Because trolls with multiple accounts come hit dislike on videos like this. They really are that bored with their life to make 100 accounts and hit dislike. 1,000 dislikes can come from just 10 people.
cause they know all the 4chan internet l0rdz will jump on it en masse and dislike it in order to try and skew the public opinion on the subject, its not that hard to figure out
Weird graph. What was the “gun violence” rates before 1996? Oh, it was dropping then too. And even after everyone bought more guns, still lower homicide rates? Weird.
what about alternative kinds of violence. Overall homicide rates since bans, rates of violent crime (assault, rape), and even robbery rates. Lack of evidence to show that lives were saved, and people are better off.
PRObro Who cares, not everyone is a gun nut like you and photos don't kill anyone, The FACT is that in the REAL mass shooting the killer DID use a SEMI-AUTO (L1A1 SLR battle rifle). If you want to look like a gun hero, you should know that guns come in different flavors, including the 308 semi-auto. I see a lot of stupid arguments on the internet and I can't help but to call every single one of them out, but none are so easy to debunk than your ridiculous illogical pro gun arguments to make society safer. It is plain stupid with zero logical or factual basis.
It's a CoD term (I think based on my time with it)... Nothing definitive. If you live under a rock or don't/didn't have/d the normie gaming disease it raises the fire-rate (I think)...
@@the_albanian_meme6041 Go to abortion videos, you'll get the "I'm a strong independent women, it is my body you must not support equal rights." It's really funny.
@@thethirdman225 You fail to see the point. They mention semi automatics and they picture a bolt action rifle and semi auto in the same reference. I think this is either massive incompetence or simple political maneuvering.
1911GreaterThanALL And _you_ fail to see the point that the only people who care about this are the gun lobby. There’s no reason to give a rat’s arse about this when your murder rate - and particularly your gun murder rate - is is drastically out of kilter with any modern western democracy. That is what decides public policy. Getting all wet about a graphic in a video - especially when it is of only marginal interest - is to simply ignore the basic reality that there is a growing resistance to gun lobby terms of reference. It it hardly a major issue compared with the consistent and virulent resistance by the gun lobby to any laws at all, no matter how reasonable. In placing self interest over the rights of people to go about their daily business without being shot, the gun lobby is, in effect, siding with murderers. And you think a graphic showing the wrong type of gun is important? I think there are far more important issues at hand.
@Abuelita * You still have to cock the bolt so that a new round can get in. How the fuck do you turn a bolt action rifle in a fully automatic rifle with just a bumpstock ?
Tyler Kong yes it was a pump shotgun and they also got banned in 1996 but never fear I can still buy a Remington 7600 pump in 30/06 or a 7615 in .223 because there way less dangerous!!
Full auto and semi auto arent the same. Full auto is holding trigger as it goes off until u let go. Semi auto is just one pull, one bullet. Kinda like a bolt action, except the guns mechanism loads the next bullet fot u. AR 15 is only a semi auto, so its not an assault rifle. Shame lotta activists dont know the difference.
nellsb i know the difference between full auto and semi auto , and i agree that the terms are often being used in a wrong way, but what differnce does it make having a semi auto ar 15 or a full auto one if you want to kill alot of people fast ? not really that much to be honest
QuiCk well just so you know I think the mass shootings in that we've witnessed in the past are HORRIBLE. but there is a difference in those two words, you said it yourself, but the point I'm really trying to make is if you want to inform the public atleast be honest.
@bongo155 They hardly had a gun problem before then. They never had a gun society. They were a penal colony and guns werennt something they were given many of.
@bongo155 Nice strawman bro. Ridiculing someone's lack of knowledge isn't some kind of pro-gun statement, and certainly not what you made it out to be.
@bongo155 Australia seems to have a different definition of mass shootings then. Darwin shooting happened in 2019. Do you not get out much or are you purposefully being stupid? Then again, liberals like you get confused over your own gender, so...
Also, ignored the fact that having two rifles did not make him more dangerous, as only one could be used at a time and the reload rate with them is as fast or faster than switching between them and the extra weight of the second rifle took away from his ability to carry more ammunition.
Owen Richmond //yes, obviously discredited the entire issue!// They are calling out the wrong thing, they are not showing the statistical trend BEFORE 1996 because it's the same trend, meaning homicide was already dropping at that exact same rate and the firearm ban did NOTHING to change the already existing trend at all. They're also not showing that there was a spike in other types of violent crimes for years after passing the legislation before they leveled off again. They also don't mention that the U.S. saw a similar drop in gun homicides beginning in 1992 and continuing until around 2015 despite the only change being an increase in gun availability. Bloomberg is just doing what they've always done with firearms, trick people who can't look at raw data in to thinking they have a solid case when every study that takes all of the relevant factors into account can't show any causation between bans and lowering the homicide rate.
@MajorLeague This is irrelevant. Self defence cannot be cited as a reason for owning guns in most countries. That is the basic fact. You are trying to conflate two different issues. Australia doesn't have a large population of self-righteous wankers running around waving guns and claiming to be defending themselves from a bunch of other gun waving wankers. It seems America's gun lobby hasn't figured this out. If you didn't have so many guns in the first place you wouldn't be running around talking about using them for self defence. The effectiveness of guns in the hands of civilians is incredibly dubious. In fact, it's mathematically unjustifiable.
As a Kenyan, and after the 2013 Westgate massacre, I feel it should be made easier for ordinary citizens to own firearms. We have a lot of regulations preventing firearm ownership. The result is that most guns end up in the hands of criminals anyways.
You’ll never be given a weapon as you might be able to change your nations future. They don’t want a paradigm shift just cos your life is miserable and helpless to change. Rebel
@Cobbynob the only way you can ban the existence of firearms is to ban metalworking as a concept. Look at the Luty smg. There’s a shotgun that’s two metal pipes with a nail in one end acting as a firing pin, and you slam the two pipes together to set off the gun. Ah, just ban ammo, then. Wrong! Airguns have existed since the late 1700’s, and were capable of killing people. What did it shoot? Lead balls, and didn’t even need black powder.
@@abcdef-hg8ro Do you actually understand rates or do you believe everything the gun lobby tells you? Buddy. There was no compensatory increase in murder by other weapons simply because semi automatics were taken out of circulation. Only American gun owners are capable of believing this.
@@thethirdman225 who said I'm American I'm Canadian we just had our guns banned and its absolute bullshit Australia's violent crime soared look it up don't listen to everything CNN tells u
Elillan Raguparan You didn’t. You had semi-automatic military style rifles banned and it’s a two year buyback program. Australia’s crime rate did not spike in response to the NFA of 1996. Furthermore, any connection with the ban of semi-automatic military style rifles is non existent. Australians don’t use guns for self-defence, much less AR-15s. Never have, never will. Don’t believe everything the gun lobby tells you.
Adam Franasiak This upswing had no demonstrable connection to the gun buyback. Gun crime rates dropped at a greater rate than crime by other means, without a commensurate increase in those other means.
@@thethirdman225 That is incorrect, trying to ignore an inconvenient truth doesn't make it go away, gun homicides had been dropping before the introduction of the nfa and continued to do so after its introduction, however, plenty of unregistered firearms were dumped onto the black market when the laws were passed as they fetched far higher prices there than what the government was offering during its mandatory buy back, causing an influx of weapons into the hands of organised crime.
@@thethirdman225 What people _don't_ say often tells you far more about them than what they do. What Bloomberg doesn't say is the fact that I just mentioned, and I don't blame them, it is a rather inconvenient truth. Not to mention your rather defensive attitude towards me for bringing up this fact speaks volumes in itself. The terrorist who was responsible for the Sydney siege used a shotgun that wasn't turned in during the buyback that he bought on the black market, the child terrorist who shot that police accountant dead outside the police station he worked in used a gun that was not turned in during the buyback but dumped on the black market, the spate of armed robberies of armoured trucks in recent memory, including the robbery that occurred in campsie used a semi auto rifle that wasn't turned in during the buyback, the domestic abuser who shot at police outside their police station after trying to murder his former partner and their children used a shotgun that wasn't turned in during the buyback. Any thinking person would be aware that these weapons are now in the hands of organised crime and the occasional terrorist who buys it off them.
the AR15 used in the port Arthur shooting was a gun that was handed in during an earlier amnesty in Melbourne 1987 , is was then registered to the Vic police SOG's and ended up with a gun dealer and somehow made it's way to port Arthur terry hill firearms. it's estimated that over 300,000 unregistered guns remained in Australia after port Arthur and it might even be more today, now explain how banning semi auto's directly contributed to there being not even one crazy person left in Australian that could of got his hands on one of those unregistered guns and attempted a repeat of port Arthur. Is it because the gun reform fixed the problem ? or there was never a problem in the first place. the answer to why we haven't had an incident since port Arthur is because the Government got the gun reform it wanted so there was no need to plan another shooting
@@timbo853 No, I want evidence of all your claims, from the ownership of that AR-15 to the inference that the Port Arthur massacre was planned (by anyone other than Martin Bryant).
Because they took a stand. People always complain when governments don't stand for anything. Now you're complaining that they did. Damned if they did and damned if they didn't. Australian gun laws enjoy almost universal support.
