This is basically how I learnt photography and found the genres I most enjoy by watching and learning from other people. I can't always go to amazing places but I return to local areas regularly throughout the year, its always changing & challenging. While using the lessons I've learnt. Hoping to go to Scotland again soon.
An excellent presentation, discovered you by chance but I concur completely. I find the same process works really well with me, I don’t want to copy but having been inspired by another person’s work gives me a kick up the pants, gets me out and gets me travelling to those locations and THEN, I start exploring further and look more intently for my own “take” on the location. Nice video, thanks 😊.
Inspiration comes in all shapes and forms, and no matter your skill level, it’s important to be open to all possibilities if you’re serious about progressing your art. Such a simple message well put.
Fabulous thought process and so similar to the philosophy I use in my photography ..... picturing the shot before you go and take it! And the additional bonus in being in my beautiful homeland of Scotland. Great work Jonny .... now off to watch some more of your videos to get more inspiration.
I like your philosophical approach to a vlog. I always head to a honeypot location when I'm in an unfamiliar area. Like you, I often find something of my own along the way. Subscribed ▶️
Beautiful scenery and images and great advice. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery after all. It’s a great way to allow the minds eye to discover the image within a scene. I really like the comp with “busy” foreground @6:10 and with conditions popping on the mountain and sky it will make a really great image. Great video Jonny 🤙
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I really enjoyed your thought process of using an inspiring photo to encourage yourself to get out and create your own image. As you said, the idea isn't to copy, it's to analyse and explore. Look forward to seeing more of your videos in the future, cheers Nico
Your channel came up as a recommendation, seeing the "Buckle" as some call it I was immediately drawn to the video. Nice presentation & thought process of scouting out an image. I spend a fair bit of time in Hay (a short drive from me) so was jealous of you picking up that book, lol. I have known John for many years as a photographer through social media & bought his book "Scotlands 50 finest mountains" when he released it - I have a signed copy. Incidentally his take on the same shot is very similar but not identical in the book. atb Al
@@JonnyKeeleyPhoto I was in Hay yesterday but it was a brief visit. I did pick up a couple of books though... by Dr Oliver Rackham to add to my little collection of his work. If you like ancient woodland keep an eye open for him. atb Al
Nothing wrong with shooting the classics that’s why they’re called that in the first place, and you’re right Jonny it’s only a guide and to coin a climbing term if you’ve found a 5c you could find a varying finish that’s a 6a, a more challenging image.
I'm glad i wasn't the only one up there trying to get a nice photo in flat grey light :) Don't forget to accidently step in some boggy parts to get the full experience 😅
The persn who taught me how to shoot told me it's ok to copy someone to learn how they did it. Break each piece down. The next step is to figure out why you like it and add your own spin.
I understand your way of thinking but disagree strongly with it. This kind of photography is lazy. I am quite early in my photography journey, only three years since I became obsessive about it. I to visited Scotland last year and this very spot. Because I never look at other peoples images especially competition winners. I saw this with my own eyes and perspective. I was a climber, and climbed extensively in the uk. I was talking to Eric Jones one day and said. " I am fed up, all the best routes have been taken, there's nothing left to first accent on these days" He said, " See that guide book, just throw it away. Now get on with it. You will of course repeat what others have done but now as far as you are concerned they are originals.
Your method could be more lazy in a way. You get to feel like you are unike right away, but you miss learning from those greater than you. You miss the learning from the masters experience. So it depends what you want. Instant gratification or true creativity. I think most will agree that real creativeness includes «standing on the shoulder of giants» to not just repeat what has been done a thousand times before. Ignorance is a bliss, right. I do both, so I am just reflecting, not moralizing ;-)
@@geirnordheim6986 Those greater than me? How is that possible if I am taking truly original photos for myself? You are not standing on the shoulders of giants merely copying. There is little or no skill or creativeness in this at all. It really depends on who you are taking the photo for. If it's for your self then surely being ignorant of other version is not a issue, as with my climbing. You are climbing unguided, creating the route as you see it. The method you were talking about is all about instant gratification surely? Literally anyone with a camera could have done what you did, and end up with a beautiful image instantly? I on the other hand approached this area with an open mind and took from it some very nice images which were originals. That to me is creativity. Lastly I am inspired by the subject or vista in front me not other photographers. If you need to see other peoples visions to inspire you then personally I think your missing the point of photography.
You never look at other peoples photos? Yet here you are watching a RUclips channel of a photographer, looking at their work. So clearly that’s not the case. The point of this video is it’s okay to take inspiration from a source, whatever that maybe, and then find your own path from that inspiration. The end result may not be a similar image, but a technique you learn as a result. Don’t be so closed minded to the endless possibilities that this artform can present.
