Ex-Mormon Acknowledges Anti-Mormon Lies
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10 ACTUAL Anti-Mormon Lies + 10 Truths Incorrectly Labeled as "Anti-Mormon Lies"
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the horns thing just sounds like a repurposed anti-jewish lie.
Fun fact, it even comes from a mistranslation originally. At one point Moses is described as having a ray of light coming from his face. But the word for ray of light in Hebrew is also similar to the word for horns. And an old text translated it that way
So the idea of Jews having horns came from that old mistranslation
That and the “through the sheet” one.
@@BlackCover95How does that even work? I'm assuming scissors and circular-cutting would need to be involved.
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Through a hole in the sheet.
@@mylesmarkson1686 The Handmaid's Tale (the tv series) had a scene with that.
The book that was the basis for the series was written in 1985, and the author Margaret Atwood used practices of real-life religions as source material.
So at least in 1985 there were folks doing the rumpy-pumpy as described. With the lights off. And everyone with eyes closed.
Great video :) paying my tithe to the algorithm in comment form :)
You’re the best ♥️
sad these ones aren't tax deductible
We were told that the JS became a Freemason to "learn" the rituals because they were originally "stolen" from Solomon's temple centuries ago. In other words the "Saints" had the original patent on those. I went through in Temple back in 1976 or so, and yes I remember the "blood oaths". Funny how one will accept things as fact no matter how ridiculous.
What caused you to realize its falsehood?
Thanks so much Lex! This was 1 of your best videos ever. I had heard pretty much all the lies and truths growing up. You really nailed it. I went in the Temple for the first time in 1981. Just before I went into the MTC to serve my mission. The blood oaths did freak me out. It's like Charles Manson had hijacked the ceremony. (You younger people can google him if you don't know who I'm talking about.) ......If I had any guts I would have walked out and passed on the mission. Back than it was like military service. It was expected of you, whether you believed it or not. I can't believe how naive and trusting we were back than. I'm glad the current young generation asks the questions we were afraid to.
So true. I went through the late 70's. I wanted to walk out, but the pressure was on to serve the mission. I looked around at all the people I trusted and thought it must be right even though I felt it was a cult. Then, I was told you get use to it after a while the more you go. Kind of like a frog in water analogy?
because a stone in a hat is way less ridiculous than a rock in a hat.... though I did always wonder (whilst growing up) why all my friends had belly buttons and I didn't...
😂😂😂
@@ExmoLexWhy do Mormons say that they are the church that Jesus started because according to the Bible that's a lie
Good coverage on this topic. Did you know the general Relief Society Presidency doesn't receive a stipend, while the male general authority leadership does (about $120,000 per year). This is what some would call a payment, but they call it a stipend. Also, not talked often is why Joseph Smith Jr. was really in jail prior to being killed at Carthage. It wasn't for protection against a mob, but because he ordered a competitor's printing press destroyed for printing negative things about the Mormons Joseph didn't agree with. Again, thanks for the video!.
Of course they don't pay the woman. She might get uppity and ask to be treated nicely by her husband.
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They are anti mormon lies they don't get paid because you didn't learn the truth while you were a latterday saint we are not Mormons we are latterday saints what you call truths are all lies
They do not pay the men anything the only money they handle a small amount to pay for a relief society yearly dinner or Xmas breakup or towards youth activities the men done get any money at all for themselves try penticostals they get paid and leaders own mansions but what they do is their business
The allowance is also to help a member who is sick and out of workthe priesthood leaders are not clergy the all go out to work every day. The same as a person who doesn't go to church
The not dancing one was pretty funny since I clearly remember attending several church sponsored dances in the ward building when I was a teenager. It's some of the good memories I had when I was a member. Since there are some conservative Christian branches that do ban dancing, like Anabaptists, I can see why that one seems believable to some people. But no belly button?? And horns? 😂😂
I can also confirm that you can find true happiness after leaving the church. One of the best decisions of my life. 😊
I didn't realize it would mark my post as edited if I fixed a typo. Oh well...
When I told my sister I was finally finding true happiness. She told me I was just deceived by the devil and I wasn't really happy. What does slap in the face.
@@janicewinsor4793 Sorry to hear that. I have had similar experiences. It's rough. I think one lingering trauma I still have because of this belief that those who leave the church cannot be happy is that when I am having struggles, I am always hesitant to tell my Mormon family members lest it be seen as some sort of judgement for leaving the church. It's gotten better over the years and I have a better relationship with my parents than when I first left, but I still have those doubts because of years of having my experiences and feelings being invalidated.
Mormons used to have belly buttons but they disappeared and evolved into horns. That's why they wear those baker caps in the temple.
In speaking with Mormon friends I heard about 'The Three Nephites' who wonder about America doing good deeds. There were other stories too. Perhaps that could be a topic of one of your videos.