England used to be the model everyone referred to as to what you should do with gun control. Not anymore. Australia’s gun deaths were already going down before the gun ban, then spiked immediately after the ban, then continued to go down at an equal but less stable rate. Now, let’s compare American states to each other. Far better of a comparison than two countries on the opposite sides of the world. Vermont has very little gun control, yet is one of the safest per capita for gun deaths. California, by far the most controlling when it comes to guns, has the highest rate of gun death by far. What about Texas? Very little gun control there, and (when crimes committed by illegal aliens aren’t counted) is also an extremely safe state. Gun control doesn’t work. The only people who think it does are those who don’t work either.
"England used to be the model everyone referred to as to what you should do with gun control. Not anymore. " England still has less than a fifth the homicide rate of the US. London still has an incredibly low rate for a city its size. "Australia’s gun deaths were already going down before the gun ban, then spiked immediately after the ban, then continued to go down at an equal but less stable rate. " Lol no. The Australian homicide rate was stable for over a decade until the 2002 handgun laws, then it dropped sharply and stayed down. "Now, let’s compare American states to each other." For starters, EVERY US state has a higher homicide rate than Australia. Only 5 are less than DOUBLE the Australian rate. "Vermont has very little gun control, yet is one of the safest per capita for gun deaths." It's also sparsely populated. The largest city is just over 40,000, the rest are less than 20,000. Still, the gun death rate is nearly triple that of Hawaii, which has stricter controls. "California, by far the most controlling when it comes to guns, has the highest rate of gun death by far." Not even remotely close. Clearly you never bothered even looking this up. California has a rate of 4.6/100,000, LOWER than the national average of 5.3/100,000. Now before you point out you were specifying gun deaths, you're still wildly wrong. The California rate is 7.9/100,000, significantly lower than the US average of 11.8/100,000. "What about Texas? Very little gun control there, and (when crimes committed by illegal aliens aren’t counted) is also an extremely safe state. " Lol. Do tell how you separate "crimes committed by illegal aliens" from the official stats. I'm interested :) As for Texas, it's homicide rate is 5.0, again over quintuple that of Australia. "Gun control doesn’t work." You are wrong. "The only people who think it doesn't are those who let the NRA do their thinking for them." Fixed it for you :)
@@ratofvengence since you wanna talk about population than why not mentioned that australia only has 25 million people. That doesn't even come close to touching the u.s. 350 million. So of course aussie is gonna have less crime. You guys only look at mass shooting for the argument. What about wildlife? u.s. is much more dangerous than aussie. Sure aussie might be to most venomous country in the world but any snake can be euthanized by a swing of a shovel. Even with the 1000lbs invasive species like the camel and cape buffalos aren't gonna attack you unless you bother them. Aussie top predator is a dingo. I bet you there's more croc attacks in northern australia than there are gator attacks in southern america. Aussie is lucky that they don't have to deal with bears cougars or wolf packs.
Also australia is basically a big island without borders. You guys don't have to worry about crazy cartel groups operating their businesses next door to you. U.S. gang culture continues to be ridiculous. You wanna talk about gun laws. Look at the state of illinois. All the restrictions they have and there's still 40 to 50 shootings a week in chicago.
@@ratofvengence one of these nations is probably around 1/100th as authoritarian as the other. I’ll give you a hint which one is less tyrannical, it’s the one with the 2nd amendment. So much for keeping Australians safe SMH
@@ratofvengence as somebody who has lived in both country’s, that is not true. Wealth per household in the middle class is significantly lower in Australia than the US. While costs are higher. Money and INDIVIDUAL security is freedom
Last year there was a firearms amnesty in Australia. Over 53 000 firearms and assorted weapons were handed in. There's still tens of thousands of guns illegally owned in Australia and gun violence is still prevalent amongst gangs in Melbourne and Sydney but they rarely kill more than 4 at a time so they're not considered massacres and are largely sidelined by the media. The crimerate was highest in 1999, after the ban so the only notable achievement of gun restrictions in Australia is no mass shootings. Guns have still been used in terrorist attacks though such as the Lindt Cafe siege in Sydney.
Criminal gangs still find a way to get guns on the black market. But the mentally deranged teenager doesn’t have the ability or funds to get them easily. Hence, some gun crime still happens but not on the same level as the USA, and no large scale school massacres like is common in the USA. People can find a way around laws, but it’s the ease of access that is the big problem in the States.
The Czech Republic has a gun deaths rate similar to Australia's, and about in the middle for European nations, yet their gun laws are far less restrictive than those of Australia, Canada, and nearly all other European nations. They still need a license to have one, it's a "shall issue" license, meaning if the government has no reason to deny it, you get your license. You can also own basically any manual loading or semi-automatic weapon you want to, even military style weapons.
@@thethirdman225 As long as even ONE criminal or government agent (but I repeat myself) has a weapon, EVERY AMERICAN should have one of EQUAL caliber and capacity.,
@New York Val Well Val, there are two problems with that. First of all, most Americans don’t agree with you and secondly, whatever the constitution says, gun ownership does not give you the right to take the law into your own hands. If you’re going to pull a gun on someone, you’d better be right or the law will come down on you like a ton of bricks. Private guns, when used on other people, are far more likely to be used illegally than not. For every justified killing by a civilian with a gun, there are approximately 55 gun murders.
2:09 Gun laws varied from state to state. the agreement standardized the laws nationally. semi-automatics, self loading rifles, and shotguns were banned.
You can’t compare 300 million people to the population of Australia you down under moron 😂 and also what about the massive increase in violent crime in Australia after 1996 when people can’t defend themselves criminals will take advantage of that.
@@joseph6677 "You can’t compare 300 million people to the population of Australia" That's what rates are for kiddo. The US has over quintuple the Australian homicide rate. It's worse than Kazakhstan. "also what about the massive increase in violent crime in Australia after 1996" What massive increase?
Why are you contradicting yourself I’m saying you cannot compare those rates in every single country including Australia Right after “gun control”measures were put in place there has been a massive increase in crime and with Australia violent crime and house invasions went up because people couldn’t protect them selfs police are having less and less power to day too do stuff... people need to protect them Selfs. Right now the country I am in has a lot of gun control and a violent crime Went up due to people not being able to protect themselves our once most peaceful cities have turned into Murder locations But gun control works guys 😂
@@joseph6677 "Why are you contradicting yourself" I'm not. You sound confused. "I’m saying you cannot compare those rates in every single country including Australia" Why? "there has been a massive increase in crime and with Australia violent crime and house invasions went up" What massive increase? You keep going on about it, but it doesn't exist. "because people couldn’t protect them selfs" It's never been legal to have guns for self defense here, so that didn't change. "people need to protect them Selfs" Like in the US? Where they have over quintuple our homicide rate? Like that? "But gun control works guys" Yes, it does. Total gun deaths dropped by more than half, total homicide rate nearly halved. I call that 'works'.
Hoàng Nguyên - I've never been to Switzerland. But it looks so nice and managed. Switzerland doesn't have these type of problems. What is your experience with Switzerland?
EU is forcing us to adopt a new gun law through "schengen" agreements, and it’s very restrictive. And guess what ? Switzerland isn’t a member of this crappy union. We can thank our politicians, doing everything to please the EU...
That's false information. We do have compulsory military service but you can deny it and do an alternative service for which you get compensated equally. If you choose to do military service you do not have to keep your gun at home and are not allowed to take any munition home. If you want to keep your gun after your service you have to apply for a gun license.
Yeah we were laughing watching Australians getting herded into hotels, houses and camps against their will. Or being beaten by police for sitting in an open park. All cause a little cold. See how easy it was for them to walk all over you 😆. Didn't happen here. I'll give you a guess why
NRA goway. Most street violence is done with handguns, and the ones where rifles ARE guns used in mass shootings, it's usually in schools, and we need to give those people help instead of banning guns.
Here's the thing, the Australian government bought back 640,000 guns. There are 300 million guns in the US, even if you took 99% away there'd still be 1,000,000 guns...
Piggonboy How do you propose 300,000,000 guns get gotten rid of? Serious question here, really. And why? Considering the number of gun-related homicides is 9000/yr compared to 300,000,000 firearms, it's literally a statistical anomaly that people get murdered by firearms. 0.003% is in the noise, an accounting error. Then, take into account that between 500,000 and 3,000,000 defensive firearms uses per year, and there really isn't a compelling argument to "get rid of" 300,000,000 firearms. So, I want 1) a compelling argument, 2)your solution and how you would implement it.
Rykov, Lenin’s successor in the Council of Soviet Commissars: “It is our duty to inculcate in the minds of nations the theories of international friendship, pacifism, & disarmament, encouraging their resistance to military appropriations & training, without ever relaxing our own efforts in building our military equipment.”
@@Anth1963 He can't. He'll deny the stats found at the Australian Bureau of Statistics, he'll deny the research because it doesn't fit his preconceptions and conspiracies. Let me put it this way; he thinks there's a conspiracy about Port Arthur. It's low hanging fruit here...
