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  • Master the art of stealth and strategy with this Ultimate Thief Build for Baldur's Gate 3. Explore a fusion of Bard and Rogue tactics, and learn how to harness powerful spells, skills, and items for unparalleled versatility. Ideal for adventurers eager to challenge the realms of Faerun and dominate in both solo and group gameplay.
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  • @yaluebillustration2388
    @yaluebillustration2388 Месяц назад +1

    This is the arcanic trickster we all dreamed of !
    Thank you for making an inteded class actually work. Absolutely love the bbuild !

  • @purydango
    @purydango 4 месяца назад +8

    Dont kill that ox, just hit him, and disengage. You will lose reputation with him, but if you talk to him, you will get the "this person does not like you very much, maybe a gift would" dialogue. There you can trade it with him

  • @amyranth44
    @amyranth44 4 месяца назад +2

    Hey, that's some slick editing Firespark! Love the character thought bubbles.

  • @freman007
    @freman007 4 месяца назад +6

    Just as an aside the Hunter's Dagger is a renewing item, so you can buy them from Roah every time her inventory refreshes.
    You don't need to kill the Strange Ox. You just have a Mage Hand attack him while the rest of your party hides (I use the prison area).
    Once the Ox and the Tieflings kill the Hand you can talk to the Ox with the Hand's controller.
    He will have a low opinion of you, so open a trade window so you can give him gold, but instead his ring will be right there for you to buy for about 200 gold. That means you can still get the Hat of Fire Acuity in Act 2.

  • @a_tremereandsomeblood_just3642
    @a_tremereandsomeblood_just3642 3 месяца назад +1

    I startet watching your videos from Valheim (one of the best games ever - waiting for more content), but all the games you making videos off are games i like to play. Yout inside to the mechanics of games is allways great, so i never failed following your guides. The only time i was messing was when i tried Valheim with fists only - not that it is impossible it was just tedious^^ I stoped that character for now after the Darkwood Forest Boss.

  • @paulbennett6914
    @paulbennett6914 4 месяца назад +9

    I think this would be better as a Bard 6/ rogue 4/ fighter 2. Fighter gives you longbows, shields, archery fighting style, con save proficiency, all the armors and action surge. That is better than anything you get going bard 8. Also, you can get the ring from Oliver that lets you cast pass without trace. Gives you +10 to stealth and covers your concentration slot.

  • @Jakepf
    @Jakepf 4 месяца назад +44

    What i like to do is just buy everything in the traders stock, then just steal the gold back. So it's easier than trying to roll every item

    • @bobbaker6495
      @bobbaker6495 4 месяца назад +2

      Yes I do this over and over even without this build. I go ranger rogue and get that sharpshooter feat. Having 100 multi target arrows and more than 1 action is OP

    • @Jakepf
      @Jakepf 4 месяца назад

      @@bobbaker6495 wait really? 100 multi-target arrows?? I haven't tried that setup yet!

    • @LoreFoundry
      @LoreFoundry Месяц назад

      Idk. Before I traveled to the underdark and mountain pass, completing only the initial area. My Halfling Thief Baggins Legerdemain acquired 22k gold, and copies of most +1 weapons.

  • @Patrious_WoW
    @Patrious_WoW 4 месяца назад +1

    this is great, my favorite class in the game is Bard, so i will give this a try

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      Bard is one of the strongest classes. Hope you enjoy the build!

  • @championkg9965
    @championkg9965 4 месяца назад +4

    you can make it into melle build with eversight ring to make yourself immune to blindness , just go close to enemy disengage to make fog than enemy is blinded giving you advantage. i do suggest to turn off attacks of oppurtunity though as when youre hiding in fog and enemy passes through it you attack going out of hide mode. with more enemies you can die quickly that way.

