So long, Canon EOS M! An appreciation and a farewell
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2023
- Well who didn't see THAT coming? As I said, Although it may continue to be sold in other territories for a while, Canon's Japanese website has officially discontinued the products, so the writing is officially on the wall.
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Here are some links to reviews and interesting EOS M videos:
Complete Guide to Canon EF-M lenses: • A Complete Guide to Ca...
Canon kit lenses:
EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM review: • Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3...
Find it here: geni.us/canonefm1545
EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM review: • Canon EF-M 18-55mm f/3...
Find it here: geni.us/EFM1855
Canon EF-M 18-150mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM ($500 / £470):
Review: • Canon EF-M 18-150mm f/...
Find it here: geni.us/canonefm18150
Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM ($350 / £300):
Review: • Canon EF-M 55-200mm f/...
Find it here: geni.us/canonefm55200
Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM ($400 / £370):
Review: • Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4...
Find it here: geni.us/canonefm1122isstm
Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM ($250 / £230):
Review: • Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 ST...
Find it here: geni.us/canonefm22mm
Canon EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro IS STM ($300 / £300)
Review: • Canon EF-M 28mm f/3.5 ...
Find it here: geni.us/canonefm28mm
Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM ($500 / £500)
Review: • Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 ...
Find it here: geni.us/canonefm32f14
Sigma f/1.4 prime lenses:
Sigma 16mm f/1.4 review: • Sigma 16mm f/1.4 DC DN...
Sigma 16mm f/1.4 find it here: geni.us/sigma16mmf14canon
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 review: • Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DC DN...
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 find it here: geni.us/Sigma30mmCanonEFM
Sigma 56mm f/1.4 review: • Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN...
Equipment I use to make my videos (Amazon affiliate links):
Canon EOS R5: geni.us/CanonEOSR5Body
Canon EF-RF Adaptor: geni.us/CanonEFtoRF
Sigma 50mm f/1.4 'Art': geni.us/Sigma50mm14Art
Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 IS STM: geni.us/CanonRF35mm18Macro
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Music:
'Sidewalk Shade', Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
'Bossa Antigua', Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Sigma 56mm f/1.4 find it here: geni.us/Sigma56EFM 
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The 22mm f2 was a gem of a lens. I wish they had made a fully weather sealed fixed lens version of the M6 mk2.
M50 + 32mm is still a very good travel combo. Weighs just about nothing, fits (almost) in a pocket and produces really good quality photos. Love it.
The 1st gen eos m was actually amazing with magic lantern. RAW video really transformed it
I still have mine. While I've generally moved on to using a Sigma FP, I still admire the EOS M for its ability to shoot 3K raw with incredible quality, all in a small package that weighs barely 1 lb (body and lens).
And it also had a great mic preamp -- much better than subsequent models.
The analogy to MiniDisc was spot-on. You deserve a thumbs up for your videos anyway, including this would merit a double like.
My first camera was the M50 mark I... With the Sigma 30mm f1.4 and the viltrox speedbooster with adapted 85mm 1.8 i was able to capture one of my most favourite images of all time. Small lightweight package with fantastic IQ and decent AF. After 3,5 years I upraded to FF but i will miss those times dearly.
My first mirrorless was the introductory model of the M series. And yes, I got the 22mm and the 18-55mm lens package as well as the little flash. Over the years I upgraded a few times and still own 2 M5 bodies, the lenses previously mentioned as well as the EF-M 11-22mm. The wide angle zoom is almost always on one of my bodies and the other one has a Tamron 18-400mm which I find to be just about everything I need when out and about. I do own the Canon R, R7 and R6 MKII and a bunch of RF lenses but I still like to take my M5 system when I want a lighter bag. I have no plans to sell my M system. I just sent both bodies to CPS for their free 18 point inspection and sensor cleaning. Got the shutter count and there is lots of life left for these 2 cameras. I have considered picking up a 3rd one and having it converted for infrared.
I have a lot of the newer R cameras but I love my EOS M5 and EOS M200 and I own the whole range of the EF-M Lenses.
For me the best system to carry arround a complete system from 11mm to 250mm in only one small hipbag. Never will sell it!
Thank you for this nice viedeo!
me too, but I don't hv 32mm/1.4 because of the price. I owned the latest model M50ii and will never sell it. Pic quality is good and focus system is better than my EOS RP.