I'd like to thank drugs for winning the war on drugs. I'd like to thank poverty for winning the war on poverty. I'd like to thank guns for winning the war on guns. :D
"Protect my life over your guns" Lady, if someone murdered you, then that someone will either have a life or death sentence depending on what state you live in.
Actually, if you factor out black-on-black killings in the inner cities, the USA has a very low rate. If you are not a black person in the inner city, you are safer in the USA than in most countries. The important question is, what do we do to decrease black-on-black killings in the inner cities? Will the gangs voluntarily give up their guns if gun ownership is outlawed? Instead of pointing fingers, we need answers.
Evan Anderson thanks for the information Mr. Pansy. By the way, did your history book taught you the Australia was built by criminals that were expatriated from their country for being criminals.
@@mikeg5616 That's fair, and thank you for admitting it. But how does that point now work? To reduce the death toll on the road, restrictions and regulations were brought in. It worked, thousands less deaths every year. But apply the same logic to guns? People lose their minds...
The gun laws in Australia are tough but fair. If you want a firearm for sporting purposes you can have one. America shouldn't look at us, we don't have a 2nd Amendment, it's very different. I miss my pump-action though.
Forcibly confiscating millions of firearms, even when you compensate the owners for it, is definitely not fair. The government has no right to steal or destroy your property, but no one in Australia stood up to stop them. Now you're going to have to live with the consequences of a mostly unarmed populace, and what is turning into an authoritarian regime.
I miss my m16 and my m1 garand but at lest lever actions weren’t banned but we Australians should be allowed to protect ourselves from criminals with guns but our government would rather have us dead then let us protect ourselves. Also australia bans toy guns like airsoft and gel blasters they say that they are more dangerous then real guns and classify water gel balls as real ammunition what has this country come to
@@tacticalbacon7386I would suggest figuring stuff out before it gets to the point where the government steps in and takes away the toys without a buyback, I hope people in other countries can. Because I love living in Australia (hate the land prices though lol)
@@ratofvengence very true. But remember, USA is 14x the population of Australia. overall violent crime increased immediately after the ban and has been steady since. Similar to here in the UK.
@@user-ei7ed6zy9k "But remember, USA is 14x the population of Australia." Yes, that's why rates are very useful. The USA, with all those guns for 'protection', has over quintuple the homicide rate of the UK or Australia. "overall violent crime increased immediately after the ban and has been steady since." Not remotely true. Firstly, guns aren't banned in Australia. Secondly, the trend of rising violent crime was established several years before the 1997 gun laws, and did not get worse. After the 2002 changes to handgun laws, the rate of violent crime and gun crime dropped. The total homicide rate nearly halved, total gun deaths more than halved.
@@ratofvengence I think where you're missing the point is that overall violent has been dropping in USA and Australia since the early 90's. Gun are banned in the UK but it's also the knife crime, acid attack and burglary capital of the world. Even this senior Australian political (something like the foreign secretary) says Australia's gun control will not work in America cos it's completely different. Global homicide rate average is 6.8 USA is 4.9 Australia 1.8 USA has tried federal gun control in 1994-2004 which did not impact the homicide rate. USA handed that power to individual states. Those states with the most strict gun laws have the highest homicide rates and those with the least gun laws have the least homicide rates. More people die from hammers than guns, more people die from cars than guns. You can't ban tool boxes and cars.
@@user-ei7ed6zy9k Dude, you have a whole bunch of wrong information there... "overall violent has been dropping in USA and Australia since the early 90's." Yes, gun violence in the USA was even worse than it is now. It dropped in the late 90's at the same time as the household gun ownership rate dropped. Oh, violent crime in the US has been rising since 2014 according to the FBI stats. "Australia's gun control will not work in America cos it's completely different." Doing exactly the same thing, no it wouldn't. That doesn't mean none of it will. "USA is 4.9" Nope, that was 2015, in 2016 it had risen to 5.35/100,000. "Australia 1.8" Nope, 0.98/100,000. "USA has tried federal gun control in 1994-2004 which did not impact the homicide rate." Of course it didn;t because it wasn't remotely done properly. It was a ban on the purchase of certain new semiautomatic rifles. That's it. It didn't have ANYTHING to do with handguns, which are the firearm most used in crime. "Those states with the most strict gun laws have the highest homicide rates and those with the least gun laws have the least homicide rates." Not that simple. For example, St Louis has lax gun laws, and over double the homicide rate of Chicago. Then there's the fact that most guns in those states simply come from out of state where the gun laws are slacker. "More people die from hammers than guns" Not even close, over 70% of all homicides in the US are shootings. "more people die from cars than guns" There's a real big difference between car accidents and murders...
Give me single reason why America is better than Australia LOL. Countries a mess, homicide rates are higher than african countries and middle eastern as well.
Alex You 14000 yearly homicides in a population of over 350 million people. Not even the third country in the world with the most mass shootings if you account for population. 500,00-1,0000 defensive gun uses each year. Truth hurts, doesn’t it?
We have these things called ELECTIONS that are respected! Give it a try as it seems to work for the rest of the developed world. BTW Total Covid19 deaths Australia 1 256. USA 700 924. Gee how did that happen?
Amazing to see that many lies package such a short video. Shooting had been declining for years in Australia, and the 1996 gun ban had no effect on that rate of decline. Notably, the number of guns in Australia is actually higher now than it was in 1995 due to people's normal levels acquisition over these years. See you might say have a more guns as help them. And by the way there have been four mass shootings in Australia since 1996. Australian gun control has done absolutely nothing to make them safer, all it's done is make people sitting ducks to home invasion.
Interesting that Bloomberg redefine "Mass Shooting" to meet their political objectives. That allows them to conveniently ignore the mass shootings that were not prevented by Australia's gun grab, such as those in: Richmond, Tasmania on 28 June 1997. Adelaide (Wright St), Australia on 8 October 1999. Monash University, Melbourne on 21 October 2002. Hunter Valley, New South Wales on 20 March 2005. Hectorville, South Australia on 29 April 2011. Lockhart, New South Wales on 9 September 2014. Wedderburn, Victoria on 23 October 2014. Sydney, New South Wales on 15-16 December 2014. Parramatta, New South Wales on 2 October 2015. Port Lincoln, South Australia on 4 January 2016. Brighton, Victoria on 5 June 2017. Osmington, Western Australia on 11 May 2018. West Pennant Hills, New South Wales on 5 July 2018. Darwin, Northern Territory on 4 June 2019. The Melbourne nightclub shooting on 14 April 2019. "But they weren't on the same scale as Port Arthur" claim the anti-gun lobby. Well neither was anything in the preceding 60 years
ratman - But you do agree that you have hate speech laws and no freedom of speech. You also agree that your freedom to own guns has been severely restricted? You Aussies need to do what we did centuries ago which is to burn your knee pads, and overthrow that oppressive monarchy that rules you from behind the scenes. Canada needs to do the same.
@@joegambino9792 "But you do agree that you have hate speech laws and no freedom of speech." Two separate questions. "You also agree that your freedom to own guns has been severely restricted?" Guns aren't a freedom, that's where you lot have gotten it tragically wrong. It's a responsibility. That's why the US has a homicide rate worse than Iran, Vietnam and Kazakhstan. "overthrow that oppressive monarchy that rules you from behind the scenes." Well, at least you have made it clear you have no understanding of what a constitutional monarchy is. Incidentally, we aren't oppressed. Didn't I mention we outrank the USA in EVERY freedom index? You seem to have forgotten.
@@ratofvengence Freedom index? Mfer australia banned airsoft and tried to ban nerf guns. Freedom index deranked the US not according to any actual conceivable reason or statistic, but purely because of trumps presidency. Im not even kidding. They litteraly deranked the country just because they didnt like the politician.
@@ratofvengence if you can’t speak hatefully you don’t have the freedom to speak. If you have the ability to use your facilities of reason it becomes clear that this only makes total sense. Owning a firearm is a right as well as a responsibility as are all rights! You also seem to have inherited this strange premise that responsibility and rights are mutually exclusive which is completely false! With the rights to which your fundamentally entitled by virtue of your existence, comes the obligation and responsibility to respect other people’s rights. If you can’t do this safely then society won’t and doesn’t have respect for your rights. This is the very reason why no one makes a 2nd amendment carry argument for a 4 year old.
I live in America. I feel as though that's important to what I have to say. Australia does not have border countries. Australia does not have the enemies we have. And unlike Australia our right to bear arms protects us from our government and those who wish to do us harm. You are defenseless. Your government can take from you whatever they so choose.
Gun homicides were already dropping before the gun confiscation. There are at least two problems with this. First, homicide rates have been in decline throughout western Europe, Canada, and the United States since the early 1990's. The same trend was also occurring in Australia. So gun confiscation had nothing to do with dropping homicide rates. Second homicides were already so unusual in Australia even before the 1996 gun confiscation that it had no real effect on the homicide rate.Homicide rates hit a 51 year low in the US even as many states relaxed gun laws and expanded concealed carry, even allowing open carry.Suicide rates in Australia are up reaching a 10 year high. So much for gun control. Australian gun ownership is almost back up to the same level as before confiscation and the murder rate is still declining. So in the US there are more armed citizens and less crime. The dire predictions when Florida and other states relaxed concealed carry laws did not result in blood in the streets or shootouts at every traffic crash. Crime went down. There are between 500,000 and 2,000,000 defensive uses of guns in the US every year. The exact number is hard to determine due to most people not reporting incidents to police (perhaps because some states with strict gun control laws make them unwilling to call police). Great Britain which is also used as a shining example of gun control has serious crime problems. One in four Brits are victims of violent crime (per the British Home Office). Home invasions and robberies are common. You can be jailed by police or sued by a criminal if you injure them to badly when they attack you. So why would we want British or Canadian style gun laws?
