I used a 1980s ball mouse in competitive shooters.

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025

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  • @pinguefy
    @pinguefy Месяц назад +218

    rly fun vid, love the music choices!!

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад +7

      :o !!!

    • @ekeromano6399
      @ekeromano6399 Месяц назад +3

      @@Keeahh youre trying to be him so hard

  • @Alexukuru
    @Alexukuru Месяц назад +404

    What my ranked teammates play with:

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад +13

      LOL

    • @Aunoux
      @Aunoux Месяц назад +6

      🤣🤣

    • @trahsh_1005
      @trahsh_1005 Месяц назад +4

      Wait does that means they're actually good?

    • @crescentmoon256
      @crescentmoon256 11 дней назад

      pls change ur profile pic i dont like it

  • @backpackquaker8165
    @backpackquaker8165 Месяц назад +230

    that mouse wasnt made in the 1980s.. it's from 1996. Huuuuuuge difference in mice from the 80s compared to the late 90s, this mouse was actually groundbreaking compared to was on the market at that point of time

    • @richboii6597
      @richboii6597 Месяц назад +9

      Bro I remember when I got the very first Microsoft optical sensor mouse at Costco. It was insane

    • @Gen3DTech
      @Gen3DTech Месяц назад +11

      Correct....I don't recall any of my mice having a scroll wheel in the 80s. My first mouse was a Commodore Tank mouse, and it was a brick compared to that Microsoft mouse. The USB more is also a clue as they did not have USB in the 80s. Before that was PS2 and then before that, serial. I would love to see what they could do with a Tank mouse! I do a wireless remake of the Tank mouse and gaming with it is rough and hurt my hand. Of course when I was using that mouse in the 80s I was not using for FPS games as they did not exist. Games that used mice were often very slow paced.....for a fast paced game you would use a joy stick.

    • @YAAMW
      @YAAMW 29 дней назад +1

      ​@@Gen3DTechNot before that, PS2 coexisted with serial in my country😂

    • @guilgs94
      @guilgs94 20 дней назад

      I remember how 80s mice was, my mother had one and shit, the 90s was waaay better.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 16 дней назад +1

      @@Gen3DTech ps2 was also a 90's thing, 80's only had serial

  • @justmasss4474
    @justmasss4474 Месяц назад +127

    This absolute madlad literally destroyed people online by using a 1980s mouse that literally runs on BALL, a god damn BALL. Imagine getting such an old piece of mouse antiquity, reverse engineering it to understand how the hell it works, then hop on games and pop heads like it's nothing. This guy cooks up every single time some amazing ideas and puts them all togethering in insanely detailed and well crafted videos, this is so underrated.

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад +1

      crazy! ^^

    • @diztinger
      @diztinger Месяц назад +2

      literally

    • @sebbss
      @sebbss 20 дней назад +2

      Really makes you think, if you have aim, you have aim. While having good peripheral helps, raw skill aren't set by what we have.

    • @moto_guy34
      @moto_guy34 18 дней назад

      “They all fall to ball" a quote about colt 45 ammo lol but works for the mouse also lol

    • @tscopo
      @tscopo 15 дней назад

      Less glaze, please.

  • @Incariuz
    @Incariuz 18 дней назад +17

    Oh the days of Unreal Tournament, Quake and Counter Strike on a ball mouse. I do actually miss those days tbh. Competitive gaming felt more fun to me back then, guess I'm getting old.

    • @Bugby
      @Bugby 17 дней назад

      I also experienced all of that.
      Trainings and competitves games weren't "fun" too. It was work !
      Mindsets and global level changed when ranked games appeared directly ingames.

  • @tkjo64
    @tkjo64 Месяц назад +17

    im thankful that ur video got recommended to me on my youtube homepage. keep it up dude!

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад +1

      tysm!!

    • @tkjo64
      @tkjo64 Месяц назад

      @Keeahh alright now we kiss😌

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад +1

      @ **shocked pikachu face**

  • @Mico605
    @Mico605 7 дней назад +1

    This exact mouse and Call of Duty 4 were my childhood and teenage years. The thing weighed as much as an actual gun

  • @therwfer
    @therwfer Месяц назад +10

    You just cleaning the ball, but not the roller thingies made me sad. That's also where most of the noise came from.
    Great video! Cheers, an old person who is glad ball mice are a thing of the past.

