If some crazy dude managed to rush the stage, grab a guitar AND get it past a rioting crowd and all the way home, they fucking deserve it. Honestly, I'd be jealous.
A thief is a thief. What a generation coming up. Listen to yourselves... sad commentary of todays youth. Stop standing around with your hands out. Corporations are going to just give up and retire rich instead of giving you a job. I did. Closed my company and laid off 6 people supporting families. When the government and employee's start telling you how to run YOUR OWN company it's time to stop.
@@stevemazz3121 You're right, it's still stealing I totally agree with that because it's not that persons property. I certainly would never do that, or never cheer on someone who did so I will take back my earlier comment and say you're completely right no one should be stealing someone's property no matter what type of situation you're in.
I worked the barricade in front of the stage that night. Skid Row put on an awesome show to open. There were 2 girls in the front row. It was one of theirs 16th birthday. She was from Arkansas and got the tickets to the concert as an early present. She just loved Guns and Roses. She wasn't kidding as it looked like she bought every T Shirt and souvenir they were selling. She couldn't wait for the show to start. When Axel threw down the Mike and ran off the stage she asked what happened and I told her what I could see. There were several announcements that came over the PA system. With each announcement the crowd got more restless. Things started to fly towards the stage. The girls were trying to figure out what's going on and very scared. I told them it was about to get ugly and they needed to get as far away from the stage as possible. They started to pick up all their gear and started to leave. As they walked away the Birthday girl started crying and yelled "the dream is over". Just after they left more things were coming at the stage. The person next to me got hit in the head by a quarter. Then bigger things were flying towards us. When parts of chairs started to be thrown, they pulled us out of the barricade and let the cops take over. Working the barricade we are there to keep folks from going on stage and causing a ruckus. We didn't know we needed to keep performers on the stage. Live and learn.
My buddy plays in a Guns and Roses cover band. We have a gag where I go to the front row and record him and he says "take that! get that guy and take that!" During Rocket Queen.
@Zap Rowsdower My buddy who knows your buddy who has a cover band who Henry Waggoner's buddies band whos friends with your buddy who plays in my buddies cover band .......
My brother was there that night and I remember the next day my mom was wondering where in the world a stadium seat came from. I think that seat is still in my parents basement
I saw GNR during their infamous tour with Metallica in 1992 in Indianapolis. I am amazed that Axl didn’t start a riot that night. To begin with they were an hour late. Once they arrived Axl immediately started insulting people from Indiana “he is from Lafayette Indiana “ he said we were all corn fed Hicks among other things. All in all however they did put on a pretty good performance. I was 14 at the time and it was my first rock concert. I will remember it for as long as I live. I came out of the show as a much bigger Metallica fan than I was before
I was at that show in Mpls, 15 at the time.. Axl pulled a bitch move at our show as well, started running his stupid mouth...everyone sat down and stopped applauding which really pissed him off. No one would placate his ego. So they played all their garbage material....fans hated it. I LOVED that. FNM and Metallica were really good though. F Axl forever. F-ing douche
i saw it in orlando. it was on the verge of a riot because gnr was late. but some genious with a camera started filming hot chicks in the audience and putting them on the screens flashing their tits. crisis averted.😁
I was at that show, and she is right... but I already knew what kind of a "special' dickhead Axl was. We caught them in '88 at Buckeye Lake when they opened for Aerosmith, and he was bitcing at a guy standin in the front row next to me that was taking pictures of the band with a cheap 110 camera. We invited him to come out into the crowd to express his opinion, but for some reason he declined our offer. So sad.
Went to see GNR years ago in Massachusetts. (Axle was 3 hours late for the show) We were sitting side stage and halfway thru the show we could see axle fist fighting with one of the crew behind stage. What a piece of work.
I used too sleep out for tickets, in the 70' 80's 90's and scalp tickets out of the box office tickets were $8.00 those times were the best exspecially the 80's. Best time of my life, so many memories and alot of money
Arlo Roan they actually played their scheduled 90 minutes. Rocket Queen was one of the last scheduled songs to play. Technically everyone still got a full show so their was no reason to get so upset.
I want to thank the makers of this documentary for getting right to the point. I can't stand a long drawn out "intro" ,quick cuts, in your face bullshit clickbait. This was very well made... I just wish the moment was shown when he asked Axl to sign the book!
One of the security guards mentioned, Ronnie Gamble, former Houston Oiler, was my football coach, 5 years ago he died, while we were all waiting for him in the locker room. When did I hear he was involved in this?? RIGHT NOW!! Wow.
Just Googled his name and...WHAT?!I'm from White Bear Lake and have loved to hear his story from this and it sucks knowing how accessible he would have been to talk to. Maybe even interview him on the radio. Damn! That sucks, sorry for your loss BTW.
@@zachhalverson69 Thank you. 6 years ago today now. By the way I LIVE IN WHITE BEAR LAKE. Yes he coached at Forest Lake and he coached our oline fir a local Semi-pro team. I was retired, and he asked me to play another year to help with the younger guys. 3 games into the season at a game in Duluth, he never made it he locker room. Sad, sas day
Big Ron worked as a bouncer at a bigger club here in STL in the early 90s. Whenever my band would perform there, he was always a great friend to see and always had my back as security. We love you Big Ron! A real good guy with a real big heart.
@@stevenlord3808 Well it sounds like you knew the real Ronnie. I 1st met him playing AGAINST the team he was coaching. We destroyed them 52-6. After the game one of OUR guys started some shit with one of their players. Dont care that he was my teammate it was uncalled for. So after the handshakes being the tram veteran iI went up to him to apologize for my teammates actions. He told me "don't be to hard on him, he's young, he will learn". I knew right then I wanted to play my last few years for him. He knew alot about football, but more about how to treat people right. EVERYBODY loved him. Even his opponents. Losing Ronnie was devastating. I still remember the feeling in that locker room. We still had a game to play that day. Nobody wanted to, but we all knew he would have said play. We put an unfair beating on that team that day. There wasn't a dry eye in that locker room after. I still miss him.
I’ve met many famous musicians and Out of them all sebastian bach was by far the coolest who absolutely puts his fans above himself as in he treats everyone like lifelong friends. He had a way of getting the names of what seemed like everyone he talked to at the venue and would actually remember everyone’s name after the show while the bands were loading up. He was the only one in the band that interacted with fans the entire time they were there. Just a fantastic human being
Love him. He always comes across as a really down to earth, personable guy! Saw Skid Row in Edinburgh in 1989 I think it was...sadly didn't get to meet him!
@@danielthebearStAnton doo rag, and trucker hat! He has Corn rows now, why hide his thick hair! Lol! Balding crackhead in spandex and furry waiters jacket. Wow, cocaine is a helluva a drug
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 really??... it was literally SECONDS after he said " hey! Take that" and pointed out stump, there's NO POSSIBLE WAY they could have gotten it that quickly 😉
My mother was the court reporter for his trial. She left a note saying what big fans me and my two sisters were. Axl left us 2 cds, 2 t shirts and personal autographs. I think I still have it!
saw them open for maiden. they were drunk and horribly sloppy. people started throwing things at them, axl threw a fit and they walked off stage. then the flawless, almighty maiden took the stage.
They opened for Iron Maiden starting on May 13th of 1988 in Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada. They toured Canada through the end of May, their first US show opening for Iron Maiden was May 30th in Spokane, last show was June 6th in Sacramento.
I was at the very next show in Dallas. Had front center seats, but since GnR had rebuilt the stage, it no longer had room for my front row seats. So security gave us 3rd row center and backstage passes. One of the greatest shows ever. I still have my ticket stub.
i find it funny that axl used to get pissed at people for throwing stuff on stage because he didn’t want people hurt but he can throw himself off stage which hurt stump, slap a security guard, triggered a riot, have a lot of people hospitalized, and etc..
He didn't trigger the riot, the idiots who started demolishing stuff did. Sure he might have incited them to riot, because he just ended a show that just began (I think) and it might have made the crowd angry, but it's still their fucking decision to literally start destroying everything, Axxl didn't make them do it. And I don't think Axxl behaved properly either, but punching a guy who brings a camera to your gig against the rules (especially since there were multiple instances of that happening earlier and I can only imagine how aggravating that must be to watch someone make money of your gig) is one thing, but starting a massive destruction even which was the riot there is another thing.