Why? Because instead of gun crime (which was never a real problem in GB when it comes to legal gun owners), GB switched to knife crimes. Hence, GB also banned knives. Surprisingly, despite of said ban, knife crime in GB is higher than ever. Find the error...!
"Both guns were semi-automatic"
Shows a picture of a bolt action rifle.
Ikr
no no they where” rapid fire “ stupid liberal s can’t tell the difference from a shot gun to a m16
@@danielday6468 the editor was using stock footage calm down it doesn't change the story.
Jimpa it changes everything I can’t tell you something is what it is not
These people are full retard man. Gun death down!!! But they have no guns. People still killed each other just different weapon
I wonder why they aren't showing the likes to dislikes....
@TheRealAwesomePersonOfCoolness Paid gun lobby stooges.
Because trolls with multiple accounts come hit dislike on videos like this. They really are that bored with their life to make 100 accounts and hit dislike. 1,000 dislikes can come from just 10 people.
@@ginsuma1402 you are on denial.
I want to see the ratio of like to dislikes too!
Triggered Americans, that's why.
They disabled the up vote/down vote feature. Nice.
‘Cause they’re pussies.
Cause they know they're wrong
cause they know all the 4chan internet l0rdz will jump on it en masse and dislike it in order to try and skew the public opinion on the subject, its not that hard to figure out
@@pissiole5654 get rekt, the public opinion is not in your favor
@@THESLlCK That’s where you’re wrong.
Weird graph. What was the “gun violence” rates before 1996? Oh, it was dropping then too. And even after everyone bought more guns, still lower homicide rates?
Weird.
michael daniel I didn’t even know this thanks proves my point even more
what about alternative kinds of violence. Overall homicide rates since bans, rates of violent crime (assault, rape), and even robbery rates. Lack of evidence to show that lives were saved, and people are better off.
Weird how Australia has the 3rd highest HDI score, 5 out of the top 20 most liveable cities and a homicide rate 6x lower than the US.
It did in fact fall steeper after 1996 though.
but also armed robberies after the buy back rose a lot
....that .308 is NOT semi-automatic... Look in the photo, you can clearly see the bolt action system.
I think the gun they mean is a relative to an fnfal
PRObro Who cares, not everyone is a gun nut like you and photos don't kill anyone, The FACT is that in the REAL mass shooting the killer DID use a SEMI-AUTO (L1A1 SLR battle rifle). If you want to look like a gun hero, you should know that guns come in different flavors, including the 308 semi-auto. I see a lot of stupid arguments on the internet and I can't help but to call every single one of them out, but none are so easy to debunk than your ridiculous illogical pro gun arguments to make society safer. It is plain stupid with zero logical or factual basis.
for all liberals know, that could be a barrel shroud
1:25 the pic used was wrong
the gun used was a L1A1 FN .308
a semi-automatic-only version of the FN-FAL ?
PR0bro liberal bs bro
They showed a bolt action 308 hunting rifle and called it a semi-automatic rapid-fire weapon
Dafuq is a 'semi-automatic *rapid-fire* weapon' anyway?!?!
Yoav Mor IKR LMAO
It's a CoD term (I think based on my time with it)... Nothing definitive. If you live under a rock or don't/didn't have/d the normie gaming disease it raises the fire-rate (I think)...
i knew someone would point that out
Daniel Cadwell it's because the "journalist" has a few extra chromosomes
Semi automatic rapid fire. That makes no sense
Well, at least it makes brainwashed liberals scared the fuck out.
Let alone the .308 is a bolt action, the stupidity in this video
I thought it was dumb too. I looked it up. She's technically right. Some semi-autos (like the AR-15) are "less capable of rapid fire"
@Gary Winthorp Only the American gun lobby cares about this. Australian legislators will not be taking dictation from you.
@Gary Winthorp You tell me I'm ignorant and then you tell me you don't know what I'm talking about? Fucking hilarious!
This whole comment section is just one long continuing roast... I love it
Bruce Wayne I know right. I came here because I was bored and wanted to debate some liberals. No luck here.
It is toasty down here!
@@the_albanian_meme6041 Go to abortion videos, you'll get the "I'm a strong independent women, it is my body you must not support equal rights." It's really funny.
Same
@Abuelita * Hey, calm down... Let's have a civil discussion..
That FN .308 rifle is still legal in Tasmania.... And no it isn't semi automatic.
Bolt action rifles are legal in Australia. So are shotguns (just not pump action ones).
@@thethirdman225 You fail to see the point. They mention semi automatics and they picture a bolt action rifle and semi auto in the same reference. I think this is either massive incompetence or simple political maneuvering.
@Benz1209 You fail to see the point.
1911GreaterThanALL And _you_ fail to see the point that the only people who care about this are the gun lobby. There’s no reason to give a rat’s arse about this when your murder rate - and particularly your gun murder rate - is is drastically out of kilter with any modern western democracy. That is what decides public policy. Getting all wet about a graphic in a video - especially when it is of only marginal interest - is to simply ignore the basic reality that there is a growing resistance to gun lobby terms of reference. It it hardly a major issue compared with the consistent and virulent resistance by the gun lobby to any laws at all, no matter how reasonable. In placing self interest over the rights of people to go about their daily business without being shot, the gun lobby is, in effect, siding with murderers. And you think a graphic showing the wrong type of gun is important?
I think there are far more important issues at hand.
@Abuelita * You still have to cock the bolt so that a new round can get in. How the fuck do you turn a bolt action rifle in a fully automatic rifle with just a bumpstock ?
Bloomberg: "Both guns were semi-automatic, rapid-fire weapons."
Also Bloomberg: * Uses image of a bolt-action rifle *
speed matters
Britain tried Gun Control, and that worked out so well that now they're trying Knife Control.
Oh... wait.
Ask France about truck control.
How about acide control?
Oy bruv, got a license for that stement mate?
Deon The problem is demographics.
haha
2:18 that shotgun was not self loading, it was pump action.
Tyler Kong yes it was a pump shotgun and they also got banned in 1996 but never fear I can still buy a Remington 7600 pump in 30/06 or a 7615 in .223 because there way less dangerous!!
With Guns we are Citizens; Without them We are Slaves!!
@Mr unknown ewww communist
@@tyrannyofexperts actually, without them, we are still citizens, just less armed
It should not be in a persons hand to pump unless they are law enforcement or military
Brought to you by Michael Bloomberg. Now turn in your guns.
Hmmm. No.
woodchuckcider1 You'll have to take it from my dead body
yeah give us your guns so we can control you and strip away at your other rights
No Idea That’s easy.
Semi-automatic rapid fire weapons. Not sure what that means.
They put a picture of a bolt action for the fun scar if that's what they are talking about lol
Rapid fire is whatever the liberals want to call rapid fire. Hell they would think 2 rounds a minute to be rapid fire.
Full auto and semi auto arent the same. Full auto is holding trigger as it goes off until u let go. Semi auto is just one pull, one bullet. Kinda like a bolt action, except the guns mechanism loads the next bullet fot u. AR 15 is only a semi auto, so its not an assault rifle. Shame lotta activists dont know the difference.
nellsb i know the difference between full auto and semi auto , and i agree that the terms are often being used in a wrong way, but what differnce does it make having a semi auto ar 15 or a full auto one if you want to kill alot of people fast ? not really that much to be honest
QuiCk well just so you know I think the mass shootings in that we've witnessed in the past are HORRIBLE. but there is a difference in those two words, you said it yourself, but the point I'm really trying to make is if you want to inform the public atleast be honest.
“Both Guns are Semi-Auotomatic” proceeds to show a Ar-15 & a bolt-action rifle
that is what you take away from this video?
@@jankarlsson8341 what I take from this is the lack of knowledge of firearms
@@jankarlsson8341 Yes because you can't judge something if you have zero knowledge on it. You need to do research before you critique something.
"Australia used to have a serious problem with gun violence"
Australia never had a gun problem before 1996, which is why we don't have one now
Arthur Morgan before 1996 we had around 600 deaths per year due to gun violence, which seems like a problem to me
Pickle that is very very low
@@pickle7499 bet those same 600 a year die by other means now.
@@fluffyunicorn3907 that's high compared to the us because Australia's population isn't that huge
redfaction 1278 600 out of 25 million is high?
"Semi-autimatic rapid fire weapon" 😂😂
Ik dragging the name out to sound scary😂
"Semi-Automatic rapid fire." Not going to comment on that not being a thing, just that one of those guns *is clearly a bolt action.*
@bongo155 They hardly had a gun problem before then. They never had a gun society. They were a penal colony and guns werennt something they were given many of.
