I’m 42 always been a truck guy. 2023 broke down bought a brand new Wrx limited world rally blue. Bought bronze rims for it, upgraded a bunch of stuff aesthetically and performance based. Took it had it tuned to roughly 350 to the wheel hp. I’m absolutely in love with the car. Oh 6 speed manual transmission of course.
Nice mate! I had planned to get one but ended up driving the BRZ and Type R and bought them both haha... couldn't go past the driving feel of the BRZ and the quality of the Type R compared to the WRX.. I'm not a massive fan of the looks of the current WRX anyway, but will keep an eye out for a potential STI if they go that way.
I'm 42 also. 2 weeks ago, I traded in my 22 Crosstrek for a 22 WRX. I installed a sport grille, front brace bar, STI wing, and Remark axle back exhaust. It's so much fun , I love it. It puts a smile on my face when Im driving.
A great video. I'm so happy I own my world rally blue STI. I upgraded from My 2017 WRX and bought the 2020 low miles Bluebaru STI. I can't believe Subaru won't make another STI, oh well, I'm enjoying my STI and I'm never selling it. Great content 👌. Good to see you back in a subie. Oh yeahhhh.
I do feel that reduced aftermarket parts sales are in part with current economic situations and shift in the market itself. We all had buzz and fun back in early 2000s because that was the cool thing to do, and there were ton of sports cars / sporty cars available. There were ton of market share, and everyone thought that this trend will last forever. After 2008, and fast forward 20 years, we face potential demise of ICE cars and the market being dominated by the SUVs and CUVs. Aside from manufacturers continuously refining and getting better at releasing products that are decent at stock level, the general consensus for most demographic who went through the early 2000s will want to preserve their cars as much as possible. Aftermarket parts, especially performance enhancing parts would decline. The rise of "parts that will make your car last longer" RUclips videos kinda sorta reflects the mindset of current generation who has enough income to buy performance cars IMO. Let's face it. After few years, there won't be cars as we remember and love. Wouldn't your priority be on how to make this car so that you can keep as long as possible? Consumers are forced to make 'smart' choices and that is leading towards reduced interest in aftermarket. If economy is booming and companies are coming up with all kinds of sports cars, and promises more in near future, hell, I would love to build my FA 20 to hit 480 hp and do STi tranny swaps and everything. But I would rather not. I would rather see this last 200k - 300k miles.
This video really resonated with me. Especially the depreciation of parts and supplies for the older WRX/STis. Last year, I was lucky enough to nab one from a private dealer in Arizona; 04 STi with about 80k miles on it. All original OEM stuff and bits. I, somewhat, feel late to the party as a lot of people moved on to more conventional EVs, or more practical used vehicles simply to get from point A to point B. Although, there still is a plethora of parts available as far as upgrades, there also is the slow decline in quality parts mostly due to the overseas copying/manufacturing of cheap parts. The third-party manufacturers that actually make quality parts are dwindling. Mostly due to the cheap overseas parts market AND the increase stringency of the EPA and State emissions requirements. The market is a sinking ship but we; who have and tuned our own cars don't care! We're still passionate in what we do with our cars. I still love my car! But if I had a time machine, I would have bought one back in the early 90s when I had more money and freedom to actually enjoy the car with actual physically present likeminded enthusiasts.
those kids are going to be really upset when they learn what the R stands for in WRX. not street s*** on bags with 20' wheels and camber that makes it undrivable. the people that just want HP, buy a V8.
@@AutoEnthusiast Unfortunately with government intervention and control we are seeing the beginning of the end for combustion engines. Long answer made short…It’s not that auto manufacturers don’t have the answers, they just don’t have the incentive to make vehicles for car and truck enthusiasts do to over regulation. Much of this you allude to in your video which is great 👍🏾 😊 However, Honda with the new Type R, Toyota with the new Subra, Nissan with the new Z, all said, “F it” let’s make a car for the gear heads. Subaru hasn’t decided to make the call yet.
It’s now or never! I’m getting a lease transfer for a 2023 wrx ( blue sport Canada ) getting it for the equivalent price of a base 2024 lease! Keep up the content . I guess your bet is right since I’ve waited over 10 years to get this car . Now I’m older so yeah I guess tunning and all is less on my mind .
Rubbish on parts from manufacturers. There are Subaru part websites selling parts AT DISCOUNT, and still making profit. Credit card fees do not equal the discounts here... so there is no way that is true.
