Flyin' Miata Turbocharged ND MX5 RF - One Take
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2017
- This 2017 Mazda MX5 RF features Flyin' Miata's new bolt-on turbo system for the ND chassis RF's and Roadsters. The turbo system itself is by BBR, and is 50-state emissions legal. This test vehicle also features Flyin' Miata's Stage 2 suspension system(set a hair too low for car shows) and big brake kit.
Learn more at: www.flyinmiata.com
Build List:
BBR Stage 1 Turbo system (full California spec)
Flyin' Miata Hush-O-Matic exhaust
Flyin' Miata Stage 2 suspension (FM springs, Koni Sport shocks, FM sway bars)
Flyin' Miata little big brake kit
17x8 949Racing 6ULs with 235/40-17 Yokohama S.drives
10mm spacers (Don't recommend these with this wheel and tire combination - MF & KT)
Verus Engineering rear diffuser 
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This is one of the most beautiful cars made right now. Especially in a price range most can afford. Everything else is trying way too hard in the styling department. This will age well and is simply gorgeous.
S2kTi Damn it looks better than the new Vantage! Not kidding!
kraenk12 Everytime i see one, especially an RF I want to drop what I'm doing and go to a Mazda dealer asap hahah
DaveThrashManiac congrats! I might pick up a '16 next year after some depreciation has worked it's magic
i just don't like the smile
They're giving them away up here in PA. Some dealers still have 2016 inventory left over as new. Waiting to pay off my 3-5door and maybe grabbing an RF myself
I loved the technical nerdy talk in the beggining about the knock prevention, intake temperatures, turbine choice, exhaust speeds... I love nerdy talk Matt, bring this guy more oftenly!
Driver7 yes I love it as well taught me more things
Are cars nerdy things?
These days....kinda. Nerds rule the world now though, who cares.
here here!
@Sam Well, whenever i open my mouth to talk about anything remotely related to cars girls flee like if i had bubonic plague or some sort of a shield so yes, talking cars is now talking nerdy.
_Hey gurl, wanna see my tit tanium valves? my ball... bearing trubos? What about my knob? shifter knob?_ Ain't gonna work, trust me.
Been a while since I heard a rub on a one take. We had a good run boys.
garf117 pour one out for the sidewall
garf117 "Days past since last rubbing: 0 Days"
sorry but im from germany and what is rubbing? is it when the car is too low or what does it mean?
Leon Kalogeropoulos When the sidewall of the tyre rubs on the guard either from the tyres being to wide or the car being to low... or both. ☺
sinking miata
Being a tech that has installed the bbr turbo kit on a nd Miata customer car these kits are awesome and flyin Miata was great to deal with our customer was super stoked and it’s a blast to drive!!!!!
"You give a little squeeze and it squirts on you".....instant segway into next convo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 well played.
Great company to get parts from with top notch customer service. I was in a bind and needed one of their parts quickly, but the main run of that part had not yet started. So they offered to sell me the prototype. It worked flawlessly and saved the day. I highly reccomend the Flying Miata guys.
I just bought a ND Mx5 it’s fucking brilliant I can’t recommend one enough
Damn. Gold on red looks pretty good on that Miata.
I'm not a huge fan of Miatas but this RF with a turbo kit would be my ideal "fun car." It looks so beautiful in red with gold wheels.
I drove a jaguar soft top, a new one at that, and fell in love with my Miata 2017.
no turbo sounds 😥
Great vid. Keith Tanner is very knowledgeable. Interesting to hear about the GDI limitations on power and how they dealt with the high compression ratio and turbo.
There's a company in the UK called "bbr gti" that now sells forged pistons and con rods that lower the compression ratio to 11.5:1... And apparently it's doing well with the turbo conversion and they're starting to see reliable numbers over 300bhp... The major issue with stock mazda internals is the con rods, apparently they're the weakest link in assembly with knock causing catastrophic failure by bending the rods after just one or two hard pulls from a stationery position...
Flyin Miata ND is cool as hell. Really a great company to work with..research and development is top notch
Other than no choo-choo noises and the terrible spacers, I am loving this setup!
Matt's face when it rubs. Priceless
love the look of that miata. Could not help but smile at your reaction to the tire rub Matt. Cringing at every rub :)
“Boy was that quiet” lollll
Luqman Baig I heard that too 😂😂😂
What a stunning car! The RF is just a winner!
