Such a shame, they’ve gone all Seiko QC on us, and jacked the price up too😢 I think I would have lived with the cheap pressed clasp and hollow end links at $200 ( I did before) but doesn’t feel right at another $120 . Great work as ever!
They ALL have this flaw...... I uploaded a couple of videos highlighting the flaw on August 14th.. Still a great watch despite the lack of lume pip and the school boy error...
I have the watch on the way coming and by the time i did the order from a shop in Germany there where hardly any reviews out. A couple of Thailand ones i think. I knew about the luck of the lume pip and don't really care. But this miss print😢. I wish i knew earlier.
Thank you man! Fingers crossed but i believe the odds are against me. The seller was expecting it for a couple of days from orient and the shipped it to me. It is supposed to arrive at the beginning of this week. I will let you know when I get it .I can not believe that their qc missed something so big. I have an other orient watch and it's really hitting higher of it's price point. Cheers!
@@halfpastblogHi! I received the watch and it has the misprint. The dial is amazing and i really like it. I could live with the flaw but of course it would be better if it wasn't there.
I had ordered the purple mako 40 because to me the specs are great, I don't mind the missing lume pip, and the dial is gorgeous...but I had missed that error, now I can't unnotice it. I saw this video at the perfect moment, it was still possible to cancel the order and I did. I hope they fix the error and rerelease it, I'll buy it in a second! 👍
I don't know anything about this Half Past Blog channel but having you here, Shane , commenting in a positive way inspires confidence. Orient definitely made a few boo boos, but these Mako 40mm watches still do look very nice.
I had to get one especially after watching this video. Its amazing. The white/silver dial is memorizing. I like the misprint dial too, its gonna be worth millions someday. The first thing im gonna do is dive 200 meters to test the lumetip. Thanks for the info
Hello, I am writing to you from Turkey. I want to buy the Mako 40. I like it very much and is it a suitable watch for me in deep waters? I will buy Orient brand for the first time
It’s too bad such a great looking watch but that 26 seconds and no lume is a little annoying. I am looking for a steel bezel diver this one is so close
The pip on my Mako II USA fell out sometime in the last year. It's my daily beater and needs a new bezel ring anyway. But a mistake like this should never had made it past QC.
@@halfpastblog Namokimods told me the standard Mako/Ray bezel should be the same bezel. Not a lot of people seem to have one of these, as they were only sold in the US, so crossing my fingers. Really just need a new insert for it, but I planned on a coin edge bezel replacement anyways.
@@halfpastblog You mean ceramic? I've seen ceramic inserts for the makos.The Mako II USA already has a sapphire crystal, the main reason it's my daily beater. I've beat the snot out of this watch for about 4 years now and the crystal is still immaculate.
Thanks for pointing this out! I haven't read all the comments but has anyone noticed there is a second second marker that's off? It's the one at second 33! Not quite as bad as the 26 one but still it's off to the right! I don't even know if it's a deal breaker or a deal maker, because, are we ever gonna see this on an Orient again? I bet not. 😂
Just looked at the new photos on orients website, and they seem to have fixed it ! Question is, which retailer has the outdated models and sends them out, and which has the new fixed ones
This significant boo boo reminds me of the line from "The Departed". "Who the [expletive] are you?" "I'm the guy who does his job; you must be the other guy."
This is a great vid. And man…are you ever right that you can’t un-see that misprint. My one takeaway is honestly would they please just re-release an exact size and design with updated parts of that 1964 Olympia though?!
@@halfpastblog 39.8mm according to a website profiling the differences Orient made when they did the Orient Star version. Come on Orient, just re-release this one exactly as it looked haha.
Oh man such good looking watch with a size that my wrist can wear. Shame that I cant go with it to my weekly 200m dive into depths of the ocen. In this days I don't think anny real diver would chose mechnical watch with a rotating bezel to time his dives over a diving computer, there is just no way. Diving computer will keep your timing under water and how deep you and becous it has a screen not a dial the visibility under water is infinitly beeter. Why are people so obsessed with lume and high watter resistance while most hardcore think they will do to watch is to take it to swinig pool and submerge it just under the watter level. Why?
seems like they fixed the issue with the misaligned index...watches from the new production line are OK! Now the older ones ... odds are, they will become highly collectible ! so no worries if you got the mk1!