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад +2

      yes! sorry about that... I realized it during the final stages of the video. MY BAD! (I still should have mentioned it somehow)

    • @De-M-oN
      @De-M-oN Месяц назад

      @@Keeahh you could edit your videotitle

    • @zedamex
      @zedamex 15 дней назад

      Yeah the amount of times I removed the piled up dirt from the rollers as it was causing them to slip when I was young. I could even see the very memorable dust ring on them and really really wanted to reach through my screen to pull that off. They get quite hard and retain that ring shape after you remove them.
      Absolutely plays a part in tracking not changing direction when you physically do.

  • @GraveUypo
    @GraveUypo 16 дней назад +4

    you clean the rollers, not the ball. gunk quickly forms a crust around the point of contact in the rollers and it builds up into a gross ring that ultimately prevents the rollers from rolling smoothly (or at all if you never clean it). unless you cleaned it, i would assume the mouse "loosing it" with fast movements was because of gunky rollers. that's exactly what it does.

  • @malverde420
    @malverde420 5 дней назад +1

    Very good video man, I love it

  • @Antuca88
    @Antuca88 Месяц назад +8

    It seems like you have to be smooth at all times with this mouse otherwise you just get screwed over. It was fun watching this vid and I hope you get more recognition Keeah!

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад

      yes! you really need to be careful with it, haha. tysm antuca!

    • @troubledin1742
      @troubledin1742 Месяц назад

      Wyd big bro

    • @Antuca88
      @Antuca88 Месяц назад +1

      @@troubledin1742 watching a banger

  • @Aezamki
    @Aezamki Месяц назад +10

    You've got some balls out there, ngl.

  • @OrganicGreens
    @OrganicGreens 3 дня назад +1

    Great video. I actually am old enough to remember playing CS 1.6 with a dell ball mouse. I actually preferred it to a laser mouse for a long time because the feel was so different.

  • @ChildrenOfDesire
    @ChildrenOfDesire Месяц назад +30

    This is a late 1990's/early 2000's Microsoft Intellimouse ball mouse. Microsoft didn't release any scroll wheel mice until 1996, so it's definitely not from the 1980's.

  • @sergie2822
    @sergie2822 9 дней назад +2

    Not only did you have to take the ball out to clean, you had to clean the x and z wheels as well, removing any stuck gunk that the ball picked up... it was such a hassle.

  • @LightSocerGamesBR
    @LightSocerGamesBR 20 дней назад +2

    Awesome, keep it up brother

  • @Amcarius
    @Amcarius Месяц назад +7

    someone took "shape is king" too seriously. nice video!

  • @Inoscentnoaim
    @Inoscentnoaim Месяц назад +4

    again a masterpiece video from u, love watching u, btw i also bought the op18k and the zero mid xxl cause of u thx

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад

      woah... tysm!! I appreciate the support so much!

  • @Y0n3z
    @Y0n3z Месяц назад +1

    Legit your game clips were goat, lol i grew up with those ball mice. There is a charm with using analog equipment, its not always the fastest or best looking. But it will always feel more natural

  • @XDsensei
    @XDsensei Месяц назад +2

    wait, you deserve thousands of views and subs man. the quality of ur vid is great. keep it up :D

  • @loatheria
    @loatheria 5 дней назад +1

    miss those days when we played quake, unreal tournament and halo with my dad and older brother with mouse like this.

  • @WaRn00b85
    @WaRn00b85 15 дней назад +1

    Bro between games: "Guys hang on I just need to clean my mouse's ball real quick."

  • @RavenRedwood
    @RavenRedwood 12 дней назад +1

    Nice 👌
    Btw we didn't have to clean the ball. What got dirty (honestly super gross sometimes) are the two rollers that the ball moves for x and y axis. Those could collect all kinds of crud and even hair. Good times. 😆

  • @seve7nin9e31
    @seve7nin9e31 4 дня назад +1

    it's just like no matter how expensive your car if you'r driving method still bad then you are bad. its not because the mouse made you good its the aim, practice, and timing consequence that make you better.

