I'd kill just to see some more prelude into the apocalypse for it happens. Like actually getting police reports from Indonesia where the first infected was sighted instead of just analyzing its corpse. It was still pretty cool nonetheless.
But zombies.... Seriouy I believe that is the direction they are taking. Its more of a drama then a zombi outbreak. Kind of like later seasons of the Walking Dead but with a higher budget. Obviously the relationship between the two main characters will be the shows primary focus with zombies going "Rawr arggg" in the background.
Oh great, if this stays more a character drama than about the zombies, that means 100% of zombie films and TV shows relegate the zombies to some background threat, rather than the cause of the apocalypse.
@@franksegui4478have you played the games… because zombies were ALWAYS the background… tlou2 is probably going to upset you if you’re in it for the infected
The acting of the tv host at 2:22 is so great. The subtle change from "This guy's just talking nonsense, but I'll humor him" to "genuine interest and growing horror at the direction this could go"
Right? When he furrowed his brow at "slightly warmer", it made me think he was recalling an article he may have read recently about the "global warming" threat. Excellent acting.
@Hanstein. what rhymes nothing rhymes from my perspective and I read it over and over and over and over again to get what you mean to get what you meant.
The way he said it sounded like someone who’s really thought about this, and has since made peace with the fact there is nothing that can be done if it happens.
There's at least one thing that can be done tough: isolation. It's not like TWD where everyone in the planet is already infected regardless of what they do. You need to be in the vicinity of the fungus to get it, and don't let modern globalization fool you: planet Earth is f*cking HUGE. There are lots of places where people could seclude themselves and live relatively normal lifes. Hell, some places may not even notice the world falling apart at all. When he said "we lose", I take it as the loss of civilization, land and lives. The world wouldn't be the same again. But humanity would prevail.
@@moteroargentino7944 Isolation didn't work very well for us last time. The more advanced humanity becomes, the less people are out of reach. Siberia and the stretches of northern Canada and the Anatarctic could even be at risk not too far from now. In many ways, they already are. In a would-be scenario, the smarter people would run to the north or the south. Forced to flare out. Nobody is ever perfectly safe.
As an old actor, I say this scene is brilliantly crafted. Superb performance that slowly, with out hyperbolic bs, builds to show the danger. Almost Lovecraftian...
@@blackberry8615 we are, but not because of the Cordyceps. It would take hundreds of years for the fungus to adapt to the heat and I don’t see humanity being around in a few hundred more years. So we don’t need to worry.
Yes, the way the entire crowd goes silent and motionless all at once, frozen in the horror of what they're hearing is itself a mirror to the fungi controlling all of humanity. This series opening is as unforgettable as the opening to HBO's The Newsroom. m.ruclips.net/video/bIpKfw17-yY/видео.html
the host face reaction from when the scientist started talking about climate change until the end was soo good, so you can see the uneasiness and fear creeps into him
seriously...this is not scary. and the crowd reaction comes off way to forced and predictable, like the whole scene was actually playing out predictably.
Fungi are kind of an odd one out of all the living things. Prior to 1960, it was generally thought they're just plants, but it took some digging deeper to realize they don't actually fit to plant category and aren't like corals (which are classified as animals).
@@OniLeafNinNot exactly. Becoming more pathogenic, yes, but candida cannot and will never be able to turn you into a zombie. Cordyceps however, were it to suddenly jump to mammals, potentially could do something analogous. Not sure if it'd present like in this series, but it would not be good. I'm thinking more along the lines of rabies, you wouldn't be functional enough past a certain point for any deliberate action like chasing someone down. That is, unless some jackass scientists in a sketchy government lab were able to decode _exactly_ how Cordyceps does what it does, correlate that with specific genes, and then deliberately do something really... Stupid
He kinda forgot to talk about how temperature isn't the only thing preventing cordyceps from infecting humans like it infects insects. It took millions of years of co-evolution for cordyceps to infect insects, and it only works because they don't have antibodies in their immune systems. Humans are much more complex organisms, and the human immune system would absolutely dunk on any attempt at anything resembling a cordyceps infection. In fact, cordyceps has been used for centuries in traditional Chinese medicine for its wide array of health benefits, which have also been documented in scientific studies, so consuming cordyceps is actually good for you.
This is by far, one the greatest intros to a show ever. You have a professor, specialist explaining in simple terms, the seriousness of a pandemic of this kind, followed by the ignorance and sarcasm from the host and audience. By the end of it though, the look on the hosts face, is priceless
I like this type of idk what it is called. I call them Science Horror. Explaining about some type of pandemic that can't be stopped even using fire (I heard that the cordyceps can survive high heat). According to my experience (and you too who's reading this), we all know this will spread very fast even If we tried to warn, prevent and stop this pandemic/endemic. Why? Look what happened during the COVID-19 pandemic. No one can stop ignorance except ourselves. I think you know what I mean. History can be stopped from repeating if we all learn from it. But, we'll never learn......
@@ADcommenter But that's only 35 years later. John Hannah is 61 now. If we assume his character is around his age, that would put him at 96 by the time the pandemic hits. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he could have still been alive.
@@Saimeren the average man lives until the age of 75. So him already being 6 feet under is definitely a possibility. And i guess he should be thankful about it.
I love how John Hannah went from being actor who mostly did comedy to more serious roles, being "that exposition guy", somewhere after he got the part in Spartacus. Dude can deliver exposition for five minutes and not make it dull.
Ohh shit i forgot he was in Spartacus sand and blood fuck that show was bomb as hell R.I.P Andy Whitfield dude was amazing so sad to see him leave is at such a young age
@Tarrin Pun That is a correct assumption, not to mention fungi produce penicilium which is form of antibiotics. So therefore it all clicks together that fungus can produce some sort of immunity suppresant
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From this scene I realize that the best horror is anxiety. Semi-truth. It tricks audiences into thinking that it might happen IRL. It might happen IRL makes it scary
@@freddekl1102 an antifungal cream, which treats fungal growth of the outer epidermal layer, to a fungi-based neurological infection would be like trying to treat strep throat with hand soap. The show isn't far off, we don't have any "antibiotic" like drugs to rid our bodies of a fungal infection. That's probably more to do with the fact that we don't really need them though. We could probably develop something if we had to.
I'm a huge fan of John Hannah. His character here is debonair, articulate, good-humored, unruffled despite the insults and chillingly correct. I wish we could see more of him.
Seeing John Hannah deliver these lines totally in character is chilling... totally versatile character. Slightly smug yet delivering doomsday prophecy with seriousness and straight facts without hesitation.. and yet you remember him blurting Aegyptian spells and goofing around in mummy.. you rewlise how excellent actor he is. Stole the show for himself and only came in for 3 minutes.
@@erenkaskarli9436 i was answering you. you asked what OP meant. i answered that the show (Last of Us) explained the cause of the apocalypse in a few minutes vs. Walking Dead taking 11 seasons
The explanation of the fungus cordyceps here is so perfect and it was very easy to understand without replaying the scene. This is actually my favourite part of the series.
For those who don't know, the man sitting on the left is John Hanna. He starred alongside Brenden Fraser in the Mummy trilogy. I was happy to see him make an appearance in TloU
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Part of what’s freaky is that, given the time jump from this point to the start of the outbreak was about 35 years, much of the audience was probably still alive to experience what was being discussed.
Probably explains why no one likes the fireflies because they all understand that a vaccine is impossible, as is said here. TV show ruined it's own ending by ripping off I am Legend.
The perfect contrast between a doctor who have studied these type of things his whole life, and doesn't feel the anxiety and the panic anymore, he just accepts the facts, and someone who just heard the possibilities for the first time and now is feeling pure terror. Brilliant.
Because at that point, it is an impossibility. It'd be like an astronomy professor feeling anxiety and panic over the powers of the universe. Like, one of the things that could happen is that a cosmic laser hits Earth, and wipes us out. No warning. No chance to take cover, no chance of survival. Extinction in the blink of an eye for those lucky, while a massive heat up and the Earth blowing up for those who managed to survive the initial hit. The odds of us being hit by a laser are astronomically low. But it's never zero. Here, the doctor knows what fungus can do, but only if the odds hit it to reach that state. There was no fungi at that point in time that was able to do what he said would happen, until the astronomical odds hit that number, and cordyceps did. He was calm, because, while he was talking about it, it was essentially not going to happen. Not in the world he was living in at that time.
well he does have a point fungus can take us over if they adapt to our body heat that is literally all it would take so saying it's not possible is the biggest mistake you can make accepting it can happen and being prepared like having anti fungal's ready for those types of fungus as a just in case measure is your best bet
He probably got a lot more scared the older he got as the news about climate change got out and it became increasingly apparent the world wasn't going to do much for it. I wonder if he lived until 2003
@@raven4k998 Interesting contrast considering in Ep 2, Dr. Ratna, someone just as knowledgeable as he, became terrified when faced with the actual conclusion of his hypothesis.
@@Kyle-sr6jm With less trees to absorb the heat compared to the last time it happened. The earths' natural forestry has basically been decimated. Google "do trees absorb heat?" and have a look at the type of tree mentioned. The oak tree. The most important tree on planet earth, and it is largely the reason we even have a temperate atmosphere. It is literally known as "The tree of life". The next time the earth heats up we won't have enough oak trees to offset the temperature. And everyone knows what happens when heat stays in one place with no release or absorbtion....it becomes an oven.
@@Kyle-sr6jm Yeah, it has. About 120,000 years ago. And the average was about 0.1-0.2°C hotter than it is now. When we reach the 3°C point above pre-industrial level that we're heading towards in the next 40-50 years now, we'll have to go back several million years to find something similar. At 4°C, here's a perspective for ya: When the Earth was at 4°C below pre-industrial (about 15,000-20,000 years ago was the last time it was that cold), New York was under a kilometre-thick sheet of ice. Imagine the difference to today, then replace "cold" with "hot". That's how fucked we are if it hits +4°C.
@@Why-Fi048 Its at least not celcius, there are no animals surviving temperatures that high exept maybe some micro organisms. 94c would be slightly beneath boiling water after all.
At first, everyone is amused by the notion. The further he explains, the more colder you feel the room become as the audience becomes more and more unnerved by his every words about the horrifying nature of how dangerous fungi could be.
And, some of them realise that they’re already on the path to extinction. Global warming was not trendy at that time but was still getting some attention.
@@alexwalker3229 Eh, iirc cordyceps isn't smart enough or some other term to be able to control humans, so, no big deal. Unless, of course, there becomes a need for it to evolve to be able to control humans, but that'll never happen.
This scene made me know I was going to binge watch the show. The clear explanation of certain doom, the silent terror of the audience. Simply one of the most amazing scenes I've ever seen.
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Shame rest of the show was different. I would love to be it like Chernobyl, from perspectvie of a scientist, goverment and one family trying to survive the outbreak.
