I have a 2020 f250 6.7 powerstroke and recently bought a late 99 f250 7.3 with 223,000 miles and let me tell you I can't believe how nice it drives and not a single lick of blowby, Awesome truck !
@@christianandreev7317 they say they're the best year of the 7.3 . It all depends on what you want I guess . I bought it to keep the miles down on my 2020 and for the reliability of the 7.3.
So here’s my 2 cents. A superduty does everything better than the OBS fords. The interior, mirrors, door handles, seats. The only thing that an OBS does better is front wheel bearings. You really have to WANT an OBS in my opinion. You’re sacrificing a lot compared to the superduty platform in comfort and functionality, especially for the prices the OBS trucks are going for these days. They look good, but they are not better. One thing I wish ford would’ve stuck with on the superduty’s are the Alcoa wheels for the duallys.
I personally prefer the OBS trucks, while they may not have all the newer features, I feel that they are tougher trucks. Currently I own a 1991 7.3 IDI, and yes I know, so many will tell me it's a bad engine, but, mine is sitting at 491,000+ miles, all on the original engine and trans. I'm not gonna knock other people's preferences, but I love the OBS trucks.
I wonder if the IDIs are better OBS trucks than the powerstrokes. the issue with my 97 is that it's just so archaic and does a poor job at being a work truck compared to a super duty. super dutys turn better, have a deeper bed, and are designed around a diesel engine, instead of a powerstroke just being shoehorned in after the fact on the obs trucks. I've never heard anybody really say the IDI is a bad engine, either! that's wild that people have told you that. I think they're obsolete, but so is the 7.3 but that doesn't necessarily make em bad!
Had both, a 95 7.3 and currently own an 02 7.3. Hands down the super duty is a better truck in every way and I like older stuff better usually but the super duty’s ride better there’s no rattles or creaks in the interior obs interiors always feel like they’re about to fall apart and they usually do the doors are way more solid on a super duty the transmissions are better so if you’re buying one based off build quality and actually using it for work or long hauls go with a super duty 100 percent
Easiest question ever to answer…keep ‘em both and keep looking for a 3rd! I would never sell my 97 CCLB4x4 7.3, not even for a SD….I’d just add another :) (Thus I have a 97 Short bed Chevy, 72 K20 and the 97 7.3 lol.
My wife has a 02 Super Duty 7.3 Crew cab long bed that she loves and I have a 97 OBS 7.3 ex cab long bed but we also have a 01 5.9 Cummins ex cab short bed and a 03 5.9 crew cab long bed Cummins. I say Keep them all 🤣🤟
I noticed you still have the red brake switch in your OBS (the fire hazard ones). There's an update to that with a black sensor and a new pigtail. Amazon has them from Motorcraft for like $20. I swapped mine out in my 94 and promptly mounted a fire extinguisher between the driver seat and the door lol
I have a superduty 7.3 coupled with a zf6 and it is the best truck I've ever owned. Minor general maintenance and these trucks just keep going I'll never part with mine.
I just bought my first truck a year ago it’s a 2001 f250 with the 7.3. Love it. Very capable truck, so far no issues other than about 8 month ago I had to replace starter, which is hardly really even an isssue to be honest. More normal maintenance
Actually I shouldn’t say no issues, your comment about the door locks being better on the OBS reminded me, my driver door will not unlock (or lock) by turning the key OR by pressing the button on the interior. I have to get in thru the passenger side. Will fix it whenever I get around to it but for now I’m just getting in from the wrong side.
@@lgrw9883 ckassic, my obs wouldn't open any doors with the key and one day the a tubler in the ignition fell and locked up, ended up replacing the ignition and all the locks. Super cheep and easy. Got to love the old school technology.
I've got a 2000 ford f250 7.3 and I love it takes a lickin keeps on tickin. in my opinion the 7.3 is the best diesel engine ford ever had second one is the 6.7
got a 97 obs w/ stroke. i have had it 19 years. i got sick of rear brakes and fuel bowl. i replaced rear end w a2001 f-250 rear end with disc brakes and 2001 front rotorz. 01 rotors fit 97 spindle but are thicker so you must turn down a few hundreths of an inch or use old pads to fit caliper over disc. but it worked beautifuly. steers greatstopps even better than ij expected. smooth and controlled . now can use late model wheels . i used 2001 f-250 alloy wheels. also built a regulated return, flow thru ,fuel system and threw out fords fuel bowl assembly. electric pump and fuel filter / water trap now under cab and clean. has 50 psi at key on before you even crank. starts immediately . cool benefit of rear end was 3/73 gear and limited slip. disc brakes are sooo much better than drums and way less problems. my truck has 316, 965 miles on original motor . runs very nice. needs a transmission now. no rust no rattles .everything in the cab works and cold air. mostly original. just a tough truck. well made.