  • @jaxsonfanta5420
    @jaxsonfanta5420 4 месяца назад +3

    I love sword Bard build.... Solo'd honor mode with one... with that being said I have a few adjustments to your build that I personally would make, although I love the idea of going rogue for the bonus actions...
    Dream with me for just a minute: Race... Elf... Can't beat Longbow proficiency... The free cantrip can be any of the following: Minor illusion, Mage Hand, friends, light. Background, go urchin...
    But Halfling works really well here considering they have the lucky feat. With all of the checks Bards are rolling with slight of hand and being the face of the party (AKA Persuading, intimidating, and performing..) they can forego the Longbow, and opt with wielding dual crossbows instead? Sharpshooter and already having advantage in stealth checks as a lightfoot halfling means urchin is really strong from the get go (Lucky feat, and advantage on stealth.)
    Level 1 we're almost identical except I have charm person instead of jump and thunderwave instead of feather fall. Healing word is exceptional. I also have the friends cantrip instead of vicious mockery, but I do understand that vicious mockery is very BARD. Featherfall potions and scrolls are found way to easily to justify picking it. Heroisim, sleep, and tashas hideous laughter are really good picks for your other spell, but longstrider is a must. Disguise self you can get through the hat if you have the dlc... but it would make a fine level 2 spell choice. Potions of speak with animal, and scrolls of speak with the dead as well as the amulet found in the very beginning of act 1, guarantee I won't be picking those spells..
    Level 3 is where you and I differ extremely.... Enhance ability (as well as all of the cool act 1 sleight of hand items you get) is where this build comes to life and you become the most busted thief as soon as you get it. Just cast Enhance Ability - Cat's grace on yourself and viola advantage on dex ability checks (Sleight of hand, acrobatics, stealth... but we're here for mostly the slight of hand.)
    If you are soloing this playthrough, then that means you can't cast guidance on yourself since both enhance abilitiy and guidance are concentration spells. But enhance ability lasts all day, so assuming you don't lose concentration, Cat's Grace gives you advantage on all dex checks, all day, so with all of the items you get in act 1 and expertise on slight of hand with a dex of 17-18 (Hag's hair) I was averaging about a 28-35 on slight of hand checks at level 3.... I was able to stealing everything... Excluding gold (even then I'd still steal their gold quite frequently) from any vendor with impunity. Steal all the powerful arrows, scrolls, potions and poisons, and supply packs that you can, long rest, and all of the vendors stuff restocks every night. Rinse and repeat, but your bard is also a beast on the battlefield, and I wasn't really using his spell slots for anything other than utility.
    Level 1, 2 my spells would be longstrider, healing word, thunderwave, sleep, charm person.
    Level 3 Enhance ability, and get rid or sleep at this point for something else.
    Getting Bard to Level 5 ASAP is super important as a swords bard so you can restore Bardic inspirations on short rests. Level 4... I went Sharpshooter.
    My final critique is: Expertise into stealth doesn't feel necessary.......... Persuasion and Slight of hand should be just fine.... But then again I haven't done this with levels in rogue.... I may correct myself later. I also love sharpshooter, so being so stealthy that you get advantage super often with 2 crossbows and flourishing shot seems even more broken than sword bard already is....
    We completely agree on skills.... That is how you want to play and build your Bard... Urchin is absolutely the best background.
    If you aren't soloing, then shadowheart can still cast guidance on you... But after all that, I definitely want to try a Bard rogue combo.... Seems Broken!! Assassin and theif both seem crazy in combo with this.
    So I'm going to try this build out and come back to this video a few weeks from now: I'll tell people if I felt like it worked well.
    Dual crossbow lightfoot halfling Bard: Abilities were the same as in the video: 8 str 17 dex 14 con 8 int 10 wis 16 char
    Background: Urchin
    Cantrips: Minor illusion, friends
    Spells: Thunderwave, Charm Person, Heroism (Better cure wounds on self,) Healing Word
    Build order will go something like: Bard 4 (Swords Bard/Sharpshooter feet/dueling specialist) Rogue 4 Theif.. ASI Max Dex) Ranger 3 (Gloomstalker/Archery specialist) Bard 5 (Font of inspiration, Level 3 spells.) Instead of That final level into bard, maybe I could do a War Cleric level (sanctuary level 1 spell and bonus action attacks plus medium armor) Light Cleric Level (Warding flare, Sanctuary) or a tempest sorcerer level (Bonus Action Flight, Blade ward) or Ranger 4 for a feat to round off that odd final level.
    I will be excited to let you know in a few weeks how this build works, I suspect it will be one of my strongest ever. Thank you for the ideas and guidance!

  • @sesimie
    @sesimie 4 месяца назад +2

    So I've played Summoners, Tanks, Unarmed, Throwers.... now it's time to solo Dark Urge Honour mode with a Stealth Archer build...This is the one! Great build Firespark!

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      Thank you! And good luck!

  • @tamsuskaralius835
    @tamsuskaralius835 4 месяца назад +5

    Seeing as this is a thief build, it's best to use the level up/long rest resetting the shop method to obtain several elixir of hill giant which sets strength to 21 instead of using the club of giant strength. You can then equip a better weapon for melee that is either Strength or Dex based. You also get more inventory space. Also, if you're going to kill the strange ox, wait until Act 2. Another thing, disguise yourself as a halfling or make your starting race halfling to get lucky that rerolls nat 1s in the extreme case that you miss both dice rolls. Granted, it'd be better to just save before you steal something then just save scum the stealing. While alert is great, you could make your level 1 ranger to get longbow proficiency.

    • @wyvern7456
      @wyvern7456 3 месяца назад

      hello i'm brand new to the game, is there any reason to wait until act 2 to kill the cow ?

    • @cocobear285
      @cocobear285 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@wyvern7456 yes. You don't get the loot if he is killed in act 1.

  • @Ak_maker05
    @Ak_maker05 4 месяца назад +3

    Do you think you could do a dark urge thief build? If a good one is possible

  • @brewskie
    @brewskie 4 месяца назад +1

    Just want to point out, as I am sure others have, you do not have to long rest using your food stores to reset the vendors but you can partial rest, using no food, and do the same thing.

