you all probably dont give a damn but does any of you know a trick to get back into an Instagram account..? I somehow forgot the login password. I love any tips you can offer me!
@George Jaxxon I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im trying it out now. Takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
In the sea of non-usable information. This video finally gives true value. Really helped me a lot after struggling with other tutorials that were more about marketing the web host services. I would really suggest doing full series that is aimed for people who had struggled with WP, and need some help rebuilding their sites. Thank you for this great video.
Great video, I have found the exact same experience with my Gutenberg and Elementor. I use GeneratePress on my own site and have found Gutenberg better to use. So much so that I have taken Elementor off.
You're right. This is something other RUclipsrs dont say. I also believe SEO plugins function best with Gutenberg, not only for live reviews but actually getting your pages/posts to show up on search engine results.
I know this video is old but just want to say thank you for your advice on using page builders. I really thought elementor was best in developing my blog but since I’m not building custom websites and just want to make my one website Gutenberg it’ll be.
Very good video. I was hoping you’d touch on using both. I used elementor to design my website. I just did my first blog and used Gutenberg because apparently that is a thing. The drab look of the blog caused me use elementor to get features I used on pages. At first, no issues. But, at some point the two didn’t play nice. Now, when I click on edit post, the guttenberg blocks give warnings and ask you click to recover the block and started to get wonky. My blog post was basically done, so I’m not screwing with it. The only real issue with the final post is some pictures are awkwardly placed and sized and trying to work with them as the showed in the visual text area of elementor was problematic. I may experiment, but my conclusion for now is that these two don’t play well together.
Hi John, Thank you for clarifying this a la carte approach to web design. I'm rebuilding my site with Astra and Elementor, and I've enjoyed writing blog posts using Gutenberg (art studio posts with lots of process shots) over the past year or so. Question: Do you think Gute is still a good single post choice if you're importing an archive of 500+ posts, each built with previously used themes and platforms (blogger back in the day)?
Goodness that sounds like a project. If you used any specific theme or plug-in functionality in the original posts, you're going to have a good bit of clean up work no matter which builder you use for the new version. Things like finding and removing old shortcodes and replacing with something similar with your new site. For blog posts I either use Gutenberg or Thrive Architect
@@johncreates Thanks for your reply. I think I'll try writing posts with Gute and Kadence, and see how that works. But I have to migrate the clone site I'm rebuilding over to the live site, and survey the clean up, first. Thanks for the note about replacing shortcodes. I'll look into that.
About to start my amazon affiliate blog website with Kadence theme + Kadence Block (Gutenberg) and this video helped me in locking my decision for Gutenberg blocks. Awesome info.
I use acf and custom built theme to give clients ability to do special blocks in gutenberg and certain settings for the website. The code is really clean this way and the design follows the mockups with the ability to choose from different layouts of the blocks. Is this bad nowadays and should elementor be used ? Kind of feels like the coding disappears? Or is it just more that it's meant more for designers or the website owners who want do it themselves?
This is super helpful, it validated that it's more advantageous for me to use Gutenberg for posts. Thank you for the effort. Question - how are you editing a post from WP admin context? When I edit or add a new post I presented a distinct screen with all editor options and I don't see the side WP-Admin menu. Is this a plugin or a setting? I like the concept of working from within the admin context.
Ha, I was thinking about messaging you yesterday when I saw you Gutenberg add on video. This was my exact question and this video answers it perfectly 🤣 thanks John!! Btw do you STILL think page builders have a place since recording this? Gutenberg has to get there eventually right?!
Basically Gutenberg was a replacement for WYSIWYG editor and that's exactly what anyone should use it for. To create posts, like you would do with the previous editor. And as you would not use the WYSIWYG editor to build pages, you will not use Gutenberg either.
you can even have the best of both world for blog posts : with elementor pro, set up a « single » template for your blog posts then use the post content widget in it. By doing so, you can design your blog posts with elementor but the content will still come from gutenberg.
thank you for the video! :) just what i needed. now I'd just like to know, is it possible to working with both? say layout with elementor and post blogs with gutenberg?