I want to swap out the drums on my axel as well thanks for stopping in sorry to hear about your dad's truck that is why I started this you tube thing to show people you can do your own maintenance
@@CentralOregonShenanigans right .thats a service to the public! thank you. yea that rear end swap was easier than i thought and wish i had done it sooner. i fiddled with those drums for years . don't give up the obs .you'll regret it.
I love the look of the obs. I currently own a 2008 f350 super duty regular cab 8' bed 4x4 with the 6.4 automatic with manual hubs and manual transfer case. I love it. My previous truck was a 1992 f350 dually crew cab long bed with the idi 7.3 and I loved that truck. In fact I wish I kept it. It was easy to work on and completely mechanical. Once running it would run without any battery power at all. I'm trying to find another one because I am a little concerned about the cost fixing anything major on my 2008. I purchased it with 80,000 miles on it and I now have almost 150,000 miles and it still runs strong. But you never know.
I just bought 1997 f250 Two weeks ago I drive it 1600 miles back home .. runs great only 190 k miles .. I love my new truck .. one owner .. I like the sound that makes purr 😻 purr
It’s a very tough choice between these two pickups, the super duty’s have so much to offer but it’s like you said, the OBS is super cool too! It’s so hard to choose!
Y had a 97 but changed for a 2000 superduty I don't regret it at all, I've used it to for work and to pull a trailer about half the time my 2000 got to over 600000 miles with little mantainence
if you buy a hydro bost for a 1996 or 1997 f450 they bolt right in to the obs that is what i will be doing to mine i will say the hydroboost definitely is better. so me swapping over to hydroboost and bigger injectors and turbo with a tune i think the obs fairs well especially a clean one and i love both super duty and obs but the obs has something about it that makes me like it more
96-97 OBS are quickly becoming sought after classics. Where I live, a clean crewcab f-350 will easily fetch a higher price than the equivalent SD. Other than the nostalgia and classic investment, the SD takes the cake. Practicality and comfort, go SD. U want an awsome head turner of a classic truck for years to come? Go OBS.
Dude...I just experienced this today! I have a 2002 F350 XLT Super Duty 7.3l diesel, Crew Cab, 4wd, short bed, leather interior, carpet, etc. I just purchased a 1997 F250 XLT, 5.8l gas, Extended Cab, 4wd, long bed with vinyl floor, manual transmission, and old cloth bench seat. The 2002 is three times the truck for towing and gets better gas mileage, but the OBS is pure Ford truck porn. A thing of beauty that is not really good at anything! I am keeping both because I too, have a Ford truck problem!
My first truck was an obs now I have a super duty. I really want to get rid of the super duty and get an obs again. The OBS Fords are way more comfortable inside. When I had the OBS it was an XLT with a bench seat which was super super comfortable. My super duty has bucket seats it's a Lariat and it's not as comfortable.
problem with the Hydroboost system only becomes an issue when you replace the steering gearbox and the warranty wants you to install an inline filter between the gearbox and pump and you start repeatedly blowing filters apart while driving. When I replaced my gearbox I gave up after blowing up 4 or 5 filters and instead voided my warranty by running it without a filter
About fuel: I have a 94' lightning which has the same fuel system as the truck you have there, since its a "tuner" truck you are correct it runs lean. I have to run 3 fuel pumps one being inline with the fuel system, the other problem is people can't buy a whole kit to convert to one tank, the guy who sells it requires you to buy his intake and shit first.
I own both, can't let the OBS go. The OBS looks great, but that's it. I actually like everything else more on the 02 chassis anti-twist in ditches / interior room much bigger. The OBS looks better but the 02 seems to handle twisting / off-roading better with less frame twist and noise.
Im not knocking Hydroboost. I plan to upgrade my 88 Supercab eventually when my vacuum brakes die on it.....however, they aren't dying. Still running the factory vacuum pump. Im the 2nd owner. Had it since 93,000 mile on it. Are there any vacuum accessories on the late model, or is everything controlled electronically? I much prefer to have vacuum diaphragm actuated climate controls. They are reliable and you don't have to worry about replacing electronics just to get your heat or air working.
I would love bolth, i got a 95 obs with the intercooler upgrade, injectors, bigger turbo, and a tune. I would love a super dutie aswell, main thing its not a 6.0! Love everything 7.3
@@0xc1d34 for sure new trucks suck, have you driven one? No power, shitty mpg, untill you tune it and delete the egr, deff, and all the crap they put on the thing. The EPA has destroyed the industry for money making purposes. The matrix is real.
I would rather have the improved power of the powerstroke but those OBS are damn sexy. I would much rather have a 6 speed and I tried to buy one but I can't find one I can afford right now. If I were in your shoes I would keep both.