@@randomdude7345 well bc its based off of a game so it would be a bigger shame not to, if you want a movie like that I suggest watching "Contagion" (2011) its a great movie about the topic you're hoping to find. :) i really enjoyed it and its scarily accurate
This is a masterclass in how to create a terrifying opening in a known intellectual property. No jumpscares, no scary monsters, just a simple, honest evaluation of the real-world science that the concept is based on. If you're watching The Last Of Us, you're most likely familiar with the basic idea, "Fungus Zombies", but until now, you might have said "There's no way it could ever happen." This scene takes a handful of simple facts to simply state "It's less unlikely than you think", and lets the dread grow from there. Fungi produce numerous chemicals that can impact a living body and mind, fungus exist that parasitize and puppeteer living creatures in nature, fungus can't be stopped by many of the methods we'd use to stop the spread of other illnesses, and the human body's only defense against fungus is largely that our body temperature is only five degrees too high to prevent infection, those simple facts, on their own, aren't very scary. However, when brought together and add the simple concept of "If our environment gets hotter, then the fungus would have a reason to develop a resistance to heat", and you get a recipe for disaster. This becomes especially terrifying when you consider the following: In later episodes, it is revealed that the Cordyceps fungus was spread through wheat-based foods. Just about anything using flour as an ingredient gets cooked at 300-350 degrees F for an extended period. That means that the Cordyceps can survive even temperatures that would cook a human body. If the Cordyceps had just a ceiling of, say, 100 degrees F, then a strong fever could kill the fungus. However, since it can survive being cooked in a literal oven, then even that one potential natural defense is meaningless. The fungus has effectively future-proofed itself, and you likely can't even burn it away anymore.
Yeast spores nowadays can survive 140 degrees fahrenheit. Take a spore from a heat-resistant fungus, and it might just survive an oven. Then the spore germinates, infects its host, and horror happens :D
The biggest problem for fungus is time. All fungus require energy to grow, a human body also needs energy. The fungus could just use the energy the human uses instead of the actual human. Evolution is all about two things: survival and ease. If the fungus needed a new host with different properties than the old one it would be advantageous for it evolve in such a way it could infect them. But humans are not the most dominant species on the planet, ants are. Ants are a much more plentiful energy source than people, so why would the fungus evolve to use humans as energy? As for the ease of taking over an ant compared to a person, well, the differences are massive. Ants are like a Petri dish, nice, simple, easy to take over. Humans are like a desk, lots of competition by other species for few bits of energy. The Petri dish is just the better option. That’s not to say the desk is impossible for a fungus to colonize, but it would be significantly harder.
I love that little joke of "we'll be back" right after that scientist says "we lose". Yeah, he was saying "we'll return to the program after these commercials" but it also references humanity's survival against the virus for a good 20 years despite just how bad things have gotten in that time.
I have come back to watch this video so many times, John Hanna just kills it in this scene, I love the transition to comedic laughs to utter terror when he describes the possibility of this actually happening
This cold open to episode 1 is hands down the most scariest scene out of the entire 1st season, no jump scares, no infected (like clickers) it's the dialogue & how the audience reacts to the possibility of a fungal infection that could infect & control humans.
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@@BlueberrySwede You do realise this show is based on the game which already has two instalments and is rumoured to have a third at some point? If you didn’t know that then let me just tell you, the second game is just as good as the first if not better and would make an amazing show.
Probably the scariest scene of the whole show. I'm glad this was the opening because it hooked me in right away. This is how you make a video game adaptation. Just as amazing as the game.
@@Loquacious_Jackson The intro or the entire show? This intro was cool but from what I hear in other videos and on comments the show as a whole sucked.
@@167kinggam Not really. If the show's good then please tell me, does it stay faithful to the source material? Is the acting good, does the liberties they took from adapting a game to TV make for a better property?
@@UWG3 i was addressing your point about various videos and comments saying it sucks. Because a majority of the internet is full of praises. Im confused how you didn’t stumble upon them.
What I love about this scene the most is the fact that he isn’t even saying it’d be strictly from cordyceps, but any fungus given the right circumstances can become a threat
Which is ridiculous. Portobello mushrooms are not about to suddenly evolve to zombify us. He mentions aspergillus, the mold essential to Japanese cuisine consumed in huge quantities. Miso paste will not suddenly turn us into zombies. This is not how evolution works. Saying any fungi could potentially suddenly zombify us is like saying any plant, animal, insect, or bacterium could suddenly evolve to zombify us. The precedent given are a handful of exotic fungi that evolved over long periods of time with a fee species of small insects. Evolution is gradual. Besides, fungicides exist. There is fungal disease and antifungal medication. You can walk into any pharmacy and buy such medications to kill fungal infections like athlete's foot. The more common fictional modified rabies virus and supernarural explanations are more plausible than the overnight evolution of a fungus that can turn humans into zombies. An engineered bioweapon, alien technology, magic, and good old fashioned divine retribution are more plausible than the sudden emergence of human zombifying fungus. The pseudoscientific explanations that have been in vogue to be explain zombies over the last several decades are less believable than magic. These are walking corpses, often living indefinitely. There is no mechanism for them to function. Muscles cannot work without the human organs and behaviors that sustain them. Anyone zombified would be dead in a few days, since they don't have any self-preservation instincts. They'd die of dehydration. In a few hours, they'd be tired. In cold regions, they'd freeze outside. In hot regions, their bodies would degrade extremely quickly.
My son who was diagnosed with autism also has a severe candida infection (aspergillus niger to be exact). It is believed to have caused his condition, and is becoming more and more common worldwide, along with increases in cancer, and other serious diseases.
@@christophersheldon7088 Candida is becoming a threat because of its ability to thrive in clinical settings, but I have never heard of it being able to cause autism. I think you may have misunderstood something.
@Michael-jp8ir Gut dysbiosis and candida are extremely common in ASD children and adults. Candida is linked with many different mental disorders and diseases. I believe damage to the vagus is what caused my son's autism, and anti-fungal medication (combined with low carb/sugar/dairy diet) has changed his life for the better. Perhaps some research is needed on your end.
A Masterpiece scene. Excellent writing, directing, and acting. The scene is terrifying, but not by playing with audience's basic reflexes with jump-scare or tension. No, it honors our intelligence, directly speaking to our imagination. WE create the horror as he speaks. WE picture it in our minds, and oh God, WE know it CAN happen.
No, its impossible to happen. Its a science fiction, don't take it too seriously (but kudos on the directors to cherrypick the facts to make it 'reasonable' in TLOS universe, hence the immersiveness). TL;DR: The nature of human body is way, way, WAY complex than ant's to make it a reality. The reason why ants that are infected with cordyceps are 'zombified' is because the fungus infected the ant's muscle membranes instead of the mind, which is way, way, way harder to achieve in mammals. Insects like beetles got infected by cordyceps having the similar end but they didn't get 'zombified' because it takes too much energy to spread throughout the muscle membranes. All that with the combination of the complexity of our immune system with the likes of neutrophils and integrins to combat fungus infection is making it more irrelevant, unless your immune system is having a bad time in the wrong time. And we still didn't dive into the topic of antifungal medical treatment yet, which is a thing for literally millennials. A simple antifungal treatment can easily chase off the fungus out of our body. If people are really concern with fungus related topic, we should all focusing on Antimicrobial resistance (AMR) instead as fungus are growing resistance to antifungal medical treatment in recent years. The entire world still didn't bother to focus on such concerning subject yet as little development and research are being done on it (Sounds familiar? Thats right, its a similar vibe as COVID back in 2020 as human never gives a fuck until shit hits the fan). WHO's 2019 report has stated that there are literally 1.27 millions of casualties caused by AMR, and speculated that by the year of 2050 it will reach 350 million casualties, yearly deathly toll will be 10 millions. All-in-all, we should focus our effort in combating AMR instead by voicing our concerns to the global community. Fungus are a magnificent creature with tons of benefits when controlled and combat well, but when its out of control, don't expect it will end well. Stay strong, stay healthy.
@joker_j1268 his explanation of the world getting warmer and thus causing this danger has been corroborated by actual scientists so yes it could happen
@@joker_j1268 Excellent thoughts, except for your points in the first paragraph, I find no other fallacies in the monologue in the video, it all really makes perfect sense. As for the second paragraph, awesome man!! That parallel to COVID hit hard, but I wonder there may be much more cases like AMR that are on upward trend and risk an explosion like COVID, are we really tracking them all? Do we have the capacity to track them all? WIll THAT be a doom for us??
I like that they added this scene to the story. It doesn't barge into the narrative like "HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT, HERE'S THE EXPOSITION" like it could have if the interview was set in the modern day, but it still gives a good grounding for why what happens happens. Superbly acted as well.
That "but what if, for instance, the world were to get slightly warmer?" was perfectly done. Makes you realize that this isn't all that far-fetched. EDIT: "Not all that far-fetched" still means "far fetched", people.
There are hot regions of the world that dont cool down that well if at all, yet we have not seen any 'evolution of fungi that could or would change and infect humans the way it would ants, humans arent ants, we are more complicated than an ant. The Only way fungi like Cordycepts could actually do what is in this show or what the fella explained in the beginning is if it had outside 'help' (like Gain of Function)
Not only the main actors, but even the audience crowd also, went from jovial to completely silent and feeling devastated! That’s how you write a script, not spend 10+ seasons explaining the pandemic…
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@@notblabby People doomsay all the time. Nobody ever pays them much heed. Imagine some random doctor you've never heard of telling people in 2019 on Colbert's show that if we don't lock down China we'll have a pandemic within a year. Okay, now imagine it's 1968, when everyone's worried about nuclear war with the Soviets and racism, and tell them instead of a pandemic from China it's global warming that is going to cause mushrooms to evolve and kill us all. Now imagine that not only are you hearing this from some random guy on Johnny Carson's show (who would not have realistically hosted an event like this at all anyway) but there's also another well-respected scientist there who's saying this guy predicting the apocalypse is overreacting and exaggerating at best, if not flat-out wrong. You're telling me that you're gonna go from giggling about doing acid to gulping with dread in the span of 3 minutes from that? Are you that gullible? When you watched this scene did you immediately google whether what he was saying in the script is actually realistic and think we might be doomed in real life too? Why not? If the audience's reaction is believable I mean. Edit: I don't mean this to come across aggressively or insultingly. I'm just saying when we see scenes like this in shows we feel the emotions the host is displaying. But that's because we know. We know what happens, we know what the show is trying to portray, we know what it wants us to feel, and we don't mind feeling it because that's what we're watching the show for. In real life we react differently to these things. You can find over a hundred ways the world is going to end within half a century with a 5 minute google search. Some of which might be written by credentialed and respected individuals like this character is meant to be. Normal people won't react like the host and like the host's audience reacts because they've either heard of these things or don't believe it. Especially if it's something that seems implausible on its face like evolving mushrooms, instead of say, nuclear war which very much would have been at the forefront of people's minds in this year and even yet would not have elicited such a powerful response as shown.
The hosts face at 2:22 as he puts all the peices together before the scientist can say them, and it begins to dawn on him that maybe, maaaybe what the scientist is saying is more than just some thought experiment about Fungus, and actually has a realistic basis is an incredible moment. That shift from casual, humerous, comfy talkshow, to the dread of realising that however minor there is still some chance this could happen, is an amazing moment.
the writers for this scene and the people responsible are amazing at their job. by far the coolest explanation for a zombie apocalypse that I have ever seen
It's a lot scarier, actually. The fungus doesn't take control of the brain, but instead the body, basically cutting off the brain and leaving the host with no control of their own body.
Yeah but still nonsense. The guy r retends anti funguls dont exist (they do). That fungus have complete control of ants (they dont). And that the nervous system of a human is similiar to an ant (many fold times more complicated). I get its just a show, but people might by some of these arguments without thinking.