Great content again! Loved the past videos around tire sizes, brands, and overall tire industry. Anyway you can do the same for VB and with current tire manufacturers?
My guess is that the VB WRX will be the last version of the WRX I wouldn’t be surprised if in the last two years of production the offer an STi trim with some improvements over the TR. I currently own a 22 VB I love the car but I tell people it’s quick not fast. It’s a fun car to drive and I have owned several WRX over the years. I mean cars are going to get boring except for EVs soon, because of emissions. Look at the change to the dodge lineup.
I decided to grab a 2024 WRX because I'm not too confident in something significantly better coming soon. With inflation and regulations increasing I wouldn't be too surprised to see something "worse" for more money next gen. With the recent announcement of the Legacy being discontinued, I'm betting on the return of the Forester XT if they want to maintain their fleet emissions numbers. Or maybe the WRX and Outback XT will be the last turbo models offered. Both seem more likely than getting an STI. I watched through to the end 👍
congrats on the ride, and thanks for the comment and the watch! I think you are right, I wouldn't feel so strongly if you could still buy one new as the next year is coming out for $25k lol. But those days are gone, and the average person buying a WRX is spending like ~34k. It's crazy for what we are buying.
I also have a 2023 premium manual. I’m not waiting for a slim chance of an STI coming out. It will probably be a CVT or hybrid and I’m not interested in any of that. I think the VB will be the last manual transmission WRX
How is the sentiment to "hold off for the next generation" not directly related to WRX sales? If the product is so amazing, then why would anyone have this sentiment? The connection between price and value for this generation WRX just isn't there IMHO. The cost to upgrade the looks of the car along with the same WRX transmission with the FA24 (the best part of the new platform) was a poor decision on Subaru's part. I think if they'd given the TR the STI transmission with the FA24 it would've given the aftermarket a huge boost and you'd see more people buying this gen WRX.
Apologies for the dumb question: if the VB WRX is the one with an FA24, is the VA the one with the FA20 like my 18? Is my car really only worth 6 or 7 thousand? Good thing I plan to keep it...
One thing i have noticed over the years with WRX is Subaru just keeps the car consistent. WRX has always been a car that has done 0-60 from mid 5s to mid 6s. And low 14 second 1/4 miles to high 13 seconds. Yes some years car and driver got 0-60 in 4s and low 13 seconds. But the clutch is probably screaming for mercy afterwards. Subaru only increases the power when the weight goes up to keep it that basically flat 14 second 1/4 mile car. I feel its internet lore and fast and the furious that gives the impression that WRX from the factory is a race car.
The only way I’ll get the new sti is if there’s some kind of better bearings ect for context I own 13 Subarus and a few other toys, and one main problem is bearings and a few other things like rods and oil feeds thays like the more major things, if they do that then maybe but if it’s the same fa24 in the wrx then it’s a waste of money
I hate people blaming the EPA and emissions. There's tons of manufacturers making performance cars with as much or more power the wrx...that argument is invalid. Subaru has lost there way and both wrx and the sti will be there biggest names they will use to push there EV future. Dont even bother with Subaru....get a GR, hyundai N, or Golf R....i could careless if Subaru goes under. They deserve to fail with the road they chose
Well just to say it, the emission regulations are the main factor here... Yes other brands are making performance cars, but other brands also have a heavy mix of hybrids and EVs, also most importantly make on average like 40%ish better fuel economy that a Subaru. The combination of AWD, cars designed for off roading and adventure, a high volume of hatch assemblies, among other things, have cause Subaru to have a lower ability to have flex in production. But also to be specific, you can see at times this present with other manufacturers but it is represented in volume per year, sometimes it isn't a business decision to produce a certain amount of GR corollas, it's a fleet decision. Yes I agree, we are over simplifying a complex issue, but it is the truth...
I’m 42 always been a truck guy. 2023 broke down bought a brand new Wrx limited world rally blue. Bought bronze rims for it, upgraded a bunch of stuff aesthetically and performance based. Took it had it tuned to roughly 350 to the wheel hp. I’m absolutely in love with the car. Oh 6 speed manual transmission of course.
Nice!!
Nice mate! I had planned to get one but ended up driving the BRZ and Type R and bought them both haha... couldn't go past the driving feel of the BRZ and the quality of the Type R compared to the WRX.. I'm not a massive fan of the looks of the current WRX anyway, but will keep an eye out for a potential STI if they go that way.