If you mean working on the same page/post with both Elementor and Gutenberg, this will break your page/post, except you are using Elementor Pro. Check out this video ruclips.net/video/XtZnoGBQtHY/видео.html
Hi , can you please tell me one thing here is there a way we can back to classic editor to add new post. I mean elementor to classic blog post editor. Thanks
As a total beginner, I started following you well, so thank you. However, at 5:25, I see that you pull up some nice options under "DOCUMENTS"; I don't have all these "Sidebar" and "Content layout" under Astra Settings. Heck, I don't even see Astra settings in my DOCUMENTS section. Why is that? Is it safe to assume that it's an "add on" on your part and you didn't tell us? If so, when not told, beginners like me assume it comes in standard in Gutenberg and we are too dumb to find it, or my version of Gutenberg doesn't have it. Thanks for understanding.
Ah you must not have the Astra Theme on your site. No worries - it's just a free theme that I use in most of my tutorials, but since this is mainly about Elementor & Gutenberg (page builders) the theme options really aren't too critical. But if you wanted to follow step by step you could look for the free astra theme in your WordPress site :)
@@johncreates Thank you for your quick response. You say: "...you could look for the free astra theme in your WordPress site". What does that mean? I searched and couldn't find it. There is not even a "Search" bar on my WordPress page or even on the Dashboard. So, I finally found a SUPPORT button which redirected me to WordPress.org. There, it seems as though that "Astra Settings" is a "Plugin"-what ever that is/means. See, with much respect, you have to realize how illiterate folks like me are. So when we find a tutorial like yours which offers GREAT answers, every now and then, you use ONE thing in that tutorial that is not standard and it throws us off.
Hey thanks for the feedback and yeah you’re right sometimes once you know something for so long it’s hard to remember what it’s like NOT to know it. In your /WP-admin dashboard you have an Appearance > Themes setting, and there is a button to add a new theme. In the search bar you can search Astra and it will come up. Install, activate and voila! But FYI I do have complete zero to hero tutorials on my channel that walk through these basic steps in more detail, but I can’t really do that for every video, as each one would be about an hour ;)
Thank you!! for me page builders are the future because fastness and design, gutemberg will little by litle update do rich what elementor do for exemple. all is about page load speed and page builders makers knows that, they will focus on this for the time been. code will be only for back end professionals, applications etc. website in the future will be toke by bage builders or ready make like WIX here in france
In my opinion, at the moment, elementor is perfect for row/columns/layout based pages like startpage or team or portfolio-overview with the typical stuff like at 4:53min. But if you need to write a lot of blogposts or articles (of portfolio for example) than Gutenberg is best. The theme should be setup well and than you just write without thinking about colors or typo or margins or effects. In the future we will see, how Gutenberg can edit header and footer. That will be interesting. I very like elementor but i dont like the workflow to load it and go back to the settings-page... A lot of clicks and new tabs... And another point for me is, that i often hustle with theme or plugin updates or bugs and here you know, Gutenberg is core-based. And that gives me a good feeling!
Gutenberg is twice faster than Elementor and it is the main benefit. The best Gutenberg theme for now is WP Front from Madras themes, Envato. Very clean nice design
Gutenberg is NOT a page builder. First part of your video explaining posts is what Gutenberg is for exactly. Elementor is not a Posts editor and no one should think it is no matter what Ben Pines is selling it as but Gutenberg is not a template/page builder no matter what you're selling it as. State the obvious and say 1. Use Gute for Post creation and 2. Use Elementor for page/template creation (it will help your Elementor Affiliate link in the description I'm betting). And again folks Elementor is not a Posts editor it is a posts layout creator. elementor.com/blog/design-your-single-post-template/ I find your demeanor very sincere and a warm personality and for a niche crowd needing these types of lessons that's great but I think you should be a little more detailed in your explanations as this video is sending mixed messages. I wish you only the best! Oh and you're website is blank....
I'm sorry but this is just not correct. Gutenberg is a page builder... you can build pages with it... I'm not sure what definition you are following with your comment. Have you seen what Astra's Starter Sites have accomplished using nothing but Gutenberg Blocks? wpastra.com/gutenberg-templates/ They build fully designed pages using Gutenberg... It's a page builder - plain and simple. What I think you are trying to say is that Gutenberg is not the most polished or full-featured page builder on the market. And I 100% agree with you! Hence why I teach people how to use Elementor and Gutenberg together... And you're also wrong about Elementor being capable as a post builder... Dude you have strong opinions and that's great - but the world isn't black and white. My wife creates 6,000+ word blog posts using Divi and guess what - they are the best posts on that blog because page builders give you design flexibility that can be helpful in both posts AND pages. Depending on your audience that's what you need. Some posts are more focused on simply getting concepts out quickly which is where Gutenberg shines. Others are more design focused and Page builders still have a leg up. I'm not deleting your comment because it's good to hear other perspectives, but I think you let your personal biases cloud reality a bit. Cheers!