@bongo155 Nice strawman bro. Ridiculing someone's lack of knowledge isn't some kind of pro-gun statement, and certainly not what you made it out to be.
@bongo155 Okay, please tell me where there was an attempt to obfuscate the issue, dickhead.
@bongo155
9 shootings since the gun ban.
How do you Australians measure "success"?
@bongo155
Australia seems to have a different definition of mass shootings then.
Darwin shooting happened in 2019. Do you not get out much or are you purposefully being stupid?
Then again, liberals like you get confused over your own gender, so...
"Both guns were semi-automatic." Proceeds to show bolt action rifle... great work guys.
Also, ignored the fact that having two rifles did not make him more dangerous, as only one could be used at a time and the reload rate with them is as fast or faster than switching between them and the extra weight of the second rifle took away from his ability to carry more ammunition.
The only advantage of more rifles is to switch for cold barrel to keep reliable accuracy.
morons
Owen Richmond //yes, obviously discredited the entire issue!//
They are calling out the wrong thing, they are not showing the statistical trend BEFORE 1996 because it's the same trend, meaning homicide was already dropping at that exact same rate and the firearm ban did NOTHING to change the already existing trend at all. They're also not showing that there was a spike in other types of violent crimes for years after passing the legislation before they leveled off again. They also don't mention that the U.S. saw a similar drop in gun homicides beginning in 1992 and continuing until around 2015 despite the only change being an increase in gun availability. Bloomberg is just doing what they've always done with firearms, trick people who can't look at raw data in to thinking they have a solid case when every study that takes all of the relevant factors into account can't show any causation between bans and lowering the homicide rate.
Owen Richmond he never said it discredited the entire argument
Fake news Bloomberg has to deactivate the like/dislike button.
A "genuine reason" includes sport shooting but not Self defense????? Smfh
Haswanth Thetraingod Self defence has _never_ been a reason to own a gun in Australia, not even before 1996.
MajorLeague What are you talking about? You cannot cite self defence as a reason to own a gun in Australia or, indeed, many other countries.
MajorLeague Don’t give me this virtue signalling self defence nonsense. You just like guns.
@MajorLeague Then stop resorting to emotional arguments.
@MajorLeague This is irrelevant. Self defence cannot be cited as a reason for owning guns in most countries. That is the basic fact. You are trying to conflate two different issues. Australia doesn't have a large population of self-righteous wankers running around waving guns and claiming to be defending themselves from a bunch of other gun waving wankers. It seems America's gun lobby hasn't figured this out. If you didn't have so many guns in the first place you wouldn't be running around talking about using them for self defence. The effectiveness of guns in the hands of civilians is incredibly dubious. In fact, it's mathematically unjustifiable.
The *HOMICIDE rate* has in fact GONE UP according to The *Australian Institute of Criminology* AIC, fact checking.
It’s on a slight increase now but it’s way less than 1996 and heaps less than years before that
@@bnb3394
Actually the homicide rate was lowest in1949. The current homicide rate is still near the upper half it has ever been in the last 100 years.
As a Kenyan, and after the 2013 Westgate massacre, I feel it should be made easier for ordinary citizens to own firearms. We have a lot of regulations preventing firearm ownership. The result is that most guns end up in the hands of criminals anyways.
It should be mandatory, for non felons to train and carry.
You’ll never be given a weapon as you might be able to change your nations future. They don’t want a paradigm shift just cos your life is miserable and helpless to change. Rebel
@@lnk3503 look at the us
@Cobbynob the only way you can ban the existence of firearms is to ban metalworking as a concept. Look at the Luty smg. There’s a shotgun that’s two metal pipes with a nail in one end acting as a firing pin, and you slam the two pipes together to set off the gun.
Ah, just ban ammo, then.
Wrong! Airguns have existed since the late 1700’s, and were capable of killing people. What did it shoot? Lead balls, and didn’t even need black powder.
I don't think that can work in developing nation... Criminal have easy acces to gun in unstable poorer nation without banning it outright...
Just don’t include how crimes with other weapons increased or anything.
Because they didn’t increase.
@@thethirdman225 yes they did buddy
@@abcdef-hg8ro Do you actually understand rates or do you believe everything the gun lobby tells you? Buddy. There was no compensatory increase in murder by other weapons simply because semi automatics were taken out of circulation. Only American gun owners are capable of believing this.
@@thethirdman225 who said I'm American I'm Canadian we just had our guns banned and its absolute bullshit Australia's violent crime soared look it up don't listen to everything CNN tells u
Elillan Raguparan You didn’t. You had semi-automatic military style rifles banned and it’s a two year buyback program. Australia’s crime rate did not spike in response to the NFA of 1996. Furthermore, any connection with the ban of semi-automatic military style rifles is non existent. Australians don’t use guns for self-defence, much less AR-15s. Never have, never will. Don’t believe everything the gun lobby tells you.
I love how they don't show what happened to all the other types of crime and violence
They only ever mention how it reduced gun violence because gun control is really about controlling the people.
I know. I really want to know, but they seam to ignore the crime statistics.
What does it matter the last 4 years or so Australia has had heaps of shootings
@@regularguy1512 the last mass shooting was in 1996…
@@hbake58 yeah but there's been plenty of random shootings
The best part about this is it fails to mention their crime rate went up after the buy back then stayed the same. 😂
No sir they do not you can't eliminate homicide it is impossible it's just that it is done with different weapons so yeah what's your point?
Adam Franasiak This upswing had no demonstrable connection to the gun buyback. Gun crime rates dropped at a greater rate than crime by other means, without a commensurate increase in those other means.
@@thethirdman225 That is incorrect, trying to ignore an inconvenient truth doesn't make it go away, gun homicides had been dropping before the introduction of the nfa and continued to do so after its introduction, however, plenty of unregistered firearms were dumped onto the black market when the laws were passed as they fetched far higher prices there than what the government was offering during its mandatory buy back, causing an influx of weapons into the hands of organised crime.
1ohtaf1 Who said the rate of homicides wasn’t falling and how does that change anything? The rest of your comment is an invention. You made it up.
@@thethirdman225 What people _don't_ say often tells you far more about them than what they do. What Bloomberg doesn't say is the fact that I just mentioned, and I don't blame them, it is a rather inconvenient truth. Not to mention your rather defensive attitude towards me for bringing up this fact speaks volumes in itself. The terrorist who was responsible for the Sydney siege used a shotgun that wasn't turned in during the buyback that he bought on the black market, the child terrorist who shot that police accountant dead outside the police station he worked in used a gun that was not turned in during the buyback but dumped on the black market, the spate of armed robberies of armoured trucks in recent memory, including the robbery that occurred in campsie used a semi auto rifle that wasn't turned in during the buyback, the domestic abuser who shot at police outside their police station after trying to murder his former partner and their children used a shotgun that wasn't turned in during the buyback. Any thinking person would be aware that these weapons are now in the hands of organised crime and the occasional terrorist who buys it off them.
the AR15 used in the port Arthur shooting was a gun that was handed in during an earlier amnesty in Melbourne 1987 , is was then registered to the Vic police SOG's and ended up with a gun dealer and somehow made it's way to port Arthur terry hill firearms.
it's estimated that over 300,000 unregistered guns remained in Australia after port Arthur and it might even be more today, now explain how banning semi auto's directly contributed to there being not even one crazy person left in Australian that could of got his hands on one of those unregistered guns and attempted a repeat of port Arthur.
Is it because the gun reform fixed the problem ? or there was never a problem in the first place.
the answer to why we haven't had an incident since port Arthur is because the Government got the gun reform it wanted so there was no need to plan another shooting
Evidence please.
@@thethirdman225 so you want evidence that people hide stuff they don’t want others to know about?
@@timbo853 No, I want evidence of all your claims, from the ownership of that AR-15 to the inference that the Port Arthur massacre was planned (by anyone other than Martin Bryant).
Except it wasn't an ar-15
It was an SKS
@@glaze_tpf9791 I think that was the Strathfield shooter.
"Semi-automatic, rapid fire..."
Semi-auto, yes
Rapid fire, however fast your finger is, and how you define "rapid"
How is $375 million dollars of additional government spending just to destroy property "strong political leadership"?
Because they took a stand. People always complain when governments don't stand for anything. Now you're complaining that they did. Damned if they did and damned if they didn't. Australian gun laws enjoy almost universal support.
TheThirdMan support? Sure, until the Australian government becomes tyrannical and its citizens cannot fight for their freedoms.
England used to be the model everyone referred to as to what you should do with gun control. Not anymore.
Australia’s gun deaths were already going down before the gun ban, then spiked immediately after the ban, then continued to go down at an equal but less stable rate.
Now, let’s compare American states to each other. Far better of a comparison than two countries on the opposite sides of the world. Vermont has very little gun control, yet is one of the safest per capita for gun deaths. California, by far the most controlling when it comes to guns, has the highest rate of gun death by far. What about Texas? Very little gun control there, and (when crimes committed by illegal aliens aren’t counted) is also an extremely safe state.
