I live in the state where this shooting occurred, and i am also a Gun owner, when the laws were first suggested i was against them, but went along with the law, Today i look back and realise how vital to our country these regulations are, and i still have my Guns.
As someone who drove through Hoddle Street in Melbourne 10 minutes before the massacre started I am forever grateful that our gun laws were introduced. We didn’t have a mobile phone back in those days and my parents (who we were visiting) knew we traveled through Hoddle Street to travel home. The landline was ringing when we got home and my parents were so glad we had not been shot at. We turned on the telly to see the horror that was the Hoddle Street massacre. 😢
By the way, of those three mass shootings in Australia over the last 26 and a half years from 1996 to 2023 since gun control was implemented, one of those was an act of literal terrorism. So, if we're talking about typical domestic shootings like the type they have in America it's only 2.
There are no guards in the banks, I feel safe in the streets just walking around or shopping. The only people I see with a gun are police or the armed guards on the money trucks that deliver cash to banks/shops/etc. I know a couple of families who have a rifle or two but ALL are farmers and they are used to shoot foxes, rabbits or to put stock down. We had a .22 when I was a kid and dad used to take my older siblings shooting rabbits for us to eat a couple of times a year but that stopped around the time I turned 10 in the 1970s.
I believe this argument is incorrect as it ignores societal pressures. America had none in the 1960s and 1 in 1970s the in late 1980s they stated picking up and in the nineties boomed and kept increasing and booming till today. You can pretty much overlay ours and America’s graphs allowing for a 5 year lag in Australia so I believe if we hadn’t had change in gun laws our levels of mass shootings would have continued to mirror the United States as thy had in the past.
There are heavy rumours that all the people killed were head shots. There are two sides to this story and both are incredibly weird. Police reports had differing opinions on what happened. Special forces with accuracy, man didn't know how to load a gun, multiple hair length changes, seen in the area a week before, weather patterns were different during hearing, sunny when the day was full cloud etc., suspect sacked his lawyer. It's just weird.
It was pretty cut and dry . Those trying to block tighter gun regulations tried to muddy the water with unfounded rumours and conspiracy theories. It wasn't taken seriously by most . It was an obvious ploy to sew dissent. It didn't work .
@@macman1469 it's very hard to tell. I know that people were upset etc. but a lot of the evidence wasn't shown or heard. As hard as it was for the families, it was pushed through the courts quite fast. Something that got me from the start on the day, was the police finding a weapon that was supposedly used in the shooting after the fire was put out. Where did the police pick up that particular gun so quickly? You couldn't just get that weapon from a shop but they just had one ready to go for television. It seemed very suss but I'm still glad that we have gun restrictions.
Martin Byrant was 2.2 months of consolitarty confinement & interrogation and was not allowed to see his family. He changed his plea to guilty and there was never a trial. Also 50 yrs the truth and facts will be kept quiet which says the government of the time had something to hide. There's more facts and questions asked if this was really him or was a set up. There's reports of a morgue truck that was sent there before this happened. Australia's top surgeons were in Hobart at a conference which was convenient. People live near by say it wasn't him. He never had the marksmanship to shoot precise shots as happened with head shots etc. There's more questions to be asked which never got answered. If this went to trial he wouldn't of been found guilty. There's a lot more to this than we know.
I live in the state where this shooting occurred, and i am also a Gun owner, when the laws were first suggested i was against them, but went along with the law, Today i look back and realise how vital to our country these regulations are, and i still have my Guns.
As someone who drove through Hoddle Street in Melbourne 10 minutes before the massacre started I am forever grateful that our gun laws were introduced. We didn’t have a mobile phone back in those days and my parents (who we were visiting) knew we traveled through Hoddle Street to travel home. The landline was ringing when we got home and my parents were so glad we had not been shot at. We turned on the telly to see the horror that was the Hoddle Street massacre. 😢
Not just mass shootings but also gun crime in general
By the way, of those three mass shootings in Australia over the last 26 and a half years from 1996 to 2023 since gun control was implemented, one of those was an act of literal terrorism. So, if we're talking about typical domestic shootings like the type they have in America it's only 2.
There are no guards in the banks, I feel safe in the streets just walking around or shopping. The only people I see with a gun are police or the armed guards on the money trucks that deliver cash to banks/shops/etc. I know a couple of families who have a rifle or two but ALL are farmers and they are used to shoot foxes, rabbits or to put stock down. We had a .22 when I was a kid and dad used to take my older siblings shooting rabbits for us to eat a couple of times a year but that stopped around the time I turned 10 in the 1970s.
I believe this argument is incorrect as it ignores societal pressures. America had none in the 1960s and 1 in 1970s the in late 1980s they stated picking up and in the nineties boomed and kept increasing and booming till today. You can pretty much overlay ours and America’s graphs allowing for a 5 year lag in Australia so I believe if we hadn’t had change in gun laws our levels of mass shootings would have continued to mirror the United States as thy had in the past.
There are heavy rumours that all the people killed were head shots. There are two sides to this story and both are incredibly weird.
Police reports had differing opinions on what happened. Special forces with accuracy, man didn't know how to load a gun, multiple hair length changes, seen in the area a week before, weather patterns were different during hearing, sunny when the day was full cloud etc., suspect sacked his lawyer. It's just weird.
You simply haven't a clue what you are talking about
It was pretty cut and dry . Those trying to block tighter gun regulations tried to muddy the water with unfounded rumours and conspiracy theories. It wasn't taken seriously by most . It was an obvious ploy to sew dissent. It didn't work .
@@macman1469 it's very hard to tell. I know that people were upset etc. but a lot of the evidence wasn't shown or heard.
As hard as it was for the families, it was pushed through the courts quite fast.
Something that got me from the start on the day, was the police finding a weapon that was supposedly used in the shooting after the fire was put out.
Where did the police pick up that particular gun so quickly? You couldn't just get that weapon from a shop but they just had one ready to go for television.
It seemed very suss but I'm still glad that we have gun restrictions.
Martin Byrant was 2.2 months of consolitarty confinement & interrogation and was not allowed to see his family. He changed his plea to guilty and there was never a trial. Also 50 yrs the truth and facts will be kept quiet which says the government of the time had something to hide.
There's more facts and questions asked if this was really him or was a set up.
There's reports of a morgue truck that was sent there before this happened. Australia's top surgeons were in Hobart at a conference which was convenient. People live near by say it wasn't him. He never had the marksmanship to shoot precise shots as happened with head shots etc.
There's more questions to be asked which never got answered.
If this went to trial he wouldn't of been found guilty. There's a lot more to this than we know.
yeah, nah........FYI, i actually know and spent time with Julian Knight in Gorgan at Port Philip, do not believe the tin foil hatters