What.. that's not how you would blog using elementor. You'd create your blog post template, and after that you'd use the native wordpress post feature. This is misleading at best.
@@johncreates The situation was the same 2.5 years ago. And your comment makes no sense. The whole point is you don't blog inside the elementor builder. Npt then, not now. I don't mean to be harsh in any way, it was just so far off I couldn't not say something.
After 10 videos on the topic, I found this one and it was EXACTLY what i was looking for! Thanks for taking the time to create this video!
Thank you so much for the kind words!!!
Yep
you all probably dont give a damn but does any of you know a trick to get back into an Instagram account..?
I somehow forgot the login password. I love any tips you can offer me!
@Major Dexter instablaster =)
@George Jaxxon I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im trying it out now.
Takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
This was extreemly helpful. I've been trying Gut as a new user of Wordpress but its still very frustrating. even with drag and drop
Super helpful, definitely the balanced approach. Elementor for one time landing pages, Gutenberg for templates posts
post and only post, but for design thats why bage builders born !!! they have to focus and reduce speed thats all
In the sea of non-usable information. This video finally gives true value. Really helped me a lot after struggling with other tutorials that were more about marketing the web host services. I would really suggest doing full series that is aimed for people who had struggled with WP, and need some help rebuilding their sites. Thank you for this great video.
Great video, I have found the exact same experience with my Gutenberg and Elementor. I use GeneratePress on my own site and have found Gutenberg better to use. So much so that I have taken Elementor off.
You're right. This is something other RUclipsrs dont say. I also believe SEO plugins function best with Gutenberg, not only for live reviews but actually getting your pages/posts to show up on search engine results.
This is excactly what I needed to learn! Thank you!
I know this video is old but just want to say thank you for your advice on using page builders. I really thought elementor was best in developing my blog but since I’m not building custom websites and just want to make my one website Gutenberg it’ll be.
Good video. You helped me to decide on using Elementor
Very good video. I was hoping you’d touch on using both. I used elementor to design my website. I just did my first blog and used Gutenberg because apparently that is a thing. The drab look of the blog caused me use elementor to get features I used on pages. At first, no issues. But, at some point the two didn’t play nice. Now, when I click on edit post, the guttenberg blocks give warnings and ask you click to recover the block and started to get wonky. My blog post was basically done, so I’m not screwing with it. The only real issue with the final post is some pictures are awkwardly placed and sized and trying to work with them as the showed in the visual text area of elementor was problematic. I may experiment, but my conclusion for now is that these two don’t play well together.
Thanks for the comment and the observation is right on DJ
Hi John, Thank you for clarifying this a la carte approach to web design. I'm rebuilding my site with Astra and Elementor, and I've enjoyed writing blog posts using Gutenberg (art studio posts with lots of process shots) over the past year or so. Question: Do you think Gute is still a good single post choice if you're importing an archive of 500+ posts, each built with previously used themes and platforms (blogger back in the day)?
Goodness that sounds like a project. If you used any specific theme or plug-in functionality in the original posts, you're going to have a good bit of clean up work no matter which builder you use for the new version.
Things like finding and removing old shortcodes and replacing with something similar with your new site.
For blog posts I either use Gutenberg or Thrive Architect
@@johncreates Thanks for your reply. I think I'll try writing posts with Gute and Kadence, and see how that works. But I have to migrate the clone site I'm rebuilding over to the live site, and survey the clean up, first. Thanks for the note about replacing shortcodes. I'll look into that.
About to start my amazon affiliate blog website with Kadence theme + Kadence Block (Gutenberg) and this video helped me in locking my decision for Gutenberg blocks. Awesome info.
Hi, how is it going with the affiliate blog? I'm also in the same situation and I'm interested in discussing solutions for these kinds of sites.