Just discovered the channel and subscribed. Well spotted! Coincidentally, as I watch this, I'm wearing my 2011 Orient Mako XL with the orange bezel. A biggie at 44.5mm but ok for my 8.1" wrist. Also no lume pip on the bezel. I do scuba dive myself but only use this if I'm snorkeling as the lume on the dial isn't so good either. But it's great, looks fantastic, and the shake to wake movement is very accurate. As for this, it's a shame nobody saw it, however if they become deeply discounted as a result, I might be tempted by that lavender dial!
How gross! They could have new dials made & swap them in, but it would take a chunk out of whatever profit they hoped to make on these. Good on your part to spread awareness of this. 👍
A side rant: Why do they/we insist on calling any Orient dive watch a "Mako". The classic definition was that the dials with the 3-6-9-12 digits was a Mako. Those without were the Ray. Whatever. 🙄😝😂
Your videos are becoming more and more professional my friend, praise and recognition! Maybe, but only maybe, this watch with a meaningful clasp and a lumed bezel would be worth it to pay 300 Euros. But in this condition and the mistakes you found - never! Back to the drawing board, Orient, let´s wait for the next. Thanks for this enlightenment, Alton, hope to see you again soon 👍👍👍
Nobody cares about the lume pip. And regarding the 26th second marker, that is a cool quirk that will make it collectible. Go find a Rolex with a mis-print on the dial.... they are gold. :) That said..... I love these watches. They look cool, have good proportions, come in cool colours and are cheap as chips. If the crystal is a decent sapphire, they've got a winner.
Hey great attention to detail. I watch the other channels you refer to, how amazing is that fault in the dial. Fresh eyes and great attention to detail. Well done! I am now a subscriber.
From measuring the indices in this video, the 26 mark appears to be at about 25.72 minutes, or 25min 43 sec. This would mean it hits that 26min mark about 17 secs early. I would love to know the actual story behind this mistake.
Although this is not the first video on RUclips addressing the dial error, it is probably the first one to voice out the seriousness of the issue, so nice work. Yes, Orient should be thoroughly embarrassed...unbelievable!
Isn't this something over nothing? It was a launch mistake and yeah it shouldn't have happened. That said once spotted it was easy to rectify. As a 'problem' it no longer exists. I'm buying one of these as it's an Explorer 2 homage for nothing money.
sir how could you judge something you didn't even have physically on your hand i believe reviewing something you don't even see in person is a disservice
I'd say most Orients I've purchased the last couple of years have had QC issues. Sometimes I've just been unable to unsee them once I've noticed then, and ended up selling the watches at a discount.
@@halfpastblog but I don't care. They've dropped the price by $100 on some sites. So you're getting a better movement. Who cares about something you'd need a microscope to see.
A misprint like this, 50 or 100 years down the road these may be highly collectable for that misprint like a half stamped coin in coin collecting lol That being said I hope they do have to discount them and not to pre-inflation normal but to even lower to get them sold. Don't buy now wait for the discount folks because if we buy these despite the flaws then all companies will do is continue to cut corners and quality and mark up prices!
Does yours have this flaw? Let me know!
Such a shame, they’ve gone all Seiko QC on us, and jacked the price up too😢 I think I would have lived with the cheap pressed clasp and hollow end links at $200 ( I did before) but doesn’t feel right at another $120 . Great work as ever!
That's a good point. My Orient Defender remains one of my best value watches at the old pricing.
This is normal orient…. Watch comes out at high msrp and after a few months, prices settle at around $200 USD. This is nothing new.
Scoop of the year right here! Nice catch.
Ha ha. Thanks!
They ALL have this flaw......
I uploaded a couple of videos highlighting the flaw on August 14th..
Still a great watch despite the lack of lume pip and the school boy error...
I will check them out!
Wait... I did see your video earlier this week. And that's one video among a few that helped me know it wasn't a one off issue. Subscribed!
🙂@@halfpastblog
Good eye. I was planning on getting the white but might hold off for now.
I'm wondering if/when they fix it.
@@halfpastblog have they fixed it? I would like to buy this watch.
@@blackbamboo9610yes,they fix it
The misprinted batch is now collectables... who would have thought
Just got one as an anniversary gift and the one I have does not have the dial error. They’ve fixed it!
That's great!
Big brother Seiko QC is trickling down…?!
Good point! 🤣🤣
Rumor has it that Seiko fired that guy from the production line and he recently got hired by Orient.
@pdriver7269 Thanks for the compliment...to BOTH of us! I LOVE Alton's videos, too!
