When you Refuse Magnus Carlsen's Draw Offer | Carlsen vs Vakhidov | World Blitz 2023 Round 2
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2023
- Magnus Carlsen was playing against one of Uzbekistan's top GM Jakhongir Vakhidov. It's not often that Magnus is ready for a draw and the opponent isn't. Checkout this game from round 2 of the World Blitz 2023.
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0:12 that was smooth
that was a, congratz on getting to play magnus
W dap
fr
You never dapped up the homies lmfao😂
oh god it would be wonderful if it were my ass cheeks instead 😳😳☺
Magnanimous of Magnus to offer him a draw with a time differential of a whole minuite and he has 4 secs left. Very very classy play. Respect
At 8:14 he tries to make eye contact, then raised his hand in the handshake position for a split second before moving his King. This suggests he wants his opponent to make the 3rd repetition move and accept the Draw. The opponent ignores the offer, almost shakes his head "no" before breaking the repetition by moving his Rook to a new square thereby declining the Draw.
Am I correct? I know little about Chess.
Correct
Yes sir you are correct
i don't think that's accurate. his opponent was already repeating moves, so magnus thought he wanted to draw already and that's why he looked at him. but when he realised that's not the case, then magnus just made his next move. he definitely did not try to offer a handshake for a split second. if you immediately do that without it being clear that your opponent wants a draw, then it can only be interpreted as you're resigning. also i don't see the opponent shaking his head. he was just glancing at the clock.
You are spot on. White risks nothing by playing it out. Good call.
@@user-ee1lo1il3f Spot on
8:14 magnus offers draw
where? how?? dont see anything
@@christalmettbrotchen1298 repetitive moves.
@@christalmettbrotchen1298offers draw by the eyes
Whoever is reading this, Jesus loves you
So does Riley Reid @@simbapols
JV has come a long way since I watched him failing to hustle Ameet Ghasi in the Shropshire Open of 2007 or so.
I wasn't expecting the rook move like that, not sure if computer would suggest a win move for Vakhidov
Wait.... Is this the kramnik shirov counterattack?? I have played that exact lines many times. Very interesting
Where could I find the notation of this game, does this anybody know ? Thank you!
first time i've seen a chess players hands go so high up it almost out of camera :)
😂
like a maestro
🙌
more like salt bae IMO@@joseviu969
“The Claw”
For those who are confused, it would have been draw via repetition (3 of the same move occurring in one game
Sir..wo digital wala rakhana tha na..easy padta he achha read karne
8:16 Magnus: draw??
.No ( takes the pawn)
Magnus: Okey lets play🙄🤣😌
There was no offer, he was annoyed because they were moving the same pieces back and forth the same place
@@BlamBlam80 thats an indication of draw. If white move it the same one last time it was a draw already at that point.
@@admirality5292 OK, learn something new, thanks
Not exactly. Magnus already had figured it would end in a draw. That's why he seemed a little annoyed that his opponent decided to keep going.
@@geoffreyd3186Can’t blame the guy lol, Magnus knew it wasn’t going anywhere though. Could’ve have won?
You can’t see clearly from that angle. Would be nice to add a digital overlay showing the position.
He choked @6:30 he just needs to go Ke3 to push g4 and then overthinks and goes to c3 after burning his whole clock. What a pity after a great game he played
2 move repetition was just to build time on the clock... it was half a move away from a draw by repetition, I didn't see a draw offer from magnus, only an expectation based on the previous 2 moves.
Wow that was so gutsy to avoid a draw with only 3 seconds on the clock while Magnus has 1:20. You would have to be confident in your hand dexterity let alone your calculation speed.
5:51 Vakhidov violated the rules by moving his piece before his opponent hit the clock.
It happens in blitz, it's not a big issue if he does that once.
@@ashmeetchhabra1717 ok, I can kinda agree with that
No bro pre moving is officially allowed in blitz games
You can do it many Times you want but you have to take care of touch to move
@@tejasrollno2822 so, if I touch a piece before my opponent completes his move, im obligated to move that piece. So, like, my opponent could theoretically play something different based on such obligation?
@@dmed312The move is completed when the oponnent removes the hand from the piece, not when he hits the clock.
This is why Magnus is the GOAT. He is of course, a prodigious player... but his sportsmanship is second to none.