Gun control doesn’t work. The only people who think it does are those who don’t work either.
"England used to be the model everyone referred to as to what you should do with gun control. Not anymore. "
England still has less than a fifth the homicide rate of the US. London still has an incredibly low rate for a city its size.
"Australia’s gun deaths were already going down before the gun ban, then spiked immediately after the ban, then continued to go down at an equal but less stable rate. "
Lol no. The Australian homicide rate was stable for over a decade until the 2002 handgun laws, then it dropped sharply and stayed down.
"Now, let’s compare American states to each other."
For starters, EVERY US state has a higher homicide rate than Australia. Only 5 are less than DOUBLE the Australian rate.
"Vermont has very little gun control, yet is one of the safest per capita for gun deaths."
It's also sparsely populated. The largest city is just over 40,000, the rest are less than 20,000. Still, the gun death rate is nearly triple that of Hawaii, which has stricter controls.
"California, by far the most controlling when it comes to guns, has the highest rate of gun death by far."
Not even remotely close. Clearly you never bothered even looking this up. California has a rate of 4.6/100,000, LOWER than the national average of 5.3/100,000.
Now before you point out you were specifying gun deaths, you're still wildly wrong. The California rate is 7.9/100,000, significantly lower than the US average of 11.8/100,000.
"What about Texas? Very little gun control there, and (when crimes committed by illegal aliens aren’t counted) is also an extremely safe state. "
Lol. Do tell how you separate "crimes committed by illegal aliens" from the official stats. I'm interested :)
As for Texas, it's homicide rate is 5.0, again over quintuple that of Australia.
"Gun control doesn’t work."
You are wrong.
"The only people who think it doesn't are those who let the NRA do their thinking for them."
Fixed it for you :)
@@ratofvengence nice one
@@ratofvengence since you wanna talk about population than why not mentioned that australia only has 25 million people. That doesn't even come close to touching the u.s. 350 million. So of course aussie is gonna have less crime. You guys only look at mass shooting for the argument. What about wildlife? u.s. is much more dangerous than aussie. Sure aussie might be to most venomous country in the world but any snake can be euthanized by a swing of a shovel. Even with the 1000lbs invasive species like the camel and cape buffalos aren't gonna attack you unless you bother them. Aussie top predator is a dingo. I bet you there's more croc attacks in northern australia than there are gator attacks in southern america. Aussie is lucky that they don't have to deal with bears cougars or wolf packs.
Also australia is basically a big island without borders. You guys don't have to worry about crazy cartel groups operating their businesses next door to you. U.S. gang culture continues to be ridiculous. You wanna talk about gun laws. Look at the state of illinois. All the restrictions they have and there's still 40 to 50 shootings a week in chicago.
ratman there’s always exceptions THATS WHAT PEOPLE DONT REALISE
They called a Remington rapid fire weapon. 😂
A semi automatic Remington
The Rez Soilder 205 The bolt action
They didn’t do a buyback it was a mandatory buyback
YENIX that’s still a buyback😂
The government never owned them, so not a buyback, more like a mandatory acquisition.
Flaccidpenguin And many of those who sold their semi automatics to the government went out and bought legal guns to replace them. What’s your point?
Likes disabled hmmmmmm
When the government takes away the right to bear arms it’s the citizens duty to take away the governments right to govern
Reese Nelson Citizens should be able to own nuclear arms too, following your logic.
@@angus7278 ong all yall liberals for fuck sake
Been 22 years and since then and we are going fine now :)
Armed Bricks Horseshit.
@@angus7278 why not?
This aged well LOL
You mean the police brutality terror regime?
Indeed. One of these nations has less than 1/6th the homicide rate of the other.
Yeah it certainly did…
@@ratofvengence one of these nations is probably around 1/100th as authoritarian as the other. I’ll give you a hint which one is less tyrannical, it’s the one with the 2nd amendment. So much for keeping Australians safe SMH
this aged like milk in Australia.
Those who risk liberty for security deserve neither
Or, you could have both like Australia does :)
@@ratofvengence Australia doesn’t lol
@@Vincent12 Sure it does. Australia outranks the US in EVERY freedom index, and has less than a sixth the homicide rate. Didn't you know that?
@@ratofvengence as somebody who has lived in both country’s, that is not true. Wealth per household in the middle class is significantly lower in Australia than the US. While costs are higher. Money and INDIVIDUAL security is freedom
@@Vincent12 Nope. Australia outranks the US in Quality of Life as well as Social Mobility.
"both [guns] were semi automatic" *shows a bolt action rifle
Last year there was a firearms amnesty in Australia. Over 53 000 firearms and assorted weapons were handed in. There's still tens of thousands of guns illegally owned in Australia and gun violence is still prevalent amongst gangs in Melbourne and Sydney but they rarely kill more than 4 at a time so they're not considered massacres and are largely sidelined by the media. The crimerate was highest in 1999, after the ban so the only notable achievement of gun restrictions in Australia is no mass shootings. Guns have still been used in terrorist attacks though such as the Lindt Cafe siege in Sydney.
Criminal gangs still find a way to get guns on the black market. But the mentally deranged teenager doesn’t have the ability or funds to get them easily. Hence, some gun crime still happens but not on the same level as the USA, and no large scale school massacres like is common in the USA. People can find a way around laws, but it’s the ease of access that is the big problem in the States.
let's talk about how their rape and murder rate doubled after the gun ban
Let's talk about how you and Gazza make this crap up :)
Australia ain't america
The Czech Republic has a gun deaths rate similar to Australia's, and about in the middle for European nations, yet their gun laws are far less restrictive than those of Australia, Canada, and nearly all other European nations. They still need a license to have one, it's a "shall issue" license, meaning if the government has no reason to deny it, you get your license. You can also own basically any manual loading or semi-automatic weapon you want to, even military style weapons.
Well people like me a criminal will still have my guns. I cant wait for you to ban guns from these sheep. Makes my job easier.
If guns weren’t so pervasive in America, you wouldn’t need guns to protect yourself in the first place.
@@thethirdman225
As long as even ONE criminal or government agent (but I repeat myself) has a weapon, EVERY AMERICAN should have one of EQUAL caliber and capacity.,
@New York Val Well Val, there are two problems with that. First of all, most Americans don’t agree with you and secondly, whatever the constitution says, gun ownership does not give you the right to take the law into your own hands. If you’re going to pull a gun on someone, you’d better be right or the law will come down on you like a ton of bricks. Private guns, when used on other people, are far more likely to be used illegally than not. For every justified killing by a civilian with a gun, there are approximately 55 gun murders.
@@newyorkval1478 By the way Val, how are you going to take on the US government with a gun?
@@thethirdman225 Why ban guns when we could just ban murder! Problem solved.
Want to know why it worked? Because owning a gun there is a privilege, not a right...
2:09 Gun laws varied from state to state. the agreement standardized the laws nationally. semi-automatics, self loading rifles, and shotguns were banned.
They don't mention that between 1990-1996 the gun violence was already dropping at the same rate.
It wasn't.
You can’t compare 300 million people to the population of Australia you down under moron 😂 and also what about the massive increase in violent crime in Australia after 1996 when people can’t defend themselves criminals will take advantage of that.
@@joseph6677 "You can’t compare 300 million people to the population of Australia"
That's what rates are for kiddo. The US has over quintuple the Australian homicide rate. It's worse than Kazakhstan.
"also what about the massive increase in violent crime in Australia after 1996"
What massive increase?
Why are you contradicting yourself I’m saying you cannot compare those rates in every single country including Australia Right after “gun control”measures were put in place there has been a massive increase in crime and with Australia violent crime and house invasions went up because people couldn’t protect them selfs police are having less and less power to day too do stuff... people need to protect them Selfs. Right now the country I am in has a lot of gun control and a violent crime Went up due to people not being able to protect themselves our once most peaceful cities have turned into Murder locations But gun control works guys 😂
@@joseph6677 "Why are you contradicting yourself"
I'm not. You sound confused.
"I’m saying you cannot compare those rates in every single country including Australia"
Why?
"there has been a massive increase in crime and with Australia violent crime and house invasions went up"
What massive increase? You keep going on about it, but it doesn't exist.
"because people couldn’t protect them selfs"
It's never been legal to have guns for self defense here, so that didn't change.
"people need to protect them Selfs"
Like in the US? Where they have over quintuple our homicide rate? Like that?
"But gun control works guys"
Yes, it does. Total gun deaths dropped by more than half, total homicide rate nearly halved. I call that 'works'.
*angry Americans are typing*
Lithium Vids yeah because they get many things wrong.
So yeah it does anger us that they say false things.
Merica butt hurt
*ignorant non-americans with no rights typing*
@@jamesgonzales4224 Not having mass shootings on the norm = Not having rights??
nb45001 nope, no guns = no rights
Doesn't show the rise in crime rates and rape rates. Saving criminal lives.
"Semi-automatic, rapid fire gun"
*shows picture of a bolt action rifle*
@@frederik2881 Only the gun lobby cares about this.
Time to move to Switzerland.
islandbee immigration is really strict!