Awwwww thanks a lot! 👍👍👍👍🍻🍻🍻
@pdriver7269 I've been really fortunate to have amazing support from a lot of fellow Reviewers. It's a great community. 👍👍
Well spotted, the spacing on the other side of six o'clock at 32 to 34 mins aren't much better tbh
Ya... I was wondering if that was the case. Without one in hand it's hard to tell.
First day printing error. A collector's item perhaps.
Designed on a Friday at 4:55?
Shame Orient Shame.
The lack of lume pip is an odd choice but the squished 26 is an abominable error. Thanks for calling this out!
Definitely shouldn't have been missed! Thanks.
Lol…. Now I really want a flawed one! Makes the watch unique and gives you a funny story.
Hopefully they are released worldwide soon.
I have the watch on the way coming and by the time i did the order from a shop in Germany there where hardly any reviews out. A couple of Thailand ones i think. I knew about the luck of the lume pip and don't really care. But this miss print😢. I wish i knew earlier.
Let me know if yours is also misprinted. Good luck!
Thank you man! Fingers crossed but i believe the odds are against me. The seller was expecting it for a couple of days from orient and the shipped it to me. It is supposed to arrive at the beginning of this week. I will let you know when I get it .I can not believe that their qc missed something so big. I have an other orient watch and it's really hitting higher of it's price point. Cheers!
@@halfpastblogHi! I received the watch and it has the misprint. The dial is amazing and i really like it. I could live with the flaw but of course it would be better if it wasn't there.
@@bozosni I'm sorry to hear it has the misprint but it sounds like you are going to enjoy it nonetheless.
I had ordered the purple mako 40 because to me the specs are great, I don't mind the missing lume pip, and the dial is gorgeous...but I had missed that error, now I can't unnotice it. I saw this video at the perfect moment, it was still possible to cancel the order and I did. I hope they fix the error and rerelease it, I'll buy it in a second! 👍
Glad you saw this in time. If they fix it I'd definitely consider purchasing.
It's being sold in Jomashop for 219
You know someone is getting fired for this. Great video, especially some of those shots.😃
Lol thank you so much for the video! 🤣🤣🤣
Hi Shane! A watch for around 300 Euro with a cheap, pressed clasp PLUS this "mistakes" - let´s fire them all!
I don't know anything about this Half Past Blog channel but having you here, Shane , commenting in a positive way inspires confidence.
Orient definitely made a few boo boos, but these Mako 40mm watches still do look very nice.
@@skipinkoreaable Shane is a paid endorser of this channel. Don't believe him. 🤣🤣
That defect can be colector item 🤗
Maybe the messed up second marker will become highly desirable in the future like misprinted stamps 😂
Fingers crossed for those who bought.
It's a really good looking watch though! Fingers crossed there's a discount for the ones with a far off 26th second marker. 😅
It is! Good to see you, Eve.
Hi Eve!
@@halfpastblog Hi Alton!
@@holgermuller3597 Hello!
I had to get one especially after watching this video. Its amazing. The white/silver dial is memorizing. I like the misprint dial too, its gonna be worth millions someday. The first thing im gonna do is dive 200 meters to test the lumetip. Thanks for the info
Nice video. Thanks for pointing that out.
Thanks! My pleasure.
Hello, I am writing to you from Turkey. I want to buy the Mako 40. I like it very much and is it a suitable watch for me in deep waters? I will buy Orient brand for the first time
Yes it is. Orient makes great stuff.
It’s too bad such a great looking watch but that 26 seconds and no lume is a little annoying. I am looking for a steel bezel diver this one is so close
Maybe a second Gen will be released. Or if it goes on clearance I'm snagging one.
@@halfpastblog or maybe it’s the prototype but I highly doubt that
As long as it doesn’t mess up with time accuracy, it’s not that big of an issue…
Thanks for the video and the great laugh!! Cheers!!!
And thanks for watching!
The pip on my Mako II USA fell out sometime in the last year. It's my daily beater and needs a new bezel ring anyway. But a mistake like this should never had made it past QC.
Hopefully you can buy a new bezel.
@@halfpastblog Namokimods told me the standard Mako/Ray bezel should be the same bezel. Not a lot of people seem to have one of these, as they were only sold in the US, so crossing my fingers. Really just need a new insert for it, but I planned on a coin edge bezel replacement anyways.
