I built a 12.5 6mm ARC upper a couple of months ago. Love it. I average about 2350 fps with Hornady factory 108Match. 1moa or a little better @ 100YDS. I got a faxon barrel on sale, Trybe Defense BCG with Grendel Bolt, Radian Raptor SD, Aero Precision Atlas S-1 Handguard. Put it all in a spare Wilson Combat Upper receiver. Supervative arms Adjustable gas block topped off with a Huxwrx Ventum via Area 419 Hellfire muzzle device. I'm all in less than $650 on the upper. Not counting the silencer. No problem hitting a 5" plate at 300yds. Stacking tolerances My Ass! My Frankenupper shoots great. I usually set it on a Geiselle Superduy SBR lower with a Geissele SSA-E so that helps. I've got about 180 rounds on it without a hiccup. Tons of fun to shoot.
at 9000ft elevation, your pill still has 1000 ft/lbs force at 323 yards. It is a legal law requirement to hunt elk. Still has ~2035fps at impact at that distance, so plenty for expansion. eldm is known to be amazing on game.
I am glad I’m not the only one that had a problem with the magpul dust cover not working properly on a Noveske upper. I wound up shaving off some of the plastic on the dust cover and now it works just fine
Love the setup. 12.5 will be my first 6arc when i finally build one this summer. Just stating facts for the masses, cassette triggers are cool, they are great - and simple. The downside to cassette triggers are having issues with carbon build up and popped primers shutting the entire gun down. I know... I know... The odds of those things happening are extremely low. Im just telling you thats why you wont see sof guys running cassette triggers though. It does happen. Mission drives gear. Nothing wring with casette triggers, just keep that in mind when you're building
@@l337l0gan I've made 1st-round hits at 900yds with my 12" Grendel. I normally shoot steel starting at 400yds, then go to 780yds with about 90% hit rate in 5-7mph winds shooting 123gr ELD-M. I would seriously think about doing a 6.5 Grendel instead. You have 127+ factory loads to choose from, including 3 news ones from AAC. If you want 6mm ARC performance, just shoot the 100gr ELD-VT new load from Hornady. I de-edge, blend, and polish my barrel extension feed ramps, square the receiver face with a lapping tool, seal my gas blocks, and use the Bootleg adjustable gas carrier. Get a Rexus Grendel/ARC bolt no matter what route you go. Noveske makes great barrels as does Precision Firearms and several other companies. I've had excellent experiences with Lilja, PF, Noveske, Proof. I would love a complete Noveske Grendel Ghetto Blaster with 8.5" barrel. 8.5" is what I'm focusing on now with a new ultra-high velocity projectile in Grendel. Think 3050fps from a Grendel PDW.
I recently built a similar setup. Noveske 12.5 6arc , Badger CH, CMT 11.5 DRT rail surfire brake and 7.62 mini, vortex 3-18x44 strike eagle, B5 precision stock. Love it. I used the pinned noveske gas block and I guess I got lucky as it isn’t gassy at all. I am also getting sub MOA performance. Love the content. Im an avid watcher. 💪
You should try a Elftman cross bolt safety, it’s inherently ambi and super fast and quiet. It sometimes doesn’t work with certain triggers but I havnt experienced that myself
Just finished a Faxon 12.5 build, SA GB, JP Bolt, 51Fifty Handguard, BCM upper, aero lower, 1-8 optic, armaspec H3 SMB Buffer. Very curious on your velocities with the different loads that you offer.
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What kind of red dot is on top? I want that. I don’t know what it is but I like the way it looks. I kind of want to put an AEMS up there too but idk how to with my reptilia LPVO w/ 12 o’clock red dot setup. Guess I should have watched it.
I can't wait to get some of the VT ammo for my 6arc. What kind of point of impact shift are you seeing, when your rifle is zeroed for the 108's? I know going from the 108 eldm to the 103 eldx, there really isn't much of a difference.