Like that game he adjusted his pieces for a minute wasting time... some think it was him messing with his opponent, but really it was because his opponent waited for him to show up (being late in typical Magnus fashion) instead of starting his timer and forcing a forfeit. Magnus sees that, starts his timer, then burns his own time as a show of respect.
I just think of Bobby Fischer and how he would respond in these situations... it's not pretty.
Vakhindov had a good dap w his homie in the beginning tho 😂 0:13
00:11 That was a great moment, that smile. :) Btw, I think it's the man of the moment right there, Nodirbek.
It was Levon Aronian
Interesting game
Magnus had to think after the draw was denied, so it wasn't like he KNEW that the game would end in a draw. However, that game ended in a draw regardless. Magnus must have a crazy intuitiveness that allows him to know far into the future how a position will turn out with a fair degree of accuracy
An immaculate dap
Magnus saw that the continuation would lead to a draw, as his king had enough time to block the rook-pawn.
He was a bit frustrated that his opponent didn't see that and continued playing.
That blew my mind that he figured it out at that stage
@@magedazouz7767Well, there's a reason he's the best chess player on this planet...
He played like a champion, for winning
no just not as smart
using the arm as hypnosis
When did it happen
I don wanna wait throw all that
Sir Commentry please 😅
Human Claw Game that guy.
Once you get to certain situations with certain pieces, you already know all the possible outcomes. It's possible for someone to make a mistake, but when you have this much experience, it's always the same result. He just didn't want to waste any more time than necessary on redundancy.
Don't mess with The GOAT ...
Magnus is the best!!!
Wait, Magnus was on Time!!!😂 That’s rare These days
The opening surprised (confused) me...
8:14
Thanks me later 😌
honestly, thanks mate
Thanks
are yaar aise video mat dala Karo jisme board hi nahi dekh raha ho
Rook pawn and king against King in position to stymie the promotion is a draw.
8:14 Magnus offer draw
3:06 magnus destroyed him
at the end ?
Annoying when your opponent suspends his hand in the air over the board. Just make the move or put your arm back!!!
Yes that's annoying. In the club where I play it's even more annoying, some players take a piece off the board and then suspend it in the air. We have loose rules but I try to enforce "real" rules
Molesto el querer darte la mano? Estais enfermos
Remember that not everyone is a psycho like you luatala
I know - his arm looks like a crane hovering over the board.
At 8:05
- Take the draw rather than it happens like the day before (scary voice). - What was that (trembling)? - Another draw.
7:51
We want analysis board
At 8:42 why magnus didn't gave check with rook to play the pawn
The king will move towards pawn and it creates threat by promoting queen😊
Cause white king sit on b4 this means take an extra move for pawn to be queen
But then black pawn too would be on C3 which is more closure
Rook a5 check and protect the pawn still draw just c3 draw move on board if white king move to b4( i think )ask stockfish bro i'm not magnus😅😂
@@Z.berdan 😅😅
paused at 9:17 by accident as Magnus is giving him an evil glare as if to say why did you waste that extra 10 seconds of my life and he his facial expression is hey I did it.. lol
thats 3 loop move on 8:14 and still can't accept the draw😂😂
how did magnus win in the last move?... i am starting to learn chess can someone please explain.Thanks
He got into position with his king to deny the forward progress of the pawn. Game would become a stalemate at that point (draw). Both players agreed game was done at that point.
Correct… pawn is on the edge so black won’t allow white to get out of his own pawn’s file to queen it
Check the king and magnus pawn kill i know ending is draw but match very close but whay no check the maguns king
OK it seems that as best player in the world, he expects to draw when he sees fit - it was a draw OK but even so kudos to his opponent for refusing!
I'm so self-defeatingly contrary. I see that they each have an extra Queen off-board, presumably for use in promotion. I'd promote to a Rook . . .
Someone explain...was it a draw at the end? White could have pushed his pawn. What happened at the end? Why was it a draw? Ka7, then black can't defend a8. if white pawn pushed, couldn't white promote?
Ka7 Kc7. Don't have to defend the pawn if its own King is blocking its route. There's no way for the King to get out either due to opposition.
Everybody gangster till the king starts moving.
Watch 8:14 - 8:18
Can somebody tell me why bishop e4 doesn't win the rook on minute 4:25
Think you are right
Just push pawn to d5
4:23 doesn't magnus blunder the exchange here if white had played Be4?