Dave54600 i saw that video! Dif. Here is that Axl decided to be a prick! Baz was struck and had every right to hit that f*cker! But, Axl wasn't threatened or injured anywhere except his Big Fat EGO!!!😉
I was at the Montreal version of this. Metallica was the opening act, James got hurt from pyrotechnics, and was rushed to the hospital, minutes later the other band mates came back and apologized for stopping (that's professionalism). Guns could have saved the show by jumping on right away but instead made us wait 2 hours, and after only three songs, we watched Axel insult the city and leave. The riot that followed was crazy. Flames everywhere, the place was getting destroyed. In the hallways, store were being vandalized and looted. Outside, cop cars were being flipped over. Insane!!! How did this guy not get into more trouble is a mystery.
So you guys were acting like savage beasts and somehow this is Axl's fault? lol. I get people being mad, but nothing justifies the riots. A rational human being doesn't start wreaking havoc just because they are mad. This was the rioters fault.
@@John-sk8pr Axl was a dick and stealing peoples money. I'm not a big Metalica fan (since the black album anyway) but they went back to Montreal and did a makeup concert after almost dying from having his skin and muscle melted off and Axl was just a dick. Even the band knew it was wrong but there wasn't shit they could do without a lead singer.
Seth Braun wasted talent? Call him a cry baby and an asshole, but there was no wasted talent. He's still a fucking legend and he fucking rocked in the 80s and 90s. How was his talent wasted? GnR were at the top.
@@ElGaby323 makes no sense. He wasted nothing, made some GREAT music in his youth and even though his voice is shot, is still performing hard every year.
You could say that about alot of musicians Hendrix , Morrison , Joplin , Bonham , Duane Allman , Freddy Mercury , Bon Scott and many others ! To single him out is being blind to others ! If you dont like the music have the guts to say it dont hide behind BS
😅 Sebastian keeps making me laugh with his commentary! Lol He knew how Axl could be. Couldn't imagine being there to witness the craziness! Love Sebastian's laugh too 😆
I laughed so hard at that amp story. I am pretty sure those guys just sat there waiting for the nus and realizing they don't want to carry that amp another 10 feet. So they took the bus and left the amp there, I guess.
Sebastian Bach is so hilarious! When he was talking about Izzy's amp and laughing, I thought I'd die. It was really the only part that made the who incident seem ridiculous besides Axl and his stupid contact lens stories.
I took my first two tabs of acid at a Steve Winwood concert. Before it kicked in I got into a drunken fight with some other Bozo and we both got taken to jail. That’s when the acid started to kick in. Long story short, I love Steve Winwood
I was there that night. My favorite band of all time and I was beyond excited to see Axl Rose. I had bleacher seats to the right when facing the stage and mid riot a girl my age was standing two rows down from me and that’s when a plant the size of a large mum smacked her on the side of her head and face, knocking her over the next bleacher. While I stood watching this and the helicopters, my boyfriend, at the time, grabbed my arm and pulled me the hell out of there. We ran through water hoses, flying chairs, air debris, you name it. It was crazy!
my mom was there. she said people were getting a hold of the fire hoses and were trying to spray people, stealing/scrapping whatever they could, etc. Pretty awesome story
Tracey Hogan I'm glad I'm not a roses fan. Haven't forgiven them since axl decided his courtside seats were more important than coming to Philly to entertain those whom purchased the ticket to see them. Nothing against the rest of the band; at least they fucking showed up lol. That being said, guns n roses won't make another dime off me.
15:27 I saw GnR on the reunion tour in 2016 in Chicago and I ended up sitting next to this guy and his wife in the VIP lounge before the show. A super kind guy with awesome stories. This dude had the coolest story about the riot show, and he told my sister and me detail by detail, second by second of the show. *If you are reading this, I am the tall skinny dude who was with his sister, and we shared a table in the lounge for about 2 hours. Thanks for the great stories!*
The real story is just how good Skid Row was live. They were probably the best live rock band around at that time. Bach was instantly talented and out rocked everyone on earth.
He wasn't the most PC person at the time. Wearing that infamous AIDS tee, and dissing America's favorite boy band at the time with "New Kids On My Cock". One thing he did I thought was funny: He ripped the head off a Vanilla Ice doll!😂😂😂😂
Bach was and still is an attention seeking child pretending to be a man. Loud, animated, and annoying. A great performer but as far as musical talent goes, just another face in the crowd. Nothing to write home about then or now. Although I must admit the Slave to the Grind record was an awesome against the grain offering.
They made Axel paint curbs on the highway. The FM rock station announced that if "You stopped for an autograph that the one you will get will be from the Deputy & for obstruction of justice." It was hilarious!
Fuzzy's Studio I was 3 years old when that show happened but I would have fucking loved to live that generation. “Rock ‘n roll” just doesn’t feel like rock ‘n roll any more these days....
3Vimages catching a pick, that a guitar player would throw out into the crowd, was an exciting possibility to have occur when going to a show back in those days. Equivalent to catching a baseball at a game.
@@deathbat87 I turned 18 in 1981. Saw em all in their prime. VH, AC/DC(Next to any Pink Floyd/Roger Waters show the Back In Black tour was the greatest thing I have ever seen), Dio, Maiden, Triumph, Aerosmith, Sabbath, BOC, Stones, Floyd, Metallica, Megadeath, Priest.. you name it. Was in 2 riots, one in New Hampshire in 76' at a ZZ Top show and one in 82' at Rush in Hollywood Fla. Both were caused by the venue not opening doors on time. At the Rush show they had let people in and then closed the doors again when they found out the band was gonna be late. So about 7000 people were seeing other people already inside and they couldn't get in, so they started smashing in the doors, we got tear gassed at that one. I considered myself lucky as there were shows where people died, AC/DC and The Who come to mind, not from riots but from uncontrollable crowds rushing to their seats. These days I'm a roadie, and quite a bit has been learned since then, by the bands, the venues and the fans, and you don't see much more than a few fights at shows these days. One thing though, we never had to worry about some crazy fuck showing up and opening fire on the crowd. You younger folks have a whole other set of shit to deal with and I don't admire that. But hang in there, Rock and Roll will come around again. Bands like Ghost and Greta Van Fleet are bringing in huge crowds, and the resurgence is starting..
Their earlier days were their Golden Age. I remember when Appetite For Destruction was first released. Luckily we had an early copy, and we played it everywhere we went. Every performer in the band had recognised individual presence on the stage, and still maintain that presence. So its no wonder that G&R has had so many problems in its history. Anyways, they earned their fame, and deserve the recognition, and yeah the criticism too. Awesome job guys! :D
What a great Video I have so much Respect for the crew of people who work behind the scenes to bring the Concerts to the Fans in a Safe Environment.. You guys are the True Rockstars 👍😎
Stopped being a fan of G’n’R when they walked off stage during the Metallica show where James Hatfield was burned by pyro. The stories afterward about how snobby Axl acted and was drinking champagne and basically saying screw the fans and they lost me. They had some great music but I turn the channel everytime they are played on the radio. Fans made them and so many other bands truly love their fans. Axl is the exception and it’s a shame. Great documentary for sure! Wish they would have played some retro Skid Row! Thanks for sharing this!
Alter Egos you “heard” these stories but how can you know they’re true? I know Jason said he was drinking/smoking but I doubt he was saying screw the fans etc. Btw it was the whole bands decision to leave, they were having trouble with their equipment and couldn’t hear themselves
@psychotic memories, Me too! A cop broke the news in the parking lot. The thing is, I could've seen em Thursday night(my friends dad had connections for any night Thur-Sat.. But I wanted to see them on a weekend night so chose Friday. Then he wouldn't show up that night because of some misdemeanors in IL or MO, I don't remember exactly. He was trying to avoid being arrested.
Well if success is not an option, you should fail spectacularly and enjoy it? I dunno, I get disappointed with myself sometimes too, but at least we're not seeking permanent solutions to temporary problems, amirite?
I had the biggest crush on him as a kid...then I grew up n' realised what a whiny little bitch he could be. He DEFINITELY ain't no Layne Staley. Pity the legend passed while this fucker still struts around (NOT wishing death on Axl though..just for Layne to be alive👌🏻). Being a guitar player, I preferred Slash than Axl anyway
5150mario funny how this doesn’t matter a bit now with everyone carrying a cell phone with a camera in it. Ok, he broke the rules smuggling in his camera. But jumping into the crowd, ending a show, starting a riot is not how you handle it. Lots of people could of been killed. I hope AR got a huge bill from his management for damages, lawsuits, shows cancelled.
Wow. What a band. They said that on any given night Guns could be the tightest, best rock band on the planet or a complete train wreck. Axl was completely predictablely unpredictable. The most generous sweet guy you ever want to meet one night and the biggest petulant egomaniac the next. I missed seeing them once in LA and after they cancelled in Vancouver due to Hetfield burning himself. What a drag.