I don't know about 6mm, but the 100gr ELD-VT in 6.5 Grendel is basically 6mm AR in a box without needing to make the change. I haven't been off-steel with it from 700-1000yds. I didn't even bother shooting it at 100yds. Ran the numbers through my program to get mv for a shorter barrel, plugged in all my atmospheric data, 1st-round connect at 700yds, 800yds, then I emptied the rest on the large 1000yd gong. Vertical is really tight. Others have stripped down the load after getting ES, and it was in really nice SDs/ES. Shoots really flat. I compared it with 6mm 103gr ELD-X and 108gr ELD-M Doppler Radar numbers, and they're ballistic equivalents. Kinda makes 6mm pointless. You can hand-load 100-110gr faster in Grendel due to piston area/bore ratio, with less chamber pressure.
Hell yeah nice set up , I have a similar 12.5 set up all Geissele parts with a faxon barrel. I’ve ran 103 Hornady Eldx and the new eldvt but saw fort Scott came out with a 95 g TUI 6 arc loading. Any experience or input with tui for hunting whitetail ?
@@txpredatorhunting 10 4 thanks , I don’t have any experience with him either I’ll probably stick to the eld or try something loaded with a Berger elite hunter
I've been shooting my 12" Grendel for the past 7 years as my main go-to blaster for anything I used to use 18" Grendel for. My preferred AR-15 of them all, and I've been shooting AR-15s, M-16s, M4s, or AR-10s dating back to 1987. I'm working with 10.5" and 8.5" Grendels now. Exciting stuff with some new projectiles in development.
Love your content and your honest insights. I like to ask what your opinions are on a 11.5 inch 6 arc ? I have a 16 inch 6 arc and looking to shrink up the 6ARC for same reason with the 80 grain Hornady. I saw that GQ armory had a 11 inch 6 ARC. Can u do a review on that some day?
@@txpredatorhuntingAwesome breakdown. I always love it when dudes critique the shorties without any trigger time behind them, but once you actually use them, you're sold and have to have one.
@@txpredatorhuntingHave you compared the Razor Gen 3 to the 1-10 AMG? I have the Razor and love it, but have been eyeballing that shorty 1-10x AMG along with the March.
I’ve got a Grendel and a 6.8 spc. I’m trying to stay away from chasing brass from more cartridges. What would your recommendation be for a brass catcher?
you never spoke about the BCG what are you running? Im currently building a 12.5 inch with a Centurion SS barrel and a Noveske DLC BCG. Im not sure if the bolt is a JP or a Noveske but it came with there carrier. I know the Older Noveske 6 ARC uppers came with JP enhanced headspace bolt.
Some of my favorite rifles are the junk drawer builds. I have Gucci builds, down to the cheapest rifles that can be found. At the end of the day, if it gets the job done , you should be proud of it. Different convo as far as reliable parts etc. But still .
15:37 lol that gap. I’d go crazy. Everyone doesn’t mind them busted up and scratched. But we want the build to be perfect to start. Seems like everyone is OCD that way.
Very interested about further performance testing in this barrel length. Considering swapping my 12.5" 5.56 for a 6ARC barrel. Would this work well as a "jack of all trades" rifle or would 16" be better?
@@txpredatorhunting Oklahoma hunting, long range plinking, hopefully never self defense. Before this video I was leaning 16” to avoid an extra stamp… I can’t afford multiple niche rifles so I’m wanting to choose a length that’s versatile
He's being quiet about it.. I posted a comment asking the same Q and it looks to have been deleted (unless I missed it looking for it).. they also didn't post it in the spec sheet in the description of the video.
Anyone have any luck running SA gas blocks under a 1.3in (most common these days) internal diameter hand guard? The rail in this video is advertised at 1.27in. I was going to run a clamp on SA block on a proof barrel but want to make sure there’s no rubbing.
I would like to see you do a build with the dealt team tactical 18 inch 6 arc barrel it's 99 bucks out the door I think a as low buck 6 arc build would be really cool and I think people would really like to see that because for us on a budget and wanting to know the cheapest way to get into a 1 moa 6 arc with only about 300 to 400 in a upper
I've run 1,000 rounds through my 14.5 noveske 6arc and my 12.5 noveske 6 arc and the difference is about 100 fps slower in my 12.5 vs my 14.5. With 108 eldm factory ammo. Both shoot lights out and you guys are sleeping on BRT gas tubes. Especially on 6arc
don't have it on arc but on shorty builds - doesn't fail, doesn't carbon lock. probably more expensive than a reduced opening gas tube should be but it's a simpler cheaper way to reduce gas on an overgassed rifle.