  • @Vognar6
    @Vognar6 4 месяца назад +9

    On the very early game, before you get to the mountain pass, you can get a pair of gloves that gets you advantage for stealing things. They're absolutely f'ing op with your build.

    • @captainflare_
      @captainflare_ 4 месяца назад

      Where

    • @rlcbofficial871
      @rlcbofficial871 4 месяца назад

      @@captainflare_the same guy who sells the titan string bow has them

    • @UrbanNilssonOssian
      @UrbanNilssonOssian 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, Advantage is much better than +1 in Sleight of Hand.

    • @rlcbofficial871
      @rlcbofficial871 4 месяца назад +1

      @@UrbanNilssonOssian with that armor set you’re already getting advantage, those gloves are only better till you get the armor

  • @heathengypsy
    @heathengypsy 4 месяца назад +1

    If you are going to use the diadem of arcane synergy then you might want to make sure that bard is the last level you took, otherwise it will go off your rogue spellcasting modifier which is intelligence.
    There's also an easier way to get the shapeshifter ring that doesn't kill the ox, have everyone but a hireling remain at the camp, send the hireling to start combat with the ox and let the ox unalive the hireling. (make sure the rest of your party is at camp so they don't get caught up in the fight) then have Withers resurrect the hireling and send them back to the ox with around 200 gold on them, have them initiate conversation with the ox and you'll have the option to make amends with the ox by giving them something, this opens its inventory which means you can buy the ring from the ox.

    • @freman007
      @freman007 4 месяца назад

      You can do that with a Mage Hand as well, while your party hides in the prison area.
      Once the Hand is dead talk with the Ox with the Hand's controller.

  • @valenniacosplay
    @valenniacosplay 3 месяца назад +5

    Gloves of Thievery (can be purchased from zhentarim vendor after you gain zarys's favor) is a lot better for stealing than Gloves of Power imo as it grants advantage on every sleight of hand roll

    • @timfriday9106
      @timfriday9106 3 месяца назад +2

      the cats grace from the graceful cloth gives you advantage on sleight of hand already. I agree, swapping gloves for a plus 1 is meh, so I typically don't. But, for those difficult 17+ rolls, I'll swap'em out to decrease save scumage. =P

  • @EmperorSteele
    @EmperorSteele Месяц назад

    Instead of relying on the chair leg which is near the end of act 1, use the vendor reset trick to get Elixers of Giant Strength (21 vs 19) from Auntie Ethel in the grove (have to do this before you venture south towards the swamps).
    Yes, she's hard to use stealth around/steal from, but just buy the elixers and steal money from the other two vendors to more than make up for the financial loss.

  • @azieldemous7924
    @azieldemous7924 3 месяца назад +3

    Weird I can't seem to add the skill point into perception from performance what's going on?

  • @themonkeyking5
    @themonkeyking5 4 месяца назад +2

    The only problem with going elf is that you don't have sheild proficiency unless you take a dip into fighter or cleric.

  • @user-wv8yk3xu4h
    @user-wv8yk3xu4h 4 месяца назад

    Yeah, i love this build, this has been a dnd staple over the years , minus the cheesy stuff ofcourse, hehe. Consider dropping the 4th rogue level and s feat for some wizard or cleric spellcasting versatility if you want to focus on more spellcasting late game with the helm of acuity and band of mystic scoundrel.

  • @majorlouis956
    @majorlouis956 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video Mr firespark you know what would be good if you could test to 2 hands swords or two handed weapons for the Paladin act 2 cos I can't get my head around the damage on on these beautiful and the armour the armour for this game is beautiful I loved your Conan series, big respect 😍

    • @majorlouis956
      @majorlouis956 4 месяца назад

      As there is no testing videos for these weapons cos I struggle to understand how dices work even though I'm playing on tactician I don't think I'm a good I just like to have all the info so I can rock and roll

  • @Akantorz
    @Akantorz 4 месяца назад +3

    Easier method for the Ox kill:
    1) Defeat Goblin leaders.
    2) wait till you see all the tieflings packing up.
    3) Strange Ox should now be all by itself in the same spot.
    4) Nuke without reprecussions.
    Your welcome.

    • @freman007
      @freman007 4 месяца назад

      Killing Ox in Act 1 deprives you of one of the most powerful items in the game, the Hat of Fire Acuity which you can loot from it in Act 2.
      Just attack it with a Mage Hand while the rest of your party hide in the prison area. When the Hand is dead talk to the Ox with the Hand's controller. It'll open a trade screen so you can buy its approval, but instead you can just buy its ring.

  • @davidwoods1582
    @davidwoods1582 4 месяца назад +1

    Killing the ox is easier if you complete the goblin camp and while everyone is packed up and ready to leave. You can find the ox by himself

  • @yohanes2034
    @yohanes2034 4 месяца назад +1

    Instead of gloves of power, there’s gloves of baneful striking that you can get from merchant outside the creche. That gloves will give 100% bane effect on weapon hit instead of “possibly” provided by gloves of power.
    Though this is the 1st time I know that gloves of power only works for branded characters

    • @heathengypsy
      @heathengypsy 4 месяца назад

      those gloves go perfectly with band of the mystic scoundrel as the bane effect from the gloves specifically effects the saving throws against spells.

