The more reviews come out for the Steam Deck, the more I'm absolutely excited for it. This system is something that just really interests me more than the current consoles out right now. It's the just the open aspect of the system that appeals to me.
@@aplayz752 I have a 3060 TI and I definitely agree. It's just that the idea of having a compact system when I have to go out is so appealing because I have a ton of smaller games in my library I want to get around to.
I have the steam deck and it’s really great. I do have to agree with you about the battery life being somewhat mediocre. It’s definitely something they should improve on for the second iteration, oh and an OLED screen would be nice too.
You can get the steam clip with the baseus 65W 20000 mAh battery. It's a bit expensive (because it's not mass produced), and I didn't get the clip. But it let's you attach the battery to the back of the steam deck. However the baseus battery is a must
There's no where you're ever going to be for an extended period of time (2+ hours) where you can't plug the steam deck in somehow. Even in those scenarios where it actually is impossible to plug in, throw a power bank in your carrying case.
That was a tremendously useful breakdown, thank you. For me it looks like the Switch is worth having for the portability and being able to play Zelda/Mario games. On the other hand, being a PC gamer with tons of games on already in my Steam library I reckon the Deck will prove much MUCH more useful in the long run. The final verdict: I need both!
I have a bunch of nieces and nephews and what I have noticed is that pretty much all of them have a switch and every birthday party or get together the kids do use theirs and will use the kick stand and individual controllers. Most of the kids are around 10-14 years old, and I've noticed that even when they aren't using it for two players they will sometimes put the switches on the stand and play with with one controller sideways or with the adapter, I'm guessing their hands get tired from holding the switch. Honestly I have a big problem holding the switch for extended periods too, and I'm about to buy the 3rd party joycons. Anyhow I can see why Nintendo went that route and while it is gimmicky for adults, for the kids it is a nice feature.
Kids are impressed by anything. Especially kids who are casual gamers. As a kid I played Sonic 06 and liked it. Adults are less impressed and harder to please along with having a shorter attention span
Switch for kids(Because these games are aimed at children and you don't have to worry about parental access). SDeck for adult gamers (because you can play your Steam games library and not worry about cloud sync) and it can replace ipad in travel
They cater to different consumers, I imagine there isn’t going to be much overlap between the two consoles imo. The Steam Deck to me caters mostly to people who are already into pc gaming and have a steam library already.
True. But I also feel like there will be an overlap. Not only does the Steam Deck have almost Switch's entire non-exclusive library. But it's also possible to get a hold of the exclusive ones too. And better yet, the Deck will play the vast majority of them better than the Switch. Even some of the exclusive ones. Now while Switch has a very casual playerbase. And those casual players probably don't feel like going through the hassle of making it work on the Deck. I still wouldn't dismiss the amount of non-casual players who use the Switch that will jump ship to the Deck. Considering before the Deck, Switch was the only major portable console.
I can confirm after playing Skyrim over 165 hours on the Switch, it is absolutely capable and worth it. Finished the story and even the Dawnguard add on.
Honestly, while I did love the switch at first, less and less Nintendo games seem Interesting to me. When I travel I only use the switch on flights, and unfortunately get bored of it in an hour. There are so many games on my pc that would be so sweet to play portably on good performance and resolution. I use a case for my switch all the time anyways so that’s basically the same experience portably and imo bulk is a small price to pay, for multiple games Ik I’ll invest in and actually play during those flights, road trips, waiting times etc… Excited for the steam deck for a fresh take on portable gaming and hopefully it’ll reignite my past love for handhelds.
Not to mention the THOUSANDs of ps1/ps2/dreamcast/retroconsoles that you can emulate flawlessly on the steam deck. That make it a more interesting device compared to the Switch.
@@iExotc Exactly. Though I think switch emulation is still a bit hit or miss on the Deck, that's why I didn't include it. But you're right that you can actually play -some- switch games on the Deck.
My wife isn't a big fan of videogames, but when we go on holiday or are away from home, I make sure to bring my Switch and "51 Worldwide Games" and we play stuff like Yahtzee and Connect 4 in kickstand mode and those are some of the fondest memories I've had with my Switch. I think the kickstand mode isn't the sort of thing you use on a daily basis, but having the ability to use it for things like that really does give it a bit of an edge
The slow zoom on "after Q3" made me laugh! I've only watched a couple of your videos but I really appreciate your real world takes and language. Subbed.
18:40 - to be fair to the Steam Deck's low price: Yeah, it's "too low," but honestly they have to make it that low. There are a *lot* of handheld gaming systems by third parties, but they are super niche and generally most people consider them too expensive. Valve wants to appeal to a broader audience, and the only way to really do that is to keep the price down.
Gabe in an interview said the price hurt him, there losing a lot of money on it for sure (but obviously they own Steam), I’m a console gamer, the SteamDeck is the PERFECT entry into gaming)
People with good gaming PCs are kind of a minority so that whole casual playerbase is untapped potential. With the Steam Deck being so cheap and having access to most of the Steam Library including juggernauts like Final Fantasy 7 Remake and God of War, the casuals who have never touched Steam will now be buying a ton of Steam games and Gabe will make a bunch of $$$ to make up for selling Steam Deck at a loss. You could even use the Steam Deck as a mini-PC and emulate a ton of stuff making it an insane deal. And swapping out the 64gb drive for a larger SSD is a cheap and easy process.
@@tastemyhammer2757 Thanks! Unfortunately, it looks like FedEx messed up somewhere so it no longer seems like it will arrive today. Now I just need to hope it arrives at all
I HATE THE KICKSTAND on the OG Switch model. I upgraded to the OLED model and LOVE the kickstand now. Rarely use it, but it’s WAY more reliable than the OG Switch kickstand. Having that said, me and my fiancé totally would play Mario party, Mario kart, etc on the plane or on the go with the kickstand.
I use the kickstand for co op multi-player if there is no TV around. I have really small baby hands so the Joy cons feel fine. I usually hand the other joycon to one of my buddies and we have a fun time playing smash brothers or mario kart.
Bro playing smash bros on those sounds so aids lmao. But maybe I play more competitively than you. I’d be so mad if I’m trying to do stuff and I can’t due to limitations. I hate it when I play worse than I could.
I use the kick stand quite a bit. To start with, I with the kick stand would actually be adjustable and not fall off the back, other than that its basically docked but on a smaller screen. I feel if you are going to use the switch on the go, buy the OLED for the bigger handheld screen and the better kickstand. I feel the kickstand feature works extremely well and is overshadowed by a lot of negative thoughts, its brilliant when it works and it works well if you're not counting on docking your switch all the time when using it.
The simplicity of the switch is nice but the deck wins for me because of games. More of them and at better prices. I likely won't use my switch again until the next mario, zelda, or metroid. Speaking of ergonomics though, I got a skull n co grip case for my switch and it made a world of difference. Don't understand how people use their switch without one.
but switch games have more value. I can resale them for damn near full price, which is why I very rarely download games. The Nintendo community is a big factor...
I’ve had my steam deck for a little over a month (512gb version). It was worth every penny. It’s an amazing machine. Slap emudeck on there, gamepass, your steam library and you have something that makes you enjoy a different level of gaming. I’m currently enjoying final fantasy 14 in the comfort of my couch
@@Mycarisloose not sure I understand your question. I can get about 3ish hours without being plugged in. For the most part, my charger is nearby and I can play on the couch while I’m plugged in
After a 10 month wait, im Currently fighting the boss which is FedEx lol... two shipping delays this week while being an hour away (and now under) from me. Hopefully FedEx delivers yours w/o probs!
Oh that's not happening. I pre-ordered mine July 17th and says September-October. You'd be better off buying one off ebay if you want to have it by 2024.
Oh sweet sweet innocent child, thinking you’ll be receiving a steam deck in October after just reserving it. How we all thought we’d get our steam deck in an reasonable amount of time and not a year later after pre ordering it the minute it came out. Almost one year and I’m still a few months away from receiving mine
Both are huge winners for handhelds. Mostly for their price point and useability but still waiting for my Steam Deck order, cant wait to get mine. Awesome video dude
I wanted a Steam Deck, but when I heard the battery life situation I think i'll wait for a revision. I might as well just keep using my gaming PC. I love the Switch because not only is it portable but it lasts a really long time
As someone who works in IT, I've ditched PC gaming due to the annoying complexity that it has. It's not as simple as popping a CD/cartridge into the console and boom, plug and play. Older games sometimes have compatibility issues and I'm not going to talk about how much more comfortable consoles are, let alone the tinkering one has to do when games are poorly optimized. This leads me to the issue I have with the Deck and the reason why I'd never buy one - when you buy a game on the Switch, you know it will work. You know the devs will put the time and effort to make a nice port. Case and point is The Witcher 3 - the game does not look amazing - but it's the full version and it plays really well. On the Deck, it's a different story. Are we expecting that devs will put in the extra time to make the game run smooth on the Deck or will users have to adapt to the graphical settings/stutter games might suffer? Regarding the battery life - I had no idea the Deck only lasted about an hour if playing big triple A games. When work requires, I have to fly to other countries and most flights take over 4 hours. The Switch comfortably lasts the entire flight. Furthermore, if I'm home, I can spend the whole morning in the sun lounger without having to even worry about charging the console. That's a VERY big plus. Regarding the Deck being able to emulate games - that's fun and all but... why would someone emulate the Nintendo Switch's games (besides the single-player games)? For example, in Pokémon you don't have access to the most recent updates, can't complete raids with anyone, and can't battle anyone online. What's the point of playing an emulated version of Animal Crossing: New Horizons if you don't have access to community creations, if you can't visit other people's islands? The same goes for Mario Kart, Mario Party, Smash Bros, Splatoon. The console and most of it's first party games are literally designed to be enjoyed by multiple people at once, that's why the kick-stand exists. The Deck will come and go and the Switch will still be the best portable choice.
@@pixelmentia Thank you for your input. Most of my friends and colleagues who worked in IT also ditched PC gaming once they started working. When one has but a few hours to play a day, the tinkering really feels like an annoying chore rather than a fun investigation - so I totally understand where your frustration comes from. I really hope that the Steam Deck succeeds because I'd love to see the return of a Sony handheld system. Have a good day mate.
A lot of games that aren't verified work great too. KOTOR 2 feels like it was designed to run on the Deck. I was surprised that it uses cloud save and sync too, wasn't expecting that from such an old game
I agree. It’s absurd, that even five years after release we’re expected to pay full retail price for games when the option to save via cloud isn’t a function. Frustrating for sure.
@@therunawaykid6523 definitely disappointing but physical copies still hold their value so even GameStop will fetch you a decent cash trade-in for a 6 year old game
Two things: The steamdeck is WAY less weight than I thought. We played on a large 70" TV (Sony) and running at 43FPS with MechWarrior it was amazing (battery life just shy of 90 minutes). The nintendo is a great gaming device, the joycons are horrible for me, I had to go to a pro controller as my hands are more like shovels. I truly enjoy both, I think the nintendo switch is due for some hardware upgrades but the OLED 7" is perfectly fine for grandpa if I wear my glasses hehehehe
I feel like this is the right direction and the steam deck has a lot more potential, especially if you know how to tinker with it. Whereas the Nintendo feels like out the box for a younger audience is better and I feel like if I had to buy one it would be the switch for the games, price and more portable.
