Impressive results with single click AI Overclock, congrats to Asus! Hope every motherboard had this feature. Would save us several hours of fine tuning.
Look back now, how fast your CPU degraded because of 1 click solutions by motherboards. I have the 13700k and always disable that crap. My CPU works perfectly fine with nice temps. Other people CPUs are crashing because they were pushed beyond their limits for too long
@@lir4e My 13700K runs fixed 1.25v Vcore, 5200mhz (P) and 4200mhz (E) currently. And has those speeds always 24/7. Not dependent by weather heat or how long. You can up it with watercooling -> 1.35v, 5500mhz, 4300mhz.
@@lir4eit has nothing to do with OC. Rly? The issue is from intel/Microcode.... not OC. If you got a good CPU you can easy OC them. I got ingame in ghost of tsushima 40-43°. Normal 45-55 Benchmark 70-80. If you OC right you can easy go to 5,8-5,9 GHz (14700K@300W..not 253)
Very kind, how does AI AC Loadline 0.30 mohms impact to set adaptive voltage with a 58X Ratio compared to 0.01 mohms? I'm using an Apex Encore and a 13700K. Thank you so much for the excellence of your lessons💪
Thank you very much, in fact I tried and, in my case, it turned out to be an offset of 25 mv on Svid . I went back to 0.01 mohms but at the same time I had to lower CPU ratio to 57x when 4 cores are active, 56x for 6 cores and 55x for 8 cores. Now the system is stable but above this ratio I just can't go up and when I try there is a significant performance decay. Thank you again for the time you have dedicated to me.
Hi I have an 14700k with gigabyte z790 aorus pro X and 96gb 6600mhz with 32, 39, 39, 76. I have problems with one of the components during heavy loads or quick loads. When I use latest bios settings with default settings (even xmp not on) cpu runs 100c and I get power limit throtteling, Curent EDP limit, and thermal throtteling. It’s weird that I get it with base settings? All settings is on auto…? But when I put cpu v core 1.35v and activate performance mode on cpu all this 3 Abow dissapear and cpu runs at 85c max in cinebench24 and I get 2030 points. But I still feel something is wrong when I play games, it doesn’t feels smooth.. + my latency jumps from 3-5ms to 60 ms. And I get fps drops from 240 down to 130 for a short time. What’s causing this issue? Is it wrong settings in bios or is the something wrong with the cpu? Ram?
Thanks for this Video, I don't understand the Rule for the E-Cores when you set 46/6 - aren't the E-Cores organized in clusters of 4 cores each and therefore you have to set Turbo Ratio Rules for 4 / 8 / 12 / 16 ??
Hey Pieter-Jan, my apologies if you have already spoken about this but what are your thoughts on the latest Intel chip failures? Do you think following your suggested settings in this video would likely lead to a greatly accelerated death of the CPU? Possibly a great video to make would be best settings for keeping your Intel chip alive??? Thanks for all your amazing content, loving the overclocks you've managed to get so far on Zen 5.
So far I haven't made an public comments about the ongoing situation with Intel CPUs. I don't follow the issue too closely, but from what I gather it's still not really clear what's the root cause?
@@SkatterBencher yeah I don't think anyone really knows. The consensus at the moment appears to be that the ring bus is defective, it can't handle the number of cores and the high clocks/voltages. There might still be an oxidation issue but Intel claims that's been totally corrected. I bought a 14700K but I haven't opened it yet and I might try to return it for Zen 5.
@@SkatterBencher I guess from the fact we don't appear to be seeing the issue anywhere near as much on low voltage mobile and server chips means it must be something to do with the high voltages on high end desktop so limiting this probably helps but at the same time reduces performance so Intel is trying to balance not getting sued for reducing advertised performance too much vs not having a 100% failure rate on pretty much every CPU without 12-18 months of use!
@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt I have searched the nets and all info aviable about this and the only problem seems to be very high voltage over long periods of time. 1.5+ to be exact. only ones that got the problem was the people who are running a stock settings before microcode on i9. even on my 14700k on stock settings i have seen it get close to 1.5. now i run it undervolted and it never goes above 1.35 with 5.6 all p core
Hey! Thanks for your video. Although much of this is over my head, I was able to use your simple approach to the bios OC and under volt. Do you think I could try pushing it further, or should I just keep your settings? I essentially copied your exact method and my system has been completely stable for a few days. My temps do get pretty high when I am stress testing, but I don't know if that's avoidable with a Corsair aio. I set the cores exactly as you have them in the simple overclock. Do you think I could push those values or just leave them be? Thanks!
