Echo (Complete Series) - Angry Review
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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex Review and Breakdown all Five Episode of Disney Marvel's Latest Streaming Show Spin-off Echo! How is it? Was it necessary? Did it deliver on the Dark & Grittier Promise? Find out! Watch as we slowly descend into madness.
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I refuse to believe that Wilson Fisk - a man who learned Mandarin and Japanese in secret just to know what his business associates were saying - opted to not learn ASL for someone he essentially views as a daughter.
That part!
Good point lol
I thought he said "I love you" in ASL in Hawkeye.
fr i said why the hell didnt they just have him know ASL so we dont have this woman having to repeat the dialogue back slowing down the show
For reference, Mandarin and Japanese are some of the hardest languages to learn, ASL is designed to be learned easily for people who become deaf or mute.
When Alex is starting the review staring into the abyss with sad disappointed eyes, you know your in for a treat.
That's his resting face. I don't think he has ever not made that face.
Like a puppy at the ethunisia clinic
I love Alex’s harsh criticisms😂
Alex is a assuuipe. Who cares what he thinks.
You're*
Echo just made me think about how great Daredevil (the show and character) is.
Born Again about to be trash.. 18 EPISODES?? That’s overkill.
@@firstlast9846 i think they completely scrapped the original script
@@craig7405they did they have start to rework the show completely
@@craig7405 They filmed half of the episodes and realized it was hot trash, so they booted the writers and are starting from scratch.
I mean he still is.
Vincent D'Onofrio and Charlie Cox are incredible actors in those roles. What they did with the Netflix shows is some of the best Marvel live-action ever.
Too bad their performances were wasted on this toilet bowl quality show and it was essentially a bait and switch of cool male characters to promote a female character that most fans have never heard of and it wasn't even a good performance by the "main actress" in her own show.
Right, people want to watch them not this Echo trash. I hope Disney go bankrupt.
Daredevil is still the best Marvel show to date.
If they just had hired the Daredevil writer to continue his vision from Netflix it would have been a slam dunk. He literally has nothing else going on
"He" is the problem.
Yup
Those facial expressions after returning from watching episodes 4 & 5 😂😂😂
Timestamp?
That was me too😅
@@jeffcarrier98081:02:08
@@jeffcarrier98081:02:00
Timestamp?
Last 2 episode ratings start at 1:02:00
You are a kind, compassionate, and generous human being. We won't forget.
What was the score for episode 5, i just saw the 4th got a 9
@@JuanPellat1:49:02
@@JuanPellat I think they all gave it a them 2. Overall show, 3.
Haa!
The difference in energy from 1:01:34 to when they start the next part here 1:02:08 is hilarious.
You can literally feel their defeat as if they just don't want to even finish.
😆👍
They really drifted away from the source material and did their own thing here. Echo isn't even a dolphin anymore. At this point they're basically two tottatlly different franchises.
Well played
😂😂😂
I wanted to see Echo fight the underwater scary alien 👾
Also no aliens...wtf?
Positively hydrophobic of Disney, humanwashing aquatic mammals like this.
Alex needs his own show lmao his expression at the start of the video says it all lmao
I think the scene that best represents the current MCU is Fisk puts the contact lens in Maya's eye so she can see the virtual arms doing ASL as Fisk is talking. Here you have Vincent D'Onofrio with stellar performance as Kingpin, which is what we want, but the Ironman-like CGI arms appear in front of him and it looks goofy and distracting. The tech gets in the way of the performance. That's modern MCU in a nutshell.
That’s Disney for you. They take what you love and butcher it.
NGL I don’t feel the same fear of Kingpin I did in the Netflix shows.. he’s been beaten by a teenager and is just gonna get slapped around at this point
I can't take Fisk seriously after seeing him cry like a little kid when Maya used her powers. I understand it's in his head or whatever. But seeing Kingpin, a big ass dude, in a small kids room crying like a child looked goofy as hell...lol..they could've at least got a kid to play his younger self if they wanted to do a scene like that
@@ItzMeWillOr just not do it at all because nobody who liked the Daredevil show wants to see that
@@lancekemal8989Clearly NONE of you read comics or understand Fisks back story before this show.