The one thing I don't think you took into account is that you can connect up to like 6 pairs of joycons to your switch no matter if it's in docked mode or not. So you can take it on the go with a Bluetooth speaker and multiple joy cons and still have a good multi-player experience
@Crunch Bar and again as I said one pair of controllers on switch is technically two controllers in 1 so yeah please learn ghr difference between unlimited controlelr connections. My point was buy 2 pairs and you get 4 possible controllers for games without having to buy 4 separate pairs of controllers lol
@Crunch Bar lmao it literally does just because you're uncomfortable with it doesn't mean everybody else is. But I guess condescending douchebags don't understand the premise behind opinions 👍🏾
@Crunch Bar "I-it doesn't count" lmao he's absolutely right, just because you like the Steam Deck more doesn't mean you gotta deny everything that's good about the Switch.
First, your joke about thumbnails made me chuckle, as a fellow content creator, then your nuanced opinion made me think "wow finally someone who gets it and doesn't just list features and say "well clearly X wins because my own personal preferences matter more" and you take each side and who the devices are made for. So yeah, amazing video, subbed :)
I agree with your overall sentiment that the deck is just sooo good in comparison. But i will say to your point about kickstand mode that ive used it before. When i went to my military training when i was switching jobs we got breaks nonstop in between chapters. We'd whip out Mario kart and with 2 systems wed split screen with 4 people. Also if you have kids they straight up dont care about the size. Theyll use it on the go. Overall id still take the deck. Cant wait to get mine. I love gaming on my onexplayer
Some reference for comparing battery life: Steam Deck: 5310 mAh battery Switch & Switch OLED: 4310 mAh Swich Lite: 3570 mAh So Steam Deck actually has 23% more battery charge than the Switch/OLED. I have a really new Switch OLED, Nintendo gives 4.5-9 hrs of battery life. My experience from playing a more demanding game like Breath it's probably average 5 hrs realistically. If you had a battery in a steam deck that could play Elden Ring for 5 hours, your hands would probably would get too tired from holding the brick in your hands first. Just plug in a ~30$ higher capacity power bank to 6x your battery life on either console.
I am watching your channel for some time and man, I have to admit, this is so far one of the best channel I am subscribed to. And I am subscribed to many channels :) Keep up the good work.
I bought a switch to play games on the go. I bought a switch Oled. When I go to buy games, seeing some games going for $60 when it has been out for years, is crazy to me. And I'm surprised there isn't more people talking about the price of Nintendo games. That alone put me off. I just spent $350 on a console with games that's been out for years and they don't go down in price at all?! Having a ps5, it just makes me want to spend $60 on there instead of a 5 year old Nintendo game. I'm shocked they can get away with it. So a steam deck just sounds way better. Especially with steam sales. I've been very tempted to return the switch because of how expensive the games are.
Yep, the big plus of Steam Deck is the game library. It's not just because you already have Steam or even Epic, but the price is way lower, especially for old titles.
One point to add on the storage point is that if you mostly buy cartridges as opposed to digital the internal storage being low is less relevant. As for the kickstand I sometimes use it when I can't use docked mode for whatever reason as a sort of bedside minitv Pe
I dont get the complaint about cloud saves on switch cuz i dont think most people who already own a normal switch would also buy a lite to take it outside, since the whole point of the normal switch is that it works both ways
@5:27 when you said you barely understand anything is the moment I subscribed thanks to your honesty! Really wish my Steam Deck purchase button would activate soon! I pre-ordered in July 2021 and still have a Q3 2022 wait! As much as I love my Switch, I'm pretty sure I'm going to love the Steam Deck better. I didn't even know XBOX Game Pass was possible on it. That's a winner to me. Steam games, XBOX games, and retro games??! The clear winner is the Steam Deck.
Also... Switch has gyro controls too... And they are pretty great... As for kickstand mode I personally don't use It, but my daughter used It to play Arms with her friend while in the hotel. It was good.
It's important to note, the Switch may have gyro controls, but you can't use the gyro controls in most games. However, with the Steam Deck you can have gyro support in every single game without needing developer support, even on very old games when gyro didn't even exist.
Honestly, I don't usually end up buying games from eShop sales because the big first party releases almost never go on sale and the 3rd party games are basically always better on my PC (and soon deck). That being said, it's definitely not a bad deal if that's all you're playing on
Steam Deck made me forget Switch existed, which I expected. It also made me forget my very new overstepped PC build... that was unforeseen. I only boot my PC up for VR now.
Love my OLED Switch. I have the dock wall mounted next to my TV, play in handheld, play with kickstand (way better on oled) when just sitting at dining room table just being lazy. Kids keep saying “get a gaming pc” (mac user) but I don’t want to spend that much money so the Steam Deck sounds perfect for me both for price and the ton of games that the switch just can’t handle. Great review. Thanks!
Gaming pc still way better than steam deck and not as expensive as you’re making it. Switch is unique tho because u can have a pc/steam deck and still have use for your switch. If you’re a casual gamer and don’t care about other pc stuff then just get a steam deck.
@@OminousBlast maybe I’m looking too expensive. What should a basic gaming pc run? I’m definitely open to options, just didn’t know of one in a similar-ish price range.
When I tried to buy a Switch I couldn't find one even close to MSRP. Scalpers had them all and were selling on Amazon. You have to have a valid Steam account to buy one Steam Deck at a time. You pay a set price to Steam and they guarantee them. I'm glad I didn't buy a Switch from a scalper.
Was looking for reviews on the NYXI controller for the switch yesterday and immediately subscribed after watching yours. Really been enjoying your content. Anyways as for myself, I travel alot and often find myself on long flights or places with poor to no internet. The Switch is perfect for this due to the portability and battery life. Not to mention it has a vast library of games which are often on-sale on the eshop It is definitely time Nintendo upgraded their hardware however as I would love to play the newer titles on the switch. If the steam deck improved their battery life, I'd probably get one, but for now I'm good with my oled. Appreciate the review and keep up the good work 👍
For 5 years, I owned a Nintendo switch. It was really fun, I had fun with my friends. In 2021 I just stopped. The games felt old and for little kids. I wasn't interested in a small indie game or new final fantasy, or a mid AAA game that was terribly overpriced and not ported well. Plus everything in the switch looked bad. It wasn't till late 2022. I found out about the steam deck. I was curious and found out it could run games at a solid speed and actually had a huge library of fun games I liked like black ops, Elden ring, 2k, War thunder, etc etc. I immediately bought one and sold my switch. I gotta admit it was really expensive and knowing storage would be a problem was a downer. But once it arrived I was blown away. Doom eternal at 60 frames at high graphics? Linux? Roblox? Xbox? I became obsessed with it until I found out 2 things. 1: the dock sucks, and 2: Extremely unstable. The dock is way overpriced. Plus I have a 4k TV and seeing how bad it looked scaled at 1280x800 killed me inside. I then tried to upscale the resolution to 4k, but then cringed in 5fps and freezing every 5 seconds. I went down to 1920x1080 to find stable 30 fps. I found gamescope which massive improved my frames to stable 60 in almost every game. Next, the steam deck is really unstable. It crashes frequently, corrupted files, black screen, slow menu. It drove me insane. I had to watch some videos to fix it. In conclusion, Steam deck was much better for me because I could play any game (even my old nintendo games) and actually have good performance unless on a TV. But since the steam deck is so open built, your gonna run into alot of problems but I say it's worth your money.
As a OTR trucker I love my switch OLED! Hell, I even use the kickstand with it while using a 3rd party controller. But I will love my Steam Deck when I get that bad boy and I'llbe playing the fuck out of it!
Its not really comparable for me because the switch is a home console. I've had it since launch day and have used it handheld for a total of maybe 10 hours. The overwhelming majority of time I've used it docked. That tells me that if I had a steam deck it would get zero use because I would just use my computer
I think the gyroscope thing on the Steam is a pretty amazing feature, and as a bonus, I guess it also somehow protects the analog stick (you don't need to move the stick that much)
Lol don't tell them it's too cheap!!! Solid opinions though. I feel like Nintendo needs to keep being around to show everyone what they really want, and then another company just does it better. Keeps happening, really. I wonder when they're going to listen to fans. People have been asking for a Switch Pro forever, now someone else made it. I have a Switch, and the Switch tax really turned me off of it. 7 first party games and I could just buy a Deck. I think it was a good laugh hearing people talk about how the Steam Deck was too expensive. 50 more than OLED Switch, TOO MUCH MONEY... Nintendudes.
I completely agree with u. Luckily I’m nodding my switch and I’ll probably buy the steam deck. The only game I bought that was worth the price was smash bros. The sheer content and skill ceiling in that game is insane. And the 60 dollar dlc was worth it for me but definitely way too overpriced.
For me battery life dictates 80% of my decision in owning a portable handheld. No matter how good it is if its gonna nail me behind a power outlet most of the time then I might as well just play on my PC. I own a switch and the real OG portable PC handhelds( GPD win 1,2 & 3) and I still opt for the switch as my go to platform because having the OLED version could give me 4h30m battery life at the very minimum while on my GPD Win 3 the very minimum it could give is around 2hrs. And no, I got a steamdeck before. AFAIK I am one of the earliest owners and the very minimum playtime I had with it is 1hr23m with the same everything on my GPD Win 3. So I sold it. 😅 And my go yo portable console to this date is still my ps vita because it can give me a very minimum of 5h30m to this date.
An interesting comparison would also be the nintendo switch lite! I absolutely love mine. Its a great size, the joycons dont feel like they are about to break off. It has a d pad and you can put nice ergonomic cases on it! So nice but it does lose the abulity to cast to the tv. Nonetheless i love it just handheld. I think it also holds up well against the steam deck
I hope you know Nintendo does have cloud saving meaning you can play your breath of the wild on your big switch and then go to your switch lite and it will be saved through the cloud so you'll be good
Basically, yeah, table mode usually goes really underrated. I played it a few times during flights. Not with friends though. Just put it on a table and held joycons in hands. It really is something ergonomically new - to be able to keep your hands crossed or in the pockets while playing switch with a kick stand.
I absolutely liked my steam deck. Preordered the 512 LCD well before launch, but then I seen an OLED model in person and man, I had to "upgrade". Bought the 512 model OLED and put in a 2tb SSD recommended by toms hardware testing results and I freaking love the thing. From remote playing my series X, PS5 and steam library to pretty much any PC game with moonlight and sunshine, it's super versatile. Not to mention playing almost any PC game natively on it. Then add on top of all that it's emulation capabilities. It's a no brainer for any real gamer imo. I won't even mention how many games I've bought off the steam store since owning the deck(s). Valve really knew what they were doing with this. Hats off to them.
I enjoy the steam deck cheaper games option to play majority of my steam games . And not having to pay for online is a huge plus for me .I will say in my opinion software updates I feel like a beta tester for the steam deck but over all I enjoy the experience . Also keep up the awesome content.
I had the same thoughts it's definitely a test run but anyone who has one(Beta testers) please keep giving your input/feed back so when they release the next version It will be perfect and I will be in line 😁
Kickstand mode on nintendo is great for me. I drive truck and i often play fifa with people that load or unload my truck when i have free time. Don't even speak same language, doesn't matter, everyone loves fifa
What about the Ayn odin? Its android from the box but supports windows too. Its quite a bit stronger then the switch and slightly cheaper, it runs all retro emulators up to playstation 2 and wii without problems too.