I use acf and custom built theme to give clients ability to do special blocks in gutenberg and certain settings for the website. The code is really clean this way and the design follows the mockups with the ability to choose from different layouts of the blocks. Is this bad nowadays and should elementor be used ? Kind of feels like the coding disappears? Or is it just more that it's meant more for designers or the website owners who want do it themselves?
It’s definitely not bad but many users struggle setting up ACF. And it also works with Elementor so it’s not an either or.
Great video. Thank you so much!
So happy to help you!
This is super helpful, it validated that it's more advantageous for me to use Gutenberg for posts. Thank you for the effort. Question - how are you editing a post from WP admin context? When I edit or add a new post I presented a distinct screen with all editor options and I don't see the side WP-Admin menu. Is this a plugin or a setting? I like the concept of working from within the admin context.
Ha, I was thinking about messaging you yesterday when I saw you Gutenberg add on video. This was my exact question and this video answers it perfectly 🤣 thanks John!!
Btw do you STILL think page builders have a place since recording this? Gutenberg has to get there eventually right?!
What if you download a theme that uses Gutenberg. Would it be advisable to also use Elementor for the added flexibility? Thanks!
Basically Gutenberg was a replacement for WYSIWYG editor and that's exactly what anyone should use it for. To create posts, like you would do with the previous editor. And as you would not use the WYSIWYG editor to build pages, you will not use Gutenberg either.
Nailed it!
Thanks. Makes sense. BUT, is it possible to use a page builder for complex pages and plain vanilla Gutenberg for blog posts?
Yep that’s pretty much the point I was making :)
you can even have the best of both world for blog posts : with elementor pro, set up a « single » template for your blog posts then use the post content widget in it. By doing so, you can design your blog posts with elementor but the content will still come from gutenberg.
fissunix you got it! It’s so fun to do it that way. Design control and content creation efficiency. It’s a beautiful thing
Thank you for the info. As a WordPress newbie, integration/compatibility of so many available tools can all be quite confusing.
@@fissunix you obviously mean by using elementor blocks for Gutenberg?
thank you for the video! :) just what i needed. now I'd just like to know, is it possible to working with both? say layout with elementor and post blogs with gutenberg?
If you mean working on the same page/post with both Elementor and Gutenberg, this will break your page/post, except you are using Elementor Pro.
Check out this video ruclips.net/video/XtZnoGBQtHY/видео.html
kenny amasike thank you!
@@NadjaDelyona You're welcome
This video is August of last year. Has your approach changed since all the changes in Gutenberg?
Hi , can you please tell me one thing here is there a way we can back to classic editor to add new post.
I mean elementor to classic blog post editor.
Thanks
Sure when you add a new post you can choose the editor, simply do not select Elementor and you should be fine!
If you mean the old classic Editor (not Gutenberg) than you can install the plugin "classic Editor".
As a total beginner, I started following you well, so thank you. However, at 5:25, I see that you pull up some nice options under "DOCUMENTS"; I don't have all these "Sidebar" and "Content layout" under Astra Settings. Heck, I don't even see Astra settings in my DOCUMENTS section. Why is that? Is it safe to assume that it's an "add on" on your part and you didn't tell us? If so, when not told, beginners like me assume it comes in standard in Gutenberg and we are too dumb to find it, or my version of Gutenberg doesn't have it. Thanks for understanding.
Ah you must not have the Astra Theme on your site. No worries - it's just a free theme that I use in most of my tutorials, but since this is mainly about Elementor & Gutenberg (page builders) the theme options really aren't too critical. But if you wanted to follow step by step you could look for the free astra theme in your WordPress site :)
@@johncreates Thank you for your quick response. You say: "...you could look for the free astra theme in your WordPress site". What does that mean? I searched and couldn't find it. There is not even a "Search" bar on my WordPress page or even on the Dashboard. So, I finally found a SUPPORT button which redirected me to WordPress.org. There, it seems as though that "Astra Settings" is a "Plugin"-what ever that is/means.
See, with much respect, you have to realize how illiterate folks like me are. So when we find a tutorial like yours which offers GREAT answers, every now and then, you use ONE thing in that tutorial that is not standard and it throws us off.
