How it should have happened DIO: muhahahaha, no one can stop me now, you joestars are so weak, only a fool would just run in to a fight without realizing your getting one shotted, anyway time to attack Josuk8: GO BEYOND Speedwagon: SPEEDWAGON PUNCH DIO: *dead Jotaro: i think i had the same stand as him Speedwagon: don't worry jotaro, i'll use my reality warping powers to fix everything Dio did
Honestly, when I found out what The World Over Heaven could do, my first thought was that no one could beat him. I even joked that Jotaro could just pull a “same type stand” bullshit. I regret a lot of things now, because I sucked the tension out of the gameplay for myself
*DIO gains God like powers and becomes a high tier reality warper* Some fatherless chainsmoking dolphin loving 17 year old kid with big muscles from Japan: 🗿
@@zirotsero6951 *the anti drug gangster that a 17 years old who had a dead vampire dad and inject himself with stand steroid and winning against time skip user* The guy who had amnesia and four balls just accidentally removes calamity : 🗿
@@TheAceOfSpades1922 Some 16 year old bastard child of a 57 year old man who is pissy about his hair and turns a man into a rock and another into a book: 🗿
The Fact that DIO Over heaven lost to Jotaro will never cease to amaze me at the poor writing of JoJo Eyes of Heaven, seriously they gave Jotaro the biggest plot armor ever man
That was always an asspull. In JoJo, you never see two Stands having the exact same ability. For example, both Horus and White Album can control ice, but the way they do it is different. Horus can create ice, while White Album lowers temperature.
Honestly, considering the rate that Dios time stops increases, I genuinely can only see a max of like an hour of time stop before any growth becomes useless.
@@Blackspidy619 The only time having more than like 20 seconds or even a minute would be useful is against like multiple overpowered characters that would require him to use every second he has to win the fight before he gets taken out by a combo move.
When a villain's introduction scene involved him bodying three of the most powerful protags in the series in like, under a minute, that's a pretty good sign you've got a pretty good antag on your hands.
@@EaterOfDeceasedInfants389 ..Why is every word in your reply capitalized? I digress though. Yes, that is true. But "good antag" and "good story" are pretty different things.
@@Hades-cv1gt Generally speaking, an important aspect of writing villains is how much of a threat they are overall - and, as Dio was more or less intact as a character save a slight difference in motivation, the other aspect (good characterization) is already covered. Heaven-ascended Dio is a well written character; the problem is everything else around him in the narrative isn’t.
Gappy when this game was first released: I’ve got nothing to help this situation. Jotaro: so you’re saying that I need to defeat DIO because I have the same type of Stand as him. Gappy: sure go ahead. Gappy now: I’ve literally got NOTHING to help this situation. Jotaro: so you’re saying that I need to defeat DIO because I have the same type of Stand as him. Gappy: my bubbles don’t exist. They can help. Jotaro: you’re contradicting yourself. Gappy: For the love of God. The context back then and now makes Gappy hit differently.
I still don't get what does Go Beyond have that makes it so high on many people's tier list. It's got nonexistent bubbles that can bypass basically anything. Now that's cool, but for them to harm you at all they need to hit you, and they're extremely inaccurate. Furthermore, other than making a giant hole on you, they don't appear to do much else. I don't see him winning against TWOH with its regenerative power. Literally just tank the GB shots, regenerate, casually approach Gappy, punch him out of existence. Tf is he gonna do?
@@MadAshchaos3 Gappy himself told everyone to get away before he finished off a resurrected WoU because he can't aim Go Beyond very well, at that point he already got rid of the rock insect thingy
Pov WoU vs over heaven : Over heaven : who is this old dude, i will punch the sh.t out of him Punch WoU WoU : WAIT, he touched me, calamity rising Over heaven died of seizure
I really liked the idea of using paralel universe version of his bracelet to destroy his fist and therefore his reality warping. It really hammers down the point that he is powerful and both vilains and good guys banding together to take him out. Imagine Kira being forced to use BTD to reset everyone back after a failed plan, or to force DIO into a better position, heaven's door could have made a big impact, D4C would have been instrumental to retrieve the bracelet from another universe, the hand would've been great to get DIO away from people he's about to punch etc...
I have a feeling that, with ''same type stand'' thing, it's sorta the writers' way of keeping DIO in check and having jotaro just always counter him lolol, kinda like a flash and reverse flash type thing
I think the whole idea of TWOH just completely ignoring the "return to zero" and Love Train abilities is that it just overwrites reality to make those abilities not work
I would like to note something else that the only problem that OH DIO has with his range is Rewriting Reality. He was able to teleport Valentine to him, even when Valentine said himself that he didn't know many Universes he ran through, and possibly just deleted him from Every timeline depending on how you take the line "You no longer exist, anywhere." Also, when he teleports in his boss fight, the timestop effect & sound effect plays with no one being able to see him, possibly meaning that possibly his Time Stop would work on others who resist timestop.
I have a theory that when dio and pucchi went to achieve heaven they discovered the requeim arrow and he added it with his heaven plan , this explains why goirno said that their stands are similar. (Sorry for my bad English)
@@epic-gamer57 ya my theory isn't perfect it has it's flaws . But at least ger and twoh have similar abilities because they are requim stands theory better than "it's the same type of stand"
issue i see with calamity and Go beyond is that they may continue to damage Dio over heaven but Dio is a vampire so they cannot kill him, unless calamity just pulls out the sun (if he already didn't rewrite his weakness to hamon and the sun).
@@organicelephant5416 It doesn't do anything to concepts it just doesn't exist in the eyes of the world. Also Calamity isn't even a type 1 concept, its nowhere near outer.
Calamity is basically bad misfortune as a power. Valentines ability (love train) is an ability that uses misfortune to defend its user and Valentine said his stand was USELESS against Dio (EoH) Even if that doesn’t work Dio could probably just stop time then erase calamity from the world or at-least from harming him
i think the misconception over infinite timestop comes from the definition of the ability to overwrite reality. theoretically using reality overwrite, dio can change his own ability to have no limits, like how he can self heal
It kinda makes sense why dio time stop never increased in time since he seems to have a tendency when he gets something stronger and better he just never uses the previous thing again or never improves them as when he acquired the world most if not all of his vampire abilities he never uses again so when he got twoh he only focused on its new found abilities and left old the world abilities almost unchanged
Yeah, they could have made TWOHeven more terrifying if Jotaro had said "It's... it's not the same... IT'S NOT THE SAME AS STAR PLATINUM!", and actually put emphasis on using his intelligence to find a way to use his Dio's arm rings against Heaven Dio, like another commenter said here
Having Dio's reality overwrite power restricted to his hands only is a great way to not make him overpowered. Funny how a jojo game handles it better than marvel with scarlett witch or thanos. Also I dunno what's with the saying that Dio has infinite timestop. It was never stated in the game. Seems like obviously he doesn't but for some reason there's this myth that he can. And Jotaro suddenly having Over Heaven ability is kinda lame, but this ending isn't that bad (although I think it would be better if the story was about Jotaro executing Dio's plan himself to evolve his stand). First thing is that Jotaro doesn't win only because of their soul/stand connection so that he has Over Heaven, but because he destroyed Dio's hands with his armlets, if he didn't have it, Dio would have killed him. So that's a smart move. He didn't win only thanks to him having the same stand (like in anime and manga), but also because he outsmarted his opponent using knowlege and resources he aquired from Funny Valentine. Second, thanks to that, Jotaro rewrites reality and we have the perfect ending to the whole series where every character, jobros etc survive, really wholesome ending.