Availability and price are the most important for me. If I have to order an expensive console online only, I’m not gonna get it. I love the idea of the Steam Deck but because I can’t just go get it from a store and add a memory card to it, it’s a hard pass for me right now.
My biggest gripe with the Switch is the absurdly expensive games.. Time to discount something Nintendo come on… There are very few games that deserve the $60 price tag they still hold.
@@MyCurls_MyCrown I can’t see Nintendo doing that because their first party games sell unlike Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo had multiple games that sold 20-30 millions and they are still selling. Look at Mario kart 8. A game from 2014 is still in the top 10. It sucks but if I was a business why would I lower the price or do a service where my products keep selling.
@@jjk5693 I think it comes down to the quality of the games. They make fun games, it’s not complicated or tries to send a message. It’s there for entertainment. With the gen of switch games, you have seen evolution of their popular series. Zelda, Mario, Kirby and even Pokemon. Most people just want to put in a game and have a good time. That is what gaming is. The concept of the switch is really cool. So more people bought in and want to play games.
I will say one thing about the kickstand with the switch as a recently graduated kid, I know we had tons of slow days in school, and often times students would bring in their switches and they would use the kickstand to play smash, so I do know a multitude of people who used the kickstand to game, and I even use it on occasion as a new switch owner.
12:30 Switch actually has cloud saves for most games INCLUDING BOTW with automatic back ups and restoring. they usually don't support cloud saves for games were people can use dupe glitches or cheat in online ones, but BOTW does actually have cloud saves you probably just didn't back it up or turn on automatic cloud saves Steam also ha cloud saves for majority of games but I lost my Dark Souls 3 save file due to it not supporting cloud saves for STEAM. so it's really the same situation on both devices
@@crissuwu2243 Yes, Cloud Saves for the Switch is only if you pay their online subscription. Admittedly though it is cheap compared to like PS+, you just gotta pay $3.99 a month for online functions and the cloud saves.
I think it just depends on what games you like more, Nintendo, party games, or pc games. I personally don’t rlly care for portable games so the steam is not for me bc I’d rather just play on my ps5 when I can but the switch offers something completely different imo.
Hey, dude! Just came across your channel yesterday. Was looking for a review of the Backbone One controller, and your honest assessment was super helpful. Really appreciate your down-to-earth disposition and (healthy) self-deprecating humor. Have since subscribed and watched several more of your related videos. (Huge Nintendo and Apple guy here.) Hope you are recovering well from the illness. Will be praying for you in the meantime. And am looking forward to supporting you going forward, man! … Beat that algorithm!!
Did you know you could connect a joy con (or both of them) to the steam deck? Not sure if that is useful but that is the magic of standard bluethoot and linux.
thanks for the input/review. i loved my switch when i first bought it but i just felt like there was no games that i liked on it. ive had my deck for about a week and i cant put it down!! i love it man
I’ve used kickstand mode while sitting in the queue for dealer rooms at conventions. You’re often forced to get there early and sit for hours, so having the ability to set up Mario Kart or Smash comfortably is great. I also use it to stand the Switch on my desk when not in use to stop the back getting scratched, but that’s because I’m OCD with hardware… Not a vital function to be sure, but handy.
Just get a 45 watt battery bank a U shaped USB cable, and a fanny pack, problem solved. Cigarette adaptor with Bluetooth to FM also means you can rock out your 100 watt car stereo system too.
Great video! Hopefully I will be getting my unit soon! I periodically use my Switch in kickstand mode to watch videos on RUclips. Controlling the app with detached Joy-cons is quite convenient. If only the Switch had more media apps and they aren't clunky. Nintendo Switch does offer cloud save capability through its paid subscription online service. However, it is not as seamless when compared to Steam, and not every game supports it. Ultimately, the whole Nintendo online infrastructure needs a major update (e.g. entitlement transfer). It sort of works, but it is leagues behind the competition. Come on, Nintendo. I love you and I love the Switch, but we are in 2022, not 2008.
Great video- thank you! I have a Switch, it’s my first Nintendo console since NES, and I LOVE it. I also have an Xbox Series X (and One X). Between those two consoles/ecosystems, I think it takes care of anything I would want to play outside of a few PlayStation games that interest me (I had a PS4 and sold it actually). However, just about everyone has a cell phone. If you’re going to cloud stream Xbox games, you could just use the Xbox app and multiple options for controls, such as the Razer Kishi. So, if I were to have a Steamdeck, I think it could fill some of the PlayStation gap, but only when those games are made available on PC. Unfortunately, since it’s not a closed ecosystem, there’s no guarantee that the PC games in the store will work or are optimized. That’s where, although enticing, the Steamdeck falls apart for me. I think it’s a badass console though. The controls look fantastic and I love the ergonomic grip on the back. In fact, I had to buy a third party case to get that similar grip on my Switch! I don’t think either one is better. Knowing what I know about games on Switch, Astral Chain is not a game I would be willing to sacrifice. It’s a top-5 game for me all time, and it’s only on Switch. The same goes of course for Zelda BOTW. Bayonetta 3 is on the way, Mario Odyssey was fantastic, etc. However, if I hadn’t known anything about those games, have zero consoles in my possession and I’m starting from square one with a handheld device, I would buy the Steamdeck. If it were an option in 2017 and I had nothing else, I would look at the controls and graphics and my decision would be made right away. On the flip side, if you have an impressive home console like PS4, PS5, Xbox One S/X or Xbox Series S/X, those will play most of those Steamdeck games better, and then having a Switch for handheld is an excellent complement. It’s also worth mentioning, if you have a home console, you can stream games to your cell phone, meaning you can have a handheld device for those games too. You can’t take that cloud streaming experience outside of your home and expect it to work, however. Many public Wi-Fi connections are severely limited and mobile streaming will be spotty. In that way, the Steamdeck would be a better experience for sure.
Everyone keeps tring to compare Nintendo products to other companies without realizing Nintendo is first and foremost a toy company. They make products that are fun and thats it.
It's the lack of transferable cloud saves, plus having a Wii U and therefore having played a lot of games I want already on it (MK8, SM3DW, Bayonetta), that has led me to probably being the last person to not have a Switch. I can't believe they still don't have a quick way to transfer saves. I assume if your Switch breaks your saves are tied to your account now, though..?
@@TechSpaceCowboy Man. I'm sure there are people complain you have to be online to even boot up your xbox in the first place, but if that means if that console breaks, all my saves are in the cloud...ok then. Guess I'll get the next Nintendo console I stead and see if they get it right then, or just buy a Switch then. 🤷🏼♀️
@@TechSpaceCowboy I have the OLED Switch,which has the bigger screen and better kick stand, these are the games I have for it, my Steam Deck has A LOT more games,including all of Metal Gear Solid,the Far Cry Collection,GTAV,Reddead Redemption and A LOT more, I also have a 30thousand mah portable battery pack, for my Switch and my Steam Deck as well, I've upgraded my Steam Deck A LOT as well, it has 2Tbs of storage and a 1TB micro SD Card, along with a lot of custom software, which I go more into, when I cover my experience with the Steam Deck, these are the games I have on Switch; The Borderlands collection The BioShock collection Sniper Elite 4 Red Faction Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1+2 The Doom Collection Skyrim Resident evil 0,1,4,5 and 6 Mortal Kombat 11 The Outer Worlds The Dark Siders Collection; Genesis, 1,2 and 3 Dark Souls Dragon Dogma Kingdoms Of Amalur Re-Reckoning immortals Fenyx Rising Subnautica Below Zero Fire Emblem Warriors Zelda Breath of the wild Crysis The Assassin's Creed Collection/ Assassins creed 2 Assassins Creed Brotherhood Assassins Creed Revelations Assassin’s Creed 3 Remastered Assassins Creed Liberation Remastered Black Flag Rogue Dying Light World War Z Dragon Ball Xenoverse Metro 2033 The Saints Row collection: The third, IV and all DLC. The Need For Speed hot pursuit remastered Fast RMX Lego City undercover Lego DC Super Villains Vampyr Monster Hunter collection God Eater 3 Ninja Gaiden Collection Destroy All Humans Ghost Busters Man Eater Hades Dead Cells Enter The Gungeon BloodStain Ritual Of The Night OddWorld Collection Shantae Half Genie Hero Hollow Knight Shovel Knight Treasure Trove Celeste Blue Fire Persistence Astral Chains Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana Sword Art Online Digimon Cyber sleuth Complete edition Everspace Stellar Edition GTA Trilogy Star Wars The Force Unleashed DCUO Warframe. This has been my experiences with the Steam Deck,so far: Hardware wise I've changed one thing, I bought the 512GB Steam Deck, but I upgraded the storage to a Micron M.2 2230 2TBs of storage and I have a 1TB Sandisk Extreme Pro micro sd card. I haven't had a problem with any games,I can also create custom button layouts, for all of my controllers/the system will detect, which controller I have plugged in and what game I am loading,so I can use a/any controller, for any game I want. I have done a lot to my Steam Deck though/ I formated the device though/started from scratch, I cloned the drives, to start with and created some custom drive clones,which I started by running them in emulators,before I installed them back on the Steam Deck, to figure out what I wanted to keep and what I wanted to get rid of and then after everything worked in emulators/emulation, I then tested and optimized everything on the actual Steam Deck. An optimized/reconfigured version of Steam Decks OS runs on top/in all of this/I kept some of the GUI/Graphical User Interface, but I also added a lot in, where I thought the original Steam Deck's OS was lacking things, but I started with Arch/Manjaro Linux and Windows though,its not dual boot though,they run simultaneously,in real time/its kind of hard to explain, but they kind of run in a sleep mode and when a certain thing/task needs to be done, that portion of the OS wakes up,its more efficient than just running Windows/its better on performance/battery life and processing power and it allows me to be able to run what ever I need or want to, I'll go into some of the tools that I use, to make this happen,but A LOT of this is my own code/IFTTT, on top of these tools, I also have to deal with permissions and root,while keeping security in check,meaning I still maintain a secure system and the reason I've done it this way, is for performance. So,like I've already said, a custom version of Steam Deck's OS runs on top of all of this,kind of like when you have Ubuntu installed and you want cinnamon's desktop/GUI environment, so you type in a terminal on Ubuntu, sudo apt install cinnamon or on Arch/Manjaro,its sudo pacman -S cinnamon gnome-terminal,but you also need lightdm/icon themes and what not too, but you get what I'm saying, my custom version of Steam Deck OS runs ontop of all of this/I have Windows on mine,plus full arch/Manjaro Linux,with some add ons, for support for debian based Linux and support for software, I use a combination of A LOT of things, with some built in IFTTT/If This Than That,example,IF its raining, don't turn on the sprinklers, with that simple mind set, you can accomplish A LOT. These are some of the tools/software I've used,I've also used some of my own custom code, also I don't pay for any of this, I've just added this,into my own custom code and removed what I didn't like, So what I use is, Steam/Steam Play,obviously,but I also use Wine,CrossOver,GameHub, LutrisGaming,PlayOnLinux,Browsers,Terminals,but I don't use all of any of this/I have mainly just used what I wanted out of the code and ripped out what I didn't want,its kind of an OS at this point/its built into the core of the device,I only update the parts I want as well,meaning if I don't like something in an update, I won't update that portion of the update,I don't know if I've violated any user licenses, but the device just works now, no matter what I'm trying to do,meaning I can work from the device,the only thing it doesn't do well,while maintaining performance, but I wouldn't want it to do this anyway,because it would use up A LOT of its resources/power, it can't emulate multiple OSs at the same time, while doing a lot of tasks,I reserve these tasks for my laptops one has an I9, 3080 and my other laptop has a Xeon W-11950H VPro processor and an Nvidia RTX A5000 Max-Q 16GB, they both also have 128GB of RAM and three 2TB SSDs and a 7200RPM 6TB hardrive,so 12TBs of storage, they both also have Linux Manjaro AND Windows on it. It hasWIFI 6 AND 4G LTE built in as well. The reason I need this much power, is to test my code, in multiple emulators, simultaneously, also gaming. This is what else I've done to my Steam Deck and how I use it, at times, I plug it into a monitor/I can use peripherals/keyboards,a mouse, any controller/Xbox 360,Xbox One,PS4,PS5,thats mainly what I've tried/added drivers for/custom mapping and so on for, so far, but I've also added support for,Codecs,Image Viewers,Image Processors,Image Compression,Editors,FontEditors,anyway you get the idea, I've added support for basically everything and customized everything,the device no longer has limits, from a software aspect/perspective,the device also knows what its being plugged into, meaning, IF I plug it into a TV/Monitor/a specific monitor/TV, it knows what I want the environment to look like/it has a custom desktop/UI/User Interface/GUI/Graphical User Interface, depending on,what im plugged to/what I have plugged in/when it sees a certain display,it configures the system a certain way,if I plug in another peripheral, it knows/sees that and may change the GUI configuration/even functionality, based on what it knows, I'm trying to do, more If This Than That,it also has voice control too/I can say, open this specific program/Software/APP/it has Android support as well/like I said, ANYTHING I want to run on it, can be ran, it also knows, if a legacy piece of software is trying to be ran, so it can emulate that environment or use a form of compatability mode, so it can run the code/software,either by recreating it all together/emulating it or using legacy software to run the software or a combination of both. Anyway I'm really liking the device so far, by doing things this way though,I won't know when developers add support for certain things/for me basically after the first month,everything just worked, it took me ABOUT a month, to get everything working perfectly/flawlessly, every single time,at this point I would trust the OS to run a server,it has, If This Than Thats, for every scenario, A LOT of my IFTTT is backed up,so anytime I get a new system, I put them on my new system, I have SOME custom ones,but I have some in a universal folder/these IFTTTs work on any system, also I'm not talking about IFTTT,I'm just talking about the mentality/action,meaning the code could be in C/C++,Assembly,Python,Java Script HTML/CSS,PHP and so on,when I'm talking about IFTTT,I'm just talking about the mentality,its what allows me to work only 4 hours a day, seven days a week. Anyway so far this has been a really good system,but I honestly can't tell people that, because I'm not running the software it was shipped with/I've customized basically everything about the Steam Deck.