@@penn9363 only down fall I see is being locked in on a certain size at that price point. Where as you do have the option of adjusting on gas block. I’m familiar with the company, not t&e practices though. So price could be justified if the amount of testing reflects when allowing them to select the size. That said, I’d still prefer an adjustable gas block. In particular the ability for bleed off.
I'm using Bootleg adjustable gas carriers on all my short barrel CLGS & PLGS suppressed blasters. Been using it on 2x 12" Grendels I built in 2017, both with high efficiency TBAC cans. Both have been running great since 2017 on fully-suppressed position, using extra power action springs. I'm also liking what I'm seeing from RifleSpeed 12 position blocks with the extended cylinder mechanical advantage.
@@LRRPFco52 I bought bootleg for all my 6 arc builds but due to the BRT gas tubes Im running I have never had to adjust any of the carriers. I'm running Huxwrx Flow 6k cans on both builds.
6 ARC IS THE BEST AR guns out there. I have a 18" and a 12.5" both are so awesome! 6mm ARC cartridge is above and beyond, far superior in comparison to the 5.56 .
When you open with "Is it worth it to build a 12 inch six Arc as far as performance goes" a reasonable person would expect you to spend the majority of the video talking about performance of a 6 ARC in a 12in barrel. Instead you spent 19min talking about everything but performance, and that makes for a frustrating video.
6mm arc is just another failed attempt to dethrone 6.5 grendel. 6.8 spc, 224 valk, 300 blk, 6 arc. All tried yet none beat it. The 129gr eld beat any other ar15 cartridge in distance, and not to mention greater muzzle energy, wider bullet, more expansion, heavier. Uses the eame mags, same capacity. Easily reloadable, and works amazingly in short barrels
10 years ago Noveske was manufacturing a solid rifle. Now they are all about gimmicks and marketing with rifles like the “ghetto blaster”. I wish Noveske continued to manufacture quality the way LaRue has over the years. I would never want a Noveske manufactured today.
Waste of time and money. I would just have a 5.56 instead because it's proven in short barrel. AR15 isn't the most accurate rifle to start with. That being said, you can build one to moa. If I'm hunting or want a longer range with the AR15, I'm going with a 20 to 22in barrel. I like the 22arc, 6arc, and 6max, but 223/556 are proven especially in short barrel.
12" High Performance Intermediate cartridge AR-15 carbines are currently the pinnacle of AR-15 evolution. They easily exceed the performance of 20" 5.56 rifles in a shorter, lighter, more compact package.
cant wait to see what you think of the CAT stuff vs huxworks. suppressors. Dont care for their cringe style marketing but interested in the actual performance.
Yes I absolutely want to see everything you can can show about that rifle! I am very interested in the 12.5 arc.
I built a 12.5 6mm ARC upper a couple of months ago. Love it. I average about 2350 fps with Hornady factory 108Match. 1moa or a little better @ 100YDS. I got a faxon barrel on sale, Trybe Defense BCG with Grendel Bolt, Radian Raptor SD, Aero Precision Atlas S-1 Handguard. Put it all in a spare Wilson Combat Upper receiver. Supervative arms Adjustable gas block topped off with a Huxwrx Ventum via Area 419 Hellfire muzzle device. I'm all in less than $650 on the upper. Not counting the silencer. No problem hitting a 5" plate at 300yds. Stacking tolerances My Ass! My Frankenupper shoots great. I usually set it on a Geiselle Superduy SBR lower with a Geissele SSA-E so that helps. I've got about 180 rounds on it without a hiccup. Tons of fun to shoot.
Awesome
at 9000ft elevation, your pill still has 1000 ft/lbs force at 323 yards. It is a legal law requirement to hunt elk. Still has ~2035fps at impact at that distance, so plenty for expansion. eldm is known to be amazing on game.
I am glad I’m not the only one that had a problem with the magpul dust cover not working properly on a Noveske upper. I wound up shaving off some of the plastic on the dust cover and now it works just fine
I like that you build what you like and what works for you rather than trying to be all trendy.
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Love to see more of this rifle.
