had another hour of errors before getting sent to the back of the queue so it was a pretty awful time
Just remember caanths...don't look back in anger...
Oasis are not scamming people, the band isnt even involved with what happened. Ticketmaster having a monopoly (or rather LiveNation) on ticket sales is the issue, which is why now both the US and UK are taking the company to court.
The 325k is for croke park in Ireland, one date one venue
I was 452k in the que for croke park at one point
My best case scenario is that the fuckers break up again before their fucking tour starts
im british and ive always hated oasis, so watching all this transpire from afar was so funny
Stanz, as a brit who recently went to a bare naked ladies concert!! Put some respect on their name
Damn that pizza behind you looks real great
There was no scam. Video is clickbait. Maybe you could say that TM was immoral to implement the dynamic pricing, but definitely not a scam. At the end of the day, all tickets were sold at whatever price was asked. Just because it seems expensive to one person, there’s plenty of others who are clearly willing to pay more. So why shouldn’t they maximise their revenue? If the demand wasn’t there, the high price wouldn’t be there.
I couldn't agree more.
I personally think the concept is fine. Why should ticket tout nonces make more money out of a band than the band themselves? Besides, you go through the same process every time you buy a flight.
Crazy he went through all of this just to listen to the bands 1 and only song
Digsy's dinner
What the fuck how have you and caanths had a podcast for a whole year and this is the first I’m hearing about it
Love caanths, he always brings the best of staniel michael stanz
Oasis has never been a one hit wonder
To be fair, if you think they are a one hit wonder, you've never sat and listened through an album
As someone who works live events like this the pricing is all due to the band/promoter, they signed up to use the dynamic pricing, as much as I hate Ticketmaster the only thing they can be blamed for here is the shitty service.
Just seen the ending and yeah its most likely the promoters that caused the price hike
it’s not a scam. shady. but not a scam
It's crazy how me getting my Tswift tickets was actually not this bad. Yeah ticketmaster did crash and stopped the queue for 5 hours but I ended up buying pretty decent seats for my friends and family and didn't have error messages pop up
you're one of the few then LMAO
I spent my whole Saturday trying to get tickets for my parents, never touching ticket master again 😭
Unfortunately, that probably means you’re never going to a concert again.
This is why I've never bothered going to a concert, either you're paying exorbitant prices for a ticket, if you go to the secondary market you either have to pay double if not more and even then you stand the risk of buying a counterfeit ticket either way you're getting screwed over.
28:06 I went in and gave waggy81's 2017 tweet a cheeky like.
7:29 managed to get mine from Scotland gigs and tours, had about 10 different phones in different queues and that was the only one that made it through at about 4pm after waiting since the start
So glad I got mine on the pre sale- zero stress and ended up getting premium tickets for less than people paid for normal standing on the Saturday
24:18 Just wait for it, won't be long before they will do this everywhere including the supermarket. Have prices listed using e-ink tags linked to a central computer which adjust the price according to demand, supply and individual customer.
My mum checked the queue for a laugh and was 286,000 in queue 😂
my family like them. So i got up on the saturday and got in a queue. It didn't say how many people were in it but it took 5 hrs to get to the end of that queue, It then put me in the actual queue to buy tickets from ticket master and the queue was 257893 long. It took another 2 hrs to get to the front of the queue and it was my turn to buy tickets for christmas gifts for family members. Just as it took me to the page to buy, It said i was inactive and threw me out to the beginning again. I was so pissed off. I went and watched a movie then when i came back i was at the end of the queue again. I tried buying tickets but they had all sold out. It's so annoying that stubhub i think its called, Is selling them in masses for so much money that the average person can not buy them. I thought you could only buy 4 tickets. They have thousands of them. I will keep looking for resale at cost price but won't buy overpriced tickets.
This is the first I've heard that Stanz has a podcast 😂
Yeah he doesn't talk about it at all other than the passing remark on stream lol. Tried it out a while back and wasn't for me at all lol ( I think I'm a caanths hater)
When I go to WWE I get accessible tickets because my mum has a disability but when you get there they don't really ask you about it, you basically sit on a platform ( depending on the venue ) that's a bit higher than the seats in front of you ( so wheelchair users can obviously see )
I queued for 6 hours 300,000th in the queue got kicked out several times to get through and see the £355 in demand ticket. Dynamic pricing is bullshit. Never got tickets, I did the ballot for the extra Wembley dates and didn’t get selected but I got Linkin Park tickets so I don’t care about Oasis now
It’s not even Oasis is it . Just a brotherly reunion.