Magnus is human. He will make errors yet fewer than the rest of us. The A.I will not.
I don't think so. If Be4, you can just take the rook down the open file with your other rook that's not trapped in the corner, White takes back and now you can move your roon
@@zygorrette992there was no rook down the file to be captured at this point.
Be4 really just wins the exchange but both players missed it
@@mewithmychick6960 yes that seems right but it's magnus, he'd probably use imbalances to atleast try to hold (these positions can get quite tricky to win, especially if the bishop acts as an anchor for the pawns.. If magnus has enough pawns, he'd prob win. But its blitz so...
@@zygorrette992 its still quiete a disadvantage for Magnus tho. I mean, its prob not totally lost because Magnus is Magnus and there is a 300 Elo gap but i surely wouldnt bet on him winning it 😂
At such a level, the most likely result is a loss after blundering like that.
I’ve never seen Magnus put his arm up so high like so many do it’s weird like arm over your head to make a move🙄
Um, 04:24 Be4?
So...did Vakhidov resigned at last or it was a draw?
There is a coughing competition going on off screen 😂
Hey Magnus my son watches all your videos and games. Give him a hi. Name is Kiyaan Sunder from South Africa
4:34 just bishop e4 and magnus is COMPLETELY lost …
if that move then carlson can just take rooke with his rooke and then he is free to move the other which he does later anyways.
I am not a chess pro or near it lol so if I dont see something it is because I dont see 20 moves ahead.
@@wipemgoodno, he can’t there no rook on b1 look maybe on 4:30
I notice the players never talk are you allowed to talk to your opponent while your playing
816. There was no draw offer. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
The pawn is on the edge of the board. The white king can’t stop the black king from getting to the corner. That position is a stalemate.
Correct me if I'm wrong. The white king reaches the corner first though, does he not? Could black king still end up there?
@@DrGeorgeAntonios Whites first there yes. But that doesnt matter here. black just plays C7 -> C8 -> C7 -> C8.... By doing that, whites king cant get of from the A-File wich means he blocks his own past pawn from promotion. But if he leaves the file by going downwards, the black king gets entrance to the A8 square wich also is a draw.
No matter what you do, white wont be able to promote.
Did he not miss be4 after rhb8?
I have the same thought.
Vakhidov missed a win at @4:35!! bishop to e4 could have won a game for him. Sad :(
A shame Magnus has to play with a mix of different black chessets.
I noted that too. But this is big boy stuff, Magnus just had to wear his big boy paints and get over it.
As a non-chess person.... Watching a high level game of chess without commentary is akin to watching a silent movie that was made in a culture that im entirely unfamiliar with, and thus i dont understand any of the idioms or cultural references that make the movie funny/relateable/moving/enjoyable.
By the time ive analyzed one move to see what could happen next, 4 more moves have occurred....
I didn’t see him offering a draw this seems like click bait
Magnus Blunders at 4:23 move 20 with his Rhb8 but Vakhidov misses it.
how
@@crazydave9665Bishop e4
when Carlsen offered draw?
8:14. He went to shake his hand as the same two moves were played continuously and a third would result in the draw.
When Did Magnus exactly offer a draw ??
Atleast you people don’t clickbait us
@8:14 Magnus tried to ... watch closely
At 8:14 he tries to make eye contact, then raised his hand in the handshake position for a split second before moving his King. This suggests he wants his opponent to make the 3rd repetition move and accept the Draw. The opponent ignores the offer, almost shakes his head "no" before breaking the repetition by moving his Rook to a new square thereby declining the Draw.
At around 8:15 to 8:17, Vakhidov and Carlsen repeated the position two times, and at this point, Vakhidov could have claimed a draw by going back to the same square, causing a threefold repetition.
Magnus briefly looked up and gestured at Vakidov, that Vakhidov could make a draw on that move. However, Vakhidov decided to continue the game by making a different move. Although Magnus never offered a verbal draw, he did acknowledge that a draw could be claimed by Vakhidov if he wanted it.
A pawn and king vs king can win ??
if your opponent have the opposition ... then you can't ..
learn the rule of the square!
