No shame there. Just bent,welded metal tubing. After all, you trust them with pretty much every piece of precision electronic equipment you could possibly own and then some. Nobody seems to have issue with that.
@@CaliMotoTV FREE OHLINS FORK!!! - now that i got your attention in notification, can you please just answer here to this comment, is it holding okay? What is your experience with it? I have resh M1000R and hate the factory gazilion catalyst converters sound - it comes from factory with Akrapovic WITHOUT db killer, which says everything :D (and im in EU...)
Looks neat! I love the sectioned pipes too. Not all Chinese stuff is crap. Stuff from there costs less because the build cost is less, because they pay the workers pennies and there's no Health and Safety standards. A buddy of mine owned Armour Bodies (the best race bodywork anywhere, in my opinion). He moved his entire manufacturing operations there to save money. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's not good.
Are you using the ol wipe down trick before each ride to get that beautiful blue we all love to pop out fast? The yellowish brown color hangs around to long for my liking so I had to try it and was shocked how good it worked! I DIG THE PIE CUTS ALSO AND MY AKRAPOVIC HEADERS DONT HAVE THEM SO IM JEALOUS!
0:55 looks nice dose it glow red? I think the titanium is retaining more heat than steel or stainless it has 1/4 the heat transfer of steel but maybe less heat dissipation in free air meaning the pipe will get hot ( but ) the cylinder head is not as hot as it seems tho and bike might still be ok! but still hotter I think that's how it works??? heat transfer rate of metal on metal vs free air dissipation rate in free air?
Hey brother I have the 2020 BMW s1000 RR and I am interested in the Chinese headers that you bought how is the current review and are you happy with them ?
I bought a set of these further to your video, ( fantastic quality) just had them fitted to my 2022 s1000r by bmw main agent where I bought the bike, they left the servo motor on the bike, removed the cables & told me no need for a servo buddy or tune. 😁happy days. 👊✊️✊️
Great vid mate 👍🏾👌🏼. I was looking at these. Love the look of the welds. Going to put stock tail for track day and I've got a stubby for road 👍🏼. As we have silly noise limits on track in UK..
@Cali Moto Tv Have you checked the junction on the head conectors for leaking ?? I install mine and it leaks , los like it’s needed to move the exhaust from the slip on up or down until you find the better spot to avoid leaks but still leaks a little though….. yours leaks ?? Or you put something to seal ??
@@CaliMotoTV hey bud, bit of a weird question, were the pie cut welds on the inside nice and neat like the outside? Was there a exhaust servo delete included? Was all hardware supplies to reinstall the stock 4x O2 sensors?
just got mine installed on my 2020 S1000RR M. looks amazing. using it with a real Akra GP slip on. think it was $677 shipped. no reason to buy expensive pipes from what I can tell. Note, you can also remove the stock exhaust vibration damper that mounts up to the stock cat. that part is useless and saves a little weight and cleans it up a bit.
Leo Vinci is on the low end to begin with but good product. Yosh doesn’t have anything? The reason why the header is so cheap it’s not a single tube of titanium formed to make each header. Thus the exhaust flow is not impeded, the further down the pipe the less it matters. Did you add a second to your lap times? Doubt it. You think outside the box, try stuff, that’s what’s cool about your channel.
It's hard to believe you have a full system on your bike it's seems so quiet!! Is the leovince slip-on euro5? Hard to believe being so short and open but would expect it to be super loud
@@CaliMotoTV the single R is a detuned version of the RR motor. It also has diff internals ie larger bore, diff cams, valves. As a result it produces a different exhaust note. And titanium is stronger than stainless steel so it changes the sound of the exhaust pulse sounds flowing thru the header/ mid pipe. ECU Tuning will make a bike louder also
Good day, I have some doubts. I hope you can help me before purchasing this full system. I wanted to know if it fits well with the head if it doesn't have one. exhaust fires. and if he turned on any witness like the check I hope you can support me because if I would like to acquire
I have arrow steel headers but I want titanium HEADERS. I think I will look into the Chinese titanium headers. My boy has a brand new spark titanium headers for sale 500$ from Italy. Which one you think I should go with ?
@@CaliMotoTV Well actually I agree but for example the engine on my RS660 didn't last for long. The crank got demolished at 870km. Luckily after it happened I got an e-mail for a technical recall but if it wouldn't be the case then even crashpads installed on my own would turn the warranty into shit. That's why I was wondering if you have any "tricks" for it ;) Cheers!