@@wilsonyoung2651 ...wait a little while and you will get it quite cheap! It's worth it! ;-)
Same here. I will not sell my M50 or M6 MKII. Love them and have acquired all Canon and Sigma lens for them.
M10 was my first proper camera, got it to take photos of my newborn baby and found my hobby! Then I got the 22mm lens, and the picture quality was top! Sold my M10 because the auto focus for videos was poor, got a new M6 II, and a used M50, Sigma 30mm, Sigma 56 and all my needs are covered. I'm not interested in other systems at the moment and I do not regret investing in the M system because I use it almost daily and love the size and portability. There are plenty of used "like new" bodies and lenses on the market. I don't see myself getting another camera system soon, unless I was to do professional paid work.
I bought a "used" EOS M 22mm 18-55mm and the 90ex in a kit. I've never regretted it and I still shoot it almost every day.
I remember buying the first EOS M+22mm f2, and then upgrading the body to M50 which I still use until now.
For me the pancake 22mm makes it hard to bid farewell to the M system as imho they are the perfect lens: tiny, versatile focal length, great image quality, and bright aperture
It was the Sigma contemporary lenses that saved this camera line for a time. I was going to get rid of mine until I saw the reviews for the 56mm Sigma contemporary lens and bought one. I also got a speed booster from EF to EF-M so that I could get good low light photography (even though a big, fast EF lens looks really funny adapted to that mount.)
I'm still using my M50ii and M6ii. The M50ii mainly for videos (with the Sigma 16mm), and the M6 for photography, My favourite EF-M lenses are the 27mm macro and the 22mm. The 11-22mm zoom is great for indoor events. I'll probably keep using them rather than selling since the RF system just doesn't appeal to me at all.
The M3 was my first mirrorless, and I still use my M6 regularly. My first (and for a while only) EF-M lens was the 22mm f/2, and it's what sold me on the system in the first place. Later I got a range of other lenses (including the 11-22mm, the 32mm, etc.- based largely on your reviews of them, by the way) and a number of third-party manual lenses, from various manufacturers. Except for the M6 body and the EVF-DC2, all my genuine Canon EF-M stuff was bought used. Ironically, I did end up getting one of those strobes as well, but almost exclusively for use with my RP, which has no flash of its own.
Thing is, there's nothing that can quite match the size and convenience of the EF-M system, and I'm still satisfied with the images I'm getting, so there's little chance of me selling off my gear anytime soon. If anything, I might track down an M6-II in good condition someday for one last upgrade.
enjoy it for years man. Ppl seem to think that Canon discontinuing the system means we can't use it anymore. These awesome pieces of gear will remain usable for years to come. I know i'm sticking with it!
The M50 is still my main camera, and the second I’ve ever owned. I really wish Canon would’ve made an M5 Mark II, combining the 32MP sensor and control dials of the M6 Mark II with the viewfinder and flip screen of the M50.. oh well. I’ll enjoy my little box while it lasts.
I love my M6 mkII dearly, but I do wish it had a built-in evf and a fully articulated screen. I'm still going to get a second one, and I want the 32mm f1.4.
I like that the m6 ii doesn’t have the EVF… since switching to mirrorless I’ve never used the viewfinder on any of my cameras. The EVF seems useless on a mirrorless camera where the back screen is already there showing the same thing. I wish they would make an RF camera without one too since they’ve just discontinued their best compact camera.
@@stonewp i totally agree, i've grown to love the adaptability of the removable EVF. It's there when you need it, and when you don't you've got the most powerful point and shoot camera money can buy. I also shoot mostly without the EVF as it's just quicker and easier to frame from different angles, especially low ones. The tilt screen is perfect in this scenario, even if shooting portrait as you can tilt it out to the side. Canon discontinuing the line means nothing to owners of the system. The cameras will work for years to come, don't let this stop you from using great cameras which will now only get more affordable.
Obsolete until you absolutely can't take a photo. I have the EOS R, but will use the M50 until it breaks. It's so small and great for a travel camera. Nice Video!!
I still use the EOS M in 2023. I'm a complete beginner to Photography and Videography. It's a great learning camera
Favorite system ever! With Canon 22mm + Sigma 56mm lenses I don't need anything else.