Hoàng Nguyên - I've never been to Switzerland. But it looks so nice and managed. Switzerland doesn't have these type of problems. What is your experience with Switzerland?
Haruka Inoue the opposite
EU is forcing us to adopt a new gun law through "schengen" agreements, and it’s very restrictive. And guess what ? Switzerland isn’t a member of this crappy union. We can thank our politicians, doing everything to please the EU...
That's false information. We do have compulsory military service but you can deny it and do an alternative service for which you get compensated equally. If you choose to do military service you do not have to keep your gun at home and are not allowed to take any munition home. If you want to keep your gun after your service you have to apply for a gun license.
Australian guns get destroyed*
Americans: *cries in school massacres*
Yeah we were laughing watching Australians getting herded into hotels, houses and camps against their will. Or being beaten by police for sitting in an open park. All cause a little cold. See how easy it was for them to walk all over you 😆. Didn't happen here. I'll give you a guess why
@@yodaddy82daddy70joe here would gladly lick the police's boots and let them beat him up just for being outside because of some cold
@@yodaddy82daddy70 Guess who watches far right media without engaging their brain lol...
NRA goway. Most street violence is done with handguns, and the ones where rifles ARE guns used in mass shootings, it's usually in schools, and we need to give those people help instead of banning guns.
XX LMBN agreed
I like how they don’t talk anything about the crime rates like Home invasion.
Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.
I think you got those backwards.
Paul Guy I do. Damn booze. Thanks man.
Here's the thing, the Australian government bought back 640,000 guns. There are 300 million guns in the US, even if you took 99% away there'd still be 1,000,000 guns...
So just get rid of the 300 million guns.
It is not easy to get rid of guns.
Not to mention the additional illegal guns that would flow into the country in the event of a ban.
Piggonboy How do you propose 300,000,000 guns get gotten rid of? Serious question here, really. And why? Considering the number of gun-related homicides is 9000/yr compared to 300,000,000 firearms, it's literally a statistical anomaly that people get murdered by firearms. 0.003% is in the noise, an accounting error. Then, take into account that between 500,000 and 3,000,000 defensive firearms uses per year, and there really isn't a compelling argument to "get rid of" 300,000,000 firearms. So, I want 1) a compelling argument, 2)your solution and how you would implement it.
Piggonboy How do you propose we get rid of 300 million guns?
the like and dislike button being disabled says all i need to know. I'm not wasting brain cells on this video.
Rykov, Lenin’s successor in the Council of Soviet Commissars:
“It is our duty to inculcate in the minds of nations the
theories of international friendship, pacifism, &
disarmament, encouraging their resistance to military
appropriations & training, without ever relaxing our own
efforts in building our military equipment.”
Sure there safe, secure, and under control just the way every government likes it.
💯
England: what is a gun?
Englands gun ownership is higher than many other European nations
Traditionalist Cunt nope it’s either Switzerland Finland or Norway
I didn't say it had the highest, but it's not the lowest in Europe.
thats really because of all the geezers that have hunting shotguns in tiny English villages
VisioningHail yeah we are only restricted to some guns
Yeah Covid showed Aussie police force is more militarised than ever
Our citizens survived……… and those who were unwell, they were treated in UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE
I love how the media demonizes guns by adding 'rapid fire' to fucking everything.
also Martin Bryant used an L1A1 SLR Battle Rifle. Not dad's 308.
"Semi automatic rapid fire"
America is the best What’s wrong with saying that?
"Both guns used were semi-automatic, RaPid FIre WEapoNs" *shows a bolt action rifle* lmfao
As an Australian.
This video is a lie:
Which bits did you disagree with?
Point is, . . . it worked!
It made no material difference.
@@frankwoods4179
Please explain?
@@Anth1963 He can't. He'll deny the stats found at the Australian Bureau of Statistics, he'll deny the research because it doesn't fit his preconceptions and conspiracies. Let me put it this way; he thinks there's a conspiracy about Port Arthur. It's low hanging fruit here...
It worked so well that this video disengaged like and dislikes. 😂
I'd like to thank drugs for winning the war on drugs.
I'd like to thank poverty for winning the war on poverty.
I'd like to thank guns for winning the war on guns.
:D
Legally reported this to RUclips for infringement and hate speech.
"Protect my life over your guns"
Lady, if someone murdered you, then that someone will either have a life or death sentence depending on what state you live in.
I'm sure she'd be relieved to know that when she's dead.
Eneco I don't get the irony.
Timothy Jacobs because they didnt protect her life, just punished the criminal
(btw i dont support gun control)
Eneco please tell me you're joking
Timothy Jacobs what
Brilliant propaganda piece by Bloomberg... Mind not changed.
Makes me proud to be an Australian.
Actually you should be ashamed
Guy The GalaXII why?
@@dassnek4728 I’m Australian and I agree with you. 99.999% of our population are completely delusional.
@@airwolfcentral169 yeah and o.oo1% are brain dead idiots..you are 1 of em !
@@Nobody0512 you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts numb skull.
They talk a lot about gun-related homicides, what about homicides in general?
Total homicide rate nearly halved. It's 1/6th the US rate.
Actually, if you factor out black-on-black killings in the inner cities, the USA has a very low rate. If you are not a black person in the inner city, you are safer in the USA than in most countries.
The important question is, what do we do to decrease black-on-black killings in the inner cities? Will the gangs voluntarily give up their guns if gun ownership is outlawed?
Instead of pointing fingers, we need answers.
Wow, data skew much? This is a perfect example of the combination of willful ignorance and disingenuous reporting common among anti-gunners.
Australia doesn't have what we have in the USA, the 2nd Ammendment, which protects us from these pancies.
Is that why you're dying so often. You can't out smart a pansy. So you need a firearm. You are so weak.
Evan Noakes Sorry to break the news to you Evan, but you are a pansy.
incorrect go learn where the constitution came from (same place AUS's did english bill of rights 1689)
Evan Anderson thanks for the information Mr. Pansy. By the way, did your history book taught you the Australia was built by criminals that were expatriated from their country for being criminals.
naw little snowflake doesn't like where his constituition came from how sweet...
270 million cars in america, 40,000 dead each year. 393 million guns in america 32,000 dead per year. so ummmm.
"270 million cars in america, 3000 dead each day."
Lol no :D
@@ratofvengence Google it
@@mikeg5616 So you can't substantiate your claim. Okay. I looked, you are massively wrong :)
@@ratofvengence ok im sorry I was looking at all around the world. in america it is around 100 per day. hope you dont mind I change my comment.
@@mikeg5616 That's fair, and thank you for admitting it. But how does that point now work? To reduce the death toll on the road, restrictions and regulations were brought in. It worked, thousands less deaths every year. But apply the same logic to guns? People lose their minds...
Bloomberg, Please tell me, what is a semi-automatic rapid-fire weapon?
Now we have gang strongholds in NSW with full auto ak 47s and I’m sitting here in Brisbane with a bolt action 22
The gun laws in Australia are tough but fair. If you want a firearm for sporting purposes you can have one. America shouldn't look at us, we don't have a 2nd Amendment, it's very different. I miss my pump-action though.
Forcibly confiscating millions of firearms, even when you compensate the owners for it, is definitely not fair. The government has no right to steal or destroy your property, but no one in Australia stood up to stop them. Now you're going to have to live with the consequences of a mostly unarmed populace, and what is turning into an authoritarian regime.
I miss my m16 and my m1 garand but at lest lever actions weren’t banned but we Australians should be allowed to protect ourselves from criminals with guns but our government would rather have us dead then let us protect ourselves. Also australia bans toy guns like airsoft and gel blasters they say that they are more dangerous then real guns and classify water gel balls as real ammunition what has this country come to
@@tacticalbacon7386I would suggest figuring stuff out before it gets to the point where the government steps in and takes away the toys without a buyback, I hope people in other countries can. Because I love living in Australia (hate the land prices though lol)
33,000 gun deaths. Majority suicide, 14,000 from homicide, 71 deaths from "mass shootings"
Yes, disgustingly high figures.
@@ratofvengence very true. But remember, USA is 14x the population of Australia. overall violent crime increased immediately after the ban and has been steady since. Similar to here in the UK.
@@user-ei7ed6zy9k "But remember, USA is 14x the population of Australia."
Yes, that's why rates are very useful. The USA, with all those guns for 'protection', has over quintuple the homicide rate of the UK or Australia.
"overall violent crime increased immediately after the ban and has been steady since."
Not remotely true. Firstly, guns aren't banned in Australia. Secondly, the trend of rising violent crime was established several years before the 1997 gun laws, and did not get worse. After the 2002 changes to handgun laws, the rate of violent crime and gun crime dropped. The total homicide rate nearly halved, total gun deaths more than halved.
@@ratofvengence I think where you're missing the point is that overall violent has been dropping in USA and Australia since the early 90's. Gun are banned in the UK but it's also the knife crime, acid attack and burglary capital of the world. Even this senior Australian political (something like the foreign secretary) says Australia's gun control will not work in America cos it's completely different.
Global homicide rate average is 6.8
USA is 4.9
Australia 1.8
USA has tried federal gun control in 1994-2004 which did not impact the homicide rate.
