Fascinating stuff. Yes, the commentary and the images are riddled with inaccuracies, and there does seem to be a good deal of confusion between rallying and racing, but the idea is basically cool and you do get to see some rare footage: when was the last time you saw a DAF, a Chrysler 180 or an FSO Polonez? Spotting the anomalies is good for the brain, too - excellent anti-alzheimer exercise. I love these vids: they combine a happy dose of nostalgia with some mental exercise and a new outlook on the sport and motoring culture of my youth. Just don’t believe everything you hear or see, and enjoy doing a bit more research on anything that interests you if you want to get a truer picture. Fun!
This brought back memories! You briefly mention the Moscovitch rally car of the early mid 70's. I was around when a certain well known UK tuning firm were engaged to produce a rally capable car from two standard very basic road hacks. Done very hush hush as the Russians clearly wanted to later claim the result was all their own work. When the time came to close the project and present the contract data, the Russians insisted on the cars being returned, which was abnormal. They were told the cars had been trashed in final testing, yet they still insisted. The word went out to ensure that what was returned was as "cosmetically tired" as had been told to them. One was driven so hard it was rolled, but it did take deliberately entering a deep wide field ditch at speed and the right angle to trip it up. They got their two wrecks back as demanded. Possibly they are still in use as tractors today?! Happy now far off days!
It was imported to Australia and called the Chrysler Centura. It was a French flop with the front heavy 4.0-litre "245" Hemi six, it had the grace and balance of a bull in a trotting gig!!
You could have chosen better pictures to go with the commentary. For instance why show an Austin Mini instead of the Rootes Hillman Imp given the context of the video? Poor.
When talking of Marian Bublewicz, one of the POLONEZ drivers: one picture shows mazda 323 actualy 2 generations later after the one he drove. But in fact this was the fastest 4WD car in Poland in late '80. Second fast was Renault 11 Turbo with 1.4 engine generating just 140 bhp ! Polonez itself was known only in the eastern block of countries because could't get homologation to compete in Europe due to insufficient amount of ready made cars. Bublewicz became an icon of Polish motorsport anyway taking 2-nd position in European Rally Championship in 1992.
Where did you get all this information as much of it is nothing more than fairy-tails. The Avenger body shell was twice as rigid as that of the Ford Escort and if it had been given the financial backup similar to that of Ford it would have been the best rally car of its day! It was no heavier than the Escort in standard trim! The original Tiger version was to be fitted with the Westlake designed H120 engine boosted with twin Weber carbs as fitted to the Hillman Hunter that win the London to Sydney rally!
I've built a Lada 2107 with VFTS body kit, roll cage and turbo engine. It's pretty capable even now due to its low weight in comparison to the modern cars.
The Lada was only a Fiat 124 with thicker steel in all the panels to lighten them the easiest way was to use Fiat original ones while not loosing any strength due to better quality steel. All the suspension components were as the original 124, which was a very good handling vehicle!
The DAF's used a Renault Cléon engine as power units, standard 1108 cc, but enlarged to 1300 cc in Gordini form. These engines were widely used in cars and it was the engine used for the Renault R8 and the R8 Gordini where Monsieur Gordini had tuned the R8 engine. The DAF's engines were linked to the Gordini power units. DAF also competed with a team in the 1968 London - Sydney marathon where they finished.
Brunza forgot 4link and coilovers at rear. I Have built gr f 2105 with 4links diskbr reear biilst covers and It Works brunza was playing with alum and plex. No vetopito sory
I remember the stunning DAF 555 but didn't know that it had a FWD system based on the Variomatic. As for the Chrysler 160 and 180 they were famous for dissolving in the UK. They were rare as they just couldn't compete with the Ford Cortina and were underpowered. I remember a blue on near my home in the NE of England that disappeared after under a year after being driven in the hard winter we used to have, and I mean that it rotted completely away!
The Chrysler 180 was only a development of the original Hillman Avenger which was an in-house design at the Rootes Group head quarters in Coventry! I was in the design studio at the time, working on the Imp Updates and the Arrow models! I Also made minor contributions to the Avenger The future Chrysler Sunbeam was a shortened version of the Avengers floor pan and suspension! The base model having a modified version of the IMP engine. Roy Axe left Rootes to go to Opel in Germany to design the Kadett, prior to moving to Peugeot! Then he moved back to the UK & took control of the BMC/Leyland group design team!
Now that's interesting. I'd been aware of a large degree of similarity between the Avenger and the 180, but it makes sense that slightly widening and lengthening an existing body might work - or might not. Worth a try though. I'd always liked the 180, no matter what history says about it. The Avenger was definitely the car that Chrysler should have put all their rally effort into, it was just better.