I guess I'm still the only person that doesn't use the cloud LOL. I have servers/a good many, but, I own the hardware/servers/I don't pay a subscription,I use the cloud/Internet,for my servers, but I don't rely on other peoples servers/internet, when it comes to back ups. Also all of that is set to save to my servers,also my VMs/Virtual Machines/emulators,either run locally or in the cloud, but from my own servers, also when it comes to the Switch specifically, all you have to do is drag and drop files,but I have all that automated too/backed up, to my own servers and I can connect to them/push data to the console, anyway all of this can be automated, no big deal, I do the same thing with Steam too,I had an issue with Assassins Creed Black Flag one time, with my save file, so I'm never using anyone elses servers, anymore EVER,that was annoying,especially after playing the game for like 20 hours. Anyway automating all of this stuff your self isn't hard to do.
I actually use the Kickstand mode very often, even if playing alone. Sometimes it is just comfortable to detach the joy cons (one in each hand) and play the switch just tabletop. The features you mention about the controller itself of the steam deck were already with us for years: Steam controller :). Best controller ever
"not super easy to change them (joysticks)".. "you MIGHT be able to open it up and change them".. "youre stuck with the bad joysticks if they break"... Valve literally designed and built the steamdeck to be 100% fully user replaceable. In ability and in parts.. Valve teamed with Ifixit and released standalone joysticks (and many other parts) so anyone who had any issue whatsoever could buy the part and with a few screws and following official guides you could replace the joysticks (or screen, or frame, or ssd, or wifi card, or speakers, or battery......) so where are you getting "might" and "maybe" with fixability of the steamdeck? it was literally designed to be able to be fixed in the future.. This is the FIRST console in the history of gaming who's company made it so you can fix your hardware with no bullshit attached to it.. "The switch has modularity.. you can buy new joycons or third party grips" The steamdeck is literally a full x86 PC............. Which means you can buy any anything and plug it in or bluetooth it on.. including any controller from the millions of products that exist... wether it be usb or even stock controllers from legacy gaming consoles (with adapters to convert their proprietary plugs to usb).. there are a couple grips for the switch.. cool... There are literally millions of products that are compatible with pc..
I agree with all the points made, however before my wife and I had a child, on long train and plane trips we would use kickstand mode and have a blast. Outside that we would never use it however
The key difference in this comparison is that many of us already have an extensive library of triple-A games on Steam, and with the Steam Deck, we can enjoy replaying them and also take advantage of the numerous game sales on the platform. On the contrary, Nintendo Switch games tend to be quite expensive, and even older Nintendo games rarely go on sale. In my opinion, it's a no-brainer that the Steam Deck comes out on top in this battle.
Great video! I just wanted to share my experience with the Deck's battery life, as it varies quite a bit from yours. I tend to play older AAA games and indies, so for me I usually get around 4 hours minimum, and 7-8 hours maximum. For example, playing Fallout New Vegas will get me 4 hours, while playing something like Stardew Valley will get me around 7. Even with more intense AAA games, like The Witcher 3, I find myself getting about 3 to 3 and a half hours after tinkering with it. The only games that fall into the 2 hours or less range in my experience are newer AAA games like GoW and Spider-man. Again tho, great video! I'll definitely be checking out the channel. Edit: Also, to answer your question, I used the Switch's kickstand back in high school to play Mario Kart with a friend during breaks. Not the best experience, but better than nothing.
I don’t actually think it’s fair to compare the two despite some obvious similarities. You need to take into considerarion that one is half a decade old and the other is a modern, compact PC.
I’ve used the kickstand once for Mario Kart with friends on a car ride from NYC to Philly and then again to play some Street Fighter at a bar (I used the 8-BitDo 6-button pads for that). It’s a cool idea that would have been a lot neater back in middle school but maybe not the best for adult gamers.
Thanks for the Video. I have the switch and I like it. Having to buy all new games at 50+ each, kind of aggravates me, but it is what it is. Having the Deck with all my games I already paid for in my library and being able to play them on the go... Priceless! Plus I'm in my car 8+ hours a day, Driving from site to site. I have some downtime at times and being able to continue a game where I left off at home in my car... Priceless! To me, it's a no brainer having the deck.
One of my major concern also is the ghost movement on the steam since it is fixed on the body of the unit. Switch has really bad joystick ghost movement :c
For me personally, I don't really see the point in buying a steam deck if I already own a Switch Oled. The only games I want to play handheld and on the go are games like the mario franchise, pokemon or zelda. Everything else I can just play on my Xbox series X or Ps5. In saying that though I have a switch Oled and have never played it in hand held and have never used the joy con's... mine went straight to the dock and I had two switch pro controllers ready to go
I feel a good match up with the steam deck would just be a gaming laptop at this point. Just by how powerful the little guy is.
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@@ben2808 can you not
I thought the same thing. There is decent gaming laptops for the same price.
It's a handheld a laptop has a keyboard and touch pad
Idk man it’s size looks pretty average to me
The more reviews come out for the Steam Deck, the more I'm absolutely excited for it. This system is something that just really interests me more than the current consoles out right now. It's the just the open aspect of the system that appeals to me.
For the price you can just get a pc instead of steam deck so I don’t see how it’s worth it in any aspect
@@aplayz752 I have a 3060 TI and I definitely agree. It's just that the idea of having a compact system when I have to go out is so appealing because I have a ton of smaller games in my library I want to get around to.
@@aplayz752 not everyone can lug around a labtop and play at work
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@@aplayz752 The Deck costs less than a good graphics card let a lone a whole PC with peripherals...
I have the steam deck and it’s really great. I do have to agree with you about the battery life being somewhat mediocre. It’s definitely something they should improve on for the second iteration, oh and an OLED screen would be nice too.
Yeah I don't care if it doubles the weight. Give me the powah!
You can get the steam clip with the baseus 65W 20000 mAh battery. It's a bit expensive (because it's not mass produced), and I didn't get the clip. But it let's you attach the battery to the back of the steam deck. However the baseus battery is a must
@@mitchelcambell8461 okey but how would i attach it to the back
and wouldnt that make the deck x2 heavy
There's no where you're ever going to be for an extended period of time (2+ hours) where you can't plug the steam deck in somehow. Even in those scenarios where it actually is impossible to plug in, throw a power bank in your carrying case.
@@chanty2192 I go camping a few times a year. I need the juice.
That was a tremendously useful breakdown, thank you. For me it looks like the Switch is worth having for the portability and being able to play Zelda/Mario games. On the other hand, being a PC gamer with tons of games on already in my Steam library I reckon the Deck will prove much MUCH more useful in the long run. The final verdict: I need both!
Glad it was helpful!
I have a bunch of nieces and nephews and what I have noticed is that pretty much all of them have a switch and every birthday party or get together the kids do use theirs and will use the kick stand and individual controllers. Most of the kids are around 10-14 years old, and I've noticed that even when they aren't using it for two players they will sometimes put the switches on the stand and play with with one controller sideways or with the adapter, I'm guessing their hands get tired from holding the switch. Honestly I have a big problem holding the switch for extended periods too, and I'm about to buy the 3rd party joycons. Anyhow I can see why Nintendo went that route and while it is gimmicky for adults, for the kids it is a nice feature.
Kids are impressed by anything. Especially kids who are casual gamers. As a kid I played Sonic 06 and liked it. Adults are less impressed and harder to please along with having a shorter attention span
Switch for kids(Because these games are aimed at children and you don't have to worry about parental access).
SDeck for adult gamers (because you can play your Steam games library and not worry about cloud sync) and it can replace ipad in travel
They cater to different consumers, I imagine there isn’t going to be much overlap between the two consoles imo. The Steam Deck to me caters mostly to people who are already into pc gaming and have a steam library already.
True. But I also feel like there will be an overlap. Not only does the Steam Deck have almost Switch's entire non-exclusive library. But it's also possible to get a hold of the exclusive ones too. And better yet, the Deck will play the vast majority of them better than the Switch. Even some of the exclusive ones.
Now while Switch has a very casual playerbase. And those casual players probably don't feel like going through the hassle of making it work on the Deck. I still wouldn't dismiss the amount of non-casual players who use the Switch that will jump ship to the Deck. Considering before the Deck, Switch was the only major portable console.