Would love to see more content on this riffle!
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That laser engraved topo pattern is awesome!!!!
I built a 12.5 for 6.5grendel but was disappointed in the velocity. I'm thinking of changing it to 6arc or even 22arc to gain some velocity.
That is a bad ass SBR! All my Noveske's are awesome AR's.
Love the setup. 12.5 will be my first 6arc when i finally build one this summer. Just stating facts for the masses, cassette triggers are cool, they are great - and simple. The downside to cassette triggers are having issues with carbon build up and popped primers shutting the entire gun down. I know... I know... The odds of those things happening are extremely low. Im just telling you thats why you wont see sof guys running cassette triggers though. It does happen. Mission drives gear. Nothing wring with casette triggers, just keep that in mind when you're building
@@l337l0gan My 12" Grendel is my main go-to AR-15. Does everything from HD/CQB to Long Range, and hits the steel really hard.
@@LRRPFco52 I have my build laid out except for the barrel. I'm leaving towards the noveske 12.5 6arc. What you think
@@l337l0gan I've made 1st-round hits at 900yds with my 12" Grendel. I normally shoot steel starting at 400yds, then go to 780yds with about 90% hit rate in 5-7mph winds shooting 123gr ELD-M.
I would seriously think about doing a 6.5 Grendel instead. You have 127+ factory loads to choose from, including 3 news ones from AAC.
If you want 6mm ARC performance, just shoot the 100gr ELD-VT new load from Hornady.
I de-edge, blend, and polish my barrel extension feed ramps, square the receiver face with a lapping tool, seal my gas blocks, and use the Bootleg adjustable gas carrier.
Get a Rexus Grendel/ARC bolt no matter what route you go. Noveske makes great barrels as does Precision Firearms and several other companies. I've had excellent experiences with Lilja, PF, Noveske, Proof.
I would love a complete Noveske Grendel Ghetto Blaster with 8.5" barrel. 8.5" is what I'm focusing on now with a new ultra-high velocity projectile in Grendel. Think 3050fps from a Grendel PDW.
I recently built a similar setup. Noveske 12.5 6arc , Badger CH, CMT 11.5 DRT rail surfire brake and 7.62 mini, vortex 3-18x44 strike eagle, B5 precision stock. Love it. I used the pinned noveske gas block and I guess I got lucky as it isn’t gassy at all. I am also getting sub MOA performance. Love the content. Im an avid watcher. 💪
Awesome! Thanks for
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txpredatorhunting This was awesome Man Thank you for doing this video.
We appreciate it.
Check the description for full build list .
You should try a Elftman cross bolt safety, it’s inherently ambi and super fast and quiet. It sometimes doesn’t work with certain triggers but I havnt experienced that myself
Just finished a Faxon 12.5 build, SA GB, JP Bolt, 51Fifty Handguard, BCM upper, aero lower, 1-8 optic, armaspec H3 SMB Buffer. Very curious on your velocities with the different loads that you offer.
Man that thing is pretty damn slick!
What's your favorite suppressor to run on the 6arc?
Love the production quality
We appreciate it.
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What's your thoughts on using the superlative arms piston systems on one of these 12.5 rifles?
Still undecided, need more time behind mine.
I've been buying the Timney impact triggers and they're really good for the money and have those set screws to lock standard pins in place.
What kind of red dot is on top? I want that. I don’t know what it is but I like the way it looks. I kind of want to put an AEMS up there too but idk how to with my reptilia LPVO w/ 12 o’clock red dot setup.
Guess I should have watched it.
You should . But check description.
Do you recall the specific rail length you started with to cut down? I’m interested in doing the same. Thanks!
I can't wait to get some of the VT ammo for my 6arc. What kind of point of impact shift are you seeing, when your rifle is zeroed for the 108's? I know going from the 108 eldm to the 103 eldx, there really isn't much of a difference.
I don't know about 6mm, but the 100gr ELD-VT in 6.5 Grendel is basically 6mm AR in a box without needing to make the change. I haven't been off-steel with it from 700-1000yds.
I didn't even bother shooting it at 100yds. Ran the numbers through my program to get mv for a shorter barrel, plugged in all my atmospheric data, 1st-round connect at 700yds, 800yds, then I emptied the rest on the large 1000yd gong. Vertical is really tight.