Mormons can't dance? I've been to a lot of Mormon dances, and I'm almost inclined to agree with this one, LOL!
Mormons can dance. Presbyterians can too, but you don’t want them to.
One of the very small things that helped me leave the church was while serving as a missionary, seeing people of all different backgrounds, religions, non-religious who were just as happy as anyone I met in the church.
I at the time was struggling to come to terms with the fact that I was gay, and meeting just normal, average gay people, living their lives being happy, really helped me realize the church didn't have a monopoly on happiness. There was one gay couple who was really nice to us, and would invite us over and feed us despite having no interest in what we were teaching. I wish I could thank those guys. They'll never know what that did for me.
I think they may have had an idea.
Yeah, I think they might have known. And, you never know, they may well be reading your comment as we speak. So maybe you did just thank them 😊 ♥️♥️♥️♥️
what did satan say to Eve in the garden? Eat and you can become like Gods. What did Joseph Smith say. Follow me and you can become like Gods.....
I'd like to comment about not worshiping. Joseph Smith, I won't make a determination but you can consider this, in the Journal of Discourses, Brigham Young said that no one gets into the celestial kingdom without the permission of Joseph Smith. He said similar things on other occasions in different formats. And church members are required to stand when they sing the song " praise to the man" now singing hymns in church is certainly a form of worship. So maybe you could comment on my point of view. And as far as calling Joseph Smith a. Martyr it isn't true in the book Mormon doctrine. Bruce McConkie specifically says that a martyred voluntarily gives their life for their cause, it doesn't take much research to see that. Joseph Smith had a gun and shot and killed two people before he was killed by the mob. So he most definitely did not go voluntarily. He died in a gun fight but the missionaries withhold this type of information from investigators and continue to say he was a martyr.
Yes! And so much more which is not a lie or folklore
I've lived in maybe 10 different wards and was never required, or even asked, to stand for that song. I believe you when you say you were required or know people that were, but it's not a church mandate that people stand for that song. Not that it really matters, they still sing "praise to the man" which seems pretty close to "worship Joseph Smith"
@@hardycherry2801 they were requiring it back in the late 1970s and I don't know if the policy has been changed since then. I'm done with that outfit
@GuyRegular - Brigham Young didn't say that Joseph Smith gives permission to be in the Celestial Kingdom. I have also heard people say that Brigham Young said salvation is through Joseph Smith. Neither of these are true. If you read the Journal of Discourses you can see what Brigham Young actually said about Joseph Smith on these topics. It is Jesus Christ that is the judge and Jesus Christ only who offers salvation. Also, I've never been in a church meeting where anyone stood when singing Praise to the Man so it's definitely not a requirement. You might want to do your own research instead of repeating lies you have heard.
@@micheleh3851 I have done my own research. I own all 26 volumes of the journal of discourses. I own a copy of the original book of commandments. I have seven volumes of the history of the church. I have Mormon doctrine. I have the book of Mormon. I have the original 1830 book of Mormon
I have the doctrine and covenants. I've done several years of research and I have a report on the deception the church uses the lies they tell and how they whitewash their history. In a mass of other historical documents written by church leaders.
I had heard the Joseph was a polygamist before i went on my misson and I asked my parents if that was true. When they said that it was, I asked why they didn't show it in the "Prohpet of the Restoration" Joseph Smith movie. that one stumped them.
I always wondered that as well. Good PR move, but so shady.
there is real joy outside religion. I was told something similar in baptist theology.
I was a member for over 60 years- some of these hysterical and some are horrible because the church covered them up from the members my WHOLE lifetime-hence why I left and am still hurt and angry!!
PS: it was a rock/ stone either way crazy magical shitshow 😢
Hey Lex, I relate to this experience as an ex-Muslim. As many flaws as there are in that faith, some of the things Islam gets accused of are totally insane and bigoted.
The one that upsets me the most is Taqiyya. This is a concept that means if a Muslim lives in an environment where Islam is criminalized or persecuted, a Muslim can publicly renounce their religion and worship idols, and Allah won't be upset with them for it. It is a totally reasonable concept, but Islamophobes claim it means that Muslims are "allowed to lie to non-Muslims for personal gain or conversion."
It seems Mormons and ex-Mormons deal wirh similar accusations by ignorant folks. Thanks for this video!
As a historical example of Taqiyya, the Spanish Inquisition prohibited being anything other than a Catholic. So, many Muslims and Jews hid their true beliefs and publicly acted Christian to stay alive.