Thank you for posting. I normally have two concerns when considering the purchase of a Chinese product not made to the spec of a well established company. 1. Are they designing the product from the ground up or are they reverse engineering an existing product where the original company spent $$$ developing and troubleshooting it? 2. Often (not always) when it is a knock-off you have to wonder about the quality of the product. I will be interested to see how well your exhaust ages. On the other side, to me the exhausts available for the R and RR are crazy expensive. It is like we see BMW, and the aftermarket sees $$$. Just my $0.02 worth. ymmv. I do have a question after all my gibberish. Because of the new exhaust, did Brentunning have to develop a custom ecu flash for the bike?
Bike is tuned with Brentune, no custom tune needed. Euro bike tax is pretty hefty. We usually try to support the companies that spend the time to R&D but couldn't resist to check this out this time around 😂
@@CaliMotoTV Like stated earlier, I will like to know how it holds up over time. If it is all good, I might be tempted and I wasn't even considering replacing the header on my bike because of cost. I sure hope my wife never meets you. :)
I agree the headers are too expensive and over price , i am currently in this dilemma- shall i buy original headers or Chinese but for sure i am not going to pay 3300$ for full system on my s1000 rr
Hey, I checked the link in the description and it just takes me to a generic search for s1000rr pipes.. do you have a direct link to these headers? Thanks for all the content, it has been instrumental in my decision to buy a 2022 S1000RR!
Hi everyone I Had the same Headers installed on my 2021 s1000rr After 500 miles I realize it is Rubbing against Oil pan I decided not to take my chances and swap them with arrow Stainless steel That has exactly the same bracket as OEM Which I really like
Materials are cheaper in China too. the Akra is made in a small country Slovenia, many probably never even heard of, the titanium they used is probably supplied by China anyway. Just think this way, China has spaceships, 5gen fighters, ballistic missiles and you think they cant do better welding some pipes together than a small country lots people dont even know exist?
I have been curious about those Chinese headers I've seen on ebay. Looks great. That said, you really need to ditch the Leo Vince exhaust. It has an internal dB killer, that you can't remove. A real power killer.
@Cali Moto TV no man, many of these pipes come with Euro 5 specs. Be careful; many aren't as straight through as you think. I bet your sc project pipe on your R is noticeably louder over your Leo Vince
How is this header holding up ?
Hey bro how are the exhaust holding up after a year?
Did you get a tune for it after install?
Bill can you give an update on the product, lot of folks following this Closely.
No shame there. Just bent,welded metal tubing. After all, you trust them with pretty much every piece of precision electronic equipment you could possibly own and then some. Nobody seems to have issue with that.
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This is so true!!
@@CaliMotoTV FREE OHLINS FORK!!! - now that i got your attention in notification, can you please just answer here to this comment, is it holding okay? What is your experience with it? I have resh M1000R and hate the factory gazilion catalyst converters sound - it comes from factory with Akrapovic WITHOUT db killer, which says everything :D (and im in EU...)
Looks neat! I love the sectioned pipes too. Not all Chinese stuff is crap. Stuff from there costs less because the build cost is less, because they pay the workers pennies and there's no Health and Safety standards. A buddy of mine owned Armour Bodies (the best race bodywork anywhere, in my opinion). He moved his entire manufacturing operations there to save money. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's not good.
Yup! Just gotta be smart about it.
Awesome!!! Having dialogue with us, at 120.
Why I love you Bill!!
Great video
which seller did you buy from?
I have a 2022 with 10 miles on it and after watching your videos I want this. You got me spending more money hahaha
Sorry 🙏 🤣
Do u recommend this or m4 headers?
This headers fits m1000R?
The exhaust was probably laser welded, much faster and efficient, nice Rizoma mirrors
👍
Are you using the ol wipe down trick before each ride to get that beautiful blue we all love to pop out fast? The yellowish brown color hangs around to long for my liking so I had to try it and was shocked how good it worked! I DIG THE PIE CUTS ALSO AND MY AKRAPOVIC HEADERS DONT HAVE THEM SO IM JEALOUS!
Don't use the wipe down trick. It blued really fast.