Oh ya... I'd never have thought of that. But like you say, the bezel should be the same. I wonder if Long Island Watch sells a sapphire bezel upgrade?
@@halfpastblog You mean ceramic? I've seen ceramic inserts for the makos.The Mako II USA already has a sapphire crystal, the main reason it's my daily beater. I've beat the snot out of this watch for about 4 years now and the crystal is still immaculate.
@@Aaron48219 yes. Ceramic. Sorry.
Is the lume dot an issue since Orient isn't claiming this is a certified "dive" watch as defined by ISO? Dive-style, yes.
Thanks for pointing this out! I haven't read all the comments but has anyone noticed there is a second second marker that's off? It's the one at second 33! Not quite as bad as the 26 one but still it's off to the right! I don't even know if it's a deal breaker or a deal maker, because, are we ever gonna see this on an Orient again? I bet not. 😂
I thought it was off too, but hard to tell from pics.
Just looked at the new photos on orients website, and they seem to have fixed it ! Question is, which retailer has the outdated models and sends them out, and which has the new fixed ones
Very interesting!
This significant boo boo reminds me of the line from "The Departed".
"Who the [expletive] are you?"
"I'm the guy who does his job; you must be the other guy."
👍🤣
You're right, and i hate that you're right, because that is otherwise a watch i rather like.
Same
Well spotted 😁. I watched the Brave Beater review and didn't see it 😂
Almost missed it. Sometimes your eye reads it as crystal distortion and ignores it.
This is a great vid. And man…are you ever right that you can’t un-see that misprint. My one takeaway is honestly would they please just re-release an exact size and design with updated parts of that 1964 Olympia though?!
I didn't do enough research to find out the original size. Do you know what it was?
@@halfpastblog 39.8mm according to a website profiling the differences Orient made when they did the Orient Star version. Come on Orient, just re-release this one exactly as it looked haha.
I would buy one at a discount. I would call it my mako26. It kinda keeps with the theme of misaligned japanese diver.
I like this a lot!
"my mako26" -- thats great
Oh man such good looking watch with a size that my wrist can wear. Shame that I cant go with it to my weekly 200m dive into depths of the ocen. In this days I don't think anny real diver would chose mechnical watch with a rotating bezel to time his dives over a diving computer, there is just no way. Diving computer will keep your timing under water and how deep you and becous it has a screen not a dial the visibility under water is infinitly beeter. Why are people so obsessed with lume and high watter resistance while most hardcore think they will do to watch is to take it to swinig pool and submerge it just under the watter level. Why?
That's a great question and I don't have an answer.
Either of these issues would affect me. Still considering a blue dial
Right on.
seems like they fixed the issue with the misaligned index...watches from the new production line are OK! Now the older ones ... odds are, they will become highly collectible ! so no worries if you got the mk1!
I my be skeptical but I don't see them being collectable. At least not in terms of them going for higher prices.
@@halfpastblog well.... I was kidding actually
@@silverstar2835 😂
Shit, now I cant unsee it either.... 😂😂😂 Looks inspired by the Seiko SPB 185J1....
You're welcome. 🤣
Great eye my friend
Thanks!
Maybe they'll have a recall??😅
Great video, Alton. And sharp eye. What a strange error to go unnoticed throughout production!
It's certainly strange.
Just discovered the channel and subscribed. Well spotted! Coincidentally, as I watch this, I'm wearing my 2011 Orient Mako XL with the orange bezel. A biggie at 44.5mm but ok for my 8.1" wrist. Also no lume pip on the bezel. I do scuba dive myself but only use this if I'm snorkeling as the lume on the dial isn't so good either. But it's great, looks fantastic, and the shake to wake movement is very accurate. As for this, it's a shame nobody saw it, however if they become deeply discounted as a result, I might be tempted by that lavender dial!
Thanks for the sub! Nice to hear your older watch is holding up well. I think Orient generally has great quality for the price.
How gross! They could have new dials made & swap them in, but it would take a chunk out of whatever profit they hoped to make on these. Good on your part to spread awareness of this. 👍
Thanks! I'm interested to see what they do.
The rumour has it that they will take them back and replace the dials. Time will tell though
Cool! Where did you hear that?
Good job of noticing!!!!
Thanks!
That is one more reason to buy them as soon as possible as it will soon be collectable gem. Or it is not?
My guess is that there are too many made and the watch not collectible enough for that to happen.