There's defiantly some overlap. I came very close to buying a switch, when the steam deck released I decided not to get it.
mine with the switch emulator installed overlap the shit out of my switch gathering dust in the corner
@@Whitedudeabove I’m getting the switch because I wanna play online and what not, I have a pc to begin with so it doesn’t matter to me
@@jackthecommenter2768 I'm not sure I get your point. You mean you can't play online with a Deck or what? I'm confused.
I can confirm after playing Skyrim over 165 hours on the Switch, it is absolutely capable and worth it. Finished the story and even the Dawnguard add on.
Honestly, while I did love the switch at first, less and less Nintendo games seem Interesting to me. When I travel I only use the switch on flights, and unfortunately get bored of it in an hour. There are so many games on my pc that would be so sweet to play portably on good performance and resolution. I use a case for my switch all the time anyways so that’s basically the same experience portably and imo bulk is a small price to pay, for multiple games Ik I’ll invest in and actually play during those flights, road trips, waiting times etc…
Excited for the steam deck for a fresh take on portable gaming and hopefully it’ll reignite my past love for handhelds.
Not to mention the THOUSANDs of ps1/ps2/dreamcast/retroconsoles that you can emulate flawlessly on the steam deck. That make it a more interesting device compared to the Switch.
@@backpain100 lol you could literally emulate switch on steam deck
@@iExotc Exactly. Though I think switch emulation is still a bit hit or miss on the Deck, that's why I didn't include it. But you're right that you can actually play -some- switch games on the Deck.
@@backpain100 even without emulation the switch lacks a lot of things
And looking at the prices of switch games, depending on how much you're using it, you'll 100% save some money by buying the more expensive steam deck.
My wife isn't a big fan of videogames, but when we go on holiday or are away from home, I make sure to bring my Switch and "51 Worldwide Games" and we play stuff like Yahtzee and Connect 4 in kickstand mode and those are some of the fondest memories I've had with my Switch. I think the kickstand mode isn't the sort of thing you use on a daily basis, but having the ability to use it for things like that really does give it a bit of an edge
The slow zoom on "after Q3" made me laugh! I've only watched a couple of your videos but I really appreciate your real world takes and language. Subbed.
18:40 - to be fair to the Steam Deck's low price: Yeah, it's "too low," but honestly they have to make it that low. There are a *lot* of handheld gaming systems by third parties, but they are super niche and generally most people consider them too expensive. Valve wants to appeal to a broader audience, and the only way to really do that is to keep the price down.
Gabe in an interview said the price hurt him, there losing a lot of money on it for sure (but obviously they own Steam), I’m a console gamer, the SteamDeck is the PERFECT entry into gaming)
@@EndzCrypto that goes for every console maker. They take losses and make up for it in software.
People with good gaming PCs are kind of a minority so that whole casual playerbase is untapped potential. With the Steam Deck being so cheap and having access to most of the Steam Library including juggernauts like Final Fantasy 7 Remake and God of War, the casuals who have never touched Steam will now be buying a ton of Steam games and Gabe will make a bunch of $$$ to make up for selling Steam Deck at a loss.
You could even use the Steam Deck as a mini-PC and emulate a ton of stuff making it an insane deal. And swapping out the 64gb drive for a larger SSD is a cheap and easy process.
@@REXae86 Except for Nintendo
@@ArcueidBrunestuddo bro pc is the most popular in regards to gaming… They need to appeal to casual gamers tho and most pc gamers aren’t casual.
I'm watching this while waiting for FedEx to swing by with my Deck. Thanks for helping me kill time while I wait!
enjoy and happy gaming.
I'm happy for you!
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@@tastemyhammer2757 Thanks! Unfortunately, it looks like FedEx messed up somewhere so it no longer seems like it will arrive today. Now I just need to hope it arrives at all
I HATE THE KICKSTAND on the OG Switch model. I upgraded to the OLED model and LOVE the kickstand now. Rarely use it, but it’s WAY more reliable than the OG Switch kickstand. Having that said, me and my fiancé totally would play Mario party, Mario kart, etc on the plane or on the go with the kickstand.
I use the kickstand for co op multi-player if there is no TV around. I have really small baby hands so the Joy cons feel fine. I usually hand the other joycon to one of my buddies and we have a fun time playing smash brothers or mario kart.
I have no TV so the tabletop mode comes in clutch when my GF and I wanna play some Mario Kart :)
I dont like the + button is not one instead like ds is best
Bro playing smash bros on those sounds so aids lmao. But maybe I play more competitively than you.
I’d be so mad if I’m trying to do stuff and I can’t due to limitations. I hate it when I play worse than I could.
Mario kart is fine and I even played it with those joy ones before but the controls for that game are super simple even though u have to be precise.
I use the kick stand quite a bit. To start with, I with the kick stand would actually be adjustable and not fall off the back, other than that its basically docked but on a smaller screen. I feel if you are going to use the switch on the go, buy the OLED for the bigger handheld screen and the better kickstand. I feel the kickstand feature works extremely well and is overshadowed by a lot of negative thoughts, its brilliant when it works and it works well if you're not counting on docking your switch all the time when using it.
The simplicity of the switch is nice but the deck wins for me because of games. More of them and at better prices. I likely won't use my switch again until the next mario, zelda, or metroid.
Speaking of ergonomics though, I got a skull n co grip case for my switch and it made a world of difference. Don't understand how people use their switch without one.
yup
The clear skull and Co case made a world of difference lol.
"Sadly" I'm selling it all to sweeten the steam deck cost
but switch games have more value. I can resale them for damn near full price, which is why I very rarely download games. The Nintendo community is a big factor...
Send me your Switch to let me make use of it?
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I’ve had my steam deck for a little over a month (512gb version). It was worth every penny. It’s an amazing machine. Slap emudeck on there, gamepass, your steam library and you have something that makes you enjoy a different level of gaming. I’m currently enjoying final fantasy 14 in the comfort of my couch
It’s plugged in to the wall right? Because you’re only gonna be on the couch for about 30 minutes.
@@Mycarisloose not sure I understand your question. I can get about 3ish hours without being plugged in. For the most part, my charger is nearby and I can play on the couch while I’m plugged in
@@Mycarisloose why would I be on the couch for 30 minutes?
ff14 on the deck...no way! Thats so cool.
Whats emudeck?
@@bboyg1 allows you to emulate other consoles such as PS2, GameCube, even Switch.
I just reserved my steam deck today! I’m really excited about receiving mines later this October
After a 10 month wait, im Currently fighting the boss which is FedEx lol... two shipping delays this week while being an hour away (and now under) from me.
Hopefully FedEx delivers yours w/o probs!
It says you'll get yours on october after you preordered?
@@fluffypotato7475 guarantee it says after October. Ordering today I bet it will be about a year like for everyone
Oh that's not happening. I pre-ordered mine July 17th and says September-October. You'd be better off buying one off ebay if you want to have it by 2024.
Oh sweet sweet innocent child, thinking you’ll be receiving a steam deck in October after just reserving it.
How we all thought we’d get our steam deck in an reasonable amount of time and not a year later after pre ordering it the minute it came out.
Almost one year and I’m still a few months away from receiving mine
That intro was hilarious. The faces people make nowadays for thumbnails 😂
Both are huge winners for handhelds. Mostly for their price point and useability but still waiting for my Steam Deck order, cant wait to get mine. Awesome video dude
I wanted a Steam Deck, but when I heard the battery life situation I think i'll wait for a revision. I might as well just keep using my gaming PC. I love the Switch because not only is it portable but it lasts a really long time
As someone who works in IT, I've ditched PC gaming due to the annoying complexity that it has. It's not as simple as popping a CD/cartridge into the console and boom, plug and play. Older games sometimes have compatibility issues and I'm not going to talk about how much more comfortable consoles are, let alone the tinkering one has to do when games are poorly optimized. This leads me to the issue I have with the Deck and the reason why I'd never buy one - when you buy a game on the Switch, you know it will work. You know the devs will put the time and effort to make a nice port. Case and point is The Witcher 3 - the game does not look amazing - but it's the full version and it plays really well. On the Deck, it's a different story. Are we expecting that devs will put in the extra time to make the game run smooth on the Deck or will users have to adapt to the graphical settings/stutter games might suffer?
Regarding the battery life - I had no idea the Deck only lasted about an hour if playing big triple A games. When work requires, I have to fly to other countries and most flights take over 4 hours. The Switch comfortably lasts the entire flight. Furthermore, if I'm home, I can spend the whole morning in the sun lounger without having to even worry about charging the console. That's a VERY big plus.
Regarding the Deck being able to emulate games - that's fun and all but... why would someone emulate the Nintendo Switch's games (besides the single-player games)? For example, in Pokémon you don't have access to the most recent updates, can't complete raids with anyone, and can't battle anyone online. What's the point of playing an emulated version of Animal Crossing: New Horizons if you don't have access to community creations, if you can't visit other people's islands? The same goes for Mario Kart, Mario Party, Smash Bros, Splatoon. The console and most of it's first party games are literally designed to be enjoyed by multiple people at once, that's why the kick-stand exists.
The Deck will come and go and the Switch will still be the best portable choice.
@@pixelmentia Thank you for your input. Most of my friends and colleagues who worked in IT also ditched PC gaming once they started working. When one has but a few hours to play a day, the tinkering really feels like an annoying chore rather than a fun investigation - so I totally understand where your frustration comes from.
I really hope that the Steam Deck succeeds because I'd love to see the return of a Sony handheld system.
Have a good day mate.
A lot of games that aren't verified work great too.
KOTOR 2 feels like it was designed to run on the Deck.
I was surprised that it uses cloud save and sync too, wasn't expecting that from such an old game
It's been getting lots of updates on PC.
I agree. It’s absurd, that even five years after release we’re expected to pay full retail price for games when the option to save via cloud isn’t a function. Frustrating for sure.
Yeah plus there are always good sales on the steam store I picked up gta 5, Skyrim and the mirrors edge collection on sale
@@therunawaykid6523 probably for less than one Nintendo game too
I regret buying a switch because the games are WAY too expensive, especially third party stuff.
@@therunawaykid6523 definitely disappointing but physical copies still hold their value so even GameStop will fetch you a decent cash trade-in for a 6 year old game
I really like this match up comparison. Very level headed and did a good job mentioning pros and cons of both systems
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Two things: The steamdeck is WAY less weight than I thought. We played on a large 70" TV (Sony) and running at 43FPS with MechWarrior it was amazing (battery life just shy of 90 minutes). The nintendo is a great gaming device, the joycons are horrible for me, I had to go to a pro controller as my hands are more like shovels. I truly enjoy both, I think the nintendo switch is due for some hardware upgrades but the OLED 7" is perfectly fine for grandpa if I wear my glasses hehehehe
I’m getting a water fried leather case for my deck. Because I’m a super facial pretty boy who wants people to think I’m sophisticated…
I feel like this is the right direction and the steam deck has a lot more potential, especially if you know how to tinker with it. Whereas the Nintendo feels like out the box for a younger audience is better and I feel like if I had to buy one it would be the switch for the games, price and more portable.
