I FINALLY TEARDOWN A VR6! Volkswagen's CRAZY Engine Idea From The 90's Was A HUGE SUCCESS!

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  • @BostonDodgeGuy
    @BostonDodgeGuy Месяц назад +289

    For anyone wondering what it's like being a mechanic in the north east, this is every single car right here.

    • @tommytron2000
      @tommytron2000 Месяц назад +12

      Was gunna say it looks pretty clean

    • @davyhill23
      @davyhill23 Месяц назад +9

      PennDoT salted roads

    • @nooooooooooo6uoki67
      @nooooooooooo6uoki67 Месяц назад +4

      yea its not as bad as some 90s GM shit I've seen up here

    • @JawzXlives
      @JawzXlives Месяц назад +4

      ​@@davyhill23One word: Vermont.

    • @chrisrobinson8937
      @chrisrobinson8937 Месяц назад +20

      It's not rusty, unless you can't even tell if it's an Allen or Hex head, because the edges have rusted away. Lol.
      I'm in Michigan. I definitely know about this

  • @Paul1958R
    @Paul1958R Месяц назад +188

    My late wife had a 2002 Jetta GLX wagon VR6 5-speed that she bought new literally off the showroom floor (the guys at the dealership called it the 'soccer mom rocket'). She put 170K+ on it and finally traded it in on a 2013 Jetta GLI 6-speed.
    Pretty good car/engine. I did have to take the entire front end off the car to replace the radiator. I also did a few brake jobs on it over the years. And it ate coil packs every 40K miles or so. A timing chain guide failed at some point (150K?) and we had it repaired by the local Euro car guru (that job was above my pay grade). The GLI lasted until she had trouble with her legs and couldnt drive a manual any more.

    • @riccocool
      @riccocool Месяц назад +8

      Techs doing warranty work know how to twist the radiator through the grill opening or out the bottom. Things that happen in dealerships is unbelievable and scary.

    • @geeniusatwrok
      @geeniusatwrok Месяц назад +34

      My condolences on your late wife.

    • @TLC7
      @TLC7 Месяц назад +2

      @@riccocool never have I seen that in the years I worked at vw it always came out with the condenser after taking covers off of the top of the radiator…

    • @ThraxxAddict
      @ThraxxAddict Месяц назад +2

      @@geeniusatwrok same, she had a good taste in cars imo

    • @StopTeoriomSpiskowym
      @StopTeoriomSpiskowym Месяц назад

      she never change timing regularly and its fail

  • @davidchapman7667
    @davidchapman7667 Месяц назад +312

    1995. 18yrs old. Brand new red gti vr6. Those were the days...
    And of course it had the correct number of pedals.

    • @RogierYou
      @RogierYou Месяц назад +13

      Survival of the lucky 😂

    • @jrock4086
      @jrock4086 Месяц назад +9

      Same age, same vibe, magical times.

    • @randyprenat6080
      @randyprenat6080 Месяц назад +10

      I have a 2008 Audi TT, 3.2 VR6, 166k miles, runs great, never uses a drop of oil. (Also have a 2003 E350van,7.3 PSD, 339k miles, runs great,and a 2004 E350 w/5.4 2valve, Tacoma 2009 w/4.0L, 281k. Only the Toyota had massive problems, warped heads due to previous owner ran it low on coolant, replaced w/used engine....)

    • @StopTeoriomSpiskowym
      @StopTeoriomSpiskowym Месяц назад

      where is others?

    • @ianba123
      @ianba123 Месяц назад +2

      Me too! (mine was a metallic wine red)

  • @Dis-Emboweled
    @Dis-Emboweled Месяц назад +142

    Without the VR6, there would be no Bugatti Veyron.
    Respect to the VR6 🫡

    • @hotdog9262
      @hotdog9262 Месяц назад +10

      and the 2 x vr6 - w12 which powers a lot of big lux cars

    • @Tdidylan
      @Tdidylan Месяц назад

      Not truh there is also a vr4

    • @engineer_alv
      @engineer_alv Месяц назад +5

      @@Tdidylan Yes there was a VR4 but it's not what you think, more of a Mitsubishi sport trim. The one you might be thinking about was the VR5. But the VR6 was the one that started it all

    • @mrspandel5737
      @mrspandel5737 Месяц назад +9

      ​​@@engineer_alv The idea of the VR6 wasn't even all that new at the time, Lancia had made a series of narrow angle V engines in both V4 and even V8 form from the 1920s all the way until the 1970s. All of the them having the familiar VR6 traits of a V angle less than 20° and a single cylinder head. VW certainly won't admit it but they definetely took inspiration from them.

    • @Tdidylan
      @Tdidylan Месяц назад +1

      @ I thought VW stole their idea

  • @joebersani8068
    @joebersani8068 Месяц назад +130

    No damage, them cut the hose. God I love this channel

    • @CheezeCracker
      @CheezeCracker Месяц назад +6

      He saved the one and only f.ed up chain guide. All the perfect ones over the years went flyin'

    • @therealdojj
      @therealdojj Месяц назад +8

      "I shouldn't have touched/why did I touch that?"
      Proceeds to touch stuff 🤣

    • @klord-is9ft
      @klord-is9ft 23 дня назад +1

      These Germans sure love their Allen key hardware 😂🤡

  • @JoseGarcia-hf4wl
    @JoseGarcia-hf4wl Месяц назад +152

    I can't stress enough how much I love your editing. You know exactly what the viewer wants to see. It's amazing and the type of stuff I want to see. Thank you for your time and effort. Keep up the great work!!!

