I miss my cobalt so much. It was only 13k brand new in 2005 and I had a manual coupe with no options. I did buy a friend's ss supercharged suspension when he got new coilovers so it handled well. Got 40mpg easy and still had the factory brake pads and clutch at 217k miles in 9 years.
I grew up in Germany, one time we had the 300c SRT8 as a loaner, but innGermany it was a station wagon. Awesome car. I think they never sold the Chrysler 300c as station wagon in the US only the dodge magnum… dodge did not sell in Germany
I agree about Chris Bangles’s designs. The more years go by the less disgusted I am about the way his cars look. I actually really like these 6-series cars. Even the entry level car here is quite quick so if you want to take a chance on the car holding itself together and not getting you an estimate of $9,000 to fix suspension and engine problems, go for it because it’s a great GT car that I think most people would enjoy 😉
Back in the 80's I parked my BMW 320i at a red neck bar among all the trucks. It got vandalized similar to the 6 Series. While it was being repaired, I rented a truck and parked it at a yuppie bar among all the BMW's. It drew stares but no damage. I assumed yuppies are afraid of trucks.
I purchased a 2004 545 with a 6 speed manual years ago. I feel that is the sleeper BMW of that era. Not as quick off the line as some of the newer turbos but nothing catches you when you downshift going up hill.
Best sleeper I ever owned.. Lincoln MKS with the 3.5L Ecoboost. The Ecoboost version came standard with AWD and that car never lost traction. Nobody ever saw that car coming. I also owned a 2013 Chrysler 300. It was good, but the Lincoln was better.
That Chris Bangle 6 series didn't age well, but I love it. The 6 series was the model to get exotic with and at the time it was ferrari-lambo exotic. When you saw one on the road you had to snap your neck and look.
I lol-ed hard when you guys said 10 and 11 thousand for the 300. It’s sick, but I think yall forgot that it is still a chrysler. Love these episodes/this series!
Always wanted to know what 300 (SRT-"D"?) might have been if the rumors of a MB TDI had actually came to pass and if not also along with an AWD option. The MB TDI could be tuned for massive torque and respectable Hp numbers while also having TDI efficiency when not into the vertical pedal on the right.
I guessed at 5-8000 on the SRT 300. The front-end damage and lack of power steering didn't help it. Also its around 16 years old even with lower miles for that age. I had a 2005 300C. My only complaints with it were the interior was cheap in areas and the Continental tires sucked bad. Tires were expensive to replace on it. The other thing was everyone thought I had more money than I did. It was cool Vanilla with the wire basket grill. Really sharp looking car. It had the pardon me do you have any grey poupon vibe to it! Lol For that time period it moved real well compared to what else was out there. It hung with C-5 Corvettes all day long. When you weren't on it had crazy good fuel mileage cruising the highway.
I could be wrong, but I was always under the impression the LX platform was a heavily reworked LH platform with Mercedes suspension components that got engineered out with the 2011 refresh. Probably just as much Renault DNA as Mercedes.
Funny because merc and Chrysler merged from 98-07 to form Daimler-Chrysler AG and mopars of the era share quite a few chassis parts with mercs might be some more stuff tho I don’t exactly remember
The Cobalt SS of this generation was turbo charged (260 hp/ 260 tq). You got taken for an appearance kit. If I recall the sedan version did the same lap time as a R34 GTR around the Nürburgring.
Fun fact: chrysler had a rwd platform for the new 300/charger/magnum but was forced to use the outdated heavy Mercrap chassis. With the second gen, the chrysler engineers redesigned the suspension because the Mercrap design was , well, Mercrap
Ultimate Driving Machine BMW died on the block! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Great job you two! Although maybe next time you can adjust the volume level. The desk volume level was so low I had to crank the volume up and then the outside volume blasted in my ears.
Hey guys.....shhhhh on the 300 SRT8's. Let's just let the outside world think they are slow, heavy boats that can't handle or be any fun. That way the prices stay reasonable AND us Mopar guys get to keep our sleeper status. Keep up the good work!
That 300 plus it’s stable mates I know as tow truck driver the biggest issue they had was wheel bearing failure even with normal wheels I picked up so many that the bearings failed and it was the front ones .
Bond,James Bond in my six series rocket launcher attached. These six series are still a puzzle to most but nevertheless has a charm only JB could love.
Talking about that bmw, for a second i thought you were talking about Corvette owners, i don't know how many of those I've had to pass with my 4 cylinder Chrysler Corp (Mopar) cars!!!