Makes sense that DIO OH's time stop is infinite or near-infinite, considering it always went up in length each time he used it. Plus, it's Over Heaven. Can't be the ultimate evolution if you don't have more than 1 busted ability
And thats why we need a Death Battle of him fighting Infinite Ultron. But seriously, there were a bunch of things that were things either out of those parts or weren’t really explain in Eyes of Heaven when given experience from the series alone like how Johnny should have walked after unlocking Act 4 and how FF, Keicho, Diavolo’s minions, Leone Abbacchio, and literally EVERY OTHER CHARACTER FROM STEEL BALL RUN AND JOJOLION weren’t even explained of how they weren’t here given the revival powers of the corpse parts and reality bending abilities of DIO OVER HEAVEN
Actually making Dio's power restricted to his arms only is a great way to not make him overpowered. Funny how a jojo game handles it better than marvel with scarlet witch, thanos etc
What GER fans always says when someone bring up TWOH on the topic: "nOt CaNoN" What people mostly see on TWOH: "So it's the same type of stand as SP" They really thought TWOH is a joke
@@EaterOfDeceasedInfants389 at the end he overwrite that damage and beat the shit out of those powerful Joestar (at that time JoJolion Go Beyond chapter doesn't exist yet so Josuke JoJolion doesn't count). after all GER just hit TWOH hand also Tusk nails bullet was just a bullet. It could be easily be counter by a super human being stand like TWOH and SP. Also that is a proof that SP had stronger strength than GER and TA4
in the fight between jotaro and DIO dio states that now "he can stop time for only 5 seconds but in the future it will be 1m 1h and then how much he wants" so basicly infinite
9:37 maybe from the part 3 dub where DIO at on point talks about how his time stop could grow to the point where he can "stop time as long as he desires"
Wait, assuming that Dio's overwriting limits were just the corpse parts... Then imagine if Dio just wishes a requiem arrow into existence and stabs his stand to get The World Reqiuem Over Heaven.
I think the reason for the infinite timestop is because twoh is effectively the *perfect* stand, even trivialising requiem, so it makes sense that either through sheer being *that guy* or just rewriting his reality to have endless timestop
God i can only imagine how EOH would play out if OVA DIO became that monstrous being (which sadly OVA DIO isnt canon) he actually wanted to kill his enemies quickly without saying too much or doing anything too risky which is why he bombards Jotaro in the last minutes with the cargo ship and alternative method of the Oil Tanker which has more power to it than say the flattening road roller. Just a fun concept though.
EoH story or more precisely at the end. Literally saying that Jotaro special ability "The same type of stand" is no joke. It is broken Ability to have. I love thinking that the storywritter did this on purpose. And knowing the joke of "the same type of stand"
IMO, I think people seemed to assume DIo's Ts is infinite because of the "his timestop can grow infinitely" statement is taken wrong, I think there are a few other communities that fall under this too. Like the OPM fandom who claims that Saitama has infinite power, when it's actually infinite potential, another one is also from JoJo where people claim Pucci has infinite speed because of the notion that he can possibly speed up time indefinitely and keep racking up speed until he gains infinite speed
I just assume its infinite cus when you fight him in game he timestops, you cant even use jotaros action to walk in it, and the timestop is listed as infinite duration
Btw METAs to answer your question as to where the idea of EoH The World having infinite time stop came from, it came from one of the JoJo RUclipsrs. I believe it came from either Kaleb, XForts, or Meti. I'd cross out Kaleb since I recall he only talked it once on his channel, and I'm betting it might have been Meti as I can't remember if XForts has a video on TWOH.
9:29 i remember in the anime at one point where dio is explaining his time stop he says the amount of time he can stop will keep growing and eventually he’ll reach infinite time stop
The World Over Heaven ability is simply saying : "I doesn't like that world let's make a new one and remove this one" and also : "Let's see if you're good at dodging projectiles"
Even if he couldn't use reality overwrite on himself. If he isn't too cocky, he could rewrite reality by punching the ground or something and be extremely creative with it. Even with characters speed blitzing him. He could get creative.
Please please please make a video about novel kars and the other beyond characters from the George joestar novel. It would be really cool to see how they would stack up against the other characters. Also, it makes sense that wonder of u could beat dio as even if tooru dies the stand still remains but that isn’t the same for gappy. Soft and wet definitely has the an ability that could kill dio but if I’m not wrong the world is faster and has timestop which could mean he could hit gappy without being hit which means that even though gappy could kill dio he would just get speed blitzed
yea, reality warping ability can really only be challenged by other reality warpers. in other manga, there are 2 reality warpers in bleach, ichibei and yhwach, maybe
It's really late lol. Anyways, considering that Dio OH can create his own dimensions and as Valentine stated, hop dimensions. Dio OH can realistically just strike Tooru and WoU from another dimension with a reality overwritten projectile that can pierce through dimensions like that of Tusk Act 4 after getting hit by Calamity once or twice. WoU's ability is stated to be a Universal law, so going out of the Universe should be a legit way to dodge calamity
Shortest King Crimson ability explanation possible : "King Crimson's signature ability is to erase a given frame of time; it starts from the instant the ability is activated and can be made to last up to around 10 seconds. During this period of erased time, only Diavolo remains fully conscious and is the only one who can re-adjust his actions. Other people will be unable to experience anything that happens and will continue to act as they would have. After the effect of the ability ends, all people other than Diavolo will retain no memories of anything that happened during the erased period. After the allotted time frame, people will suddenly find themselves in the aftermath of the situation they were supposed to be in as the action could already be completed. For example, when Pannacotta Fugo asked Giorno Giovanna for the water bottle that they brought, the bottle was suddenly in Fugo's hand without Giorno ever actually handing it to him. Simply put, the Time Erasure ability removes the cause but the effect remains, as if you were to fast forward a program but still know what happened in that allotted time. In the manga, Diavolo sees the erased time as a void filled with juxtapositions of what would have happened during this period in a fashion akin to Nude Descending a Staircase, allowing him to think out the next best action (for instance, when Bruno Bucciarati tried to punch Diavolo during the erased time, Diavolo saw Bucciarati's superimposed positions during his punch). The anime adaptation has Diavolo visualize a ghostly red image of his foe's next move instead. In addition, Diavolo and King Crimson become "intangible" during time erasure, allowing attacks to pass through them, as the moment that the attack would have hit was erased. However, this also means Diavolo himself is unable to attack while King Crimson's time erasure is active. As a result, he often relies on the ability to avoid attacks and move into advantageous positions, such as an enemy's blind spot, then by using King Crimson's great destructive power, Diavolo launches attacks that are timed to make contact the moment the ability ends. He may also use said intangibility for a brief period of time in order to cause an attack to pass through him and hit a different target. However, Diavolo is also able to splatter his own blood onto an enemy's projection in anticipation of blinding them, as the blood is part of his body, the only thing he can interact with while the ability is active. Furthermore, actions that Diavolo would have carried out during the skipped time still happen, despite Diavolo not performing them. For instance, in the case where Time Skip is first used against Trish, he and King Crimson were fated to enter the elevator, separate Trish from her hand, and carry her out. Rather than doing that and risking fighting Bucciarati and Trish head-on, Diavolo skipped time so that Trish would come to him without any risk of harm or exposure to himself. It can be assumed that Fate itself (a concept described as being similar to that of gravity in the series) moves them to Diavolo/King Crimson after Skipped Time. If one has a watch or uses blood drops from a fresh wound, they can detect when exactly King Crimson has skipped time and for how long, but this does not guarantee that