Others have stripped down the load after getting ES, and it was in really nice SDs/ES.
Shoots really flat. I compared it with 6mm 103gr ELD-X and 108gr ELD-M Doppler Radar numbers, and they're ballistic equivalents. Kinda makes 6mm pointless. You can hand-load 100-110gr faster in Grendel due to piston area/bore ratio, with less chamber pressure.
I want to know more about this cal/barrel length for the "swiss army knife" rifle! More vids.... Thx!
Hell yeah nice set up , I have a similar 12.5 set up all Geissele parts with a faxon barrel.
I’ve ran 103 Hornady Eldx and the new eldvt but saw fort Scott came out with a 95 g TUI 6 arc loading. Any experience or input with tui for hunting whitetail ?
I stay away from solids .
@@txpredatorhunting 10 4 thanks , I don’t have any experience with him either I’ll probably stick to the eld or try something loaded with a Berger elite hunter
Hey Wade - I'm looking to do a 6mm ARC hunting/precision build myself. How does the accuracy of the Noveske barrel compared to other builds you have?
It’s no better or no worse than others .
Very nice build. I’m doing a 6.5 Grendel 12 inch build sbr. Light and to the point
I've been shooting my 12" Grendel for the past 7 years as my main go-to blaster for anything I used to use 18" Grendel for.
My preferred AR-15 of them all, and I've been shooting AR-15s, M-16s, M4s, or AR-10s dating back to 1987.
I'm working with 10.5" and 8.5" Grendels now. Exciting stuff with some new projectiles in development.
beautiful rifle man. exactly what im building right now. great minds think alike. cant believe i just found ur channel. got a new sub
I'm currently building a 18" 6 arc AR and I used a lot of Noveske stuff and similar parts you used. It will be suppressed 100% of the time
Nice!
Love your content and your honest insights. I like to ask what your opinions are on a 11.5 inch 6 arc ? I have a 16 inch 6 arc and looking to shrink up the 6ARC for same reason with the 80 grain Hornady. I saw that GQ armory had a 11 inch 6 ARC. Can u do a review on that some day?
What type of LPVO Optic is that? I see the Aimpoint but not the other one and its not on your build list? Thank you!
I second this question. Curious about the LPVO
Elenor (vortex 1-10 ) mill contract.
We’ve spoke about it in previous vids, go check them out.
Unobtanium Eleanor vortex. My dream optic. They’re on the kac rifles that were sent overseas
What makes it your dream optic? Have you ever looked through one or ran one?
@@GldenRetriever ebr9 mil holds, max 10x for the ruleset I like to compete in, vortex warranty
Looks good, I built a 11.3" 300 HAMR for the same purpose. Stops at about 300y for me too with 125g bullets.
Awesome build where you guys getting those short Vortex 1-10?
Go back through vids we covered it .
Small batch got released on euro optic.
@@txpredatorhuntingAwesome breakdown. I always love it when dudes critique the shorties without any trigger time behind them, but once you actually use them, you're sold and have to have one.
@@txpredatorhuntingHave you compared the Razor Gen 3 to the 1-10 AMG? I have the Razor and love it, but have been eyeballing that shorty 1-10x AMG along with the March.
@@LRRPFco52 yes , scroll through vids . We covered that on podcast.
Who makes that LPVO? I didn’t see it in the parts list
That's what I want to know also.
Schmidt and bender
Vortex AMG 1-10, unreleased to the public except for a $5k bundle with a Daniel Defense rifle at EuroOptic.
Where did you get that 1-10x from?
Ever use KAK industries down vent bolt carrier
Using one now, will report in when I’m confident I can speak on longevity. Good looking bolt, solid design.
I’ve got a Grendel and a 6.8 spc. I’m trying to stay away from chasing brass from more cartridges. What would your recommendation be for a brass catcher?
Honestly I don’t have one.
Brian from Carpe Sus likes Tactical Brass Recovery catchers. They're one of the best.