Very similar to someone being fully paralyzed, except instead of being motionless your body is being moved against your will, you feel all the pain and exhaustion as usual but you can do nothing. Prisoner in your own mind. For me, the most terrifying iteration of the zombie in pop culture by far
The game of this show actually established that very fact in the background. There's certain times in the game when you can sneak around and encounter the infected and if you manage not to alert them, you can hear the human inside crying as it eats another person. They are very much just along for the ride.
Why I love this opening: 1: The scientist throws a confusing curve ball with saying fungus is a bigger threat than a virus. 2: He explaining the stages of infection from the game as those who have played it (like me) remember. 3: The phrase “What of the earth were to get slightly warmer and the fungi has reason to evolve” REALLY hits now. 4: Explaining how we will lose if a fungal infection in humans like that ever happens. Edit: Why is there so much angry misery in the replies? I’ll never know.
Fungi evolved during Cambrian, 20 degrees warmer than present "Climate". ...... Mammals evolved 208 million years ago Primates 55 million years ago Humans 200,000 years ago they've had that long to infect us
@@mr.xernorus4026 the weather fluctuates, but the microorganisms that were present then were different. Now thay had time to change, and have another roll of dice to mutate.
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Watching this in the Pandemic back in the day started with mild chuckles but stuck with me for days. This is probably the scariest scene on TV in the last few years. The implications of our own world and the comparison to real life fungi just ... It's a nightmare. Beyond horrifying. No cure, no preventatives.
@@aidanwilliams9452 Exactly. Fungi aren't simple viruses or bacterias, they are complex living beings far closer to animals than to plants. Just like we quickly evolved to resist the poisons in so many of the things we eat (seriously, so many things humans eat are actually poisonous to other animals) fungi can do the same. Nothing that actually works against fungi will work for very long. Hell, that's what happened in the video games and the show, the fungi evolved hard plates around their host brains to be more resistant against blunt trauma and bullets.
The only zombie theory that actually puts fear to my heart. Also, even if it dosn't evolve to kill us. It could evolve to spread faster among our food supply, plantations, meat etc, which would be a dramatic hit to our survival as well.
I thought that the 28 days franchise has an extremely terrifying take on the zombie theory. Super-rabies that spreads from bites and blood? Unrealistic given the time the infection kicks in, but…let’s just say it revolutionized the zombie genre for a reason.
@@BenjaminSteber Interestingly enough, from an epidemiological standpoint, the Rage Virus is easily contained. Its rapid onset and virulence ensures that it cannot spread past geographical boundaries and, thus, cannot infect the entire world.
They all seem to bounce off each other in one way or another. Halo did this with the Flood through some of the original lore. It's a fungus that evolved into a hive mind. Then they ruined it with some story about a shape-shifting ancient hyper intelligent race. Even 20+ years later, I still hate that level when they first show up.
So that ergot that he talked about used to be in untreated grain, so lots of bread made in the middle ages would literally make go mad and even die - their limbs rotting and falling off - sometimes called St Anthoy's Fire . All because of some mouldy grains - particularly in Rye and in countries that were a bit colder and wetter.
@@aquamote True. However, the affliction was caused by Ergotamine Toxicity. Ergotamine is a toxin produced by the fungus, Ergot. The fungus itself dies while being cooked.
With the single line "what if the world were to get slighlty warmer" they made everyone watching shiver. I can only hope with enough work and practice to ever getting to this quality of writing
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It's nice to see a fictitious audience intently listening and considering the validity of what he's saying, instead of every movie and show ever with audiences that like to shake their heads and chuckle because "that's ridiculous"
The Scene itself is pretty simple, but it does an amazing job at foreshadowing the outbreak, how far ahead the Doctor saw of the fungi outbreak and the death and chaos it. Even the other doctor, the TV show host, and the crowd horror in silence. I actually would love to see more of him in some way.
You can see the other doctor nod at "we lose". even if he thinks the chances of fungi evolving that way is slim to none, he admits if it happened, we'd be dead.
Loved this scene. Of course, if this were reality, the terrifying "zombie ant" fungus was only able to develop the mind-control behavior after millennia of co-evolving with ants in the same geographic location, an evolution that sophisticated would be very unlikely to occur in any fungi that affects humans, and even if it did, we'd probably see it coming in plenty of time to develop countermeasures, or at least prevent any kind of catastrophic spread like what happens in the show. But, as a sci-fi, zombie apocalypse premise, this is about the best one out there.
I'm a biologist, specifically a postdoctoral researcher of neurogenetics. Given the number of spores a fungal fruiting body releases when it sporulates...I am not sure that this is unlikely. It actually seems like a real possibility. Let's hope not.
@@LukeDOMGBBQ A number of insects are susceptible to to these fungi, but that hasn't prevented these insects from achieving a healthy population. For that matter, our bodies constantly encounter hostile fungal spores in stupendous numbers every day. Cordyceps may have a novel method for spreading it's spores further if it sufficiently infects a host, but it still has to defeat the hosts immune system.
@@Sethgolas To counter your points, human society is integrated in ways that even ant colonies don't replicate. Ant colonies are isolationist and two ants from different colonies meeting typically results in all-out war. This means that ants roam inside their own territory with little "exploration" of the vast world outside of it except for food. A single fungal epidemic can wipe out an ant colony, but transferring to the *next* colony is where the difficulty lies. Human travel and societal integration means that the spread is already almost guaranteed. As for the immune system, humans are already being slowly stripped of their immune system in the developed world. Everything being "clean" and the sheer lack of exposure to nature that city dwellers have means that they are even more susceptible to transmission as we sit.
I think its the best reason "why" zombies exist. Too many times, zombie infection takes on a bit of a supernatural component. Last of Us has a somewhat plausible reason for zombies.
I haven’t watched the show or played the games, but this scene plays out so memorably and is so well crafted, makes me want to dive into this world in all its mediums.
Do it. You dont have to buy a videogame console, just watch one of the many playthroughs here on RUclips. You wont regret it. IMHO, watch the games before the show if you do.
The black fungus recently killed 4500 people in India. It mutated to tolerate higher host body temperature and came out of nowhere. It is only a matter of time until we get a fungal pandemic, and it will most likely not turn us into zombies, but will have a mortality rate around 30-60%.
it didnt kill as much as it maimed people, eyes and other afected parts had to be removed of some peoples. horrifying scenes. hospitals was where it spread
@@gigachad3457 not really, black fungus has always existed and our immunity systems have kept us from the black fungus since time immemorial. Mucormycosis is a very rare infection. It is caused by exposure to mucor mould which is commonly found in soil, plants, manure, and decaying fruits and vegetables. it also stays in the nostrils of people but donot affect them, if ur already weakened by an existing condition only then it gets dangerous. it doesnt need to mutate to harm you it already can it depends on how good ur imunity is. the second wave of covid ravaged the healthcare in India and this was a result of that
I was hooked on this show in the first 3 minutes. I've never had that happen before. Normally, it takes half an episode or so. But this chilling opening is so effective.
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I really appreciate when the writing for a character scientist actually speaks with real facts and principles from the real world, instead of speaking make-believe complicated jargon that SOUNDS real enough to the general audience (*cough cough* “flux capacitor” mumbo jumbo). And honestly, that’s what makes this scene all the more terrifying. The LoU video game was already terrifying using a real world fungus as the catalyst for hypothetical human apocalypse. But watching this scene, hearing the scientist actually talk about the hypothesis, that’s what made this world tread the line of plausibility and makes it truly terrifying. (One thing that’s not quite right, there are INDEED fungi that can live within the human body, despite our body temperature. Meningitis is a fungus that attacks your spinal cord and brain. Candida auris attacks your heart, blood vessels, central nervous system, bones, and eyes. The real world is truly terrifying, but I hope none of us live to see a reality where a human cordyceps emerges. Rabies, although a viral infection, is already closer to a zombie than I would like anything to exist).
i love how the scene goes from lighthearted to unsettling in a matter of minutes. the cold opens played an intrinsic role in setting the direness of the world of TloU.
Fun fact: Humans core temp is dropping every decade or couple of decades or so now it’s 36.5 used to be 38 in earlier human so you never know we might let the fungus grow at 34 lol
Well I'm certain the reason for that would be the globe warming up after the ice ages receded, no longer needing a higher body temperature to withstand the frigid temperatures
@@gabrieltorres3932 nah, considering the fact we only started measuring that in the last 2 centuries it's most likely due to a reduced amount of infections causing fevers. If less people are sick, less people have fevers and less people are hot (haha). That's the issue with averages, they seldom tell the full story.
@@aytekineric8306 But there was a mini ice age which ended in the 19th century, that could've been a factor too. Its also the reason we're seeing "Record temperatures", because we started recording around the time it ended, before the planet started warming up.
I don't know if it's intentional or by accident, but the close up of the scientist explaining at the end reminds me of the famous clip from Robert Oppenheimer when he said " Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
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That's the same actor who's gonna play Oppenheimer is it not? I stand corrected peaky blinders guy got it, I've gotta say though this actor, peaky blinders, and Oppenheimer himself all have a similar look about them.
Hannah send chills down the spine. His sharp delivery on the "what if" line was cold as F**k. It immediately got our attention and we felt like part of the audience on the chat show. All because the delivery of his lines were utter perfection. Also know its a completely far fetch scenario. But i love how they used some scientific facts and mixed it with science fiction. It gave it believability even though its just a complete misdirection of a fact with a lot of fiction into it.
@@Atreus21 For one, we do have means of combating fungal spores from disseminating in the air. Air filters would be the first line of defense on a macro scale. I'm not certain that likening human behavior to that of ants is entirely accurate. Sure, humanity is also a social species, but ants are on a whole different level of population density. And most importantly, unlike ants, we have scientific methods to assess human brains for abnormalities.
@@jonahmiller5881 yeah, that was the only thing that was false in his speech. Most of the other stuff could happen, but we do have ways to fight fungal infections.
@@AnthonyJMurph The problem is that any infection of the brain is exponentially harder to treat. We have a structure in our bodies called the blood-brain barrier. This is a membrane around our central nervous system that is extremely selective about what it lets through, far more selective than most of the other membranes in our bodies (lungs, stomach, intestines, etc.) and this is a good thing. It prevents most viruses and bacteria from crossing into the central nervous system, which without modern medicine was almost always fatal. But some microorganisms are a lot more effective at crossing the blood-brain barrier (Meningococcus bacteria for example), and that means that the antibiotics or antivirals have to be able to follow them into the central nervous system. This can be a serious pharmacological challenge though since the blood-brain barrier is really selective about what it allows across. So yeah, we have a ton of antifungals that can treat a fungal infection in the lungs or the bloodstream, but not as many that are able to cross the blood-brain barrier. If a fungus evolves that is either immune or resistant to the CNS antifungals that we have discovered, then that represents a serious problem if that fungus is also highly infectious. Not likely, since a lot of things have to happen in tandem, but over a long enough timespan anything can evolve.
Craig Mazin, this show creator also stands behind other highly anticipated HBO project "Chernobyl". This man sure knows how to TELL the horror story and does it well. It's quite a unique feature nowadays.
I appreciate that they fought the urge to have the doctor's response at the end be: "Game Over". Lesser video game adaptations wouldn't have been able to resist.
the moment he said "The world were to get slightly warmer?" my expression matched the tv host. Cause it does feel like the world has been dealing with that, this has been the hottest summer in decades after all, we've been dealing with higher temperatures. Its like, damn, talk about putting some actual fear into your writing with a simple explanation like that, that gives you the feeling that this could happen in real life too.