The one thing I don't think you took into account is that you can connect up to like 6 pairs of joycons to your switch no matter if it's in docked mode or not. So you can take it on the go with a Bluetooth speaker and multiple joy cons and still have a good multi-player experience
@Crunch Bar and again as I said one pair of controllers on switch is technically two controllers in 1 so yeah please learn ghr difference between unlimited controlelr connections. My point was buy 2 pairs and you get 4 possible controllers for games without having to buy 4 separate pairs of controllers lol
@Crunch Bar lmao it literally does just because you're uncomfortable with it doesn't mean everybody else is. But I guess condescending douchebags don't understand the premise behind opinions 👍🏾
@Crunch Bar "I-it doesn't count" lmao he's absolutely right, just because you like the Steam Deck more doesn't mean you gotta deny everything that's good about the Switch.
@@OxygenC2like?
First, your joke about thumbnails made me chuckle, as a fellow content creator, then your nuanced opinion made me think "wow finally someone who gets it and doesn't just list features and say "well clearly X wins because my own personal preferences matter more" and you take each side and who the devices are made for. So yeah, amazing video, subbed :)
I used kickstand yesterday to 1v1 a friend in smash and is convenient to just have that option
So far this is one of the best Deck- Switch comparison videos I've seen 👍🏼
I agree with your overall sentiment that the deck is just sooo good in comparison. But i will say to your point about kickstand mode that ive used it before. When i went to my military training when i was switching jobs we got breaks nonstop in between chapters. We'd whip out Mario kart and with 2 systems wed split screen with 4 people. Also if you have kids they straight up dont care about the size. Theyll use it on the go. Overall id still take the deck. Cant wait to get mine. I love gaming on my onexplayer
Some reference for comparing battery life:
Steam Deck: 5310 mAh battery
Switch & Switch OLED: 4310 mAh
Swich Lite: 3570 mAh
So Steam Deck actually has 23% more battery charge than the Switch/OLED.
I have a really new Switch OLED, Nintendo gives 4.5-9 hrs of battery life.
My experience from playing a more demanding game like Breath it's probably average 5 hrs realistically.
If you had a battery in a steam deck that could play Elden Ring for 5 hours, your hands would probably would get too tired from holding the brick in your hands first.
Just plug in a ~30$ higher capacity power bank to 6x your battery life on either console.
I am watching your channel for some time and man, I have to admit, this is so far one of the best channel I am subscribed to. And I am subscribed to many channels :) Keep up the good work.
Yeah I hope this channel gets big, it deserves it!
I bought a switch to play games on the go. I bought a switch Oled. When I go to buy games, seeing some games going for $60 when it has been out for years, is crazy to me. And I'm surprised there isn't more people talking about the price of Nintendo games. That alone put me off. I just spent $350 on a console with games that's been out for years and they don't go down in price at all?! Having a ps5, it just makes me want to spend $60 on there instead of a 5 year old Nintendo game. I'm shocked they can get away with it. So a steam deck just sounds way better. Especially with steam sales. I've been very tempted to return the switch because of how expensive the games are.
Why don't you buy used games?
@@fleetenkieker3445 those prices don't go down either
Aren’t horizon, ratchet and something like 80 dollars at lunch ?
I discovered this channel with your first Steam Deck video and gotta say I really love these videos and subbed!
Yep, the big plus of Steam Deck is the game library.
It's not just because you already have Steam or even Epic, but the price is way lower, especially for old titles.
True, considered also that honestly nintendo eshop titles are overpriced most of the times
Yeah I agree plus there are always great sales on there I got gta 5, Skyrim and the mirrors edge collection all on sale 😉😏
@@ave92me yeah it’s ridiculous full price for Mario bros deluxe is a joke
"these thumbnails man" -> proceeds to use one without that strained expression i love it
One point to add on the storage point is that if you mostly buy cartridges as opposed to digital the internal storage being low is less relevant. As for the kickstand I sometimes use it when I can't use docked mode for whatever reason as a sort of bedside minitv
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I dont get the complaint about cloud saves on switch cuz i dont think most people who already own a normal switch would also buy a lite to take it outside, since the whole point of the normal switch is that it works both ways
@5:27 when you said you barely understand anything is the moment I subscribed thanks to your honesty! Really wish my Steam Deck purchase button would activate soon! I pre-ordered in July 2021 and still have a Q3 2022 wait! As much as I love my Switch, I'm pretty sure I'm going to love the Steam Deck better. I didn't even know XBOX Game Pass was possible on it. That's a winner to me. Steam games, XBOX games, and retro games??! The clear winner is the Steam Deck.
Also... Switch has gyro controls too... And they are pretty great... As for kickstand mode I personally don't use It, but my daughter used It to play Arms with her friend while in the hotel. It was good.
Steam Deck has gyro, soooo... The only thing it's missing is the kickstand, which you can get with a third party case.
It’s not nearly the same execution
It's important to note, the Switch may have gyro controls, but you can't use the gyro controls in most games. However, with the Steam Deck you can have gyro support in every single game without needing developer support, even on very old games when gyro didn't even exist.
@@TechSpaceCowboy I'd argue if the steam controller is how the gyro operates vs the switch that SD does it better.
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18:22 I definitely Do not torrent illegally mostly from fitgirl repack.
A good ole kickstand smash tourney with the boys is honestly fun!😅
People seem to forget about the switch lite. $200 and games are on sale all the time on the eshop
Honestly, I don't usually end up buying games from eShop sales because the big first party releases almost never go on sale and the 3rd party games are basically always better on my PC (and soon deck).
That being said, it's definitely not a bad deal if that's all you're playing on
Steam Deck made me forget Switch existed, which I expected. It also made me forget my very new overstepped PC build... that was unforeseen. I only boot my PC up for VR now.
Love my OLED Switch. I have the dock wall mounted next to my TV, play in handheld, play with kickstand (way better on oled) when just sitting at dining room table just being lazy. Kids keep saying “get a gaming pc” (mac user) but I don’t want to spend that much money so the Steam Deck sounds perfect for me both for price and the ton of games that the switch just can’t handle. Great review. Thanks!
Gaming pc still way better than steam deck and not as expensive as you’re making it.
Switch is unique tho because u can have a pc/steam deck and still have use for your switch.
If you’re a casual gamer and don’t care about other pc stuff then just get a steam deck.
@@OminousBlast maybe I’m looking too expensive. What should a basic gaming pc run? I’m definitely open to options, just didn’t know of one in a similar-ish price range.
@@OminousBlast I disagree, casuals should get a switch as there is no configuration necessary. The steam deck is more aimed towards pc enthusiasts.
When I tried to buy a Switch I couldn't find one even close to MSRP. Scalpers had them all and were selling on Amazon. You have to have a valid Steam account to buy one Steam Deck at a time. You pay a set price to Steam and they guarantee them. I'm glad I didn't buy a Switch from a scalper.
Was looking for reviews on the NYXI controller for the switch yesterday and immediately subscribed after watching yours. Really been enjoying your content. Anyways as for myself, I travel alot and often find myself on long flights or places with poor to no internet. The Switch is perfect for this due to the portability and battery life. Not to mention it has a vast library of games which are often on-sale on the eshop It is definitely time Nintendo upgraded their hardware however as I would love to play the newer titles on the switch. If the steam deck improved their battery life, I'd probably get one, but for now I'm good with my oled. Appreciate the review and keep up the good work 👍
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agree 💯🤌🏽
For 5 years, I owned a Nintendo switch. It was really fun, I had fun with my friends. In 2021 I just stopped. The games felt old and for little kids. I wasn't interested in a small indie game or new final fantasy, or a mid AAA game that was terribly overpriced and not ported well. Plus everything in the switch looked bad. It wasn't till late 2022. I found out about the steam deck. I was curious and found out it could run games at a solid speed and actually had a huge library of fun games I liked like black ops, Elden ring, 2k, War thunder, etc etc. I immediately bought one and sold my switch. I gotta admit it was really expensive and knowing storage would be a problem was a downer. But once it arrived I was blown away. Doom eternal at 60 frames at high graphics? Linux? Roblox? Xbox? I became obsessed with it until I found out 2 things. 1: the dock sucks, and 2: Extremely unstable. The dock is way overpriced. Plus I have a 4k TV and seeing how bad it looked scaled at 1280x800 killed me inside. I then tried to upscale the resolution to 4k, but then cringed in 5fps and freezing every 5 seconds. I went down to 1920x1080 to find stable 30 fps. I found gamescope which massive improved my frames to stable 60 in almost every game. Next, the steam deck is really unstable. It crashes frequently, corrupted files, black screen, slow menu. It drove me insane. I had to watch some videos to fix it.
In conclusion, Steam deck was much better for me because I could play any game (even my old nintendo games) and actually have good performance unless on a TV. But since the steam deck is so open built, your gonna run into alot of problems but I say it's worth your money.
As a OTR trucker I love my switch OLED! Hell, I even use the kickstand with it while using a 3rd party controller. But I will love my Steam Deck when I get that bad boy and I'llbe playing the fuck out of it!
13:05 He became Flynn from breaking bad for a few seconds holy fuck
My friend used to bring his switch with a ton of controllers to school and in breaks we would play smash bros
Its not really comparable for me because the switch is a home console. I've had it since launch day and have used it handheld for a total of maybe 10 hours. The overwhelming majority of time I've used it docked. That tells me that if I had a steam deck it would get zero use because I would just use my computer
I think the gyroscope thing on the Steam is a pretty amazing feature, and as a bonus, I guess it also somehow protects the analog stick (you don't need to move the stick that much)
>Switch has 60+ amazing games to play
>Steam has *30,000* amazing games to play... also they cost on average like $10 compared to Switch's $60
Lol don't tell them it's too cheap!!!
Solid opinions though. I feel like Nintendo needs to keep being around to show everyone what they really want, and then another company just does it better. Keeps happening, really. I wonder when they're going to listen to fans. People have been asking for a Switch Pro forever, now someone else made it.
I have a Switch, and the Switch tax really turned me off of it. 7 first party games and I could just buy a Deck. I think it was a good laugh hearing people talk about how the Steam Deck was too expensive. 50 more than OLED Switch, TOO MUCH MONEY... Nintendudes.
HA! Tell them to look up other handhelds like the Aya Neo or the GPD Win X or whatever it’s called, if they think the DECK is too expensive. 😂 SMH.
I agreed with you.. Nintendo usually keep innovating and experimenting with their console..
I completely agree with u. Luckily I’m nodding my switch and I’ll probably buy the steam deck.
The only game I bought that was worth the price was smash bros. The sheer content and skill ceiling in that game is insane. And the 60 dollar dlc was worth it for me but definitely way too overpriced.
For me battery life dictates 80% of my decision in owning a portable handheld. No matter how good it is if its gonna nail me behind a power outlet most of the time then I might as well just play on my PC. I own a switch and the real OG portable PC handhelds( GPD win 1,2 & 3) and I still opt for the switch as my go to platform because having the OLED version could give me 4h30m battery life at the very minimum while on my GPD Win 3 the very minimum it could give is around 2hrs.
And no, I got a steamdeck before. AFAIK I am one of the earliest owners and the very minimum playtime I had with it is 1hr23m with the same everything on my GPD Win 3. So I sold it. 😅
And my go yo portable console to this date is still my ps vita because it can give me a very minimum of 5h30m to this date.