    • @danhard8440
      @danhard8440 Месяц назад

      the other engine disassembly guy is better and funny this guy has kind of annoying Eeyore personality

  • @CruzanRastamon
    @CruzanRastamon Месяц назад +119

    99-02 GTI/Jetta AFP 12v. And it’s far from VW’s crazy ideas. VR6 is a tried and true vw engine starting from 92 all the way up till today…for the most part. 03 they chanted it to 24v and in 04 they offered a 3.2L in the R32, Audi TT and in Europe the Audi A3. The late 2ks they bumped it a 3.6L that came in the Vw CC, Passat and Touareg. They ran the 3.6L after discontinuing the Touareg for the Atlas in 2017. Iirc the 2023 Atlas was the last to the VR6. They swapped it out for a 2.0L Europe and Asias version of the Atlas got a new 3.0L turbo vr6. So to sum up. They do make alot of them. The MK4 12v is the most common engine to get. All VR6 versions are pretty easy to get.
    I’m barely half way thru and I can tell you that’s a good engine. The only thing that really goes are the timing chain guides.
    You can mount the engine on the stand from the back on the pulley side. The 4 holes.
    And you needed a cam locking tool so you don’t back the valve down on a piston when you take the chains off
    FYI, I’ve been working on these engines since they came out. Volkswagen tech and retired shop owner that specialized in VR6. Nearly 35 yrs in the game.

    • @rmp5s
      @rmp5s Месяц назад +2

      I had a very good import mechanic notice me eyeballing a Scirocco that was in his shop...he was like, "no. Don't." 🤣
      That your experience as well?

    • @CruzanRastamon
      @CruzanRastamon Месяц назад +3

      @@rmp5s I would’ve grabbed it. They’re getting hard to find especially if it’s an early one.

    • @rmp5s
      @rmp5s Месяц назад +2

      @@CruzanRastamon Everything good from that era are endangered species these days.

    • @JoelCaseyJonesMusic
      @JoelCaseyJonesMusic Месяц назад

      @@rmp5s he probably didn’t want you to buy it so he could grab it… 😂
      I had a mk1 scirocco and it was fun as hell to drive, great on gas, and easy to work on… god I miss that car 😢

    • @JoelCaseyJonesMusic
      @JoelCaseyJonesMusic Месяц назад +1

      I know as I watch this I’m jealous he’s cutting things and pretty much treating it like it’s destined for the dump… I want to find a good 12v candidate for tear down and build up to swap into one of my mk4s

  • @goosedeathable
    @goosedeathable Месяц назад +93

    Eric, little tip here for those internally wrenching Allen heads, triple squares etc that strip out and you’re struggling. Lay some copper wire over the fastener as you hammer your tool in for extra grip. Saved the day a few weeks back on a 737 fuel valve actuator.

    • @gapratt4955
      @gapratt4955 Месяц назад +3

      Was that a JT 8 or a LEAP engine?

    • @fcbrants
      @fcbrants Месяц назад +3

      Hmmm... should we be concerned that you were (apparently) hacking & banging on a stripped bolt... on a 737 fuel valve actuator?

    • @M.L.R.Z.
      @M.L.R.Z. Месяц назад +6

      Seems right with the quality of 737s haha

    • @steveblackbird
      @steveblackbird Месяц назад +1

      @@gapratt4955 CFM-56...

    • @MattyEngland
      @MattyEngland Месяц назад +10

      ​@@fcbrants No, aircraft engines are just like any other engines. Bolts get stripped and rounded on lots of things.

  • @mickeymang6
    @mickeymang6 Месяц назад +21

    One of the coolest engine designs. Wish VW still made them.

    • @BillMalcolm-tn3kq
      @BillMalcolm-tn3kq Месяц назад +4

      Only dropped for the 2024 model year in North America. Could be had in the Atlas until then. VR6 still made for VW China models.

    • @vomitkermit3446
      @vomitkermit3446 Месяц назад

      The replacement for the 3.6 apparently will be a turboed version.

    • @hotdog9262
      @hotdog9262 Месяц назад +1

      yup. i5 sound even better tho

  • @mnewln1800
    @mnewln1800 Месяц назад +72

    The Corrado was one of the coolest cars VW ever made.

    • @gregsalerno1434
      @gregsalerno1434 Месяц назад +3

      A very sexy car for sure !

    • @shadowbanned69
      @shadowbanned69 Месяц назад +3

      Damn str8

    • @peterpeter5666
      @peterpeter5666 Месяц назад +2

      they used to advertise it as a Porsche killer

    • @markcoveryourassets
      @markcoveryourassets Месяц назад +3

      When I got out of school, my first landlord (in his 80s) was considering trading his VW camper van in for one. Impressive looking in the big color brochures they used to make.

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  Месяц назад +28

      I don’t like vw, and I’d own a corrado vr6

  • @zaraak323i
    @zaraak323i Месяц назад +21

    I know you get a comment like this on almost every video you release, but thank you for all you do! I learn a lot from your videos!

  • @gregdiamond6023
    @gregdiamond6023 Месяц назад +21

    Eric, Ì heard you were in Florida helping out after the storm . Good on you! Even if you were just helping out Ray and his family. I know they appreciated it.

  • @DEEuroworks
    @DEEuroworks Месяц назад +59

    Man VR6 is some of the best sounding engine.