When I was little the kids in my neighborhood would look for my horns😂
😅😅😅
When I was in high school....way back in the 1970's, our high school choir (from Springville, UT) went to Denver for a choir get together. We were housed in private homes that volunteered for us to stay there. One of the first questions I received was if Mormons could eat ham?1? The second question was if I was in a cult?1? The third question was about horns. Having grown up in happy valley, I had no idea what they were talking about! A cult? Why would they think that! Ham, horns? What the hell? I should have listened and learned way back then. BTW, I really enjoy your channel!
It's crazy when you grow up in a cult and hear these things and know they are just anti-lies. until you actually start to dig into the history and find out they were true and the church was just hiding/ lying.
On my mission another missionary vehemently protested that the rock in the hat was real and not “Anti” had to show him the (very brief and watered down) part of the Saints book where it talks about it.
The one about belly button made me actually laugh! So cute! I knew the other lies and most of the truths. Great job doing that video. I absolutely love your content. When I was still a member, some of my non-Mormon friends sometimes asked me about the church and as a joke I sometimes told them what I thought were obvious and funny lies. I was later shocked to hear that some of them believed the stuff. BTW: the non-dancing may come from being confused with the Seventh Day Adventists.
Seventh Day Adventists can’t dance?? So sad!
On the "joy outside of the gospel topic". When one can no longer attend church due to discrepancies of truth, it causes a lot of sadness, anger, loss, and so many other emotions. This took me about 6-9 months to overcome. But I can tell you that since leaving I have felt a more true joy than I EVER had in the church. I am far more happy, and I even like/love people more. The LDS church has a lot of great people (and some not-so-great too) but they don't have the monopoly on joy, happiness, or even deity. Covid was the genesis to me leaving. It was SO nice to NOT have to attend church and do all the church things every week. It was a wake up call to our family!
Interesting. I hadn't heard most of these. (TBM member, left 18 years ago.) Evangelicals are the source of many of the anti-mormon lies. I was shocked at how easily LDS leaders lie once I opened myself to see all available information.
I can remember how angry I was when i learned that they did in fact get paid it was after i had left church.
This was a heavy weight on my shelf!!!
Honest question: Why? Most of them are professionals: doctors, lawyers, business people, etc. They still have living expenses, and they could likely make more money by not being an apostle.
I view this the same as a local politician making money. Sure, we could take away their salaries to remove that bias/influence, but then you make the position only available to someone extremely wealthy who can afford to not make a salary (or to someone otherwise poor that is sponsored to make decisions that represent the sponsors). So in that case we choose either “the right person for the job” or “the only wealthy dude with time on his hands.”
Most of the Brethren are independently wealthy, but are provided a very small stipend if needed. Pastors of other churches actually get paid large sums. You have ignored D Michael Quinn's careful study which showed that, unlike other churches, LDS leaders are not on the take. They simply never enrich themselves. Moreover, Latter-day Saints donate more per capita to charity than any other religion.
@@BobSmith-lb9nc VERY SMALL STIPEND?? 6 figures is small? Not to mention their credit lines? Ok? You keep telling yourself that…
@aaronchamberlain4698 Because we as children were told these MEN OF GOD WERE NOT PAID THEY WERE SERVING THE LORD AND GAVE THEIR TIME AND TALENTS FOR BUILDING UP THE KINDGOM , They are liars ! If they are getting paid then ALL churches should be taxed !! This is not a church it's a corporation a very rich corporation
I testify that I had a belly button as a Mormon and still have one as an ex-Mormon. 😂
That was very helpful. Thank you for having the courage to tell it like it is. People (especially Mormons) need to hear the truth.
The legitimate lies are laughable (like horns? Really?!). The truths, purported as lies that I used to believe, are just unfortunate and ugly.
Great segment, keep talking TRUTH! No belly button .. . . Cookoo Birds, thanks for the laughs Lexi.
Good post, to the point quickly, informative. Thank you Lexi
You hit a lot of good ones here. I did go through the LDS temple back when there were blood oaths. It was pretty weird along with all the ways to take lives for breaking temple covenants. I did go to the Manti temple once. It was unique in that they still had live performances of the whole temple endowment. Most other temples were using the film.
As mormons change with politics- from scriptures, opinions, tithes, rules, laws, etc etc how can one say what is a lie now compared to mormons 50 years ago? Watch spring 2024 conference come up with another new ball game 😅
If being Mormon gave you horns I would consider rejoining the church…
Joseph Smith seems to have a place in Mormonism similar to what Mary has in Catholicism: a highly revered individual, almost worshipped, sometimes actually worshipped. Some people apparently need to prostrate themselves before other human beings, or at least revere them uncritically.
Veneration of the mother of Jesus is not the same as veneration of Joseph Smith! I mean, there's a valid distinction there, even if you are not Christian or religious yourself.
I had a Mormon friend in HS, he and his friends definitely liked to dance. Would on occasion take over the dance floor. They were wild!