Every CPU and system is unique, so even though my settings might work for your CPU, it doesn't mean that's the limit of your CPU. In other words, you can always try and see if there's more to be squeezed from your CPU!
Hello, which LGA 1700 CPU is best to overclock? Intel Core I7 13700K, 14700K or Intel Core i9 14900K or maybe it is the i9 14900KS? Which CPU stays coolest and can therefore be clocked the highest? Thank you very much 🤔
First of all thank you very much for this well done explenatory movie. I have a motherboard Asus TUF Gaming Z790-Plus Wifi, my question is there a work arroun in order ro have that Ai overclokin because I can not find any way to do it that way. On the official page there it says that the mother board has "advanced AI overcloking" but I can not find it
idk if i got a god-bin but my 13600k stays locked at 5.6ghz all p cores, 4.4 all ecores, and 4.8 ring ratio. I have not expereinced any thermal throttling during gaming or in cinebench. I hit a max of 90C, 200 watts but maintined clocks and scored over 25k in Cinebench R23. The voltage is pretty much always below 1.3v aswell. Very pleased so far.
Regarding the avx scale band..less is less voltage ⚡. But I would disable avx .. get it stable...where you want...then readd in avx with an offset and possibly 150% band, due to undervolt
I was copying the BIOS settings exactly the same way on my Z790 Hero, but in Prime 95 the system stops running with black screen immediately. Then i played with the V/F Curve a bit and it was running. In OCCT i get WHEA Errors in a 3 sec frequency. I tried to fix it with the V/F Curve option in Asus AI Suite but it didnt help. I wonder, because the P- Cores have an SP score from over 100 but the E-Cores are weak with 64 or so. Do you have any suggestions?
OK that's a pretty advanced configuration so there could be multiple reasons why the settings don't work on your system. I would suggest to first try OC Strategy #4 and see if that works. OCS#5 is a finetuning of #4, so if #4 doesn't work then #5 definitely won't either.
i run mine at 5.6ghz p cores and 4.5ghz e cores 355watt power limit with core offset - 0.035V with ddr5 7200xmp cl32 Corsair dominator platinum 32gb Running all stable with a Deepcool 360 AIO LT720 and Msi MPG 690 force wifi
Hello there, this is a truly awesome guide! However, I am having issues with my 14700k (SP 74, cooler 188, asus z690 itx w/ latest BIOS) with your #5 settings that I copied as is. with the setting it would pass the OCCT and other stress test with no issue and temp is under 95C, however when I started to run computation work which roughly requires 70% of CPU load I would constantly get BSOD (clock watchdog timeout). I then lowered P core speed from 62 to 60 then to 59 (4x59, 2x58, 2x57), and increased LLC to 5, temp was fine but still getting the BSOD after 1 hour or so. May I know what I should do next? could it be the V/F point 11 offset of 0.035 to much? could it be the ecore having issues? I would really appreciate your help... Thanks so much!
It's hard to diagnose remotely, so the usual caveats apply. It could be a couple of things. 1) E-core is a good guess and easy to check by reducing the frequency. 2) I'm assuming you also run OCCT with AVX2? If not, then compilation sounds like it would rely on AVX instructions. (Does Cinebench R23/2024 crash as well?) 3) It could be a particular P-core that's not cooperating well. To try that, you can go back to the configuration from OCS#5 but go into the BIOS and set the Per Core Ratio Limit to, let's say, 57X or 58X. Try the stress test and if it passes increase the Per Core Ratio Limit by one.
I know you say don't copy values, but would they be similar for 14900k? I'm not sure where to start. Been watching videos and reading guides but still seems too much for me. I just want my CPU not to get too hot and run at optimal levels.
Got gskill 6400Mhz , Z690F asus ddr5 , Whenever i turn on xpm and set ram speed on 6400 , my system getting crashes. any idea why ? cant touch this cpu at all , Have no temp issue at all aswell , what is the problem ?
@SkatterBencher Mate. Do you have any videos on how to overclock DDR4 on z690 asus motherboard with RaptorLake CPU'S (14600K)? I am having a hardtime overclocking my mems not like before I am using an Alderlake CPU it's easy to OC DDR4 Memory
Hey, thanks for the video! Is there any benefit from only overcloking the cpi cahche ratio? I see amd has better performance from more cache in games? Maybe faster cahce would help also? I m on an i9 14900kf and asus dark hero
There's only a benefit in specific applications, unfortunately. At stock the ring speed (which also controls the L3 speed) is already fast enough to provide data to the cores and other parts of the CPU. In extreme overclocking scenarios, where the cores are clocked very high, there's a small benefit. Also, if you're trying to squeeze the last 0.1% of performance sometimes there might be.