@@captinktm That was my point; Of course I believe I am taking truly original photos if I don`t want to compare with or learn from others. Chances are I am mediocre or bad, but I wouldn´t know. It is called ignorance. I am a climber too based in Norway, and I do not understand the need to feel unike but knowing that I am probably mediocre. Why not use what is unike to us humans in the first place; the abiliti to learn from others, improve on that and pass the knowledge on to others again. I think that is far more creative than just rediscover basic stuff that has been discovered a hundred years before and is known to everyone but your self. But as I said. I do both, but then I don´t actually belive that I take truly original photos or that I am a truly unike climber.
@@geirnordheim6986 If you have never been to a rock face before and you don't use a guide book then you are first accenting, you are creating an original route. This is the best and for me the only way to climb. Following other peoples routes and moves does nothing for me. The same with photography, I travel and arrive at places that catch the eye, or that look interesting on a map. Then I just get on with it. This on many occasions has produced some very nice original images. Often people on here and FB ask for my settings but I always give them the same answer "they are not relevant to you, you weren't there and will never be there at the same time. I am self taught, never been on a workshop or any kind of course. I go my own way, then there is only one person to blame if the results are not what I want. I feel sad for you if you don't think you ever take unique, original photos. I have just been out this evening and taken just that.
Like your thought process here Jonny. Don't copy great images but let them inspire you to create your own. Subscribed.
This is basically how I learnt photography and found the genres I most enjoy by watching and learning from other people. I can't always go to amazing places but I return to local areas regularly throughout the year, its always changing & challenging. While using the lessons I've learnt. Hoping to go to Scotland again soon.
It’s a great way to learn!
An excellent presentation, discovered you by chance but I concur completely. I find the same process works really well with me, I don’t want to copy but having been inspired by another person’s work gives me a kick up the pants, gets me out and gets me travelling to those locations and THEN, I start exploring further and look more intently for my own “take” on the location. Nice video, thanks 😊.
Like I said, if it gets you out the door it’s enough! Thanks for watching 🙏
Lots of love for this. Well done for distilling an etheral idea into real and relatable terms.
Thanks so much mate
Inspiration comes in all shapes and forms, and no matter your skill level, it’s important to be open to all possibilities if you’re serious about progressing your art. Such a simple message well put.
Thank you 🙏
Fabulous thought process and so similar to the philosophy I use in my photography ..... picturing the shot before you go and take it! And the additional bonus in being in my beautiful homeland of Scotland. Great work Jonny .... now off to watch some more of your videos to get more inspiration.
Thanks so much mate, if Scotland is your doorstep I'm very jealous!
I like your philosophical approach to a vlog. I always head to a honeypot location when I'm in an unfamiliar area. Like you, I often find something of my own along the way. Subscribed ▶️
I appreciate it!
I'm a concert photographer and it would be to get some more concert opportunities lol
This was such an important message. I will use it with my work where I feel the need of it.
Thank you Jonny for creating such beautiful art❤
Thanks for watching l!
Thanks for sharing, love the thought process you laid out so clearly in this video!
Thank you again!
Great video and advise. Now time for me to get out there and get creative!
Thanks, enjoy!
Thanks for that Jon. Your images and mindset are just as inspiring as John's. Look forward to the next
Thanks mate that’s very kind, the next video is a big one for me. I can’t wait to share it.
Beautiful scenery and images and great advice.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery after all.
It’s a great way to allow the minds eye to discover the image within a scene.
I really like the comp with “busy” foreground @6:10 and with conditions popping on the mountain and sky it will make a really great image.
Great video Jonny 🤙
Yeah one day I’ll go back for that, it can get predictably snowy here so I might try and get that.
Nice video. Thank you for sharing. 👍183
Thank you 🙏
Great video! Love the philosophic and "down to earth" approach on your videos!
Thanks loads mate
Really enjoyed this one, what a fantastic spot...thanks for the inspiration.
Thank you Jason.
Well said i like this video, i have an image in edition 12 i think, and i have lots of Landscape books and all are full of inspiration.
Ah nice, I’ll keep my eyes open for that one.
Great to see you back Johnny! Sweet video with some good advice.
Thank you
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I really enjoyed your thought process of using an inspiring photo to encourage yourself to get out and create your own image. As you said, the idea isn't to copy, it's to analyse and explore. Look forward to seeing more of your videos in the future, cheers Nico
Thank you 🙏
So concise and to the point. Well done!
Thank you 🙏
I just love ur videos and your mindset. Keep it up! Hope to see your picture in that book in the future ;)
Thanks so much mate
Cool Video, liked what you had to say, I too want a picture worthy of my wall. It will come .