An interesting comparison would also be the nintendo switch lite! I absolutely love mine. Its a great size, the joycons dont feel like they are about to break off. It has a d pad and you can put nice ergonomic cases on it! So nice but it does lose the abulity to cast to the tv. Nonetheless i love it just handheld. I think it also holds up well against the steam deck
I’ve ordered a steamdeck. Excited to play some games. I’m looking forward to playing games and putting it down quickly and starting it back again.
I hope you know Nintendo does have cloud saving meaning you can play your breath of the wild on your big switch and then go to your switch lite and it will be saved through the cloud so you'll be good
Why Nintendo is still outselling all consoles is beyond me.... Low graphics, expensive games. Just the nostalgic vibe
Mabye because the games are good and fun??
Basically, yeah, table mode usually goes really underrated. I played it a few times during flights. Not with friends though. Just put it on a table and held joycons in hands. It really is something ergonomically new - to be able to keep your hands crossed or in the pockets while playing switch with a kick stand.
Yeah 6 years ago it was cool
0:01 i like how he didnt even use that as the thumbnail lmao
Most educational and entertaining video I have watched about the steam deck. Thank you
I absolutely liked my steam deck. Preordered the 512 LCD well before launch, but then I seen an OLED model in person and man, I had to "upgrade". Bought the 512 model OLED and put in a 2tb SSD recommended by toms hardware testing results and I freaking love the thing. From remote playing my series X, PS5 and steam library to pretty much any PC game with moonlight and sunshine, it's super versatile. Not to mention playing almost any PC game natively on it. Then add on top of all that it's emulation capabilities. It's a no brainer for any real gamer imo. I won't even mention how many games I've bought off the steam store since owning the deck(s). Valve really knew what they were doing with this. Hats off to them.
I enjoy the steam deck cheaper games option to play majority of my steam games . And not having to pay for online is a huge plus for me .I will say in my opinion software updates I feel like a beta tester for the steam deck but over all I enjoy the experience . Also keep up the awesome content.
I had the same thoughts it's definitely a test run but anyone who has one(Beta testers) please keep giving your input/feed back so when they release the next version It will be perfect and I will be in line 😁
Yeah it’s so great online is free on pc
Kickstand mode on nintendo is great for me. I drive truck and i often play fifa with people that load or unload my truck when i have free time. Don't even speak same language, doesn't matter, everyone loves fifa
The only "competition" thats similar is aya neo and the GPD win, which are both windows based and imo not worth the price.
Agreed
What about the Ayn odin? Its android from the box but supports windows too. Its quite a bit stronger then the switch and slightly cheaper, it runs all retro emulators up to playstation 2 and wii without problems too.
Availability and price are the most important for me. If I have to order an expensive console online only, I’m not gonna get it. I love the idea of the Steam Deck but because I can’t just go get it from a store and add a memory card to it, it’s a hard pass for me right now.
My biggest gripe with the Switch is the absurdly expensive games.. Time to discount something Nintendo come on… There are very few games that deserve the $60 price tag they still hold.
It would be awesome if Nintendo had subscription options similar to Game Pass and PlayStation Plus.
@@MyCurls_MyCrown I can’t see Nintendo doing that because their first party games sell unlike Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo had multiple games that sold 20-30 millions and they are still selling. Look at Mario kart 8. A game from 2014 is still in the top 10. It sucks but if I was a business why would I lower the price or do a service where my products keep selling.
@@joegardner851 Why do they sell btw? What exactly attracts people to buy first party switch games?
@@jjk5693 I think it comes down to the quality of the games. They make fun games, it’s not complicated or tries to send a message. It’s there for entertainment. With the gen of switch games, you have seen evolution of their popular series. Zelda, Mario, Kirby and even Pokemon.
Most people just want to put in a game and have a good time. That is what gaming is. The concept of the switch is really cool. So more people bought in and want to play games.
I will say one thing about the kickstand with the switch as a recently graduated kid, I know we had tons of slow days in school, and often times students would bring in their switches and they would use the kickstand to play smash, so I do know a multitude of people who used the kickstand to game, and I even use it on occasion as a new switch owner.
That outro hit me hard. I'm about to go on a trip myself and can't decide whether to bring my switch or my gaming laptop
12:30 Switch actually has cloud saves for most games INCLUDING BOTW with automatic back ups and restoring. they usually don't support cloud saves for games were people can use dupe glitches or cheat in online ones, but BOTW does actually have cloud saves you probably just didn't back it up or turn on automatic cloud saves
Steam also ha cloud saves for majority of games but I lost my Dark Souls 3 save file due to it not supporting cloud saves for STEAM. so it's really the same situation on both devices
Isn't cloud saving a feature you have to pay for?
@@crissuwu2243 Yes, Cloud Saves for the Switch is only if you pay their online subscription. Admittedly though it is cheap compared to like PS+, you just gotta pay $3.99 a month for online functions and the cloud saves.
I think it just depends on what games you like more, Nintendo, party games, or pc games. I personally don’t rlly care for portable games so the steam is not for me bc I’d rather just play on my ps5 when I can but the switch offers something completely different imo.
Hey, dude! Just came across your channel yesterday. Was looking for a review of the Backbone One controller, and your honest assessment was super helpful. Really appreciate your down-to-earth disposition and (healthy) self-deprecating humor. Have since subscribed and watched several more of your related videos. (Huge Nintendo and Apple guy here.)
Hope you are recovering well from the illness. Will be praying for you in the meantime. And am looking forward to supporting you going forward, man! … Beat that algorithm!!
At 17:40 giving the fact than a Xbox series S is only $299 I don’t think the switch price make any since.
Hard to compare with the portability function of the switch
@@TechSpaceCowboy true. but if someone just want a handheld then Steam Deck would be a better bang for your buck.
Did you know you could connect a joy con (or both of them) to the steam deck?
Not sure if that is useful but that is the magic of standard bluethoot and linux.
Don't know the guy but I have to say I'm pretty proud of him doing that intro
thanks for the input/review. i loved my switch when i first bought it but i just felt like there was no games that i liked on it. ive had my deck for about a week and i cant put it down!! i love it man
I’ve used kickstand mode while sitting in the queue for dealer rooms at conventions. You’re often forced to get there early and sit for hours, so having the ability to set up Mario Kart or Smash comfortably is great. I also use it to stand the Switch on my desk when not in use to stop the back getting scratched, but that’s because I’m OCD with hardware… Not a vital function to be sure, but handy.
hot deym you immediately got a like because of the thumbnail.. thumbs up for that effort lol..
Just get a 45 watt battery bank a U shaped USB cable, and a fanny pack, problem solved.
Cigarette adaptor with Bluetooth to FM also means you can rock out your 100 watt car stereo system too.
why they do not design battery like the old days, where you can just switch low battery to a full one, like magazine on a gun
Great video! Hopefully I will be getting my unit soon!
I periodically use my Switch in kickstand mode to watch videos on RUclips. Controlling the app with detached Joy-cons is quite convenient. If only the Switch had more media apps and they aren't clunky.
Nintendo Switch does offer cloud save capability through its paid subscription online service. However, it is not as seamless when compared to Steam, and not every game supports it. Ultimately, the whole Nintendo online infrastructure needs a major update (e.g. entitlement transfer). It sort of works, but it is leagues behind the competition. Come on, Nintendo. I love you and I love the Switch, but we are in 2022, not 2008.
I subscribed purely because you’re a thumbnail cracked me up and you deserve it lol. Keep it up bro!
Great video- thank you! I have a Switch, it’s my first Nintendo console since NES, and I LOVE it. I also have an Xbox Series X (and One X). Between those two consoles/ecosystems, I think it takes care of anything I would want to play outside of a few PlayStation games that interest me (I had a PS4 and sold it actually). However, just about everyone has a cell phone. If you’re going to cloud stream Xbox games, you could just use the Xbox app and multiple options for controls, such as the Razer Kishi. So, if I were to have a Steamdeck, I think it could fill some of the PlayStation gap, but only when those games are made available on PC. Unfortunately, since it’s not a closed ecosystem, there’s no guarantee that the PC games in the store will work or are optimized. That’s where, although enticing, the Steamdeck falls apart for me. I think it’s a badass console though. The controls look fantastic and I love the ergonomic grip on the back. In fact, I had to buy a third party case to get that similar grip on my Switch!
I don’t think either one is better. Knowing what I know about games on Switch, Astral Chain is not a game I would be willing to sacrifice. It’s a top-5 game for me all time, and it’s only on Switch. The same goes of course for Zelda BOTW. Bayonetta 3 is on the way, Mario Odyssey was fantastic, etc. However, if I hadn’t known anything about those games, have zero consoles in my possession and I’m starting from square one with a handheld device, I would buy the Steamdeck. If it were an option in 2017 and I had nothing else, I would look at the controls and graphics and my decision would be made right away. On the flip side, if you have an impressive home console like PS4, PS5, Xbox One S/X or Xbox Series S/X, those will play most of those Steamdeck games better, and then having a Switch for handheld is an excellent complement.
It’s also worth mentioning, if you have a home console, you can stream games to your cell phone, meaning you can have a handheld device for those games too. You can’t take that cloud streaming experience outside of your home and expect it to work, however. Many public Wi-Fi connections are severely limited and mobile streaming will be spotty. In that way, the Steamdeck would be a better experience for sure.
Everyone keeps tring to compare Nintendo products to other companies without realizing Nintendo is first and foremost a toy company. They make products that are fun and thats it.
It's the lack of transferable cloud saves, plus having a Wii U and therefore having played a lot of games I want already on it (MK8, SM3DW, Bayonetta), that has led me to probably being the last person to not have a Switch. I can't believe they still don't have a quick way to transfer saves. I assume if your Switch breaks your saves are tied to your account now, though..?
Nope. Gotta restart unless you pay for Nintendo’s cloud thingy or what not
@@TechSpaceCowboy Man. I'm sure there are people complain you have to be online to even boot up your xbox in the first place, but if that means if that console breaks, all my saves are in the cloud...ok then.
Guess I'll get the next Nintendo console I stead and see if they get it right then, or just buy a Switch then. 🤷🏼♀️
@@TechSpaceCowboy I have the OLED Switch,which has the bigger screen and better kick stand, these are the games I have for it, my Steam Deck has A LOT more games,including all of Metal Gear Solid,the Far Cry Collection,GTAV,Reddead Redemption and A LOT more, I also have a 30thousand mah portable battery pack, for my Switch and my Steam Deck as well, I've upgraded my Steam Deck A LOT as well, it has 2Tbs of storage and a 1TB micro SD Card, along with a lot of custom software, which I go more into, when I cover my experience with the Steam Deck, these are the games I have on Switch;
The Borderlands collection
The BioShock collection
Sniper Elite 4
Red Faction
Tony Hawk Pro
Skater 1+2
The Doom Collection
Skyrim
Resident evil 0,1,4,5 and 6
Mortal Kombat 11
The Outer Worlds
The Dark Siders Collection;
Genesis, 1,2 and 3
Dark Souls
Dragon Dogma
Kingdoms Of Amalur Re-Reckoning
immortals Fenyx Rising
Subnautica Below Zero
Fire Emblem Warriors
Zelda Breath of the wild
Crysis
The Assassin's Creed Collection/
Assassins creed 2
Assassins Creed Brotherhood
Assassins Creed Revelations
Assassin’s Creed 3 Remastered
Assassins Creed Liberation Remastered
Black Flag
Rogue
Dying Light
World War Z
Dragon Ball Xenoverse
Metro 2033
The Saints Row collection:
The third, IV and all DLC.