  • @autisonm
    @autisonm 4 месяца назад +1

    There are gloves in Act 1 called the Gloves of Thievery that give you advantage on all sleight of hand checks. They might not be combat oriented but my Astarion almost never fails sleight of hand checks now. You just need to take the shipment you get from the people that are being attacked by the gnolls to the Zentarim Outpost and give it to the leader (while its still sealed) and then the trader will be allowed to sell you them.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      The chest armor gives you advantage on all dex checks. So those gloves would be good to start but would be quickly replaced once you get the chest piece.

    • @autisonm
      @autisonm 4 месяца назад

      @@Firespark81 Ah I forgot about that. Thought it only gave the +2.

    • @freman007
      @freman007 4 месяца назад

      Gloves of Thievery are the best option until you've completed the Grove/Goblin situation and can go into the Mountain Pass without everyone dying.
      Once you have the Graceful Cloth they're relegated to the spare parts bin.

  • @Qabick
    @Qabick Месяц назад +1

    Three Levels in Assassin-Ranger is what makes this build insanely OP and impossible to catch. You also get to then add Pass without Trace which makes you a god for stealing lol. I was being listed as -1 yes thats a NEGATIVE one for rolls to steal things lol so you are guaranteed to steal any arrow, or scroll lower than Very Rare

  • @kwuserfriendly1769
    @kwuserfriendly1769 4 месяца назад +1

    3 rouge / 6 bard / 3 rouge - is what I would recommend 🧐

  • @eqofriendly4300
    @eqofriendly4300 2 месяца назад +3

    You dont need to kill the ox.
    Get Mage Hand.
    Go around the corner near the entrance to the grove.
    Summon Mage Hand
    Go into stealth
    Break it from the party
    Fly to the ox and slap him
    Now when it dies go over to the ox with the person who cast mage hand
    Speak to the ox
    It will ask for a gift. Simply buy the ring.
    Save it till act 2 for the fire acuity hat.

  • @amazingmenace6168
    @amazingmenace6168 4 месяца назад

    Dope video. I’m about to make this build as a drow half elf (the full elves are ugly af) and name him Rrizzt.

  • @QuangNguyen-oy5dh
    @QuangNguyen-oy5dh 4 месяца назад

    For the lv3 Bard @1:45, the skills u chose in stealth and sleight of hand is exclusive for Lore Bard, so according to the guide you're going Sword Bard so don't bother selecting those

  • @reyalsregnava
    @reyalsregnava 4 месяца назад

    Small addition, the spells you steal are your concentration buff, blur, mirror image are your strongest, but there are plenty of options.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      Oh yea for sure. The cantrip is just in there as a buffer so you have a something free to cast whenever as you dont want to just be wasting scrolls constantly. I mean unless you really put in the time to stock up on a boatload of them. Which you can very much do.

  • @PlusTenVictory
    @PlusTenVictory 4 месяца назад +1

    If you make the character as a drow then you can use dancing lights for your concentration. You can replace the guidance necklace with something else

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      You don't want light around you at all ever.

    • @PlusTenVictory
      @PlusTenVictory 4 месяца назад

      @@Firespark81 totally agree 👍
      I was thinking of just throwing the lights somewhere benign, just so you get the psychic damage from the ring.
      However, I’ve got no clue if there’s another useful neck piece for this build to take the place of the guidance one, so it may not be worth taking drow over the other elves that get longbows

    • @freman007
      @freman007 4 месяца назад +1

      Duergar are the best option, because of the unlimited level 5 invisibility.
      I always hire Kree as my Scout/Thief, using a pretty similar build to what is recommended here. My tactician run my Tav is a Duergar too.

    • @PlusTenVictory
      @PlusTenVictory 4 месяца назад +1

      @@freman007 brilliant! I always forget that they exist 😅

  • @foxxknight8847
    @foxxknight8847 4 месяца назад +2

    Okay, watched the video but I don't suppose we can get a text summary of the build? Can't really follow along over the course of playing the game. XD

  • @MissionSilo
    @MissionSilo 26 дней назад

    Is reverse pickpocket grenades possible?

  • @SDPhantomGamer
    @SDPhantomGamer 4 месяца назад

    The trick with Darkvision is it treats the entire sight cone as a well-lit area regardless of actual light levels. The game's obscurity rules then react by saying it's an automatic detection.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад +1

      Yes it sucks. They dont even have to roll. They should at least roll with advantage.

    • @SDPhantomGamer
      @SDPhantomGamer 4 месяца назад

      @@Firespark81 Does the game engine even support opposed skill rolls? It's not apparent when/if they do it.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      No idea.