Temp has very little to do with it. Its directly related to the increase in carbon in the atmosphere. My son who was diagnosed with autism also has a severe candida infection (aspergillus niger to be exact). It is believed to have caused his condition, and is becoming more and more common worldwide, along with increases in cancer, and other serious diseases.
Something that I don’t think gets enough credit is the subtle offbeat shrill chord that follows the deafening silence into a blackout… it drives home the feeling of impending doom… it almost serves as a weary groan, as the inevitable is soon to come.
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I remember listening to a science podcast a few years ago about how we evolved and earned our right to survive this world and a big part of that is our internal temperature kills off fungus. But studies are showing that humans internal temperature are lowering very slowly, kinda scary
Were either going to nuke our planet out of existence or get to a technological level so high that eradicating a genome off of the earth with some gene virus would be possible
My favorite thing by far is the unnerving shots of the audience, earlier in the clip they move around and function like indivual people, but by the end they are all mindlessly watching without moving
the beauty of this scene besides there is no background music or cinematography technique used in horror movies, is that as he furthers the discussion the audience (the ones in the show and us who are watching) starts to understand that his explanations make sense and in the end when he made his point, we are all left speechless with fear
These unsettling foreshadowing scenes are always scarier than the actual horror scenes. I've heard it said that the first kill in any horror movie/series sets the tone, but for me, it's little things like this
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Personally it feels a little anachronistic for me. At first all I could hear was the vague 21st century language from random doomsday movie dialogue. But the camera work and acting is very good so it doesn't throw me off too much.
I love this scene. My favourite part though is where John Hannah’s character is describing the infections purpose and the shot at 2:45 where it shows the four audience members, each one leaning more forward in their seat, giving them a zombie-look….it’s just eerie. Beautiful cinematography and kind of a foreshadowing. Just brilliant. 👌
The part he mentions the hive mentality, all the fungi working together in their hosts to achieve the same goal, and then you see the audience looking like they're hypnotized.
The hook that changed it all: "what if, for instance, the world were to get slightly warmer?" That was the line that moved something terrible but extremely unlikely into something tangible, almost certain.
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One of the last courses I took for my bachelors was Medical Mycology, and it was probably my favorite class in the degree. I remember thinking mycoses were scary then. They're harder to diagnose than other pathogens because there really aren't many tests for them. You just have to culture them, which can take a couple of weeks, allowing them to do quite a bit of damage in the meantime. This was like 15 years ago so hopefully more rapid tests have become available since then. Treating them could be tricky too. The more powerful antifungals could have dangerous side effects, like kidney or liver damage (I forget which). And even 15 years ago, they were starting to develop resistance to the common antifungals at the time. Fungal infections weren't as common, so I don't think they were too worried about the fungal equivalent of Superbugs yet but, like they mention here, climate change could increase the range and infection rate of mycoses, which increases the likelihood of developing highly antifungal-resistant strains of mycoses. It's possible but less likely that cordyceps could evolve to infect humans. It's pretty specialized for insects and we're too different from insects for that kind of transition to happen quickly. But the fungal infections that already infect humans are bad enough.
2:41 That scene had the same impact on me as "When there is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the Earth" scene from 2004's Dawn of the Dead. Specially the closeup on his face.
no more room in hell? how can an imaginary place run out of room? just imagine some more caverns, some more lakes of fire etc. bingo bango, more room from nothing, like the miracle of creationism!
@Some1inFNQ Some times I wonder why atheists act like fanatical zealots if they have no faith Then I see comments like yours that sound more deranged than conspiracy theorists.
A friend gave me this link. I was a co-author on the original paper that coined the term 'zombie-ant'. At the time I tried to argue that the link should be made to Robert Heinlein's The Puppet Masters.
This kind of reminds me of Bill Gates‘ keynote on the next pandemic, back from 2015. He gave a TED talk about our lack of preparation for a global disease outbreak, showing simulations of it‘s spread throughout the world. Damn, it was so crazy to see if really happen so quickly afterwards.
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Why would we? This isn't even your content.
If you want butterflies, don't focus your time on chasing them, instead, focus your time on building your garden.
@scorcher117 Exactly, this guy's pissing me off 😂
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no i dont think so
They should do more pre-extinction scenes like this in season 2. It's a wonderful way to break up the pacing and establish more of the world.
I'd kill just to see some more prelude into the apocalypse for it happens. Like actually getting police reports from Indonesia where the first infected was sighted instead of just analyzing its corpse. It was still pretty cool nonetheless.
But zombies....
Seriouy I believe that is the direction they are taking. Its more of a drama then a zombi outbreak. Kind of like later seasons of the Walking Dead but with a higher budget. Obviously the relationship between the two main characters will be the shows primary focus with zombies going "Rawr arggg" in the background.
@@franksegui4478🤓☝️Ermm.. actually the term for those "zombies" are infected
Oh great, if this stays more a character drama than about the zombies, that means 100% of zombie films and TV shows relegate the zombies to some background threat, rather than the cause of the apocalypse.
@@franksegui4478have you played the games… because zombies were ALWAYS the background… tlou2 is probably going to upset you if you’re in it for the infected
The shots of the audience when he's describing "billions of puppets with poisoned minds fixated on a single goal" are absolutely chilling.
& like a fungus, they were all in perfect sync of silence
seems like islam and u forgot the last part of it by any means necessary
@@nishantmaderna6295its could be any religion or belief, not just islam. anything has the power.
Incredible shot choices
@@philcollinslover56705I agree with you.
The acting of the tv host at 2:22 is so great. The subtle change from "This guy's just talking nonsense, but I'll humor him" to "genuine interest and growing horror at the direction this could go"
And to think he’s the same guy who played Bighead on Silicon Valley, or the Google Josh in the movie The Internship…
Right? When he furrowed his brow at "slightly warmer", it made me think he was recalling an article he may have read recently about the "global warming" threat. Excellent acting.
The timestamp you've given is him just looking forwards. Much better examples in this scene.
its big head 😅
Bighead
John Hannah is an absolutely masterful actor.
Criminally underrated.
I really like his voice!
He's also great on Marvels Agents Of SHIELD as Dr Radcliffe.
Good Batiatus
@@GatsuKS i love Spartacus and John Hannah
@@gochiefs206 One of the best shows ever made and Hannah was ridiculously good in it.
From The Mummy to Last of Us
He's a keeper
"Fungus" - Audiences laugh.
"We lose" - Audiences silence.
That's horrifying.
that rhymes
@Hanstein. what rhymes nothing rhymes from my perspective and I read it over and over and over and over again to get what you mean to get what you meant.
@@ichigotheg.o.a.t "fungus" rhymes with "we lose".
at this point I don't even know whether to tell you "learn to read", or "learn to type".
@@Hanstein. no the fuck it does NOT. lmfao.
"Ah, Shit."
“We lose” followed by that dire silence
*Another top “oh shit” moment*
The way he said it sounded like someone who’s really thought about this, and has since made peace with the fact there is nothing that can be done if it happens.
@@alexman378 Indeed, he’s come to terms with the fact, as hard to accept as it was.
There's at least one thing that can be done tough: isolation. It's not like TWD where everyone in the planet is already infected regardless of what they do.
You need to be in the vicinity of the fungus to get it, and don't let modern globalization fool you: planet Earth is f*cking HUGE. There are lots of places where people could seclude themselves and live relatively normal lifes. Hell, some places may not even notice the world falling apart at all.
When he said "we lose", I take it as the loss of civilization, land and lives. The world wouldn't be the same again. But humanity would prevail.
@@moteroargentino7944 Isolation didn't work very well for us last time. The more advanced humanity becomes, the less people are out of reach. Siberia and the stretches of northern Canada and the Anatarctic could even be at risk not too far from now. In many ways, they already are. In a would-be scenario, the smarter people would run to the north or the south. Forced to flare out. Nobody is ever perfectly safe.
Idk why but that makes my blood run cold
The gradual shift from amusement to horror on the TV host's face is just so damn perfect, that scene in particular sends chills up my spine.
LOL
When I watched this for the 1st time this scene did indeed send MAJOR chills up my spine.
As an old actor, I say this scene is brilliantly crafted. Superb performance that slowly, with out hyperbolic bs, builds to show the danger.
Almost Lovecraftian...
What if the world was to get slightly warmer..? 😳
You didn’t get “chills” quit exaggerating
The “slightly warmer” line. 💀
we might be doomed
@@blackberry8615 Don't worry the human's immune system will take care of it
@@blackberry8615 Real bro gotta be prepared lmao
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@@blackberry8615 we are, but not because of the Cordyceps. It would take hundreds of years for the fungus to adapt to the heat and I don’t see humanity being around in a few hundred more years. So we don’t need to worry.
scariest scene i've ever seen by just talking, the silence of the crowd is horrifying...great job from the actors, writers and director.
Yes, the way the entire crowd goes silent and motionless all at once, frozen in the horror of what they're hearing is itself a mirror to the fungi controlling all of humanity.
This series opening is as unforgettable as the opening to HBO's The Newsroom. m.ruclips.net/video/bIpKfw17-yY/видео.html
Kind of reminded me of the, "the people it kills, get up and kill" scene from 'Dawn of the Dead'.
the host face reaction from when the scientist started talking about climate change until the end was soo good, so you can see the uneasiness and fear creeps into him
And the scariest part is: it's a real possibility
seriously...this is not scary. and the crowd reaction comes off way to forced and predictable, like the whole scene was actually playing out predictably.
I like that the doctor doesn't just talk about cordyceps but also talks about fungus in general about how it adapts and survives.
Fungi are kind of an odd one out of all the living things. Prior to 1960, it was generally thought they're just plants, but it took some digging deeper to realize they don't actually fit to plant category and aren't like corals (which are classified as animals).
Candida are doing this…
@@OniLeafNinNot exactly. Becoming more pathogenic, yes, but candida cannot and will never be able to turn you into a zombie. Cordyceps however, were it to suddenly jump to mammals, potentially could do something analogous. Not sure if it'd present like in this series, but it would not be good. I'm thinking more along the lines of rabies, you wouldn't be functional enough past a certain point for any deliberate action like chasing someone down. That is, unless some jackass scientists in a sketchy government lab were able to decode _exactly_ how Cordyceps does what it does, correlate that with specific genes, and then deliberately do something really... Stupid
He kinda forgot to talk about how temperature isn't the only thing preventing cordyceps from infecting humans like it infects insects. It took millions of years of co-evolution for cordyceps to infect insects, and it only works because they don't have antibodies in their immune systems. Humans are much more complex organisms, and the human immune system would absolutely dunk on any attempt at anything resembling a cordyceps infection. In fact, cordyceps has been used for centuries in traditional Chinese medicine for its wide array of health benefits, which have also been documented in scientific studies, so consuming cordyceps is actually good for you.
@@OniLeafNin I grow Candida for a living and I always alcohol my hands even when I've been wearing gloves.