Hey thanks for the feedback and yeah you’re right sometimes once you know something for so long it’s hard to remember what it’s like NOT to know it.
In your /WP-admin dashboard you have an Appearance > Themes setting, and there is a button to add a new theme. In the search bar you can search Astra and it will come up. Install, activate and voila!
But FYI I do have complete zero to hero tutorials on my channel that walk through these basic steps in more detail, but I can’t really do that for every video, as each one would be about an hour ;)
Thank you!! for me page builders are the future because fastness and design, gutemberg will little by litle update do rich what elementor do for exemple. all is about page load speed and page builders makers knows that, they will focus on this for the time been. code will be only for back end professionals, applications etc. website in the future will be toke by bage builders or ready make like WIX here in france
Well said!
In my opinion, at the moment, elementor is perfect for row/columns/layout based pages like startpage or team or portfolio-overview with the typical stuff like at 4:53min. But if you need to write a lot of blogposts or articles (of portfolio for example) than Gutenberg is best. The theme should be setup well and than you just write without thinking about colors or typo or margins or effects. In the future we will see, how Gutenberg can edit header and footer. That will be interesting. I very like elementor but i dont like the workflow to load it and go back to the settings-page... A lot of clicks and new tabs... And another point for me is, that i often hustle with theme or plugin updates or bugs and here you know, Gutenberg is core-based. And that gives me a good feeling!
So use Gutenberg as you use the classical editor, don't mind using those blocks.
I am so skeptical that i can use elementor. But i am really liking guterberg....
Gutenberg is twice faster than Elementor and it is the main benefit. The best Gutenberg theme for now is WP Front from Madras themes, Envato. Very clean nice design
Is it faster to use to create pages or are pages created with Gutenberg faster to load?
@@humanyoda Faster to load
@@9090RF How about Oxygen builder?
@@humanyodaHaven't any experience with this builder
Elementor or Gutenberg for webpage creation
Gutenberg is NOT a page builder. First part of your video explaining posts is what Gutenberg is for exactly. Elementor is not a Posts editor and no one should think it is no matter what Ben Pines is selling it as but Gutenberg is not a template/page builder no matter what you're selling it as. State the obvious and say 1. Use Gute for Post creation and 2. Use Elementor for page/template creation (it will help your Elementor Affiliate link in the description I'm betting). And again folks Elementor is not a Posts editor it is a posts layout creator. elementor.com/blog/design-your-single-post-template/
I find your demeanor very sincere and a warm personality and for a niche crowd needing these types of lessons that's great but I think you should be a little more detailed in your explanations as this video is sending mixed messages. I wish you only the best! Oh and you're website is blank....
I'm sorry but this is just not correct. Gutenberg is a page builder... you can build pages with it... I'm not sure what definition you are following with your comment. Have you seen what Astra's Starter Sites have accomplished using nothing but Gutenberg Blocks? wpastra.com/gutenberg-templates/
They build fully designed pages using Gutenberg... It's a page builder - plain and simple.
What I think you are trying to say is that Gutenberg is not the most polished or full-featured page builder on the market. And I 100% agree with you! Hence why I teach people how to use Elementor and Gutenberg together...
And you're also wrong about Elementor being capable as a post builder... Dude you have strong opinions and that's great - but the world isn't black and white. My wife creates 6,000+ word blog posts using Divi and guess what - they are the best posts on that blog because page builders give you design flexibility that can be helpful in both posts AND pages. Depending on your audience that's what you need.
Some posts are more focused on simply getting concepts out quickly which is where Gutenberg shines. Others are more design focused and Page builders still have a leg up.
I'm not deleting your comment because it's good to hear other perspectives, but I think you let your personal biases cloud reality a bit. Cheers!
Are you talking about the free or the paid version of Elementor?
He is using a pro version. Although in video he only used free version options.
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What.. that's not how you would blog using elementor. You'd create your blog post template, and after that you'd use the native wordpress post feature. This is misleading at best.
First of all that post is 2.5 years old… second of all you can use Elementor for template design and content design…. But thanks for your comment!
@@johncreates The situation was the same 2.5 years ago. And your comment makes no sense. The whole point is you don't blog inside the elementor builder. Npt then, not now. I don't mean to be harsh in any way, it was just so far off I couldn't not say something.
gutenberg full is the best and simple