All this car needed was 250 + HP and 250 + Torque and proper suspension work that gonna cut down that annoying lean on the corners. Beside these, this is one of the top 4-5 perfect designed/made cars those made during past 10 years.
The mods aside(which I like), damn the new hardtop Miata looks good.
The sky looks beautiful
This one looks amazing.
The NA was released when I was 10 yrs old. I was a mad car fan back then.. Still am, but I have autism, so as a kid, I knew everything about all production cars back then. My ma flirted with getting an NA back then, so I've had a fondness for the MX-5 (as its known here in the UK) since then. My family owned a couple of Mazda's, but never an MX-5. With the ND RF whispering _sweet nothings_ in my ears, I think the time has come to take the plunge! Particularly with that stage 1 turbo kit and the extras! 😍😎👍
Did you get one dude?
Damn you can really feel the speed in this video
Always heard great things about Flyin' Miata
this Miata looks awesome!
It kind of reminds me of a TVR Tuscan. i like it.
i thought the same...
except not as ugly as the Tuscan.
Man the new hard tops are perfect . they should have bought out a turbo version from stock. Perfect sports car.
Matt is there any powder you can recommend to this MX5 for the chafing from all that rubbing?
nelsonsubaru 😂👍
Well played
Great comment
GG!
Lose weighy
That face when it rubs... Priceless.
This is like the 7th or 8th miatas on the one takes
Awesome
Nice speedmaster Matt
Keith Tanner is like the messiah of the Miata world
The fact that he promotes the use of Hydra is naughty but damn does that man know miatas
God that car is nice. Love the tyre car colour combo.
Loving the black speedmaster, didnt think you owned any Omega's
In a Mazdaspeed3 a GTX3071r would usually make around ~400whp on 93 and around 500 on E85. It's crazy to think that they're using this big turbo on such a little engine on 6-7psi.
I've gotta say that engine sounds _fantastic_.
thats a good looking miata, god damn
That RF miami is one inwould consider on buying, looks amazing and with a turbo kit 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
OFF ROAD N Chill WUT
OFF ROAD N Chill nah ND SOFTOP always
yeh the RF Miami
I think it is hands down the ugliest car Mazda has ever produced. it looks like a failed Lotus Elise, and that car isn't pretty either, nevermind a failed version of that.... The soft-top however, is arguably one of the prettiest cars Mazda ever made. After the RX7, obviously.
TheRzarectah
Vice Edition
nice color combinations
Thats basically my dream miata.
Flyin' Miata is awesome!
I have an ND Miata. If I just wanted more power via forced induction without drastically changing the response characteristics, should I go with the supercharger or the turbocharger?
I'm also curious what the impact on fuel efficiency would be, since this is my daily driver.
That miata looks great. Ide drive it no problem.
3 seconds and I can’t wait 😃😃😃
RIP Yokohama S Drives :( had those on my NB, best tire I've ever had.
I'd love to twin turbo it. Make it sorta like the FD Rx7, but with the Skyactiv engine instead of a rotary. Maybe call it the ND-7.
Morning dump gang checking in
Macktasticslick yeaaaaaaaaaa, it's in progress boi 😎
Dumping as I type
im behind schedule (dump wise) but bee-line coffee is helping with that sitch.
Ordered the chili last night
Macktasticslick who cares ffs
God that thing looks good with the hardtop and lowered a bit.
Same turbo concept as on an aftermarket turbo'd 1HZ Toyota Diesel in Landcruisers. Big turbo, low pressure, high compression.
I fucking love the looks of these cars. More power is exactly what it needs.
Flyin Miata is doing BIG things, if they legalize that turbo kit in Cali, I will become a happy man, Turbo'd!
What happened to the Basil the Land Rover 2a you had Keith? I️ followed your page and it was great to see you putting it through its paces!
I really think my mom should have this car love miatas
In the Central Florida area Shell 93 is the best I’ve found for fuel.
The new Miata's are so pretty.
I have an NA BBR with 204 bhp. Perfect for me.
Beautiful car, gold rims
Put spacers on because it looks awesome, this is my kind of guy
What is it this time Matt? A Speedmaster Darkside Of The Moon? I am more jealous of your watch collection than your cars!
dude, awesome watch. Omega dark side of the Moon. i have the grey side of the Moon. so amazing.
Keith Tanner is the Miata master!