Bro called a TTB front end a "scissor F150 setup".....lol. Made me chuckle. My 88 F250 has the Dana50 TWIN TRACTION BEAM setup, and yes, you are right, it rides like a turd on anything that isn't smooth. TTBs ride really nicely with coil spring setup. Im building a ball joint and a king pin Dana 60 right now. I bought the kingpin first, then found a 97 Ball joint axle and decided to go with it because it has the bolt on brake caliper knuckles. The knuckles on the 97 look way beefier than a stock kingpin anyway. Kingpins are starting to fade in popularity because parts are getting harder and more expensive to get.
For me if I had to choose, it would keep the OBS if at all possible just due to the simplicity and reliability, unless I absolutely needed more power for towing. I think towing needs would be the only deciding factory.
I have a 97 tuned and a 02 f350 7.3. I like my 02 alot more. The 97 rides like a stiff board but its also lifted. My 02 has over 400k and my 97 has 250k. My 97 is also intercooled
OBS’s not having the granny low gear like the ZF6 in the SD keeps them from being a real serious truck to haul with. You’ll still see some guys running 7.3 SD’s with the ZF6 pulling hotshot flatbeds or 3-car wedges. They don’t have the power of the newer stuff but still get it done. Very rarely you’ll see an ole F-Super Duty OBS still working
I wish it was possible to start a company that just builds a truck like these (not ford obviously) but low tech diesel trucks with just the features people want and none of the extra crap / emissions.
Twice I missed a gear and broke every rockers arm off of one side so I learned to Granny shift it when I took it up that high and it worked like a dream
’ve got two questions about the transmission: the knob only shows gears 1-4, plus “R” for reverse, plus “L”, plus one more gear in the upper right-hand corner of the knob that I can’t make out. What’s that gear in the upper right hand corner, and what’s the “L” stand for?I’ve heard these ZF6s are great, but do you really have 6 gears to run through if I’m seeing just 1-4 written on the knob?
My biggest gripe with the 10th gen and up was the motors being crammed under the cab. I should be able to reach behind the motor and undo the bellhousing bolts from up top when changing the clutch. It will take an act of god for me to part with my 95 half ton, and by that I mean death.
I bought a 1997 f350 with a 7.3. Not rust free, but original condition and 170000 mi. I think OBS is my favorite truck but non intercooled, small turbo and manual fuel pump is definitely a drawback. Love all Fords since I was born into a Ford loving family.
I had a 88 F350 crew cab long bed dually with a 460 automatic, still have my 1999 F250 supercab shortbed V10 automatic and my 2004 F350 6.0 automatic super cab long bed. For looks the 2004, for comfort the 2004, for quickness the 1999, for interior room the 1988, for fuel mileage the 2004, for dependability the 1999. Best overall, the 2004 F350 dually 6.0. All of these trucks are 2 Wheel Drive.
Drum brakes actually work very well they're just not good for people who ride their brakes a lot. Me being old school we always pump breaks hard oscillating so you didn't create a heat ring on your drum. But with the oversized shoes I've always had better breaking with the drums. Reason I know this is my back end looks up when it's empty drum versus disc.
My old trucks been parked in the field it has 430,000 on it 410 years guarantee used to spend it close to 5,000 RPMs it has amazing set for rods and crank 5,000 RPMs 5th gear for 4800 about 112 mph never turn it over 3,800 it could take off on its oil
Does your truck have the cruise control switch below the brake master cylinder in the engine compartment? My son had an 2002 f250 and that switch shorted and started a fire. Fords on that era had a problem with that. I think there was a recall on it where they gave you a new pigtale with a fuse. What would happen is, over time brake fluid would get on the switch and the switch would short. Our truck was just sitting, not running, when it caught fire. We don't know for certain thats what happened but it sounds suspicious. According to our mechanic, this was a problem with these trucks. I was devistated.
Wait, tow 10k?! That’s it? My 08 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD can tow that much! Man… I was looking to buy the 7.3 450 hoping to tow 25k! Well, that goes out of the window…
We have an 2001 F550 wrecker. How the heck do you keep the truck still with the Parking brake? If our truck is at any amount of angle loaded or empty the Parking Brake won't keep it still. We have talked to long time Ford Mechanics and they say the system is junk. Do you have any ideas? Probably going to end up with a MICO Brake System.
I have a '99 Superduty 7.3l w/ Zf6 manual and the manual transfercase lever on the floor...(165k mi) I don't think I would like it as much in an automatic trans and dash switched transfer case, but that is just imho...