Auto. I only show the BIOS items I change myself. If I don't change it, I simply rely on the motherboard's auto-configuration. Auto-rules may adjust the values, of course.
@@SkatterBencher I followed Strategy #4 and set the voltage to 1.43. It’s stable for medium workloads, but crashes with a blue screen under heavy loads. Are there any downsides to keeping the voltage at 1.43?
Could I set all of these setting on my 14900k and then adjust when needed? I could get more out of my 14900k but the other video wasn’t on an Asus board which is what I have :(
The strategies will be very similar for 14700K and 14900K. I never recommend just copying the settings, though you can follow the strategies and see where you end up with your CPU
Could you do a video with a 14900k on an Asus board? Also it would be awesome if you did it with an AIO because most people have that in their system over true water cooling
Do you guys experience the same issue? I've got myself a 14700k and its sp rating was very bad with 82. For 5.2GHz / 4.2 Ghz / 4.5 Ring it pulls 380ish watts in R23. I noticed that as soon as the VID exceeds the Vcore the cpu would recieve way less points than it should get regarding to other benchmarks on hwbot. So I used throttlestop to reduce VID by about 175 mV to match my Vcore under load and now I get 36k R23, not throttleing at all @ 5.5 GHz / 4.3 / 4.5 and 295 watts. Can anybody tell me anything about this "feature", "bug", or whatever that should be?
@@timetraveler_0 CEP was the problem, now some cores throttle at 76ish degrees Celsius, which in fact is the ring that thermal throttles at around 4.5ghz and 1.28v of vid. That cpu definitely is faulty and is going to be rma'd soon
If you get a decent quality motherboard, then overclocking capability is mostly chip dependent (on ambient). With extreme cooling, motherboards matter a bit more because you need adequate auto-rules and tuning options.
@@SkatterBencher thanks i will do that, i also did a bit undervolting using intel microcode x104. for cinebench it takes 5-7 seconds longer till 100c, i guess it will be more stablize on other apps. quick question since intel has set the limit to 100c, is it really a risk for 14700kf not changing anything?
Generally no, but there are different specific settings that I'd use. You can see how I use GIGABYTE boards in my 14900K guide ruclips.net/video/Ww_BJhz_w98/видео.html
Make a manual old style overclock, fixed P and E cores and fixed Vcore. Works wonders. For example around 5300mhz (P) and 4200mhz (E) with Vcore of 1.275v should work. Should make the temps also more like 85 degrees than the 100 degrees max.
It's a bit confusing because multiple technologies are part of the TVB specification. However, most people are only aware of the extra boost frequency. For CPUs like the 14700K, where the Ark product page says it doesn't support TVB, it means that there's no extra TVB frequency boost. However, the TVB voltage optimizations (which reduce voltage depending on operating temperature) are still present and active.
I tried this on my z790 formula 14900k. My idle cpu volatges hit upto 1.626! Underload, however cr23 load voltage is 1.288. My cpu vid tables are super high from factory that the 14700k in this video. Like 6.1ghz is set at 1.489. Its 104 p core sp, 80 e core and 96 sp overall.
Hey SkatterBencher, amazing video with elaborate explanations on the overclocking concepts of Raptor Lake Refresh CPUs for beginners! I especially enjoyed the explanations on the new technologies that the LGA 1700 socket comes with, since I’m coming from LGA 1151. I plan on going from an i7-9700k to an i5-14600k, and I wanted to know if you have a video or blog post, anything really, that gives an explanation on the settings you use on all of your benchmarks and the duration of time you run the benchmarks as I want to try your method of ensuring stability. Out of all the benchmarks that you use in your suite, I am only acquainted with OCCT, so it would be great if you had some sort of information on what settings you used, the duration of time you spend on each corresponding benchmarks, and if any benchmark programs require any special setup besides unzipping, or running an .exe. Once again, thank you for all of your hard work, research, and testing you put into all of your videos! I also have a couple of other questions, but I fell this question is a good starting question.
What about for the 14600K when putting up those v/f curves values in 9,10,11 is this the same? As the 14600k got only 9 voltage frequency curves or just put the values what you've shown here but it's on V/F 7,8,9? and those milli volt values of .015, .015 .035 are those the same values with 14600k too?