Disney sits on so many goddamn golden eggs. They could have continued Defenders, Punisher, Daredevil series that everybody wanted, instead they did Echo and Hawkeye.
They could have done the Old Republic, Sith Triumvirate or Starkiller story that everybody wants, instead they want to do a new Jedi Council and continuation of Rey's story.
They are just a bunch of loonies, crazies, completely detached from the things they create. Shameful to destroy so many amazing IP's
Revan is a woman, one of the influential Jedi is a woman, but nah m8, lets go Rey Skypatine
It's not just Disney, it's Lucasfilm, too. Everyone points the finger at Disney as the only one responsible for Star Wars being "RuInEd!1!!", but that's like blaming the CEO of McDonald's because your Big Mac was cold. It's the people behind the scenes at Lucasfilm who are holding Star Wars back, because they're fixated on legacy characters and cameos and Easter Eggs instead of trying anything genuinely new. The moronic fans just want more of the same crap and Lucasfilm (and Disney, by association) are happy to just keep shoveling it at them. Even when they claim they want better stuff, they'll go back to gushing about Luke Skywalker's latest bad-CGI cameo or nerding out over (a really badly written) Grand Admiral Thrawn.
Also, I've literally heard and seen no one expressing any desire for a Starkiller story. Besides, he's just as much as Mary-Sue (Marty-Stu?) as people say Rey was. Now, Old Republic? Hell yeah, put it in my freaking face. There's so much untapped potential there, and no threat of clumsy, heavy-handed cameos by legacy characters.
@Shatterhand2049 that bit at the end is probably why they won't touch it, there is few legacy characters to lean on and go member to that far in the past as much as I like the idea they'd probably only go back say 20 years before young anakin became involved... no thanks :(
You do know that there is going to be a Daredevil series, right?
Hell, the finale of Echo basically set up what Fisk is going to do in that series.
@@nahuelleandroarroyoRevan is a male. There are plenty of powerful female Jedi/Sith/gray in Star Wars though.
I never expected this review to be this long
Imagine if the series lasted 8 episodes, this would be way longer
Holy crap I didn't notice it was 2 hours
@@maxpower8763yeah what
lmao
That's what she said...
58:21 This is the first time ive seen Alex seemingly look annoyed from Joe😂
Can’t believe it doesn’t happen more with how much Joe interrupts everyone all the time.
Seeing as Alex does nothing but pessimistic comments, Yeah Joe should shut him up more.
@@BabyGollum His comments arent pessimistic though theyre realistic he just adds in a little a humor and sarcasm and i always end up agreeing with his and ojs opinion more, Ajs opinion always seems too "normie" for me.
@@joshuagutierrez592 They are. Everything he says, From his streams to videos. Its pessimistic comments.
@@BabyGollum Well for streams I cant speak on them but in the videos like i said i dont see them as pessimistic but realistic and the reason they sound so negative is because of the negative state this world is in.
I think Alex's action at the beginning says it all. The dude would rather fiddle around with his nails.
He'd rather be playing games
He hates being here
Let Alex speak. Man spits facts
At this point Alex should be on the right and Aj should sit with Oj 😂
Alex ain't scared...Joe acts like his world will fall apart if he speaks honestly and doesn't sugar coat everything
@@cosmicknight4665 Idk, About for the vidya game reviews, but for the movie reviews, that is definitely true, Alex SHOULD be on the right lol.
He should stop spitting though.
@@winstonsmith8482 agreed
Disney just can't seem to stop failing. Incredible how far they have dropped.
Lies.
@@LNER985 how OP is correct
Animated movies still doing good
@@EastSheriff No he isn't.
@LNER985 He 100% correct. Nobody is watching this or star wars.
I hate that stupid trope where villains don't pay the reward money, I get that they're bad guys but if you do that then why would anyone ever give you information
Alex review are golden. Disappointment with anger expressed with knowledge makes you rethink personal score of the show
Everytime I watch an Angry Joe Review, I'm here for Alex..
This Angry review probably gonna be more entertaining then the actual show
Same thing I was thinking haha
A good amount of time they are
What were you expecting from a show about a side character?
@@Dru2037 Andor was a side character.
than*
Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio deserve better damnit. Marvel needs to hire the writers from Daredevil and The Punisher series.