I'm really baffled that there isn't an RF-S version of the 22mm f/2. It really was a perfect little standard lens. Great image quality, close focusing, lovely bokeh, incredibly compact, highly affordable. Canon make four RF-S cameras now, but not one prime lens for RF-S. Ridiculous. Granted it took them 11 years to get around to doing it on EF-S, but they should be learning from those oversights. Marketing an entry-level camera without a standard prime lens in the catalog is ludicrous to me.
You can use the 16mm and 28mm primes, those are very small and good value for money. Don’t limit yourself to RF-S :)
I loved getting to start my photo journey on the EOS M50. It had Canon ergonomics and it was so cute. I started with the 15-45mm and the 32mm. Later, I picked up the M6 Mark II and a couple other EF-M lenses. I think I’ll pick up the Sigma 16 and 56 in EF-M one day. I just love the size and the usability of the EOS M system. With the larger mount, I’m not sure if they can ever make such cute little bodies and lenses again. Nonetheless, I’m super excited to keep using my EOS M system and it will occupy a special part of my photography journey 😁
You owe it to yourself to get the EF-M 22mm pancake lens. It's so good for what it is.
Haha I have the 11-22mm, 22mm, 15-45mm, and 32mm. I find that the 22mm isn’t really sharp on the 32.5 MP sensor until about F4.0. But if I just post on insta it’s good as a pocket cam ☺️☺️
The system that never was. Having said that I recently bought a second hand M3 with 15-45mm AND the 22mm boxed and mint for £200. Cracking carry round camera. I picked up an electronic viewfinder cheap and I'm quite happy with it.
I love all of my M bodies and lenses, and using them with EF / EFs lenses with an adapter.
I’m using an eos m5 with the 22mm pancake as a walk around/travel setup and the pictures are completely satisfactory for the 400 USD I spent on the package. The best camera is the one you have on you and being able to fit it in a pocket or a bag easily makes it my most used camera for non paid work despite owning and preferring my Nikon DSLR in both experience and picture quality. There’s something to be said for small cameras that have more granularity than those on my smart phone and are somehow cheaper than a quality point and shoot.
I had the M6 II and several lenses. Even today the M system covers all my needs and more. Unless one is a niche photographer, that needs specific gear, the system is more than capable. Street, portraits, candid, photojournalism, even architecture, macro or landscape - one can do all sorts of things with these cameras and lenses. Maybe the only gripe I had was that the system was not weather resistant. Apart of that the 11-22, the 22mm, the 32mm and the adapted 50 STM and 100/2.0 served me more than well and I sold them because I needed the money, not because I was not happy.
The M50 series of cameras are what kept that line alive. The M50 was really the basic vlogging camera of it's day.
I will never get rid of my M50 MKII and M6 MKII. I love them! I just need to get a couple of the Sigma & EF lenses to complete my set.
Im with you here Absolutely love them
Agreed! Love them!
It’s unfortunate as it was not a bad system. It was my gateway back into Canon after many years using m43 Panasonic cameras. I took a chance and picked up a M6 mk2 for the heck of it to see what all the hype was about Canon. I was very impressed from the moment I used it. It had a ton of flaws of course but I could see the potential of how Canon could look. I eventually moved up to a R6 and now a R5 and I love them. It was thanks to the EOS-M system that brought me back to Canon after many years.
The Sigma f1.4 primes were absolutely amazing on the camera. I also adapted Tamron f2.8 zooms with an adapter which worked great.
Sadly it was very clear EOS-M wasn’t really going anywhere and its days were numbered. Canon could have done more with it but it was also clear it was being held back. APSC is always the red headed step child to Canon and a bit of a purposely limited format.
22mm and especially 32mm 1.4 are exceptionally good lenses for their form factor able to capture incredible images.
You're right, it's not surprising. The M50 was my first mirrorless camera. I never could bring myself to buy M mount lenses. I went with adapted ef glass instead. Recently, I ripped off the hot mirror and converted it to full spectrum. The kit lens works well enough for my current needs.
I have a gen 1 eos m as well. was gonna be my 1st step into photography. Never really got into the hobby, but still made a lot of nice memories with it.