I’m furious that in order to fix the best part about going with Intel rn, the fact that they’re unlocked 🔓 vercloxk machines; is kneecapped by the microcode badaid is such bullshit. They 500+ $ CPUs. Mine is BRAND NEW. Why can’t it run anything at all? I swear if my settings in bios aren’t FLAWLESS (there’s no rhyme or reason to what I have to disable/enable bc he doesn’t clarify which kinda of overclock settings to turn on and off for each setting) so basically I am either scorching my brand new clue trying to make overclock on the new code or just never gonna play my games bc I’m trying to attain impossible to achieve speeds with the voltage limits. It was bad enough before not being able to undervolt and set a negative curve below factory settings in “unlocked CPUs “ but now they might as well be rebranded 14700s
My 13700K can do 30000 CB23 points with just 160w use. Fixed 5000mhz (P), 4000mhz (E), and 1.175v (Vcore). But who cares about power in the top range, you want speed, and there the 13900K and 14900K beat the 7950X hands down.:D
my 12700k just died, ill ask to get the refund and go 14700k. i must have had a bad chip from the start the memory controller sucked, and the chip degraded heavily towards the end i had to disable turbo , disable hyperthreading, disable ecores. and it would run sortof stable but when playing valorant today i had a hard freeze, no bluescreen just game not moving. rebooted and wouldnt post. then mobo show cpu led.
My 13900ks have also degraded alot. Was able to run pcore 5.8ghz, 4.6ghz ecore and 52 cache at 1.365v Now im only able to run p-core 5.8ghz, 4.5ghz e-core and 50 cache at 1.385v and I also need tvb with an offset of -1 at 67c to get it stable. Above 67c its no longer stable unless i upp voltage to 1.43v... My cpu is not even running hot, but still degraded at an insane level.
@@jewelersofwhale sucks vi wonder why 12 and 14 gen has so shitty mem controllers too. on my 10700k i could run my 3600c16 b-die at 4133c16 stable. on 12 and barely tested 14 3600c16 xmp isnt even stable
@@FordSierraISyepp, i noticed i needed to bump up SA voltage alot to get 4100mhz cl15 gear 1. I need 1.375v SA, and before i needed 1.32v sa. The main stability issue i have is the l3 cache, i can run cinebench or prime95 at low voltage for 5.8ghz but as soon as i stresstest cache it needs above 1.35v even at cpu stock settings to get stable. And the cpu is specified to be using 1.262v at stock, but thats not possible anymore.
Whats wrong with that? Just got a new 14700k and its sitting at 0.85 but 5.5g with c states and e cores disabled. I thought something was wrong but its holding 5.5 no problem. Am i doing something wrong? Also got 850 watt supply both cpu power cables plugged in.
Fantastic guide, I think it’s the most thorough one available since it goes through pros and cons of each method and compares them, Thank You!
Finally 14700K. I am waiting for it so long. Thank you.
Impressive results with single click AI Overclock, congrats to Asus! Hope every motherboard had this feature. Would save us several hours of fine tuning.
Look back now, how fast your CPU degraded because of 1 click solutions by motherboards.
I have the 13700k and always disable that crap. My CPU works perfectly fine with nice temps. Other people CPUs are crashing because they were pushed beyond their limits for too long
@@lir4e My 13700K runs fixed 1.25v Vcore, 5200mhz (P) and 4200mhz (E) currently. And has those speeds always 24/7. Not dependent by weather heat or how long. You can up it with watercooling -> 1.35v, 5500mhz, 4300mhz.
@@lir4eit has nothing to do with OC.
Rly?
The issue is from intel/Microcode.... not OC.
If you got a good CPU you can easy OC them.
I got ingame in ghost of tsushima 40-43°.
Normal 45-55
Benchmark 70-80.
If you OC right you can easy go to 5,8-5,9 GHz
(14700K@300W..not 253)
I was waiting for that one! 😃
Very kind, how does AI AC Loadline 0.30 mohms impact to set adaptive voltage with a 58X Ratio compared to 0.01 mohms? I'm using an Apex Encore and a 13700K. Thank you so much for the excellence of your lessons💪
Not sure exactly since it wasn't stable. I think it's in the range of 20-30mV, however. Not that much but enough to make it unstable with this CPU.
Thank you very much, in fact I tried and, in my case, it turned out to be an offset of 25 mv on Svid . I went back to 0.01 mohms but at the same time I had to lower CPU ratio to 57x when 4 cores are active, 56x for 6 cores and 55x for 8 cores. Now the system is stable but above this ratio I just can't go up and when I try there is a significant performance decay. Thank you again for the time you have dedicated to me.
Hi I have an 14700k with gigabyte z790 aorus pro X and 96gb 6600mhz with 32, 39, 39, 76. I have problems with one of the components during heavy loads or quick loads. When I use latest bios settings with default settings (even xmp not on) cpu runs 100c and I get power limit throtteling, Curent EDP limit, and thermal throtteling. It’s weird that I get it with base settings? All settings is on auto…? But when I put cpu v core 1.35v and activate performance mode on cpu all this 3 Abow dissapear and cpu runs at 85c max in cinebench24 and I get 2030 points. But I still feel something is wrong when I play games, it doesn’t feels smooth.. + my latency jumps from 3-5ms to 60 ms. And I get fps drops from 240 down to 130 for a short time. What’s causing this issue? Is it wrong settings in bios or is the something wrong with the cpu? Ram?