  • @ArimaSenne1
    @ArimaSenne1 Месяц назад +8

    eh quake pros used these for awhile, technically not so bad since its close to 1:1 tracking everybody just switched to optical because the intellimouse optical was so cracked

  • @VoltaReviews
    @VoltaReviews Месяц назад +2

    Awesome work and video, great stuff 🔥

  • @Strongfire06
    @Strongfire06 15 дней назад +2

    bro played with the ball mouse in competetive shooters video game.
    i literally played ball mouse football in my backyard irl when I was 5 years old.
    'breaking the mouse and extracte the ball.'

  • @haykizehn
    @haykizehn 24 дня назад +1

    W video it gives me the same vibe as those one from pingue and viscose

  • @Aunoux
    @Aunoux Месяц назад +1

    This is a quality video my friend. Keep it up and you will go far.

  • @Zervesta_
    @Zervesta_ Месяц назад +2

    Love your videos mate ❤️ keep it up

  • @ZwizuCS
    @ZwizuCS Месяц назад +4

    i happen to have recently started a project related to ball mice, and use an old 1992 Logitech M-S34 in competitive gaming as well!
    ive discovered all the same quirks and issues as with your intellimouse, and its really difficult to get a ''good'' performance going.
    my end goal is to custom design a new mouse using a ball, purpose tailored to high performance competitive gaming either by inventing a new ball system or upgrading the hell out of the existing system.

  • @Sosa3mg
    @Sosa3mg Месяц назад +1

    Okay, there is so much effort put into this video, you better get 100k views in a month

  • @starcrowq3
    @starcrowq3 25 дней назад +1

    This mouse was used back in 1996-1999 in competitive gaming by alot of Quake players. Myself included but i always liked Logitech Pilot better. Wasent until late 99 we got the first optical mices for the broad market and they all spun out by fast motions.Back then most mousepads including gamingpads where very small(everglide giganta anyone)Took atleast another year until we saw the intelli mouse hit version 3.0 where it could coupe with higher speeds. Razer's first optical mouse was so bad they never made a push marketing wise until they got a better sensor in it and released it as Diamondback. The fun thing with a ball mouse was that when you where used to it, you could spinn the ball by fast swipes and lift it and then stop it perfectly dead on the enemy. Which made you do muscle memory perfect flick shots.
    I've been a beta tester for mices since this exacly mouse was released 😅

  • @Paper_Street_Soap_Co
    @Paper_Street_Soap_Co 27 дней назад +3

    What the enemy team looks like when i play ranked

  • @evofreak1304
    @evofreak1304 17 дней назад +1

    microsoft intellimouse 3.0 , one of the best mouse I ever used . it was with a laser but the shape was very similar.

  • @8alakai8
    @8alakai8 15 дней назад +1

    80s we ahere still using them in the 90s beginning 2000s,edit and i rember that the first optical mouses where not that good they would jump will small movement of the mouse the ball mouses where better but after some time the optical ones got a lot better

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai Месяц назад +2

    lubricating the rollers with graphite could help a lot.

  • @glashausAimz2
    @glashausAimz2 Месяц назад +3

    i remember playing aim map in cs source with my drunk friend and he absolutely mangled me. he was on a ball mouse while i was on my mx518 optical mouse on one of the first glass mousepads from corepad.
    your scores are very impressive. i have a hard time reaching GM scores, but i chalked that up to age. i guess i should retire from competitive shooters soon. i have 2 seasons of masters complete, faceit lvl 9 and almost immortal complete, but anything above that feels almost impossible. 2500h overall in aimtrainers and some days are better than others. i don't feel it as much ingame, but locking in is much harder now than it was when i was 20.

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад

      yeah! well done on all your achievements and accomplishments! I can't really talk about your experience in aim-trainers... however, I really want to say just put in the hours, but you already have... so my next thought would be how mindful you are of your practice and technique (with vod reviews etc.), and how much content of people who are better you consume. Matty has some great tips and insights regarding aim in his "aim secrets" series, so does voltaic

  • @eunbiX
    @eunbiX Месяц назад +7

    Next touchpad on laptop?