You should ask them for real.
@@johnsantos507they don’t give a fuck about you.
@@LoneWandererCollin Exactly. Hypocrite.
They don't WANT to make good stuff. That's what people don't get. They'd just continue what they were doing before with Daredevil is they did.
Theyd rather hire women and unproven people to direct their stuff.
It is sad that Disney can't even get close to Netflix daredevil or punisher
They were special fr 😢
With all that money and production power. And they used it to make a frisbee. How primitive
Fuck me, daredevil was a masterpiece holy shit
Disney now says netflix marvel shows are canon within the MCU 😅
Funniest bit is that Joe repeatedly says this DOESN'T have any M-SHE-U crap in it
Joe's a bit delusional and blind to the WOKE. This story is literally about a girlboss who channels the power of ancestral girlbosses to gain skills and knowledge she doesn't have. At least he gave it a fair score of a 3/10. This show is terrible and literally only exists to satisfy WOKE checkbosses - female lead check, person of color check, handicapped check, girlboss who is invincible due to plot armor and doesn't even have a background to justify her skills or powers check.
@@veeclash4157 What is it with you nerds and this obsession with the word work
The character Ellie from the movie "Contact" was an arrogant, passionate, know it all atheist, who showed up all the men around her with her brilliance. She also rejected Mathew Macoungnhey as a love interest (for most the movie). Yet, everyone loves that movie and loves that character. Criticisms about woke Hollywood and not criticizing women characters who are poorly written does not help or "empower"; sometimes I think Joe is being deliberately obtuse to cater to PC.
@@jessec.6876woke obviously describes the type of ideological crap that this show is
@@jessec.6876 Why are you bothered by the word 'work'? What? Can't get a job?
Yo the fact they made the trailer look so good and the show ended up being so trash is truly Oscar worthy
I've been saying this since that trailer: it never looked good. The first trailer, and a large portion of the marketing, only focusing on the action and barely any hints of the story was the give away that it was gunna be eh-to-bad.
Disney have done this since Last Jedi trailer so idk why you surprised 😂
I was actually surprised with the trailer that I was filled with a little glimmer of hope very little and then yeaaaaa
@@NHG97and that’s how you burn the last of any good faith left for those hold outs who think Disney will put out something quality again haha
You guys remember Shang Chi? Cause it's been like 30 movies since and he hasn't been seen. WTF are they doing?
That's because Disney/Marvel never considered Shang Chi as a serious hero. To them, his movie was just an "experiment." They did it to fulfill a diversity quota and a thinly veiled attempt to grab mainland-Chinese ticket sales while pretending that they were trying to appeal to Chinese-Americans (which was a total disappointment). They had zero plans for Shang Chi in the Phases 4-6 announcement for a reason, because they simply don't care about him.
Feels like the Eternals, just a one off event. I know a Blade movie is in the works, but where's Kit Harrington as the Black Knight?
I’m happy with not seeing Simu Lee again
@@firstlast9846you and me both..
@@firstlast9846racist much?
This was the most watered down TVMA show ever lol 😂.
I think I'll just rewatch the first season of Daredevil again
Not a bad idea regardless if you like this show or not
We have been blessed in the capability to refer back to such golden gems.
I made a big mistake of watching Daredevil season 1 right before watching Echo... It makes me miss how good Marvel could be again.
In these modern times I’m so grateful Alex speaks his mind.
Wait wait wait. This new character that we know barely anything about got to not only shoot Kingpin in the face, but is also offered his criminal empire, and the iconic hammer that he used on his dad in her first season?
That's so lame. Why give her so much stuff?
Because woman...
Yassssss slay queen
@@LaMigraTX Actually, no, I'll slay for you.
She should be able to mimic whoever she fights perfectly, instead, she summons the power of her ancestors. Haha
They changed it mainly because her comic powers are too similar to Taskmaster’s.
She is the "echo" of her ancestors
@@arisenpaiI'm gonna need a drink after hearing that
I'm guessing that her ancestors didn't have that power or that it just didn't work out well for them.
@@Phanthief95 This is a change I actually agreed with. It's just way too similar to Taskmaster. (who the MCU already ruined...)