Going to use my M50 until it breaks. Love that little thing and it was my first "real" camera, so I could never part from it. It will probably be my last canon as well as I desided to take my money elsewhere.
The M50ii was the successor to the best selling Canon camera when I bought it - I felt let down then they stopped making lenses for it, and even more crestfallen when we learned that Canon was giving a cease and desist to AF lens makers! It was weird to process at the time, but I'm happy with my new Sony now!
Ditto, I bought the ZV-E10 and the fabulous 11mm f1.8. Sony have the common sense to allow 3rd party manufacturers on their mount. I can't express how let down and angry I feel by Canon. The best response is to take my money elsewhere.
Same story here, was burnt by Canon on this and now avoid them and stick with Sony - and I am sure a lot of other similar storties out there.
wat? dat crazy
The first canon m50 was my first camera and what got me in to photography.
I have a soft spot for the M line but it was a matter of time before it got discontinued.
The M50 was my first real camera a few years ago. The first lenses I bought were the 22mm f2 and the 32mm f1.4 and I was so happy with them that even when selling most of my old gear, I kept the M50 body just to shoot with those two lenses. I love the RF full frame system but sometimes the smaller and more portable body is all I can take with me and it's great for that.
I bought the original Eos M for $200 as a backup camera, and it did wonders being a B-Cam to my 6D at the time at a very low price. My brother had the M50 and it was a fun camera to use for travel and casual use.
I can see the M50s on the used market with an EF adapter be a great stepping stone for beginner photogrpahers, I know a lot of professional photographers still rocking with EF as the prices have dropped compared to the expensive RF counterparts.
M50 with ef/efs adapted lenses is very capable!
I still have my MD system and still love it! I don't use it, but I still can't get rid of it. Loved the Canon M system too, but gave up on it years ago. RIP.
Canon user for 20+ years. Sold my Canon gear this spring to go with Sony because I am not rich (RF L lenses are ridiculous, even used) but want decent lenses. So I now have a set of Sigma on my Sony A7 IV. Had Canon allowed Third Party lenses? I would be approaching 21 years of shooting Canon. So dead on Christopher about them alienating photographers. As I am not the only one who has switched.
My first camera was an A6000. Once I got into photography, I got an M6 II and enjoyed it quite a bit. That was last year. Then I heard that Canon dropped the M mount, so the system would get no new glass. A lot of people were saying "Just get EF glass!" and I did. A big 17-55 F2.8 Canon lens. That thing was 3x the weight of the camera! Im a hobbiest, and wanted something portable and I found myself leaving the camera home since it was just so bulky. I started looking at RF camera's but then the news broke that RF was a locked format, and I JUST had the M mount die just before that, I was done with Canon. Went back to Sony and got an A6600, and now have an A6700. I have Tamron, Sigma, and Sony glass (Just got the Sony 70-200 F4 MkII!!!!) and im really happy.
The canon eos m is one of the most fun cameras I own got so many good photo and videos of my kid when she was really young looking even dreamer with some vintage glass
Bought my M50 mk2 in 2021 and still do not regret it. It's a really great versatile little camera system, and easy on the budget. With camera sales lost to smartphones It's no wonder Canon has to tighten up the product line but, dropping the APS-C line may prove to be a mistake in the long run. I'm guessing the profit margin on full frame is better than APS-C. Not sure Canon will see the volume in FF they saw in APS-C, but then perhaps that's the plan. I won't be upgrading anytime soon.
I started my proper photography journey this year back in April when I bought a used Canon M50 with the Sigma 30mm f/1.4. That combo allowed me to take my absolute favorite portrait ever of a friend in a flower field lit by the golden hour.
That is a combo so good that I am having a hard time departing from it even when I have settled on my Fuji X-T5 as my APS-C system of choice. I know I eventually will sell my M50 but it still feels so good to handle and use.
RIP the M mount, hopefully Canon will open up their RF mount sooner rather than later.
I still love my EOS M50, even though I own more expensive EOS R system cameras and lenses. Especially with the 22 mm F2 and 32 mm F1.4 Canon EOS M options. So much camera in such a small package. There are so many situations a small and lightweight system comes in handy.