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  Месяц назад

      haha, I'm afraid I'm not cut out for it... (maybe though lol)

    • @darkhawk574
      @darkhawk574 17 дней назад +1

      I did that for a long time as a kid lol counter strike is hell on a touch pad

  • @jrv1326
    @jrv1326 14 дней назад +1

    I used that mouse back in 2000 when first counterstrike was released and also quake arena

  • @rustybeefysmack7589
    @rustybeefysmack7589 Месяц назад +1

    Great video!

  • @yrQmem
    @yrQmem 25 дней назад +1

    PS2 mouses had a polling rate of 200-250 but usb 1.0 had max 125. so ps2 mouses have been the better option until usb 1.1 or special mouses that could do more.

  • @VladSuperKat
    @VladSuperKat 8 часов назад

    If you lift the mouse a bit so that the ball is 100% dropped it becomes godlike. Tips from an OG gamer :D

  • @sool_666
    @sool_666 Месяц назад +1

    thank you for the clip. I miss the good old days when i use this mouse to play cs 1.6

  • @8alakai8
    @8alakai8 15 дней назад +1

    if it makes nois when moving you need to clean the rollers there is some hair in the sernsor of the rollers

  • @YAAMW
    @YAAMW 29 дней назад +1

    How the **** do your only have 1250 subs? this video has more effort and better quality than many videos that get millions of views and serves as a reality check for people chasing the lightest mice in the world

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  28 дней назад

      ty! appreciate it lots!

  • @VinnyOtm
    @VinnyOtm 16 дней назад +1

    This video is so good

  • @edwardnovick9904
    @edwardnovick9904 18 дней назад +1

    It's Not the Plane, It's the Pilot!

  • @Incogn1to...
    @Incogn1to... Месяц назад +2

    People: my nice is shit I can't aim!
    This guy:💀💀💀

  • @chikeneu131
    @chikeneu131 Месяц назад +2

    most players have to reload their weapon Keeah has to reload his mouse

  • @a9ainst
    @a9ainst 4 дня назад

    Just a correction: this is a 90's mouse. How do I know? I was there and scroll wheels were only invented in 1995. BTW some ball mice were great back in the days. I played Quake and first CS Beta with a ball mouse and it was awesome. Great video!

  • @ayda2876
    @ayda2876 13 дней назад +1

    Can u make a similar video with a very bad monitor vs best of the best 480hz oled ect, to see if there is a big difference in performance. Would be a cool vid

  • @TylerDurden-up8hz
    @TylerDurden-up8hz 3 дня назад

    So you discovered the inverted trackball!!!

  • @MrOlinho77
    @MrOlinho77 4 дня назад +1

    still a good player :D impressive

  • @jtdripp
    @jtdripp Месяц назад +1

    To me sensor and polling rate is analogous to something like video resolution. 1080p looks better than 720p but it's not going to make a bad film good. The same with mouse specs, they can make playing the game feel nicer/worse, but alone are not going to fundamentally make you better or worse at aiming.

    • @diztinger
      @diztinger Месяц назад

      Of course they do. If your mouse can't handle certain accelerations, the cursor will spin out. Needless to say, you're getting nowhere with that type of mouse.

  • @YaBaDji
    @YaBaDji Месяц назад +2

    if its usb you can overclock the polling rate, you could even do it on a ps2 mouse

  • @slimeeelol
    @slimeeelol 18 дней назад +1

    its still crazy to me how a mouse made in the 80s has almost 400 dpi and 200 pulling rate when no matter what mice u use xbox caps it at 125hz lol. w vid btw

  • @guilgs94
    @guilgs94 20 дней назад +1

    Fun fact is that these PS2 devices had less input lag than USB devices due to the CPU requires.

  • @Striker-
    @Striker- Месяц назад +1

    great video

  • @safin_
    @safin_ 19 дней назад +1

    using a ball is wild

  • @bzdk.
    @bzdk. Месяц назад +1

    big love to your idea for video and the advices at the end. nowadays normal fps gamers (non e-sport players) going crazy for 4khz 8khz polling rates and latest gen sensors. actually doesnt makes any sense for them. they are spending much more dollars than they should pay. find urself a mouse that fitting ur budget and ur hand. thats it. and stop being ''latency'' and ''latest tech'' sick.