I don't know which is funnier, the fact that you use photos of Alfa Romeo Giulia to illustrate Chrysler, or that you claim low fuel warning light 'an advanced feature' when it's no different than a light switch activated by the very same buoy that allowed the gauge to read the level, and it was a standard feature in many cars at least since the 1960s.
What a fake. Tells us about a Lada modified in Lithuania. What he shows are: 9 different models of the many, many Hungarian modified for rallye Ladas, 2 civilian Ladas one with a German registration plate and the other with a post soviet Lithuanian one. In fact we see a lot of Hungarian Ladas but not a single Lithuanian rally car.
The Lada was nothing else than the Fiat 124 produced under licence and the engine was the famous "bialbero" twin cam the will equipe the 124 spider and after the 124 Abarth.
Indeed you're wrong. Lada, even the VFTS used Fiat deveoped single overhead cam, and it was different to Fiat 124 by increased thickness of steel used for making the bodyshell.
Even the Polonez was a Polish Fiat or Polski Fiat ...............The DAF .....was great in rallying ...????...what ...?????it only competed in small local country side rallies ...and still could not perform ......!!!...Dutch engineering ...???.....LOL ...That is a joke ..!!!!
@@kingalfred3902 Not perform? 10 second penalty and stil winning look British Rallycross 1972 Jan de Rooy and Harry de Rooy DAF 55 Coupe off road racing old film.
Fascinating stuff. Yes, the commentary and the images are riddled with inaccuracies, and there does seem to be a good deal of confusion between rallying and racing, but the idea is basically cool and you do get to see some rare footage: when was the last time you saw a DAF, a Chrysler 180 or an FSO Polonez? Spotting the anomalies is good for the brain, too - excellent anti-alzheimer exercise. I love these vids: they combine a happy dose of nostalgia with some mental exercise and a new outlook on the sport and motoring culture of my youth. Just don’t believe everything you hear or see, and enjoy doing a bit more research on anything that interests you if you want to get a truer picture. Fun!
Lada❤ this Is the 131 Abarth Russky!!
The body of DAF 555 looks like a FIAT 124 spider and skoda S100 got a lovechild
More Skoda 1000 MB🤔🥸
The car(s) shown in 11:33 , 11:42 and 11:47 is(are) Peugeot ; the badge can clearly be seen on the middle of the grills ...
DAF does not mean Dutch Automobile Factory but Van Doorne’s AanhangwagenFabriek (Van Doorne’s Trailer Factory)
That's what bothers you? Hearing it pronounced D.A.F instead of DAF (Duff) was what killed me 😂
This brought back memories! You briefly mention the Moscovitch rally car of the early mid 70's. I was around when a certain well known UK tuning firm were engaged to produce a rally capable car from two standard very basic road hacks. Done very hush hush as the Russians clearly wanted to later claim the result was all their own work. When the time came to close the project and present the contract data, the Russians insisted on the cars being returned, which was abnormal. They were told the cars had been trashed in final testing, yet they still insisted. The word went out to ensure that what was returned was as "cosmetically tired" as had been told to them. One was driven so hard it was rolled, but it did take deliberately entering a deep wide field ditch at speed and the right angle to trip it up. They got their two wrecks back as demanded. Possibly they are still in use as tractors today?! Happy now far off days!
you mean a moskvich/moskvitch or maybe a Zhiguli(Жигули) , all outside the USSR selled as Lada, the Zhiguli is the Fiat 124 Licence product
It was imported to Australia and called the Chrysler Centura. It was a French flop with the front heavy 4.0-litre "245" Hemi six, it had the grace and balance of a bull in a trotting gig!!
AVTOVAZ💪
25:15 Hardi and Udo Mets!
You could have chosen better pictures to go with the commentary. For instance why show an Austin Mini instead of the Rootes Hillman Imp given the context of the video?
Poor.
When talking of Marian Bublewicz, one of the POLONEZ drivers: one picture shows mazda 323 actualy 2 generations later after the one he drove. But in fact this was the fastest 4WD car in Poland in late '80. Second fast was Renault 11 Turbo with 1.4 engine generating just 140 bhp ! Polonez itself was known only in the eastern block of countries because could't get homologation to compete in Europe due to insufficient amount of ready made cars. Bublewicz became an icon of Polish motorsport anyway taking 2-nd position in European Rally Championship in 1992.
Where did you get all this information as much of it is nothing more than fairy-tails. The Avenger body shell was twice as rigid as that of the Ford Escort and if it had been given the financial backup similar to that of Ford it would have been the best rally car of its day! It was no heavier than the Escort in standard trim! The original Tiger version was to be fitted with the Westlake designed H120 engine boosted with twin Weber carbs as fitted to the Hillman Hunter that win the London to Sydney rally!