Worst thing about the superduty is the cheap plastic door handles mine has been broken into 6 times . the older 7.3 had the forged rods. I like superduty because you could get the shortbed f350
Great video! I'm surprised that more folks hadn't done one...good for you! I had a 1997 F250 Crew Short Box with the 460/Auto. It was a thirsty girl, but one heck of a truck. Over time, though, the interior trim pieces degraded, got loose, broke, rattled, etc., and it just wasn't fun to work on (or ride in) because of all that. When I got my first Super Duty (2003 F250 5.4 4x4), was I impressed! The fit-and-finish of a Super Duty over an OBS cannot be compared. Everything in the Super Duty fit well, was robust, and there wasn't a rattle one in the entire truck. My current Super Duty (2001 F350 Dually Ext Cab 4x4 7.3 Long Bed) is the same way...everything in the interior fits well and no rattles. I never owned an OBS 7.3 so I can't say anything regarding the engines. Thanks again for the great video...brought back fond memories of my 97!
i just gave this truck to my Dad. he blew up his 2010 f 350 with v 10. it ate a spark plug and sent another one flyin. leave it to the 25 yr old truck to save the day! he only had 180k on f 350. his mistake was trusting the dealer to do what they charged him for. they never changed the plugs since new. Dade city fla ford dealer. i wontsay any names.
OBS PS had single shot injectors, they're louder. SD 7.3L had split shot injectirs, quieter. I AGREE, SINGLE TANK BETTER. ALSO prefer SD electric lift pump.
One thing I’m not a fan of on the super duty is from personal experience… while driving a 99 350 powerstroke 4wd 4dr longbed a couple months back one of my pulleys on the belt tensioner sheared off… luckily I wasn’t on the highway or towing!!! Once that belt stops spinning you lose brakes and steering. I’ve owned plenty of cars and trucks with no power steering so it’s not to bad but losing the brakes in that big mutha is a bad scene. Them genius engineer’s didn’t fully think that one through!!!Needless to say I replaced the fan belt the whole tensioner unit both pulleys and the idler pulley as well for insurance 😂.
I have a 2020 f250 6.7 powerstroke and recently bought a late 99 f250 7.3 with 223,000 miles and let me tell you I can't believe how nice it drives and not a single lick of blowby, Awesome truck !
How much did you buy your 99 f250 for?
$10,000 and the bodies pretty nice on it aswell . There's some rust above the rear wheel wells but thats pretty much it
is this 99 f250 worth it?
@@christianandreev7317 they say they're the best year of the 7.3 . It all depends on what you want I guess . I bought it to keep the miles down on my 2020 and for the reliability of the 7.3.
@@christianandreev7317 so I would say yes
I have a '97 OBS which now has seats from a 2016 Super Duty. Heated and cooled! Rides like a dream.
So here’s my 2 cents. A superduty does everything better than the OBS fords. The interior, mirrors, door handles, seats. The only thing that an OBS does better is front wheel bearings. You really have to WANT an OBS in my opinion. You’re sacrificing a lot compared to the superduty platform in comfort and functionality, especially for the prices the OBS trucks are going for these days. They look good, but they are not better. One thing I wish ford would’ve stuck with on the superduty’s are the Alcoa wheels for the duallys.
1986 f250 4x4 6.9idi been driving for 37 years have over 1 million miles. Never let me down amd getting ready to do a full restoration done
Thanks for the videos just picked up a 95 f250 7.3 4x4 199k for $2500. Just getting everything squared away
I personally prefer the OBS trucks, while they may not have all the newer features, I feel that they are tougher trucks. Currently I own a 1991 7.3 IDI, and yes I know, so many will tell me it's a bad engine, but, mine is sitting at 491,000+ miles, all on the original engine and trans. I'm not gonna knock other people's preferences, but I love the OBS trucks.
I wonder if the IDIs are better OBS trucks than the powerstrokes. the issue with my 97 is that it's just so archaic and does a poor job at being a work truck compared to a super duty. super dutys turn better, have a deeper bed, and are designed around a diesel engine, instead of a powerstroke just being shoehorned in after the fact on the obs trucks. I've never heard anybody really say the IDI is a bad engine, either! that's wild that people have told you that. I think they're obsolete, but so is the 7.3 but that doesn't necessarily make em bad!
Had both, a 95 7.3 and currently own an 02 7.3. Hands down the super duty is a better truck in every way and I like older stuff better usually but the super duty’s ride better there’s no rattles or creaks in the interior obs interiors always feel like they’re about to fall apart and they usually do the doors are way more solid on a super duty the transmissions are better so if you’re buying one based off build quality and actually using it for work or long hauls go with a super duty 100 percent
Easiest question ever to answer…keep ‘em both and keep looking for a 3rd! I would never sell my 97 CCLB4x4 7.3, not even for a SD….I’d just add another :) (Thus I have a 97 Short bed Chevy, 72 K20 and the 97 7.3 lol.