😂 The horns thing might partly be because of the old J Golden Kimball (the "swearing apostle") story my dad loved. The way I was told it, in the early days of the church, there were Mormons teaching and doing a group baptism on one side of the river and a mob formed on the other side of the river to attack them. It was disturbing the meeting, so J Golden went to the edge of the river and yelled over to please quiet down until the meeting was over and then the mob could do what they thought they needed to. "But remember, us Mormons have horns. You cross that stream, and we'll gore the hell right out of you." The mob left.
When I was in grade school our teacher at church told us of a young girl that believed that there would be orgi in the temple when she got married. And although this scared her, she went anyway. This of course shocked everybody in class. She then went on to say how faithful this girl was to do it, even though she was scared. Before she told us that no such thing goes on there. I believe she was trying to head off any rumors. I don't remember how old I was but I think I was pretty young. It had the opposite effect on me than they desired, I'll tell you that. Because after that, I never did anything when I didn't know exactly what would be going on. Anytime they wouldn't tell me I said nope, I won't do that. So if I'd stayed in the church, I are probably never would have gotten married in the temple.
I served my mission in Italy in the 1970s and we had a lot of problems with getting new converts to stop worshiping saints such as Saint Christopher Mary there are hundreds. Sometimes they would have pictures in their home of a saint and they would worship that Saint by burning a candle in front of the picture the same as they would in the church they just did it at home as well. I heard stories I never saw it but I heard stories that sometimes people would get converted and some really old grandmother would take away the picture of the saints or the pope and the missionaries would return two or three months later doing home teaching and they placed a picture of Joseph Smith and burned candles in front of that. Catholics wouldn't say that Saint Patrick was a deity but they definitely worshiped Saint Patrick and hundreds of other saints. So technically to say we as Mormons don't worship Joseph Smith because we don't treat him as a deity well if you use the Catholic version of worship Mormons worship Joseph Smith and if you have to pass by Joseph Smith to get into the celestial Kingdom then you could say that Joseph Smith is a deity and old fundamentalist had Joseph as the holy ghost in the Trinity which would make him a god.
So I respectfully disagree.
If having a picture of a saint on a wall was considered worshiping that Saint in Italy 50 years ago having a picture of Rusty Nelson on The Wall is worshiping the current prophet.
When I was still a practicing member I was appalled by people putting up pictures of the first presidency in their house it felt like we were following apostate traditions of the Catholic Church.
Worship and veneration/ adoration are two different things. One is showing respect and reverence, one is submitting oneself to. You think you understand, but you don’t. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. Go actually learn and stop making assumptions please.
Also Catholic and Eastern Orthodox are the OG churches so uh, who’s the apostate?
@@mikelima7269 you can split hairs between the supposed difference between veneration and worship.
The fact that the Old testament says not have any other gods before me the Catholics had to invent a new word for the worship they were doing with their saint.
These little old ladies that go to Mass daily and give change and light candles to a statue of a dead saint are worshiping that saint.
If you really did a deep dive into the history of the early Christian Church you would realize that the Eastern Orthodox Church is an apostate version of Catholicism and Catholicism is not the original Christian church but a break off group that grew faster than other groups.
You are the one that needs to do more research.
@@plporter splitting hairs, no, it’s a critical distinction. You can “I am rubber you are glue” me all day long like a child, or you can learn some actual facts about “the apostasy.” Which is a laughable projection in and of itself.
@@mikelima7269 "submitting oneself to" is Christian speak for "Born Again" which is protectant apostacy doctrine, which is apostate for what you consider the "OG" Christian Church. I pointed out that Catholicism is only one, version of the many splintered versions of Christianity in the first century.
Rather than deal with History and FACTS, you chose playground arguments.
Please address the issues.
@@plporter bless your heart. You really don’t know the difference between veneration and worship. Nor do you know history.
On #2, it all depends on how "satanic" is defined. The foundation of the rituals is Masonic, not Christian, so for some people that is going to put them in a realm beyond anything that is Christian and, by their definition, anything not of God is the other's domain, anything not of faith is sin as the Bible states, etc.
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Mmmm, Mormon truth changes subtlety through the years and members have perfected cultural amnesia. When I was a wee lass in the 80s the halls were just pictures of Joseph and the prophets, and a few of the weird disproportionate BOM illustrations. Nothing about Jesus or the Bible. It wasn’t until about 20-25 years ago that the prophets were replaced by Jesus and more abstract biblical art. The kid testimony script was ‘ I’d like to bear my testimony, I know this church is true. I love my mom and dad I know that Joseph smith was a true prophet. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.’ Prophet worship was waaaay stronger when I was younger. I have heard recent verbiage about Mormons trying to unify the trinity, which is weird. When I was young, they were 3 distinct entities.