I've built a Lada 2107 with VFTS body kit, roll cage and turbo engine. It's pretty capable even now due to its low weight in comparison to the modern cars.
The Lada was only a Fiat 124 with thicker steel in all the panels to lighten them the easiest way was to use Fiat original ones while not loosing any strength due to better quality steel. All the suspension components were as the original 124, which was a very good handling vehicle!
The DAF's used a Renault Cléon engine as power units, standard 1108 cc, but enlarged to 1300 cc in Gordini form. These engines were widely used in cars and it was the engine used for the Renault R8 and the R8 Gordini where Monsieur Gordini had tuned the R8 engine. The DAF's engines were linked to the Gordini power units. DAF also competed with a team in the 1968 London - Sydney marathon where they finished.
daf 55 my first car😊
The most powerfull wersion of FSO was Polonez 2000 turbo! Three door version. ( There was only one 5 door of it)
Brunza forgot 4link and coilovers at rear. I Have built gr f 2105 with 4links diskbr reear biilst covers and It Works brunza was playing with alum and plex. No vetopito sory
I remember the stunning DAF 555 but didn't know that it had a FWD system based on the Variomatic. As for the Chrysler 160 and 180 they were famous for dissolving in the UK. They were rare as they just couldn't compete with the Ford Cortina and were underpowered. I remember a blue on near my home in the NE of England that disappeared after under a year after being driven in the hard winter we used to have, and I mean that it rotted completely away!
Im Teil über den Chrysler 180 sind einige Bilder eines Peugeot 504
And a Citroen estate!
The Chrysler 180 was only a development of the original Hillman Avenger which was an in-house design at the Rootes Group head quarters in Coventry! I was in the design studio at the time, working on the Imp Updates and the Arrow models! I Also made minor contributions to the Avenger The future Chrysler Sunbeam was a shortened version of the Avengers floor pan and suspension! The base model having a modified version of the IMP engine.
Roy Axe left Rootes to go to Opel in Germany to design the Kadett, prior to moving to Peugeot! Then he moved back to the UK & took control of the BMC/Leyland group design team!
Now that's interesting. I'd been aware of a large degree of similarity between the Avenger and the 180, but it makes sense that slightly widening and lengthening an existing body might work - or might not. Worth a try though.
I'd always liked the 180, no matter what history says about it.
The Avenger was definitely the car that Chrysler should have put all their rally effort into, it was just better.
I'd daily drive it!
I don't know which is funnier, the fact that you use photos of Alfa Romeo Giulia to illustrate Chrysler, or that you claim low fuel warning light 'an advanced feature' when it's no different than a light switch activated by the very same buoy that allowed the gauge to read the level, and it was a standard feature in many cars at least since the 1960s.
Also a Peugeot 504 was pictured as a Chrysler
"Random picture of rally car" followed by film of random car being "strengthened" 🙄
That Daf was quite handsome as a coupe though
CVT transmission had problems then.
The DAF variomatic was OK on a dry and dust-free sealed road, otherwise...
BS! the 55 was my first car and i used to take it on dirt road adventures all the time
"RALLYING" NOT4 rally racing
FSO really?
That Chrysler is an Opel all day long.
What a fake. Tells us about a Lada modified in Lithuania. What he shows are: 9 different models of the many, many Hungarian modified for rallye Ladas, 2 civilian Ladas one with a German registration plate and the other with a post soviet Lithuanian one. In fact we see a lot of Hungarian Ladas but not a single Lithuanian rally car.
OMG,please learn pronunciation of Eastern European names, it's an audio insult after insult 😱😱😱
The Lada was nothing else than the Fiat 124 produced under licence and the engine was the famous "bialbero" twin cam the will equipe the 124 spider and after the 124 Abarth.
Indeed you're wrong. Lada, even the VFTS used Fiat deveoped single overhead cam, and it was different to Fiat 124 by increased thickness of steel used for making the bodyshell.
Even the Polonez was a Polish Fiat or Polski Fiat ...............The DAF .....was great in rallying ...????...what ...?????it only competed in small local country side rallies ...and still could not perform ......!!!...Dutch engineering ...???.....LOL ...That is a joke ..!!!!
@@kingalfred3902in my believe Polonez is pure polish design and it is evident from what it looks like .
@@kingalfred3902 Not perform? 10 second penalty and stil winning look British Rallycross 1972 Jan de Rooy and Harry de Rooy DAF 55 Coupe off road racing old film.