    • @SDPhantomGamer
      @SDPhantomGamer 4 месяца назад

      @@Firespark81 I ran some tests by triggering hiding rolls on a few NPCs and looking at the results in the combat log. It appears they take 10 on their rolls and apply their wisdom mod to get the DC.
      For example, a Goblin with 8 WIS has a perception of -1. The DC to hide from them would be 10-1=9.

  • @TheLikkittysplitt
    @TheLikkittysplitt 4 месяца назад +3

    Astarian is the best character for this because he gets the happy bonus and hes an elf so he can use longbows

    • @jaxsonfanta5420
      @jaxsonfanta5420 4 месяца назад

      I always forget about happy.... Very good thinking.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      That is a really good point! I should have done my testing with him. I bet he'd own with this build

  • @YouWantIt1Way
    @YouWantIt1Way 3 месяца назад +1

    Best thief will always be a Halfling

  • @lHAZ4RD
    @lHAZ4RD 4 месяца назад +1

    Did you know there are Gasopods from Subnautica in the Underdark in BG3??

  • @juniormota9507
    @juniormota9507 25 дней назад

    I started as a Thief, this still can work?

  • @NikkZzY420
    @NikkZzY420 2 месяца назад +1

    Skyrims "Stealth Archer" in a nutshell

  • @shredtv8348
    @shredtv8348 20 дней назад +3

    I'm fairly new / a boomer. How are you wearing a shield if you're not proficient in it, also, if you are proficient then how did you accomplish that?

    • @shredtv8348
      @shredtv8348 17 дней назад

      can someone please answer this xD

    • @morgula6669
      @morgula6669 9 дней назад +1

      @@shredtv8348 I think its from bard lvl 3 sub class feature from college of blades wep and armor proffeciny?

    • @morgula6669
      @morgula6669 9 дней назад +1

      @@shredtv8348 or it could be becuase he is a human in this build

    • @dragonflyprince2042
      @dragonflyprince2042 4 дня назад

      At level three you pick college of swords as your subclass then you pick dueling as your fighting style which gives you the shield usage.

    • @dragonflyprince2042
      @dragonflyprince2042 4 дня назад

      @@shredtv8348 At level three you pick college of swords as your subclass then you pick dueling as your fighting style which gives you the shield usage.

  • @BosskV2
    @BosskV2 4 месяца назад +2

    For bard (1) spells I would go with sleep. Sleeping vendors are easier to steal from.

    • @BosskV2
      @BosskV2 4 месяца назад

      Personally I would go with Bard (1), only in the early game for Disguise Self and the Shapeshifter Boon Ring.
      I would then respecc later on in the game as follows:
      Rogue Thief (3)
      Ranger Gloomstalker (5)
      Shadow Monk (3)
      Then add your final level to either monk or thief. You get disguise self from ranger level 3. So respecc at level 6.
      ALWAYS steal your money back from Withers.

    • @GiftsTrix
      @GiftsTrix 4 месяца назад

      This is just a different build entierly. Like, it doesn't even play the same.@@BosskV2

    • @BosskV2
      @BosskV2 4 месяца назад

      @@GiftsTrix ...its called the ultimate thief build. This is how you get the ultimate stealing and ranged assassin attacks.

  • @Chizeusa
    @Chizeusa 2 месяца назад

    is there an allternative for the branding? i didnt had the chance to brand T-T

    • @quentonrivera9150
      @quentonrivera9150 2 месяца назад +1

      Use the Harold crossbow from zhentarim hideout it inflicts bane on a successful hit. It’s the reward for returning the missing shipment quest

  • @jurybounackoff3025
    @jurybounackoff3025 3 месяца назад

    The only thing that stands - how to make a best character in BG3 which don`t have bard levels)

  • @CafeenMan
    @CafeenMan 4 месяца назад

    Goddamit!!!! I didn't swap out Thunderwave!
    I should just die. God f'in dammit!!!!

  • @tamsuskaralius835
    @tamsuskaralius835 4 месяца назад +4

    you do NOT need the absolute's brand for the gloves of power

    • @vilkkku1848
      @vilkkku1848 3 месяца назад +2

      for the bane effect u do

  • @venerablev4835
    @venerablev4835 4 месяца назад

    For some reason on the skills list Perception doesn't have a check box for me, anyone have an idea why it would be different for me?

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      At which part in the build? The bard or the thief?

    • @freman007
      @freman007 4 месяца назад

      Elves have proficiency in Perception, so you can't select it again.
      You can add expertise to it if your class allows that.

    • @JustinBlazeDraxx
      @JustinBlazeDraxx 4 месяца назад

      Thumbnail artwork?
      ​@@Firespark81

  • @kocibear1533
    @kocibear1533 4 месяца назад +1

    Where are you getting Shield proficiency, if your not a human or half-elf? If you still want to use a shield and cast spells, just switch 1 rogue level for a 1 level cleric dip

    • @InnocentiusLacrimosa
      @InnocentiusLacrimosa 4 месяца назад

      Bard gets shield if that is first class.
      EDIT: I stand corrected :-)

    • @kocibear1533
      @kocibear1533 4 месяца назад +1

      @@InnocentiusLacrimosa No they dont, only Humans and Half-elves bards get it. The class bard are not generally proficient in shields

    • @InnocentiusLacrimosa
      @InnocentiusLacrimosa 4 месяца назад

      @@kocibear1533 ah. My mistake. I was speccing Wyll and saw the proficiency and did not realize it was due to race as he looks like a thiefling. Thanks for the correction.

