What Do You Look For In A String??
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In this video I cover what I look for in an after market string and give my personal recommendations.
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The new PSE Live Wire strings have been really impressive for a factory set. After market I’ve liked Catfish Customs
Those pse strings are unbelievable how good they are 3 years on my bow and now I am finally getting them replaced no peep rotation nothing just the string is starting to fray a little by the roller guard
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BCY 454 and Vec-99 are more stable than 452x, and if you get it from bloodline bowstring fiber, you don't have to wax it at all because of their coating!
Just ordered gas ghost xv for my TRX. Excited to try them out. I had really good luck with rogue r19 pro as well. Zero stretch or break in time
Vapor trail all the way! Just ordered a custom set yesterday at 9 pm, it shipped today by noon. Ran them for years, and after ten or less shots they are settled in and don't move. I will never even consider another string brand. Top notch quality, and the best service in the business, what more could a guy ask for?
Have them on my Halon 32 three years, three nice bucks , no problems!
If you're not seeing any stretch or movement then they're making them with force10. It's the standard crossbow string material and we use it at the shop for guys that do a lot of tournament shoots. Keeps them from having to tune their stuff all the time.
I find ABB strings are pretty nice too. The Platinum version come pre stretched
Ive had 2 ABB platinum strings and the peep never moved from day one on either.
I have abb strings on one of my bows 3 years now still like new and still perfect gas bowstrings are just as good
Did the complete set option come with cables also? About to order some
The premium are pre stretched as well.
My Martin Max 33 bow came factory with GAS strings. Been two years and still kicking. Just about time for a new string.
I just bought my first "real" bow and ended up getting a VXR 31.5. I love the bow but holy smokes the zebra strings are a pain in the ass. Peep rotation after every shot lol. I was thinking of going with Americas best bowstrings but might have to look more into the gas strings. Either way I think both would be better then the zebra strings
Go with Abb or gas ghost you won't regret it stay away from 60x I used those after every shot my peep would rotate 180 degrees same with my d loop idk what was going on neither did the shop
I have ABBs on my PSE, and I’ve had zero stretch or peep rotation issues whatsoever. About 500shots in
I have had 3rd set of white stings and cable on TRX, TRG and TX5. For the most part they say kinda white. Scorpion Venom cleaner works very well to clean them up. To get old wax and dirt out wrap serving material and pull down slowly. My 1st set of white is Mercury
Just went to my local shop an ordered some. Great channel with a lot of information.
THANK YOU! Ive been searching the web for something like this!
that is epic! my local archery hunting shop primarily sale and recommend GAS strings, works perfect on PSE and I do like VaporTrail Strings as well. Great Vid.
Also, any string brand, or custom string maker, I always go with a solid color, because of the stretch factor of the dyes. Yes Chartreuse and black look awesome, but they do not perform as well as solid chartreuse. Or any other all one color string. I have a guy make mine and he has been making them for a long time at his house, and his strings are better than winners choice to me, and he is the one that talked me into the solid colors, and explained why. His are made in a string making MACHINE that also pre-stretches them.
Ummmm...... White strings look awesome on that bow!!
After watching this review I finally decided to put some after markets on my Triax (was shooting PSE Brute X before)! I've been shooting the stock zebras since I bought it and it's pushing 3 seasons now so time for new strings and cables! Triax Lost Camo HD riser and limbs, was getting avg 305fps, I'm not a precision archer ( as much as I wish I was ) I'm shooting my Triax with 70lb dw 29" DL and 28.5" arrow length, Carbon Express Badlands 350 spine 100 grain heads *swacker in season* CBE Engage single pin .010 sight and just installed CBE Torx back stab with a 10 Degree front (NEW THIS YEAR FOR ME JUST BOUGHT THEM LAST WEEK SO FAR LOVING THE STABILITY!) Ordered my Gas Ghost XV All WHITE with Black Servings and Black Speed Knocks last week waiting for delivery and install! Also after watching one of your other videos thinking about dropping my kisser and either using the brass ring or even hearing talk about the nose button? Will update my feedback and what I choose for tertiary knock points lol... Love your vids, wish I was trained or could take a few lessons to help me... basically a youtube/friends telling me shooter lol
QUESTION ❓> if your bow has neutral colored strings, can you change the color with permeant markers?