Amazing job on this documentary ! All this time I 've only know of the footage of Axl jumping off stage , nothing more about the riot and other footage around this incident. Awesome
They call the outshoot of the stage into the crowd an "ego thruster"!!!! I've played music forever and i've never heard it called that. Absolutely hilarious.
Axl wasn't a drug user. Only alcohol. That's why gn'r broke up. Look at Steven today, poor guy can't talk normally, Slash was even reported dead bc of the drugs. They were drowning in drugs and Axl was against that.
Kyle Mc he was the best rocker of all time even with the ego and attitude which I think was more drinking and doing drugs that caused his out bursts also alot of pressure to be that famous wouldn't be easy
Kyle Mc I say he was he had a unique voice plus awesome band members great range of songs even with the attitude I like him,people forget these guys are drinking taking drugs all the time there's gonna be some trouble
@@paulmader1052 with out a doubt best of all time !!!! there have been many many rock stars who have displayed similar behavior as AXL ROSE with similar attitude hello thats what big stars do sometime goes with territory .
@@mikepate9371 yeah forsure it actually sells records and gets them girls so yeah plus Axl rose wasn't that bad it's alot of pressure when everyone wants a piece of you, his music was so awesome though
Axl's a puss which is why he threw a hissy and left. He already took the camera. I saw Lynyrd Skynyrd (band and crew) jump in the crowd and throw punches at fans in the second row near Chicago. Lynyrd Skynyrd was back on stage within 10 minutes and finished what turned out to be a great concert. Since Axl's a pussy, he decided to pick up his toys and left like he did in Montreal and Rio. .
It's so stupid that some people defend this as being ""rock and roll". Rock and roll is playing your show and having people enjoy themselves and go home safely.
David to be fair he did have a lot of things going on in his life from his childhood not to mention the stress of having the whole world watching you and having to constantly live up to high expectations of music I would get pretty stressed and lash out a lot if I where in his shoes
Still and always will be the proud crybaby doosh azzhole. Talentless thug who can't fight when dressed like a chic or a dood. Panties and a Boa to rock out on stage? Yeah, OK. If that doesn't scream 'I'm trapped in the closet?' you idiots are deaf from her sissy screams and blind from denial. HA HA!
I was driving past there after getting fireworks in St Charles County just after the riot started. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many red and blue lights since.
That would have been the best concert ever tho! When Axl wanted to tour with Nirvana!!! Good luck with that! But man woulda been phenominal. Kurt hated Axls guts
Devin's right...Axl wanted Nirvana to open for them. Kurt turned him down. In true Axl form, he had a tantrum over it. Axl wore his Nirvana hat all the time until their fued. It's even by his side in the Don't Cry filmclip
@@nelliesilvers1210 I just read all about that the other day. All this time I thot it was Axl being a dick! Turns out it was Kurt being a dick! Axl wanted to jam with him. Weird how judgmental he was....all the while supporting wat he deemed the underdog. And being the person he hated. Dude was fucked up
@@shirleyallen5178 I never take sides of a fight unless it includes someone I personally love and I know the facts. I love Kurt but not personally (dangit😏) and I don't know the facts. One minute I'm reading Axl instigated it and the next, Kurt did. I'll never know but they both had arrogance in them. Axl was a prick towards many people and made a shit ton of enemies so, even if Kurt's the instigator, I still tend to lean in his favour. Plus the fact that Courtney was the driver in that relationship and everyone knows what a manipulative, instigating POS she is. Either way, Axl was guilty asf when Kurt died and felt bad over their dramas..he didn't know what was going to happen though so had nothing to blame himself for. To me, his remorse shows empathy.. something I thought Axl lacked before the event of Kurt's death. He's gotten humble as he's aged and wisened up as far as I can tell which is obv great
It’s too bad that Kelsey Grammer had to get his dad to pick him up after the show and that his Dad didn’t believe him when he told him there was a riot.
I was at the show in Dallas Starplex Ampetheater just after this. 7th row. Skid row kicked ass, then there was a 2 hour wait. Axel was mad there was a curfew, so he said FU we aren't even going on until the curfew starts! for 2hrs the crowd was mostly calm, but they they started throwing beer cups. not those flimsy solo cups, the hard plastic ones. from 7th row if you looked up at the hill behind us it looked like snow. then it got bad and it looked like a Blizzard! our dates were getting scared and we started to leave, just as we got out of our row. the lights went off and i got NAILED in the side of the head with a stack of beer cups, almost knocked me out. then lights come up and GNR comes out. but they sounded bad. I mean real bad. we stayed 3 songs and left.
how could a whimpy 130 pound guy like axl knock anyone over, even if he jumped at them? Dude needed his butt thumped hard...his attitude killed that band.
C K , The show was amazing. It really was. He made vague references to the riot in the 90's through witty remarks such as "It seems like just yesterday we were here.." and when introducing Slash he called him his "partner in crime, returning to the scene of the crime" lol. He was very gracious tho and mentioned several times how glad he was to be back in St.Louis and thanked everyone for coming a few times. His tribute performance of Black Hole Sun was cool too.
I'm curious @Jennifer Durso , how was it? I went to the show in Vancouver last week and Axl was in a great mood, despite this city being not happy with them. He cancelled back in 2002 the day of the show. That caused a riot...but we're famous for those now. But did he mention anything about St Louis?
Yeah, we got Black Hole Sun as well. I've been wanting to see them since I was 10. At 3.5 hours - it was a spectacular show. Glad you had a good time & that Axl was in a good mood :)
@Tripper Harrison You have no idea what you're talking about. Alice In Chains and Soundgarden - just to mention two 'grunge' bands - shit all over Guns'N'Roses musically. They were both better live too...
@Tripper Harrison - Serious question, but did you get dropped on your head as a child? Grunge bands such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Soundgarden, COMPLETELY blew bands like GnR's out of the water with talent, creativity and the level of energy that was brought to these type of concerts. Considering Nirvana, and Kurt Cobain specifically came up with Grunge rock as an entirely new music genre, that alone puts Nirvana at a much higher recognition of respect than bands like GnR's. Not to mention, even with Kurt being gone for almost 25 years, he still makes more money than that brain dead Axl Rose, lord of the flys. I mean, it take a serious moron of EPIC proportions to screw up a band that big just because of selfishness and ego! It's sad that people like you actually believe that bands such as Nirvana didn't bring something purely new and exciting to the music genre. They quite literally changed the way music is viewed in the world. You can thank Nirvana for bringing along not only all incredible Grunge bands, but also incredible post-grunge style hard rock bands such as Disturbed, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, Foo Fighters, Stone Temple Pilots, System of a Down, Mudvayne, Stone Sour and Slipknot *JUST* to name a few! Try to really give this style of music a little more credit.
and now all those grunge bands are lucky to play a 15k seat arena. Guns N Roses is selling out stadiums and is headed to put together the highest grossing tour in history.
I like that G'n R always credited The Replacements as an early influence, especially simply being themselves, keeping it real, not faking anything, no phony smiles or painted on costumes. And oddly, not caring about money or fame. If they felt the vibe, the show was gonna be awesome. If not, Rose would likely throw a fit, cuss someone out or throw a punch and the show would be over. Small wonder one of the surviving Replacements played on Axl's second generation of G'n R. I guess that's why they had grudging respect for Nirvana, too. Authenticity, man - this is a serious revolution.
I was a freshman in high school when this happened (wasn’t at the show) and we laughed about it for quite a while afterwards. I was a loyal KSHE listener at the time and remember them having an event at the Arch where anybody that wanted to could show their appreciation for G&R by flipping the bird in a group photo (I wasn’t there either). Rolling Stone Magazine took notice and basically said the people of St. Louis had nothing better to do with their time than act like idiots. LOL!
Good lord what was the point of this documentary??? it just makes everyone divisive to blame one guy for that riot is silly! Axl isn't very professional people payed there money to see him and his band and he has a baby fit.... Axl isn't innocent in it he lit the match..... it's a miracle nobody was killed!
Saw Skid Row in the 80’s in a small club in NJ… they were a great live band. Saw GNR at MetLife Stadium early 90’s with Aerosmith… one of the best shows ever.
Axl only wishes he could pee without help now, much less be as good as he was then. This just goes to show, Axl took for granted how amazing his voice really was, it was simply taken away from him and never given back. Look at Axl now, the best he could get now would be as a street performer.
He is more talented and has more money than you'll ever even imagine LOL I think he's doing just fine and wouldn't give a fuck about what you'd have to say. He's a legend!!!!