I might be hungry because all I can think is "mmmm that looks like a yummy giant slice of pizza behind him..."
Confirmed today Ticketmaster are being investigated 🙏🏼
investigated for scaling prices to demand? What awful country would mandate a private band and a private company to forcefully provide a Human service at a set price regardless of demand?
I'm a BTS ARMY from the UK, and our ARMY from all over the world has been shouting about this for years! It can be an absolute bloodbath.
Unfortunately, no one has listened to us, and we end up shouting into a deep void!
Our only saving grace is ARMY's who get in will buy the maximum amount at face value. We then resell to those ARMY that missed out at face value.
Live Nation own Ticket Master, and they get the deals and the monopoly for all venues.
I had a ticket for their historic Knebworth gig back in the day (showin' my age), back when you had to wag school and man the landline with fingers crossed to get tickets. it was £26 IIRC
That's what you get for being into brit pop when rave music was popping off in the uk
Aphex twin pisses on oasis
No one gets it. I don’t get it… why so many people would want to see a pack of talentless beatle clones regurgitate another set of old tired knockoff tunes.. boggles my mind
It wasn’t a scam on oasis’ part, it’s a scam on Ticketmaster’s part. Now I’m an oasis fan and I got the tickets but I’m trying to give you my input since this is close to me. It was the fact that the so called ‘dynamic pricing’ was implemented halfway during ticket sales on Ticketmaster’s part.. not to mention the fact that everyone was trying to access the website at once and their server’s couldn’t handle it and it constantly crashed. The oasis social media accounts handled it quite well I’d say.
it's funny people are talking about the ticket prices and all of ticketmaster's shady stuff but kpop stans have BEEN trying to talk about it and bring light to it but people have brushed it off
this tour will not last more than 2 gigs
Just to confirm that See Tickets did have tickets because my sister got some from there at original price. Meanwhile I didn't get through the Ticketmaster queue until the price hike happened and I gave up.
Also as someone who qualifies for accessible tickets, you can't fake it to get them. You have to provide Ticketmaster with evidence of you receiving disability benefit (Personal Independence Payment) to qualify for them. And even though it said you could get two of them, it just said that as default. If you then tried to add them to your basket you got a message saying there were none available.
Imagine being designated as disabled by Ticketmaster
If they actually play together again I would be surprised
I would never pay these current ticket prices
The Amazon pages for mobility canes and assistance dog harnesses must have also been crashing..
Uncle had tickets in cart then got kicked, also it started at 8 am in Ireland as well and I imagine that's why there was a que to get on the website for the UK.
I had to abandon the queue with only 92000 people in front of me because after that many hours I just needed to go to work.
Absolutely diabolical. Ticketmaster needs to be nationalized.
What's the Story is one of my fav albums, I would have loved to go.
Err? "Nationalise ticketmaster because I cant wait for tickets!!!" You do realise tickets to see Oasis are not a human right and that you are purchasing a highly in demand ticket to see somebody perform a service they have agreed to because they are getting paid for it. Ticketmaster sees this and sees the demand and rightfully increases the Price as if there is high demand for a product it becomes innately more valuable.
@@LuciusEvola okay, obviously nationalise ticketmaster was a joke, if you're familiar with them, but I also don't think it's odd to expect fair consumer practises where customers get swindled at the till point after hours of waiting to buy the worst ticket in the house for 500 quid. It's something Oasis should definitely understand if they take a second to remember their working class roots. Poor people actually do deserve to also go to concerts, even high demand ones.
@@littlemissmello I do not think anything is deserved. Quite a lot of things we have are luxuries built upon the works of our ancestors and us now. I do not think that ticketmaster should be regulated and forced to sell something below demand and supply value however I would agree that Ticketmaster should have updated and made people aware beforehand that the price of tickets are increasing due to demand.
Also sorry for taking your nationalisation joke seriously but their are a lot of people who unironically things like that.
@@LuciusEvola so what makes rich people deserve tickets?
Its crazy this happened for oasis and everyone lost their shit.