That kid testimony script hasn't changed much. What I find particularly troublesome was line #2. Love from parents is always associated with the truth of the church. If you ever decide to leave, you tend to be in doubt of whether your parents will ever fully love you.
I’ve definitely never heard of these before but I think most of them were probably made as a joke.
2:55 She softens this one with "at least not on a regular basis". If this has ever happened, it was never something the church supported or authorized. Everyone in the church would consider such a thing rape, unless it was somehow consensual, in which case, at best it would be fornication and/or adultery. All of which would have been considered a gross sin by the LDS church. It is possible that some Bishop in the history of the church ever used his position of authority to force this to happen, maybe, though I've never heard of it. But if it ever did, all Mormons and non-Mormons would likely agree very much that that was a disgustingly sinful act and purely the actions of an individual and not something the church condoned or endorsed. I only felt the need to clarify since the phrase "at least not on a regular basis" made it sound like there might be times when the church is okay with this, which its not, rather than the qualifier intended by the author of "maybe this has happened before because some people are just bad people and I don't know every event ever."
Wait, the rest of you didn't get horns?
“Jesus is a created being” is a big lie out there too
I believe joy is how you perceive it. There are some people who find joy in Judaism Christianity, Islam, or not believing in God.
I've been asked if I have horns before! Lol
the horns thing
It's true but just not in the way people think
The Jewish priests use Ram's horns as trumpets
You ever seen the horned devil god Aries 🐏♈ the RAM
The devil has horns
They acted being sir pen'ts 🐍🖋️ and made man-made volcano replica alters 🌋 they sacrifice animals
A Devil 👹🌋 volcaNO GOD
On top of most Mormon temples you'll see horns
Another word for temple they say the body (bode) there's also on either side of your head the temple
if there's horns on top the Temple 🤷🏻
That's sort of a connection to horns on the head 👹
Of course Mormons have
Mission 🐏 Aries
And in the temple they do work for the Dead 👻
LDS
🧛🏻 Lucifer 👹 Devil 🐍 Serpent
Back around 2010 I had an epiphany kind of thing from that time on
it feels like knowledge being downloaded into my brain and I have the ability to see things that other people don't until they let me show them or talk
I can do this sort of thing for hours
AdamNation 🏛️ D.C.eived
I'll just take one. I started going through the temple in 1990. Never once did I ever hear or see a blood oath. So unless they changed every single ceremony every time I went then thats actually a lie.
I thought it was the ex-Mormons who had the horns. Mine are in the closet for safekeeping. I only pull them out for when i get invited to church.
the horns thing
It's true but just not in the way people think
The Jewish priests use Ram's horns as trumpets
You ever seen the horned devil god Aries 🐏♈ the RAM
The devil has horns
They acted being sir pen'ts 🐍🖋️ and made man-made volcano replica alters 🌋 they sacrifice animals
A Devil 👹🌋 volcaNO GOD
On top of most Mormon temples you'll see horns
Another word for temple they say the body (bode) there's also on either side of your head the temple
if there's horns on top the Temple 🤷🏻
That's sort of a connection to horns on the head 👹
Of course Mormons have
Mission 🐏 Aries
And in the temple they do work for the Dead 👻
LDS
🧛🏻 Lucifer 👹 Devil 🐍 Serpent
Back around 2010 I had an epiphany kind of thing from that time on
it feels like knowledge being downloaded into my brain and I have the ability to see things that other people don't until they let me show them or talk
I can do this sort of thing for hours
AdamNation 🏛️ D.C.eived
I’m a current Latter Day Saint. This video just made me laugh. I think all the scrutiny is absolutely ridiculous both the BS lies and the true stuff. My faith is based on a personal belief in God, Jesus Christ and a hope for a life after this one. I find the reaffirming peace of the Holy Spirit in this gospel and haven’t had that in any other religion I’ve investigated. The promise of God is to find joy in all good things not just church. My love for my wife is there with or without my faith but my trust in her and the promises we made to each other at marriage, also sealed by the correct authority makes my love and joy with her even stronger. Find joy where you can.
Interestingly back in the 1980's my seminary teacher told us that even Adam and Eve had belly buttons... because they were literal offspring of God the Father and our Heavenly Mother! That part about being from the dust of the earth was because of the fruits their mother ate from the Garden of Eden to have matter to form the bodies from as they grew inside of her. Pretty wild stuff for me as a 15-year old!
@nordicexile7378-There is absolutely no where that doctrine is taught or published. Your seminary teacher went rogue.
@@micheleh3851 I'm not so sure about that... I do know for a fact that there was something similar in the Journal of Discourses (whether those are "doctrine" or not is debatable") because I read it on my mission at a member's house. I think it was Orson Hyde (or Orson Pratt?) saying that there are celestial fruits in heaven that the gods eat to grow our pre-mortal spirit bodies, and then when they go to Eden they eat terrestrial fruits there to make terrestrial bodies like for A&E. That part didn't explicitly talk about them having belly buttons or not, but was still pretty cool to read!