@@Nyfancam01 I agree, he WAS a legend, now he's just a sad old dude that can barely walk. He even said it himself: "The day I threw in the towel thinking I knew it all, was the day I unknowingly lost it all, from my health to my voice to my plastic surgeries, to all my money, everything was a mistake, if only I would have listened to Ripped Hole, I would still have it all today" - Quote - Axl Rose
At the last minute on May 24th 1991, I had someone I knew call me up and ask if I wanted his 2 tickets, 8 rows from center stage at Alpine Valley to see GNR and I took him up on his offer. Paid most of my paycheck that friday to him and me and my buddy raced up to East Troy Wisconsin in a beat up, 4 cylinder 1979 mustang and the damn thing barely made it. I remember how huge the crowds were and major news outlets including MTV news was there interviewing people. Skid Row was on time and played their butts off, but GNR was late getting to the stage and Axl Rose had a cast on his leg. The show was good, but they played songs off Use your illusion 1@2 which weren't out yet, so we didn't know any of those songs. I thought about going to the Chicago show later on, but Axl made sure that didn't happen. Lol!
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If some crazy dude managed to rush the stage, grab a guitar AND get it past a rioting crowd and all the way home, they fucking deserve it. Honestly, I'd be jealous.
I hope he or she kept the guitar
I thought the exact same thing I would’ve definitely grabbed the guitar but who knows how far I’d get 🤔
Well said. haha
A thief is a thief. What a generation coming up. Listen to yourselves... sad commentary of todays youth.
Stop standing around with your hands out. Corporations are going to just give up and retire rich instead of giving you a job. I did. Closed my company and laid off 6 people supporting families. When the government and employee's start telling you how to run YOUR OWN company it's time to stop.
@@stevemazz3121 You're right, it's still stealing I totally agree with that because it's not that persons property. I certainly would never do that, or never cheer on someone who did so I will take back my earlier comment and say you're completely right no one should be stealing someone's property no matter what type of situation you're in.
I worked the barricade in front of the stage that night. Skid Row put on an awesome show to open. There were 2 girls in the front row. It was one of theirs 16th birthday. She was from Arkansas and got the tickets to the concert as an early present. She just loved Guns and Roses. She wasn't kidding as it looked like she bought every T Shirt and souvenir they were selling. She couldn't wait for the show to start. When Axel threw down the Mike and ran off the stage she asked what happened and I told her what I could see. There were several announcements that came over the PA system. With each announcement the crowd got more restless. Things started to fly towards the stage. The girls were trying to figure out what's going on and very scared. I told them it was about to get ugly and they needed to get as far away from the stage as possible. They started to pick up all their gear and started to leave. As they walked away the Birthday girl started crying and yelled "the dream is over". Just after they left more things were coming at the stage. The person next to me got hit in the head by a quarter. Then bigger things were flying towards us. When parts of chairs started to be thrown, they pulled us out of the barricade and let the cops take over. Working the barricade we are there to keep folks from going on stage and causing a ruckus. We didn't know we needed to keep performers on the stage. Live and learn.
You know what? Hell yeah to all the hardworking people who prevented a single life from being lost. End of story.
The real story here!
Pity they couldn't have done it at Donnington. Two lives lost, two dead fans, because Axl is a narcissistic snot.
True that!
@@beenaplumber8379 agreed
Yep
My buddy plays in a Guns and Roses cover band. We have a gag where I go to the front row and record him and he says "take that! get that guy and take that!" During Rocket Queen.
I love it
WOW!
My buddy is in the same cover band and says your buddy isnt in that cover band !!
@@mikethaxton4935 yes, but did you see the part where he??
@Zap Rowsdower My buddy who knows your buddy who has a cover band who Henry Waggoner's buddies band whos friends with your buddy who plays in my buddies cover band .......
My brother was there that night and I remember the next day my mom was wondering where in the world a stadium seat came from. I think that seat is still in my parents basement
Wacky Jacky FBI is on their way bro
I imagine that'll probably end up in the Rock and roll Hall of Fame one day or maybe in a local museum there in St Louis!
If you still have it I'll buy it from you.
Gunna end up on pawn stars😂
I will buy it!!
I saw GNR during their infamous tour with Metallica in 1992 in Indianapolis. I am amazed that Axl didn’t start a riot that night. To begin with they were an hour late. Once they arrived Axl immediately started insulting people from Indiana “he is from Lafayette Indiana “ he said we were all corn fed Hicks among other things. All in all however they did put on a pretty good performance. I was 14 at the time and it was my first rock concert. I will remember it for as long as I live. I came out of the show as a much bigger Metallica fan than I was before
I was at that show in Mpls, 15 at the time.. Axl pulled a bitch move at our show as well, started running his stupid mouth...everyone sat down and stopped applauding which really pissed him off. No one would placate his ego. So they played all their garbage material....fans hated it. I LOVED that. FNM and Metallica were really good though. F Axl forever. F-ing douche
My first concert was Metallica, Kid Rock, and Sevendust. 1999. Cleveland, Ohio
I was 14 when I saw GNR march 20th 1993 and lost my virginity in the bathroom of carver Hawkeye arena. I left an even bigger GNR fan
i saw it in orlando. it was on the verge of a riot because gnr was late. but some genious with a camera started filming hot chicks in the audience and putting them on the screens flashing their tits. crisis averted.😁
I was at that show, and she is right... but I already knew what kind of a "special' dickhead Axl was. We caught them in '88 at Buckeye Lake when they opened for Aerosmith, and he was bitcing at a guy standin in the front row next to me that was taking pictures of the band with a cheap 110 camera. We invited him to come out into the crowd to express his opinion, but for some reason he declined our offer. So sad.
Went to see GNR years ago in Massachusetts. (Axle was 3 hours late for the show) We were sitting side stage and halfway thru the show we could see axle fist fighting with one of the crew behind stage. What a piece of work.
Cold-Imp-366 it’s axl
Why couldn't Axl have ODed instead of Scott Weiland? Weiland was also an asshole, but he could SING.
@@joshdamsma Spell check. Good to see the grammar police are on the case!
@@jasoncarswell7458 why couldn't you have instead
Very sad
I own a talent management company and I book tours. Being a tour manager for GnR would have been an absolute nightmare.
I bet 2020 itself was a nightmare lol.
Nice profile pic, Lindsay.
Who can I book?
That would fucking suck LOL
But I'm sure you would of booked them anyway.
I wish $4 parking still existed
I used too sleep out for tickets, in the 70' 80's 90's and scalp tickets out of the box office tickets were $8.00 those times were the best exspecially the 80's. Best time of my life, so many memories and alot of money
I remember when shirts didn't cost the same as a tank of gas!!
That's bc the government keeps printing money
I wish everything was 4 $
@@derrick7384
I like the way you think
A buddy was at this show. They forgot to mention GnR had the crowd waiting 2 hours before they took the stage and they didn't play long.
Arlo Roan 2 fucking hours....
Yeah, that pissed me off the most, being 2hours late....thank God for Skid Row, they saved it
It's a curfew and they cannot get there on time.
Arlo Roan they actually played their scheduled 90 minutes. Rocket Queen was one of the last scheduled songs to play. Technically everyone still got a full show so their was no reason to get so upset.
I have been to see GnR many times. He always makes the crowd wait for hours. I wont go again, too old to wait for that pre madonna.
I want to thank the makers of this documentary for getting right to the point. I can't stand a long drawn out "intro" ,quick cuts, in your face bullshit clickbait. This was very well made... I just wish the moment was shown when he asked Axl to sign the book!
You must be being sarcastic because that intro was longer than the Star Wars crawl.
@@guyfaux900 Troll fed. Good boy.
@@strange5253 that's right 25 years of Industry trolling a******
@@strange5253 and that's so damned original I have to say😄
"Now to understand what happened, we must know the history of the band. Long back in Indiana in a small town call Lafayette...."
One of the security guards mentioned, Ronnie Gamble, former Houston Oiler, was my football coach, 5 years ago he died, while we were all waiting for him in the locker room. When did I hear he was involved in this?? RIGHT NOW!! Wow.
Small world as they say
Just Googled his name and...WHAT?!I'm from White Bear Lake and have loved to hear his story from this and it sucks knowing how accessible he would have been to talk to. Maybe even interview him on the radio. Damn! That sucks, sorry for your loss BTW.
@@zachhalverson69 Thank you. 6 years ago today now. By the way I LIVE IN WHITE BEAR LAKE. Yes he coached at Forest Lake and he coached our oline fir a local Semi-pro team. I was retired, and he asked me to play another year to help with the younger guys. 3 games into the season at a game in Duluth, he never made it he locker room. Sad, sas day
Big Ron worked as a bouncer at a bigger club here in STL in the early 90s. Whenever my band would perform there, he was always a great friend to see and always had my back as security.