Thank you
Your channel came up as a recommendation, seeing the "Buckle" as some call it I was immediately drawn to the video. Nice presentation & thought process of scouting out an image. I spend a fair bit of time in Hay (a short drive from me) so was jealous of you picking up that book, lol. I have known John for many years as a photographer through social media & bought his book "Scotlands 50 finest mountains" when he released it - I have a signed copy. Incidentally his take on the same shot is very similar but not identical in the book. atb Al
Ha in my memory there’s 2 more left in the book shop, but the race is on as I’m heading back soon.
@@JonnyKeeleyPhoto I was in Hay yesterday but it was a brief visit. I did pick up a couple of books though... by Dr Oliver Rackham to add to my little collection of his work. If you like ancient woodland keep an eye open for him. atb Al
The Buchaille overlooks Rannoch Moor which is a flood plain so that area of water might be the same spot, just hasn't filled out
Definitely possible, that book is 10 years old I think
Great video Jonny.
Thanks mate
Nice come back mate (:
Thanks mate
Nothing wrong with shooting the classics that’s why they’re called that in the first place, and you’re right Jonny it’s only a guide and to coin a climbing term if you’ve found a 5c you could find a varying finish that’s a 6a, a more challenging image.
One day maybe I’ll know what that means! :)
@@JonnyKeeleyPhoto they’re just grades of how technical it is.👍
I'm glad i wasn't the only one up there trying to get a nice photo in flat grey light :)
Don't forget to accidently step in some boggy parts to get the full experience 😅
1 in 10 is knee deep too :)
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The persn who taught me how to shoot told me it's ok to copy someone to learn how they did it. Break each piece down. The next step is to figure out why you like it and add your own spin.
I feel this 100%
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I understand your way of thinking but disagree strongly with it. This kind of photography is lazy. I am quite early in my photography journey, only three years since I became obsessive about it. I to visited Scotland last year and this very spot. Because I never look at other peoples images especially competition winners. I saw this with my own eyes and perspective. I was a climber, and climbed extensively in the uk. I was talking to Eric Jones one day and said. " I am fed up, all the best routes have been taken, there's nothing left to first accent on these days" He said, " See that guide book, just throw it away. Now get on with it. You will of course repeat what others have done but now as far as you are concerned they are originals.
Your method could be more lazy in a way. You get to feel like you are unike right away, but you miss learning from those greater than you. You miss the learning from the masters experience. So it depends what you want. Instant gratification or true creativity. I think most will agree that real creativeness includes «standing on the shoulder of giants» to not just repeat what has been done a thousand times before. Ignorance is a bliss, right. I do both, so I am just reflecting, not moralizing ;-)
@@geirnordheim6986 Those greater than me? How is that possible if I am taking truly original photos for myself? You are not standing on the shoulders of giants merely copying. There is little or no skill or creativeness in this at all. It really depends on who you are taking the photo for. If it's for your self then surely being ignorant of other version is not a issue, as with my climbing. You are climbing unguided, creating the route as you see it. The method you were talking about is all about instant gratification surely? Literally anyone with a camera could have done what you did, and end up with a beautiful image instantly? I on the other hand approached this area with an open mind and took from it some very nice images which were originals. That to me is creativity. Lastly I am inspired by the subject or vista in front me not other photographers. If you need to see other peoples visions to inspire you then personally I think your missing the point of photography.
You never look at other peoples photos? Yet here you are watching a RUclips channel of a photographer, looking at their work. So clearly that’s not the case. The point of this video is it’s okay to take inspiration from a source, whatever that maybe, and then find your own path from that inspiration. The end result may not be a similar image, but a technique you learn as a result. Don’t be so closed minded to the endless possibilities that this artform can present.
@@captinktm That was my point; Of course I believe I am taking truly original photos if I don`t want to compare with or learn from others. Chances are I am mediocre or bad, but I wouldn´t know. It is called ignorance. I am a climber too based in Norway, and I do not understand the need to feel unike but knowing that I am probably mediocre. Why not use what is unike to us humans in the first place; the abiliti to learn from others, improve on that and pass the knowledge on to others again. I think that is far more creative than just rediscover basic stuff that has been discovered a hundred years before and is known to everyone but your self. But as I said. I do both, but then I don´t actually belive that I take truly original photos or that I am a truly unike climber.
@@geirnordheim6986 If you have never been to a rock face before and you don't use a guide book then you are first accenting, you are creating an original route. This is the best and for me the only way to climb. Following other peoples routes and moves does nothing for me. The same with photography, I travel and arrive at places that catch the eye, or that look interesting on a map. Then I just get on with it. This on many occasions has produced some very nice original images. Often people on here and FB ask for my settings but I always give them the same answer "they are not relevant to you, you weren't there and will never be there at the same time. I am self taught, never been on a workshop or any kind of course. I go my own way, then there is only one person to blame if the results are not what I want. I feel sad for you if you don't think you ever take unique, original photos. I have just been out this evening and taken just that.