Alex never disappoints with his reactions 😂
Neva
Its dull at this stage.
@@dmolmalowski yeah I'm kind of getting sick of alexs' doomer attitude. He needs to get laid etc
angry joe, better joe & depressed alex.
@@ThoraxtheDarkk I just got laid, and most "modern" media is still trash, and Alex is still correct 🤣
It's obvious that creatively speaking the executive management at Disney is devoid of any creative thought. At this point no one in those top management positions should only be managing the money to generate profit and not tell the true ip fans what to do.
Did you watch the show tho?
Idk what’s so hard about one of the biggest company ever can’t hire the best writers and directors and stay out the way and just collect the checks
This was 100% a box checking endeavor.
lmao joe keep bitching about the "MsheU" but everything he says proving it
Do you know how she beats daredevil in the comics. She knows she can’t take him straight on so she figures out he’s blind and so makes him temporarily deaf and beats him
was expecting them to do that in this show
@@gabrielchin4161 yeah I knew they weren’t even gonna try. I doubt they even read any of those comics
I watched Echo and all I could say at the end was "meh". I didn't hate it, but its definitely nothing special. They slapped a TV-MA rating on it, released a trailer making you think its going to be more that what it really is, and then Marvel decided not to commit to going all in with the mature rating and it shows throughout almost all of the series with a few random exceptions. When you put an amazing character like Wilson Fisk in the show, and the highlight of the series for him is beating up an ice cream man, then you know your series has issues. The end fight was also really underwhelming and kind of stupid. The only thing truly good about the series is how Marvel made everyone think its something its not from the pre-release trailers. The weird part is you will get a random situation here and there where the show deserves the mature rating and resembles the Netflix shows, like the ice cream man beating, but then it spends the rest of the time mostly following the usual failing Marvel formula for just about everything these days.
It annoyed me the most is that the writers are making him a MAYOR?? The same guy who the public KNOW killed FBI agents, took over the FBI and had his reputation ruined TWICE?!
@@firstlast9846 yeah like wtf if he would have used his nefarious sources and strong armed them that would have been so much better? Like hire me pls?????
You do know that is the irony about us right? We literally vote for career criminals even knowing they committed crimes....Trump, this could have been a corny reference to that or just blatantly the public will still accept corruption. @@firstlast9846
From your review, it doesn’t sound meh, it sounds terrible. Are you sure it’s not terrible?
why don't you just watch the shit on your own?@@calvinstephenson6232
They really missed their chance to make her more of a villainous character for now.. instead, they made her kinda bad for a bit and immediately finished her redemption arc by episode 5 lol.
Fast and furious ending too 😂
@therotten6152 man they didn’t even allow her to be an antagonist for a bit..
I was hoping the show would end with her still wanting to be the “Queenpin” and have her slowly get that redemptive arc later on, during DD or something..
Nah, 5 eps is all she needed lol
@@N1ON-17of even better don’t giver her a redemption arc
@@thematiasmadness7010 agreed!
From the moment she pointlessly kills that bird, as a child, that was enough to seal it.
But na let’s give them all random healing glowy hands and erase that action in 15 seconds.
Joe really can't let them speak. It is ok to have matural conversation but don't ask them to rate things and interrupt them
AJ is always a fence sitter. He tows the line. As a former diehard fan, he’s become a giant disappointment. This is what happens when you sale out
What a sell out
I think he genuinely feels that way
Not everyone is decisive on everything, especially when expectations for good film are lower than ever right now
I've never seen a sponsorship for a videogame company or any filmmakers soo maybe it's not about money.
Maybe it's about personality and that he may respect his friends' opinions more than his in certain circumstances
Not everything is a conflict of interest.
I think you hate him because he doesn't vote how you would vote.
I'm guessing your bad faith comes from a politics disagreement more than media analysis purism.
Unless Manscaped or Surfshark are in Disney's, Sony Pictures', EA's and Ubisoft's payroll
lmaoo
Im wondering if them:
- trying their best to cancel it
- releasing it all at once
- releasing it in the middle of the night
- lift review embargos the moment the show came out
were signs that this wasn't going to work...
its clearly been cut to hell too. that first episode just turns into a clip show half way through.