  • @markamd1
    @markamd1 Месяц назад +10

    I own a 2015 VW CC 3.6L VR6 4-MOTION and I agree with you, this is one of the best sounding engine ever made in the Auto industry. Iron block built to last. Greetings from Canada.

  • @Kenneth_R
    @Kenneth_R Месяц назад +7

    Its amazing how well this engine is built. Just solid. This was VW's golden age.

  • @undaware
    @undaware Месяц назад +8

    Firing order is 1 5 3 6 2 4. So the whole back bank fires then the whole front bank. Makes a one-two, blurp blurp. Like rocking front to back.

  • @Jeff_Seely
    @Jeff_Seely Месяц назад +14

    These were one of the most interesting and unique piston engine designs with that staggered-v configuration. Man, this teardown rates up there with the Audi V10 video! Thanks Eric for the time, effort, and coin to get this produced!

  • @dmitch1177
    @dmitch1177 Месяц назад +4

    Had a 2004 R32. Finest car I've ever owned. Regret selling it to this day! Loved the car and the group around it.

  • @patrickdunster1083
    @patrickdunster1083 Месяц назад +2

    This is one of the main reasons why I moved South! Very rarely have to deal with rust/corrosion at this level anymore lol
    Great video and tear down!!!

  • @burryhulbertjr1429
    @burryhulbertjr1429 Месяц назад +11

    This is literally one of the best tere downs you have ever done!! I for some reason feel satisfied!! Quarky yes.. but always like many others wanted to see inside of this engine!! Thankyou n God bless!! It is impressive of the actual shape in this motor. Great job

  • @Eurosport.Automotive
    @Eurosport.Automotive Месяц назад +27

    I love this engine. I have 280,000km on mine (bought the car 12 years ago with 90,000km on the clock) and it stills runs great without oil consumption between changes. Did the chains & clutch at 140,000km.

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff Месяц назад +1

      why did you change the chains?

    • @Gaming_with_me
      @Gaming_with_me Месяц назад +2

      @@solderbuff Not sure about these 12 valves but its not uncommon for the chains to have worn or developed a faulty tensioner by 140,00km on the 24 valves. Its also likely that they just needed a clutch and well its not much more effort to do the chains at that point and you'd be really unhappy if the chains went not long after doing the clutch

    • @Eurosport.Automotive
      @Eurosport.Automotive Месяц назад +2

      I knew the chains were a trouble spot on all VR6s. The 12 valve engines were slightly worse than the 24 valve ones in terms of longevity.
      My 12 valve developed a bit of a rattle at certain rpm that sounded like chain slap. Once I tore it down it was clear the upper timing guide was coming apart in almost the same way as the one in the video (broken plastic from eyelet and crack running perpendicular to chain direction in the middle of the guide).

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff Месяц назад

      @@Eurosport.Automotive , ouch, I currently have a rattle in my 2010 car at certain RPMs during acceleration... I guess, time to get rid of the car.

    • @Eurosport.Automotive
      @Eurosport.Automotive Месяц назад

      @@solderbuff 2010, so the 3.6 FSI I assume? Those also had chain issues. I did one for a customer about a year ago and the upper guide rail was about 70% missing. Ended up dropping the oil pan to find the pick up tube jammed full of broken guide material. Lucky we caught it in time before it spun bearings due to lack of oil flow. Mileage was 210,000km

  • @Ccorniit
    @Ccorniit Месяц назад +3

    Nice to see well made engine. No plastic oil pan, timing cover, you name it. No rubberband driven oil pump in oil bath etc.

    • @timessiah94
      @timessiah94 28 дней назад

      Then skip over the plastic timing chain guides that destroyed these motors?

    • @greyskiesrainfallandpeace3006
      @greyskiesrainfallandpeace3006 24 дня назад

      @timessiah94 replace the timing components before you have a guide break and replace your chain with higher tensile strength + metal guides. My R36 broke 2 guides before replacing my chain, and my engine survived with no adverse damage... so i would argue that's impressive

  • @knotical689
    @knotical689 Месяц назад +3

    This was the engine that made me fall in love with VW! Can't wait to drop one in my MK6

  • @richardgagg8588
    @richardgagg8588 Месяц назад +7

    My 1996 Jetta VR6 ate coil packs (Bosch)- every 30,000 miles. Very smooth engine though as it is bacically a straight 6. The offset crank grinding allowed the engine to be shorter and still allowed for just one head shared on the narrow V. Brilliant idea. The W12 in the Bentley is basically two of these melded together. Keep up the entertainment for us.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk Месяц назад

      Needs/needed that Phenix engineering phenolic isolator plate, mine got a new coil back around 2007 and it's working fine with that plate.

  • @heikkiremes5661
    @heikkiremes5661 Месяц назад +23

    "Look at that. Perfect. No damage." snip-snip!
    That is why I love this channel.

  • @amhainen
    @amhainen Месяц назад +36

    I still laugh when you go to remove the hose clamp EVEN THOUGH I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO CUT ✂ THE HOSE!😂

    • @jackc5293
      @jackc5293 Месяц назад +2

      He cut a different hose than the one he took the clamp off of which made it even more infuriating

    • @koolautosport
      @koolautosport 4 дня назад

      I laughed hard when I saw exactly the same :")

  • @carlosponchio1869
    @carlosponchio1869 Месяц назад +6

    Bought my son a 2003 GTI VR6 and I enjoyed driving that car a lot. it was fun. he had the car but every chance I had, I loved to drive it.