My motherboard screen shows error 00 ? I used xtu witn undervoltage protection on
Thanks for this Video,
I don't understand the Rule for the E-Cores when you set 46/6 - aren't the E-Cores organized in clusters of 4 cores each and therefore you have to set Turbo Ratio Rules for 4 / 8 / 12 / 16 ??
Thanks for the Asus mobo vid.
Hey Pieter-Jan, my apologies if you have already spoken about this but what are your thoughts on the latest Intel chip failures? Do you think following your suggested settings in this video would likely lead to a greatly accelerated death of the CPU? Possibly a great video to make would be best settings for keeping your Intel chip alive???
Thanks for all your amazing content, loving the overclocks you've managed to get so far on Zen 5.
So far I haven't made an public comments about the ongoing situation with Intel CPUs. I don't follow the issue too closely, but from what I gather it's still not really clear what's the root cause?
@@SkatterBencher yeah I don't think anyone really knows. The consensus at the moment appears to be that the ring bus is defective, it can't handle the number of cores and the high clocks/voltages. There might still be an oxidation issue but Intel claims that's been totally corrected.
I bought a 14700K but I haven't opened it yet and I might try to return it for Zen 5.
@@SkatterBencher I guess from the fact we don't appear to be seeing the issue anywhere near as much on low voltage mobile and server chips means it must be something to do with the high voltages on high end desktop so limiting this probably helps but at the same time reduces performance so Intel is trying to balance not getting sued for reducing advertised performance too much vs not having a 100% failure rate on pretty much every CPU without 12-18 months of use!
@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt I have searched the nets and all info aviable about this and the only problem seems to be very high voltage over long periods of time. 1.5+ to be exact. only ones that got the problem was the people who are running a stock settings before microcode on i9. even on my 14700k on stock settings i have seen it get close to 1.5. now i run it undervolted and it never goes above 1.35 with 5.6 all p core
Hey! Thanks for your video. Although much of this is over my head, I was able to use your simple approach to the bios OC and under volt. Do you think I could try pushing it further, or should I just keep your settings? I essentially copied your exact method and my system has been completely stable for a few days. My temps do get pretty high when I am stress testing, but I don't know if that's avoidable with a Corsair aio. I set the cores exactly as you have them in the simple overclock. Do you think I could push those values or just leave them be? Thanks!
Every CPU and system is unique, so even though my settings might work for your CPU, it doesn't mean that's the limit of your CPU. In other words, you can always try and see if there's more to be squeezed from your CPU!
Hello, which LGA 1700 CPU is best to overclock? Intel Core I7 13700K, 14700K or Intel Core i9 14900K or maybe it is the i9 14900KS? Which CPU stays coolest and can therefore be clocked the highest? Thank you very much 🤔
14900KS obviously because it is the best in quality silicon.
Same setup here... but did not work
can you do 14900ks on this board please.
First of all thank you very much for this well done explenatory movie. I have a motherboard Asus TUF Gaming Z790-Plus Wifi, my question is there a work arroun in order ro have that Ai overclokin because I can not find any way to do it that way. On the official page there it says that the mother board has "advanced AI overcloking" but I can not find it
idk if i got a god-bin but my 13600k stays locked at 5.6ghz all p cores, 4.4 all ecores, and 4.8 ring ratio. I have not expereinced any thermal throttling during gaming or in cinebench. I hit a max of 90C, 200 watts but maintined clocks and scored over 25k in Cinebench R23. The voltage is pretty much always below 1.3v aswell. Very pleased so far.
I have an Asus TUF Z790 , a simple step on how to achieve low voltage and good performance with reduced temps ? not much out there Im total noob
Regarding the avx scale band..less is less voltage ⚡. But I would disable avx .. get it stable...where you want...then readd in avx with an offset and possibly 150% band, due to undervolt
I was copying the BIOS settings exactly the same way on my Z790 Hero, but in Prime 95 the system stops running with black screen immediately. Then i played with the V/F Curve a bit and it was running. In OCCT i get WHEA Errors in a 3 sec frequency. I tried to fix it with the V/F Curve option in Asus AI Suite but it didnt help. I wonder, because the P- Cores have an SP score from over 100 but the E-Cores are weak with 64 or so. Do you have any suggestions?