This is by far, one the greatest intros to a show ever. You have a professor, specialist explaining in simple terms, the seriousness of a pandemic of this kind, followed by the ignorance and sarcasm from the host and audience. By the end of it though, the look on the hosts face, is priceless
I like this type of idk what it is called. I call them Science Horror. Explaining about some type of pandemic that can't be stopped even using fire (I heard that the cordyceps can survive high heat). According to my experience (and you too who's reading this), we all know this will spread very fast even If we tried to warn, prevent and stop this pandemic/endemic. Why? Look what happened during the COVID-19 pandemic. No one can stop ignorance except ourselves. I think you know what I mean. History can be stopped from repeating if we all learn from it. But, we'll never learn......
By far, one of the.... OK. Do you understand where you went wrong? 😆
They're pretty lucky to not even be alive to see it even happen. This was in 1968
@@ADcommenter But that's only 35 years later. John Hannah is 61 now. If we assume his character is around his age, that would put him at 96 by the time the pandemic hits. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he could have still been alive.
@@Saimeren the average man lives until the age of 75. So him already being 6 feet under is definitely a possibility. And i guess he should be thankful about it.
This is one of the best introductions for a show, I have ever seen I felt shivers
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I love how John Hannah went from being actor who mostly did comedy to more serious roles, being "that exposition guy", somewhere after he got the part in Spartacus. Dude can deliver exposition for five minutes and not make it dull.
Ohh shit i forgot he was in Spartacus sand and blood fuck that show was bomb as hell
R.I.P Andy Whitfield dude was amazing so sad to see him leave is at such a young age
He takes the attention of the audience well
I did not realize until right now that that's Johnathan from The Mummy movies.
I can never forget his role in Spartacus. He made Batiatus the best character in the show.
he was also in agents of shield
no jumpscares, no ghosts, but the scariest scene i’ve watched.
It plays on common facts in reality and even thou it omits another crucial fact ( human immunity system ) it starts the show with a bang
Helps that humanity, globally, is coming off a real pandemic. Of the virus variety thankfully, I guess?
@Tarrin Pun That is a correct assumption, not to mention fungi produce penicilium which is form of antibiotics. So therefore it all clicks together that fungus can produce some sort of immunity suppresant
It's complete simplicity makes it terrifying
I think it's the fact that this is based on real science, making it seem likr it could happen any day in real life
Need to give props to John Hannah here, a great actor can pop up for 5 mins and be so well remembered and his delivery absolutely chillingly perfect
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@@MarsFromEarth1Stop being cringe
Hate to break it to you but John Hannah's been around for a little more than 5 minutes
@@hudsoncraftworksHe's obviously talking about the show.
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From this scene I realize that the best horror is anxiety. Semi-truth. It tricks audiences into thinking that it might happen IRL. It might happen IRL makes it scary
Well yes but for example if you remember that antifungal creams exist (any sports shop or pharmacy will have a dozen) this scene is just funny
@@freddekl1102 an antifungal cream, which treats fungal growth of the outer epidermal layer, to a fungi-based neurological infection would be like trying to treat strep throat with hand soap. The show isn't far off, we don't have any "antibiotic" like drugs to rid our bodies of a fungal infection. That's probably more to do with the fact that we don't really need them though. We could probably develop something if we had to.
If i remember correctly, the mushrooms can't infect humans or bigger animals, because the nerves are too complex for them to take over
@@Manontheinternet600for the most part yes.
The director Craig Mazin is a genius, he made 1 of the most captivating and horrifying series with Chernobyl and does it again in this opening.
"It's not 3 roentgen, it's 15,000" and then Jared Harris' dejected yet horrified downward look.
Guess he's smart and realized how awesome that scene was in Chernobyl. Can't blame him for trying it again.
You mean that Chernobyl which basically lied half of the story just to slander USSR? He spit at the truth and those who died for propaganda.
@@dutchmilk You are expecting Americans to be educated and cognizant of world history. This is your first mistake.
@@darkkonoha5865 oh yea, that is my mistake indeed. But then again, can't resist poking a finger into their eyes. They often earned it.
I'm a huge fan of John Hannah. His character here is debonair, articulate, good-humored, unruffled despite the insults and chillingly correct. I wish we could see more of him.
Seeing John Hannah deliver these lines totally in character is chilling... totally versatile character. Slightly smug yet delivering doomsday prophecy with seriousness and straight facts without hesitation.. and yet you remember him blurting Aegyptian spells and goofing around in mummy.. you rewlise how excellent actor he is. Stole the show for himself and only came in for 3 minutes.
@@Puti880415 he was also fantastic in Agents of SHIELD
yea such a great voice, still remember his speach from 4 weddings and a funeral
There’s something encapsulating when a Scotsman is being serious
Big head keeps getting promoted.
In less than five minutes they did what The Walking Dead couldn't do at their show in 11 seasons
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@@erenkaskarli9436 Explain what caused the apocalypse.
@@0b3ryn29 I'm also asking that. That's why I said 'what do you mean?'.
@@erenkaskarli9436 i was answering you. you asked what OP meant. i answered that the show (Last of Us) explained the cause of the apocalypse in a few minutes vs. Walking Dead taking 11 seasons
O yes.
The explanation of the fungus cordyceps here is so perfect and it was very easy to understand without replaying the scene. This is actually my favourite part of the series.
For those who don't know, the man sitting on the left is John Hanna. He starred alongside Brenden Fraser in the Mummy trilogy. I was happy to see him make an appearance in TloU
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Let's not forget Spartucus. His portrayal of Quintus Batiatus is glorious.
The actual fear in the tone. Perfect.
@@errolpletcher9186 never saw it, shame the main actor passed away 😢
I just remembered him as the evil Steve Jobs from Don't Look Up, but now that you mention it, he was Jonathan from mummy as well!
Part of what’s freaky is that, given the time jump from this point to the start of the outbreak was about 35 years, much of the audience was probably still alive to experience what was being discussed.
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They also would have been much older and more likely to be infected.
Probably explains why no one likes the fireflies because they all understand that a vaccine is impossible, as is said here. TV show ruined it's own ending by ripping off I am Legend.
I do wonder if the doctors/host were still around. Maybe they’d be old but damn I’d watch their specials fr
And too old to do shit except die
The perfect contrast between a doctor who have studied these type of things his whole life, and doesn't feel the anxiety and the panic anymore, he just accepts the facts, and someone who just heard the possibilities for the first time and now is feeling pure terror. Brilliant.
Because at that point, it is an impossibility. It'd be like an astronomy professor feeling anxiety and panic over the powers of the universe. Like, one of the things that could happen is that a cosmic laser hits Earth, and wipes us out. No warning. No chance to take cover, no chance of survival. Extinction in the blink of an eye for those lucky, while a massive heat up and the Earth blowing up for those who managed to survive the initial hit. The odds of us being hit by a laser are astronomically low. But it's never zero. Here, the doctor knows what fungus can do, but only if the odds hit it to reach that state. There was no fungi at that point in time that was able to do what he said would happen, until the astronomical odds hit that number, and cordyceps did. He was calm, because, while he was talking about it, it was essentially not going to happen. Not in the world he was living in at that time.
and this goes to show the horrors of global warming if global warming raises the temps just enough for force said evolution and fungus will own us all
well he does have a point fungus can take us over if they adapt to our body heat that is literally all it would take so saying it's not possible is the biggest mistake you can make accepting it can happen and being prepared like having anti fungal's ready for those types of fungus as a just in case measure is your best bet
He probably got a lot more scared the older he got as the news about climate change got out and it became increasingly apparent the world wasn't going to do much for it. I wonder if he lived until 2003
@@raven4k998 Interesting contrast considering in Ep 2, Dr. Ratna, someone just as knowledgeable as he, became terrified when faced with the actual conclusion of his hypothesis.
I have watched this scene countless time, I just can’t get over the perfection of it. Goes from light-hearted talk show to dead silent terror.
One of the strongest opening to any show I've ever scene.
Seen
@@ZacharyGreenberg18 Your right.
@@TyTimeIsAwesome You're
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the most horrifying "slightly warmer" for any heat loving human.
The world has been warmer than now, and will be again.
@@Kyle-sr6jm With less trees to absorb the heat compared to the last time it happened. The earths' natural forestry has basically been decimated. Google "do trees absorb heat?" and have a look at the type of tree mentioned. The oak tree. The most important tree on planet earth, and it is largely the reason we even have a temperate atmosphere. It is literally known as "The tree of life". The next time the earth heats up we won't have enough oak trees to offset the temperature. And everyone knows what happens when heat stays in one place with no release or absorbtion....it becomes an oven.
@@Kyle-sr6jm Yeah, it has. About 120,000 years ago. And the average was about 0.1-0.2°C hotter than it is now.
When we reach the 3°C point above pre-industrial level that we're heading towards in the next 40-50 years now, we'll have to go back several million years to find something similar.
At 4°C, here's a perspective for ya:
When the Earth was at 4°C below pre-industrial (about 15,000-20,000 years ago was the last time it was that cold), New York was under a kilometre-thick sheet of ice.
Imagine the difference to today, then replace "cold" with "hot". That's how fucked we are if it hits +4°C.
@@heavycritic9554 shouldn't it technically be fahrenheit because 94C is a pretty high temperature to be able to survive at anyways
@@Why-Fi048 Its at least not celcius, there are no animals surviving temperatures that high exept maybe some micro organisms. 94c would be slightly beneath boiling water after all.
At first, everyone is amused by the notion. The further he explains, the more colder you feel the room become as the audience becomes more and more unnerved by his every words about the horrifying nature of how dangerous fungi could be.
Ok... Cringe.
Were you born yesterday or what?
And the sound of dripping yellow/green water and the filling of brown in trousers,bring some spares
"more colder"..
@@Saimeren his username indicates english probably isn't his first language.
And, some of them realise that they’re already on the path to extinction. Global warming was not trendy at that time but was still getting some attention.
Fun fact: irl fungus has actually begun to mutate to survive the rising higher temps of earth.
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will never invade humans though
@@WonkelDee careful, don't jinx our species
@@alexwalker3229 Eh, iirc cordyceps isn't smart enough or some other term to be able to control humans, so, no big deal.
Unless, of course, there becomes a need for it to evolve to be able to control humans, but that'll never happen.
@WonkelDee lots of funguses can already survive in humans. A variant of the fungus from the show is actually one of those.
This scene made me know I was going to binge watch the show. The clear explanation of certain doom, the silent terror of the audience. Simply one of the most amazing scenes I've ever seen.
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Shame rest of the show was different. I would love to be it like Chernobyl, from perspectvie of a scientist, goverment and one family trying to survive the outbreak.
binge watching is for beta humans
@@randomdude7345 well bc its based off of a game so it would be a bigger shame not to, if you want a movie like that I suggest watching "Contagion" (2011) its a great movie about the topic you're hoping to find. :) i really enjoyed it and its scarily accurate
@@randomdude7345 world war z is more your taste then, it’s a movie though
This is a masterclass in how to create a terrifying opening in a known intellectual property. No jumpscares, no scary monsters, just a simple, honest evaluation of the real-world science that the concept is based on. If you're watching The Last Of Us, you're most likely familiar with the basic idea, "Fungus Zombies", but until now, you might have said "There's no way it could ever happen." This scene takes a handful of simple facts to simply state "It's less unlikely than you think", and lets the dread grow from there.
Fungi produce numerous chemicals that can impact a living body and mind, fungus exist that parasitize and puppeteer living creatures in nature, fungus can't be stopped by many of the methods we'd use to stop the spread of other illnesses, and the human body's only defense against fungus is largely that our body temperature is only five degrees too high to prevent infection, those simple facts, on their own, aren't very scary. However, when brought together and add the simple concept of "If our environment gets hotter, then the fungus would have a reason to develop a resistance to heat", and you get a recipe for disaster.