My wife has a 02 Super Duty 7.3 Crew cab long bed that she loves and I have a 97 OBS 7.3 ex cab long bed but we also have a 01 5.9 Cummins ex cab short bed and a 03 5.9 crew cab long bed Cummins. I say Keep them all 🤣🤟
I noticed you still have the red brake switch in your OBS (the fire hazard ones). There's an update to that with a black sensor and a new pigtail. Amazon has them from Motorcraft for like $20. I swapped mine out in my 94 and promptly mounted a fire extinguisher between the driver seat and the door lol
I have a superduty 7.3 coupled with a zf6 and it is the best truck I've ever owned. Minor general maintenance and these trucks just keep going I'll never part with mine.
I just bought my first truck a year ago it’s a 2001 f250 with the 7.3. Love it. Very capable truck, so far no issues other than about 8 month ago I had to replace starter, which is hardly really even an isssue to be honest. More normal maintenance
Actually I shouldn’t say no issues, your comment about the door locks being better on the OBS reminded me, my driver door will not unlock (or lock) by turning the key OR by pressing the button on the interior. I have to get in thru the passenger side. Will fix it whenever I get around to it but for now I’m just getting in from the wrong side.
@@lgrw9883 ckassic, my obs wouldn't open any doors with the key and one day the a tubler in the ignition fell and locked up, ended up replacing the ignition and all the locks. Super cheep and easy. Got to love the old school technology.
I've got a 2000 ford f250 7.3 and I love it takes a lickin keeps on tickin. in my opinion the 7.3 is the best diesel engine ford ever had second one is the 6.7
Love the 7.3. Strong engine and good puller. Love them Fords!!
Peace my friend!!
got a 97 obs w/ stroke. i have had it 19 years. i got sick of rear brakes and fuel bowl. i replaced rear end w a2001 f-250 rear end with disc brakes and 2001 front rotorz. 01 rotors fit 97 spindle but are thicker so you must turn down a few hundreths of an inch or use old pads to fit caliper over disc. but it worked beautifuly. steers greatstopps even better than ij expected. smooth and controlled . now can use late model wheels . i used 2001 f-250 alloy wheels. also built a regulated return, flow thru ,fuel system and threw out fords fuel bowl assembly. electric pump and fuel filter / water trap now under cab and clean. has 50 psi at key on before you even crank. starts immediately . cool benefit of rear end was 3/73 gear and limited slip. disc brakes are sooo much better than drums and way less problems. my truck has 316, 965 miles on original motor . runs very nice. needs a transmission now. no rust no rattles .everything in the cab works and cold air. mostly original. just a tough truck. well made.
I want to swap out the drums on my axel as well thanks for stopping in sorry to hear about your dad's truck that is why I started this you tube thing to show people you can do your own maintenance
@@CentralOregonShenanigans right .thats a service to the public! thank you. yea that rear end swap was easier than i thought and wish i had done it sooner. i fiddled with those drums for years . don't give up the obs .you'll regret it.
I love the look of the obs. I currently own a 2008 f350 super duty regular cab 8' bed 4x4 with the 6.4 automatic with manual hubs and manual transfer case. I love it. My previous truck was a 1992 f350 dually crew cab long bed with the idi 7.3 and I loved that truck. In fact I wish I kept it. It was easy to work on and completely mechanical. Once running it would run without any battery power at all. I'm trying to find another one because I am a little concerned about the cost fixing anything major on my 2008. I purchased it with 80,000 miles on it and I now have almost 150,000 miles and it still runs strong. But you never know.
I just bought 1997 f250 Two weeks ago I drive it 1600 miles back home .. runs great only 190 k miles .. I love my new truck .. one owner .. I like the sound that makes purr 😻 purr
I own a early 99 f250 7.3 powerstroke with 273k miles and I love it first year of super duty there pretty durable
It’s a very tough choice between these two pickups, the super duty’s have so much to offer but it’s like you said, the OBS is super cool too! It’s so hard to choose!
Y had a 97 but changed for a 2000 superduty I don't regret it at all, I've used it to for work and to pull a trailer about half the time my 2000 got to over 600000 miles with little mantainence
if you buy a hydro bost for a 1996 or 1997 f450 they bolt right in to the obs that is what i will be doing to mine i will say the hydroboost definitely is better. so me swapping over to hydroboost and bigger injectors and turbo with a tune i think the obs fairs well especially a clean one and i love both super duty and obs but the obs has something about it that makes me like it more
Why so negative on the IDI? I've had nothing but luck with them and super easy to work on.