@@LRRPFco52exactly what I was thinking mate, cheers Yogi ✌️🤙🇦🇺
you never spoke about the BCG what are you running? Im currently building a 12.5 inch with a Centurion SS barrel and a Noveske DLC BCG. Im not sure if the bolt is a JP or a Noveske but it came with there carrier. I know the Older Noveske 6 ARC uppers came with JP enhanced headspace bolt.
Noveske
Another awsome video, did you happen to wiegh it before you added scope and suppressor?
I did not , but I will later .
Love, love, love Noveske, 6mm ARC or otherwise. Best looking rifles on the planet.
What’s the load development like for that 12.5”??
I’ll touch on that later .
after this vid I'm no longer embarrassed by my mix matched Frankenguns that shoot straight
Some of my favorite rifles are the junk drawer builds. I have Gucci builds, down to the cheapest rifles that can be found. At the end of the day, if it gets the job done , you should be proud of it. Different convo as far as reliable parts etc. But still .
People today still do NOT understand how awesome 6 ARC is !
What optic is that?
Im tryna see more of the BOOM ROOM!
I’ve done a few walk arounds in the past on the other channel. But maybe we will do something updated soon.
dude deserves way more subs
I run nothing but Triggertech on all my guns. They really are the easiest install and best triggers
For sure
Nice build. The gap between the hand guard and upper receiver is driving me nuts
I like Trigger Tech Triggers as well... HOWEVER I prefer the ELFTMAN 2 - 5lb. & Also they use Screws & i don't worry about pins walking out
I really want to see the difference in FPS between a suppressed build vs unsuppressed.
Do you think savage will eventually release the 110 in 22 arc?
I’d imagine it’ll be here by fall at latest.
15:37 lol that gap. I’d go crazy. Everyone doesn’t mind them busted up and scratched. But we want the build to be perfect to start. Seems like everyone is OCD that way.
Being very ocd myself , it was a problem at first. Really don’t care much now.
What ended up being total cost of rifle? Ballpark?
How u get that scope??!! I want it but gotta buy a shit Daniel Defense to get it!
Unfortunately that’s how you get one for now. Lol
And registration is a warrantless search by AFT, waiting to happen. You NFA guys call it an inspection though, right?
Very interested about further performance testing in this barrel length. Considering swapping my 12.5" 5.56 for a 6ARC barrel. Would this work well as a "jack of all trades" rifle or would 16" be better?
The answer is: “both”
What does jack of all trades mean to you?
@@txpredatorhunting Oklahoma hunting, long range plinking, hopefully never self defense. Before this video I was leaning 16” to avoid an extra stamp…
I can’t afford multiple niche rifles so I’m wanting to choose a length that’s versatile
What barrel maker and bcg maker was used
What optic setup did you run?
He's being quiet about it.. I posted a comment asking the same Q and it looks to have been deleted (unless I missed it looking for it).. they also didn't post it in the spec sheet in the description of the video.
Did't mention the optics mount either.
Late to the party Wade I’ve had my 12.5” mini action build for almost a year. The ballistics are plenty good, even better in a 12.5” 6arc bolt gun 😉
No doubt on the bolt action.
On that Magpul Dusk Cover, just trim a little off with a Dremel where it is sticking.
I’ll check it out!
Make sure you're a certified Dremologist and sleep in a Holiday Inn Express first 😂
Anyone have any luck running SA gas blocks under a 1.3in (most common these days) internal diameter hand guard? The rail in this video is advertised at 1.27in. I was going to run a clamp on SA block on a proof barrel but want to make sure there’s no rubbing.
6mm MAX seems better suited for a barrel length like 12.5”
Bipod is the best thing on the table🤘🏻
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I would like to see you do a build with the dealt team tactical 18 inch 6 arc barrel it's 99 bucks out the door I think a as low buck 6 arc build would be really cool and I think people would really like to see that because for us on a budget and wanting to know the cheapest way to get into a 1 moa 6 arc with only about 300 to 400 in a upper
I’m looking into that currently. Trying decide exactly what direction I wanna go with it.
Looking for more grain ammo?
Badass
How can I get my hands on that new 1x10 🔥
If more are available, you pay way too much for the Daniel defense package on euro optic.