This becomes especially terrifying when you consider the following: In later episodes, it is revealed that the Cordyceps fungus was spread through wheat-based foods. Just about anything using flour as an ingredient gets cooked at 300-350 degrees F for an extended period. That means that the Cordyceps can survive even temperatures that would cook a human body. If the Cordyceps had just a ceiling of, say, 100 degrees F, then a strong fever could kill the fungus. However, since it can survive being cooked in a literal oven, then even that one potential natural defense is meaningless. The fungus has effectively future-proofed itself, and you likely can't even burn it away anymore.
Nooo 😭😭😭
Why are you scaring me like this
Now I won't be able to sleep (Tʖ̯T)
time to acquire a substance that is from the exact femtosecond the universe was created which is also 900 duotrigintillion celsius
Who could have predicted antifungals though?
Yeast spores nowadays can survive 140 degrees fahrenheit.
Take a spore from a heat-resistant fungus, and it might just survive an oven. Then the spore germinates, infects its host, and horror happens :D
The biggest problem for fungus is time. All fungus require energy to grow, a human body also needs energy. The fungus could just use the energy the human uses instead of the actual human. Evolution is all about two things: survival and ease. If the fungus needed a new host with different properties than the old one it would be advantageous for it evolve in such a way it could infect them. But humans are not the most dominant species on the planet, ants are. Ants are a much more plentiful energy source than people, so why would the fungus evolve to use humans as energy? As for the ease of taking over an ant compared to a person, well, the differences are massive. Ants are like a Petri dish, nice, simple, easy to take over. Humans are like a desk, lots of competition by other species for few bits of energy. The Petri dish is just the better option.
That’s not to say the desk is impossible for a fungus to colonize, but it would be significantly harder.
I love that little joke of "we'll be back" right after that scientist says "we lose". Yeah, he was saying "we'll return to the program after these commercials" but it also references humanity's survival against the virus for a good 20 years despite just how bad things have gotten in that time.
Deep one. Good catch
I am glad you took the time to explain it.....sort of ruins it...and those who did not get it, did not need an explaination either.
"Stop having fun!" -this guy@@AchimEngels
It's not a virus. It's a mushroom.
The FUNGUS
I have come back to watch this video so many times, John Hanna just kills it in this scene, I love the transition to comedic laughs to utter terror when he describes the possibility of this actually happening
This cold open to episode 1 is hands down the most scariest scene out of the entire 1st season, no jump scares, no infected (like clickers) it's the dialogue & how the audience reacts to the possibility of a fungal infection that could infect & control humans.
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Ugh I thought it was the scene where they asked the scientist lady what they should do about the new unknown infection.
@@MarsFromEarth1 It's not *your* video. It's a clip from a show.
Fully agree, I have to say, as much as I loved the show, I kind of hope, they wont make more seasons, the ending was just perfect
@@BlueberrySwede You do realise this show is based on the game which already has two instalments and is rumoured to have a third at some point? If you didn’t know that then let me just tell you, the second game is just as good as the first if not better and would make an amazing show.
John Hannah went from fighting mummies, to being a doctor talking about a pandemic
Hey don't forget a owner of gladiators
He was also an amoral futurist who thought cybernetic implants were the next step in human evolution and created an off-brand knockoff of the Matrix.
@@MrPjw5 Is this a reference to something? I'm interested, but I don't know what this refers to.
@@thek2despot426Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It's actually worth the watch.
@@jackkelly7855 a moulder of gods, titans!!
John Hannah is the king of memorable secondary/tertiary roles
He's a critical part of hte best two episodes of Carnivale.
Yup ever seen Spartacus
@@100milesnrunnin He's got one liners in sparticus that rival Ian McShane's in deadwood. The dude's great.
The great House of Batiatus!
I’ve always loved him playing Jonathan in the Mummy movies, he was absolutely hilarious!!
1:46 is that exact moment the host stopped smiling at the comment of flesh eating. He realized this isn't science fiction or a joke.
Probably the scariest scene of the whole show. I'm glad this was the opening because it hooked me in right away. This is how you make a video game adaptation. Just as amazing as the game.
It was cringe
@@Loquacious_Jackson The intro or the entire show? This intro was cool but from what I hear in other videos and on comments the show as a whole sucked.
@@UWG3 you've been very selective then with the videos you watch
@@167kinggam Not really. If the show's good then please tell me, does it stay faithful to the source material? Is the acting good, does the liberties they took from adapting a game to TV make for a better property?
@@UWG3 i was addressing your point about various videos and comments saying it sucks. Because a majority of the internet is full of praises. Im confused how you didn’t stumble upon them.
What I love about this scene the most is the fact that he isn’t even saying it’d be strictly from cordyceps, but any fungus given the right circumstances can become a threat
Which is ridiculous. Portobello mushrooms are not about to suddenly evolve to zombify us. He mentions aspergillus, the mold essential to Japanese cuisine consumed in huge quantities. Miso paste will not suddenly turn us into zombies. This is not how evolution works. Saying any fungi could potentially suddenly zombify us is like saying any plant, animal, insect, or bacterium could suddenly evolve to zombify us. The precedent given are a handful of exotic fungi that evolved over long periods of time with a fee species of small insects. Evolution is gradual. Besides, fungicides exist. There is fungal disease and antifungal medication. You can walk into any pharmacy and buy such medications to kill fungal infections like athlete's foot. The more common fictional modified rabies virus and supernarural explanations are more plausible than the overnight evolution of a fungus that can turn humans into zombies. An engineered bioweapon, alien technology, magic, and good old fashioned divine retribution are more plausible than the sudden emergence of human zombifying fungus.
The pseudoscientific explanations that have been in vogue to be explain zombies over the last several decades are less believable than magic. These are walking corpses, often living indefinitely. There is no mechanism for them to function. Muscles cannot work without the human organs and behaviors that sustain them. Anyone zombified would be dead in a few days, since they don't have any self-preservation instincts. They'd die of dehydration. In a few hours, they'd be tired. In cold regions, they'd freeze outside. In hot regions, their bodies would degrade extremely quickly.
My son who was diagnosed with autism also has a severe candida infection (aspergillus niger to be exact). It is believed to have caused his condition, and is becoming more and more common worldwide, along with increases in cancer, and other serious diseases.
@@christophersheldon7088 Please don't go around spreading misinformation on the internet❤
@@christophersheldon7088 Candida is becoming a threat because of its ability to thrive in clinical settings, but I have never heard of it being able to cause autism. I think you may have misunderstood something.
@Michael-jp8ir Gut dysbiosis and candida are extremely common in ASD children and adults. Candida is linked with many different mental disorders and diseases. I believe damage to the vagus is what caused my son's autism, and anti-fungal medication (combined with low carb/sugar/dairy diet) has changed his life for the better. Perhaps some research is needed on your end.
A Masterpiece scene. Excellent writing, directing, and acting.
The scene is terrifying, but not by playing with audience's basic reflexes with jump-scare or tension. No, it honors our intelligence, directly speaking to our imagination. WE create the horror as he speaks. WE picture it in our minds, and oh God, WE know it CAN happen.
No, its impossible to happen. Its a science fiction, don't take it too seriously (but kudos on the directors to cherrypick the facts to make it 'reasonable' in TLOS universe, hence the immersiveness).
TL;DR:
The nature of human body is way, way, WAY complex than ant's to make it a reality. The reason why ants that are infected with cordyceps are 'zombified' is because the fungus infected the ant's muscle membranes instead of the mind, which is way, way, way harder to achieve in mammals. Insects like beetles got infected by cordyceps having the similar end but they didn't get 'zombified' because it takes too much energy to spread throughout the muscle membranes. All that with the combination of the complexity of our immune system with the likes of neutrophils and integrins to combat fungus infection is making it more irrelevant, unless your immune system is having a bad time in the wrong time.
And we still didn't dive into the topic of antifungal medical treatment yet, which is a thing for literally millennials. A simple antifungal treatment can easily chase off the fungus out of our body. If people are really concern with fungus related topic, we should all focusing on Antimicrobial resistance (AMR) instead as fungus are growing resistance to antifungal medical treatment in recent years. The entire world still didn't bother to focus on such concerning subject yet as little development and research are being done on it (Sounds familiar? Thats right, its a similar vibe as COVID back in 2020 as human never gives a fuck until shit hits the fan). WHO's 2019 report has stated that there are literally 1.27 millions of casualties caused by AMR, and speculated that by the year of 2050 it will reach 350 million casualties, yearly deathly toll will be 10 millions.
All-in-all, we should focus our effort in combating AMR instead by voicing our concerns to the global community. Fungus are a magnificent creature with tons of benefits when controlled and combat well, but when its out of control, don't expect it will end well.
Stay strong, stay healthy.
@joker_j1268 his explanation of the world getting warmer and thus causing this danger has been corroborated by actual scientists so yes it could happen
You just made the scene even better. Excellent analysis of how the horror takes place within our imagination.
@@joker_j1268 Excellent thoughts, except for your points in the first paragraph, I find no other fallacies in the monologue in the video, it all really makes perfect sense.
As for the second paragraph, awesome man!! That parallel to COVID hit hard, but I wonder there may be much more cases like AMR that are on upward trend and risk an explosion like COVID, are we really tracking them all? Do we have the capacity to track them all? WIll THAT be a doom for us??
This is a great explanation of why so many say "the book was better than the movie."
I like that they added this scene to the story. It doesn't barge into the narrative like "HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT, HERE'S THE EXPOSITION" like it could have if the interview was set in the modern day, but it still gives a good grounding for why what happens happens.
Superbly acted as well.
That "but what if, for instance, the world were to get slightly warmer?" was perfectly done.
Makes you realize that this isn't all that far-fetched.
EDIT: "Not all that far-fetched" still means "far fetched", people.
No, it is. It's more plausible for something like rabies to evolve in such manner.
No, it makes you realise how gullible some audiences can be
@@alepuc89 but whether or not rabies might evolve that way doesn't influence the possibility of a fungus evolving that way, does it?
There are hot regions of the world that dont cool down that well if at all, yet we have not seen any 'evolution of fungi that could or would change and infect humans the way it would ants, humans arent ants, we are more complicated than an ant.
The Only way fungi like Cordycepts could actually do what is in this show or what the fella explained in the beginning is if it had outside 'help' (like Gain of Function)
@@Rink03 it all depends on one lucky mutation.
Not only the main actors, but even the audience crowd also, went from jovial to completely silent and feeling devastated!
That’s how you write a script, not spend 10+ seasons explaining the pandemic…
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The host and the audience's reaction in this scene is completely stupid though.
@@smockytubers1188 how?
@@notblabby some people just like to disagree
@@notblabby People doomsay all the time. Nobody ever pays them much heed. Imagine some random doctor you've never heard of telling people in 2019 on Colbert's show that if we don't lock down China we'll have a pandemic within a year. Okay, now imagine it's 1968, when everyone's worried about nuclear war with the Soviets and racism, and tell them instead of a pandemic from China it's global warming that is going to cause mushrooms to evolve and kill us all. Now imagine that not only are you hearing this from some random guy on Johnny Carson's show (who would not have realistically hosted an event like this at all anyway) but there's also another well-respected scientist there who's saying this guy predicting the apocalypse is overreacting and exaggerating at best, if not flat-out wrong.