the target will be able to defend against its attack. Epitaph is a sub-Stand ability that acts as a complement to King Crimson's primary ability of time erasure. Diavolo and Doppio often use the forecasting ability of Epitaph to predict any incoming threat, making sneak attacks ineffective against them. Epitaph gives Diavolo/Doppio the ability to see several tens of seconds into the future and project it as an image. The future vision is usually represented as an image on the inside of their hair. The image produced includes the general area surroundings with the user as the main focus, allowing either of them to see what is going to happen to them, as well as around them. However, the visions are incomplete and only show the final result without the events leading up to it, and can thus be subject to interpretation. In one instance, Doppio could see himself on the ground with a severed human foot flying by; he initially thought that the foot was his own, but he was mistaken. The predictions that Epitaph shows the user are 100% fated to occur, only capable of being changed by Stand abilities that affect Fate, like Requiem Stands and King Crimson's main ability. This last one is what is primarily used to mitigate any problems that are shown in the prediction. While the predictions seen by Epitaph are unavoidable, they still effectively warn Diavolo and Doppio against incoming danger, allowing them to steer events to alleviate the damage, such as when Doppio realized a pair of scissors would form inside his throat, he easily tore them out in order to save himself. King Crimson itself can prevent the predictions from being completed if it erases the right timeframe when the prediction would have come true. Likewise, a Stand that affects Fate, like Gold Experience Requiem which can return King Crimson's power to the "zero" state, can simply make the vision false as it steers Fate to its advantage." Longest Star Platinum explanation : "Hehe punchy boy"
the reason for the infinite timestop is the same reason each Jotaro doesn't have a different time limit on time-stop, it's because in gameplay he's just DIO. it isn't like he get's his reality-warping in gameplay either. just say it's a low-ball of the ability as it factually should have increased but no material quantifies said increase
@@STPstudio47 i never said so either this is the problem with thinking in binary, the game doesn't say infinite but it also doesn't say 9 and we defacto know that the time will increase INDEFINATLY so long as DIO continues to live call it a low-ball cus that's what it is as we dont have more information. what SHOULD'VE been done is someone calculate how fast DIO's time increased and then span it to when you'd likely think DIO achieved heaven (id say a few years as the baby needed to grow) and you'd have a more acceptable answer... but he wasn't about to do that
Jake the dog from adventure time has the ability to warp reality with his imagination this is why when him and Finn were playing the floor is lava in the tree house Finn could only see normal reality but his shoe caught fire when he touched the floor because in Jake’s mind the floor truly is lava along with Jake’s ability to stretch into any shape he could theoretically stretch a stand more powerful than Dio’s it would most likely be something that represents GOLBETTY but even stronger
I thought that you had briefly mentioned in your SaWGB video that Josuke would be able to ignore The World OH’s ability because it operates on logic. So would DIO be able to work around that or does Josuke completely sweep him?
I think DIOOH would just kill Gappy before Go Beyond can even be fired. And damages from Go Beyond can be healed quite easily.(Imagine Go Beyond with Infinite Rotation deadliness tho 🥶)
so like, i know its been a while and it doesnt fit into the same level as the other stands you've covered on this series, but I feel like a Most Terrifying Stands video on Purple Haze would be great
I think the infinite time stop thing is because people confuse the fact that the more DIO uses time stop the longer it gets and could be theoretically infinite but only theoretically. Although if Heaven Ascension DIO can override or rewrite reality at will I think it is fairly safe to assume he could make his time stop be as long as he wanted it to.
Could Heaven Ascension DIO counter: *someone basically deleting the entire JOJO verse(everyone and everything included) from their own home verse. Thus deleting him before he even knows he needs to defend himself *Can he defend against his own end. Not his own death but his own end as everything ends eventually no matter how long it takes. Can he defend against something that make his end arrive instantly
For the first one. Star Platinum over heaven has tanked OH's Existance Erasure so OH probably could do the same to some extent because existance erasures arent all the same, so someone like Zeno probably can't but someone like rimuru probably can. And for the second one it depends on what is "end" if its his fated death, the end of the universe, etc its a case by case basis.
What I always enjoyed about his heaven plan is that it's basically a "real life" cheat code. Like arbitrary code execution in speed running when you perform a very specific set of inputs to manipulate the system memory so that the game does what you want, like warping you straight to the credits. Dio and Pucci subtly manipulated the reality of their universe to "spawn" the green baby, activated it by saying random seeming phrases and then had to get a very specific spot at a very specific time to make reality itself glitch out and basically re-roll their stands with a hefty dose of RNG manipulation.
One thing I’ll never understand is why almost every other villain got a main point in games or where elaborated on but Diavolo was just entirely abandoned I mean Rohan has a whole dang show but Diavolo just gets forgotten? It’s weird I don’t like how they just abandoned one of the coolest stands, especially if they decided to do something like eyes over heaven and make king crimson requiem
To be fair, there really isn't much to elaborate on for Diavolo. A lot of what makes him a good villain is the general lack of information on him. The closest thing we have to a backstory for him is described as more of an urban legend than actual truth.
It does sound like Araki may have concieved of Wonder of U as a Stand that was capable of defeating DIO Over Heaven- because even DIO Over Heaven was beaten by a Calamity (Jotaro having the rings of his AU self). Considering that Part 8 had barely begun at the time EoH was written, and the Rock Humans hadn't been introduced at the time, it was VERY likely around this time Araki had to be conceiving an antagonist power for Jojolion's main villain.
9:11 that is actually consistent with DIO getting new powers, specifically when he obtained The World he completely neglected his vampiric abilities favoring his time stop, makes sense for this to be the next step.
Fun Fact: considering the abilities that DIO Over Heaven has and can upgrade himself with, he’s actually considered to be one of the strongest characters in all of anime history, he might even be the strongest
Couldn't Dio just hit himself with his fist and make himself immune to Calamity? He would have to hit the Go Beyond bubbles, but Calamity is like an always active debuff. When your in range, your always under its effect. So when that happens Dio could just make himself a non factor to that power.
@pinkzero281 that makes sense. In my mind, if it were ever to play out, if Dio ever met the conditions, he would just heal himself. He would keep on going, but until he finds out what the power is and what it's doing, all he can do is heal the damage. If he should learn of its powers and it's conditions then he can make immunity or erase his memory but write out a new fate where he meets the stands owner and kill him.
I mean, Wonder of U's stand ability is all about misfortune, and Valentine, the guy whose Stand's power-up lets him redirect misfortune to his benefit, said that he was powerless against DIO Over Heaven.
i like the symbolism how he punches soenthing to change reality, basically he punches soemthing and it does what he says, a really thug ish mentality, how depsite all his complicated stuff Dio at his base is someone who dominates ithers throguh violence
you can tell me 1+1 is 2, and you might be right but say I say its actually 3, you'd disagree with me. Now, I beat you up for disagreeing with me and continue beating you up until you agree with me, eventually 1+1 will become 3
I feel obliged to add this, when you (Jotaro) as the player encounter DIO in the final encounter of the campaign, he openly states that he's already killed you tons of times and is just going on victory laps flexing throughout the innumerable realities that exist.
I don't think even LN Kars could defeat or take the Stand off of him, since his soul is just as ascended as one of an Ultimate Lifeform, because he did actually finish his Heaven Plan, unlike Pucci, who had to complete the universal reset first but Emporio happened.