I mean you could, but it would look horrible and would weaken the fibers. Don't do that lol
ThreadZ make great strings
Been running 60x on my 2015 Hoyt CST it and recently picked up a new in box 2017 Hoyt CST in blackout. After watching this video I may go with the Gas Ghost XVstrings in natural with black servings. They really look to be a quality product. I'm looking forward to trying them out soon. Thanks for the video.
Correction. That should have said 2017 CDT in blackout.
Correction: I meant to say that I recently picked up a NIB Hoyt CST in blackout.
I make my own, on my home made string jig.
Nothing beats shooting your own string and cable sets.
Its not hard to do, and it doesnt take that much time. which are the main excuses for people not doing it themselves. When the real excuse is...' Im too lazy to learn a new skill, and too lazy to make a string for myself'
I'm headed to the bow shop now I just had brand new gas strings put on I'm looking forward to shooting my bow
Probably behind the times but I think I’ll try the GAS Ghost. I’ve had really good results from TwistedXbowstrings.
thanks for the info, but a material list would be nice
My bow loves Vapor Trail strings!
Im shooting rogues r21 and there incredible no stretch my peep moved slightly in the first 100 or so arrows but the string was still settling in made adjustments and since then its never moved definetly a noticeable difference from the factory zebras that were on my vertix the draw cycle and shot felt much smoother and noticeably quieter
On my BOWTECH REVOLT I use threadz custom strings. They are great.
I shoot a Bowtech Invasion and orderd a stringset from 60X. I have no peeprotation and no servingseparation what so ever after 5-600 shots!
Abaddon Voss 60X is junk
@@michaelstefano2359 60x is thrash I will never touch that again even if you paid me had a proshop install the strings the d loop and string would rotate on every shot
Pse makes the best factory strings those livewire strings are top notch. The best aftermarket strings I have used are abb platinum strings and gas ghost bowstrings those are as good as it gets. I tried 60x bowstrings those are crap zebra strings are 1000 times better compared to 60x strings
I have vapor trail strings and have not had any issues with them. I have over 300 shots and so far no strings stretch or peep rotation. I have used 1st string before and I was not happy with them. They stretched about 1/4" on me and they just didnt hold up in my book. I had to replace them in a year cause they frayed fast. I even waxed them once every 2 weeks depending on how much I shot.
Ghost is Bcy 454, it’s available in all colors. You are incorrect that that colors expand the the fiber. Different colors in waxed materials will just have more pigment, causing the the overall material to be larger.
If the overall material is larger after it's dyed, then I would say it expanded.
You are so right.. Their not exclusive. Then dropped new camo ghost.. not at all. It's tan n kiwi spackle 454bcy released a few weeks ago. The wool has been pulled over eyes on a marketing scheme
Great Info , thanks
What color of green is that called on the first strings u r holding?
When I change the strings on my Ravin R20 I'm trying GAS Strings. I have heard a bunch of good things.
Now I know what brand are my next strings and cables going to be
My RX3 fuse strings never moved in almost 3 years. Peep stayed true and center, unfortunately I didn’t like the bow
Hm that’s a rare case haha. Usually Hoyt strings stretch like crazy
Catfish Customs for me
thanks dude!
My son shoots a bear wild with the OG green and orange strings and can shoot x,s all day long for real I shoot with him and my black strings on the golden eagle predator are 24 years old and shoot fine still. Not as good as my son's bit that's me not my bow string. Because he can shoot it good too. I think most of it is in peaples heads.
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What's your opinion on abb strings? Thats all I run on my bows. The only reason is where I live they are easy to get.
What are your thoughts on Stone Mountain strings?
Never heard of them
I'm trying the gas ob my bow on order I'm getting more confident in my decision nobody has really heard of gas yet
Maybe not where you are, but in the professional archery world they’ve been dominant for a couple years now! Phenomenal strings
@@InsideOutPrecision yes sir I've asked my other outfitters and guides if they heard of them and not much to say, but researching I'm seeing they have been out, I just heard if remmi Warren just randomly become friends with his guid/camera man, there's still a lot who haven't heard of randy newberg. Real hunters have beer things to do than watch outdoor channel lol.