The exact same thing happened with taylor swift with worse pricing and no one batted an eyelid 😂😂
I got on the Cardiff countdown page 4 days early and let it run in the background. Was thrown into the queue at 08:20 and got given position 2,400 I managed 4 tickets for both dates
When I got in at 11am, standing tickets werent available, but got hospitality tickets for £216
So many errors in the history of the band in this vid. Noel joined the band started by Liam and the others. Also, not ALL British people loved Oasis but I do.
Big Oasis fan back in the 90s, they lost their steam in the 00’s (for many reasons) now they have bills to pay. I hope the original 3 are invited back and they can pay their bills too.
I’d hope for a good new album to justify the reformation not that I could ever afford even the cheapest tickets.
ticketmaster look after ticketing, the other aholes t nation or live nation or whatever they're called look after event management and promotion (so queuing up the artists, logistics, event booking, traffic coordination, vendor supplying etc etc). ticketmaster ONLY look after ticketing, that's their schtick and just add fees on constantly. The other group whatever their called basically vice your balls on pricing to drive it up the rest of the way for venue booking etc. in fact if i remember, the promoters are the reason why we drive such concerts to massive venues now and not to local venues, massive venues cost more, sell more etc so they love promoting those over smaller venues
bnl is crazy, canadian i got tickets its like if the beatles reformed and john lennon never died
the beatles if the beatles accidentally did crystal and fucked up live on ed sullivan and never broke America the same way
Now I'm not a real fan of any big musicians but I cannot see paying £1000 to hear a worse version of a song you like and watch the artist from half a stadium away. I can maybe understand around £100 though I'd personally rather see a more visually interesting show like cirque du soleil than a singer.
The number of people I know that went to see taylor swift while still in their overdraft is crazy to me.
I don't even want tickets now, 12 hours of queueing on ticketmaster left me very sour.
I'm pretty happy that Ticketmaster doesn't have monopoly where I live
I thought there was laws and regulations in the UK to cap the possible price of the face value price. Like in Football, you can’t charge more than roughly £30 for a normal ticket (don’t know if this is only applied to away tickets)
crazy how I only knew one noell gallagher song and it's from assassin's creed syndicate's cinematic trailer lmao
Live Nation is probably the event organizer and promoter, and Live Nation owns Ticketmaster, so the scam here is being on both sides of the deal bargaining with yourself and hoping courts don't break up the monopoly.
So sad now because my dad and brother got tickets and I’d feel so bad if it’s awful but ngl I’m literally shook
There are great bands playing in small venues in every town and city near you that you maybe pay £10 to see and every one consists of better musicians than Oasis. Ticket master will never get a penny/cent from me.
Oasis are complicit and want more of your money
Yes,and no one was forced to buy them and they should charge what they're worth.
The blanket in the background looks like pizza and now i want pizza
So i'm a minute into the video, and Oasis being a 'one-hit wonder' *IS NOT A CONVERSATION!* I'm speaking as someone who was (1) alive during the mid 90's, and (2) listening to rock music during that time. I can name you 3 songs off the top of my head that are better than _Wonderwall_ and I'm guessing most people listening to pop-rock music during that period could also name you multiple great Oasis songs they like. Their first 3 albums each went platinum, and each sold over 10,000,000 copies. Their second and third albums were top 5 on the U.S. billboards, and all 3 went to #1 on the UK charts. One-hit wonders come from a band/artist which was not known by the public; Oasis was already popular before they released _Wonderwall_ (I was a young kid living in a rural town, and I remember purchasing _Definitely Maybe_ in 1995).
I remember having to travel to the venue to buy tickets in person!
Im praying on ticketmasters downfall. Idk shit abt oasis but i wanted to buy tickets for sabrina carpenters upcoming tour esp since im a big fan of her opener but the cheapest tickets i could find were like $200 for nosebleeds n theres no world where thats worth it.
Ticketmaster has been at this for a couple of years now. Legalised touting!!!
I’ve noticed that live performances/shows are much more popular in the UK compared to places like the US
how so??
Iirc ticket master has a tick box that starts ticked for surge pricing with the intent of it being missed by the event organizer. Oasis may be acting in bad faith and have been completely fine with surge pricing, but ticket master 100% tries to trick organizers into surge pricing regardless.
To say that all of the UK love Oasis is way over the top. They are and always have been garbage with only one decent album.