96-97 OBS are quickly becoming sought after classics. Where I live, a clean crewcab f-350 will easily fetch a higher price than the equivalent SD. Other than the nostalgia and classic investment, the SD takes the cake.
Practicality and comfort, go SD. U want an awsome head turner of a classic truck for years to come? Go OBS.
Dude...I just experienced this today! I have a 2002 F350 XLT Super Duty 7.3l diesel, Crew Cab, 4wd, short bed, leather interior, carpet, etc. I just purchased a 1997 F250 XLT, 5.8l gas, Extended Cab, 4wd, long bed with vinyl floor, manual transmission, and old cloth bench seat. The 2002 is three times the truck for towing and gets better gas mileage, but the OBS is pure Ford truck porn. A thing of beauty that is not really good at anything! I am keeping both because I too, have a Ford truck problem!
I agree, owned a BUNCH of both.
GET A LATE '99-'00.
Second '00-'03 7.3L
In OBS I'd take a '93-'94 IDI Turbo EVERTTIME!!!
My first truck was an obs now I have a super duty. I really want to get rid of the super duty and get an obs again. The OBS Fords are way more comfortable inside. When I had the OBS it was an XLT with a bench seat which was super super comfortable. My super duty has bucket seats it's a Lariat and it's not as comfortable.
problem with the Hydroboost system only becomes an issue when you replace the steering gearbox and the warranty wants you to install an inline filter between the gearbox and pump and you start repeatedly blowing filters apart while driving. When I replaced my gearbox I gave up after blowing up 4 or 5 filters and instead voided my warranty by running it without a filter
I like the OBS it's easier to find a wheel to fit it you can carry one spare to fit the truck and the trailer back when 8 lug was an 8 lug
About fuel: I have a 94' lightning which has the same fuel system as the truck you have there, since its a "tuner" truck you are correct it runs lean. I have to run 3 fuel pumps one being inline with the fuel system, the other problem is people can't buy a whole kit to convert to one tank, the guy who sells it requires you to buy his intake and shit first.
I own both, can't let the OBS go. The OBS looks great, but that's it. I actually like everything else more on the 02 chassis anti-twist in ditches / interior room much bigger. The OBS looks better but the 02 seems to handle twisting / off-roading better with less frame twist and noise.
OBS 7.3 has that vintage truck look I love, but the SD 7.3 is the first Ford truck I owned that actually lived up to the Made Ford Tough slogan.
Im not knocking Hydroboost. I plan to upgrade my 88 Supercab eventually when my vacuum brakes die on it.....however, they aren't dying. Still running the factory vacuum pump. Im the 2nd owner. Had it since 93,000 mile on it. Are there any vacuum accessories on the late model, or is everything controlled electronically? I much prefer to have vacuum diaphragm actuated climate controls. They are reliable and you don't have to worry about replacing electronics just to get your heat or air working.
Damn I love both of these
Both my dream trucks as well
My late '99 has floor x-case shifter. LOVE IT!
OBS doors are a pain, especially when it locks you out!!
In my opinion looks go to the OBS but ride comfort goes to the super duty
I have a ‘02 F-350 7.3. The truck has over 300k miles and runs great.
Should I get a 2002 Ford F350 dually? (I tow a lot)
I would love bolth, i got a 95 obs with the intercooler upgrade, injectors, bigger turbo, and a tune. I would love a super dutie aswell, main thing its not a 6.0! Love everything 7.3
Though once a 6.0 is studded n egr deleted its pulling better than a new truck.
@@0xc1d34 for sure new trucks suck, have you driven one? No power, shitty mpg, untill you tune it and delete the egr, deff, and all the crap they put on the thing. The EPA has destroyed the industry for money making purposes. The matrix is real.
I’ve owned both and I would keep the obs, I sold my 6.0 all manual truck to get my 97
I would rather have the improved power of the powerstroke but those OBS are damn sexy. I would much rather have a 6 speed and I tried to buy one but I can't find one I can afford right now. If I were in your shoes I would keep both.
New subscriber! I have a 7.3 ! Great content bro!!!!!
Welcome to the channel
@@CentralOregonShenanigans thanks ! Imma huge 7.3 fan !
Bro called a TTB front end a "scissor F150 setup".....lol. Made me chuckle. My 88 F250 has the Dana50 TWIN TRACTION BEAM setup, and yes, you are right, it rides like a turd on anything that isn't smooth. TTBs ride really nicely with coil spring setup. Im building a ball joint and a king pin Dana 60 right now. I bought the kingpin first, then found a 97 Ball joint axle and decided to go with it because it has the bolt on brake caliper knuckles. The knuckles on the 97 look way beefier than a stock kingpin anyway. Kingpins are starting to fade in popularity because parts are getting harder and more expensive to get.