I'm glad you saved your self some money the exhaust looks good
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0:55 looks nice dose it glow red? I think the titanium is retaining more heat than steel or stainless it has 1/4 the heat transfer of steel but maybe less heat dissipation in free air meaning the pipe will get hot ( but ) the cylinder head is not as hot as it seems tho and bike might still be ok! but still hotter I think that's how it works??? heat transfer rate of metal on metal vs free air dissipation rate in free air?
Hey brother I have the 2020 BMW s1000 RR and I am interested in the Chinese headers that you bought how is the current review and are you happy with them ?
Yep still happy
how are they after 2 years?
How is it holding up?
Still digging these? I've been considering ordering a set.
Yep
What brand muffler/silenceer also fits to these headers?
I bought a set of these further to your video, ( fantastic quality) just had them fitted to my 2022 s1000r by bmw main agent where I bought the bike, they left the servo motor on the bike, removed the cables & told me no need for a servo buddy or tune. 😁happy days. 👊✊️✊️
Zoom zoom zoom! Ride safe!
Hello halifax, you bought this chinese s1000rr headers and fitted to the s1000r 2022? And fits well? The exhaust of the RR is the same of the R?
@mrste1250 can you please share the seller you bought the exhaust from?
Just wondering if you have an update on the headers, still worth it?
Hey man just picked up my 24 Thursday, do you have a link by any chance to the one you bought? Would feel more confident buying the one you got lol
Hey!!! I just realized where you are! I used to take that road to work on my yamaha bolt!!
Cool!
I just recently got my 2022 s1000rr m package and I like to go with your eBay headers. I wonder after installing do u have to tune the bike or not?
Yeah you should always tune a bike with a full system
@cali moto tv how's the long-term review on these headers? I'm currently looking at these.
Did you end up buying them ?
Yes mate have had them fitted for about 12000kms with zero issues no tune sounds great def recommend if you don’t have a budget for named brands
@@codenamebred1882 thank you for response you have a link by chance ?
Sorry no I don’t but I did buy it off Ali express and legit found the cheapest one on sale was about $700 aud delivered
Great vid mate 👍🏾👌🏼.
I was looking at these. Love the look of the welds. Going to put stock tail for track day and I've got a stubby for road 👍🏼. As we have silly noise limits on track in UK..
Makes sense. Ride safe.
Could you please post the link, & would it fit my 2022 s1000r?? Thanks bill
It's in the description
Well how are they holding up?
Hello bud, so how does it hold 3 months after? Thanks.
Still rocking rolling
@Cali Moto Tv Have you checked the junction on the head conectors for leaking ?? I install mine and it leaks , los like it’s needed to move the exhaust from the slip on up or down until you find the better spot to avoid leaks but still leaks a little though….. yours leaks ?? Or you put something to seal ??
Is the sound the same as the akra?
That bike is turning into a beast
😈 😈 😈
Hey brother!
Can you post a link for this exact headers?
Great vid. Did you get a new tune file from BT?
No new tune file needed, self learning/adjusting.
it screams because it has the arrow exhaust, i have arrow on my s1000 love it
Is the system able to take a stock rear muffler or one of the off the shelf Akrapovic slip ons?
Yup
@@CaliMotoTV hey bud, bit of a weird question, were the pie cut welds on the inside nice and neat like the outside? Was there a exhaust servo delete included? Was all hardware supplies to reinstall the stock 4x O2 sensors?
Is the sound the same vs akravopic headers?
just got mine installed on my 2020 S1000RR M. looks amazing. using it with a real Akra GP slip on. think it was $677 shipped. no reason to buy expensive pipes from what I can tell. Note, you can also remove the stock exhaust vibration damper that mounts up to the stock cat. that part is useless and saves a little weight and cleans it up a bit.
Do u think the sound are the same with akravopic?
@Jose ph yeah I don't know why it would be different. The pipes have little to do with the note from the exhaust
Which one did you got?
@@haroldlouis4004 same titainium with the pie cut. Looks great!!
how does it hold up?
Bill, what’s the benefits of a titanium header over stainless, besides the price?
Weight and the visual of the blue'ing
The amount of bikes you have I’m surprised you haven’t done this for all of them. You have not cheaped out here… the bike itself is money.
We'll see how this one works 😂
What anout sound wise?
I'm having problems with the flanges . Is there an specific order ? Cylinder number two spring is too loose
Flip the flange around. Watch the video we try to explain that bit.