A side rant: Why do they/we insist on calling any Orient dive watch a "Mako". The classic definition was that the dials with the 3-6-9-12 digits was a Mako. Those without were the Ray. Whatever. 🙄😝😂
Ya, it isn't much like it's predecessor but that's what they called it on the website.
I wonder will this become a collector version if they fix all mass production/ future versions 🤔
Maybe!
Good catch. May be a collectible because of the error.
I'm interested to see if that's what they become. My guess is there are too many already misprinted for them to be collectible
That black dial is the Kamasu, Not Mako.
Well spotted Alton .i must admit if i bought one i couldn't not look at it . Nice watch though.
Thanks mate
Right? Every single time.
Your videos are becoming more and more professional my friend, praise and recognition! Maybe, but only maybe, this watch with a meaningful clasp and a lumed bezel would be worth it to pay 300 Euros. But in this condition and the mistakes you found - never! Back to the drawing board, Orient, let´s wait for the next. Thanks for this enlightenment, Alton, hope to see you again soon 👍👍👍
Thank you, my friend. I learn something new each time.
Nobody cares about the lume pip. And regarding the 26th second marker, that is a cool quirk that will make it collectible. Go find a Rolex with a mis-print on the dial.... they are gold. :)
That said..... I love these watches. They look cool, have good proportions, come in cool colours and are cheap as chips. If the crystal is a decent sapphire, they've got a winner.
It’ll be so funny if this messed up dial would be highly sought after in the future.
Agreed
A flawed one won't be a collector watch. Orient has recalled these watches.
I agree
Look at the watch on the left. 4:13 Not the best crown/crown guard alignment. Craftsmanship?
One of the many reason why I will never buy an Orient.
I have had two that were flawless. Small sample size though to be fair.
Hey great attention to detail. I watch the other channels you refer to, how amazing is that fault in the dial. Fresh eyes and great attention to detail. Well done! I am now a subscriber.
That's great! Thank you very much. 👍👍👍
Just bought one. I'm hoping I get the one with this flaw hahaha
From measuring the indices in this video, the 26 mark appears to be at about 25.72 minutes, or 25min 43 sec.
This would mean it hits that 26min mark about 17 secs early.
I would love to know the actual story behind this mistake.
Me too!
Although this is not the first video on RUclips addressing the dial error, it is probably the first one to voice out the seriousness of the issue, so nice work. Yes, Orient should be thoroughly embarrassed...unbelievable!
Thanks very much!
Isn't this something over nothing? It was a launch mistake and yeah it shouldn't have happened. That said once spotted it was easy to rectify.
As a 'problem' it no longer exists. I'm buying one of these as it's an Explorer 2 homage for nothing money.
This is an old vid, my man. I hope they have corrected it by now.
Jayson sent me here .
What a great dude. Welcome!
@@halfpastblog! Me or Jayson 🤭
@@juniorjohnson5961 ha ha ha. I was speaking about Jayson as you and I are newly acquainted but I'm certain that you have a lot to offer. 🤣🤣
@@halfpastblog ✊
This watch is Awesome
Great video and why are you guys not subbed yet? You all are the bigger embarrassment if you’re not.
You beautiful Legend!
sir how could you judge something you didn't even have physically on your hand
i believe reviewing something you don't even see in person is a disservice
Ummmmm. Pictures. Duh!
I'd say most Orients I've purchased the last couple of years have had QC issues. Sometimes I've just been unable to unsee them once I've noticed then, and ended up selling the watches at a discount.
That's too bad. I've owned two that were perfect. But they are over five years old.
A small channel, Outsider Watches, highlighted the error a few days ago!
I'm amazed so few are. Must be due to limited release.
Thanks Philip!
I'm here thinking....what the f.. is he on about?
And now you know.
@@halfpastblog but I don't care. They've dropped the price by $100 on some sites. So you're getting a better movement. Who cares about something you'd need a microscope to see.
200m is more than enough for divers, its a sports watch anyways, not a dedicated dive watch. Lol
A misprint like this, 50 or 100 years down the road these may be highly collectable for that misprint like a half stamped coin in coin collecting lol
That being said I hope they do have to discount them and not to pre-inflation normal but to even lower to get them sold.
Don't buy now wait for the discount folks because if we buy these despite the flaws then all companies will do is continue to cut corners and quality and mark up prices!
Yup. I'm going to sit and wait to see what happens.
No me gustan nada los diseños de Orient
What brand do you prefer?
@@halfpastblog Seiko