It was released 9 PM EST. That's not the middle of the night that's normal and the same time Loki episodes would drop. Also lifting the embargo once the product drops is pretty normal.
@@ge2719 It was reshot heavily.
@@TriplicataLifting a review embargo that late isn't uncommon, but it's also typically not done for products that the company has faith in performing well
The Disney fall off will be studied in the history books
Alex's fatigued, despondent, face in the first 10s basically tells me all I needed to know; luckily you guys are entertaining and interesting enough for me to keep watching XD
Oh my god bruh how many times we needa do dese typa comments
Is fatigued. He doesn't own the fatigue.
That’s just him all the time. Even when something is good he’s barely enthusiastic
@@super.somarionI mean he does it every video so I guess every video? 😅
Alex is like that for 98% of reviews though. You can pretty much count on him to hate everything they review...
When your showrunner thinks the character they are hired to make a show about has a 'lame power,' hire someone else.
Joe finding any excuse to give this show an inkling of praise < Alex keeping it real like always
why do ppl view negative opinions as keeping it real?
it's not an assumption...I can hear his opinion right now@@asimhussain8716
@@asimhussain8716well hes not wrong though. I dont think having different tastes is a bad thing in reviews. Alex I like but he can be over harsh and joe can go a little too easy. But thats what makes them who they are and unique
do you honeslty think thats how critics should operate? "joe gave some praise for moments he liked" = bad? needed to say the writers need to be fired and never have a job again and the entire series sucked and also make sure to not praise or give credit to any moments that might have been okay = good?
@@AngryJoeShow you tell em Joe!
It looked unnatural because his legs suddenly became super short while standing, then slowly went back to normal size
Wow they’re really treating daredevil like shit lately, the man doesn’t deserve that
Except he isn’t though.
He's a man that is why. They'll use him to prop up non male characters.
@@achaudhari101sure he is
its what happens when producers hand a b-tier IP to a streaming service, only for it to do amazing! it then gets the attention of the executive suits who cant stop tampering with it and ruins the great thing they had
He hasn’t had his show yet what are you talking about??
“I'm tired boss” - Alex
“I know” - A.J.
Hahaha
I think the most important thing for the Netflix series wasn’t the mature rating. That’s great and all. But at the end of the day it’s all about the writing.
In a good comic run, Echo had a base Super Power like Task Master - she could copy the fight/combat style of her opponent. Hence being able to go toe to toe with Daredevil as an example. She also had various "other" OP genuine Powers depending on the run/writers. But no, Disney writers have no clue at all. Pretty sure they never even read a comic book with the character in it.
Yet she was killed off in the comics and brought back to life outta no where and clint barton wore her ronin suit in end game
Been saying for years we need a R Rated corner of the MCU, Do the 90s style dark stories Marvel Knights, Punisher, Blade, Moon Knight. It would breathe new life into the series. Like Harry Potter did the stories needed to mature with the audience.
I just didn't like that she loses a fight to Hawkeye but when she fights Daredevil she holds her own and arguably wins. Keep in mind that when she fought DD, she is supposed to be a teenager whereas vs Hawkeye she is leader of Tracksuit Mafia.
Street-level vigilante who isn’t Spider-Man or Avenger who was a heavily trained assassin.
Which do you think is going to be the tougher fight? Just remember that Netflix Daredevil has also gotten his ass handed to him several times.
She does not arguably “win” she gets crushed by a shelf and disarmed several times.
@@Phanthief95who wins? A guy who has enhanced super senses, trained by ninjas and a boxer , or some guy that’s primary way of fighting is usually with a bow?
A bow that took out bigger threats than daredevil ever imagind 🤓@@santi_super_stunts2573
@@santi_super_stunts2573 Again, trained assassin. Former SHIELD agent. Helped save the world multiple times.
Disney had one job to continue Marvel and keep the audience interested post Endgame. Not only have they failed, but they've completely desecrated a legacy that was (and should've been) untouchable.
I wanted Echo to fail before it came out. I want Disney to fail as a whole. They keep pushing a quality of product that repeatedly fails and keep making the same mistakes. So please fail and go away. Open the market up for someone else.