For me if I had to choose, it would keep the OBS if at all possible just due to the simplicity and reliability, unless I absolutely needed more power for towing. I think towing needs would be the only deciding factory.
OBS F350 PS always had front Dana 60.
ALL SDs had Dana 50 from '99-02 had front Dana 50 UNLESS a dually.
ALL '03-up SD front Dana 60.
I can go the OBS and Super Duty 7.3 Powerstroke which is my favorite dream trucks.
I have a 97 tuned and a 02 f350 7.3. I like my 02 alot more. The 97 rides like a stiff board but its also lifted. My 02 has over 400k and my 97 has 250k. My 97 is also intercooled
Why not sell the 97 then
OBS’s not having the granny low gear like the ZF6 in the SD keeps them from being a real serious truck to haul with. You’ll still see some guys running 7.3 SD’s with the ZF6 pulling hotshot flatbeds or 3-car wedges. They don’t have the power of the newer stuff but still get it done. Very rarely you’ll see an ole F-Super Duty OBS still working
Make a truck to rule them all with the pair!! I’m serious 🧐
It would make for a great collection of vidz!!!
I wish it was possible to start a company that just builds a truck like these (not ford obviously) but low tech diesel trucks with just the features people want and none of the extra crap / emissions.
Twice I missed a gear and broke every rockers arm off of one side so I learned to Granny shift it when I took it up that high and it worked like a dream
’ve got two questions about the transmission: the knob only shows gears 1-4, plus “R” for reverse, plus “L”, plus one more gear in the upper right-hand corner of the knob that I can’t make out. What’s that gear in the upper right hand corner, and what’s the “L” stand for?I’ve heard these ZF6s are great, but do you really have 6 gears to run through if I’m seeing just 1-4 written on the knob?
If the obs is struggling with 10k towing there might be something wrong
With a tune and some suspension and injector improvements they can get close to 20k. People with stock 73s have been knows to pull 20k.
I just bought a 93 f350 7.3 idi dually single cab I love it
I love them both and currently own both lol. 2000 ext cab and a 93 reg cab.
Wing window delete? I do not understand why! I love the wing windows in my obs. It's the best way to cool the truck down quickly.
My biggest gripe with the 10th gen and up was the motors being crammed under the cab. I should be able to reach behind the motor and undo the bellhousing bolts from up top when changing the clutch. It will take an act of god for me to part with my 95 half ton, and by that I mean death.
I personally think keeping the super duty is worth especially considering what you could do with it down the line compared to the obs
I bought a 1997 f350 with a 7.3. Not rust free, but original condition and 170000 mi. I think OBS is my favorite truck but non intercooled, small turbo and manual fuel pump is definitely a drawback. Love all Fords since I was born into a Ford loving family.
What headlights are in the 03 7.3
If you ever found out let me know. They look great and modern
Very well done man! That super duty is in fantastic shape! I agree, I like different features of both trucks👍
I had a 88 F350 crew cab long bed dually with a 460 automatic, still have my 1999 F250 supercab shortbed V10 automatic and my 2004 F350 6.0 automatic super cab long bed. For looks the 2004, for comfort the 2004, for quickness the 1999, for interior room the 1988, for fuel mileage the 2004, for dependability the 1999. Best overall, the 2004 F350 dually 6.0. All of these trucks are 2 Wheel Drive.
out of curiosity, could you swap the zf5 manual from the 97 in to the super duty?
ZF-6: BEST pickup trans EVER.
Have 3 6.0L ZF-6 and had a Duramax ZF-6.
6.0L SUUUUCKS but ZF-6: GREAT!
Wish i could figure out a way to post a pic of my OBS FSeries Quigley w/ 29,800 miles for you. She is all original and a beauty.
Send it to Centraloregonshenanigans@gmail.com
Drum brakes actually work very well they're just not good for people who ride their brakes a lot. Me being old school we always pump breaks hard oscillating so you didn't create a heat ring on your drum. But with the oversized shoes I've always had better breaking with the drums. Reason I know this is my back end looks up when it's empty drum versus disc.
I have a 2002 XLT 7.3l power stroke dully 1 ton It pulls better then my dad's Duramax I love my truck
I like the 02 and 03 better than the OBS. So I bought one!!
My old trucks been parked in the field it has 430,000 on it 410 years guarantee used to spend it close to 5,000 RPMs it has amazing set for rods and crank 5,000 RPMs 5th gear for 4800 about 112 mph never turn it over 3,800 it could take off on its oil
Does your truck have the cruise control switch below the brake master cylinder in the engine compartment? My son had an 2002 f250 and that switch shorted and started a fire. Fords on that era had a problem with that. I think there was a recall on it where they gave you a new pigtale with a fuse. What would happen is, over time brake fluid would get on the switch and the switch would short. Our truck was just sitting, not running, when it caught fire. We don't know for certain thats what happened but it sounds suspicious. According to our mechanic, this was a problem with these trucks. I was devistated.
it’s the james and kyle show
I think I’ve seen your property and this is the first video I’ve seen of yours
Dig em all! Your gonna sell the obs!