  • @somnorila9913
    @somnorila9913 4 месяца назад +1

    Don't think it works, or at least not all the time. Because if you are hidden and the enemy didn't see you in their turn the battle stops and they all heal to max health. Some times they do sit there idle until it's your turn again but other times they look for you.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      The ending combat thing only happens when they are temporarily hostile.

  • @rbm-oi2rx
    @rbm-oi2rx 4 месяца назад

    Get pass without a trace skill and get more higher stealth

  • @scottpegden4550
    @scottpegden4550 4 месяца назад

    Hmm bit of a flaw with this. I started as an elf for long bow proficiency but swords bard/rogue does not give shield proficiency so unable to use equipment suggested.

    • @Ptzou
      @Ptzou 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah go half wood elf

  • @blazypoo1723
    @blazypoo1723 4 месяца назад

    Does race selection matter at all?

    • @derrickjenkins4262
      @derrickjenkins4262 4 месяца назад

      Yes halfings have the lucky trait to where you reroll critical 1s so it’s OP for this build

    • @user-wv8yk3xu4h
      @user-wv8yk3xu4h 4 месяца назад

      Unless you get permanent advantage in something, then the gap is minimized.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      Like I stated in the video elf is your best option.

    • @freman007
      @freman007 4 месяца назад

      Duergar, unlimited racial invisibility at level 5.
      Halfling, lucky.
      Half-Elf, Drow or Wood. Light armor, shield, spear, halberd, glaive, and pike proficiencies. Either racial spells, or extra movement and stealth proficiency.
      You can hire Kree, Brinna or Varanna from Withers.
      Personally I hire Kree and Brinna. Prior to level 5 I use Brinna, because of the re-rolls for 1s (especially important in Honor Mode) and from level 5 I use Kree for the racial invisibility. Kree is easily my MVP.
      After level 5 Brinna becomes my camp transmutation wizard for casting daily buffs and refining potions and elixirs. Expertise in medicine from a rogue dip, and the re-roll 1s really helps get those doubles.

  • @ChristopherAnders-dd4hd
    @ChristopherAnders-dd4hd 3 месяца назад

    I want alot of gold period

  • @kitkami
    @kitkami 4 месяца назад +1

    Sadly i have long killed that priest who gives you the brand so cant do that on my rogue.

    • @braxis9703
      @braxis9703 4 месяца назад +1

      if you still have access to the goblin camp, the brand is in a brazier where Priestess Gut starts, so I think you can take it and use it yourself

    • @kitkami
      @kitkami 4 месяца назад

      @@braxis9703I have it in my items, i just never looked at it to see. Thank you.

    • @braxis9703
      @braxis9703 4 месяца назад

      @@kitkami I just went and found a save, and unfortunately I can't see a way to "use" it and it can't be dipped in the brazier :(

    • @freman007
      @freman007 4 месяца назад

      @@braxis9703
      Unfortunately Gut and the Warlock beside her are the only people who can brand you.
      I go through and brand all my party including Hirelings (except for Gale because I leave him in his portal until I can get to Elminster, which I can only do once the Goblin Camp is finished off),

  • @nothingtoseehere9648
    @nothingtoseehere9648 3 месяца назад +10

    The best rogue build isn't a rogue 🤣

  • @XxFlyingweenerdogxX
    @XxFlyingweenerdogxX 4 месяца назад +1

    Did you play the game with dialogue volume muted? How do you not know how to pronounce any of the names?

    • @lustinlis413
      @lustinlis413 4 месяца назад +3

      Most of those RUclipsrs dont even play the game, just create content.

    • @user-wv8yk3xu4h
      @user-wv8yk3xu4h 4 месяца назад +2

      How many times do you guys think there is a voiced line in bg3 about a weapon's or a merchant's name? I know who definitely has not played this game.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад +1

      Because I can't remember them and I don't care and it's funny to me when people get all mad about it and comment hahaha

    • @venerablev4835
      @venerablev4835 4 месяца назад

      @@Firespark81 I've heard you guys do it intentionally to provoke comments for the algorithm engagement bump.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      @venerablev4835 Sometimes I will do it on purpose but most of the time I just can't be bothered to care because the name and the thing are on the screen. You know what I'm talking about. I could call it a potato and it wouldn't matter. Know what I mean?