Honest question to Angry Joe who didn't find Echo's weird delayed kick against DareDevil CRINGE -- *Why would the visual feint of a kick work on a blind man?*
Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't Matt able to tell how many fingers Foggy was holding up? Because from what I remember, even the Daredevil show was inconsistent about his abilities. He could tell how many fingers Foggy held up, but couldn't hear the no-heartbeat ninjas until he listened for their breath. I'm not saying Echo was a good show (it wasn't), but this criticism seems really overblown to me. Correct me if I'm wrong though :)
@@albertjohnston1026Technically at least in comics daredevil can semi see anyways he’s not a normal blind man there’s a reason his eyelids are red it helps him be able to see the outlines of physical objects not saying you’re wrong though
I genuinely do not care about the character of Echo. I personally just want more Kingpin and Daredevil.
And you’re going to get that when Born Again comes out.
@@achaudhari101 what's Born Again?
Daredevil’s show for the MCU.
@@achaudhari101 oh thank you
It's not that having a "strong woman" or "female empowerment" necessarily means it will be bad. Invincible has Atom Eve and several other badass women and everyone seems to like it. But how many bad movies/games/tv shows have there been recently where the marketing campaign focused on having a woman and/or minority which was praised by mainstream critics for its "inclusion" while having terrible storytelling/characters/writing/direction/acting? At some point you can hardly blame people for spotting a pattern, even if it isn't *necessarily* the "inclusion" that is making it bad.
I think the only time "inclusion" Made a bad film seem good imo(critic wise and financially) was Captain marvel and I think most of that good will came from it being at the end of the infinity saga.
"Inclusion" is nice when done with effort so critics comment on it but it can't single handedly redeem a show critically and I've yet to see a good amount of examples for that. Bad movies do bad, universally, regardless of inclusion ie The Marvels
Its just sooooo trendy, gotta hop on that bandwagon baby!
It's an issue because they care more about it than the product, so when you see people praising it's "Diversity and inclusion" , but not the story or acting, take it as a warning.
People like Kate Bishop from Hawkeye they could of easily made her better and given her focus from Clint as she is strong women
The only thing I know about echo is that when the enemy places an ongoing card on her location she removes it
Marvel snap is the only reason i know majority of these smaller characters lol.
@@Dreggy990 fr lol
Bruh
*"Hey here's a female character whos abilties make her a cool tactical powerhouse, it's similar to taskmaste-"*
*"She takes karate classes!"*
*"Oh. Uhm. Sure okay."*
Joe: I don’t think they should lose their job.
Joe two seconds later: 4/10
He reacted like Alex said that person should become homeless LOL. No, become better or find something you're good at.
After Daredevil's "walk of shame" in She-Hulk and then him losing a fight in EP.1 of Echo, it's clear Disney is intent on destroying any good will Netflix built with their excellent show.
U didn’t watch the episode did you? Cause he clearly did not lose the fight
Daredevil won that fight comfortably?
I’m not defending the show but, he did not lose that fight
What's exactly wrong with his "walk of shame"? How does it "destroy" his character? Daredevil isn't always a serious character. He can have some lighthearted stuff every now and than.
The netflix mcu non canon shows are under disney as well. Netflix did not make the marvel shows. Netflix is only the Distributor. Daredevil (TV series) Production companies -Marvel Television,ABC Studios,DeKnight Productions (season 1)
They were made by marvel tv and abc tv under disney so anybody who keeps saying marvel mcu never did hardcore R is incorrect. Marvel entertainment made the netflix shows.
Vincent acted his ass off with what he was given. It’s so sad that NOTHING at Marvel Studios is safe and worth watching anymore. We were on the highest high for over 10 years! What the hell happened?!
Politics happened
I need to stop reading comments it’s making me depressed
NEW FAN…. I appreciate how you guys just cut to the chase and don’t hold back. Thanks for saving me LOTS of time trying to watch the series/movies!
Ironically, the series as a whole is like 2.5 hours. This review is almost as long as the show itself lol. You did save yourself 30 min tho lol
You guys should watch "blue eye samurai" if you haven't already. Great writing, great art style, mature, gory and well written characters, including a strong female protagonist done right
That shits 🔥
🗑
Kevin Feige can't touch that...!!