  • @GHOST117HALOBOYCOD
    @GHOST117HALOBOYCOD 17 дней назад +1

    Found this to see if anyone else still used ball mouse’s i just ordered and new compaq mouse 2 button style because my old one started acting up prefer the ball mouse’s not sure why new ones are just too touchy for me haha

  • @2catter2kun
    @2catter2kun Месяц назад +1

    i was not expected this guy to be an arsenal player, let alone a good one

  • @so14r3
    @so14r3 Месяц назад +2

    cod players be abusing the controller aim assist and then there's this guy playing bo6 on a ball mouse

  • @DragoMorke
    @DragoMorke 24 дня назад +1

    It is not normal that a ball mouse is that loud when moving it.
    Sure its been 20 or 30 yeare since I Used one but i dont rememer it like that..

  • @yowhatsup9909
    @yowhatsup9909 3 дня назад

    Hey, i know it's not an 80s mouse (as a collector of these things), but i recommend you to buy Genius GM-6 with AT/XT switch. You will need an serial connector converter to usb, but it is a true 80s mouse, without scrollwheel :D

  • @fish4096
    @fish4096 21 день назад +1

    You will get a lot of motion blur from using a mouse that has a low polling rate.

  • @F.O.X_NEWS
    @F.O.X_NEWS Месяц назад +1

    bro got better aim with this mouse than i got with my superlight 2 💀

  • @davidtheking341
    @davidtheking341 25 дней назад +1

    When this bro tries out the intelliexplorer 1.1a mind blown

  • @Babbages
    @Babbages 5 дней назад

    we used them to play unreal tournament and quake and halo and plenty of pinpoint accurate shooters back then it actually took me until like 2005 to switch to a optical mouse i still run 600dpi with a 500hz polling rate to this day to keep that slower feel . that is a newer mouse tho from late 90s i loved them microsoft ball mouses but that is not one from the 80s wouldn't have a scroll wheel if so lol.

  • @8alakai8
    @8alakai8 15 дней назад +1

    after some time you need to clean the wheels in the mouse

  • @Sinsanatis
    @Sinsanatis Месяц назад +2

    huh since i had seen and used one as a kid, i didnt think it was that old. whats crazy is that that mouse is probably older than a lot of the ppl u are killing with it.

  • @Hypedxen
    @Hypedxen Месяц назад +1

    ngl i see using that mouse in a good way, like being on that restriction can improve your aim big time MAYBE.

  • @elaraStardust
    @elaraStardust Месяц назад +2

    This mouse literally forces you to aim calmly lmao

  • @LordLab
    @LordLab 13 часов назад

    this is not a 1980's mouse , in 80's we used COM port mouse ( a serial port connector , not a USB , was no USB back than )
    this model is USB 1.1 from 1999 ( USB 1.1 was released in 1998 ) just a office model , not a gaming , and it have 360 dpi .
    also most popular gaming ball mouse in 90's was Logitech
    Logitech WingMan Gaming Mouse was the most popular model in 1999 for gaming.

  • @MartinKarov-l8o
    @MartinKarov-l8o 16 дней назад

    Those "documentary" style videos are getting hilarious. It's a computer mouse....

  • @gurupartapkhalsa6565
    @gurupartapkhalsa6565 Месяц назад

    When I first started playing quake2, this mouse was the standard, and it felt good to use.
    Uphill both ways kids, ... I'm just kidding but I assure you we all fragged.

  • @Sr7Sr7Sr7
    @Sr7Sr7Sr7 13 дней назад

    Mouse definitely from the late 90s. Ball mice were still common around 2000. No need to exaggerate, that’s still old. They work fine, just need cleaning. Not really a huge disadvantage.

  • @r1ddlebox916
    @r1ddlebox916 14 дней назад +1

    My childhood at school had dos box and I would throw the ball from the mouse at other kids fun times

  • @UzairFPS
    @UzairFPS 26 дней назад +2

    i also have a mouse with polling rate of 125hz but it has a sensor unlike urs cuz mine is not from 1980s lol but ye

  • @petruradu7242
    @petruradu7242 Месяц назад +1

    What my team8s use when im in my rank up game

  • @MangoPango1973
    @MangoPango1973 16 дней назад

    You are wrong. The Computer Mouse was developed between 1965 and 1968 by German Engineer Rainer Mallebrein from Telefunken who basically took the trackball out if their Telefunken mainframe computer and put it in an external box.
    Yes, Trackballs were invented more than a decade before the mouse, as a controller for British Airforce radar screens.
    Not everything was invented first in the USA.