Same here, sold my m cameras last year, really liked my m50 and m6 m ii. Quality out of those was spot on, overheating for 4K was sort of a problem but it was a good system. Let’s hope that they come up with some more stuff. Good video as usual, cheers 😊🙏🏻
I am trying to switch from my ancient Nikon D3000 to a mirrorless camera.
The EOS-M was on my radar for 3-4 years and now that I almost reached a decision after seeing your great reviews, they bring these news...
still worth it and more affordable than ever now. You won't be disappointed.
The M6 II was by far the best of the series, it felt like Canon finally stopped hitting EOS M with the cripple hammer and made a proper enthusiast compact camera. But by then it was too late, Sony had already established dominance in the market with their A6000 series. I had an M6 II for a while, it was great for social media videos, street photography, and even some casual birding.
I picked up the original EOS M on a trip to Japan, after it had been out for about 6 months - Canon was already discounting it and I got the body, 18-55mm zoom, 22mm f/2, and the EF-S adapter for about JPY50000. Eventually I tired of the autofocus performance and set it aside in favour of my phone, but I recently got back into photography (on Fuji) and now my EOS M has a second life - my 6 year old son loves it! With the 22mm it's a perfect walk-around camera for him, and he's taken some really fun pictures with it.
M50 is still serving me well, no plans to upgrade just yet! Mainly using ef/s lenses so I'll be able to continue on to RF (probably R10) when the time comes.
The R10 is fantastic. It's got a great grip, loads of control points, excellent autofocus, and it's a nice setup with the RF 28mm (although I still hope for a remounted 22 f2).
@@marximus4hopefully they'll start coming through used soon. I've got the 22mm attached to the M50 as a 'lens cap' when I'm not using other lenses.
I still use my M6 Mark ii for my RUclips channel. I don't see giving it upnor needing to upgrade anytime soon. Honestly there isn't a single thing the Canon R cameras can do that my M6 can't do, that makes me think it's time to upgrade.
The 22mm is so sharp and small.
Pictures at an exhibition-try ELPs live version , you will not be disappointed!
The OG EOS M was my first real camera. It was a lot of fun and taught me a lot. I wanted to pick one up for nostalgia’s sake but that camera got a second life with the magic lantern software that allows you to shoot RAW video and even convert it to RED style video formats.
I was shocked that a camera that got less than stellar reviews still holds good resale value today, more than I paid in fact.
Only reason i m hesitant of newer Canon RF mount is LENS COLLECTION. Their are so few and so Expensive. Exactly opposite in SONY system.
I'd choose canon image quality anyday over Sony , but lens selection is biggest issue.
It's a sad day, this was a truly portable aps-c system with decent image quality. I'll probably hang on to my M6 until it dies.
2024 here. My main camera is a R5 with lots of heavy L series lenses but just bought two M5's. One converted to IR and the other to use for longer hikes when lugging the R5, lenses and a large tripod gets a bit much. I think the M5 is a great little camera consider what you can get them for now.
I have two of the original M bodies, along with an M6, an M6 MkII and an M50 with a decent selection of EF-M lenses. I wont be parting with them, will keep using them alongside my RF system and my EOS DSLRs. I will use them til they don't work. Every time I have sold or rid myself of a camera, in the past, I eventually regret it and wish I had kept it! Dead system or not, it fills a niche in my varied kit.
I bought into the M system almost 4 years ago, upgrading to an M50 from a Rebel T5. At the time it seemed like the logical choice - I could keep using all my EF lenses and get access to some nice compact primes too. I've put a lot of mileage on that body over the course of many adventures, but recently gave in to GAS and added a full frame body and lenses to my toolkit. Unfortunately for Canon, my choice went to one of their competitors.
If Canon had handled the RF-S rollout differently, I wouldn't have even thought about switching brands. A few years earlier and I would have gone straight to RF-S from EF-S. Or if they had more agressively ported over their EF-M lenses or figured out some sort of backwards compatible upgrade path from EF-M (body with a switcheable mount?), I would have probably jumped to RF-S when they released the R50.