  • @thomasrowell6569
    @thomasrowell6569 Месяц назад +7

    Excellent video as always. I keep coming back for more of your antics it's such good therapy and the knowledge that you share is so interesting. I look forward to seeing the next one. Thank you Eric

  • @unrubbablepennies8185
    @unrubbablepennies8185 Месяц назад +14

    As the owner of a 2002 Golf Vr5 in the UK, I can tell you the "WOOKIE" noise never gets old. People mainly criticise the lack of factory HP from these engines compared to other similar 4/6 cylinders from that era but on the other side, there wasn't an engine that sounded as good.

    • @keenandolan8420
      @keenandolan8420 Месяц назад

      Was there a vr5 in the US?

    • @unrubbablepennies8185
      @unrubbablepennies8185 Месяц назад

      No, the US got a 2.5 straight 5 not a 2.3 vr5. The 4 cylinder 1.8 20v turbo was more popular, mainly due to its tuning potential. ​@@keenandolan8420

  • @SmogelpoT
    @SmogelpoT Месяц назад +6

    I had a red 92 Corrado with a VR6. Blew a hole through the bell housing and the side of the transmission trying to do a burnout with brand new tires. I was a teenager and dumb.
    Interestingly enough a friend at my highschool also had one. However he had stripped his 3rd gear synchros. So I bought his transmission and Frankensteined them together using his case and differential And my gearset. Sold it shortly after but it was a really fun car to drive.

  • @JohnD6280
    @JohnD6280 Месяц назад +8

    A legendary VW engine! It's even better with a giant turbo on it!

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y Месяц назад +3

      I was just thinking that, I remember folk bolting on T30 or even T35 sized turbos with no other upgrades apart from a tune and it somehow working rather than turning into a flock of flying con-rods 👀😆
      And for the 12v guys a set of cams were cheap, well compared to the 24v guys or people with mad quad cam V6 from other manufacturers from the time. A quick cam change turned it into a absolute animal, barking at you every time you looked at the throttle
      There’s a lot to be said for this big old cast engine blocks :)

    • @russelljacob7955
      @russelljacob7955 Месяц назад

      ​@@mor4yWeak point is differential rivets. Engine itself for boosting is the factory intake popping from boost on the plastic one. But if one knows engines and VR, the bottom end is built like a diesel. Big head bolts, seven main caps, the oiling. Can see where a fuel manifold and pump would be driven.

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y Месяц назад

      @@russelljacob7955 years ago I remember people mixing up parts from a 1.8 golf engine, the 2.0gti and something out the 1.9 vw/audi engine that went in the audi 80 or 100, maybe some original sciroccos too?
      You made a home built stroker engine, and I think the crank you ended up using was a better unit than the original gti one that suffered from mass production issues
      I was working in a scrapyard at that time, anytime a scirocco or old audi came in all the golf guys decended on us to see what was under the bonnet!
      I scrapped a lot of alfa romeos back then, I had tons of sets of twin downdraft and sidedraft 40,45 and even 48 delorto Italian carbs, used to fit them onto anything we could sort of jam them onto then rally them around till the engine blew, good times lol 😆

  • @xXxDETZxXx
    @xXxDETZxXx Месяц назад +4

    I had a 01 Jetta GLX about 4 years ago. Sold it and just bought another 01 GLX. Same options manual VR6 sunroof, monsoon audio. I was going to ask for a VR6 but was certain you wouldn't get your hands on one. Thanks Eric.

  • @seancollins9745
    @seancollins9745 Месяц назад +16

    The vr6 is actually a very cool little engine

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад

      It's a huge engine by European standards! The basic engine in a Golf is a 1.0L nowadays.

  • @edgarcornette6387
    @edgarcornette6387 Месяц назад +6

    never seen one of these before ... and without you I would never have .. so THANK YOU for spending the time finding these strange and wonderful motors and such .. LOVE YA BROTHER.

  • @xOGKuSh
    @xOGKuSh Месяц назад +17

    About 8-9yrs ago I had a VW Jetta with this engine. Was in my early 20s and broke, great times. This engine was a ton of fun until it developed a very very bad misfire[check engine light would flash on acceleration], then one day on my way to work I went to give it gas and it didn't seem to want to go so I floored it and yeah the engine took off and made a bang and it was done.

    • @GregoryGlessnerViolin
      @GregoryGlessnerViolin Месяц назад +2

      I did kind of the same thing to a Chevy 4.3 vortec. It wasn't misfiring, but it was way down on power for a few days. I floored it one day, and when I stopped at a red light a couple miles later, the engine became its own knock knock joke.

    • @xOGKuSh
      @xOGKuSh Месяц назад

      @GregoryGlessnerViolin Yeah mine was bad bad, it had been missing like that for a good six months or so and i just kept driving it. It was way way down on power by the end of it. When it blew up it wouldn't start anymore, just made awful banging sounds if you tried to crank it. Way too expensive of a car to own when you're that young and don't have much money and at the time I also didn't know much about cars.