I never liked how DIO has to spend time developing and evolving his abilities, and Jotaro is like "Our Stands are the same type, so they have the same ability." That part is one of those I hate the most in regards to JoJo's lore. Because let's be real, it makes no sense. So, just because their stands are similar, they have the exact same ability? I mean, White Album and Oasis are similar, but their abilities are nothing alike. And it's not like the World and Star Platinum are that similar. "Not much range, but immense power and precise movements." Bruh, The World has a range of 10 meters, while Star Platinum has a range of 2.
Dio Over Heaven’s infinite timestop logic is as follows. Dio had a Heaven plan and a plan for his stand in general. One of the goals was to stop time indefinitely so he can change the world however he wants. Considering that Dio Over Heaven is the Dio who won in his timeline it’s an assumption based on plot that he achieved his goal. It’s quite logical. Is it PIS? Hmmmmm I dunno
9:10 Imagine training your time stop, even with progressive overload, eventually you'll have to wait for literal months or years, in order to what, increase maybe 1 second??? if that is the rule on how it works. Still pretty OP, what does this reality-warping fist can do, if you can't even use it, or not aware that time literally did not move. It's just like dying suddenly, which is unbelievably scary, reality-warp becomes literally an added bonus, should be the first to be warped, if you don't have time-stop or not move in stop time, like DIO. edit: Imagine buying some groceries, and then suddenly, the world around you is way too far in the future just because one guy got a lot of time in his hands.
Twoh is not as powerful for your AVERAGE stand user as GER. My reasoning is, GER is automatic, Twoh is not as it requires thought or reaction time from its user. GER’s RTZ is basically unbeatable for any other stand except MAYBE Twoh and S&WGB, while Twoh has many different stands that can possibly defeat him within the correct circumstances, GER’s AP and speed are both irrelevant as it can attack during its RTZ meaning it could do it forever and Giorno and the opponent being MUDA MUDA’d wouldn’t know or be affected by how long it takes, and Twoh can Annihilate anyone from reality, but he must use his fists. GER has no real weaknesses at all, twoh cannot use it’s reality rewrite without use of its fists which CAN be destroyed. Overall GER is better, but in a 1v1 Twoh wins 7.5/10 times.
could dio over heaven touch himself with his fists and give himself a stronger stand so like he ACTUALLY has infinite timestop and he can beat wonder of u lmao?
This stand ruined my life
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Wasn't expecting to see you here, dawg!
Twoh solos!11!❗❗❗
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DIO: Its over Jotaro. I can rewrite reality with my fists.
Jotaro: Damn, it would be a shame if it was the same type of stand as Star Platinum.
Literally what happened LMFAO.
@@weskintime4177Star Platinum over Heaven!
How it should have happened
DIO: muhahahaha, no one can stop me now, you joestars are so weak, only a fool would just run in to a fight without realizing your getting one shotted, anyway time to attack
Josuk8: GO BEYOND
Speedwagon: SPEEDWAGON PUNCH
DIO: *dead
Jotaro: i think i had the same stand as him
Speedwagon: don't worry jotaro, i'll use my reality warping powers to fix everything Dio did
Ugh, this same joke, over and over again
@darkhound6199 funny enough it's not a joke this time, it's literally in the game and how Jotaro beats Dio
I love how most people dont count star platinum over heaven as a stand ever
LMAO
Even the stand wiki doesn't count it. It has the world over heaven in a separate page there but not star platinum over heaven
@@originalname5303also Star Platinum The World doesn't have its own page iirc
Oh I meant the jojowiki that looks like Wikipedia
because it robbed speedwagon of his victory, as revenge, he wiped it from existence
All that for Jotaro to say “so it’s the same type of stand as Star Platinum” and absolutely schmeckledorf Dio.💀💀💀
Jotaro said "ok and" and then punched Dio to dead
L + ratio + same Stand bozo
It won't work this time
@@darkhound7965it legit did, that's what happened in the game, lol
@@godlynew8895 Jojo didn't use his stand to win
Honestly, when I found out what The World Over Heaven could do, my first thought was that no one could beat him. I even joked that Jotaro could just pull a “same type stand” bullshit. I regret a lot of things now, because I sucked the tension out of the gameplay for myself
*DIO gains God like powers and becomes a high tier reality warper*
Some fatherless chainsmoking dolphin loving 17 year old kid with big muscles from Japan: 🗿
some guy with 4 balls:🗿
a stand with a microphone for a head :🗿
speedwagon:🗿
@@zirotsero6951fr 🗿
@@zirotsero6951 *the anti drug gangster that a 17 years old who had a dead vampire dad and inject himself with stand steroid and winning against time skip user*
The guy who had amnesia and four balls just accidentally removes calamity : 🗿
@@TheAceOfSpades1922 Some 16 year old bastard child of a 57 year old man who is pissy about his hair and turns a man into a rock and another into a book: 🗿
jesus I keep forgetting Jotaro pt3 is 17
The Fact that DIO Over heaven lost to Jotaro will never cease to amaze me at the poor writing of JoJo Eyes of Heaven, seriously they gave Jotaro the biggest plot armor ever man
Hahaha fr
Jotaro just realized the world over heaven is the same stand as star platinum 🤷♂️
That was always an asspull. In JoJo, you never see two Stands having the exact same ability.
For example, both Horus and White Album can control ice, but the way they do it is different. Horus can create ice, while White Album lowers temperature.
Bro it was WOU
I could honestly debate Jotaro beats DIO OH. No joke.
technically with reality overwrite dio can make infinite ice cream
Truly the most busted character in fiction
Conquering fate/and the world
buts it just so good
@@John34bruh
@@bryan-xl5vc agreed. Dio shoulda used TWOH to make ice cream for everyone
Would be the best jojo ending
he should give us a feast if he's gonna be a ruler
Honestly, considering the rate that Dios time stops increases, I genuinely can only see a max of like an hour of time stop before any growth becomes useless.
Funnily enough That's around where his time stop was in George Joestar
Unless it's a mirror match, anything past 20 seconds is kinda useless in a fight.
@@Blackspidy619 an instant win you mean
@@Blackspidy619 The only time having more than like 20 seconds or even a minute would be useful is against like multiple overpowered characters that would require him to use every second he has to win the fight before he gets taken out by a combo move.
@@Blackspidy619muda?
When a villain's introduction scene involved him bodying three of the most powerful protags in the series in like, under a minute, that's a pretty good sign you've got a pretty good antag on your hands.
Unfortunately, The Game's Plot Stopped Working After And Gave Jotaro The Most Plot Armor I've Ever Seen.
@@EaterOfDeceasedInfants389 ..Why is every word in your reply capitalized?
I digress though. Yes, that is true. But "good antag" and "good story" are pretty different things.
@@purplehaze2358That is opinion based actually but I agree
No, It only means you have a strong antagonist. "Strong" and "Well written" are not synonymes.
@@Hades-cv1gt Generally speaking, an important aspect of writing villains is how much of a threat they are overall - and, as Dio was more or less intact as a character save a slight difference in motivation, the other aspect (good characterization) is already covered.
Heaven-ascended Dio is a well written character; the problem is everything else around him in the narrative isn’t.
All that for jotaro to say " oh so its the same stand as star platinum " then proceed to violate dio
wild 💀
Ayo it's sage
That's fate, I guess
Yo wth I used to watch you
@@mlmoody3506 ty king
Gappy when this game was first released: I’ve got nothing to help this situation.