We love you Big Ron!
A real good guy with a real big heart.
@@stevenlord3808 Well it sounds like you knew the real Ronnie. I 1st met him playing AGAINST the team he was coaching. We destroyed them 52-6. After the game one of OUR guys started some shit with one of their players. Dont care that he was my teammate it was uncalled for. So after the handshakes being the tram veteran iI went up to him to apologize for my teammates actions. He told me "don't be to hard on him, he's young, he will learn". I knew right then I wanted to play my last few years for him. He knew alot about football, but more about how to treat people right. EVERYBODY loved him. Even his opponents. Losing Ronnie was devastating. I still remember the feeling in that locker room. We still had a game to play that day. Nobody wanted to, but we all knew he would have said play. We put an unfair beating on that team that day. There wasn't a dry eye in that locker room after. I still miss him.
Now Axl looks like that security guy
Axl looks like an old overweight trailer park skank.
I think he looks a lot more like that mean lady from The Goonies 😂
He looks like shit.
@@rickallen6378 who doesnt look like shit that was born in the 60s?
@@joshuatraffanstedt2695 metallica
The Rock Attitude of that era has never been encapsulated more than in the fact that Stump went for an autograph immediately after the lawsuit ended.
I’ve met many famous musicians and Out of them all sebastian bach was by far the coolest who absolutely puts his fans above himself as in he treats everyone like lifelong friends. He had a way of getting the names of what seemed like everyone he talked to at the venue and would actually remember everyone’s name after the show while the bands were loading up. He was the only one in the band that interacted with fans the entire time they were there. Just a fantastic human being
J Cooper7 good Canadian boy
Love him. He always comes across as a really down to earth, personable guy! Saw Skid Row in Edinburgh in 1989 I think it was...sadly didn't get to meet him!
and hes in trailer park boys
Home grown Jersey boy!
Just another member of the awesome Bach-family :)))
It's hard to pout convincingly when you're wearing spandex shorts.
AND that silly furry thing! Lol
Lol
And white.😆
Turquoise spandex shorts
@@danielthebearStAnton doo rag, and trucker hat! He has Corn rows now, why hide his thick hair! Lol! Balding crackhead in spandex and furry waiters jacket. Wow, cocaine is a helluva a drug
Feel bad for the security guys having to deal with that.
Mike Davitt what? They’re the ones who didn’t do their job when Axl told them to take the camera
Seriously. I can’t imagine dealing with a little bitch primadonna like Axl AND a riot.
lol
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 fuck axl
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 really??... it was literally SECONDS after he said " hey! Take that" and pointed out stump, there's NO POSSIBLE WAY they could have gotten it that quickly 😉
My mother was the court reporter for his trial. She left a note saying what big fans me and my two sisters were. Axl left us 2 cds, 2 t shirts and personal autographs. I think I still have it!
Thats cool
Rock & roll history
Awesomeness!
I’m glad you mentioned this. A lot of people don’t know what a class act Axl is off stage. They only get shown his bad side
Typical Axl gives three kids two shirts to fight over
saw them open for maiden. they were drunk and horribly sloppy. people started throwing things at them, axl threw a fit and they walked off stage. then the flawless, almighty maiden took the stage.
They opened for Iron Maiden starting on May 13th of 1988 in Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada. They toured Canada through the end of May, their first US show opening for Iron Maiden was May 30th in Spokane, last show was June 6th in Sacramento.
I saw them open for Maiden in Toronto at the CNE Grandstand in May '88.
Iron maiden would have obliterated them! Wish I could have been there, would like to find that show on here.
AGS 15
I saw them with maiden and zodiac mindwarped. Shity show until maiden took the stage
In T.O
I was at the very next show in Dallas. Had front center seats, but since GnR had rebuilt the stage, it no longer had room for my front row seats. So security gave us 3rd row center and backstage passes. One of the greatest shows ever.
I still have my ticket stub.
Any cool stories backstage?
Wow! 🤔
i find it funny that axl used to get pissed at people for throwing stuff on stage because he didn’t want people hurt but he can throw himself off stage which hurt stump, slap a security guard, triggered a riot, have a lot of people hospitalized, and etc..
He didn't trigger the riot, the idiots who started demolishing stuff did. Sure he might have incited them to riot, because he just ended a show that just began (I think) and it might have made the crowd angry, but it's still their fucking decision to literally start destroying everything, Axxl didn't make them do it. And I don't think Axxl behaved properly either, but punching a guy who brings a camera to your gig against the rules (especially since there were multiple instances of that happening earlier and I can only imagine how aggravating that must be to watch someone make money of your gig) is one thing, but starting a massive destruction even which was the riot there is another thing.
I love how S. Bach tells the story. At least he had a great time.
I know. I've seen him in other interviews, and he's always got something interesting to say. A righteously cool dude.
sebastian went in feet first . punches second. so when sebastian says something was crazy..........believe him, he's done it.
Dave54600 i saw that video! Dif. Here is that Axl decided to be a prick! Baz was struck and had every right to hit that f*cker! But, Axl wasn't threatened or injured anywhere except his Big Fat EGO!!!😉
Dave54600
I've seen that footage on an old vhs called, 'Oh, say can you scream' with home footage type stuff. Really funny video.
I was at the Montreal version of this. Metallica was the opening act, James got hurt from pyrotechnics, and was rushed to the hospital, minutes later the other band mates came back and apologized for stopping (that's professionalism). Guns could have saved the show by jumping on right away but instead made us wait 2 hours, and after only three songs, we watched Axel insult the city and leave. The riot that followed was crazy. Flames everywhere, the place was getting destroyed. In the hallways, store were being vandalized and looted. Outside, cop cars were being flipped over. Insane!!! How did this guy not get into more trouble is a mystery.
Metallica were smart to go first
So you guys were acting like savage beasts and somehow this is Axl's fault? lol. I get people being mad, but nothing justifies the riots. A rational human being doesn't start wreaking havoc just because they are mad. This was the rioters fault.
@@John-sk8pr Oh look a fanboy who thinks his idol does nothing wrong. Of course the people were pissed. GnR was already 2 hours late at this point.
John Gonzalez a person is smart..... people are dumb
@@John-sk8pr Axl was a dick and stealing peoples money. I'm not a big Metalica fan (since the black album anyway) but they went back to Montreal and did a makeup concert after almost dying from having his skin and muscle melted off and Axl was just a dick. Even the band knew it was wrong but there wasn't shit they could do without a lead singer.
Good thing axl
wasn't as big then as he is now. He would've flattened that guy along with the whole front row. Many deaths.
LMAO
Matt Constantine.... omg... lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Everytime i read that i cant stop laughing !!!
Unlikely. The moment he broke a finger nail, he would have started crying.
People are being such assholes. But lolol. That was funny. Love Guns N’ Roses. One of my all time favorites.
Axle Rose is the definition of waisted talent. That guy was blessed with so much, and pissed it all away
Seth Braun wasted talent? Call him a cry baby and an asshole, but there was no wasted talent. He's still a fucking legend and he fucking rocked in the 80s and 90s. How was his talent wasted? GnR were at the top.
@@ElGaby323 makes no sense. He wasted nothing, made some GREAT music in his youth and even though his voice is shot, is still performing hard every year.
Made some great music in his youth, but that was 30 years ago.
You could say that about alot of musicians Hendrix , Morrison , Joplin , Bonham , Duane Allman , Freddy Mercury , Bon Scott and many others ! To single him out is being blind to others ! If you dont like the music have the guts to say it dont hide behind BS
@Boston pat 90’s music was pretty good. Don’t disrespect it like that.
Nothing funnier than hearing Sebastian tell this story...love that guy!!
😅 Sebastian keeps making me laugh with his commentary! Lol
He knew how Axl could be. Couldn't imagine being there to witness the craziness! Love Sebastian's laugh too 😆
Izzy's amps at the bus stop and his telling of it cracked me up😆👌🏻
his laugh is amazing.
I laughed so hard at that amp story. I am pretty sure those guys just sat there waiting for the nus and realizing they don't want to carry that amp another 10 feet. So they took the bus and left the amp there, I guess.
Trailer park royalty
Sebastian Bach is so hilarious! When he was talking about Izzy's amp and laughing, I thought I'd die. It was really the only part that made the who incident seem ridiculous besides Axl and his stupid contact lens stories.
The Who incident in Cincinnati dwarfed the hell out of this.