Something my buddies and I did was added a fuel rail into the intake manifold but is only active with 65% throttle or more
How did you program the additional injectors on a certain rev range?
Nice looking car.
I just recently sold my glorified Miata called a Boxster. I'm glad I sold it. Miata is mush better deal for the money
Damn it looks better than the new Vantage! Not kidding!
Beautiful car but I'll always like the softop kit
Oh cool, I never even thought about higher compression resulting in higher exhaust velocities, which makes it easier to spool up the turbo. Learn something new every day!
Man I do love the looks of the ND RF Miatas, though. Could make a good mid-life crisis car when I get to that point a few years down the road. hah!
Not sure what they meant really. If the exhaust expands a bit more before the valves open, it should just mean that it's cooler so there's less power available to pump the compressor, slow spooling etc. So they use a smaller compressor and Bob's you're uncle. Why wait until you're old? You know you're already thinking about it ;)
FL has 94 octane at sunoco and we get summer gas all year which is slightly better then winter gas, and there is no law here in FL except window tint but open headers are fine.
I like the RF more than the soft top in terms of design, it has the same lines as those old sport coupés, like the Z.
In Europe the entry level engine is a 1.5 skyactive-G pushing about 105hp. not much, bit it weight less than 1 metric tonne (soft top).
Yeah, the RF top actually makes the Miata look attractive, the soft top is hideous.
Dontcallmeshirley bhp*, it probably makes around 100hp at the wheels with a manual.
idontcare80 nah I hated the hartop , miatas should always be softop. So I decided to get my ND in a SOFTOP
I like how the RF looks, but the soft top is half a turbo cheaper, 113# lighter, has space for an SCCA approved roll bar, & has a better top down experience. I'll take the soft top any day.
It's unfortunate that Mazda doesn't make a true coupe, it would be better in every possible way.
Gotta say that RF doesn’t look very Miata-like. But still nicer than a soft top in every part of the year except sunny summer days!
Probably my dream first car. Maybe a bit unreasonable
If your limited by the fuel system. You could just upgrade the fuel pump and injectors and make more power?
Hey Matt, did you prefer this suspension set up over the soft top version?
Matt you should do videos on your Porsche build.
Here east of the Rockies in Colorado we are also plagued with 91
Matt: Did you have to slouch to sit in the RF? If not, are those seats stock? I tried to sit in the RF at a local dealer with the seat lowered all the way, and it seemed like my line of site was hindered by the roofline.
has flying Miata looked into the Twin charging application that Volvo does? As in possibly both super and turbocharging the motor!?
I wish there were more heavily modified ND Miata's, im surprised how few are used in actual racing applications.
Hay Farah. I just watched /DRIVE on NBCSN and noticed that you wear driver caps from time to time. What brands would you recommend?
Damn dude. Wish these came from the factory like this
Zach C. Benton average people would not be able to buy them
Love your videos. Consider getting a new non-bouncing gimbal for your camera.
Speedy Dark Side of the Moon, nice.
dang. I wanna do this to my NC
Strange that the direct injection is such a limiting factor in the power. If that's the issue and cost of the s/c and turbo are that much vs that little power gain, it almost seems like the car would be a bit cheaper and funner as a modded n/a car. I guess I am used to 300whp Miatas at the very least when it comes to turbo Miatas.
It’s the fuel system limitations for me. Came here before buying and yeah… was hoping for a 400hp kit.
anyway you can bring him on the podcast?
Matt you are to funny "Boy that was quiet" lol
Quick little car.
Questions:
The turbo has same HP as the SC, more peak-y torque curve, more peak in mid range acceleration dv/dt. Is that why Matt likes it better? It may not be faster 0-60 than the SC’s linear torque band, but feels more responsive at this (how high?) altitude?
A flat torque curve gives you linearly rising power through the rev range. A flat power curve means you are near peak horsepower any time you are mid tach or higher. More area under the curve (in the used rev range) makes for a faster accelerating car, even with the same peak power numbers. Particularly if the revs drop a bit in a corner or some such situation.
The turbo car probably IS faster 0-60. Slightly. Even at sea level. Unless the turbo lag is bad enough to be a factor. The peakier supercharged car would need an edge in peak power to compete.
The roads around Angeles forrest can be anywhere from sub 3k feet all the way up to the highest pass at 9k ish. But they weren't that high, probably 3-5k tops, still, the turbo would start showing some advantage there.