Jotaro: so you’re saying that I need to defeat DIO because I have the same type of Stand as him.
Gappy: sure go ahead.
Gappy now: I’ve literally got NOTHING to help this situation.
Jotaro: so you’re saying that I need to defeat DIO because I have the same type of Stand as him.
Gappy: my bubbles don’t exist. They can help.
Jotaro: you’re contradicting yourself.
Gappy: For the love of God.
The context back then and now makes Gappy hit differently.
That's true. XD
I still don't get what does Go Beyond have that makes it so high on many people's tier list. It's got nonexistent bubbles that can bypass basically anything. Now that's cool, but for them to harm you at all they need to hit you, and they're extremely inaccurate. Furthermore, other than making a giant hole on you, they don't appear to do much else. I don't see him winning against TWOH with its regenerative power. Literally just tank the GB shots, regenerate, casually approach Gappy, punch him out of existence. Tf is he gonna do?
@dalton2845 they were inaccurate because he had the rock virus on his hands so if he didn't have it he would aim alot better
@@MadAshchaos3 Gappy himself told everyone to get away before he finished off a resurrected WoU because he can't aim Go Beyond very well, at that point he already got rid of the rock insect thingy
Pov WoU vs over heaven :
Over heaven : who is this old dude, i will punch the sh.t out of him
Punch WoU
WoU : WAIT, he touched me, calamity rising
Over heaven died of seizure
I really liked the idea of using paralel universe version of his bracelet to destroy his fist and therefore his reality warping. It really hammers down the point that he is powerful and both vilains and good guys banding together to take him out.
Imagine Kira being forced to use BTD to reset everyone back after a failed plan, or to force DIO into a better position, heaven's door could have made a big impact, D4C would have been instrumental to retrieve the bracelet from another universe, the hand would've been great to get DIO away from people he's about to punch etc...
I have a feeling that, with ''same type stand'' thing, it's sorta the writers' way of keeping DIO in check and having jotaro just always counter him lolol, kinda like a flash and reverse flash type thing
My theory will always be that it's Jonathans fault
@OkPe-ww5rs wrong, Part 3 was finished waaaaay earlier
You forget that the JoJo's Franchise is about 35-36 years old now
@OkPe-ww5rs yea, the Anime came Out around 2014, the Manga came Out in the 90s.....
@OkPe-ww5rs so you're spreading hard misinformation
Dio over heaven: My stand is the most terrifying thing imaginabl-
Those fucking rings: you sure?💀
Imagine loosing your reality warping ability because of your drip.
@@ProjektTaku Honestly sounds like Dio.
@@rafaeloyarzun6337 Imagine Jotaro had Three rings(the third one isn't for marriage, or arms for that matter)
@@ProjektTaku LOL
I think the whole idea of TWOH just completely ignoring the "return to zero" and Love Train abilities is that it just overwrites reality to make those abilities not work
I would like to note something else that the only problem that OH DIO has with his range is Rewriting Reality.
He was able to teleport Valentine to him, even when Valentine said himself that he didn't know many Universes he ran through, and possibly just deleted him from Every timeline depending on how you take the line "You no longer exist, anywhere."
Also, when he teleports in his boss fight, the timestop effect & sound effect plays with no one being able to see him, possibly meaning that possibly his Time Stop would work on others who resist timestop.
hey~
If he fully absorbed the holy corpse there is no range issue.
Just a plot issue. He shoulda rewrote Girono, jotaros, and johnnys abilities when he first barraged them
He stops time in stopped time to stop his opponents
@@theimpirialistorioLayers of time stop
I have a theory that when dio and pucchi went to achieve heaven they discovered the requeim arrow and he added it with his heaven plan , this explains why goirno said that their stands are similar.
(Sorry for my bad English)
Nah, hes saying the abilities are similar not the stands check 11:18
@@epic-gamer57 ya my theory isn't perfect it has it's flaws .
But at least ger and twoh have similar abilities because they are requim stands theory better than "it's the same type of stand"
@@abdelrahman2781 yeah but your only evidence is that giorno and twoh's abilities are similar
@@epic-gamer57 fair enough
People trying to not say "Sorry for my bad english" after writing the most grammatically correct and masterfully redacted sentence I've ever read
issue i see with calamity and Go beyond is that they may continue to damage Dio over heaven but Dio is a vampire so they cannot kill him, unless calamity just pulls out the sun (if he already didn't rewrite his weakness to hamon and the sun).
Or you know calamity could break his arms. Go beyond probably isnt enough tho
@@organicelephant5416 It doesn't do anything to concepts it just doesn't exist in the eyes of the world. Also Calamity isn't even a type 1 concept, its nowhere near outer.
@@organicelephant5416Gappy already got his ass beat by Dio in EOH
Calamity is basically bad misfortune as a power. Valentines ability (love train) is an ability that uses misfortune to defend its user and Valentine said his stand was USELESS against Dio (EoH)
Even if that doesn’t work Dio could probably just stop time then erase calamity from the world or at-least from harming him
@@organicelephant5416 Either way Dio could just teleport away or purple mist him again and then he’s done for
Dio: achieves new power
Joraro: you know the rules and so do i, say goodbye
infinite timestop probably just came from the idea of "oh, he can overwrite reality? why not overwrite his time stop limit?"
idk, just a thought
O def
i think the misconception over infinite timestop comes from the definition of the ability to overwrite reality. theoretically using reality overwrite, dio can change his own ability to have no limits, like how he can self heal
in part 3 DIO himself says that he eventually can stop time for as much as he want if he completely heal
@@NoOne-gg5zu❤
He probably doesn’t NEED infinite time stop because he’s so fast that in 9 seconds he can do anything he wants
It kinda makes sense why dio time stop never increased in time since he seems to have a tendency when he gets something stronger and better he just never uses the previous thing again or never improves them as when he acquired the world most if not all of his vampire abilities he never uses again so when he got twoh he only focused on its new found abilities and left old the world abilities almost unchanged
Bro is like a rpg game when you get stronger items you never go use old ones again
Yeah, they could have made TWOHeven more terrifying if Jotaro had said "It's... it's not the same... IT'S NOT THE SAME AS STAR PLATINUM!", and actually put emphasis on using his intelligence to find a way to use his Dio's arm rings against Heaven Dio, like another commenter said here
Having Dio's reality overwrite power restricted to his hands only is a great way to not make him overpowered. Funny how a jojo game handles it better than marvel with scarlett witch or thanos.
Also I dunno what's with the saying that Dio has infinite timestop. It was never stated in the game. Seems like obviously he doesn't but for some reason there's this myth that he can.
And Jotaro suddenly having Over Heaven ability is kinda lame, but this ending isn't that bad (although I think it would be better if the story was about Jotaro executing Dio's plan himself to evolve his stand).
First thing is that Jotaro doesn't win only because of their soul/stand connection so that he has Over Heaven, but because he destroyed Dio's hands with his armlets, if he didn't have it, Dio would have killed him. So that's a smart move. He didn't win only thanks to him having the same stand (like in anime and manga), but also because he outsmarted his opponent using knowlege and resources he aquired from Funny Valentine.
Second, thanks to that, Jotaro rewrites reality and we have the perfect ending to the whole series where every character, jobros etc survive, really wholesome ending.