“We’re gonna get a few more guys obviously this is not steve Winwood”that quote is an understatement.
Gotta admit, a Steve Winwood riot would've been hilarious.
@@abbycross90210 Winwood was a real animal maaaan. He never really left "the high life", if you know what Im sayin.
So many trashed hotel rooms.
I took my first two tabs of acid at a Steve Winwood concert. Before it kicked in I got into a drunken fight with some other Bozo and we both got taken to jail. That’s when the acid started to kick in. Long story short, I love Steve Winwood
I was there that night. My favorite band of all time and I was beyond excited to see Axl Rose. I had bleacher seats to the right when facing the stage and mid riot a girl my age was standing two rows down from me and that’s when a plant the size of a large mum smacked her on the side of her head and face, knocking her over the next bleacher. While I stood watching this and the helicopters, my boyfriend, at the time, grabbed my arm and pulled me the hell out of there. We ran through water hoses, flying chairs, air debris, you name it. It was crazy!
Tracey Hogan jeepers, you're cool.
my mom was there. she said people were getting a hold of the fire hoses and were trying to spray people, stealing/scrapping whatever they could, etc. Pretty awesome story
size of a large mum. Classic! cheers for sharing ya tale.
that's why I don't take girls to shoes
Tracey Hogan I'm glad I'm not a roses fan. Haven't forgiven them since axl decided his courtside seats were more important than coming to Philly to entertain those whom purchased the ticket to see them. Nothing against the rest of the band; at least they fucking showed up lol. That being said, guns n roses won't make another dime off me.
15:27 I saw GnR on the reunion tour in 2016 in Chicago and I ended up sitting next to this guy and his wife in the VIP lounge before the show. A super kind guy with awesome stories. This dude had the coolest story about the riot show, and he told my sister and me detail by detail, second by second of the show. *If you are reading this, I am the tall skinny dude who was with his sister, and we shared a table in the lounge for about 2 hours. Thanks for the great stories!*
Hey, man! It's great to hear from you. Of course I remember you and your sister. We had an awesome chat. You're welcome! 🕶🎸🍺
I bet Axl's public liability insurance is expensive
Doesn't need iy
Lol
kudos for being the only one to spell Axl right in the comments
Read Slash's biography and GNR had to pay late union dues because Axl was always late for concerts
Lost a lot of money
Regardless of everything that happened back then, I would happily chose that Era over now 20/21!....
I strongly agree
I turned 20 in 1990. So glad that is the decade that I spent my 20s.
The real story is just how good Skid Row was live. They were probably the best live rock band around at that time. Bach was instantly talented and out rocked everyone on earth.
He wasn't the most PC person at the time. Wearing that infamous AIDS tee, and dissing America's favorite boy band at the time with "New Kids On My Cock". One thing he did I thought was funny: He ripped the head off a Vanilla Ice doll!😂😂😂😂
Bach was and still is an attention seeking child pretending to be a man. Loud, animated, and annoying. A great performer but as far as musical talent goes, just another face in the crowd. Nothing to write home about then or now. Although I must admit the Slave to the Grind record was an awesome against the grain offering.
@@imvandenh You're just a jealous little bitch. Hahahahahaha.
dennis simpson wow buddy.... you sure told him... 😂😂😂😂
Instantly or insanely?
How do you hide a huge 1991 style camera in your pants? That's like hiding a PS4 in your pants.
Ha! Ha! That's funny!
Dude was a biker and knew security. You can do what you want at that point.
Duston McCreary they had small cameras back then
We had our ways! We had to make do lol 😂
""I"s that a PS4 in your pants and do you want Axl to start a RIOT???"
Axel needs to be careful. There are some legitimately tough people out their and he ain't one of them.
The only thing the Axel Rose of today needs to remember is “ Did you wanna Supersize that,man”
the guy "stump" was the true legend of all this. after the trial he gets his autograph on the picture that sparked this riot 🤣 fucking long live stump
Axl: Are you serious..?
Axl: ...Well, ok.
Hope he got a good pay day, he rocks.🤣🤣
Is there a better term used here than "ego thrust"?
Kinda like a 'spoiler' for a car. Sad and funny.
Art Vandelay we always called them “hero ramps” but ego thrust is much better.
Nah, you pretty much nailed it! Put the Ego away!!
Ha, I thought they were saying eagle truss.
I wondered what that was.
IDK, saddle tramp is a pretty good one as well!! 😂
I’m still waiting for the throw down between Axle and Vince Neil
Vince niel is a chad
Lol theyll be fighting over the last dinner roll at old country buffet..
It’s axl
😂😂
Wrestlemania a lot of people would pay to see that
They made Axel paint curbs on the highway. The FM rock station announced that if "You stopped for an autograph that the one you will get will be from the Deputy & for obstruction of justice." It was hilarious!
How does this not end with a picture of the signed photo??
EXACTLY!
Legality...
It did , in court
probably didn't happen
Got bootlegged
I was there. One of the most exciting shows I've ever been too. Skid Row was great, caught a pick, still have it.
It was total Rock-N-Roll.
Fuzzy's Studio I was 3 years old when that show happened but I would have fucking loved to live that generation. “Rock ‘n roll” just doesn’t feel like rock ‘n roll any more these days....
What does 'caught a pick' mean?
3Vimages catching a pick, that a guitar player would throw out into the crowd, was an exciting possibility to have occur when going to a show back in those days. Equivalent to catching a baseball at a game.
@@deathbat87 I turned 18 in 1981. Saw em all in their prime. VH, AC/DC(Next to any Pink Floyd/Roger Waters show the Back In Black tour was the greatest thing I have ever seen), Dio, Maiden, Triumph, Aerosmith, Sabbath, BOC, Stones, Floyd, Metallica, Megadeath, Priest.. you name it. Was in 2 riots, one in New Hampshire in 76' at a ZZ Top show and one in 82' at Rush in Hollywood Fla. Both were caused by the venue not opening doors on time. At the Rush show they had let people in and then closed the doors again when they found out the band was gonna be late. So about 7000 people were seeing other people already inside and they couldn't get in, so they started smashing in the doors, we got tear gassed at that one.
I considered myself lucky as there were shows where people died, AC/DC and The Who come to mind, not from riots but from uncontrollable crowds rushing to their seats. These days I'm a roadie, and quite a bit has been learned since then, by the bands, the venues and the fans, and you don't see much more than a few fights at shows these days. One thing though, we never had to worry about some crazy fuck showing up and opening fire on the crowd. You younger folks have a whole other set of shit to deal with and I don't admire that. But hang in there, Rock and Roll will come around again. Bands like Ghost and Greta Van Fleet are bringing in huge crowds, and the resurgence is starting..
I was there too, I caught a microphone!
Their earlier days were their Golden Age. I remember when Appetite For Destruction was first released. Luckily we had an early copy, and we played it everywhere we went. Every performer in the band had recognised individual presence on the stage, and still maintain that presence.
So its no wonder that G&R has had so many problems in its history. Anyways, they earned their fame, and deserve the recognition, and yeah the criticism too. Awesome job guys! :D
What a great Video
I have so much Respect for the crew of people who work behind the scenes to bring the Concerts to the Fans in a Safe Environment..
You guys are the True Rockstars 👍😎
axl was the best & worst thing to happen to G n R.
Ole Miss just the best. Sure, there were incidents here and there but a majority of the time he was great
not talking about his performing, his behavior back in the 90s was not for the most part was not appreciated by the fans who paid $ to see GnR.
nah slash was more great than axl. axl was a cock
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 well he was the reason they split up you know
Cameron Guitar you should consider Axls side of the story first before making an opinion.
I think the most amazing thing about this entire incident is while everything was going on the rest of the band kept playing, just slightly quieter.
So axl is basically the Shawn Michaels of rock n roll
this...this comment
Yep
Yup, Just like Shawn is the Axl of WWE
Wow the fact that so many guns n roses fans actually know Shawn Michaels of the WWE blows my mind.
ChrisS82 Really? Wrestling and Heavy metal have been hand in hand since the 80s.
At least it had a happy ending with Axl signing the photo lol
Stopped being a fan of G’n’R when they walked off stage during the Metallica show where James Hatfield was burned by pyro. The stories afterward about how snobby Axl acted and was drinking champagne and basically saying screw the fans and they lost me. They had some great music but I turn the channel everytime they are played on the radio. Fans made them and so many other bands truly love their fans. Axl is the exception and it’s a shame. Great documentary for sure! Wish they would have played some retro Skid Row! Thanks for sharing this!
