Makes No Sense: Mora Robust Pro Series
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
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You struck out on this one GT. This knife is not for bushcraft, it is for trade. I am a miner and in our sites we need a knife that is under 4 inches by regulation, and since we cut rope, vinyl, rubber, open crates, pry staples, etc and don't need to whittle wood, a 1/8th inch thick spine with a 3.6 inch blade is the hero at the camp. In fact, I personally purchased one for all of my employees because I believe and they confirmed that this is the absolute best knife we have used in our industry in many years. Many of my employees went on to purchase more in case they lose it which is common in mining. The 511 won't last long here. We need to be mindful that tools are made for different situations and we cannot group them all in the same camp. That would make my wife's WUSTHOF knives useless for bushcraft and they are a hell of a lot more expensive than that Mora. But hey, they aren't designed for that anyway, are they?
Just because you use a differnt knife doesn't mean it's not an amazing camp bushcraft. Survival knife...
Must remember that Mora was a work knife in Sweden and elsewhere before bushcrafters adopted them so not all their knives are intended for bushcraft tasks and the grips that go along with them.
+CSharp
Exactly, this specific knife is designed with carpentry in mind.
Some people don't get that though, unfortunately. Uhm, I wanted to say it's complementary and people are different. haha
(Great for making fires and doing acute carving, just can't do everything with it as well as what it's great at.)
The Mora Robust is mainly made for carpenters. Just so you know, and it may explain some of the things you didn't like. Hope you like the comment. :)
The Mora Pro Robust makes sense if you check the manufacturer page for the purpose of that knife. It's not meant to be a bushcraft / outdoor knife (but still can perform very well for that purpose). It's a tool for craftsmen who want a more robust knife than the normal Pro C / Pro S models. For that purpose the finger guard on the back of the handle makes sense for some applications.
The whole new Pro series makes even more sense if you compare those knives with their main competitors - the Hultafors Craftsman's knives:
Mora Pro 511 Hultafors HVK
Mora Pro C Hultafors HVK GH
Mora Pro Robust Hultafors Heavy Duty / GK
Mora Pro 546 Hultafors RFR
Mora Pro S Hultafors RFR GH
In Scandinavia (especially in Sweden) the Hultafors knives (like the Mora Craftsmen series) are very popular amongst craftsmen. The new Pro series is Mora's attempt to gain market share.
For bushcraft / outdoor purposes Mora offers their Companion / Bushcraft series and Hultafors just recently modified their Craftsman's knives for the same purpose (OK1 + OK4 which are very interesting competitors to the Mora Buscraft Black).
But I agree that without the finger guard on the back of the handle the Pro series would be more interesting for bushcrafting / outdoor. I would not be surprised if they came up with the same knives with a slightly modified handle in the future if enough people kept asking for such a product line (like they had a model 510 witouth the finger guard [which many people disliked / cut off] of the old 511).
THE rear hook on the handle is to aid craftsmen, carpenters etc who work with gloves. The idea is that when drawing the knife from a belt or legholster you get a better intial grip and won't drop your knife in the sea, or off the scaffolding.
the robust is one of the best moras available.
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I just buy today for 10 $
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The robust pro is quickly becoming my favorite on the property carry Mora, previous was companion hd. I have gone full circle, started with a mora and eventually semi custom knives, now back to a Mora on my belt, crazy stuff.
AFAIK the rear hook on the handle is to aid craftsmen, carpenters etc who work with gloves. The idea is that when drawing the knife from a belt or legholster you get a better intial grip and won't drop your knife in the sea, or off the scaffolding.
I've used Mora Pros for woodworking and there is absolutely no problem this knife
for the price, own them all.
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That seems a bit excessive. You can't use them all, and most will preform exactly the same. Just because they're inexpensive doesn't mean you should blow money on multiples of them for no reason. Buy one and use it. Buy another if it breaks (which it most likely never will).
@@SteveSmith-sd5hq why do you care how he spends his money? If he wants to buy quality, inexpensive knives I say go for it. Of course he could use them all, there is no reason why he couldn't. Some people collect Moras and it is a good idea to have more than one knife on hand even if they perform the same. You can't use a knife that you don't have. For $10-15 bucks why not purchase a few of these knives?
personally the Mora Robust is the only knife i use in camp.