@@txpredatorhunting I thought I responded months ago I apologize yesssss expensive 😊
I've run 1,000 rounds through my 14.5 noveske 6arc and my 12.5 noveske 6 arc and the difference is about 100 fps slower in my 12.5 vs my 14.5. With 108 eldm factory ammo. Both shoot lights out and you guys are sleeping on BRT gas tubes. Especially on 6arc
Sell me on it!
don't have it on arc but on shorty builds - doesn't fail, doesn't carbon lock. probably more expensive than a reduced opening gas tube should be but it's a simpler cheaper way to reduce gas on an overgassed rifle.
@@penn9363 only down fall I see is being locked in on a certain size at that price point. Where as you do have the option of adjusting on gas block. I’m familiar with the company, not t&e practices though. So price could be justified if the amount of testing reflects when allowing them to select the size. That said, I’d still prefer an adjustable gas block. In particular the ability for bleed off.
I'm using Bootleg adjustable gas carriers on all my short barrel CLGS & PLGS suppressed blasters.
Been using it on 2x 12" Grendels I built in 2017, both with high efficiency TBAC cans. Both have been running great since 2017 on fully-suppressed position, using extra power action springs.
I'm also liking what I'm seeing from RifleSpeed 12 position blocks with the extended cylinder mechanical advantage.
@@LRRPFco52 I bought bootleg for all my 6 arc builds but due to the BRT gas tubes Im running I have never had to adjust any of the carriers. I'm running Huxwrx Flow 6k cans on both builds.
6 ARC IS THE BEST AR guns out there. I have a 18" and a 12.5" both are so awesome! 6mm ARC cartridge is above and beyond, far superior in comparison to the 5.56 .
Looks like geissele inspired handguard. Looks like my DRT handguard. Watched further…
“Negative benefits”…I think those are called consequences lol
American Russell Crowe
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Just not gonna throw the optic into parts list lol
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Did anyone else notice the gap between the upper receiver & the hand guard?
When I pointed it out?
When you open with "Is it worth it to build a 12 inch six Arc as far as performance goes" a reasonable person would expect you to spend the majority of the video talking about performance of a 6 ARC in a 12in barrel. Instead you spent 19min talking about everything but performance, and that makes for a frustrating video.
If i could get a 600yds at 1moa with open tip ammo, i would never leave...until somone garantees a half moa at 600yds
6mm arc is just another failed attempt to dethrone 6.5 grendel. 6.8 spc, 224 valk, 300 blk, 6 arc. All tried yet none beat it. The 129gr eld beat any other ar15 cartridge in distance, and not to mention greater muzzle energy, wider bullet, more expansion, heavier. Uses the eame mags, same capacity. Easily reloadable, and works amazingly in short barrels
Magpul - best bipod?!? Confirmation this is a paid program.
😂
10 years ago Noveske was manufacturing a solid rifle. Now they are all about gimmicks and marketing with rifles like the “ghetto blaster”. I wish Noveske continued to manufacture quality the way LaRue has over the years. I would never want a Noveske manufactured today.
Is this backed by real world data , hands on or just hear say?
Don’t get upset, I’m just curious.
Waste of time and money.
I would just have a 5.56 instead because it's proven in short barrel.
AR15 isn't the most accurate rifle to start with.
That being said, you can build one to moa.
If I'm hunting or want a longer range with the AR15, I'm going with a 20 to 22in barrel.
I like the 22arc, 6arc, and 6max, but 223/556 are proven especially in short barrel.
Are you serious? Kidding joking?
Im generally joking around , but fairly serious. 😂
For me, as a European, it still seems odd; 'a riffle for Your children.'?!??
Whats wrong with children being capable and proficient with the firearm teaching them weapons safety instead of being ignorant like you, Europeans
Thank a simeauto as bolt action u will shoot better.
Huh?
@@txpredatorhuntingmaybe he was meaning to run your semi auto as a bolt action, aka turn the gas off?
what a silly gun
Why?
12" High Performance Intermediate cartridge AR-15 carbines are currently the pinnacle of AR-15 evolution. They easily exceed the performance of 20" 5.56 rifles in a shorter, lighter, more compact package.
Bet you’re an M1A guy
cant wait to see what you think of the CAT stuff vs huxworks. suppressors. Dont care for their cringe style marketing but interested in the actual performance.
Waiting patiently for some to arrive.