  • @UndoubtablySo
    @UndoubtablySo 4 месяца назад +1

    i wouldn't use this build in tactician it seems underpowered, if ur playing theif u can go bard theif or rogue theif but u don't need to multiclass ur just stopping these classes from reaching their full potential, bard takes helmet of arcane acuity act 2 and band of mystic scoundrel act 3 and becomes giga powerful and every level in bard just means more encant/illusion spells and slots.
    rogue class is less reliable overall but can be a great damage dealer assuming you can attack with advantage every turn, since you are attacking with advantage and rolling big dice with stealth attack then taking all the crit items is probably the best build (you need longbow proficiency), this video also forgot to mention wielding the knife of the undermountain king, its BIS until act 3
    the stealth mechanic is very unreliable due to many creatures having darkvision so depending on it to keep you safe from damage is a bad idea, this is why wearing the graceful cloth all game is not efficient and you should replace it with light armor as necessary, the bhaalist armor or elegant leather in act 3 are both very good
    for theiving, in honor mode remember to split the cash stacks and be careful who you pickpocket because some people will leave permanently if you get caught
    if you want to buy the cloak of brume from mattis you must convince Rolan to stay with the tieflings!

    • @user-wv8yk3xu4h
      @user-wv8yk3xu4h 4 месяца назад +1

      Perma-invisibility is underpowered??? On Tactician??? 4 attacks per round unhasted is underpowered? This is a classic build to solo Honour mode, not struggle on Tactician.

    • @UndoubtablySo
      @UndoubtablySo 4 месяца назад

      @@user-wv8yk3xu4h this isnt the perma invis build, usually requires a second character casting invis and u have to have cast without trace, but perma invis is kinda lame because it trivializes boss fights

    • @UndoubtablySo
      @UndoubtablySo 4 месяца назад

      @@user-wv8yk3xu4h also rogue sneak attacks do comparable dmg to bard flourish but on the upside you crit more and doesnt require insp points, the downside of rogue is bad aoe

    • @user-wv8yk3xu4h
      @user-wv8yk3xu4h 4 месяца назад

      ​@@UndoubtablySoAny build with Bard lvl 7 or more can be a permainvis build by picking GrInvis. You absolutely do not need PwT if you get the Elegant Studded Leather in act 3 or the Assassin's short sword before that, for stealth advantage. Not to mention this build can very easily be used as a CC Bard with Arcane Acuity Helm and Mystic Scoundrel Ring.

    • @foxxknight8847
      @foxxknight8847 4 месяца назад +1

      No taking tactical advice from someone who can't be bothered to type the two extra letters for "you".

  • @leebarnett2610
    @leebarnett2610 2 месяца назад +9

    This is a Bard build with a Thief dip -- not a thief build.

    • @MikeKilo1969
      @MikeKilo1969 2 месяца назад +4

      I hear what you’re saying, but there’s a difference between a rogue and a thief.

    • @eduardo9a1
      @eduardo9a1 2 месяца назад +1

      Im doing a thief build without even going rogue

  • @dionsherman3824
    @dionsherman3824 4 месяца назад +3

    Don't I repeat Don't kill that Ox he will give you that ring in act 3 if you find him and smuggle him into the lower city .

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      What good is it going to do you in act 3? The game is basically over by then lmao.

    • @dionsherman3824
      @dionsherman3824 4 месяца назад +3

      @@Firespark81 he will also help you fight the final boss

    • @inactive_hermit6587
      @inactive_hermit6587 4 месяца назад +3

      Didn't even know you could smuggle him in! Thanks, Dion! 😊

    • @freman007
      @freman007 4 месяца назад +4

      You can get the ring by attacking Ox with a Mage Hand while your party hides elsewhere.
      Once the Hand is dead, talk to the Ox with the Hand's controller. He'll open a trade screen and you can buy his ring from him.
      You kill him in Act 2 for the Hat of Fire Acuity, which is BiS for a crowd control build, notably on a Light Domain Cleric.

    • @Charcdaking
      @Charcdaking 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@dionsherman3824 bro what is a cow gonna do against a brain God 😭

  • @rodolfokatz5098
    @rodolfokatz5098 27 дней назад +5

    Nice bard build. But giving a dislike for the click bait title. You are insane to publish this as a thief build.

  • @darkstargaming4908
    @darkstargaming4908 4 месяца назад

    I think I missed something, when equipping the shield I lost everything due to no proficiency.

    • @ricbulow
      @ricbulow 4 месяца назад

      Did you choose a race that wasn't proficient with shields?

    • @darkstargaming4908
      @darkstargaming4908 4 месяца назад

      @@ricbulow probably, I chose elf like what was suggested. I have managed without it to act 3.

    • @ricbulow
      @ricbulow 4 месяца назад

      Yeah I skipped it as well, for that same problem.... It only a +1 after all. @@darkstargaming4908

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад +2

      Sorry this was an oversight on my part. Just skip the shield you'll be ok without it. Instead choose 2 weapon fighting style and equip 2 daggers. Build will still be op.

    • @Munchlax77
      @Munchlax77 4 месяца назад

      @@Firespark81 I think there may have been some mixup. College of Swords doesn't give you Shield proficiency but College of Valor does. Not turn if which college is more preferred Duelist from Swords or the Shield from Valor.