Which OC Strategy are you copying?
Its strategy No. 5
OK that's a pretty advanced configuration so there could be multiple reasons why the settings don't work on your system. I would suggest to first try OC Strategy #4 and see if that works. OCS#5 is a finetuning of #4, so if #4 doesn't work then #5 definitely won't either.
thank you for your advice, Sir.@@SkatterBencher
i run mine at 5.6ghz p cores and 4.5ghz e cores 355watt power limit with core offset - 0.035V with ddr5 7200xmp cl32 Corsair dominator platinum 32gb Running all stable with a Deepcool 360 AIO LT720 and Msi MPG 690 force wifi
Hello there, this is a truly awesome guide! However, I am having issues with my 14700k (SP 74, cooler 188, asus z690 itx w/ latest BIOS) with your #5 settings that I copied as is. with the setting it would pass the OCCT and other stress test with no issue and temp is under 95C, however when I started to run computation work which roughly requires 70% of CPU load I would constantly get BSOD (clock watchdog timeout). I then lowered P core speed from 62 to 60 then to 59 (4x59, 2x58, 2x57), and increased LLC to 5, temp was fine but still getting the BSOD after 1 hour or so. May I know what I should do next? could it be the V/F point 11 offset of 0.035 to much? could it be the ecore having issues? I would really appreciate your help... Thanks so much!
It's hard to diagnose remotely, so the usual caveats apply. It could be a couple of things.
1) E-core is a good guess and easy to check by reducing the frequency.
2) I'm assuming you also run OCCT with AVX2? If not, then compilation sounds like it would rely on AVX instructions. (Does Cinebench R23/2024 crash as well?)
3) It could be a particular P-core that's not cooperating well. To try that, you can go back to the configuration from OCS#5 but go into the BIOS and set the Per Core Ratio Limit to, let's say, 57X or 58X. Try the stress test and if it passes increase the Per Core Ratio Limit by one.
@@SkatterBencher Thanks so much！I lowered the ecore to 45x and pcore to 58/56/55 with LLC 5, now it works great！You are awesome！
I know you say don't copy values, but would they be similar for 14900k? I'm not sure where to start. Been watching videos and reading guides but still seems too much for me. I just want my CPU not to get too hot and run at optimal levels.
The strategies will be similar, for sure. The values could be similar but that's as much I can say
Got gskill 6400Mhz , Z690F asus ddr5 , Whenever i turn on xpm and set ram speed on 6400 , my system getting crashes. any idea why ? cant touch this cpu at all , Have no temp issue at all aswell , what is the problem ?
What happens if you enable XMP first, then manually set the frequency to, let's say, DDR5-6000?
wish my motherboard had those settings..
@SkatterBencher
Mate. Do you have any videos on how to overclock DDR4 on z690 asus motherboard with RaptorLake CPU'S (14600K)? I am having a hardtime overclocking my mems not like before I am using an Alderlake CPU it's easy to OC DDR4 Memory
No, I don't think I touched DDR4 with Intel since the OC guide with the 12600KF
@@SkatterBencher alderlake doesnt have any problem overclocling ddr4
Hey, thanks for the video! Is there any benefit from only overcloking the cpi cahche ratio? I see amd has better performance from more cache in games? Maybe faster cahce would help also? I m on an i9 14900kf and asus dark hero
There's only a benefit in specific applications, unfortunately. At stock the ring speed (which also controls the L3 speed) is already fast enough to provide data to the cores and other parts of the CPU. In extreme overclocking scenarios, where the cores are clocked very high, there's a small benefit. Also, if you're trying to squeeze the last 0.1% of performance sometimes there might be.
can my 13900k do this overclock on a chiller and a z790 maximus hero
For Strategy #4, do you set the System Agent Voltage to Manual or Auto?
Auto.
I only show the BIOS items I change myself. If I don't change it, I simply rely on the motherboard's auto-configuration. Auto-rules may adjust the values, of course.
@@SkatterBencher I followed Strategy #4 and set the voltage to 1.43. It’s stable for medium workloads, but crashes with a blue screen under heavy loads. Are there any downsides to keeping the voltage at 1.43?
@@drudaxyes chip degradado
Could I set all of these setting on my 14900k and then adjust when needed? I could get more out of my 14900k but the other video wasn’t on an Asus board which is what I have :(
The strategies will be very similar for 14700K and 14900K. I never recommend just copying the settings, though you can follow the strategies and see where you end up with your CPU
Could you do a video with a 14900k on an Asus board? Also it would be awesome if you did it with an AIO because most people have that in their system over true water cooling
Where did you get a 14700K with a 81 SP, the average is 72 and I got a 68 combined SP
Taiwan is a magical place :)
Nice bro... Now send that system to me
Can you share your i7-14700k Batch no. ? seems to be a top 1% sample. thanks
I second this If I even attempt 44x e core I get a crash.