Makes sense that DIO OH's time stop is infinite or near-infinite, considering it always went up in length each time he used it. Plus, it's Over Heaven. Can't be the ultimate evolution if you don't have more than 1 busted ability
Dio could just use reality overwrite on himself to get infinite timestop
@@Retardius he could overwrite himself to make it so that he doesnt need to touch things with his fists to overwrite them
@@Airbelt yeah, sucks he didn't think of that
@@RetardiusWell we don't know if he can make himself buffer, he can restore wounds but there's no indication of improving his body/abilities with it
And thats why we need a Death Battle of him fighting Infinite Ultron. But seriously, there were a bunch of things that were things either out of those parts or weren’t really explain in Eyes of Heaven when given experience from the series alone like how Johnny should have walked after unlocking Act 4 and how FF, Keicho, Diavolo’s minions, Leone Abbacchio, and literally EVERY OTHER CHARACTER FROM STEEL BALL RUN AND JOJOLION weren’t even explained of how they weren’t here given the revival powers of the corpse parts and reality bending abilities of DIO OVER HEAVEN
When a stand is too overpowered to be canon. And yet I know an even more omnipotent stand exist in a non-canon novel !
The beyond?
George is a light novel not a manga and it's technically not even a stand
@@cyrus8886thanks for the correction. I know it doesn't count as a stand but I also referenced Kars, who can replicate other stands.
Actually making Dio's power restricted to his arms only is a great way to not make him overpowered. Funny how a jojo game handles it better than marvel with scarlet witch, thanos etc
@@STPstudio47kinda true ngl !
@@cyrus8886novel kars , novel dio , Jesus part 7 , the beyond
What GER fans always says when someone bring up TWOH on the topic: "nOt CaNoN"
What people mostly see on TWOH: "So it's the same type of stand as SP"
They really thought TWOH is a joke
Bro Beat GER And Tusk Act 4 Without Taking Any Hits But Got Damaged At His Skull By Jotaro💀
@@EaterOfDeceasedInfants389 at the end he overwrite that damage and beat the shit out of those powerful Joestar (at that time JoJolion Go Beyond chapter doesn't exist yet so Josuke JoJolion doesn't count). after all GER just hit TWOH hand also Tusk nails bullet was just a bullet. It could be easily be counter by a super human being stand like TWOH and SP. Also that is a proof that SP had stronger strength than GER and TA4
Keep in mind, this is with only 8 holy corpse parts. Had he gotten all 9 of them he would've been able to straight up reality warp
in the fight between jotaro and DIO dio states that now "he can stop time for only 5 seconds but in the future it will be 1m 1h and then how much he wants" so basicly infinite
Always a good day when Metas uploads.
4:14
I honest to god thought you were gonna say, "The part everyone wants to know about. How strong is [Speed Wagon within Heaven]"
Eyes of Heaven should've ended with Hell Jonathan VS Over Heaven Dio.
Just look at all the sins Dio did with Jonathan's body.
9:37 maybe from the part 3 dub where DIO at on point talks about how his time stop could grow to the point where he can "stop time as long as he desires"
Maybe there would still be a limit but so high he never needs more.
@@monkeywrench1290yet dio still finds a way to lose
Wait, assuming that Dio's overwriting limits were just the corpse parts... Then imagine if Dio just wishes a requiem arrow into existence and stabs his stand to get The World Reqiuem Over Heaven.
Seeing you casually drop Kaleb I.A.'s channel made me smile so wide, love when JoBros connect.
I think the reason for the infinite timestop is because twoh is effectively the *perfect* stand, even trivialising requiem, so it makes sense that either through sheer being *that guy* or just rewriting his reality to have endless timestop
God i can only imagine how EOH would play out if OVA DIO became that monstrous being (which sadly OVA DIO isnt canon) he actually wanted to kill his enemies quickly without saying too much or doing anything too risky which is why he bombards Jotaro in the last minutes with the cargo ship and alternative method of the Oil Tanker which has more power to it than say the flattening road roller. Just a fun concept though.
3:00
Pucci in EOH confirms that he didn't know it previously but there is more than 1 way to heaven.
EoH story or more precisely at the end. Literally saying that Jotaro special ability "The same type of stand" is no joke. It is broken Ability to have.
I love thinking that the storywritter did this on purpose. And knowing the joke of "the same type of stand"
I love these Videos! I can sleep to them so well, thank you!
IMO, I think people seemed to assume DIo's Ts is infinite because of the "his timestop can grow infinitely" statement is taken wrong, I think there are a few other communities that fall under this too. Like the OPM fandom who claims that Saitama has infinite power, when it's actually infinite potential, another one is also from JoJo where people claim Pucci has infinite speed because of the notion that he can possibly speed up time indefinitely and keep racking up speed until he gains infinite speed
Pucci can reach infinite speed, when he reaches singularity and universal reset happens, his speed becomes infinite
I just assume its infinite cus when you fight him in game he timestops, you cant even use jotaros action to walk in it, and the timestop is listed as infinite duration
I mean his speed stat literally has an infinity sign on it
They might mean composite dio which is with all feats and statements possible idfk
@@kit_ts6087 my dude I'm talking about regular dio
Btw METAs to answer your question as to where the idea of EoH The World having infinite time stop came from, it came from one of the JoJo RUclipsrs. I believe it came from either Kaleb, XForts, or Meti. I'd cross out Kaleb since I recall he only talked it once on his channel, and I'm betting it might have been Meti as I can't remember if XForts has a video on TWOH.
Honestly wish that _somehow_ Jonathan beat him. It would've been full circle, pretty cool.
9:29 i remember in the anime at one point where dio is explaining his time stop he says the amount of time he can stop will keep growing and eventually he’ll reach infinite time stop
i always took the whole infinite timestop thing to be a hypothetical scenario in which he would basically rewrite the timer for timestop back to max
The World Over Heaven ability is simply saying : "I doesn't like that world let's make a new one and remove this one" and also : "Let's see if you're good at dodging projectiles"
Even if he couldn't use reality overwrite on himself. If he isn't too cocky, he could rewrite reality by punching the ground or something and be extremely creative with it. Even with characters speed blitzing him. He could get creative.
The moment I saw the blog post about it months ago I’ve been hyped for this.
Dio learned ONE ability after reaching heaven....
That is..."so its the same type of stand as the world".
1:15 because DIO is totally not a musical reference
Please please please make a video about novel kars and the other beyond characters from the George joestar novel. It would be really cool to see how they would stack up against the other characters. Also, it makes sense that wonder of u could beat dio as even if tooru dies the stand still remains but that isn’t the same for gappy. Soft and wet definitely has the an ability that could kill dio but if I’m not wrong the world is faster and has timestop which could mean he could hit gappy without being hit which means that even though gappy could kill dio he would just get speed blitzed
yea, reality warping ability can really only be challenged by other reality warpers. in other manga, there are 2 reality warpers in bleach, ichibei and yhwach, maybe
WE MAKING IT TO HEAVEN WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
been a while since I've had the time to watch METAs but its a genuine treat to come back and see my favorite non-canon antagonist.
I always wondered who would win in a fight between The World Over Heaven vs Wonder of U.
It's really late lol. Anyways, considering that Dio OH can create his own dimensions and as Valentine stated, hop dimensions. Dio OH can realistically just strike Tooru and WoU from another dimension with a reality overwritten projectile that can pierce through dimensions like that of Tusk Act 4 after getting hit by Calamity once or twice. WoU's ability is stated to be a Universal law, so going out of the Universe should be a legit way to dodge calamity
Shortest King Crimson ability explanation possible : "King Crimson's signature ability is to erase a given frame of time; it starts from the instant the ability is activated and can be made to last up to around 10 seconds.