I'll keep the M50, 22mm, and 32mm on hand for times I want a camera I can easily carry in a coat pocket. I just love the portability with great image quality of that setup. The rest of the EF and EF-M lenses I bought over the years I'm either selling or have sold. Eventually, of course, something better will come along or my M50 and lenses will wear out. Maybe at that point I'll pick up an R50 or one of its successors. But, because of how Canon handled the transition to RF, I'll be closely looking at every brand and picking the one that I think best fits my needs instead of just blindly following the brand I started with.
No matter what happens, though, I'll always have good memories of using my EF-M system. I'll miss it once it's gone.
Great vid as usual. Canon are the very epitome of a company that doesn’t know what it is doing. Back in the day, the EF/EF-S divide worked. The M mount replaced the EF-S well, but the buffoons at the top have messed it up. Restricting third party, killing the obvious pro-Sumer line and muddling the Pro-Body name with cheap looking offerings. These are all indications of an R &D department out of control. I was a lifelong professional Canon shooter…. They’re the last manufacturer I’d think of turning to now.
Somehow being the most popular camera brand in the world is "not knowing what it is doing" lol
@@Skux720Name recognition for brands can last a long time, maybe moreso in technical spaces, but what children see now is a host of other brands in the hands of most pro shooters and so when those children grow up, these seeds will turn into a dwindling market share for Canon, and I say this as someone that collects Canon cameras...
@@Skux720 I thought everyone agreed that the most popular camera brand is actually Sony for their top AF performance, being Canon a close second.
@@lionheart4424not according to sales
@@martinhommel9967 well, you have a point that based on the latest reports Canon is winning with more sales. Canon and Sony have been usually toe to toe up until this year if I am not mistaken.
The m50 with the 22mm f2 was my first ILC camera. It was a very handy and portable set up. I've since moved on to a Sony a7iii, but that m50 was a good camera for me and I learned a lot shooting with it.
I use an EOS M6 as my regular carry around pocket camera, does the job nicely. I only bought the kit lens and the tiny macro lens.
I have a soft spot for the M50. It had some flaws but was real joy to use. So I w‘ont selling mine. Unfortunately there was never a good standard zoom lens like a sigma 17-70 2.8-4 or 17-55. Adapting lenses was never a solution on this very compact system.
You're missing the best part of this EOSM and Canon DSLRs. MAGIC LANTERN makes these relevant today as a CINEMA camera for students and enthusiasts of cinematic videography. From Anamorphic aspect ratios,14-bit, Waveform, False Color, features for free no other camera comes clise for cinematic value.
It's high time Canon EOS RP saw a price cut!
M100 + 11-22mm is still my best solution for ultrawide photos. No one (Fuji, Sony, Nikon) have so beatiful lens.
I really loved my M50. I have moments still after selling mine over 4 years ago where I wish I had it still. It was just a fun camera to have.
Still love my first and only camera. The eos m3.
Rather than decreasing in value, I think this camera series may increase in value for awhile. It's small and great for beginners. Though limited in mounts, what's available might be enough for somebody starting out.
Doubt it will increase in price. I just sold my Nikon V1 recently. Didn't get much for it. But at least it still has some value. The later someone sells it, the risk the camera doesn't work anymore increases.
These wont increase in price. If it would work that way as you think, the samsung NX series would go for skyhigh prices at this point, while in reality you cant really sell them as everyone knows its a dead system.
I see. I was thinking that they’re pretty popular cameras so the demand would increase while supply decreases.
They already are increasing in value, mostly because of the cult following of people using Magic Lantern on them for video.
I've been using an M50 Mk2 for 3 years now and I will use it until it dies. Heck, I might even browse eBay, KEH, or MPB for another working body. It's light, it shoots great photos, it has a lot of Autofocus points, it's just a great piece of kit IMO
We still have a M5. It is my wife's camera and still meets her needs. I had hoped it would be a good second camera for me with the EF adapter, but the EF L series lenses dwarfed the camera. No need to replace it though since she is happy. If it breaks I'll have fun searching for something new for her though.
I have the m50 and I use it since 2019 a lot - still like it very much but I only use the efm 22mm and otherwise ef lenses with adapter :)
I just need one more m10 for
my daughter so they can go on a journey with their sisters all with the same lovely small kit. Those with the OG EOS M, update your software and AF improves a tad. Lovely camera system in my opinion. Let’s hope RFS gets some outstanding fast glass
Like everyone else, I love the 22mm f2 lens. I use it with the M2 and love having an apsc sensor in such a small package. Sure, the R series is great as a main camera, but the M still has its place too 😭.