You absolutely don't want a 2007 300. I had a 2006 300C AWD. It was a great car when it was new but Chryslers dont age well. By 2016 everything was failing on mine. I traded it in on a Chevy Volt and was happy to take anything for it because it could never have passed its next inspection.
They are really boring to look at, but I used to like the Cobalt. I drove a regular base 2.2L sedan as a rental and I thought it was a comfortable and competent economy car. A leap forward from the Cavalier. Young people bought them and beat the snot out of them. They were pretty good cars though. GM doesn't offer anything close now. Now it's a Korean CUV called the Trax with less power and worse reliability.
Good luck finding any of these cars anywhere in any kind of reasonable shape. The ones for sale are typically beat to pieces money pits. If you can do a lot of work yourself, have at it. If not save your $$$ and find something better,
I wouldn't sit in that cobalt. I won't transfer that goo onto my clothes and into my own car. If I were Nathan or Brendan I'd bring "auction" clothes and change after the filming. Yes I'm ocd about this.
Less that egg crate grill and those fading dating headlights that Daimler Chrysler 300 is still a great looking car. I wanted to trade my 2010 Challenger for one. They didn’t act like they wanted to sell it. Who ever had that one trashed it.
SRT is a bit rough, although there is a real following for these cars - lot of go for bargain price. Pity about the steering, which might well be an expensive fix. $5250 is about right (and more than I - a dealer for 30+ years would have paid), as this thing will suck up some bucks before you can sell it, and it's NOT premium merchandise. Cobalt might have been kind of a neat little car, and almost certainly better for not having the blower, as it's less likely to have been thrashed. But condition is everything, and you'd have to spend some time on this thing and then accept a lower price. Also, cars like this are slow to sell, even if you carry your own paper. $2800 was too high; I'd have said $2k MAX. The Bimmer can cost a fortune to run and fix, and had some REAL issues (try fixing a crank position sensor). Rough high-end German cars can bury you in VERY short order, and become lot vultures that just never go away. How much are you willing to LOSE on this?? BUT, it's worth $1500 for parts, and that's about ALL it's good for!
LOL @ dead BMW getting pushed to the auction! I may be deranged, but I think I'd buy that SRT-8 for what it sold for here. Wouldn't try to fix anything cosmetic, would just make it mechanically semi-reliable and use it as a fun, silly daily driver.
Yeah 5 grand was a good deal on that Chrysler, somebody will have some positive equity in it at that price if they fix it up - The Chevy went for way more money that I'd have spent on a GM economy car from that era and that BMW was only worth scrap in my opinion.
I watch these to know more about what people are driving on the road around me. Im not interested in the meaty, fast cars I never see. I want to know what's under the hood in my area. As a delivery driver, I at least know who not to race at the merge lane.
You guys do a good job with your cars. I like the Srt 8. What about the Monte Carlo? Have you done that one yet? I have 00Monte SS. I could tell you it screams at top end and has some ignition timing booster above 90 mph it flys hard. But it isn't built for that, It can't handle the power of that 3800 v6 at all. And the braking is hardly and barely. So please let me know anything similar. You guys are excellent. I would try the Impala next.
This is the best segment going on at TFL!
Yeah & it has gotten better over time. Definitely hitting their stride
Agreed
Especially with the price of new vehicles these days!
I love these.
You are way too easily impressed. All 3 cars are pos. I would not pay 1k for any of them.
I have a 300 06SRT8 with only 13k miles. It still sounds and runs like new. The design is a classic.
Wow super low miles, you could probably get super good money for it but definitely keep it
I miss my cobalt so much. It was only 13k brand new in 2005 and I had a manual coupe with no options. I did buy a friend's ss supercharged suspension when he got new coilovers so it handled well. Got 40mpg easy and still had the factory brake pads and clutch at 217k miles in 9 years.
lol did it just never stop? 217k on factory pads is terrifying.
@@ryanbennett1532it's called highway miles
I love these Chryslers. Sad that they're discontinuing it.
I grew up in Germany, one time we had the 300c SRT8 as a loaner, but innGermany it was a station wagon. Awesome car. I think they never sold the Chrysler 300c as station wagon in the US only the dodge magnum… dodge did not sell in Germany
@@freedomisnotnegotiablethere is a Dodge Magnum srt8 in America, but it's pretty rare.
*I´m LOVING these segments*
Give us more "Hood Auction find" goodies, PLEASE!
The cobalt ss was turbocharged after 2008. If you want the supercharged version. You want 2007 or older.