During this period of erased time, only Diavolo remains fully conscious and is the only one who can re-adjust his actions. Other people will be unable to experience anything that happens and will continue to act as they would have. After the effect of the ability ends, all people other than Diavolo will retain no memories of anything that happened during the erased period. After the allotted time frame, people will suddenly find themselves in the aftermath of the situation they were supposed to be in as the action could already be completed. For example, when Pannacotta Fugo asked Giorno Giovanna for the water bottle that they brought, the bottle was suddenly in Fugo's hand without Giorno ever actually handing it to him. Simply put, the Time Erasure ability removes the cause but the effect remains, as if you were to fast forward a program but still know what happened in that allotted time. In the manga, Diavolo sees the erased time as a void filled with juxtapositions of what would have happened during this period in a fashion akin to Nude Descending a Staircase, allowing him to think out the next best action (for instance, when Bruno Bucciarati tried to punch Diavolo during the erased time, Diavolo saw Bucciarati's superimposed positions during his punch). The anime adaptation has Diavolo visualize a ghostly red image of his foe's next move instead. In addition, Diavolo and King Crimson become "intangible" during time erasure, allowing attacks to pass through them, as the moment that the attack would have hit was erased. However, this also means Diavolo himself is unable to attack while King Crimson's time erasure is active. As a result, he often relies on the ability to avoid attacks and move into advantageous positions, such as an enemy's blind spot, then by using King Crimson's great destructive power, Diavolo launches attacks that are timed to make contact the moment the ability ends. He may also use said intangibility for a brief period of time in order to cause an attack to pass through him and hit a different target. However, Diavolo is also able to splatter his own blood onto an enemy's projection in anticipation of blinding them, as the blood is part of his body, the only thing he can interact with while the ability is active. Furthermore, actions that Diavolo would have carried out during the skipped time still happen, despite Diavolo not performing them. For instance, in the case where Time Skip is first used against Trish, he and King Crimson were fated to enter the elevator, separate Trish from her hand, and carry her out. Rather than doing that and risking fighting Bucciarati and Trish head-on, Diavolo skipped time so that Trish would come to him without any risk of harm or exposure to himself. It can be assumed that Fate itself (a concept described as being similar to that of gravity in the series) moves them to Diavolo/King Crimson after Skipped Time. If one has a watch or uses blood drops from a fresh wound, they can detect when exactly King Crimson has skipped time and for how long, but this does not guarantee that the target will be able to defend against its attack. Epitaph is a sub-Stand ability that acts as a complement to King Crimson's primary ability of time erasure. Diavolo and Doppio often use the forecasting ability of Epitaph to predict any incoming threat, making sneak attacks ineffective against them. Epitaph gives Diavolo/Doppio the ability to see several tens of seconds into the future and project it as an image. The future vision is usually represented as an image on the inside of their hair. The image produced includes the general area surroundings with the user as the main focus, allowing either of them to see what is going to happen to them, as well as around them. However, the visions are incomplete and only show the final result without the events leading up to it, and can thus be subject to interpretation. In one instance, Doppio could see himself on the ground with a severed human foot flying by; he initially thought that the foot was his own, but he was mistaken. The predictions that Epitaph shows the user are 100% fated to occur, only capable of being changed by Stand abilities that affect Fate, like Requiem Stands and King Crimson's main ability. This last one is what is primarily used to mitigate any problems that are shown in the prediction. While the predictions seen by Epitaph are unavoidable, they still effectively warn Diavolo and Doppio against incoming danger, allowing them to steer events to alleviate the damage, such as when Doppio realized a pair of scissors would form inside his throat, he easily tore them out in order to save himself. King Crimson itself can prevent the predictions from being completed if it erases the right timeframe when the prediction would have come true. Likewise, a Stand that affects Fate, like Gold Experience Requiem which can return King Crimson's power to the "zero" state, can simply make the vision false as it steers Fate to its advantage."
Longest Star Platinum explanation : "Hehe punchy boy"
the reason for the infinite timestop is the same reason each Jotaro doesn't have a different time limit on time-stop, it's because in gameplay he's just DIO. it isn't like he get's his reality-warping in gameplay either.
just say it's a low-ball of the ability as it factually should have increased but no material quantifies said increase
The game never states he has infinite timestop
@@STPstudio47 i never said so either
this is the problem with thinking in binary, the game doesn't say infinite but it also doesn't say 9 and we defacto know that the time will increase INDEFINATLY so long as DIO continues to live
call it a low-ball cus that's what it is as we dont have more information. what SHOULD'VE been done is someone calculate how fast DIO's time increased and then span it to when you'd likely think DIO achieved heaven (id say a few years as the baby needed to grow) and you'd have a more acceptable answer... but he wasn't about to do that
@@_Sage967_ Well since he gained a new ability maybe it influenced his timestop becoming default
Love your style of editing and presentation. Keep it up 👍
Dio spends his entire life to become a god only to get his skull broken again by a 17 year old jotaro
Ngl dio literally got bamboozled
"Oh so it's the same type of stand as star platinum"
Jake the dog from adventure time has the ability to warp reality with his imagination this is why when him and Finn were playing the floor is lava in the tree house Finn could only see normal reality but his shoe caught fire when he touched the floor because in Jake’s mind the floor truly is lava along with Jake’s ability to stretch into any shape he could theoretically stretch a stand more powerful than Dio’s it would most likely be something that represents GOLBETTY but even stronger
I thought that you had briefly mentioned in your SaWGB video that Josuke would be able to ignore The World OH’s ability because it operates on logic. So would DIO be able to work around that or does Josuke completely sweep him?
I think DIOOH would just kill Gappy before Go Beyond can even be fired. And damages from Go Beyond can be healed quite easily.(Imagine Go Beyond with Infinite Rotation deadliness tho 🥶)
so like, i know its been a while and it doesnt fit into the same level as the other stands you've covered on this series, but I feel like a Most Terrifying Stands video on Purple Haze would be great
9:57 That's true, but can't he just give himself an infinite time stop with his hax?
yes
I think the infinite time stop thing is because people confuse the fact that the more DIO uses time stop the longer it gets and could be theoretically infinite but only theoretically. Although if Heaven Ascension DIO can override or rewrite reality at will I think it is fairly safe to assume he could make his time stop be as long as he wanted it to.
Could Heaven Ascension DIO counter:
*someone basically deleting the entire JOJO verse(everyone and everything included) from their own home verse. Thus deleting him before he even knows he needs to defend himself
*Can he defend against his own end. Not his own death but his own end as everything ends eventually no matter how long it takes. Can he defend against something that make his end arrive instantly
For the first one. Star Platinum over heaven has tanked OH's Existance Erasure so OH probably could do the same to some extent because existance erasures arent all the same, so someone like Zeno probably can't but someone like rimuru probably can. And for the second one it depends on what is "end" if its his fated death, the end of the universe, etc its a case by case basis.
What I always enjoyed about his heaven plan is that it's basically a "real life" cheat code. Like arbitrary code execution in speed running when you perform a very specific set of inputs to manipulate the system memory so that the game does what you want, like warping you straight to the credits.
Dio and Pucci subtly manipulated the reality of their universe to "spawn" the green baby, activated it by saying random seeming phrases and then had to get a very specific spot at a very specific time to make reality itself glitch out and basically re-roll their stands with a hefty dose of RNG manipulation.