Yeah, M3, M5 and M6II for me. Love that eye piece that flipped up on the M3 & M6II. I also had every Canon-branded M lens. Sad to see it go!
I have the original M and the last M6II. The 32mm 1.4 is amazing.
What an unfortunate! As for apsc, the ef-m is definitely better than rf, rf mount diameter is so large, meaning there won't be any small cameras or small lenses like 22mm f2 from Canon any more. They are the only reasons I still want to consider Canon.
For travel and some landscape photography, I love the ef-m range of lenses with the M6 mk2. I will keep using them for the foreseeable future. Not interested in the R range.
I don't consider keeping my EOS-M100 and M6 Mk2 as a bad idea. I like it do much that I will use them until the end of their lives. Sad that Canon has decided to discontinue them. An ideal system gor street photography and travel. Much better than the Csnon APS-C R mount system. They are just too bulky..
Over the last 3 years I have also bought a few excellent TTArtisan EOS-M lenses namely the 17mm f/1.4, 35mm f/1.4 and 50mm f/1.2. Works great on them.
Thanks Christopher. I had an EOS M50 for about a month, before being tempted by the Fuji system and ultimately swapping it for an X-T2. I brought the Canon with the additional 22mm f/2 pancake lens which was a cracker. I lost money as you always do but thankfully this was offset by the X-T2 being heavily discounted due to the X-T3 being launched. It's a real shame about the Canon M series 😔. If it could have perked the interest of independent lens manufacturers things could have worked out differently.
Edit: Oops 😬 I'd no idea the M system was reasonably supported by the 3rd party. I suppose I'd lost interest before looking further at the time. Sorry folks
I still use my M, M3, M6ii and minidisc recorders.. i will be trying magic lantern on an M to see how it handles. Nice review.
I bought the M5 for a song when Canon were discontinuing it, and that worked great for my "grab and go" kit along with the 18-150mm, 11-22mm, and 32mm. I agree that I wish that Canon would "clone" the 32mm for the RF. That is a beautiful little lens! My hiking pack now has an R7 in it, and while I have beautiful RF glass for my full frame kit, I still want decent, smaller lenses for hitting the mountain trails.
The fact that the E and Z (and F mount) lenses were designed to be interchangable between formats is what I think finally got Canon to come around on this. Even Canon had different versions of their full frame EF mount over the years (while the Nikon F mount largely stayed the same, although they did add electronics to more modern lenses but the overall mount diameter and mounting system remained the same since about the 60's and so for about the past 60 years roughly).
My thought is that the EOS M was Canon's attempt to fend off people going to Sony APSC cameras such as the the a6000 series and I think Canon did an OK job at keeping people in the canon system, even though the Sony system likely sold loads more. But at least there was some third party support for EOS M too. It's just I think Canon came around on the mount thing and that to make a unified mount system (between APSC and FF) they needed to just go with the now new RF mount and make a body around that (which they did in the form of the R100, R50, R10 and R7 cameras).
I think the beauty of the EOS m though was it's size. It's a small camera you literally can put in your pocket (none of the EOS R APSC cameras are that small).
One thing to note is that while Nikon DID have a mirrorless camera, it was only a 1" sensor versus the EOS M and Sony E which where APSC. The Z50 is Nikon's first actual APSC mirrorless camera.
I don't knokw if Canon can adapt the EOS M lenses to the RF mount though, but maybe...? As for the internals, i believe that the EOS M in some respects does live on in the form of the R100 as I think it has the older sensor and processor found in some of the later EOS M models essentially making it a modernized EOS M camera that takes RF lenses. My guess is that Canon WON'T bother with EOS M at all, as they likely want you to buy R lenses obviously. I think the reason Canon ISN'T currently allowing R lenses from third parties (even though they say they "do" through contracts) is that they likely got burned (a bit like Nikon) by the third parties when the third parties started offering competitive options at half the price. Canon likely didn't like that and wasn't going to let that happen again, but Nikon I think has realized the value of third party offerings and '"allows" it even the unlicensed third parties like Viltrox it seems, because you have to figure that while they may not buy your lenses, they will buy the camera and probably some accessories (batteries). They might buy some lenses, but for the more "premium" lenses they may opt for third party to save money, or in the case of Nikon, I think they are only allowing Sigma and Tamron to release lenses that do not directly compete with their OEM line.