Nope if king reaches to the corner first
Like everybody says, "it depends"
White cant push his pawn to promotion tho since either the black king will place itself on a8, blocking the way or whites king will go there to prevent blacks kill from entering but then you just mirror the whites kings movements and prison hin on the a-file while blocking his own pawn
Kon jita isme
4:31 why not Be4?
carlsen blunders too. maybe he couldve saved the game since its blitz and anything can happen but Be4 is +2, more than enough advantage for a 2500 to convert
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4:26 White can play Be4 and win, no?
then 1.d5 and you lose a pawn but it's weak anyway, take with the bishop (Bxd5) then after 2.Bxd5 cxd5 the pawn is weak and black gains a tempo.
yeah he missed it
@@IResistanceI07 nah I don't think so, he's a GM, and he focused so much, never took his eyes off the board.
he is human, it happens@@livechesschannel
cxd5 and white wins@@livechesschannel
Why is it a draw when there is one pawn advantage???
@rodbenson5879
You’re wrong. KA7 by white accomplishes nothing because now whites King is blocking his own pawn on the A file from eventually advancing to A8. All Magnus has to do is keep alternating moves with his King between c8 and c7 and white can never get his king out of the A file to B8 or B7 to let his own pawn pass by. If white tries retreating his king to say B6 to clear the A file for his own pawn to advance Magnus then simply moves to B8. This was a draw.
@@rcg9573 yes apologies I made an error. Have removed my comment now. Thanks for pointing it out.
Who won?
Carlson has a 'tell'... Anyone notice?
Can sb tell when he refused the draw offer?
Ah I found it at 8:10😅
If dude ever got out of chess, just get into sales and be a straight Closer!
Wait who won?
Who wins?
When was Magnus' offer to draw refused?
At around 08:15
@@Achilles94627 There was no draw offer there at all lol, the guy did not even look at Magnus
@@MrDoMiNoPT at that point they usally offer a draw and Magnus was looking at him like he was expecting it but Vakhidov didn't want and didn't even look at him and kept playing. Thats it.
It was a possibility to do 3-repetition in fact
@@MrDoMiNoPTThere kinda was by repeating the moves but his opponent decided to keep playing
Uzbekistan
I am still confused who won like pretty sure that magnus lost
Even if I have 5 queen against Magnus king only I will accept draw…and this guy is ….
@@nagarajpn9279yep😂😂
That's ridiculous
always play for win until draw is inevitable
Funny 🙂
The different shades of brown for the black pieces is unacceptable.
They move the horsie wrong. It needs to be like L shape. And big tower piece can move like bird not like a log go fcks sake.
*******RED FLAG ALERT ********** . Sagar Bhai,,!!!!! Please change the titles to suitable ones. couple of easy misses. this title makes us feel Carlsen won. second one, "when Niemann went all out to win aganist prag". whilst you take so much efforts to cast us good chess, title shall speak for itself. please ensure them
Can't watch it without a chessboard screen...
i am confused on where the draw came from ?
Repetition of moves at 8:14 after 3 moves of repetition its a draw, the opponent decided to move his piece differently thus declining the draw.
@@someguynamedmax6849what are you talking about.. there was no repeating moves … simply won’t be able to queen your white pawn because it’s on the edge and black king won’t allow white king to to get out of his pawn’s file to queen it
@@munzerb 8:01 Vakhidov moves his rook up the file, 8:05 Vakhidov moves his rook to check Magnus's King, 8:06 Magnus moves his king away, 8:08 Vakhidov moves his rook to once again check the King, 8:12 Magnus moves his king back to the previous position, 8:13 Vakhidov moves his Rook back to the previous position to check the King once again, 8:15 Magnus again moves the King away to get out of the check, Then Vakhidov ends up breaking the repetition of moves by capturing Magnus's pawn.
So responding to your answer, yes. There were repeating moves.
Another clickbait title.
Instead of Magnus, dumb Casters presented us women's chess. If this trend continues, sponsors will soon see a decline in their revenue.
Yea truth is, 95% of us don't care about women chess. We want to see the best of the best, until a top woman player breaking 2700 isnt a tremendous milestone, most of us just want to continue seeing the top Dawgs.
@@BigGeorgeCostanza facts the #1 woman is #123 worldwide lol
@@BigGeorgeCostanza 95%? Where did you randomly pick that number from?
@@19nero19probably more than 95 tbh 95 percent is being generous
@@NakaruHikamuraOP oh, chat? Where all the kids and misogynists hang out? Bless you.
Strange title.