I'm 42 also. 2 weeks ago, I traded in my 22 Crosstrek for a 22 WRX. I installed a sport grille, front brace bar, STI wing, and Remark axle back exhaust. It's so much fun , I love it. It puts a smile on my face when Im driving.
A great video. I'm so happy I own my world rally blue STI. I upgraded from My 2017 WRX and bought the 2020 low miles Bluebaru STI. I can't believe Subaru won't make another STI, oh well, I'm enjoying my STI and I'm never selling it. Great content 👌. Good to see you back in a subie. Oh yeahhhh.
Hell yeah , I had an 08 one it was nuts , I’m gonna get another one after I get rid of this insane LR defender I have that costs as much as a mortgage
I do feel that reduced aftermarket parts sales are in part with current economic situations and shift in the market itself. We all had buzz and fun back in early 2000s because that was the cool thing to do, and there were ton of sports cars / sporty cars available. There were ton of market share, and everyone thought that this trend will last forever. After 2008, and fast forward 20 years, we face potential demise of ICE cars and the market being dominated by the SUVs and CUVs. Aside from manufacturers continuously refining and getting better at releasing products that are decent at stock level, the general consensus for most demographic who went through the early 2000s will want to preserve their cars as much as possible. Aftermarket parts, especially performance enhancing parts would decline. The rise of "parts that will make your car last longer" RUclips videos kinda sorta reflects the mindset of current generation who has enough income to buy performance cars IMO. Let's face it. After few years, there won't be cars as we remember and love. Wouldn't your priority be on how to make this car so that you can keep as long as possible? Consumers are forced to make 'smart' choices and that is leading towards reduced interest in aftermarket. If economy is booming and companies are coming up with all kinds of sports cars, and promises more in near future, hell, I would love to build my FA 20 to hit 480 hp and do STi tranny swaps and everything. But I would rather not. I would rather see this last 200k - 300k miles.
This video really resonated with me. Especially the depreciation of parts and supplies for the older WRX/STis.
Last year, I was lucky enough to nab one from a private dealer in Arizona; 04 STi with about 80k miles on it. All original OEM stuff and bits.
I, somewhat, feel late to the party as a lot of people moved on to more conventional EVs, or more practical used vehicles simply to get from point A to point B. Although, there still is a plethora of parts available as far as upgrades, there also is the slow decline in quality parts mostly due to the overseas copying/manufacturing of cheap parts. The third-party manufacturers that actually make quality parts are dwindling. Mostly due to the cheap overseas parts market AND the increase stringency of the EPA and State emissions requirements. The market is a sinking ship but we; who have and tuned our own cars don't care! We're still passionate in what we do with our cars.
I still love my car! But if I had a time machine, I would have bought one back in the early 90s when I had more money and freedom to actually enjoy the car with actual physically present likeminded enthusiasts.
those kids are going to be really upset when they learn what the R stands for in WRX. not street s*** on bags with 20' wheels and camber that makes it undrivable. the people that just want HP, buy a V8.
This is exactly why I’m sticking with my 2018 WRX. I won’t be buying another Subaru. I love JDM for life but my heart is still with Honda.
Love this but tough question, does honda have the answer??
@@AutoEnthusiast Unfortunately with government intervention and control we are seeing the beginning of the end for combustion engines. Long answer made short…It’s not that auto manufacturers don’t have the answers, they just don’t have the incentive to make vehicles for car and truck enthusiasts do to over regulation. Much of this you allude to in your video which is great 👍🏾 😊
However, Honda with the new Type R, Toyota with the new Subra, Nissan with the new Z, all said, “F it” let’s make a car for the gear heads. Subaru hasn’t decided to make the call yet.
i thought they stopped making STIs
Thanks so much for the update, man. Your videos are always informative.
It’s now or never! I’m getting a lease transfer for a 2023 wrx ( blue sport Canada ) getting it for the equivalent price of a base 2024 lease! Keep up the content . I guess your bet is right since I’ve waited over 10 years to get this car . Now I’m older so yeah I guess tunning and all is less on my mind .
congrats on the ride!
Rubbish on parts from manufacturers. There are Subaru part websites selling parts AT DISCOUNT, and still making profit. Credit card fees do not equal the discounts here... so there is no way that is true.