When you seek answers from the Book of Mormon instead of the Bible, God can't help you because you have turned your back on Him. Therefore this leaves the door open for Satan (II Corinthians 11:14-15) to step into your life with a false christ or prophet showing you signs and wonders to lead you away from the real Jesus of the Bible who is God the Son 2nd person of the Trinity and the Eternal Creator God. God Himself warns us about this in: MATTHEW 24:23-24
"Then if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Christ! or There! do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect..."
Mormons teach and believe that their jesus is the brother of Satan, which contradicts what God says in His Bible that Jesus is God the Son 2nd person of the Trinity and the Eternal Creator God. So Mormons, which Jesus do you believe in?
A. Your jesus of the Book of Mormon who is the brother of Satan.
OR
B. The Jesus of the Bible, who is God the Son 2nd person of the Trinity and the Eternal Creator God.
No one should be faulted for just not believing. If I'm not convinced, if there's absolutely no conviction within me, that doesn't mean I am wrong or mistaken, it just simply means I need more proof. A belief is just that--a belief. Beliefs are not facts and a fact is not a belief because facts are proven by evidence that is undisputable. Feelings over Facts is not proof. Facts are not based on assumptions but only factual evidence that either proves or disproves, period. There is no physical nor real time evidence for God. They are comparing feelings over factual evidence, the two are not the same at all.
Knowing is not a belief, and believing is just a replacement for not knowing. When you know the real facts undeniably you simply cannot dismiss or "unknow" those facts no more than you can fool yourself into believing what you know to be untrue. Belief may be a choice, but a fool accepts anything without proof or evidence. Believers consider non believers to be atheists, whereas non believers see themselves as realists, naturally.
Non believers only require more accurate and tangible proof or evidence, whereas believers do not want either at all, and will not accept any that may be contrary to their beliefs
The one thing that you mentioned about the King James Bible is just a little bit wrong. 30 years ago the Mormon church stated that “We believe in the Bible as far as it is correctly translated” That used to be an Article of Faith. What the Mormon church has since done is have their own version of the King James Bible and claim that their King James Bible is now one of the four works that they believe in except that their King James Bible is not as authoritative as the Book of Mormon. I know, for the “One True Church” they change their doctrine quite often.
I completely disagree with your idea of Joseph Smith not being a deity. He is literally on the council with Jesus and God to decide our judgement. I believe while the idea, of worshiping god is presented in Mormonism, I honestly believe Joseph Smith is essentially that God and since the religion is false, puts himself in that position of power. He is the one being worshiped, his ideas of god are the ones being presented, and his presence in such a ridiculous high council with THE most powerful figures in Christianity. Really doesn't make it look like that the opposite is true. Also, sad about the orgies, at least that would have made mormonism more fun.
Lexi, I'm not Mormon, never have been but neither am I anti-anybody. (Believe whatever you will and in the end you'll either be right ... or not.) At the risk of biting the hand that feeds me - it has recently come to my attention that my employer is Mormon - it has long seemed to me that LDS are more about this: ruclips.net/video/TldVj-GHWiw/видео.htmlsi=SgoAUUQnxRQfycUP and less about ruclips.net/video/0UdHlrEdjM0/видео.htmlsi=ckBMdWdz22_JhEYA .
For the sake of my Mormon friends, I hope that I'm wrong.
"Certain types of music" yeah we know what that means. JAZZ
6:23 lies, they aren’t paid, they’re given a modest “living stipend” of 4x or more than the average working wage. Most of them were already well off financially so that makes it ok. They make millions selling the books they wrote back to the people who paid for their expenses while they wrote the books, which is also acceptable for some reason.
The problem with identifying lies is that influencers rarely give any documentation for their statements. While I may believe what you are saying, there still isn’t any way to know if you or those you disparage are more accurate. No documentation - no receipts.
Personally, MY horns appeared AFTER leaving the church, being a heathen and all. 😈🫢
Hail to the man who communed with Jehovah??? Sounds like worship to me. And I am an exiting Mormon.
In the 1980's a coworker told me that the Mormon tribes were descended from people from outer space. He told me this in a confidential tone, as if sharing a secret. He added that the TV series Battlestar Galactica, which depicted the last of the Twelve Colonies of Mankind, was about the Mormon origins.
The "no belly" myth dates back to BY time and it is an upside dowm myth; christians used to say Adam had no belly because we was created, not born of a woman. BY taught he did have a belly becasue e was borne on another planet and brought to this earth.