  • @da_pawz
    @da_pawz Месяц назад +1

    Now I wonder.. How can I played OG CS at that era with this kind of mouse and still could do AWP kill no scope lol

  • @jedrula77
    @jedrula77 10 дней назад

    The Intelimouse ball mouse is from 1996 but this one is from around 1998-99, not from the 1980s, my friend.
    From 1987 you have Amiga mouse.

  • @MrSmitheroons
    @MrSmitheroons Месяц назад +1

    Haha, I have a ball mouse at my computer and was really curious what your video would say/show about it.
    The ball mouse is one that I use since my other mouse (an Apple "Mighty Mouse") can't left and right click at the same time... so I need the ball mouse to ADS/scope or aim a bow. Obviously it is basically usable and not even a huge hindrance compared to what you'd expect. But it also makes me laugh a bit every time I use it. "Bro is using a ball mouse in2024, LMAO." (Yes, I really like keeping old technology going, so long as it still works and gets the job done. Lol. How could you guess?)
    EDIT to add: I've only used it to play single player. But I do watch some gaming peripheral content, I'm really curious about it. So, the thought of someone analyzing the ball mouse's characteristics for application in competitive multiplayer, needless to say that got my attention! Lol.

  • @shoko480
    @shoko480 Месяц назад +1

    1000th subscriber here :3

  • @desto8268
    @desto8268 26 дней назад +1

    now time to play on crt tv

  • @syyanon1738
    @syyanon1738 Месяц назад +2

    back to 2000 CS 1.3/1.6
    :D

  • @allian_berkgo9218
    @allian_berkgo9218 10 дней назад +1

    I used to play with a ball mouse until mine broke last year

  • @ChaS4m
    @ChaS4m Месяц назад +1

    Before I won enough money from competing in small val tourney’s I used to play with an old IBM mouse 😂 definitely doable

  • @Omni404-x2b
    @Omni404-x2b Месяц назад +1

    op1 8k Mainer? I have the purple frost version

  • @honorabilis1
    @honorabilis1 Месяц назад +1

    used to get dirty so fast, those damn rollers

  • @Condred
    @Condred Месяц назад

    I still think mouse sensor performance reached diminishing returns after the 3360/3366

  • @thejuanproject12210
    @thejuanproject12210 19 дней назад +1

    bro you are still using a mechanical keyboard?, in my cas i love this stile of keyboard and moding them but i hear a lot of people saying that is shit comparing with a HE one

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  19 дней назад +1

      I merged my keyboard with the Wooting 60HE roughly 2 years ago (swapping and modding its PCB and switches). I was planning on making it into a video but sadly ended up scrapping it :C
      I believe Wooting is now selling their PCB as a standalone product if you are interested in moving toward HE keyboards

  • @botikk1
    @botikk1 Месяц назад +1

    Lets buy first sensor mouse and compare it

  • @pmcomputing2459
    @pmcomputing2459 Месяц назад +1

    How did we get through PC gaming in the 90's without optical mice?? lol I made an art of cleaning those things back then lol

    • @Squidgy55
      @Squidgy55 21 день назад

      I found it quite enjoyable.

  • @muiwols6709
    @muiwols6709 Месяц назад

    Extra ball indeed helps.

  • @buzzbang9164
    @buzzbang9164 Месяц назад +1

    so laser or ball? best for you

    • @Bob5mdl6
      @Bob5mdl6 Месяц назад

      personally I play a lot better on a ball mouse

  • @yamiru3417
    @yamiru3417 Месяц назад +1

    i have one of them, well 2, they are fun

  • @zxTaSiC
    @zxTaSiC 26 дней назад +2

    yo what's the aim lab map at 0:37 ?

    • @Keeahh
      @Keeahh  25 дней назад

      it was an official aimlab x logitech one... I think it was called "Ultimate Challenge"

    • @zxTaSiC
      @zxTaSiC 25 дней назад +1

      @Keeahh thanks