Great content again! Loved the past videos around tire sizes, brands, and overall tire industry. Anyway you can do the same for VB and with current tire manufacturers?
My guess is that the VB WRX will be the last version of the WRX I wouldn’t be surprised if in the last two years of production the offer an STi trim with some improvements over the TR. I currently own a 22 VB I love the car but I tell people it’s quick not fast. It’s a fun car to drive and I have owned several WRX over the years. I mean cars are going to get boring except for EVs soon, because of emissions. Look at the change to the dodge lineup.
I decided to grab a 2024 WRX because I'm not too confident in something significantly better coming soon. With inflation and regulations increasing I wouldn't be too surprised to see something "worse" for more money next gen. With the recent announcement of the Legacy being discontinued, I'm betting on the return of the Forester XT if they want to maintain their fleet emissions numbers. Or maybe the WRX and Outback XT will be the last turbo models offered. Both seem more likely than getting an STI. I watched through to the end 👍
congrats on the ride, and thanks for the comment and the watch! I think you are right, I wouldn't feel so strongly if you could still buy one new as the next year is coming out for $25k lol. But those days are gone, and the average person buying a WRX is spending like ~34k. It's crazy for what we are buying.
I also have a 2023 premium manual. I’m not waiting for a slim chance of an STI coming out. It will probably be a CVT or hybrid and I’m not interested in any of that. I think the VB will be the last manual transmission WRX
How is the sentiment to "hold off for the next generation" not directly related to WRX sales? If the product is so amazing, then why would anyone have this sentiment? The connection between price and value for this generation WRX just isn't there IMHO. The cost to upgrade the looks of the car along with the same WRX transmission with the FA24 (the best part of the new platform) was a poor decision on Subaru's part. I think if they'd given the TR the STI transmission with the FA24 it would've given the aftermarket a huge boost and you'd see more people buying this gen WRX.
I always wanted a Forester XT 04
Apologies for the dumb question: if the VB WRX is the one with an FA24, is the VA the one with the FA20 like my 18? Is my car really only worth 6 or 7 thousand? Good thing I plan to keep it...
I’m gonna laugh when the new STI only comes with a CVT.
Great education as always.
Its starting to “Smell like sti Spirit”.
I am thinking of getting a 2018+ sti and keep it for life
Haven’t they done this already? Has something changed? Lol
Surprise attack,
Baja STI 😂
lol
One thing i have noticed over the years with WRX is Subaru just keeps the car consistent. WRX has always been a car that has done 0-60 from mid 5s to mid 6s. And low 14 second 1/4 miles to high 13 seconds. Yes some years car and driver got 0-60 in 4s and low 13 seconds. But the clutch is probably screaming for mercy afterwards. Subaru only increases the power when the weight goes up to keep it that basically flat 14 second 1/4 mile car. I feel its internet lore and fast and the furious that gives the impression that WRX from the factory is a race car.
The only way I’ll get the new sti is if there’s some kind of better bearings ect for context I own 13 Subarus and a few other toys, and one main problem is bearings and a few other things like rods and oil feeds thays like the more major things, if they do that then maybe but if it’s the same fa24 in the wrx then it’s a waste of money
The sti is gonna be electric 340hp no combustion engine sti is coming back I sold my sti and went to test drive a new wrx and I was very disappointed
There ;) ❤
I hate people blaming the EPA and emissions. There's tons of manufacturers making performance cars with as much or more power the wrx...that argument is invalid.
Subaru has lost there way and both wrx and the sti will be there biggest names they will use to push there EV future.
Dont even bother with Subaru....get a GR, hyundai N, or Golf R....i could careless if Subaru goes under. They deserve to fail with the road they chose
Well just to say it, the emission regulations are the main factor here... Yes other brands are making performance cars, but other brands also have a heavy mix of hybrids and EVs, also most importantly make on average like 40%ish better fuel economy that a Subaru. The combination of AWD, cars designed for off roading and adventure, a high volume of hatch assemblies, among other things, have cause Subaru to have a lower ability to have flex in production. But also to be specific, you can see at times this present with other manufacturers but it is represented in volume per year, sometimes it isn't a business decision to produce a certain amount of GR corollas, it's a fleet decision.
Yes I agree, we are over simplifying a complex issue, but it is the truth...
16MIN OF YOUR FACE? PASS
lol it's an informational video, sorry chap