@@247tx3 haha yeah I hear you. guides and outfitters generally don’t know much when it comes to technical stuff in archery. Best to stick to pro shops advice
Any thoughts on Bloodline Vec 99 or BCY 454. I've been hearing good things about both but as I guy who's always had BCY 452X or BCY 99 strings wanted to hear what your opinions are on these materials. Love the vids, some of my favorite content on youtube. I've been buying sets from Catfish Custom Bowstrings and now I see he has the Bloodline Vec 99.
The 454 is awesome. Haven't messed with vector 99. I just know these gas ghost strings don't move!
What is your opinion on bows that come with the rubber tubing attached to the string to align the peep at draw?
Theyre usually low end bows with cheap strings that won't work with a normal peep. Personally I hate rubber tubing
Hey, grey video. I have a question about string stretch. I have a single cam bow, Diamond Stud, it has 60 pound limbs and I've recently had it restrung but my pundage is only going to 54 with the limbs bottomed out. The axel to axel and brace height both measure what they should. What should I do?
Seems like your string is not the right length
What do yo recommend for target bow strings?
Same strings as in this video
Have you tried rouge R21 or did they copy gas ghost strings?
I have a PSE evolve 31. What kind of sets do I get? The Gas website has 2/3 piece or 4/5 piece
You would need to contact GAS and give them make and model of your bow, then they'll make them.
@@InsideOutPrecision oh ok thanks and thanks for the reply
Have you tried Threadz strings? I just put a set on my bow. I wanted the factory live wire back on but I was going to have to send it back to PSE to get them.
Haven't played with them.
Dam good strings
I’m getting ready to order a new set of gas strings for a like new used xpedition Xcursion I just purchased.
Get the Ghost XV's! Best strings I've ever used
Inside Out Precision Whaaaat would you recommend for a carbon stealth and for a expedite....the white single color?
What are your thoughts on America’s Best Platinum series strings?
Neither great or bad, just pretty average.
Hello, was wondering if you had any experience with Twisted X Strings and cables?
I don't unfortunately!
Inside Out Precision Ok, I know y’all get a lot of requests but if y’all were able to test out a set of Twisted X strings and cables and do a review, it would be greatly appreciated. Just found your RUclips channel this morning, really appreciate the content, especially on strings. I have a RX1 and that string gave me fits forever with peep rotation, so finally putting custom strings on it as soon as they come in.
Torn between the Twisted-X and the Gas Ghost, have heard nothing but amazing things from both. Should probably wait to see what Gas comes out with soon!
I have had a few sets from twisted X over the years. They have been fantastic, always absolutely bang on in spec. No peep rotation. No string stretch or serving seperation, they have always lasted a very long time on my bows, honestly they are the best strings I have ever used and I've tried a lot of different manufacturers, haven't tried gas though so I can't comment on them but twisted X are definitely worth a look!
Do you have any experience with scorpion bow strings? If so what are your thoughts
We have installed a few sets...wasnt very impressed. Lots of peep rotation and the serving started to separate after only a few shots
Ghost xv still the best strings?
So I just received the colored ghost strings. Will they stretch
Not much, but, yes. There’s not a string that won’t stretch at all, but GAS strings have the least movement if seen.
I have the ABB platinum, just put paid to out them on. I got them as the in stock. Thought I had to wait 1 month for my gas. But my gas high octane came in. . Not sure if I should switch. Are they better than ABB? I heard that ABB string is slower is that true?
I just ordered gas strings and cables for my pse full throttle out of the factory 370 fps with my hunting arrow and broadhead when it was new I was getting somewhere around 327 ft per second I'm curious how these strings chronograph
Its going to shoot about the same. The speed rating is extremely misleading because it's done at 70#, 30" dl with a 350gr arrow. If you're getting 327 that's extremely fast
Does the Dow shoot better?
Just put some on my carbon spyder Hoyt 😁
Turbo
Nice name.
what string i need for Bear species?