You're telling me that you're gonna go from giggling about doing acid to gulping with dread in the span of 3 minutes from that? Are you that gullible? When you watched this scene did you immediately google whether what he was saying in the script is actually realistic and think we might be doomed in real life too? Why not? If the audience's reaction is believable I mean.
Edit: I don't mean this to come across aggressively or insultingly. I'm just saying when we see scenes like this in shows we feel the emotions the host is displaying. But that's because we know. We know what happens, we know what the show is trying to portray, we know what it wants us to feel, and we don't mind feeling it because that's what we're watching the show for. In real life we react differently to these things. You can find over a hundred ways the world is going to end within half a century with a 5 minute google search. Some of which might be written by credentialed and respected individuals like this character is meant to be. Normal people won't react like the host and like the host's audience reacts because they've either heard of these things or don't believe it. Especially if it's something that seems implausible on its face like evolving mushrooms, instead of say, nuclear war which very much would have been at the forefront of people's minds in this year and even yet would not have elicited such a powerful response as shown.
The hosts face at 2:22 as he puts all the peices together before the scientist can say them, and it begins to dawn on him that maybe, maaaybe what the scientist is saying is more than just some thought experiment about Fungus, and actually has a realistic basis is an incredible moment. That shift from casual, humerous, comfy talkshow, to the dread of realising that however minor there is still some chance this could happen, is an amazing moment.
That host face tell that: "I hope that kind of thing will never happen and if its, i hope i already dead to not saw it coming"
My face changed with the host. I also was smiling up until that point hahaha
Masterclass writing and acting
the writers for this scene and the people responsible are amazing at their job. by far the coolest explanation for a zombie apocalypse that I have ever seen
It's a lot scarier, actually. The fungus doesn't take control of the brain, but instead the body, basically cutting off the brain and leaving the host with no control of their own body.
Yikes, wouldn't like to be a passenger in that train.
@@simcoyote
True
Yeah but still nonsense. The guy r retends anti funguls dont exist (they do). That fungus have complete control of ants (they dont). And that the nervous system of a human is similiar to an ant (many fold times more complicated).
I get its just a show, but people might by some of these arguments without thinking.
Very similar to someone being fully paralyzed, except instead of being motionless your body is being moved against your will, you feel all the pain and exhaustion as usual but you can do nothing. Prisoner in your own mind. For me, the most terrifying iteration of the zombie in pop culture by far
The game of this show actually established that very fact in the background. There's certain times in the game when you can sneak around and encounter the infected and if you manage not to alert them, you can hear the human inside crying as it eats another person. They are very much just along for the ride.
Why I love this opening:
1: The scientist throws a confusing curve ball with saying fungus is a bigger threat than a virus.
2: He explaining the stages of infection from the game as those who have played it (like me) remember.
3: The phrase “What of the earth were to get slightly warmer and the fungi has reason to evolve” REALLY hits now.
4: Explaining how we will lose if a fungal infection in humans like that ever happens.
Edit: Why is there so much angry misery in the replies? I’ll never know.
Fungi evolved during Cambrian, 20 degrees warmer than present "Climate". ......
Mammals evolved 208 million years ago
Primates 55 million years ago
Humans 200,000 years ago
they've had that long to infect us
It’s always global warming.
@@mr.xernorus4026 the weather fluctuates, but the microorganisms that were present then were different. Now thay had time to change, and have another roll of dice to mutate.
Lmao the global warming deniers bots found this post
@@ClemiHW you really think driving a car is gonna start a zombie apocalypse?
I wasn't really scared until he said "what if the world were to get slightly warmer" that gave me chills
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You didn’t get “chills” quit exaggerating
typical carl sagan behaviour
@@bugradogan2431 people always comment on some of the most mundane tv/movie scenes “I got chills down my spine” no you didn’t.. it’s fucking cringe
@@carlsagan2607 I did, and I'm sure he did too. Besides, this is youtube comments. No need to get so mad over it.
Watching this in the Pandemic back in the day started with mild chuckles but stuck with me for days. This is probably the scariest scene on TV in the last few years. The implications of our own world and the comparison to real life fungi just ... It's a nightmare. Beyond horrifying. No cure, no preventatives.
Yeah but this would be an actual pandemic.
There are cures but the issue is fungi are always developing resistance, and the overuse of agricultural fungicides only exacerbates the issue
@@aidanwilliams9452 Exactly. Fungi aren't simple viruses or bacterias, they are complex living beings far closer to animals than to plants. Just like we quickly evolved to resist the poisons in so many of the things we eat (seriously, so many things humans eat are actually poisonous to other animals) fungi can do the same. Nothing that actually works against fungi will work for very long. Hell, that's what happened in the video games and the show, the fungi evolved hard plates around their host brains to be more resistant against blunt trauma and bullets.
Good enough reason to get off the planet if we start seeing the signs, lmao
The only zombie theory that actually puts fear to my heart.
Also, even if it dosn't evolve to kill us. It could evolve to spread faster among our food supply, plantations, meat etc, which would be a dramatic hit to our survival as well.
I thought that the 28 days franchise has an extremely terrifying take on the zombie theory. Super-rabies that spreads from bites and blood? Unrealistic given the time the infection kicks in, but…let’s just say it revolutionized the zombie genre for a reason.
@@BenjaminSteber Interestingly enough, from an epidemiological standpoint, the Rage Virus is easily contained. Its rapid onset and virulence ensures that it cannot spread past geographical boundaries and, thus, cannot infect the entire world.
They all seem to bounce off each other in one way or another. Halo did this with the Flood through some of the original lore. It's a fungus that evolved into a hive mind. Then they ruined it with some story about a shape-shifting ancient hyper intelligent race. Even 20+ years later, I still hate that level when they first show up.
So that ergot that he talked about used to be in untreated grain, so lots of bread made in the middle ages would literally make go mad and even die - their limbs rotting and falling off - sometimes called St Anthoy's Fire . All because of some mouldy grains - particularly in Rye and in countries that were a bit colder and wetter.
@@aquamote
True. However, the affliction was caused by Ergotamine Toxicity. Ergotamine is a toxin produced by the fungus, Ergot. The fungus itself dies while being cooked.
With the single line "what if the world were to get slighlty warmer" they made everyone watching shiver. I can only hope with enough work and practice to ever getting to this quality of writing
Made everyone shiver. Ironic, that ;)
The sudden tight shot when he says "But what if..."
I still get goosebumps. Love this scene!
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there is no need to guess "what if" when "being hotter" has occurred before, many times in earth's history.
in fact avg temps used to be over 30c.
It's nice to see a fictitious audience intently listening and considering the validity of what he's saying, instead of every movie and show ever with audiences that like to shake their heads and chuckle because "that's ridiculous"
Different era though. The audience would have more decorum compared to the modern world.
The audience did react quite skeptically, until it started to scare them.
@@JonatasAdoM Yeah you can tell the exact moment when they realized he had a point
In the 60s it was thought the world was becoming colder and heading for a new ice age. So it would have been more likley that they would have.
They sold the show in less than 5 minutes. It was godly. Absolutely hooked from the start
The Scene itself is pretty simple, but it does an amazing job at foreshadowing the outbreak, how far ahead the Doctor saw of the fungi outbreak and the death and chaos it.
Even the other doctor, the TV show host, and the crowd horror in silence. I actually would love to see more of him in some way.
You can see the other doctor nod at "we lose". even if he thinks the chances of fungi evolving that way is slim to none, he admits if it happened, we'd be dead.
“We lose.”
I love that line. No one hits harder than mama nature.
John Hannah's delivery in this was a masterclass in acting.
Loved this scene. Of course, if this were reality, the terrifying "zombie ant" fungus was only able to develop the mind-control behavior after millennia of co-evolving with ants in the same geographic location, an evolution that sophisticated would be very unlikely to occur in any fungi that affects humans, and even if it did, we'd probably see it coming in plenty of time to develop countermeasures, or at least prevent any kind of catastrophic spread like what happens in the show. But, as a sci-fi, zombie apocalypse premise, this is about the best one out there.
I'm a biologist, specifically a postdoctoral researcher of neurogenetics. Given the number of spores a fungal fruiting body releases when it sporulates...I am not sure that this is unlikely. It actually seems like a real possibility. Let's hope not.
@@LukeDOMGBBQ A number of insects are susceptible to to these fungi, but that hasn't prevented these insects from achieving a healthy population.
For that matter, our bodies constantly encounter hostile fungal spores in stupendous numbers every day. Cordyceps may have a novel method for spreading it's spores further if it sufficiently infects a host, but it still has to defeat the hosts immune system.
@@Sethgolas To counter your points, human society is integrated in ways that even ant colonies don't replicate. Ant colonies are isolationist and two ants from different colonies meeting typically results in all-out war. This means that ants roam inside their own territory with little "exploration" of the vast world outside of it except for food. A single fungal epidemic can wipe out an ant colony, but transferring to the *next* colony is where the difficulty lies. Human travel and societal integration means that the spread is already almost guaranteed.
As for the immune system, humans are already being slowly stripped of their immune system in the developed world. Everything being "clean" and the sheer lack of exposure to nature that city dwellers have means that they are even more susceptible to transmission as we sit.
I think its the best reason "why" zombies exist. Too many times, zombie infection takes on a bit of a supernatural component. Last of Us has a somewhat plausible reason for zombies.
Sounds exactly like something a fungus would say..
I haven’t watched the show or played the games, but this scene plays out so memorably and is so well crafted, makes me want to dive into this world in all its mediums.
I envy you! Both are great, if you decide to dive in, you're in for a treat! Bring tissues
@@CataRDJ I love the comradery!!
God, please do. You're in for a ride.
Do it. You dont have to buy a videogame console, just watch one of the many playthroughs here on RUclips. You wont regret it. IMHO, watch the games before the show if you do.
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Many people probably remember another scene from chernobyl: "It's not 3 roentgen, it's 50k" this scene has the same horror to me, hits terribly.
The black fungus recently killed 4500 people in India. It mutated to tolerate higher host body temperature and came out of nowhere. It is only a matter of time until we get a fungal pandemic, and it will most likely not turn us into zombies, but will have a mortality rate around 30-60%.
it came out of the use of steroids and fungal growth in oxygen tanks during the covid second wave
Oh god we are doomed
it didnt kill as much as it maimed people, eyes and other afected parts had to be removed of some peoples. horrifying scenes. hospitals was where it spread
@@siddharth2998 so if its mutate we are dommed
@@gigachad3457 not really, black fungus has always existed and our immunity systems have kept us from the black fungus since time immemorial. Mucormycosis is a very rare infection. It is caused by exposure to mucor mould which is commonly found in soil, plants, manure, and decaying fruits and vegetables. it also stays in the nostrils of people but donot affect them, if ur already weakened by an existing condition only then it gets dangerous. it doesnt need to mutate to harm you it already can it depends on how good ur imunity is. the second wave of covid ravaged the healthcare in India and this was a result of that
I was hooked on this show in the first 3 minutes. I've never had that happen before. Normally, it takes half an episode or so. But this chilling opening is so effective.