No it's not going anywhere I sold other things to make it work
Is the obs factory suspension and what size tire are your running
would you please clean the interior of that 97
Wait, tow 10k?! That’s it? My 08 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD can tow that much! Man… I was looking to buy the 7.3 450 hoping to tow 25k! Well, that goes out of the window…
We have an 2001 F550 wrecker. How the heck do you keep the truck still with the Parking brake? If our truck is at any amount of angle loaded or empty the Parking Brake won't keep it still. We have talked to long time Ford Mechanics and they say the system is junk. Do you have any ideas? Probably going to end up with a MICO Brake System.
I would just keep both the Super Duty and the OBS 🎉
I have a '99 Superduty 7.3l w/ Zf6 manual and the manual transfercase lever on the floor...(165k mi)
I don't think I would like it as much in an automatic trans and dash switched transfer case, but that is just imho...
Keep the OBS! Everything the SD offers plus more you can now add to the OBS.
Worst thing about the superduty is the cheap plastic door handles mine has been broken into 6 times . the older 7.3 had the forged rods. I like superduty because you could get the shortbed f350
the interior of the OBS fords are unmatched. and thats where your at and looking 90 percent of the time. and newer they get harder they are to fix
I like the International 4000s t444e.
I’m in Prineville with an OBS and a super duty maybe we should link up and play trucks sometime. 🏁
Enjoy those pmr rods! I wouldn't put to big of injectors in it.
I will keep both of them she just have to get over it. I have two super duties and a 84 bronco.
Great video! I'm surprised that more folks hadn't done one...good for you! I had a 1997 F250 Crew Short Box with the 460/Auto. It was a thirsty girl, but one heck of a truck. Over time, though, the interior trim pieces degraded, got loose, broke, rattled, etc., and it just wasn't fun to work on (or ride in) because of all that. When I got my first Super Duty (2003 F250 5.4 4x4), was I impressed! The fit-and-finish of a Super Duty over an OBS cannot be compared. Everything in the Super Duty fit well, was robust, and there wasn't a rattle one in the entire truck. My current Super Duty (2001 F350 Dually Ext Cab 4x4 7.3 Long Bed) is the same way...everything in the interior fits well and no rattles. I never owned an OBS 7.3 so I can't say anything regarding the engines. Thanks again for the great video...brought back fond memories of my 97!
I honestly probably will buy another 7.3 but a dually 4x4 version next😮💨
youre in honeymoon stage with the new truck. give it time youll appreciate that 97 more
i just gave this truck to my Dad. he blew up his 2010 f 350 with v 10. it ate a spark plug and sent another one flyin. leave it to the 25 yr old truck to save the day! he only had 180k on f 350. his mistake was trusting the dealer to do what they charged him for. they never changed the plugs since new. Dade city fla ford dealer. i wontsay any names.
Had both superduty for me
For my use case I’d prefer an OBS… with a 460. Well, what do you know? Box checked. Both great pickups!
I was gonna say, a lot of both these trucks in Central Oregon 😂
This guy is so fucking chill
OBS PS had single shot injectors, they're louder.
SD 7.3L had split shot injectirs, quieter.
I AGREE, SINGLE TANK BETTER.
ALSO prefer SD electric lift pump.
If your wife is telling you that you need to choose to keep only one truck then I'd personally choose to keep both trucks and divorce the wife.😂
Why is the engine compartment of the super duty so much dirtier?
Friend had a '97 and I've got a '99. '97 was louder and rougher ride, more like a tractor. '99 is more comfortable.
One thing I’m not a fan of on the super duty is from personal experience… while driving a 99 350 powerstroke 4wd 4dr longbed a couple months back one of my pulleys on the belt tensioner sheared off… luckily I wasn’t on the highway or towing!!! Once that belt stops spinning you lose brakes and steering. I’ve owned plenty of cars and trucks with no power steering so it’s not to bad but losing the brakes in that big mutha is a bad scene. Them genius engineer’s didn’t fully think that one through!!!Needless to say I replaced the fan belt the whole tensioner unit both pulleys and the idler pulley as well for insurance 😂.
I work on my 96 f250. I prefer something easy to wrench on, i cuss much less. And no DEF in old diesels
You had a idi 🤯🤯🤯
I love my idi
And power Strokes had manual transfer cases there just harder to find base on what I seen. And crank 🪟 are just better 🤷