What about cams I’m looking into making my bow either feel smoother or shoot fast or a little of both if possible and I haven’t been able to find any videos about aftermarket cams
No such things as after market cams unfortunately. Each bow model is engineered to work a specific cam, changing the cams messes with limb deflection, string and cable length, etc. It will shoot much worse
Inside Out Precision I have another dumbass qeustion for you then, I’ve had a compound bow that I bought from Walmart it’s from stingray and it’s an iglow that’s set up for 70 pounds and I’ve been looking into buying a new string for it I was just wondering what I would have to do to order a string for it from GAS
Whats wrong with 60# monofilament? I have bunches of it left over from fishing, and it seems to stretch very little if you don't use the bow. I think the string thing is like most of sporting gear. What was once a large difference between best and worst has narrowed. The best is really a term over used in the US. Sending in bow to custom string maker where they put strings on bow immediately after stretching is one selling point for one make. I think its ridiculous. Pick a quality string that your shop recommends and go with it. My shop Likes Barn Burner Strings, but they are quick to note the often maligned Zebra Strings started the modern era of string building. For me, if the peep keeps lining up, I really don't care. Also GAS has a long wait time right now.
Definitely don't use fishing line for a bow string.
@@InsideOutPrecision lol I like to use horse hair 🤣🤣🤣
I would like to have a pair of those strings for my p s E laser
Then order them!
I love Gas Bowstrings...They are fixing to drop an even better string any day now
So I hear! Can't wait
@@InsideOutPrecision I called gas strings this week and was talking to Eric there.oct 29 and he said no.there using a new string being brought out .Not even in 2020.may I ask where you got news of a new string being brought out
@@InsideOutPrecision this is not true.they have not releases a better string than ghost xv
Thos Gas Ghost XV strings are $130 or $150. And they're now available in camo.
Yeah we sell them for $156 installed and tuned.
Johns custom archery strings “WILL NOT MOVE....I’ve had many sets , and everybody claims this or that so it was hard to believe until a guy told me about them. Great strings so just like the guy in the video said there are string builders out there that know what they are doing , and there are those who don’t
do you think the new ghost XV camo version it's better, worse or the same than the white version?
and what's the difference between that two option : Ghost XV complete set (2/3 piece) 130$ and Ghost XV complete set(4/5 piece) 150$ ?
They're equally as good, I run the camo and haven't seen any movement, which I can't say about any other strings I've run. The 2-3 piece set is for a bow like older Hoyts or single cam's (2-3 strings/ cables). The 4/5 is for bows like the new mathews that have 5 strings/yokes.
is it necessary to install back speed nocks on a custom string set? my pro shop told me i dont need it but it came with my standard bow . im confused.
Ideally they should be
@@InsideOutPrecision i must have been misinformed , even normal one piece brass nock used as speed nock is better than nothing? because in Malaysia seems like that is the option i have left compared to whats available in USA .
How do these stings compare to ABBs?
Just as good as the abb platinums gas ghost are just as good I shoot both strings can't tell the difference
had good luck with last on the last few sets but thinking of going with the Ghost strings this time. anyone have white strings? did they get dirty fast or look decent for a year or year and a half..... its a target bow and gets shot a TON so I go through strings fairly quickly.
I mean they get a little dirty but they still look decent
The Ghost XV are now are available in a camo color
Yeah they have been for a few years now. Just not when this video was made
What is your experience with ABB bowstring?
Not really a fan. Lots of stretch and peep rotation. The gas ghost is the best there is
@@InsideOutPrecision awesome thanks man, definitely gonna go with the ghost then, basically same price point anyway 👌
Old video. Are you still recommending these as the best?
Yep!
BCY makes 452x...
Do you think the white will wear quicker
No, color has nothing to do with wear.
Inside Out Precision I really want these gas stings but why can’t he make them in Black and what strings do you use for your hunting bow I’m shooting a Mathews traix
@@minkmink410 they only come in white because that's the color of the material before it's dyed. Dye is what weakens the strings, so he doesn't use it on the Most series. Hopefully he'll figure out a way to make black ones though!
@@minkmink410 I shoot a Mathews Traverse for hunting, shot the Triax last year though!
How about vaportrail vtx
Probably the last string id recommend. Tons of stretch and peep rotation even though they advertise the opposite
Can you do a peep tie in video please
theres already 100's of these vids online.
function or not, you dont want to hunt with a bright ass'd white string. best to do what the manufacturer didn't and dye it beige to bring it it closer to camo. I see this everyday and i hate to quote "the principles" but lots of animals can see polarized UV light and ideally you want a bow, string and arrow that reflects the least amount of light rays off the sun. everything about the way light works says white is the last color you'd want your string to be since it reflects back the most amount of light of all colors.