Nah it's well made but she's still a Mary Sue, a fight scene with a small woman taking out 4 killers twice her size says it all.
@@killcat1971how many Mary Sue’s face constant adversity, failure & almost dies multiple times?
18:35 We should call it what it is presented as: female force.
Phoenix Force from the comics is a cosmic entity and not something Echo had innately, but was selected as a potential vessel for.
Though it would be ridiculous if the show writers think having female ancestor swirly palms is the same thing as uncontrollably eating up suns.
The last scene is hilarious you have Kingpin super mad and this chick just magic one clicks him with her people beating drums hahahah xD
I cant believe people got hyped for this just because kingpin showed up on the trailers for 5 seconds
1:02:10 LMAO THEIR FACES SAY IT ALL
This man just said Echo fainted a question mark kick 💀💀💀 no that’s just bad choreography my friend
“It’s really cool to know that she’s really cool elsewhere” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Joe is waaaay too forgiving with Disney and Marvel, honestly. The show was objectively bad, pacing was way off, dialogues were inconsequential and weren't related to each other and action was manufactured in an awful way. Lead actress is no actress, and a couple of sunrays will not make the shadows disappear. Let Alex speak more, his critical mind takes the shows at face value and speaks facts.
Why do you consistently absorb media you loathe and don't align with so much?
Kaspar, we've got a masochist xD
That answers it!
I have to appreciate the representation: a deaf character being written by tone-deaf writers.
Nice one.
I don't even like xmen or this show, but Joe not knowing what the Phoenix force is, is actually insane
Nah its kinda on brand for Joe not knowing wtf he talks about LMAO
How can you not like X-men anyway yeh funny he don’t know
1:02:09 such a great sight to see
As always Alex is the voice of reason balancing common guy's (OJ) and pc AJ . All in all good review.
Told you, "Blue Eye Samurai" would have been time better invested.
It was at timestamp 10:24 that i decided im not going to watch a single episode of echo. Well done disney
WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A KINGPIN SHOW. INSTEAD OF THIS SLOP FEST.
I like how they have to tip toe around that it sucks😂😂😂 They are scared of getting cancelled 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Literally someone from Marvel called it the “M-She” then correct themselves and said “CU” another Freudian slip.
This show had some CW level fighting. It’s really not good at all. I don’t think anything on Disney+ is worth the time it takes to watch it. 🤷🏾♂️✌🏾👍🏾
Well for suprise of zero people the series flopped…
But it was good. People really started hating this show months ago so it never had an honest chance
It didn't flop. It was just okay.
@@spinningbackkick6021 lmao
People who already hated it were never going to see it in the first place, and you overestimate their influence.
@@spinningbackkick6021looks mid
@@Psycorde No I don't that I think they just like to take credit for making an already low rated project doing poorly.
Why did they have to do daredevil like that 😢
they put more effort into the trailer than the actual show
Disney Marvel's quality control is utterly abysmal. So many of their projects seem to be made by amateurs (evidenced by poor writing, poor direction and laughable fight choreography) who have managed to con their way into jobs which need seasoned professionals. Despite the OBVIOUS marketing spin that this was meant to be Daredevil 3.5, this does not have the creative team, and falls far short of that gold standard.
By the way - as a show which sold itself on 'street level realism and grittiness', what the hell is all this cosmic Eternals-style B.S. doing in it? Oh wait, it's Disney Marvel so we need lasers shooting out of every orifice.
Can we finally admit the MSHEU crowd was right all along?
That would take humility and admitting that you were wrong which I don't know if Joe is capable of, particularly after attacking the people saying it for years.
I thought AJ would've learned his lesson after Star Wars and She Hulk but he keeps falling for woke propaganda.
He tries so hard to be a good little progressive ally. 😂 The LGBT browny points aren't worth it Joe, join the right side of history already.
your term MSHEU is total nonsense. That is made up term youtubers who want movies to fail.
No we can't because NORMAL people actually point out the real issues plaguing most of these programs vs anti sjwtards just screeching woke over and over.