Alter Egos you “heard” these stories but how can you know they’re true? I know Jason said he was drinking/smoking but I doubt he was saying screw the fans etc. Btw it was the whole bands decision to leave, they were having trouble with their equipment and couldn’t hear themselves
Shoulda had 'Monkey Business' playing as the background!! skid row
Supposedly he was sick with a flu, but that’s jut rumored
Reef2480 he had severe damage to his vocal cords near the point where they’d collapse, it was really bad.
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 what, are you an attorney for gnr?
The Chicago show was cancelled 10 minutes before the doors were suppose to open. I was in the parking lot of the Rosemont Horizon when word went out.
They were in there hotel room watching speed racer cartoons with there super model girl friends was there with them .
@psychotic memories, Me too! A cop broke the news in the parking lot. The thing is, I could've seen em Thursday night(my friends dad had connections for any night Thur-Sat.. But I wanted to see them on a weekend night so chose Friday. Then he wouldn't show up that night because of some misdemeanors in IL or MO, I don't remember exactly. He was trying to avoid being arrested.
Oh please no you weren't.
"it was nuts!!! I opened the show, hello?!??!" I love Sebastian Bach, the guy is too funny!
I worshipped this band as a child. Sadly they went out in flames much like I did with my life. Live and learn.
Like most of us lol
Pretty much
Yep. Early 90s was my darkest drug times. Thankfully I eventually grew up. RIP to those of us that didn't make it.
Sorry mate. I'm glad you are still with us.
Well if success is not an option, you should fail spectacularly and enjoy it? I dunno, I get disappointed with myself sometimes too, but at least we're not seeking permanent solutions to temporary problems, amirite?
Now you know why Nirvana didn’t wanna tour with them..
Bach talking about Izzy's amp...🤣🤣🤣
Axel is the definition of a narcissist
Bipolar
He deserve jail this M F 🖕🏽him
I had the biggest crush on him as a kid...then I grew up n' realised what a whiny little bitch he could be. He DEFINITELY ain't no Layne Staley. Pity the legend passed while this fucker still struts around (NOT wishing death on Axl though..just for Layne to be alive👌🏻). Being a guitar player, I preferred Slash than Axl anyway
Let's not forget closet Sociopath!
I guess he spells It Axl, But who gives a fuck!
Cameras don't kill people, egos with leaping skills stopping a show kill people. 😁
5150mario
idiots with cameras start problems.
who was killed again?
5150mario funny how this doesn’t matter a bit now with everyone carrying a cell phone with a camera in it. Ok, he broke the rules smuggling in his camera. But jumping into the crowd, ending a show, starting a riot is not how you handle it. Lots of people could of been killed. I hope AR got a huge bill from his management for damages, lawsuits, shows cancelled.
AR is a moron who thinks he is entitled to his way or no way. He is going to take his ball and go home.
Adam Mufich yea I love how he blames the security after he got manhandled like the scrawny bitch he is! He's such a pussy
5:35 “he’s already in flight coming at me” 🤣🤣🤣
Wow. What a band. They said that on any given night Guns could be the tightest, best rock band on the planet or a complete train wreck. Axl was completely predictablely unpredictable. The most generous sweet guy you ever want to meet one night and the biggest petulant egomaniac the next. I missed seeing them once in LA and after they cancelled in Vancouver due to Hetfield burning himself. What a drag.
Amazing job on this documentary ! All this time I 've only know of the footage of Axl jumping off stage , nothing more about the riot and other footage around this incident. Awesome
They call the outshoot of the stage into the crowd an "ego thruster"!!!! I've played music forever and i've never heard it called that. Absolutely hilarious.
Props to Stump for going up to Axl at the end, that's funny. And to Axl for showing good spirit.
The inevitable consequence of excessive alcohol, too many drugs and a massive ego .
Axl wasn't a drug user. Only alcohol.
That's why gn'r broke up. Look at Steven today, poor guy can't talk normally, Slash was even reported dead bc of the drugs. They were drowning in drugs and Axl was against that.
Axel looks like momma fratteli from the goonies now. Lol.
Say what you want about Axl... Signing that photo after all said and done, is VERY rock-n-roll!
Kyle Mc he was the best rocker of all time even with the ego and attitude which I think was more drinking and doing drugs that caused his out bursts also alot of pressure to be that famous wouldn't be easy
Paul Mader naw, not even close, very good, yes.... Most potential, very good possibility!
Kyle Mc I say he was he had a unique voice plus awesome band members great range of songs even with the attitude I like him,people forget these guys are drinking taking drugs all the time there's gonna be some trouble
@@paulmader1052 with out a doubt best of all time !!!! there have been many many rock stars who have displayed similar behavior as AXL ROSE with similar attitude hello thats what big stars do sometime goes with territory .
@@mikepate9371 yeah forsure it actually sells records and gets them girls so yeah plus Axl rose wasn't that bad it's alot of pressure when everyone wants a piece of you, his music was so awesome though
lil mr.rose gets mad and goes home...how cute
You have no idea bro, and that’s too sad to be cute.
Axl...the baby years. So much for being the 'tough' rock star. Suck it up and get on with the show.
kamaboko1 he could kick your ass bud
Axl's a puss which is why he threw a hissy and left. He already took the camera. I saw Lynyrd Skynyrd (band and crew) jump in the crowd and throw punches at fans in the second row near Chicago. Lynyrd Skynyrd was back on stage within 10 minutes and finished what turned out to be a great concert. Since Axl's a pussy, he decided to pick up his toys and left like he did in Montreal and Rio. .
just like all the women axl use to beat up on. not so tough.
sicfrynut innocent until proven guilty, that being that there is no proof he did that
Hey man, getting your picture taken is painful!
It's so stupid that some people defend this as being ""rock and roll". Rock and roll is playing your show and having people enjoy themselves and go home safely.
Hey......
Izzy's amp was a bus stop, his Marshall was at a bus stop!!!🙀
Terrible!!!! Never see!!! Desgrace!!😨😨
Axl was the cry baby of rock
David to be fair he did have a lot of things going on in his life from his childhood not to mention the stress of having the whole world watching you and having to constantly live up to high expectations of music I would get pretty stressed and lash out a lot if I where in his shoes
No. The cry baby is something useful in rock😉
Still and always will be the proud crybaby doosh azzhole. Talentless thug who can't fight when dressed like a chic or a dood. Panties and a Boa to rock out on stage? Yeah, OK. If that doesn't scream 'I'm trapped in the closet?' you idiots are deaf from her sissy screams and blind from denial. HA HA!
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I think people tried to make him look like that cause he wouldn't take shit from anyone
I was driving past there after getting fireworks in St Charles County just after the riot started. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many red and blue lights since.
God damn.. back when rock and metal were badass
Dude, when I read your comment it just reminded me of the intro to this. It's funny as hell.
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That would have been the best concert ever tho! When Axl wanted to tour with Nirvana!!! Good luck with that! But man woulda been phenominal. Kurt hated Axls guts
Axl hated grunge! Tf u talkin about?! Lol!
Devin's right...Axl wanted Nirvana to open for them. Kurt turned him down. In true Axl form, he had a tantrum over it. Axl wore his Nirvana hat all the time until their fued. It's even by his side in the Don't Cry filmclip
He did. Just on sight. Awful judgy for someone who marched for inclusion.
@@nelliesilvers1210 I just read all about that the other day. All this time I thot it was Axl being a dick! Turns out it was Kurt being a dick! Axl wanted to jam with him. Weird how judgmental he was....all the while supporting wat he deemed the underdog. And being the person he hated. Dude was fucked up
@@shirleyallen5178 I never take sides of a fight unless it includes someone I personally love and I know the facts. I love Kurt but not personally (dangit😏) and I don't know the facts. One minute I'm reading Axl instigated it and the next, Kurt did. I'll never know but they both had arrogance in them. Axl was a prick towards many people and made a shit ton of enemies so, even if Kurt's the instigator, I still tend to lean in his favour. Plus the fact that Courtney was the driver in that relationship and everyone knows what a manipulative, instigating POS she is. Either way, Axl was guilty asf when Kurt died and felt bad over their dramas..he didn't know what was going to happen though so had nothing to blame himself for. To me, his remorse shows empathy.. something I thought Axl lacked before the event of Kurt's death. He's gotten humble as he's aged and wisened up as far as I can tell which is obv great
He had an ego extension. Priceless!!
The amp at the bus stop is pretty damn funny.
Let's see Axl try that now. EVERYONE has a camera! :D
It’s too bad that Kelsey Grammer had to get his dad to pick him up after the show and that his Dad didn’t believe him when he told him there was a riot.