Hi! great vid! Can you share your i7-14700k Batch no. ?
Don't think I took a picture of the IHS
Do you guys experience the same issue? I've got myself a 14700k and its sp rating was very bad with 82. For 5.2GHz / 4.2 Ghz / 4.5 Ring it pulls 380ish watts in R23. I noticed that as soon as the VID exceeds the Vcore the cpu would recieve way less points than it should get regarding to other benchmarks on hwbot. So I used throttlestop to reduce VID by about 175 mV to match my Vcore under load and now I get 36k R23, not throttleing at all @ 5.5 GHz / 4.3 / 4.5 and 295 watts. Can anybody tell me anything about this "feature", "bug", or whatever that should be?
Did you RMA it finally?
@@timetraveler_0 CEP was the problem, now some cores throttle at 76ish degrees Celsius, which in fact is the ring that thermal throttles at around 4.5ghz and 1.28v of vid.
That cpu definitely is faulty and is going to be rma'd soon
Isnt DC_LL not synced to The LLC level on Asus mobos ?
Yes it is
Ty, wait now 14700kon gigabyte mb . And what need to do if want change for example overclock to 5800
question is it chip dependent or motherboard dependent ho much you can the k cpu's overclock
If you get a decent quality motherboard, then overclocking capability is mostly chip dependent (on ambient).
With extreme cooling, motherboards matter a bit more because you need adequate auto-rules and tuning options.
thx
i have h770 asus pro wifi with noctua u12a , what do you recommend?
Unfortunately, CPU overclocking is not enabled on an H-series motherboard
@@SkatterBencher it runs hot specially with cinebench multi core 100c , i'm concerned for its lifetime , what do you recommend?
You can always limit the maximum temperature in the BIOS. You will lose a bit of performance, but the maximum temperature will be lower.
@@SkatterBencher thanks i will do that, i also did a bit undervolting using intel microcode x104. for cinebench it takes 5-7 seconds longer till 100c, i guess it will be more stablize on other apps. quick question since intel has set the limit to 100c, is it really a risk for 14700kf not changing anything?
Is there anything you would do differently on a gigabyte master board?
Generally no, but there are different specific settings that I'd use. You can see how I use GIGABYTE boards in my 14900K guide ruclips.net/video/Ww_BJhz_w98/видео.html
I have 12b microcode and core voltage is fixed and low enough.
I Dont understand anything I have 14700k and this core is make too much heat how can i get lower tempature can you give me time? what can i apply.
Make a manual old style overclock, fixed P and E cores and fixed Vcore. Works wonders. For example around 5300mhz (P) and 4200mhz (E) with Vcore of 1.275v should work. Should make the temps also more like 85 degrees than the 100 degrees max.
Never gets to 6.2ghz forget it
Intel states that the i7 doesn’t support TVB, or at least it is not listed on their ARK page. So what is going on? Do motherboards just do it anyways?
It's a bit confusing because multiple technologies are part of the TVB specification. However, most people are only aware of the extra boost frequency.
For CPUs like the 14700K, where the Ark product page says it doesn't support TVB, it means that there's no extra TVB frequency boost. However, the TVB voltage optimizations (which reduce voltage depending on operating temperature) are still present and active.
@@SkatterBencher On Reddit there are people saying that they hit the extra boost freq. with TVB turned on with their 14700k…
I tried this on my z790 formula 14900k. My idle cpu volatges hit upto 1.626! Underload, however cr23 load voltage is 1.288. My cpu vid tables are super high from factory that the 14700k in this video. Like 6.1ghz is set at 1.489. Its 104 p core sp, 80 e core and 96 sp overall.
good video need laptop gaming undervolt too like 12800hx 13980hx
Pls make 14900k to Asus Motherboard as well !
Since the 14900K and 14700K are so similar, you should be able to use the 14700K with 14900K CPUs as well
I only see Ai tweaked not Extreme
Can you do it with a intel mobo please
Hey SkatterBencher, amazing video with elaborate explanations on the overclocking concepts of Raptor Lake Refresh CPUs for beginners! I especially enjoyed the explanations on the new technologies that the LGA 1700 socket comes with, since I’m coming from LGA 1151. I plan on going from an i7-9700k to an i5-14600k, and I wanted to know if you have a video or blog post, anything really, that gives an explanation on the settings you use on all of your benchmarks and the duration of time you run the benchmarks as I want to try your method of ensuring stability. Out of all the benchmarks that you use in your suite, I am only acquainted with OCCT, so it would be great if you had some sort of information on what settings you used, the duration of time you spend on each corresponding benchmarks, and if any benchmark programs require any special setup besides unzipping, or running an .exe. Once again, thank you for all of your hard work, research, and testing you put into all of your videos! I also have a couple of other questions, but I fell this question is a good starting question.