I agree about Chris Bangles’s designs. The more years go by the less disgusted I am about the way his cars look. I actually really like these 6-series cars. Even the entry level car here is quite quick so if you want to take a chance on the car holding itself together and not getting you an estimate of $9,000 to fix suspension and engine problems, go for it because it’s a great GT car that I think most people would enjoy 😉
By comparison, 95% of today's "luxury" cars are just as ugly or worse, so it blends right in. Actually looks objectively nice.
Back in the 80's I parked my BMW 320i at a red neck bar among all the trucks. It got vandalized similar to the 6 Series. While it was being repaired, I rented a truck and parked it at a yuppie bar among all the BMW's. It drew stares but no damage. I assumed yuppies are afraid of trucks.
I purchased a 2004 545 with a 6 speed manual years ago. I feel that is the sleeper BMW of that era. Not as quick off the line as some of the newer turbos but nothing catches you when you downshift going up hill.
The worse engine bmw ever produced. Absolute junk
@@Ak47777-l I think you forgot that the Hot V N63 exists. The N62 isn't even that bad in comparison.
Best sleeper I ever owned.. Lincoln MKS with the 3.5L Ecoboost.
The Ecoboost version came standard with AWD and that car never lost traction.
Nobody ever saw that car coming.
I also owned a 2013 Chrysler 300. It was good, but the Lincoln was better.
That Chris Bangle 6 series didn't age well, but I love it. The 6 series was the model to get exotic with and at the time it was ferrari-lambo exotic. When you saw one on the road you had to snap your neck and look.
Really enjoy this type of content. Keep it coming!
I lol-ed hard when you guys said 10 and 11 thousand for the 300. It’s sick, but I think yall forgot that it is still a chrysler. Love these episodes/this series!
What is that even supposed to mean?
Same here 10-11k is atleast for an updated model.. this is the first model i was thinking 3-4k
@@mogulme6190it’s supposed to mean the cars not worth all that if you take the time to read you would see that😂
@@mylenhgood luck finding a 6.1 Chrysler for 3-4k
@@ericmiller2052yup when the engine alone sells for 7,500 used
Always wanted to know what 300 (SRT-"D"?) might have been if the rumors of a MB TDI had actually came to pass and if not also along with an AWD option. The MB TDI could be tuned for massive torque and respectable Hp numbers while also having TDI efficiency when not into the vertical pedal on the right.
GM went back to N/A in the Cobalt for insurance reasons. Kids were buying the turbo SS variant and wrapping them around telephone poles.
Really enjoyed the content but some audio leveling between the outdoor and indoor would help
300 C any day especially Pacer version which sold here in Australia. Never got SS Cobalt here in Australia n no to SMG in BMW but nice 4.4lt V8.
I guessed at 5-8000 on the SRT 300. The front-end damage and lack of power steering didn't help it. Also its around 16 years old even with lower miles for that age. I had a 2005 300C. My only complaints with it were the interior was cheap in areas and the Continental tires sucked bad. Tires were expensive to replace on it. The other thing was everyone thought I had more money than I did. It was cool Vanilla with the wire basket grill. Really sharp looking car. It had the pardon me do you have any grey poupon vibe to it! Lol
For that time period it moved real well compared to what else was out there. It hung with C-5 Corvettes all day long. When you weren't on it had crazy good fuel mileage cruising the highway.
I love how you always pop out the cup holders in your reviews.
I could be wrong, but I was always under the impression the LX platform was a heavily reworked LH platform with Mercedes suspension components that got engineered out with the 2011 refresh. Probably just as much Renault DNA as Mercedes.
It was based on the 210 chassis e-class. Nothing to do with the LH platform.
I’ve always liked the Chrysler 300. They’re slow without Boost but I like their styling, and they’re comfortable. I’m a Mopar and Benz fan.
Funny because merc and Chrysler merged from 98-07 to form Daimler-Chrysler AG and mopars of the era share quite a few chassis parts with mercs might be some more stuff tho I don’t exactly remember
the v6 is still definitly lively though
@aidanaddy6940 the whole platform is a mercedes platform. The LX. And the NAG 1 transmission. 5 speed Bulletproof is a Mercedes tranny
@@kylekashner2786 i have 2 nag1 for my charger
In Europe Chrysler 300 is sold as Lancia Thema something. Money pit Beemer’s trunk lid is different color gray.
Having a non super/turbocharged cobalt ss is CRAZY
Thanks for filming in the rain for us!
Some of us know the Cobalt SS from Need For Speed Most Wanted...it was one of the first car options in the game.