    • @nicholaskasolosungweashikk4053
      @nicholaskasolosungweashikk4053 Месяц назад

      You wanted to give an Italian tune to a sick motor, sorry it died

    • @xOGKuSh
      @xOGKuSh Месяц назад

      @@nicholaskasolosungweashikk4053 no lol, I knew it was on its last leg and ready to let go at any moment lol

  • @rma7921
    @rma7921 Месяц назад +1

    Had a 2001 vr6 jetta, wife loved it but it was finicky. Engine was built tough but holy cow it required so much maintenance. Had to change out the entire coolant system hoses/ thermostat housing/ radiator.... ignition coil would keep arcing. Wife busted the oil pan on a curb and i accidently ran it when the coolant drained out, changed out some parts and she was good to go. I haven't bought a vw since...

  • @dopefrancis1791
    @dopefrancis1791 Месяц назад +4

    Thank you so much for getting your hands on one of these! I owned a 2001 gti vr6 and commented over a year about seeing this on the channel. I since rebuilt the engine put in cams and sold it for some profit but I really wanna buy another in nicer shape cuz I have NEVER heard an engine sound that good with just a resonator delete. THANK YOU AGAIN ❤

  • @jerimiah771
    @jerimiah771 Месяц назад +2

    I got a 2018 vw passat gt with the 3.6 vr6 and it just hit 192k still running strong

  • @geepeerces
    @geepeerces Месяц назад +7

    very cool to see the innards of a VR6. I never owned a Vr6, just I4 VWs (last one being a 1989 Jetta), but for some reason I thought the VR6 had a 'bent' head surface, I did not realize they had a flat head gasket, and used sloped pistons to 'fake' it.

    • @martin-vv9lf
      @martin-vv9lf Месяц назад

      fly cutters are unable to handle acute angles. they would be able to do a block, but not a head. with a narrow v like these the head gasket would blow at the valley. I'm actually surprised no manufacturer has made a vr3. it should be more reliable than the siamesed inline 3s we have that blow the head gasket between the cylinders.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk Месяц назад

      With the flat head surface, it's got more in common with their diesels.

    • @EddySigfried
      @EddySigfried Месяц назад

      This engine seemed to have more or less flat topped pistons that simply did not reach the top of the bores except at one point, though I may be wrong as it wasn't obvious. The later engines that I am more familiar with use pistons with the crown at an angle that matches the V angle so they do go all the way all round, with a bowl in the piston. Obviously this limits the swapping of pistons between the various versions of the engine with different angles. The 2.8 and 2.9 are at I think 12.5degrees, the 3.2 and 3.6 at 10.5 degrees, and the 3.6 has a different offset between the cylinders, presumably to cater for the enlarged bore, though interestingly the engines are identical in outwards shape and size so a 3.6 can usually be a direct drop in to a car that came with a 3.2 like all the R32 Golfs. Dropping in a 3.6 can make quite a difference, going from 250 to 296 HP stock.

  • @russelljacob7955
    @russelljacob7955 Месяц назад +1

    Second owner of a 2001 VR6 GTI here. I look forward to this vid. Had mine since 2004 and just rebuilt engine after rod bearing issue. Rarest of them. Mojave beige with tan leather! I cannot wait to watch!

  • @DavidGragg82
    @DavidGragg82 Месяц назад +4

    The heads are set up like the GM 348/409. The piston is the combustion chamber. Neat.

  • @42Goopy42
    @42Goopy42 Месяц назад +5

    My parents just bought a 3.6 vr6 passat. The thing is dope. Cool engine, and this one is in good shape. Car is no slouch to be sure.

    • @ZacDynasty
      @ZacDynasty Месяц назад +1

      Yea the 280 hp one, i got one too, 2015 love leather and Alcantara seats with wood trim and a dash analog clock, i feel luxurious haha

    • @42Goopy42
      @42Goopy42 Месяц назад

      @ZacDynastynno no kidding the interior is fantastic!

  • @donaldvincent
    @donaldvincent Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for bringing us this very interesting engine. All of my 40+ years of experience has been exclusively domestic & Japanese. This one really kept me glued to the video.

  • @JK-dp3lp
    @JK-dp3lp Месяц назад +2

    Had an 02 jetta VR6 auto, bought in 04 28k miles, loved that car! Loved it so much I went past the dealer about a year or so later and saw an 03 6 speed bought that too, back when cars were more reasonably priced.

  • @ryangener90
    @ryangener90 Месяц назад +4

    I had a mk4 gti with a rusty vr6 too! 24v valve but I loved that thing. Still had plenty get up for a pretty heavy car. Loved that sound too!

  • @mateosanchez4623
    @mateosanchez4623 Месяц назад +1

    Thumps up even before the intro. Thats an engine we all have been waiting for, and thanks that you listened to the crowd.

  • @Markingfoil320
    @Markingfoil320 Месяц назад +22

    Speaking of weird Volkswagen engines you should do a W12

  • @grahamrowe6278
    @grahamrowe6278 Месяц назад

    A very long time ago I lusted after a B3 Passat Estate with that engine. Could never find one. Then, years later found a good one when I had no reason to own one! I learned a lot from the teardown.

  • @MrTheHillfolk
    @MrTheHillfolk Месяц назад +3

    As long as you remember VW wanted to have a 6 cylinder that would fit in place of a 4 cylinder, that's why there is some compromises.
    The old 12 valves don't flow as good as people think, they're actually kind of restricted. Forget about spending money on cams and stuff like that to make a naturally aspirated one fast, just go straight to the turbo.
    Love my AFP ive had since 2001.
    Shes got 143k on the clock, i had the engine out around 130k to deal with the timing chains.
    I dreaded that job ,but it wasnt bad at all.
    Definitely remove the pan to get all the chain guide pieces out.