I haven't seen the first one of this new generation of hunters talk at all about scent and how its best to wash your clothes with specialty hunters soap because stuff like Tide has UV reflective additives and perfume in it to make old clothes look and smell newer. like most millenials, they're always worried about equipment as if equipment made up for skills.
your +2 bow, +3 arrows and +3 sights will not make up for real huntsman skills.
Yeah, honestly if an animal is close enough to see the color of your strings its probably too late for them. I know lots of guys that have killed animals using those strings. You're kind of contradicting yourself by saying the color of the steings will spook animals and then saying fancy equipment won't make up for woodsmanship. How may old timers got it done in a plaid shirt and blue jeans that their wife washed with detergent from the grocery store?
And the reason you don't hear people taking about not washing clothes with Tide is because its pretty much basic common knowledge at this point, so it doesn't need to be talked about
What about people that shoot deer with White bows? Or Snow camo, or red, or blue bows? What about people who shoot deer in wearing solid color clothes, or plaid Flannel?
My old man smokes like a chimney in his stand and still drops them
I called gas strings and I was told a big no.thats there's no new string being introduced for 2020.not in the plans..idk y the op poster said gas is coming out with a new string.clearly they are not
Anybody know what camo colour that RX3 is please?
Optifade Elevated II
@@InsideOutPrecision thank you
Glad my Athens came with GAS strings stock!
Thoughts on vapor trail strings?
Not really a fan. I've installed quite a few sets and they have a lot of peep rotation and stretch.
@@InsideOutPrecision Agreed, regrettably purchased them and I would not recommend.
@@InsideOutPrecision to add to this: I've had peep rotation, stretch and now serving separation on my VaporTrail just in time for antelope season to start here in MT...
@@Clayton.Thompson honestly have never seen a good set. I see everything you just described on every set that has come through the shop
@@InsideOutPrecision went ahead and got the Ghost XV camos on the way. I appreciate your channel, man.
How can I order the strings for my bear motive 6 ??
Dont buy it make it.
@@sahhull haha most people don't have e the equipment or know how to make their own strings.
Go to your local pro shop or send your bow to us at The Bow Rack and we'll get you dialed
@@InsideOutPrecision But its not difficult and its a new skill... The string making skill and bow tuning is for me part of the sport. Its similar to driving and changing a tire, everyone should know how.. Then its up to them whether to use the skill or pay someone to do it for them.
Study up, find out who you wanna give a hundred bucks to, call them up and tell them what you want... Theyll charge your card and say thanks...then a week to 3months later it comes in the mail...
Creep and rotation
GAS Ghost
Question, i have the vxr 31.5. How many string sets do i order? 2/3 or 4/5?
4-5
I'm lucky enough to have a stringmaker that sits under the radar. Get my strings in a timely manner and every set he does he pays attention to every detail. Yall can keep paying those premium prices for strings made in bulk by these big companies lol.
How is that post helpful to anyone?
@@brokenarrow6491 Cry about a 7 month old post. Check your drawers homie, you missing a flap.
do you got gas
Any thoughts on abb strings?
They're pretty decent strings!
@@InsideOutPrecision they are at about the same price point for the ghost strings. I like the idea behind the gas strings and sound like better string than the abb
@@MikeyWoomer yeah the key with ABB is choosing the right material. Most guy go with BCY-X or 452x, but the ones I've installed still have a pretty decent amount of stretch. The ghost strings are a proprietary blend and they truly don't move. They're the only string I've come across ( and I've coke across A LOT) that don't move. They're taking the target world by storm and bow hunters are following suit. I'd go with the Ghost if I were you.
@@InsideOutPrecision amen sir thank you for information I really appreciate it
I am unconvinced by custom strings . All the bows I have had shot better with factory strings
Yeah there are a lot of crappy after market strings out there.
@@InsideOutPrecision but?
mathews strings are garbage ,and the mission riot
I used gas strings and lost 10 fps plus peep rotation. Boo
Haha then you didn't get your bow back into spec. You gotta make sure its making weight after installing them.