Tommy is great. I like his videos, but I am really enjoying the bearded duo of Brenden and Nathan. 👍 👍
😂
I had 2005 Hemi V8 back in a day and it was wonderful, this car must be absolute joy over regular V8
I have a SRT8 ,I love it drives smooth and still gets it pretty good for a big car.
sleepers, performance cars and luxury cars are y’all’s best videos. All the stuff us poor folks wish we could buy!
I like the two thousand sheven Cobalt. 10:10
The Cobalt SS of this generation was turbo charged (260 hp/ 260 tq). You got taken for an appearance kit. If I recall the sedan version did the same lap time as a R34 GTR around the Nürburgring.
Colbalt went for $2,800 so $ 2,500 wins because he didnt go over $2800 . "Price is right"rules. $3000 is over $2800. Nathan wins
In Southern Cali..See lots of these BMW modified. .the tuners love them
Fun fact: chrysler had a rwd platform for the new 300/charger/magnum but was forced to use the outdated heavy Mercrap chassis. With the second gen, the chrysler engineers redesigned the suspension because the Mercrap design was , well, Mercrap
Mustang be somebody who can’t afford a Mercedes
Coming from "youtubesucks2001" probably not a happy person.
Had one with the handling package. Not an SS. Most uncomfortable vehicle I have ever owned. Traded it for a dodge Journey. Another bad decision 😮
Love these videos I owned both a cobalt ss loaded even the pioneer speakers and the 300 srt 8 loved both
Ultimate Driving Machine BMW died on the block! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Great job you two! Although maybe next time you can adjust the volume level. The desk volume level was so low I had to crank the volume up and then the outside volume blasted in my ears.
Hey guys.....shhhhh on the 300 SRT8's. Let's just let the outside world think they are slow, heavy boats that can't handle or be any fun. That way the prices stay reasonable AND us Mopar guys get to keep our sleeper status. Keep up the good work!
That 300 plus it’s stable mates I know as tow truck driver the biggest issue they had was wheel bearing failure even with normal wheels I picked up so many that the bearings failed and it was the front ones .
Those are factory seats in the srt8 300. The next gen wasn’t as well bolstered
That 300 srt was a great deal for 5k the 6.1 engine is worth that
Agreed, fitting for the condition and miles it has. I rate everything against a twin turbo bmw 3 and this is a winner here.
You need to check audio volume in the different shots
Bond,James Bond in my six series rocket launcher attached. These six series are still a puzzle to most but nevertheless has a charm only JB could love.
I absolutely love this series.
Talking about that bmw, for a second i thought you were talking about Corvette owners, i don't know how many of those I've had to pass with my 4 cylinder Chrysler Corp (Mopar) cars!!!
I LOVE sleepers. This was a fun one
Slap a turbo on cobalt and call it a day. You could put 5 pounds of boost and still drive it reliably.
You absolutely don't want a 2007 300. I had a 2006 300C AWD. It was a great car when it was new but Chryslers dont age well. By 2016 everything was failing on mine. I traded it in on a Chevy Volt and was happy to take anything for it because it could never have passed its next inspection.
This is a great series!
This is a great episode! Good job!
The pre-2009 HEMI's are some of the best out there. No AFM!
The first iteration cobalt as did come with the s'charger, but the turbo SS is a 260(?) after that was a monster.
Enjoy yr channel. Good luck on who ever bought the money pit ( Chrysler 300).
T h e newer ones built a lot beter.
Make a Buy or Bust playlist
They are really boring to look at, but I used to like the Cobalt. I drove a regular base 2.2L sedan as a rental and I thought it was a comfortable and competent economy car. A leap forward from the Cavalier. Young people bought them and beat the snot out of them. They were pretty good cars though. GM doesn't offer anything close now. Now it's a Korean CUV called the Trax with less power and worse reliability.
Wow, that is two big fellas in a Cobalt
TFL drinking game: take a drink every time Tommy says “chunky,” Roman says “not grand,” or Nathan says “as such.”
there is usually only abt 8 chrysler 300 srt for sale in the country at any given time, and they sell for 16 to 24 grand...
Whoever got that bmw for $1500 got an absolute steal
To the next shop 😂
That smg will cost 10 times that when it goes out
Good luck finding any of these cars anywhere in any kind of reasonable shape. The ones for sale are typically beat to pieces money pits. If you can do a lot of work yourself, have at it. If not save your $$$ and find something better,
I see a lot of srt8’s with bad engines for sale in my area 😂. Lets not forget people drive these hard
The irony of reviewing that Chrysler in the rain is that it’s the epitome of run hard and put away wet. Bust.