    • @goratgo1970
      @goratgo1970 Месяц назад

      Same deal for my '99 Jetta 5 speed. Got it for $1,300 from junk yard - no one wanted to deal with stretched chain. Had it towed to shop, figured cost still worth having since has Borbet wheels, etc. Has 143k, got sideswiped by BMW & settlement paid for chain job so back to $1,300! Have to wind it up at least 4 grand to get power, but great commuter...

    • @EddySigfried
      @EddySigfried Месяц назад +1

      I believe that the older 12V engines had some interesting ECU programming to deal with the differing inlet and exhaust lengths, including varying amounts of fuel per cylinder to even out the power per cylinder at different rev levels. The later 24V 3.2 and 3.6 I think have inlets designed to be of equal length with a variable flap for low/high speed. That is the "near" side inlets have an extension outside the head to match up the lengths, these are also Direct Injection engines so are a little easier to manage for this. The high performance 3.6 is a 221Kw (300 PS, 296 HP) but wasn't to my knowledge released in the USA which only had a 280HP version. Other markets had an "R36" version of the Passat (2006-2010) with the 296 HP and a range of special trim and other extras. The same engine went into Passats from 2011-2015 but without the trim and R36 badging. Brilliant "sleeper" especially as an Estate/Wagon, 0-100kmph in 5.8 seconds and pretty decent handling for what is reasonably large and heavy machine. Have one myself !

    • @goratgo1970
      @goratgo1970 Месяц назад

      @EddySigfried Well would one easily replace the anemic VR6 in my Mk4 Jetta 5 speed?

  • @St8ks
    @St8ks Месяц назад +3

    just wanted to say i hope you are feeling better mate, hopefully whatever you have is at the end.

  • @catchiestzero
    @catchiestzero Месяц назад

    I maintained a vr6 for nearly a quarter of a century--this brought back memories, thanks for posting!
    PS. a tip, if I may share, for corroded fastner heads, the hammering of the socket is a great idea, but also a nuisance when you want to take the socket off afterwards. Two tricks that usually work: hold the socket with the fastner in hand and hammer the backend. Momentum forces the fastner to move away. If this fails, thread the fastner/bolt back on and torque with impact. This typically helps even the most stuck on socket/hex break away easily...

  • @goosedeathable
    @goosedeathable Месяц назад +3

    Got a neighbor down the street who has a turbo corrado VR6, built up. He claims 800hp. Supposedly made some car mag cover too. Never looked into it. If I remember correctly.
    A buddy was trying to sell me on a mk2 GTI I think it was w/ a VR6 swap. Took it for a test drive. Quick little car.

  • @mrdufenshmirtz1139
    @mrdufenshmirtz1139 Месяц назад +2

    i love engines that look like that. everyone avoids them because of their looks, but 9 times out of 10 - its mint on the inside.
    and they are dirt cheap

  • @ronnymb67
    @ronnymb67 Месяц назад +17

    Finally! Now you've got to get a hold of a W8!!

    • @kclefthanded427
      @kclefthanded427 Месяц назад +5

      It's a very long shot but anything is possible

    • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks Месяц назад +2

      W12 might be more possible, considering how many of those are out there... You can ask Tavarish about that

    • @ronnymb67
      @ronnymb67 Месяц назад +2

      @@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      Humble Mechanic tore down a W8 sometime ago. I like Charles, but he just doesn't have Eric's flare while doing it lol

    • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks Месяц назад

      @@ronnymb67 didn't even know w8 engines existed. the 15 degree V is rare enough, but then you put another bank next to that.... yeah, sounds like it's more optimized for much larger cylinder counts, rather then 2 banks of vr4s, though i know VR4's are a thing, especially in like motorcycles.

    • @ronnymb67
      @ronnymb67 Месяц назад +2

      @@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      I had one. 2003 Passat W8 with a 6 speed manual - 1 of 432 ever imported with the 6spd.

  • @tedboggs4569
    @tedboggs4569 14 дней назад

    Had a 2000 Jetta JLX VR6. Traded it in after 18k miles after so many problems, including the water pump at 8K, PCM problems causing engine to go into limp mode that took 6 visits to the dealer to fix, and transmission problems that caused it to be stuck in park for about 30 minutes after starting in the cold. Since it only had 2-year/24k mile warranty, we decided to dump it before it cost us a lot of money. Luckily, we weren't under water on the load since they were still very popular then. Got a Mazda Protege to replace it and never had a singe problem with it.

  • @MP-po6fj
    @MP-po6fj Месяц назад +3

    They called that vr6 the egg box engine.
    Was developed to get into a small engine bay.
    Iconic sound.
    Often wondered why they didn't turbo charge it.
    Worked on them in a vw dealer at 1998 at 22 years old.

    • @Teasa617
      @Teasa617 Месяц назад +4

      Then they finally turbocharged it at the end of its production and gave it to china, smh.

  • @jettaglsvr6
    @jettaglsvr6 Месяц назад +1

    I used to own one of these - 2000 Jetta GLS 5-speed with the AFP 2.8 VR6. Lasted over 188K miles with no major issues whatsoever, aside from coil packs going bad and flaky MAF sensors (the gearbox was another story). Great engine, miss that VR6 GROWL

  • @donniev8181
    @donniev8181 Месяц назад +2

    Those valves may be the cleanest valves I've seen on your channel so far, extremely clean.