@@CaliMotoTV I tried doing that but then the spring was on the way of the nut . I bought a smaller spring to fix it
@@CaliMotoTV I watched it again . What did i miss ? Lol
@@Socaloverlanderdid all other than that work for you
Did it come in the same weird akra size of 65mm?
How much was the customs charge for the item since it came from China?
Leo Vinci is on the low end to begin with but good product. Yosh doesn’t have anything? The reason why the header is so cheap it’s not a single tube of titanium formed to make each header. Thus the exhaust flow is not impeded, the further down the pipe the less it matters. Did you add a second to your lap times? Doubt it. You think outside the box, try stuff, that’s what’s cool about your channel.
LV is great bang for you buck, we like it a lot better than some other products we've tried recently. The headers were for sure an experimental lol
So no standing sound test????
How is it now any issues?
Nope
@@CaliMotoTVupdate?
Can you post a link to the Chinese
exhaust manufacturer please
Link is in the description of the video
@@CaliMotoTV Thanks, what about warranty was there an issue with changing the exhaust and did you have to flash the ECU?
that thing needs a see through clutch cover!!
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It's hard to believe you have a full system on your bike it's seems so quiet!! Is the leovince slip-on euro5? Hard to believe being so short and open but would expect it to be super loud
It is super loud obviously, the mic is well hidden
The bike is definitely quieter than the S1000R. Not sure why, we're guessing it's due to the cam shift tech? 🤔
@@CaliMotoTV the single R is a detuned version of the RR motor. It also has diff internals ie larger bore, diff cams, valves. As a result it produces a different exhaust note. And titanium is stronger than stainless steel so it changes the sound of the exhaust pulse sounds flowing thru the header/ mid pipe. ECU Tuning will make a bike louder also
You would be surprised how many motorcycle parts from big company's come from China.
Yuuuup.
What'd up my dude! Will this direct fit the R as well?
Yes sir.
I like Street Vlogging, Bike is beautiful!!
Thanks for riding along!
Which is the seller did you buy from Ali Express?
Good day, I have some doubts. I hope you can help me before purchasing this full system. I wanted to know if it fits well with the head if it doesn't have one. exhaust fires. and if he turned on any witness like the check I hope you can support me because if I would like to acquire
or someone help me with this doubt
It fits well.
Did y ever buy how it go
I have arrow steel headers but I want titanium HEADERS. I think I will look into the Chinese titanium headers. My boy has a brand new spark titanium headers for sale 500$ from Italy. Which one you think I should go with ?
Whichever your heart desires.
Hey Joka S1k11, did you buy the Spark's headers or is it still for sale? If so I'm interested.... :)
Thanks man !
Awesome roads and nice vid
Wow, pulled off a good buy. Hopefully the header's long term quality is good.
Time will tell!
Bill what about the warranty of all the new bikes you are "tuning"? Are you anyhow concerned of losing the warranty?
Warranties aren't worth the paper they're written on.
@@CaliMotoTV Well actually I agree but for example the engine on my RS660 didn't last for long. The crank got demolished at 870km. Luckily after it happened I got an e-mail for a technical recall but if it wouldn't be the case then even crashpads installed on my own would turn the warranty into shit. That's why I was wondering if you have any "tricks" for it ;) Cheers!
Wicht company you have by on ali ? Send me compleet link please ,
Just ordered mine . Forgot to send you my shopping list . Damn it . Came out to $710
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Thank you for posting. I normally have two concerns when considering the purchase of a Chinese product not made to the spec of a well established company. 1. Are they designing the product from the ground up or are they reverse engineering an existing product where the original company spent $$$ developing and troubleshooting it? 2. Often (not always) when it is a knock-off you have to wonder about the quality of the product. I will be interested to see how well your exhaust ages. On the other side, to me the exhausts available for the R and RR are crazy expensive. It is like we see BMW, and the aftermarket sees $$$. Just my $0.02 worth. ymmv. I do have a question after all my gibberish. Because of the new exhaust, did Brentunning have to develop a custom ecu flash for the bike?
Little did I know how crazy Ducati tax was after buying a Panigale. The cheapest quality slip-on is $1500... also curious how his header holds up.
Brentune flash is full time closed loop on the BMW. The bike fully tunes itself no need for "custom" tune
@@NexusVibee thx for the answer.