That’s Tony Jordan. Lol
Axl was an axlhole
You mean is an "axlhole." He' still a dick.
rlta04 I respect that you used the word “was”. People need to realise he’s changed now
So he's a little less of a dick now? He is an asshole. And he sounds like Micky Mouse joined a rock band with an amazing guitarist.
Fuck off you wish you could be as talented as him he gets more money and pussy then you will ever have
He's not the one that chose to riot.
out of nowhere he dives off the stage and now all the sudden "...due to the lame ass security..." ?
what he meant was (not saying he's right)... 'due to the lame ass security not being able to get the camera'
I was at the show in Dallas Starplex Ampetheater just after this. 7th row. Skid row kicked ass, then there was a 2 hour wait. Axel was mad there was a curfew, so he said FU we aren't even going on until the curfew starts! for 2hrs the crowd was mostly calm, but they they started throwing beer cups. not those flimsy solo cups, the hard plastic ones. from 7th row if you looked up at the hill behind us it looked like snow. then it got bad and it looked like a Blizzard! our dates were getting scared and we started to leave, just as we got out of our row. the lights went off and i got NAILED in the side of the head with a stack of beer cups, almost knocked me out. then lights come up and GNR comes out. but they sounded bad. I mean real bad. we stayed 3 songs and left.
The dude gets his autograph LMAO
how could a whimpy 130 pound guy like axl knock anyone over, even if he jumped at them? Dude needed his butt thumped hard...his attitude killed that band.
130 pounds + acceleration + stage height = considerable moving mass
There was no Guns n Roses without Axl. He was the TNT that made the band skyrocket. Not to mention he wrote all the lyrics. All his melody.
In Australia we call it Ranga-Rage. A Ranga is a red-head.
Overkill Maximus it’s 2019. So much more information has come out about what went down in the breakup that to solely blame Axl for it is just idiotic
130 pounds yea....but Axle is also a martial arts expert....not something everybody knows
I'm going to see them tomorrow night in St.Louis for the first time since this happened.
C K , The show was amazing. It really was. He made vague references to the riot in the 90's through witty remarks such as "It seems like just yesterday we were here.." and when introducing Slash he called him his "partner in crime, returning to the scene of the crime" lol. He was very gracious tho and mentioned several times how glad he was to be back in St.Louis and thanked everyone for coming a few times. His tribute performance of Black Hole Sun was cool too.
I'm curious @Jennifer Durso , how was it? I went to the show in Vancouver last week and Axl was in a great mood, despite this city being not happy with them. He cancelled back in 2002 the day of the show. That caused a riot...but we're famous for those now. But did he mention anything about St Louis?
Yeah, we got Black Hole Sun as well. I've been wanting to see them since I was 10. At 3.5 hours - it was a spectacular show. Glad you had a good time & that Axl was in a good mood :)
Jennifer Durso i thought gins n roses wete permanently banned from st. Louis ever since this incident
Nicholas Reando Money talks :)
Pretty cool of Axl to sign that autograph on that pic for Stump tho 👍
I wonder what happened to the photos or video of that encounter!
This was there moment.
A couple of years later Nirvana turned up and made the band look like dragqueens 😭😭
@Tripper Harrison You have no idea what you're talking about. Alice In Chains and Soundgarden - just to mention two 'grunge' bands - shit all over Guns'N'Roses musically. They were both better live too...
@Tripper Harrison - Serious question, but did you get dropped on your head as a child? Grunge bands such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Soundgarden, COMPLETELY blew bands like GnR's out of the water with talent, creativity and the level of energy that was brought to these type of concerts. Considering Nirvana, and Kurt Cobain specifically came up with Grunge rock as an entirely new music genre, that alone puts Nirvana at a much higher recognition of respect than bands like GnR's. Not to mention, even with Kurt being gone for almost 25 years, he still makes more money than that brain dead Axl Rose, lord of the flys. I mean, it take a serious moron of EPIC proportions to screw up a band that big just because of selfishness and ego! It's sad that people like you actually believe that bands such as Nirvana didn't bring something purely new and exciting to the music genre. They quite literally changed the way music is viewed in the world. You can thank Nirvana for bringing along not only all incredible Grunge bands, but also incredible post-grunge style hard rock bands such as Disturbed, Breaking Benjamin, Chevelle, Foo Fighters, Stone Temple Pilots, System of a Down, Mudvayne, Stone Sour and Slipknot *JUST* to name a few! Try to really give this style of music a little more credit.
Gert Madsen biggest joke of the century
son!
theres guns n roses
and theres other rock bands!
and now all those grunge bands are lucky to play a 15k seat arena. Guns N Roses is selling out stadiums and is headed to put together the highest grossing tour in history.
Just put a big chicken wire fence in front of axle , like that band that played in the film Roadhouse ! Ha
Blues brothers.
There was also a scene in "Great Balls of Fire" where Jerry Lee Lewis was playing behind chicken wire
Roadhouse!
@Dave E "His name is Dalton"
Ghost !
Rocked sent me here. Great documentary!!
I like that G'n R always credited The Replacements as an early influence, especially simply being themselves, keeping it real, not faking anything, no phony smiles or painted on costumes. And oddly, not caring about money or fame. If they felt the vibe, the show was gonna be awesome. If not, Rose would likely throw a fit, cuss someone out or throw a punch and the show would be over. Small wonder one of the surviving Replacements played on Axl's second generation of G'n R. I guess that's why they had grudging respect for Nirvana, too. Authenticity, man - this is a serious revolution.
Sounds like sebastian bach been inhaling some helium back stage
I was a freshman in high school when this happened (wasn’t at the show) and we laughed about it for quite a while afterwards. I was a loyal KSHE listener at the time and remember them having an event at the Arch where anybody that wanted to could show their appreciation for G&R by flipping the bird in a group photo (I wasn’t there either). Rolling Stone Magazine took notice and basically said the people of St. Louis had nothing better to do with their time than act like idiots. LOL!
if I had to sit thru Skid Row and then get a shortened GnR set I would riot too.
"Take that, take that... get that guy and take that..........................I'll take it goddammit!"
I Like the GNR SoundTrack Cut Ya Made.
"I Said it's Perfect!"
LoL.
This is so awesome always wanted to hear what really happened. So legendary. Video is super well done.
Moral of the story: Always bring a hand truck to a GnR riot.
Or a pissjug
Good lord what was the point of this documentary??? it just makes everyone divisive to blame one guy for that riot is silly! Axl isn't very professional people payed there money to see him and his band and he has a baby fit.... Axl isn't innocent in it he lit the match..... it's a miracle nobody was killed!
Coma Toes Axl
He didn't light the match... the guy who didn't follow the rules did. Axl simply dumped a tanker truck full of gas on it.
7:05 all you need to know about Miss Rose.
Saw Skid Row in the 80’s in a small club in NJ… they were a great live band. Saw GNR at MetLife Stadium early 90’s with Aerosmith… one of the best shows ever.
I was friends with Axl just before he made it. I knew that fame would turn his ego into a .monster. I wasn't wrong.
Great name
What was he like? What types of activities did you do together?
Sebastian Bach, sounds like a wino drunk! His wheezing laugh
35 years of debauchery will leave its mark.
Big toker as well
Axl only wishes he could pee without help now, much less be as good as he was then. This just goes to show, Axl took for granted how amazing his voice really was, it was simply taken away from him and never given back. Look at Axl now, the best he could get now would be as a street performer.
He is more talented and has more money than you'll ever even imagine LOL I think he's doing just fine and wouldn't give a fuck about what you'd have to say. He's a legend!!!!
@@Nyfancam01
I agree, he WAS a legend, now he's just a sad old dude that can barely walk. He even said it himself:
"The day I threw in the towel thinking I knew it all, was the day I unknowingly lost it all, from my health to my voice to my plastic surgeries, to all my money, everything was a mistake, if only I would have listened to Ripped Hole, I would still have it all today"
- Quote - Axl Rose
At the last minute on May 24th 1991, I had someone I knew call me up and ask if I wanted his 2 tickets, 8 rows from center stage at Alpine Valley to see GNR and I took him up on his offer. Paid most of my paycheck that friday to him and me and my buddy raced up to East Troy Wisconsin in a beat up, 4 cylinder 1979 mustang and the damn thing barely made it. I remember how huge the crowds were and major news outlets including MTV news was there interviewing people. Skid Row was on time and played their butts off, but GNR was late getting to the stage and Axl Rose had a cast on his leg. The show was good, but they played songs off Use your illusion 1@2 which weren't out yet, so we didn't know any of those songs. I thought about going to the Chicago show later on, but Axl made sure that didn't happen. Lol!