  • @josepeixoto3384
    @josepeixoto3384 25 дней назад

    **GREAT..*
    An idea: when you are removing a cover, manifold, pulley, etc... especially with 2 dowels, use TWO PRY BARS placed symmetrically, no need to see you fighting over and over to remove Aluminum covers with only one pry bar, when the covers are on TWO 1/2 inch dowels, placed on either side,especially when one has rust, like in the LEAF you did; 2 screwdrivers or pry bars will ease it out (ex-Jag mechanic here--Newark NJ...)

  • @bilinda508
    @bilinda508 Месяц назад +9

    Very cool engine. Never seen one with head off. Tks!

  • @killingtonsnowboarde
    @killingtonsnowboarde Месяц назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @wickertwm
    @wickertwm Месяц назад +3

    I appreciate the VR6.
    Thanks Eric!

  • @JossRickard
    @JossRickard Месяц назад +2

    A magnificent engineering solution to a question nobody asked

  • @stephenmeeks684
    @stephenmeeks684 Месяц назад +4

    It was so nice they provided those two bolt removal holes on the pan.

  • @SamTurpin-fn9ge
    @SamTurpin-fn9ge 27 дней назад +1

    My Volkswagen T4 Bus from 2001 has a 5-cylinder-2,5 Liter TDI engine with 105 horsepowers. Immortal, if you give him Oil, water and a drive belt change every 120.000km. My wifes brother sold such a bus with 400.000km, no repair ever at the engine

  • @samholdsworth420
    @samholdsworth420 Месяц назад +3

    FINALLY! Eric, You're the man now dawg!

  • @xvdd1
    @xvdd1 Месяц назад +1

    An interesting engine design which goes all the way back to 1922 when Lancia produced their first narrow angle V4 they continued to turn them out until 1976, angles ranged from 10 degrees through 11, 13 and 20 degrees.

  • @Jamk14
    @Jamk14 Месяц назад +3

    Building a vr30 rn ( 3.2 with 2.8 crank) going in my b5 s4
    Love a vr6
    And yes they are v6's
    15° v

  • @davidetchellsetchells4692
    @davidetchellsetchells4692 Месяц назад +1

    Ps. I am a vw water cooled and air cooled fan boy, that's right!😂😂😂 they are amazing engines and I've had fantastic luck with them, especially the inline 4 engines. I've put over 300,000 hard miles on the 1.7/ 1.8/ 2.0 24 valve engines, the only weak point was the timing belt, but if you use a quality timing belt and replace between 60,000 and 100,000 you're normally golden on these engines. Don't know alot about the vr6 but it looks like a well engineered engine as I would expect from the VW group. Always over built, always high quality alloys, and great reliable engines! Never use cheap coolant in these engines! This is what kills them more than anything! It destroys the head gaskets and corrodes all the coolant passages impeding coolant flow creating Hotspot and warping.

    • @michaelathens953
      @michaelathens953 22 дня назад

      They're super reliable in my experience as long as they get regular maintenance and a little TLC here and there. Like anything though neglect will doom them pretty quickly.

  • @dannygernaat9961
    @dannygernaat9961 Месяц назад +3

    I loved my old VR6, that sounds was awesome❤

  • @hazzard8760
    @hazzard8760 Месяц назад +1

    Here in the UK I have the Golf R32 Mk5 3.2litre VR6..This will be interesting... on one service a VAG (Volkswagen Audi) dealer managed to cross thread a plug as its such a long way down but sorted it..

  • @bryanbernart439
    @bryanbernart439 Месяц назад +11

    Corrado VR6. My favorite car, and I've had a bunch. The engine is a marvel.

  • @MultiRevolve
    @MultiRevolve Месяц назад

    I'm building one of these exact AFP motors, today is actually my first start! We're doing a turbo setup with a GT35, built head, and some other goodies. The AFP engine is a fantastic engine when cared for, the ONLY real issue is that doing a timing job requires transmission removal but you only need to do that every 120k miles or so.

  • @JimmyMakingitwork
    @JimmyMakingitwork Месяц назад +16

    When I first saw these in the shop I couldn't understand why they'd do something so unusual. But I knew if it was a valid reason and not a gimmick they'd be around for a long long time. They weren't. But still pretty cool.

    • @richolishis94
      @richolishis94 Месяц назад +9

      Vr6 still made to this day in brand new vw atlas. Thr vr6 never died. Just moved into new vehicles. No small chassis sports cars anymore.

    • @vumba1331
      @vumba1331 Месяц назад +3

      Lancia started this sort of narrow angle vee engines with their V4, very compact motor, wonderful engine note!

    • @juancarlosmorales6775
      @juancarlosmorales6775 Месяц назад

      @@richolishis94 The current Audi Q6, and VW Talagon use the VR6 24. Not bad for an engine that debuted in 1991 -> 2024

    • @calebyarbrough4621
      @calebyarbrough4621 Месяц назад +3

      Most "V6" Volkswagens are actually vr6s though, that's just too much marketing for the average consumer

    • @MSWMSW1
      @MSWMSW1 Месяц назад +1

      @@vumba1331 Lancia actually made several different narrow angle v4s and even v8s starting in 1922...Over a decade before VW even existed yet.

  • @hybridt
    @hybridt День назад

    Mounting 12v on a stand always use the rear motor mounting placement it saves you from dealing with not having access to the lower timing chain. Also eveyone who has ever torn apart an vr6 from the first time will always say "that's never happened to me before" or "that's different"

  • @dil6969
    @dil6969 Месяц назад +4

    I'm not a big VW guy at all, but my favorite things to ever come out of VW is the VR6 power plant and the MK7/7.5 GTI. It's too bad they never came together from the factory.