The second two are the same things they used to say about Roman Catholics. Also, you can switch out Mary with ole Joe and that's Catholic, too. So are the Satanic rituals and not using the Bible, but that's based on Catholics not being encouraged to read the Bible very often. It's more about letting the church teach their doctrine rather than abandoning the Bible all together.
The dancing is from the Southern Baptists, and the sex through a sheet is from Orthodox Judaism. So is the having horns thing. There was also a Medieval/Renaissance idea that Moses had horns based on a passage in Genesis (look it up, it's weird.) He's depicted that way in the famous Michelangelo sculpture of him in Rome.
The bishops having sex with brides before their husbands, I think goes back to "first night" privileges back in medieval times when the Lord of a land had that right if the couple lived on his land (which is also basically a myth, it was not a common practice at all).
Religious folks just can't seem to come up with very many new lies about religions other than their own, can they? A few comparative religion classes wouldn't hurt. If their faith is strong and true, they should be alright, right?😂
Prima nocta was the law in Scotland for at least 2 English kings rule. About 100 years and it happened all the time. If a couple skipped out and married in secret the woman was killed pregnant or not.
It was done to bring Scotland in line and is a major reason why the scots hate the English monarchy.
#5. Is on the book of Mormon 1985 edition it takes about this. It takes about anyone who's not white being less than, as a person who's part Indian this one bothers me. I'm also exmo.
What about the songs they sing for the prophets. I remember being told that when the prophet waved his kerchief at me... That was the closest I would get to Jesus while still alive.
The whole "mormons having horns" things I had heard of but it was always that mormons would grow horns when they got wet. As an exmormon I kinda wish that some of these crazy lies were true.
I was in a rock/pop band made up of LDS guys. We play at many dances in LDS buildings. Lots of Mormons on the dance floor......
a lot of these things you are mentioning I have never heard when I was a Mormon I am so glad I left the fraud Church and God opened my eyes about who JS was thank you sister for your great video !
The belly button one is hilarious who would actually believe that 😂😂😂😂
Great video, Lexi! Thanks for this! ❤
I had never heard most of these (on either side), or if I did, I didn't much care. However, I had a couple of Mormon missionaries show up at my door one day, and since I am always up for a good debate, I talked with hem for a while; they left me with a copy of the Book of Mormon, which I skimmed through. I was looking forward to our next discussion, but unfortunately, when they came back, the door was answered by a young woman house-sitting for me while I was on vacation. The reported conversation went something like this (edited a bit to keep the names out, and let's face it, it's been about 40 years):
Mormon Missionary: "Could I speak with Mr. "Jones"?
Young Woman: "He's not here."
MM: "Oh. Are you his wife?"
YW: "No."
MM: "Thank you."
They never came back. I guess they thought I was living in sin, and was irredeemable.
Any ritual that is not prescribed by either God or Jesus in the scripture is technically considered satanic.
Lmao oh my goodness someone said that to me about having to have sex with the bishop before my husband 😂😂😂😂 i snorted laughed too freaking funny!!
I knew of a small local church years ago where they said the same thing about the minister and the brides-to-be. It was never proven or disproven. I suspect this Mormon tale is built along the same lines.
@@cousinfester4621 , It's crazy the rumors that ppl spread
Is it true Brigham Young was a lizard?
The myth about bishops getting the first night with a bride is really weird to hear because that myth is also told about medieval lords requiring the first night of the bride. It seems like one of those typical slander myths that gets recycled throughout the ages
#3
You have to look at what the Book of Abraham actually says;
Abr 1:14
"I will refer you to the representation at the commencement of this record.....That you may have an understanding of these gods, I have given you the fashion of them in the figures at the beginning..."
These scrolls can be very long, the one Joseph used was about 10 ft long. They can also be pieced together with a glue, they have found one 50ft long. Also they are massed produced by scribes, the vignettes were drawn with certain items like the lion bed. Then the person buying it would pay to add in other items.
The Book of Abraham appears to have someone editing it with explanation of what was going on, probably the owner. The story of the virgins being sacrificed seems to be added in to explain just how evil the priest were. Then there is a switch back to Abraham speaking; "And it came to pass that the priests laid violence upon me"
Facsimile 1 does not look like a professional scribe drew it, in fact the original is a mess.
The owner of this scroll was inspired to attach his copy of the Book of Abraham to his scroll and then went to the "beginning" and filled in the vignette.
There are four things which have cemented my belief that the Book of Abraham is real.
1, Verse 9 is describing Sobek-Ra, Sobek was the crocodile god of Pharaoh and the sun god Ra which had become one god as the Pharaohs grabbed power.
Joseph could not have known that.
2, It's Biblical, compare Abraham 3: 22-23 with Zech 3.
3, The word Shinehah is a real Egyptian word for sun.