So yeah that fat midrange, giving the feeling of power everywhere, is something that Matt admits to preferring. I personally enjoy being rewarded for revving a motor out. To each their own.
Side note: for many years (still?) WRC has been limited to ~300hp via restriction on the intake. Therefore those guys find ways to make a flat 300hp from like 2k thru 6k rpm. This is part of why they perform unlike any other 300 hp cars in the world.
kleinbottled79
Thanks for your reply, I thought the torque and HP curves were closer, but I see now how much the BBR turbo won over the EB SC BBR tune from at least 2,500 to >6k RPM for both per Keith’s dyno posts on Miata.net. The power is equal at redline. Up to then, advantage to turbo, except for the Edelbrock warranty.
Feel free to give me either!
kleinbottled79 A flat torque curve means that it idealy has peak or good torque from idle to red line the flatter the better. HP is fun but torque is really what people want and need as there is nothing that can replace that wave of acceleration from a well tuned torqey turbo motor.
Wait Matt...how do you fit in the RF? Im 6'1 and my head kept hitting the roof and knee kept hitting the wheel...
Even though living in Australia means no warranty, but I like the simpler and longevity provided by supercharged engine compared to turbocharged ones. I drive my MX5 daily and looking to keep it as long as I can, the supercharger is more suitable for my situation. 200hp at the wheel is pretty good for such a light car, any more than that would push the stock transmission and differential too much.
MrMeoow91 i agree thats why i probably never buy nonjapanese cars, it will last long no matter how much you torture them ofc as long as you keep boost low and the engine cool. plus japanese sports cars are cheap with cheap parts track them drift them as much as you like if something break you wont shed a tear.
ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx that’s extremely close minded and biased. FBO and sometimes even boosted American V8s last hundreds of thousands of miles. German cars will as well. It’s a case by case thing. Excluding maybe economy cars half the time when a car dies pre 150k miles is because of the owner.
Dude Shark american cars are amazing if they are pick up or suv otherwise ill pass. European cars are cool and all but too expinseve and expinsve to maintain and you dont really get the value for your money also they dont last as long if you have 5 yo german car sell it before you get cought into the trap. Japanese cars #1 american #2 Skorean #3 euro #4
ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx you realize American cars parts pin their technology? The SUV and pickups share the same stuff and it’s leaked all the ways through their lineups. I’d bet money as far as sports cars go a muscle car will outlast anything out of Japan. The LS and Mod motors are extremely durable and that’s why people always swap them. Reliable easy power for way cheaper. Again, German cars just take maintenance. Keep up with oil and other liquids and they’ll last. So unless your argument is that you don’t have to do that in Japanese cars, in which case I’d just assume you’re clueless, it’s like I said, a majority of the time it comes down to the owner.
I don't want to talk shit about US cars as they have proven both powerful and reliable, cars such as Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Crown Victoria and GMC suvs and pick ups have earned legendary status where i came from.
It maybe since you're from the US you see things differently, most people from around the world would agree with me i think, that whether it comes to sports cars or every day sedan's japan is and have always been the best in terms affordability and reliability.
Nice kit. Maybe upgrade the fuel system for another 20 to 25 hp?
He Matt, ever driven a BBR Stage 2 Turbo ND1 with 300 whp? 😊
sometimes being first to get to something is awesome, and sometimes the OEM bends you over. I remember ppl trying to soup up early Teslas lol
Love this setup more than the S/C Soft Top Miata. But I really like both. I just prefer Turbos for the expansion possibilities later on. That turbo is pretty damn big for the car so if down the road you wanted to say, throw forged internals and more powerful fuel system or even adding in Port Injection to go along with the factory installed Direct Injection. Since he mentioned the Direct Injection is whats limiting being able to get more fuel, then adding port injection would allow you to be able to add much more fuel without tampering withe the D.I. therefore no problems there, and also you'd be able to run much more boost (safely) because of this and and, ding ding ding ding, you guessed it, much more power.
P.s. @ 5:13 You dirty man, sending subliminal messages about sex. lol jk jk but my dirty adolescent mindset couldn't help it. Sorry for my immaturity. ;P The Mockery!
Definitely the RF over the soft top
Hi, i installed BBR Turbo on my ND miata. I found a disturbing rattle sound at low gear at 3000-35000 rpm during immediate acceleration. Do you experience similar issue?
Dude, you have to post that DSOTM to r/watches.