  • @oldcivicjoe9069
    @oldcivicjoe9069 Месяц назад +1

    Been waiting 2 years for this one! One of the very few VW engines that's not a boxer 4 I would want to play with.

  • @panagiotisharos9625
    @panagiotisharos9625 Месяц назад +5

    Regards from Athens Greece..😊

  • @alexms1993
    @alexms1993 Месяц назад +2

    Got two corrado vr6s near me. I don't care for VW at all but they're cool as hell and make a magical noise

  • @nickloh912
    @nickloh912 Месяц назад +3

    Took me a bit to get the joke on the shirt, that’s pretty clever… 😂 Now you need to find a W engine to tear down!

    • @dans_Learning_Curve
      @dans_Learning_Curve Месяц назад

      Totally missed it! Gonna have to watch again! LoL 🤣😆

  • @VeiLofCognition
    @VeiLofCognition Месяц назад

    I had 2 12v vr6 cars, second one i did underdrives, lightweight flywheel, tune, exhaust, and boy was it a sleeper in its day. Embarrassed alot of fast and furious looking cars in Penn. and Ga.!!! Sounded amazing whith the quiet-ish exhaust.

  • @jackcaldwell485
    @jackcaldwell485 Месяц назад +11

    If I give you a 14 liter Detroit, would you want to see if uncle " Rodney " is bouncing around in the compression palace ? 😅 it has a very nice viewing port on the side of the block, just courious is all 😅😅😅😅

    • @misterperfcet
      @misterperfcet Месяц назад +7

      Send it to him, I want to see him pull the packs

  • @gryfandjane
    @gryfandjane Месяц назад +2

    Good one, Eric. Back in the day I owned a ‘98 GTI with the VR6. What a sweet engine… I really enjoyed driving that car. You can only imagine what it would be like to tear down a W16. 😬

  • @RS-vu3df
    @RS-vu3df Месяц назад +3

    Nice video again, but please as a European I am offended by the title; a VR6 is certainly not a crazy idea. By the way, the marvelous Lancia engineers introduced the narrow angle V4 in....1922 ! So this crazy idea survived a century.

  • @rendszer2307
    @rendszer2307 Месяц назад +2

    Love this thing. And the VR5.

  • @RogerM88
    @RogerM88 Месяц назад +11

    This is an engine that is definitely worth it, to save the water pump.

  • @markcollins457
    @markcollins457 Месяц назад +2

    I never had any dealings with the VR6 but the sound is enough to get into trouble.😊
    The VR5 is kind of interesting but mechanically scary just the same.

  • @bigoledave5718
    @bigoledave5718 Месяц назад +11

    You found my boat anchor! I do need the waterpump back at least!

  • @renchjeep
    @renchjeep Месяц назад +1

    Good stuff, Eric. Thanks! But I gotta say....those are allen head bolts! Hex head bolts are your standard hardware. Anyway, enough criticism. I had heard that those VR-6 engines had a bit of a head gasket issue, but maybe that was just gossip. I always thought they were a pretty cool design, like a very compact V6. Take care, man! And stay cool always.

  • @Freighttrain-yd4fz
    @Freighttrain-yd4fz Месяц назад +3

    Holy crap a vr6!!!!!

  • @computerelik
    @computerelik Месяц назад

    owned two of these 12v, it stole my heart! thanks for the video!!!

  • @SolamenteVees
    @SolamenteVees Месяц назад +3

    Rusty Block is my stage name.

  • @ryanbernard5287
    @ryanbernard5287 Месяц назад +1

    I'm not a big VW person, but the vr6 was just really cool. Glad to see a teardown of one

  • @BrakRulesAll
    @BrakRulesAll Месяц назад +3

    I've owned 3 of them Fantastic motors. Bulletproof bottom end. And the best side benefit of all - absolutely glorious sound, rivaling supercar noises.

  • @markpinther9296
    @markpinther9296 Месяц назад +1

    Living in the snow belt, I am just used to spraying all fasteners with wd40 first before removal. Then they dont stick inside the socket. Lugs too. :)
    Great video sir!

    • @nooooooooooo6uoki67
      @nooooooooooo6uoki67 Месяц назад

      try using old atf/acetone in a 50/50 mix next time for really bad stuff. Shake before use and if you apply overnight and let it seep in before removing em it will be loads easier than wd40. Just takes time and its awful for your health lol

  • @RogerM88
    @RogerM88 Месяц назад +7

    Was watching UFC, and thinking Abus Magomedov looked like your lost Dagestani twin.

  • @bradenmcg
    @bradenmcg Месяц назад

    As a VW nerd, I chuckled every time you talked about front & rear, because like 75% of the use of these was transverse so it's all left/right ;)

  • @TheLoneJourney88
    @TheLoneJourney88 9 дней назад

    I rebuilt one of these for my MK3 GTI way long ago, awesome motor and sound amazing!

  • @bitterbitterbitter
    @bitterbitterbitter Месяц назад +2

    NOTHING beats that engine sound with an open filter

  • @jeremymcauliff8485
    @jeremymcauliff8485 Месяц назад +2

    I had the 3.6 liter version in a 2007 Audi Q7. I must admit, that engine did have a fantastic sound.