The Need For Speed hot pursuit remastered
Fast RMX
Lego City undercover
Lego DC Super Villains
Vampyr
Monster Hunter collection
God Eater 3
Ninja Gaiden Collection
Destroy All Humans
Ghost Busters
Man Eater
Hades
Dead Cells
Enter The Gungeon
BloodStain Ritual Of The Night
OddWorld Collection
Shantae Half Genie Hero
Hollow Knight
Shovel Knight Treasure Trove
Celeste
Blue Fire
Persistence
Astral Chains
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
Sword Art Online
Digimon Cyber sleuth Complete edition
Everspace Stellar Edition
GTA Trilogy
Star Wars The Force Unleashed
DCUO
Warframe.
This has been my experiences with the Steam Deck,so far:
Hardware wise I've changed one thing, I bought the 512GB Steam Deck, but I upgraded the storage to a Micron M.2 2230 2TBs of storage and I have a 1TB Sandisk Extreme Pro micro sd card.
I haven't had a problem with any games,I can also create custom button layouts, for all of my controllers/the system will detect, which controller I have plugged in and what game I am loading,so I can use a/any controller, for any game I want.
I have done a lot to my Steam Deck though/ I formated the device though/started from scratch, I cloned the drives, to start with and created some custom drive clones,which I started by running them in emulators,before I installed them back on the Steam Deck, to figure out what I wanted to keep and what I wanted to get rid of and then after everything worked in emulators/emulation, I then tested and optimized everything on the actual Steam Deck.
An optimized/reconfigured version of Steam Decks OS runs on top/in all of this/I kept some of the GUI/Graphical User Interface, but I also added a lot in, where I thought the original Steam Deck's OS was lacking things, but I started with Arch/Manjaro Linux and Windows though,its not dual boot though,they run simultaneously,in real time/its kind of hard to explain, but they kind of run in a sleep mode and when a certain thing/task needs to be done, that portion of the OS wakes up,its more efficient than just running Windows/its better on performance/battery life and processing power and it allows me to be able to run what ever I need or want to, I'll go into some of the tools that I use, to make this happen,but A LOT of this is my own code/IFTTT, on top of these tools, I also have to deal with permissions and root,while keeping security in check,meaning I still maintain a secure system and the reason I've done it this way, is for performance.
So,like I've already said, a custom version of Steam Deck's OS runs on top of all of this,kind of like when you have Ubuntu installed and you want cinnamon's desktop/GUI environment, so you type in a terminal on Ubuntu, sudo apt install cinnamon or on Arch/Manjaro,its sudo pacman -S cinnamon gnome-terminal,but you also need lightdm/icon themes and what not too, but you get what I'm saying, my custom version of Steam Deck OS runs ontop of all of this/I have Windows on mine,plus full arch/Manjaro Linux,with some add ons, for support for debian based Linux and support for software, I use a combination of A LOT of things, with some built in IFTTT/If This Than That,example,IF its raining, don't turn on the sprinklers, with that simple mind set, you can accomplish A LOT.
These are some of the tools/software I've used,I've also used some of my own custom code, also I don't pay for any of this, I've just added this,into my own custom code and removed what I didn't like, So what I use is, Steam/Steam Play,obviously,but I also use Wine,CrossOver,GameHub, LutrisGaming,PlayOnLinux,Browsers,Terminals,but I don't use all of any of this/I have mainly just used what I wanted out of the code and ripped out what I didn't want,its kind of an OS at this point/its built into the core of the device,I only update the parts I want as well,meaning if I don't like something in an update, I won't update that portion of the update,I don't know if I've violated any user licenses, but the device just works now, no matter what I'm trying to do,meaning I can work from the device,the only thing it doesn't do well,while maintaining performance, but I wouldn't want it to do this anyway,because it would use up A LOT of its resources/power, it can't emulate multiple OSs at the same time, while doing a lot of tasks,I reserve these tasks for my laptops one has an I9, 3080 and my other laptop has a Xeon W-11950H VPro processor and an Nvidia RTX A5000 Max-Q 16GB, they both also have 128GB of RAM and three 2TB SSDs and a 7200RPM 6TB hardrive,so 12TBs of storage, they both also have Linux Manjaro AND Windows on it.
It hasWIFI 6 AND 4G LTE built in as well.
The reason I need this much power, is to test my code, in multiple emulators, simultaneously, also gaming.
This is what else I've done to my Steam Deck and how I use it, at times, I plug it into a monitor/I can use peripherals/keyboards,a mouse, any controller/Xbox 360,Xbox One,PS4,PS5,thats mainly what I've tried/added drivers for/custom mapping and so on for, so far, but I've also added support for,Codecs,Image Viewers,Image Processors,Image Compression,Editors,FontEditors,anyway you get the idea, I've added support for basically everything and customized everything,the device no longer has limits, from a software aspect/perspective,the device also knows what its being plugged into, meaning, IF I plug it into a TV/Monitor/a specific monitor/TV, it knows what I want the environment to look like/it has a custom desktop/UI/User Interface/GUI/Graphical User Interface, depending on,what im plugged to/what I have plugged in/when it sees a certain display,it configures the system a certain way,if I plug in another peripheral, it knows/sees that and may change the GUI configuration/even functionality, based on what it knows, I'm trying to do, more If This Than That,it also has voice control too/I can say, open this specific program/Software/APP/it has Android support as well/like I said, ANYTHING I want to run on it, can be ran, it also knows, if a legacy piece of software is trying to be ran, so it can emulate that environment or use a form of compatability mode, so it can run the code/software,either by recreating it all together/emulating it or using legacy software to run the software or a combination of both. Anyway I'm really liking the device so far, by doing things this way though,I won't know when developers add support for certain things/for me basically after the first month,everything just worked, it took me ABOUT a month, to get everything working perfectly/flawlessly, every single time,at this point I would trust the OS to run a server,it has, If This Than Thats, for every scenario, A LOT of my IFTTT is backed up,so anytime I get a new system, I put them on my new system, I have SOME custom ones,but I have some in a universal folder/these IFTTTs work on any system, also I'm not talking about IFTTT,I'm just talking about the mentality/action,meaning the code could be in C/C++,Assembly,Python,Java Script HTML/CSS,PHP and so on,when I'm talking about IFTTT,I'm just talking about the mentality,its what allows me to work only 4 hours a day, seven days a week.
Anyway so far this has been a really good system,but I honestly can't tell people that, because I'm not running the software it was shipped with/I've customized basically everything about the Steam Deck.
@@mattmatt2417 you had fun writing that
I guess I'm still the only person that doesn't use the cloud LOL. I have servers/a good many, but, I own the hardware/servers/I don't pay a subscription,I use the cloud/Internet,for my servers, but I don't rely on other peoples servers/internet, when it comes to back ups.
Also all of that is set to save to my servers,also my VMs/Virtual Machines/emulators,either run locally or in the cloud, but from my own servers, also when it comes to the Switch specifically, all you have to do is drag and drop files,but I have all that automated too/backed up, to my own servers and I can connect to them/push data to the console, anyway all of this can be automated, no big deal, I do the same thing with Steam too,I had an issue with Assassins Creed Black Flag one time, with my save file, so I'm never using anyone elses servers, anymore EVER,that was annoying,especially after playing the game for like 20 hours.
Anyway automating all of this stuff your self isn't hard to do.
I use the kickstand on my switch when I'm using it to watch a SpaceTechCowboy video 💯💯
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I actually use the Kickstand mode very often, even if playing alone. Sometimes it is just comfortable to detach the joy cons (one in each hand) and play the switch just tabletop.
The features you mention about the controller itself of the steam deck were already with us for years: Steam controller :). Best controller ever
"not super easy to change them (joysticks)".. "you MIGHT be able to open it up and change them".. "youre stuck with the bad joysticks if they break"...
Valve literally designed and built the steamdeck to be 100% fully user replaceable. In ability and in parts.. Valve teamed with Ifixit and released standalone joysticks (and many other parts) so anyone who had any issue whatsoever could buy the part and with a few screws and following official guides you could replace the joysticks (or screen, or frame, or ssd, or wifi card, or speakers, or battery......)
so where are you getting "might" and "maybe" with fixability of the steamdeck? it was literally designed to be able to be fixed in the future.. This is the FIRST console in the history of gaming who's company made it so you can fix your hardware with no bullshit attached to it..
"The switch has modularity.. you can buy new joycons or third party grips"
The steamdeck is literally a full x86 PC............. Which means you can buy any anything and plug it in or bluetooth it on.. including any controller from the millions of products that exist... wether it be usb or even stock controllers from legacy gaming consoles (with adapters to convert their proprietary plugs to usb).. there are a couple grips for the switch.. cool... There are literally millions of products that are compatible with pc..
I agree with all the points made, however before my wife and I had a child, on long train and plane trips we would use kickstand mode and have a blast. Outside that we would never use it however
The key difference in this comparison is that many of us already have an extensive library of triple-A games on Steam, and with the Steam Deck, we can enjoy replaying them and also take advantage of the numerous game sales on the platform. On the contrary, Nintendo Switch games tend to be quite expensive, and even older Nintendo games rarely go on sale. In my opinion, it's a no-brainer that the Steam Deck comes out on top in this battle.
Great video! I just wanted to share my experience with the Deck's battery life, as it varies quite a bit from yours.
I tend to play older AAA games and indies, so for me I usually get around 4 hours minimum, and 7-8 hours maximum. For example, playing Fallout New Vegas will get me 4 hours, while playing something like Stardew Valley will get me around 7.
Even with more intense AAA games, like The Witcher 3, I find myself getting about 3 to 3 and a half hours after tinkering with it. The only games that fall into the 2 hours or less range in my experience are newer AAA games like GoW and Spider-man.
Again tho, great video! I'll definitely be checking out the channel.
Edit: Also, to answer your question, I used the Switch's kickstand back in high school to play Mario Kart with a friend during breaks. Not the best experience, but better than nothing.
I don’t actually think it’s fair to compare the two despite some obvious similarities. You need to take into considerarion that one is half a decade old and the other is a modern, compact PC.
I’ve used the kickstand once for Mario Kart with friends on a car ride from NYC to Philly and then again to play some Street Fighter at a bar (I used the 8-BitDo 6-button pads for that). It’s a cool idea that would have been a lot neater back in middle school but maybe not the best for adult gamers.
Thanks for the Video. I have the switch and I like it. Having to buy all new games at 50+ each, kind of aggravates me, but it is what it is. Having the Deck with all my games I already paid for in my library and being able to play them on the go... Priceless!
Plus I'm in my car 8+ hours a day, Driving from site to site. I have some downtime at times and being able to continue a game where I left off at home in my car... Priceless! To me, it's a no brainer having the deck.
One of my major concern also is the ghost movement on the steam since it is fixed on the body of the unit. Switch has really bad joystick ghost movement :c
For me personally, I don't really see the point in buying a steam deck if I already own a Switch Oled. The only games I want to play handheld and on the go are games like the mario franchise, pokemon or zelda. Everything else I can just play on my Xbox series X or Ps5. In saying that though I have a switch Oled and have never played it in hand held and have never used the joy con's... mine went straight to the dock and I had two switch pro controllers ready to go