4, In 1828 Joseph and Oliver were told more would be coming for them to translate, that's 7 years before the Book of Abraham drops into their laps.
#3 is an egyptian word for sun according to Mormon scholars who are squinting their eyes at it. No one outside of mormondom agrees.
Love this video ❤
There are some versions of the bible where God or Moses has horns
Good video, I was baptized at the age of 8,in 1975, about 47 yrs, LDS member and an ex lamanite, yes everything u said is true, and I've heard all of them, u forgot, they have horns and tail haha, loved the video 😀
Make that 10 lies and 10 distortions.
I agreed with most of what you said. Thanks for trying to keep it correct.
Always enjoy your content!
I get accused of that Everytime I talk about getting the same sentence from church court as my rapist.
I’m very sorry this happened to you.
I was sexually assaulted (not rape) at a “young adults” overnight camp event when I was 19 years old and when I told his bishop, he didn’t believe me. The bishop said the guy was engaged!! Funny, the guy didn't mentioned that. The guy was a BYU student home for the summer. I'd never met him before - we attended different stakes. The guy's dad was very wealthy, I was raised by single mom with little money.
I've never heard the belly button thing. It's really funny. I've known people, mormon and non-mormon, who had a tummy tuck. So their belly buttons were surgically removed. Nothing to do with religion, just a side effect of significant weight loss.
Thank you for all of your videos, Lex. All the best to you and your family.
Can you explain the “washing & anointing” ritual. Is it only for women? Is it a pre-marital ritual? A testimony related to me sounds pretty traumatic.
The washing and anointing is used in the endowment ceremony and it is for both men and women
The washing and anointing has changed a TON through the years. Until the 1920s, it was a full bath where someone of the same sex would scrub you down and literally wash you. Later (1925-2005), you wore a poncho or sheet with holes in the side and they would touch you in a few places (not sexual, but places like your inner thigh and belly button) while don't some light cerimonial washing. After 2005, you remain clothed (in garments - kind of like a t-shirt and knee-length underwear) and touching is limited to your forehead and places like that. It is prior to the endowment, so would tend to be for all adult members prior to a mission, marriage, or when they want the ceremony as an adult. Annointing similarly changed from a (literal) horn full of oil poured over your head (1800s) to (now) tiny amounts of olive oil placed on your forehead, etc.
There is all kinds of "joy" "blessings" "inspirations" and answers to prayer outside the Church. Any faithful member of the Church of Jesus Christ knows that, or should.
Here's a question: Where did the free masons get their ceremony?
It’s pagan. Also, when they reach the higher levels they go out and start a religious following.
Not true.
It wasn't from Solomon of The Bible if that's what you're getting at. Freemasonry started long after that!
Freemasonry started in the middle ages, to say it's from Solomon's Temple is simply an anachronism meaning the statement is completely out of sync with the time frame. The book of Mormon is loaded with anachronisms. It claims that the barges the Israelites used to migrate to the new world didn't have glass windows in them because they would be dashed to pieces during a storm. But glass hadn't been invented for 2000 years after the time frame that that story was supposedly written, but Joseph Smith didn't know that
It was all pulled out of a free mason jar.
I was not raised Mormon, but I was also raised to believe that there was no true joy outside of Evangelical Christianity. I once attended a talk where John Piper (a prominent retired evangelical leader) discussed why Christian joy wasn't more accepted as evidence of the religion's truth by non-believers...because they should just see that, unlike them, evangelicals are not miserable and sad. Their eyes and hearts should cry out for some happiness.
#2
There is a letter written by one of the hoaxers who said Joseph asked him to send them to 3 different antiquity specialists of some kind. Two of them were overseas in France and England. In other words Joseph told them to go pound sand.
You have to know how the History of the Church was written to understand why it looks like he tried to translate them. The editors gleaned from their own journals and put words in Joseph's mouth he never said.
# 4
I thought that too, that Joseph borrowed from the Masons who drew from the Bible. But then I learned that the beginnings of the endowment started before Joseph became a Mason. He was doing some of it in Kirtland.
I also learn the word mystery in the Bible means initiation rituals. Paul wrote about learning the initiation rituals, and was given the right hand of fellowship.
Also the Greek word pistis translated faith means to make a vow, to pledge allegiance. Changed the whole meaning of Ephesians for me.
And then I read the Secret Book of Mark and my mouth dropped. Look it up.
Excellent video Ex-Mo.
Great topic
So when Lucifer calls the aprons symbols of HIS power and priesthoods; that isn't Satanic?
amazing video!
As an exmo, I concur with Lex 110%
Absolutely!!! I thought everything was false, everything i was told about Mostly were false...
Great video!
Almost nobody talks about Mormons having horns, least of all ex Mormons.
There are so many more that could fit on both lists