Bike is tuned with Brentune, no custom tune needed. Euro bike tax is pretty hefty. We usually try to support the companies that spend the time to R&D but couldn't resist to check this out this time around 😂
@@CaliMotoTV Like stated earlier, I will like to know how it holds up over time. If it is all good, I might be tempted and I wasn't even considering replacing the header on my bike because of cost. I sure hope my wife never meets you. :)
Can you give the link to the website where you got the header. Just bought a 2022 rr and looking for an exhaust
Links in the description
Are the 2020 model headers the same for 2022 I’m not seeing nothing on the site for 2022
Yes they are the same
@@CaliMotoTV you are the man thanks for the fast reply I gonna subscribe for sure
Everyone loves a bargain. Tuning. Did it require tuning?
We have Brentune. We do recommend a tune if you're running a full system. You'll at least need a servo buddy or there will be a CEL.
I agree the headers are too expensive and over price , i am currently in this dilemma- shall i buy original headers or Chinese but for sure i am not going to pay 3300$ for full system on my s1000 rr
Relatable problem haha.
Hey, I checked the link in the description and it just takes me to a generic search for s1000rr pipes.. do you have a direct link to these headers?
Thanks for all the content, it has been instrumental in my decision to buy a 2022 S1000RR!
Nice bike and exhaust, Chinese Mirrors as well? I bought some for my H2 from China.
No those are the rizoma mirrors.
How has the ebay titanium header held up on the 2022 s1000rr so far or have you already replaced it?
1500 miles and looking amazing... Holding up just fine
I tried using that site but is not in English I can’t understand a word in it
I bought the same set up from eBay. I have a question are the Chinese header thinner in width from the name brand ones ?
How was the fit on yours
How are they 1 year later ?
@@Teggy04 don’t know I crashed the bike a year ago
Hi everyone
I Had the same Headers installed on my 2021 s1000rr
After 500 miles I realize it is Rubbing against Oil pan
I decided not to take my chances and swap them with arrow Stainless steel That has exactly the same bracket as OEM Which I really like
Probably didn't line it up right
Not sparing the horses there Bill ! I see Bogna was well wrapped up, how does she like the single R ? 🇬🇧🏍
She likes it a lot!
Hey Bill👋🏻 the exhaust header looking good. What’s the name of the brand ? I will check it out at the Ali Express for my bike🧐🤓
Link is in the description!
@@CaliMotoTV The link decription takes you to a search result and not a specific vendor.
Materials are cheaper in China too. the Akra is made in a small country Slovenia, many probably never even heard of, the titanium they used is probably supplied by China anyway.
Just think this way, China has spaceships, 5gen fighters, ballistic missiles and you think they cant do better welding some pipes together than a small country lots people dont even know exist?
Impressive! Dyno’d?
No sorry
Link is broken... Do you have an updated link for us?
Link works just fine. Try again.
@@CaliMotoTV Still pulls a 404. Page not found.
@@CaliMotoTV not working
@@chrisphillips2358 bit.ly/3e5MMhC
@@CaliMotoTV thanks dude, but all I get is 404. Do you have the full link?
I bought the same header on AliExpress 😊
How’s it holding so far
How they coming along ?
still going good 11 months later???
@Calimoto
So you bought the Chinese header as an experiment and then you liked it? Or did I misunderstood the video, hmm..
Yup. You got it.
Its not cheaping out its being money smart lmao
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So how are those headers keeping on? I am about to purchase from china lol
Did you end up buying them ?
@@Teggy04 yes . Looks great!
@@LoveBikesDorel send me the link?👀
I have been curious about those Chinese headers I've seen on ebay. Looks great.
That said, you really need to ditch the Leo Vince exhaust. It has an internal dB killer, that you can't remove. A real power killer.
Wide open there's no internal db killer that's nonsense.
@Cali Moto TV no man, many of these pipes come with Euro 5 specs. Be careful; many aren't as straight through as you think.
I bet your sc project pipe on your R is noticeably louder over your Leo Vince
Akra Ti header is like $1400
Welp... half price headers sound good to me.
Haha new video.
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Sad to read the title of one my fav channel.
Lol what's the problem?
@Sangkar M Lighten up Francis
Lmao right? 🤔 😅 🤣
billy u are cheap man i dont agree with low qualiity stuff better u have less stuff but atleast quallity ......
Can you share me the link of those headers ? Because the link you have its just a search results. Please 🫶