  • @zuzki_kun
    @zuzki_kun 27 дней назад

    it was never covered why you went 17 CHA.. is it because of the hair? or did i miss something..

    • @morgula6669
      @morgula6669 9 дней назад

      smugglers ring since you get -1 to cha so you can still get the +3 bonus.

  • @PrincePryce
    @PrincePryce 4 месяца назад +1

    is that AI talking? kinda annoying but great video and build. Subbed

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад +6

      No thats my voice just been my voice for 42 years lol

    • @mmickles1
      @mmickles1 4 месяца назад

      Lol

    • @PrincePryce
      @PrincePryce 4 месяца назад

      @@Firespark81 oh sorry :)

    • @Carnivore69
      @Carnivore69 4 месяца назад +2

      Not at all annoying (at least in the context of informational content), and very unique! If I were​ @Firespark81 I'd put a demo together and submit it to game studios, or anywhere looking for voice work w/ a ton of personality.

    • @foxxknight8847
      @foxxknight8847 4 месяца назад +1

      What on earth makes you think it's an AI? Sounds like a perfectly normal human voice to me... And not annoying at all.

  • @Anotherguy1st
    @Anotherguy1st 4 месяца назад +7

    This isn't a rogue

  • @SOULTAKER5524
    @SOULTAKER5524 4 месяца назад +3

    This is not the ultimate thief, from lvl 3 in act one just hire the halfling hireling and make her a rouge and max your slight of hand and stealth, and then find the smugglers ring, shapeshifters boon ring, the silver pendant, and if you have it the mask of the shapeshifter. then use shadowhearts enhance ability on the halfling, and with the pendant cast guidance on yourself, and shapeshift for the best thief to rob the emerald grove blind, almost never failing a roll slight of hand check… and when you hit lvl 4 in rouge just get ability improvement to get 18 base dex and itll just get faster once you get the graceful cloth. And if you picked thief and do get caught just send your party to camp before starting combat and just dashing away to safety

    • @SOULTAKER5524
      @SOULTAKER5524 4 месяца назад

      Thief’s work better supplying the party rather than taking a active roll in my opinion but this was just my opinion anyways

    • @SOULTAKER5524
      @SOULTAKER5524 4 месяца назад

      Shi almost forgot… grab the gloves of power too for 1 more point in slight of hand

  • @SuhxToBYou
    @SuhxToBYou Месяц назад +1

    Sleight of hand is broken. Many buffs don’t work on it and neither does advantage. Guidance, shapeshifter’s boon, cat’s grace, proficiency and expertise; all not working. Testing others now but all of those have never worked across my many playthroughs.

    • @MegaHAZE21
      @MegaHAZE21 Месяц назад

      Finding this to be true for me as well. Have a bunch of items that should buff sleight of hand up to +10 but it permanently stays at +6.

  • @xDaPrincex
    @xDaPrincex 4 месяца назад +2

    You lost me the second you said Bard. I don't want no Bard, nevermind

    • @hay_aye_ron
      @hay_aye_ron 4 месяца назад

      Swords bard is op. Bards are awesome, busting out the violin and getting down as my team mops is priceless

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      Bards are one of the strongest classes in the game m8.

    • @SDPhantomGamer
      @SDPhantomGamer 4 месяца назад

      The beauty of this game is there are multiple ways to get the same type of build. You can easily get the same items to work on a Thief Rogue 5/Archfey Warlock 7 for example without many compromises to utility. If you're fine with using the Darkness spell, you can even opt to skip picking up the fog cloak and perhaps take Rogue into Assassin for some really nice first strike bonuses.

    • @foxxknight8847
      @foxxknight8847 4 месяца назад

      Your loss, man. Bard is an amazing class in BG3.

  • @Jd-nq2vj
    @Jd-nq2vj 4 месяца назад

    How on earth are you not doing pal world content… I’m so disappointed

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад

      I'm workin on it bud ya gotta give me some time lol

    • @Jd-nq2vj
      @Jd-nq2vj 4 месяца назад

      @@Firespark81 I need my daily dose of video goodness hehe

  • @OneMoreDesu
    @OneMoreDesu 4 месяца назад +1

    Stolen builds with video thumbnails from other media and content that amounts to comment bait. 0/10 I'll click on your videos only to dislike them from now on.

    • @Firespark81
      @Firespark81  4 месяца назад +15

      Here is an idea, get a life. I spent 3 freaking days working on this build I didn't steal it from anyone. Not the thumb or the build. You gonna waste time clicking a video just to dislike it. Funny how I own you now. Also funny you don't understand how the dislike button works hahaha moron.

    • @Jennie-mw2cl
      @Jennie-mw2cl 4 месяца назад +3

      More than one person can arrive at the same conclusion. No one is "stealing builds".

    • @RaphX13
      @RaphX13 4 месяца назад

      Or how bout this don’t click on his content if your just going to hate on it keep scrolling if you bring nothing but negativity to content creators
      Have a nice day

  • @MagnaRads
    @MagnaRads 4 месяца назад

    You gonna teach me how to play enshrouded?