I bought the M5 and EF-M lenses as a lighter alternative to my old 7D, it's a lovely little camera, loads of control in a tiny camera, I still use it despite the fact that I also own an R and R3
I totally agree. The M5 was a real delight to use. It felt like quality in a tiny package that actually worked well.
I shot three films on the M50 Mark I and absolutely loved it. The image quality is fantastic with the 22mm and Sigma 30mm. I learned so much about lenses and filmmaking using the easy to understand system. Still bummed that the mount has no compatibility with the R system.
A good friend owns a M6 MK2 and is really happy with it. Still quite a bit smaller and lighter than my R7 while still packing basically the same sensor and comparable specs (apart from the af). I was lucky to find a used M5 for 150 € where the sensor coating was rubbed off (still works perfectly fine). Really happy with it although i haven't purchased any EF-M lenses yet because i rather have lenses that i can use on my other Canon too.
The EF-M 22mm is worth it!
@@thew0nster its a nice lens for sure but i personally cant justify it being 4 times the price of the kit lens when this is not my main kit, just the compact one. i would go with a manual third party option but there are non in that focal lenght and size.
@@peterhansuwurst7852 the 22mm isn't four times the price of any lens, you can find it for $100, sometimes less. You must be thinking of something else.
EOS-M cameras are looking better than RF and RF-S cameras. The compactness is also unmatched.
I def enjoyed and miss my mini disc player
"There can only be one."
Short sighted by cannon. They should have taken the m mount in the retro niche direction.
I used the silly flash as a controller for off camera flash on regular Canon DSLRs.
The EOS M6II paired with the 22 & 32 prime are not too bad of a kit ...
Not ready to give up my M50 just yet!
Holding onto my M6 Mk. II until the day I die, tbh. It's my professional sports shooter and one of my first loves 💖
Loved the M6ii with the 22mm. I hope canon brings out something compact to rival the A7cr and a7cii, full frame, ibis and not canon crippled. The r8 just doesn’t cut it for me. I would like the R5 in a a7cii body. I can dream 😮😂
It's a shame the M series never got the recognition it deserved. I have an M50 I bought as a travel camera due to its small size and light weight. I even used it as a second camera to my 7D mkii when shooting a wedding.
The Canon 32mm f1.4 and Sigma 56mm F1.4 are two of my favorite lenses that I own, not just for the M50. Just came back from couple of weeks in Vietnam. I travel with 7kg hand luggage only so only took the Canon 10-22mm, 32mm F1.4 & 55 - 200mm. It was a great, compact light weight set up to travel with and the photos were amazing.
Now they are discontinued I'm hoping the 28mm F3.5 Macro may drop in price.
I just purchased an eosm to carry because my S1 is so big and heavy. I picked it up for £155 including flash and kit lens. I’m gonna trade the lens for a speedbooster so for a very inexpensive price, i have a tiny 18mp mirrorless close to full frame, with the added benefit of magic lantern. Bit of a good deal IMO!
I bought yesterday a used m200. in combination with the 22mm this will be my always in my pocket snap shot camera. I don´t know of any other combination in that price range and size with such good image quality.
Thanks for this (sad) video. I use an R5 as my work horse but I carry an M10 around most of the time and when pennies allow I’m looking to get an M6mk2 for my every day camera. Hopefully the bodies and lenses will drop in price. I suspect there’ll continue to be a cult of us that like the system and use them, much like minidisc is still a very active communityz
Now I am officially an antique camera collector. I have Canon SL2, EOS-M and M6 mark II.
see ya mate!
Canon: We must simplify our system. EF-M EF EF-S
Canon: Introduces the RF
Canon: And here is the RF-S
The EOS R system is a very different story as you say. They need to be quick though in releasing the licence for 3rd party lens support. Yes, that new mount might even outlast the internal combustion engine 🤫
TBH I thought EF-M was discontinued years ago even though I recently just picked up a used M6 as a compact travel camera 😂
I hope canon releases some primes for the Rfs mount.