I wouldn't sit in that cobalt. I won't transfer that goo onto my clothes and into my own car. If I were Nathan or Brendan I'd bring "auction" clothes and change after the filming. Yes I'm ocd about this.
Less that egg crate grill and those fading dating headlights that Daimler Chrysler 300 is still a great looking car. I wanted to trade my 2010 Challenger for one. They didn’t act like they wanted to sell it. Who ever had that one trashed it.
😂 Just a fun video, thank you guys 👍🤗🤣
5k? that's a steal
That Cobalt was not a true SS, they came turbo or supercharged period.
Had the “C” in 2006, lusted for the srt8! Nice car!
Was it fast?
If you could get that BMW cheap, a transmission swap to a ZF 8HP70 auto or a Tremec manual would be good - and the buyer did get it cheap
SRT is a bit rough, although there is a real following for these cars - lot of go for bargain price. Pity about the steering, which might well be an expensive fix. $5250 is about right (and more than I - a dealer for 30+ years would have paid), as this thing will suck up some bucks before you can sell it, and it's NOT premium merchandise.
Cobalt might have been kind of a neat little car, and almost certainly better for not having the blower, as it's less likely to have been thrashed. But condition is everything, and you'd have to spend some time on this thing and then accept a lower price. Also, cars like this are slow to sell, even if you carry your own paper. $2800 was too high; I'd have said $2k MAX.
The Bimmer can cost a fortune to run and fix, and had some REAL issues (try fixing a crank position sensor). Rough high-end German cars can bury you in VERY short order, and become lot vultures that just never go away. How much are you willing to LOSE on this?? BUT, it's worth $1500 for parts, and that's about ALL it's good for!
I actually like THE 6 series BMW. I think it looks hot!
LOL @ dead BMW getting pushed to the auction! I may be deranged, but I think I'd buy that SRT-8 for what it sold for here. Wouldn't try to fix anything cosmetic, would just make it mechanically semi-reliable and use it as a fun, silly daily driver.
Yeah 5 grand was a good deal on that Chrysler, somebody will have some positive equity in it at that price if they fix it up - The Chevy went for way more money that I'd have spent on a GM economy car from that era and that BMW was only worth scrap in my opinion.
The 6.1 rips and sounds badass.. dope dealer's white sunglasses essentially.
I like the one with the blacked out stealth grill. The SRT is awesome!
Magnum srt8 is my go too
there used to be a lot of 300 and magnums in los angles...now not that many...it looks like they dont last long
Good motor for a boat … like an old true inboard ….( srt 8)
I was in a cobalt ss supercharged and we did 275km/hr they were not a slouchy car
The office fight on the cobalt lol
Luvit❤a bullet proof beemer that looks like a 2door sebring
Those SRT8 Run for a lot of cash here in Sweden. Often over 25.000$
Forgot about a 300 srt8= $10k =420hp the lil brother is the 300c which is the affordable one 300c=340hp =$3000
Love this series
I love these videos! 💪🚗
There is a 2006 Cobalt SS I'm looking at right now with an asking price is $3200...It is the supercharged version lol
This is great content!
10:46 Says "cool wheels and tires" and shows a wheel covered in road rash and wrapped in a tire with a bubble. 🤣
16:10 “pretty scratched up”
Oh man, I'd love to put my dirty hands on that Chrysler 300 SRT
My Ex had a 2006 Cobalt LTZ with the bigger motor but not the SS appearance package. That car...was trash. The interior on yours looks about right.
Use the Cobalt to build a DF goblin
These are great videos
I have 2005 chrysler 300c srt8 without engine and gearbox and require changing the chassis to register it
I watch these to know more about what people are driving on the road around me. Im not interested in the meaty, fast cars I never see. I want to know what's under the hood in my area. As a delivery driver, I at least know who not to race at the merge lane.
You guys do a good job with your cars. I like the Srt 8.
What about the Monte Carlo? Have you done that one yet? I have 00Monte
SS. I could tell you it screams at top end and has some ignition timing booster above 90 mph it flys hard. But it isn't built for that, It can't handle the power of that 3800 v6 at all. And the braking is hardly and barely. So please let me know anything similar. You guys are excellent. I would try the Impala next.
Great information ...
I used to watch whole videos like this but now I have the attention span of a flea
I can't wait until the older toyota battle.
Love these🙌
Quality 2000's GM products. Great work.... yikes. Great video guys.
Everyone forgets about the Avalon its a bit of a sleeper 👀