One thing I’ll never understand is why almost every other villain got a main point in games or where elaborated on but Diavolo was just entirely abandoned I mean Rohan has a whole dang show but Diavolo just gets forgotten? It’s weird I don’t like how they just abandoned one of the coolest stands, especially if they decided to do something like eyes over heaven and make king crimson requiem
To be fair, there really isn't much to elaborate on for Diavolo. A lot of what makes him a good villain is the general lack of information on him. The closest thing we have to a backstory for him is described as more of an urban legend than actual truth.
It does sound like Araki may have concieved of Wonder of U as a Stand that was capable of defeating DIO Over Heaven- because even DIO Over Heaven was beaten by a Calamity (Jotaro having the rings of his AU self). Considering that Part 8 had barely begun at the time EoH was written, and the Rock Humans hadn't been introduced at the time, it was VERY likely around this time Araki had to be conceiving an antagonist power for Jojolion's main villain.
I will only ever accept The World Over Heaven as a Stand when Araki includes it in a part, making it canon
9:11 that is actually consistent with DIO getting new powers, specifically when he obtained The World he completely neglected his vampiric abilities favoring his time stop, makes sense for this to be the next step.
Ger and act 4 can’t even hurt dio oh. Jotaro WHO IS WEAKER THAN THAN THE TWO! Manages to land a hit and hurt it?
Jotaro literally straight up punch dio himself in the head, while the other 2 get countered by TWOH's fist
Act 4 aint shit
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the world over heaven isnt even a threat anymore, its a promise.
DIO absolutely could have infinite timestop. He could just punch himself and say “I have infinite timestop now” and it will be done
4:35 he doesn’t destroy Golden Experience Requiem, It’s just TWOH's reality bending powers take priority over GER's “truth”
Fun Fact: considering the abilities that DIO Over Heaven has and can upgrade himself with, he’s actually considered to be one of the strongest characters in all of anime history, he might even be the strongest
You think he’s beating the anti spiral or even Simon from TTGL?
Couldn't Dio just hit himself with his fist and make himself immune to Calamity? He would have to hit the Go Beyond bubbles, but Calamity is like an always active debuff. When your in range, your always under its effect. So when that happens Dio could just make himself a non factor to that power.
I don't see why he can't
@pinkzero281 that makes sense. In my mind, if it were ever to play out, if Dio ever met the conditions, he would just heal himself. He would keep on going, but until he finds out what the power is and what it's doing, all he can do is heal the damage. If he should learn of its powers and it's conditions then he can make immunity or erase his memory but write out a new fate where he meets the stands owner and kill him.
I mean, Wonder of U's stand ability is all about misfortune, and Valentine, the guy whose Stand's power-up lets him redirect misfortune to his benefit, said that he was powerless against DIO Over Heaven.
If Rohan lands a hit:
You're my bitch now Dio, I am the Heaven Stand original user.
i like the symbolism how he punches soenthing to change reality, basically he punches soemthing and it does what he says, a really thug ish mentality, how depsite all his complicated stuff Dio at his base is someone who dominates ithers throguh violence
you can tell me 1+1 is 2, and you might be right but say I say its actually 3, you'd disagree with me. Now, I beat you up for disagreeing with me and continue beating you up until you agree with me, eventually 1+1 will become 3
I feel obliged to add this, when you (Jotaro) as the player encounter DIO in the final encounter of the campaign, he openly states that he's already killed you tons of times and is just going on victory laps flexing throughout the innumerable realities that exist.
I don't think even LN Kars could defeat or take the Stand off of him, since his soul is just as ascended as one of an Ultimate Lifeform, because he did actually finish his Heaven Plan, unlike Pucci, who had to complete the universal reset first but Emporio happened.
That Kars has every stand but requiem, so he probably has TWOH requiem or some bs.
@@randomyoutuber2633 Requim is needed via the Arrow, I imagine there wasn't a Requim stand yet even then imagine what Kars' own stand could be
kars would copy Twoh and turn into twohu. thats his whole thing. He sees hability/aspect, passively understand and gets an ultimate version of it.
I think it would've been cooler if instead of Jotaro it was Jonathan who stood up against The World Over Heaven
I never liked how DIO has to spend time developing and evolving his abilities, and Jotaro is like "Our Stands are the same type, so they have the same ability."
That part is one of those I hate the most in regards to JoJo's lore. Because let's be real, it makes no sense. So, just because their stands are similar, they have the exact same ability? I mean, White Album and Oasis are similar, but their abilities are nothing alike. And it's not like the World and Star Platinum are that similar. "Not much range, but immense power and precise movements." Bruh, The World has a range of 10 meters, while Star Platinum has a range of 2.
Dio: With The World Over Heaven i'm the strongest.
Novel Kars: Are you sure about that?
0:22 evangelion reference?
Dio Over Heaven’s infinite timestop logic is as follows. Dio had a Heaven plan and a plan for his stand in general. One of the goals was to stop time indefinitely so he can change the world however he wants. Considering that Dio Over Heaven is the Dio who won in his timeline it’s an assumption based on plot that he achieved his goal. It’s quite logical. Is it PIS? Hmmmmm I dunno
you should do novel kars next!
"You aren't faster than me."
Dio overwrites reality and makes himself 10x faster
Finally, the most overpowered stand in JoJo...
Oh wait its not canon.
9:10 Imagine training your time stop, even with progressive overload, eventually you'll have to wait for literal months or years, in order to what, increase maybe 1 second??? if that is the rule on how it works. Still pretty OP, what does this reality-warping fist can do, if you can't even use it, or not aware that time literally did not move. It's just like dying suddenly, which is unbelievably scary, reality-warp becomes literally an added bonus, should be the first to be warped, if you don't have time-stop or not move in stop time, like DIO.
edit: Imagine buying some groceries, and then suddenly, the world around you is way too far in the future just because one guy got a lot of time in his hands.
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Plz do Light novel kars
Great video keep up the good work fr fr.
@bruhisbest5121 he already did, it's called no
The ending to this video is just screaming for the comment interactions 😭😭😭
Bet
Thanks so much for your efforts bro... Enjoyable video
Twoh is not as powerful for your AVERAGE stand user as GER. My reasoning is, GER is automatic, Twoh is not as it requires thought or reaction time from its user. GER’s RTZ is basically unbeatable for any other stand except MAYBE Twoh and S&WGB, while Twoh has many different stands that can possibly defeat him within the correct circumstances, GER’s AP and speed are both irrelevant as it can attack during its RTZ meaning it could do it forever and Giorno and the opponent being MUDA MUDA’d wouldn’t know or be affected by how long it takes, and Twoh can Annihilate anyone from reality, but he must use his fists. GER has no real weaknesses at all, twoh cannot use it’s reality rewrite without use of its fists which CAN be destroyed. Overall GER is better, but in a 1v1 Twoh wins 7.5/10 times.
well i mean we thought chariot requiem was op and it had some bs weakness, nothing is TRULY unkillable and unbeatable in jjba
@@AhmedAlmohamed-u2y true
5:22 hey man great video btw you forgot to link the scaling
could dio over heaven touch himself with his fists and give himself a stronger stand so like he ACTUALLY has infinite timestop and he can beat wonder of u lmao?
Yes he could
Yes. It’s proven cuz he touched himself and used reality overwrite then. This was after jotaro punched him
FINALLY WE HAVE BEEN WAITING META'S
Who else is here after Dio ruined Giorno chance of winning against Joker? 😂 Dio hatred for Joestar is #1
now we need videos about
The Fool
The Hand
Enigma
Justice
and High Priestess