USA handed that power to individual states. Those states with the most strict gun laws have the highest homicide rates and those with the least gun laws have the least homicide rates. More people die from hammers than guns, more people die from cars than guns. You can't ban tool boxes and cars.
@@user-ei7ed6zy9k Dude, you have a whole bunch of wrong information there...
"overall violent has been dropping in USA and Australia since the early 90's."
Yes, gun violence in the USA was even worse than it is now. It dropped in the late 90's at the same time as the household gun ownership rate dropped. Oh, violent crime in the US has been rising since 2014 according to the FBI stats.
"Australia's gun control will not work in America cos it's completely different."
Doing exactly the same thing, no it wouldn't. That doesn't mean none of it will.
"USA is 4.9"
Nope, that was 2015, in 2016 it had risen to 5.35/100,000.
"Australia 1.8"
Nope, 0.98/100,000.
"USA has tried federal gun control in 1994-2004 which did not impact the homicide rate."
Of course it didn;t because it wasn't remotely done properly. It was a ban on the purchase of certain new semiautomatic rifles. That's it. It didn't have ANYTHING to do with handguns, which are the firearm most used in crime.
"Those states with the most strict gun laws have the highest homicide rates and those with the least gun laws have the least homicide rates."
Not that simple. For example, St Louis has lax gun laws, and over double the homicide rate of Chicago. Then there's the fact that most guns in those states simply come from out of state where the gun laws are slacker.
"More people die from hammers than guns"
Not even close, over 70% of all homicides in the US are shootings.
"more people die from cars than guns"
There's a real big difference between car accidents and murders...
Keep your buy back money I'll keep my freedom .
keep ur mass shootings in ur country too, alright
Alex You The worst thing is that there are many other people like you who think the United States is only filled with bloodthirsty killers.
Give me single reason why America is better than Australia LOL. Countries a mess, homicide rates are higher than african countries and middle eastern as well.
Alex You 14000 yearly homicides in a population of over 350 million people. Not even the third country in the world with the most mass shootings if you account for population. 500,00-1,0000 defensive gun uses each year. Truth hurts, doesn’t it?
Im here after watching a few videos of australians getting arrested for not wearing a mask. I wonder how they'll fight back
We have these things called ELECTIONS that are respected! Give it a try as it seems to work for the rest of the developed world. BTW Total Covid19 deaths Australia 1 256. USA 700 924. Gee how did that happen?
@@howabout8611 you just blew my mind. Wow. They really have only had 1,700 covid deaths.
Hello there, friend!
Scrolling through the comments for shits and grins, I see?
Carry on, my friend. Carry on.
Should have just sold those guns to Americans they wouldn't have lost all that money.
the .308 isn't semi-automatic its bolt action. meaning between each shot you have to manually load another round
into the chamber and fire
Ar-10 308 caliber platform.
Amazing to see that many lies package such a short video. Shooting had been declining for years in Australia, and the 1996 gun ban had no effect on that rate of decline. Notably, the number of guns in Australia is actually higher now than it was in 1995 due to people's normal levels acquisition over these years. See you might say have a more guns as help them. And by the way there have been four mass shootings in Australia since 1996. Australian gun control has done absolutely nothing to make them safer, all it's done is make people sitting ducks to home invasion.
This aged horribly… Australia is now a police state
Rubbish. Australia STILL outranks the US in EVERY freedom index :)
😭😭😭 I live here that’s so true
Why did they destroy all those guns?They could've melted them down and made them into something useful.
*Shows picture of bolt action rifle*
"Both guns were semi-automatic, rapid fire weapons"
Interesting that Bloomberg redefine "Mass Shooting" to meet their political objectives.
That allows them to conveniently ignore the mass shootings that were not prevented by Australia's gun grab, such as those in:
Richmond, Tasmania on 28 June 1997.
Adelaide (Wright St), Australia on 8 October 1999.
Monash University, Melbourne on 21 October 2002.
Hunter Valley, New South Wales on 20 March 2005.
Hectorville, South Australia on 29 April 2011.
Lockhart, New South Wales on 9 September 2014.
Wedderburn, Victoria on 23 October 2014.
Sydney, New South Wales on 15-16 December 2014.
Parramatta, New South Wales on 2 October 2015.
Port Lincoln, South Australia on 4 January 2016.
Brighton, Victoria on 5 June 2017.
Osmington, Western Australia on 11 May 2018.
West Pennant Hills, New South Wales on 5 July 2018.
Darwin, Northern Territory on 4 June 2019.
The Melbourne nightclub shooting on 14 April 2019.
"But they weren't on the same scale as Port Arthur" claim the anti-gun lobby.
Well neither was anything in the preceding 60 years
Thank you
A mass shooting is 4 or more people.
“ They that give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. “
- Benjamin Franklin
Pffft. Australia outranks the USA in nearly every freedom index, AND has less than a quarter the homicide rate of the US. Freedom AND safety.
ratman - But you do agree that you have hate speech laws and no freedom of speech. You also agree that your freedom to own guns has been severely restricted? You Aussies need to do what we did centuries ago which is to burn your knee pads, and overthrow that oppressive monarchy that rules you from behind the scenes. Canada needs to do the same.
@@joegambino9792 "But you do agree that you have hate speech laws and no freedom of speech."
Two separate questions.
"You also agree that your freedom to own guns has been severely restricted?"
Guns aren't a freedom, that's where you lot have gotten it tragically wrong. It's a responsibility. That's why the US has a homicide rate worse than Iran, Vietnam and Kazakhstan.
"overthrow that oppressive monarchy that rules you from behind the scenes."
Well, at least you have made it clear you have no understanding of what a constitutional monarchy is. Incidentally, we aren't oppressed. Didn't I mention we outrank the USA in EVERY freedom index? You seem to have forgotten.
@@ratofvengence Freedom index? Mfer australia banned airsoft and tried to ban nerf guns.
Freedom index deranked the US not according to any actual conceivable reason or statistic, but purely because of trumps presidency. Im not even kidding. They litteraly deranked the country just because they didnt like the politician.
@@ratofvengence if you can’t speak hatefully you don’t have the freedom to speak. If you have the ability to use your facilities of reason it becomes clear that this only makes total sense. Owning a firearm is a right as well as a responsibility as are all rights! You also seem to have inherited this strange premise that responsibility and rights are mutually exclusive which is completely false! With the rights to which your fundamentally entitled by virtue of your existence, comes the obligation and responsibility to respect other people’s rights. If you can’t do this safely then society won’t and doesn’t have respect for your rights. This is the very reason why no one makes a 2nd amendment carry argument for a 4 year old.
This aged like milk.
Not really. We still have less than a sixth the US homicide rate, and outrank it in EVERY freedom index.
@Exculpatory Shōgun Wow, you sure picked a lot of posts to cry in kiddo 🤣🤣
I live in America. I feel as though that's important to what I have to say. Australia does not have border countries. Australia does not have the enemies we have. And unlike Australia our right to bear arms protects us from our government and those who wish to do us harm. You are defenseless. Your government can take from you whatever they so choose.
And now they are taking whatever they want.
“Worst single-person mass shooting in global history” *cough cough* Virginia Tech
Cough "At the time." Port Arthur massacre 1996. Virginia Tech 11 years later.
Dude, the part where they dumped all the rifels was really sad....
In Australia a pump/slide shotgun is illegal. Is a firearms registry going to stop a criminal willing to die to murder innocent people going to help?
How did RUclips take me from a john stossel video to this?
it thought you mightve overdosed on facts so it brought you some propaganda instead.
Gun homicides were already dropping before the gun confiscation. There are at least two problems with this. First, homicide rates have been in decline throughout western Europe, Canada, and the United States since the early 1990's. The same trend was also occurring in Australia. So gun confiscation had nothing to do with dropping homicide rates. Second homicides were already so unusual in Australia even before the 1996 gun confiscation that it had no real effect on the homicide rate.Homicide rates hit a 51 year low in the US even as many states relaxed gun laws and expanded concealed carry, even allowing open carry.Suicide rates in Australia are up reaching a 10 year high. So much for gun control. Australian gun ownership is almost back up to the same level as before confiscation and the murder rate is still declining. So in the US there are more armed citizens and less crime. The dire predictions when Florida and other states relaxed concealed carry laws did not result in blood in the streets or shootouts at every traffic crash. Crime went down. There are between 500,000 and 2,000,000 defensive uses of guns in the US every year. The exact number is hard to determine due to most people not reporting incidents to police (perhaps because some states with strict gun control laws make them unwilling to call police). Great Britain which is also used as a shining example of gun control has serious crime problems. One in four Brits are victims of violent crime (per the British Home Office). Home invasions and robberies are common. You can be jailed by police or sued by a criminal if you injure them to badly when they attack you. So why would we want British or Canadian style gun laws?
Why? Because instead of gun crime (which was never a real problem in GB when it comes to legal gun owners), GB switched to knife crimes. Hence, GB also banned knives. Surprisingly, despite of said ban, knife crime in GB is higher than ever.
Find the error...!
Also to point out semi auto guns are banned just heavily retricted but you can still own one
This video has so many factual errors.
Like?
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