Any chance that you will do this on an MSI board?
Not any time soon ... there are too many projects I've started that I need to finish before starting new ones.
Mine have i714700k but ram is over clock goes sut down 6200mzh blue screen
I have try exactly the same on my same config.... cpu blocked at 800mhz😂
Clear cmos and ok ,but😭
What about for the 14600K when putting up those v/f curves values in 9,10,11 is this the same? As the 14600k got only 9 voltage frequency curves or just put the values what you've shown here but it's on V/F 7,8,9? and those milli volt values of .015, .015 .035 are those the same values with 14600k too?
I’m furious that in order to fix the best part about going with Intel rn, the fact that they’re unlocked 🔓 vercloxk machines; is kneecapped by the microcode badaid is such bullshit. They 500+ $ CPUs. Mine is BRAND NEW. Why can’t it run anything at all? I swear if my settings in bios aren’t FLAWLESS (there’s no rhyme or reason to what I have to disable/enable bc he doesn’t clarify which kinda of overclock settings to turn on and off for each setting) so basically I am either scorching my brand new clue trying to make overclock on the new code or just never gonna play my games bc I’m trying to attain impossible to achieve speeds with the voltage limits.
It was bad enough before not being able to undervolt and set a negative curve below factory settings in “unlocked CPUs “ but now they might as well be rebranded 14700s
Do you offer online overclocking assistance. 💰?
Yes, you can book an appointment through my website skatterbencher.com/contact/
What the hell 1.164 v stock.my 14700k runs at 1.450-1.550v at stock
ROG Strix b760-f board btw
And where is your 6200MHz???? i only see ~5200MHz.
264W now called undervolt?
7950X makes 38000 cinebench R23 with just 132W
My 13700K can do 30000 CB23 points with just 160w use. Fixed 5000mhz (P), 4000mhz (E), and 1.175v (Vcore).
But who cares about power in the top range, you want speed, and there the 13900K and 14900K beat the 7950X hands down.:D
my 12700k just died, ill ask to get the refund and go 14700k. i must have had a bad chip from the start the memory controller sucked, and the chip degraded heavily towards the end i had to disable turbo , disable hyperthreading, disable ecores. and it would run sortof stable but when playing valorant today i had a hard freeze, no bluescreen just game not moving. rebooted and wouldnt post. then mobo show cpu led.
My 13900ks have also degraded alot.
Was able to run pcore 5.8ghz, 4.6ghz ecore and 52 cache at 1.365v
Now im only able to run p-core 5.8ghz, 4.5ghz e-core and 50 cache at 1.385v and I also need tvb with an offset of -1 at 67c to get it stable. Above 67c its no longer stable unless i upp voltage to 1.43v...
My cpu is not even running hot, but still degraded at an insane level.
@@jewelersofwhale sucks vi wonder why 12 and 14 gen has so shitty mem controllers too. on my 10700k i could run my 3600c16 b-die at 4133c16 stable. on 12 and barely tested 14 3600c16 xmp isnt even stable
@@FordSierraISyepp, i noticed i needed to bump up SA voltage alot to get 4100mhz cl15 gear 1.
I need 1.375v SA, and before i needed 1.32v sa.
The main stability issue i have is the l3 cache, i can run cinebench or prime95 at low voltage for 5.8ghz but as soon as i stresstest cache it needs above 1.35v even at cpu stock settings to get stable. And the cpu is specified to be using 1.262v at stock, but thats not possible anymore.
@@jewelersofwhale how have you been using the cpu? lots of rendering etc or just gaming
Ty for video, but I hate asus mb.
Your CPU Z scores are way off and inflated. Plus voltage 1.160v? Really? On SP81 CPU?!!
Whats wrong with that? Just got a new 14700k and its sitting at 0.85 but 5.5g with c states and e cores disabled. I thought something was wrong but its holding 5.5 no problem. Am i doing something wrong? Also got 850 watt supply both cpu power cables plugged in.
My 12700k sits at 1.15 stable since I bought it. These things are overvolted way too much.
Hi guys, I have an i7 13700K SP 89 CPU. Is SP89 good or bad?🤔 What is really bad in SP value and what is best?
@@MetalSonic88 who cares, even a bad 13700k will still kick ass
Me and many others. 🙄