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Same 💯
I felt that "Ah shit" 😂💀
And people who played the game and now are watching the movie have the CJ mentality
" aahh Sh*t here we go again"
@@Hans353 CJ?🤔
@@GameslordXY Carl johnson from gta san andreas
Ha I’m in danger
@@GameslordXYhow can one not know who cj is
I really appreciate when the writing for a character scientist actually speaks with real facts and principles from the real world, instead of speaking make-believe complicated jargon that SOUNDS real enough to the general audience (*cough cough* “flux capacitor” mumbo jumbo). And honestly, that’s what makes this scene all the more terrifying. The LoU video game was already terrifying using a real world fungus as the catalyst for hypothetical human apocalypse. But watching this scene, hearing the scientist actually talk about the hypothesis, that’s what made this world tread the line of plausibility and makes it truly terrifying. (One thing that’s not quite right, there are INDEED fungi that can live within the human body, despite our body temperature. Meningitis is a fungus that attacks your spinal cord and brain. Candida auris attacks your heart, blood vessels, central nervous system, bones, and eyes. The real world is truly terrifying, but I hope none of us live to see a reality where a human cordyceps emerges. Rabies, although a viral infection, is already closer to a zombie than I would like anything to exist).
This guy is epic in Spartacus... As far as being an actor ...he's top shelf
Spartacus ? is that same guy who get to have segg with many girls in almost every opening scene in every ep ?
@@anacc9261 there are none straighter
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i love how the scene goes from lighthearted to unsettling in a matter of minutes. the cold opens played an intrinsic role in setting the direness of the world of TloU.
"We'll be back"
Morgan Freeman voice: "They would not, in fact, be back".
I like the way you think lol
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So Jonathan has left the mummies in peru and now has to deal with zombies now. Next he ll have to deal with vampires.
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Loved when he blamed his nephew when asked why he chose a bus as an escape car from the mummies
I knew I recognized the actor!
Fun fact: Humans core temp is dropping every decade or couple of decades or so now it’s 36.5 used to be 38 in earlier human so you never know we might let the fungus grow at 34 lol
Fahrenheit or Celsius?
@@skiboi Celsius
Well I'm certain the reason for that would be the globe warming up after the ice ages receded, no longer needing a higher body temperature to withstand the frigid temperatures
@@gabrieltorres3932 nah, considering the fact we only started measuring that in the last 2 centuries it's most likely due to a reduced amount of infections causing fevers. If less people are sick, less people have fevers and less people are hot (haha). That's the issue with averages, they seldom tell the full story.
@@aytekineric8306 But there was a mini ice age which ended in the 19th century, that could've been a factor too. Its also the reason we're seeing "Record temperatures", because we started recording around the time it ended, before the planet started warming up.
I don't know if it's intentional or by accident, but the close up of the scientist explaining at the end reminds me of the famous clip from Robert Oppenheimer when he said " Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
I got reminded of that too, I kinda got chills.
Ps: The Oppenheimer movie is gonna be great
@@pjv3963 Didn't know there will be a movie.. I recently watched a documentary about him and his life was very interesting. Thx for the info, I will definetly check out the movie :) ...edit: I just googled the movie and damn does it have a great cast and director. thx again for the info :)
@@_etwas_ you're welcome. You need to see the trailer if you haven't already
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That's the same actor who's gonna play Oppenheimer is it not? I stand corrected peaky blinders guy got it, I've gotta say though this actor, peaky blinders, and Oppenheimer himself all have a similar look about them.
2:29 well guess what cordyceps is boutta do
Hannah send chills down the spine. His sharp delivery on the "what if" line was cold as F**k. It immediately got our attention and we felt like part of the audience on the chat show. All because the delivery of his lines were utter perfection.
Also know its a completely far fetch scenario. But i love how they used some scientific facts and mixed it with science fiction. It gave it believability even though its just a complete misdirection of a fact with a lot of fiction into it.
So why is he wrong? That's not a challenge - I'm honestly curious.
@@Atreus21 For one, we do have means of combating fungal spores from disseminating in the air. Air filters would be the first line of defense on a macro scale. I'm not certain that likening human behavior to that of ants is entirely accurate. Sure, humanity is also a social species, but ants are on a whole different level of population density. And most importantly, unlike ants, we have scientific methods to assess human brains for abnormalities.
@@jonahmiller5881 yeah, that was the only thing that was false in his speech. Most of the other stuff could happen, but we do have ways to fight fungal infections.
@@AnthonyJMurph The problem is that any infection of the brain is exponentially harder to treat. We have a structure in our bodies called the blood-brain barrier. This is a membrane around our central nervous system that is extremely selective about what it lets through, far more selective than most of the other membranes in our bodies (lungs, stomach, intestines, etc.) and this is a good thing. It prevents most viruses and bacteria from crossing into the central nervous system, which without modern medicine was almost always fatal.
But some microorganisms are a lot more effective at crossing the blood-brain barrier (Meningococcus bacteria for example), and that means that the antibiotics or antivirals have to be able to follow them into the central nervous system. This can be a serious pharmacological challenge though since the blood-brain barrier is really selective about what it allows across.
So yeah, we have a ton of antifungals that can treat a fungal infection in the lungs or the bloodstream, but not as many that are able to cross the blood-brain barrier. If a fungus evolves that is either immune or resistant to the CNS antifungals that we have discovered, then that represents a serious problem if that fungus is also highly infectious. Not likely, since a lot of things have to happen in tandem, but over a long enough timespan anything can evolve.
I was sad he left Transplant
John Hannah as always a master at his craft. Brilliant actor.
Craig Mazin, this show creator also stands behind other highly anticipated HBO project "Chernobyl". This man sure knows how to TELL the horror story and does it well. It's quite a unique feature nowadays.
I appreciate that they fought the urge to have the doctor's response at the end be: "Game Over". Lesser video game adaptations wouldn't have been able to resist.
Honestly this was one of the best scenes in the entire show
“We lose” That simple answer gave me chills.
the moment he said "The world were to get slightly warmer?" my expression matched the tv host. Cause it does feel like the world has been dealing with that, this has been the hottest summer in decades after all, we've been dealing with higher temperatures. Its like, damn, talk about putting some actual fear into your writing with a simple explanation like that, that gives you the feeling that this could happen in real life too.
Neumann: “What if the world were to get slightly warmer?”
Me: “Eheheheh, ah man wouldn’t that be cra… ah, fuck.”
Temp has very little to do with it. Its directly related to the increase in carbon in the atmosphere. My son who was diagnosed with autism also has a severe candida infection (aspergillus niger to be exact). It is believed to have caused his condition, and is becoming more and more common worldwide, along with increases in cancer, and other serious diseases.
Something that I don’t think gets enough credit is the subtle offbeat shrill chord that follows the deafening silence into a blackout… it drives home the feeling of impending doom… it almost serves as a weary groan, as the inevitable is soon to come.
Nah, it’s pretty cliche. I’d argue the scene should’ve been kept without a soundtrack.
How the mood changes from a pleasant chit chat to a dead serious tense gives me the chills, even after the third time watching
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I remember listening to a science podcast a few years ago about how we evolved and earned our right to survive this world and a big part of that is our internal temperature kills off fungus. But studies are showing that humans internal temperature are lowering very slowly, kinda scary
Even scarier when the show implies that the fungus is adapting to warmer temperatures, narrowing that threshold even more.
Were either going to nuke our planet out of existence or get to a technological level so high that eradicating a genome off of the earth with some gene virus would be possible
I love the little details like everything is fucking brown and they're all smoking. Because before the 90s everyone smoked, everywhere.
The moment he says "Billions of puppets with posion minds..." and we see the audience is just insane... gives me the chills every time.
My favorite thing by far is the unnerving shots of the audience, earlier in the clip they move around and function like indivual people, but by the end they are all mindlessly watching without moving
the beauty of this scene besides there is no background music or cinematography technique used in horror movies, is that as he furthers the discussion the audience (the ones in the show and us who are watching) starts to understand that his explanations make sense and in the end when he made his point, we are all left speechless with fear
These unsettling foreshadowing scenes are always scarier than the actual horror scenes. I've heard it said that the first kill in any horror movie/series sets the tone, but for me, it's little things like this
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This was such a genius opening to the series! 👏 Can’t wait for S2
I actually more scared by this scene than any other horrors movie
That "We lose" gives me goose bumps every time.
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Personally it feels a little anachronistic for me. At first all I could hear was the vague 21st century language from random doomsday movie dialogue. But the camera work and acting is very good so it doesn't throw me off too much.
I love this scene. My favourite part though is where John Hannah’s character is describing the infections purpose and the shot at 2:45 where it shows the four audience members, each one leaning more forward in their seat, giving them a zombie-look….it’s just eerie. Beautiful cinematography and kind of a foreshadowing. Just brilliant. 👌
The part he mentions the hive mentality, all the fungi working together in their hosts to achieve the same goal, and then you see the audience looking like they're hypnotized.
The 1978 "Dawn of the Dead" film opened with a nearly identical scene: A panel of experts having a televised discussion about the zombies.
The hook that changed it all: "what if, for instance, the world were to get slightly warmer?"
That was the line that moved something terrible but extremely unlikely into something tangible, almost certain.
That opening scene set the tone and quality of what was to come. Sublime quality.
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One of the last courses I took for my bachelors was Medical Mycology, and it was probably my favorite class in the degree. I remember thinking mycoses were scary then. They're harder to diagnose than other pathogens because there really aren't many tests for them. You just have to culture them, which can take a couple of weeks, allowing them to do quite a bit of damage in the meantime. This was like 15 years ago so hopefully more rapid tests have become available since then. Treating them could be tricky too. The more powerful antifungals could have dangerous side effects, like kidney or liver damage (I forget which). And even 15 years ago, they were starting to develop resistance to the common antifungals at the time. Fungal infections weren't as common, so I don't think they were too worried about the fungal equivalent of Superbugs yet but, like they mention here, climate change could increase the range and infection rate of mycoses, which increases the likelihood of developing highly antifungal-resistant strains of mycoses. It's possible but less likely that cordyceps could evolve to infect humans. It's pretty specialized for insects and we're too different from insects for that kind of transition to happen quickly. But the fungal infections that already infect humans are bad enough.
there's also a chance it may get a helping hand from humans in other word we may try to genetically alter cordyceps to be a biological weapon
2:41 That scene had the same impact on me as "When there is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the Earth" scene from 2004's Dawn of the Dead. Specially the closeup on his face.
no more room in hell? how can an imaginary place run out of room? just imagine some more caverns, some more lakes of fire etc. bingo bango, more room from nothing, like the miracle of creationism!
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Some times I wonder why atheists act like fanatical zealots if they have no faith
Then I see comments like yours that sound more deranged than conspiracy theorists.
A friend gave me this link. I was a co-author on the original paper that coined the term 'zombie-ant'. At the time I tried to argue that the link should be made to Robert Heinlein's The Puppet Masters.
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What did you think of them saying it was "untreatable", fungal infections are untreatable?, what nonsense
That scene alone was perfect. The atmosphere quickly shifted from the amusement to horror.
Brilliant storytelling
This kind of reminds me of Bill Gates‘ keynote on the next pandemic, back from 2015. He gave a TED talk about our lack of preparation for a global disease outbreak, showing simulations of it‘s spread throughout the world. Damn, it was so crazy to see if really happen so quickly afterwards.
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This scene left such a major impact of fear and uneasiness
A brilliant way to start a story
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if this happened in real life, everyone would tell the one’s most vulnerable, that they “have to live their lives” and “can’t live in fear”