@@ribeye5394doesn't matter if some RUclipsrs wanted movies to fail or not. The real question is did they fail? The answer, just look at last year, is yes. So was the argument about MSHEU true? Yes it was. Doesn't if u hate the people that said it. Look at the facts
So far, Loki might be the only Disney plus series that landed an amazing and respectful ending.
I didn’t like season 1 but season 2 was better and ended with respect
@@amarawinchester963skipped season 2 because season 1 was so bad. also seeing a clip of sylvie coming back was just an immediate turnoff and she still acted like an entitled cow. how dare you guys want to eat!
Season sucks ass.
@@amarawinchester963why do people hate on Season 1? I thought it was great… Loki to me is basically Marvel doing Doctor Who better than Doctor Who
@@connorbassett6624Because they destroyed his character and it was all over the place. They build up Kang, just to do him dirty and of course female Loki gets the W. Peak MsheU stuff.
Funny, even Grace has acknowledged the M-SHE-U by now and Joe is still trying to turn a blind eye.
I'D RATHER WATCH THIS FOR 2 HOURS THAN THE ACTUAL SHOW
I know for a fact that watching this whole review was way more entertaining than watching the series would have been 😂
This show was straight trash. Alex hit every point perfectly.
So here is the new deal: Instead of watching a TV show, I watch the review of it and feed on the agony of the reviewers. Question is, is that makes me a sort of vampire?
Any single episode of Daredevil or Agents Of Shield (the best marvel show) is far better than all 5 of these episodes. Its sad
So to clarify what joe was sayig about echo in the comics and the Phoenix force. Essentially the Phoenix force was looking for the most worth host and pitted all mutants andd heroes or the more powerful one against each other in a death battle free for all....kinda. They could kill each other but didint really die. Long story short is echo was the last one standing due to her powers of being able to mimic and adapt in a split second. all heroes and villlains were given a fraction of the Phoenix Force so it could see how its host would use said powers.
It is a more recent comic
Also almost anyone can be a host for the Phoenix. Theres a story were 5 or 6 xmen at the same time get the powers of the Phoenix. Cyclops and Colossus were two of them
In that story i mentioned about echo (COMIC SPOILERS) Thor finds out his real maternal mother is the orignal Pheonix force who was part of the B.C. Avengers that also consisted of Odin, OG Ghost Rider who rides a flamming mammoth, first black panther, agamoto himself (first sorcerer supreme), and the first or i think second iron fist.
Phoenix sees how Odin is just (at the time at least) just a mad blood thirsty conquer who wanted to use her and also gain her powers. If i remember right she almost kills him but spares him cause she loved him and knew she was their childs mother. So she left earth and the B.C Avengers. Odin changed and became more calm but in that story when the Phoenix held that competition he was scared out his mind(didnt show it tho) cause he thought she still would finish the job this time and saw how much more powerful the Phoenix had become. Jean also has a heart to heart with phenoix and when echo gets the powers she enters her mind to tell her she isnt prepared for the consequences, but that if she ever needs to talk or cant make sense of it all she can go to Jean and Jean would protect her. Thats were thhe story ends. Dont think the second issue is out yet.
Echo in the comics isnt incredibly popular but she is a pretty cool character
In the comics tho
I feel for Alex. Has to suck when someone always asks your opinion on things and then always cuts you off and disregards your thoughts because they dont align with their thoughts.
Let Alex cook!!
The fact that they did Daredevil so dirty upsets me. Daredevil deserved better.
Except he wasn’t done dirty.
Very much so
Done dirty how? He didnt lose the fight, and it was the very definition of a cameo.
@@husker4life109the fact that Echo gave him a run for his money is laughable.. no way this version of Echo is going toe-to-toe with DD
Facts.. the fact that he had to drop a shelf on her in order to get away is ridiculous..
Probably was the main reason they dropped all the episodes at once as they new it was a dumpster fire 🔥
Not really a dumpster fire.
The fact that literally, **literally** all the reviews as soon as the embargo was lifted were:
"God, the representation is so good"
Was... very telling. Nothing about the writing, nothing about the plot and pacing, nothing about the story. Literally the biggest thing it had going for it was the fact that an indigenous person was on the screen.
That cut to episode 4 and 5 was hilarious
Alex turned hunchback and Joe facepalm realizing he was too optimistic again 😂 so funny
Lmao