Your review should be more about the purpose of the Pro Robust which is really just a thicker blade version of the Pro C. They all have their strengths depending on the situation. The Pro Robust is for the guys that love the Pro C but need a more "robust" blade. Kudos to Mora for offering even more options.
It actually has a 3/4 tang, so it goes 3/4 of the way through the handle. Nice review. I picked one up today and it's a fantastic camp and prep knife and super light weight.
I've seen someone break the handle on youtube and it looks to be more than 3/4 into the handle. It's a little deeper. It's more of a 4/5 tang.
I’ve been watching knife videos in my down time for the past few weeks. It just dawned on me that we waaayyy overthink knives. Find a good knife that’s in your price range and run with it. If you like knives and can afford it then have a collection. Use the one you like most. Boooommmm!!!
Am I the only one who EDC's a mora robust? It's great!
I carry the old companion for my work knife, everyday. Used to carry the robust but, riding a mower, lost the knife out of the sheath bouncing around. Was afraid to find it in the tire someday, never did.
I edc one as well, in fact might be my favorite Mora thus far.
I am from Mora country. I have about 10 of theese including the thinner blade and the stainless version. This knife is superstrong. Watch Dutch bushcraft torture test of this knife.
I love this little knife. My edc neck knife kydexed.
Ultra2k how do you carry it? This thing also looks great for defense too.
Not sure, but you may want to check the length of that tang. I believe it's longer ??
Julius Gonzo tang is longer, in fact most of Moras have 3/4 tang. I own several moras and use each one for its relatively intended purpose. Great products! My favorite is the Kansbol!
This is a great knife for construction.I have used it to cut mule tape,;bull line etc.Cutting ties,Cutting dry wall.All sorts of things and it held up very well.Sometimes the job calls for a knife that is more robust than a box cutter..But at the same time you don’t want to subject your edc to cutting bags of concrete.
I love your videos, but I own a robust pro, and honestly of all the knives that I own it out performs them all! And I bought it for $14 brand new! Sharp as hell right out of the package. I see the difference between the 511 and pro-robust the 511 does slice a little better but it can’t take the same beating as the robust! In my opinion this particular video was not done with accurate information.
It absolutely makes sense, even Joe X couldn't break it.
You can depend your life on it, since it does not break from massive abuse.
This knife is not made to be a bushcraft knife, it is a working mans knife. Your point comparing one to the other, make no sense. Btw. The tang is much longer then you illustrated in this video, do your research.
I rather like the Robust. I got my dad one, It fits my hand perfectly and I like the weight of it. I'm ordering one for myself.
+MrBreeze Sweet, to each his own.
I use the Robust for sort of carpentry tasks, I am making a knife handle and use the number 2 or the longer model slöjdkniv for details and the Robust for general whittling when I must use more force when cutting the quite hard juniper wood I have chosen as handle for my Yakutian knifeblade (as I had some juniper but no birchburl att home) or should I use stacked birchbark instead...
Was there any chipping or other blade deformities after chopping the dead branches? Just got a chip today on a different mora (749) on thinner than half pinky diameter baby tree saplings.
As Mora say on the homepage, about this knife. (This knife is for construction and crafts work. This means that we have prioritized a sharp and sustainable egg together with a steady grip, which means that the appearance of the bladder back is not as much space. If you use our building and craft knives in other contexts than those intended, keep in mind that most of them have this unpolished bladder back - it can not be used with ignition steel) Best regards from me in Sweden
Have you tried modifying the sheath on this ? Does it work well for a survival knife.
I'm looking to buy a fixed blade edc. I'm looking for under 4 inches . Do you recommend this knife ?
I have a companion and the sheath says mg. But the knife has the thinner blade. I bought it new. Did some of the mg knives have a thin blade?
The 511 is a good knife for light wood tasks. I can buy one for 4,95€ at my local hardware store but if I had to choose since I own both of these, I'd go with the Robust. The handle is nicer and it is simply indestructible. Great knife, unjust video.
Would this make an inexpensive comparison to the COLD STEEL Pendleton Hunter? I know, different grind. Your old video on the Pendleton Hunter is a bit blurry. I'd go with the Mini but the handle looks to small as I have XL hand. Looking for a decent fixed blade that could fit in the pocket. I have companions and light my fire models, bit big for edc in the pocket. Never had a HD model and thought as a general use knife a thicker spine might be handy.
Thanks for the great video Aaron. I was thinking of getting a Pro Robust but I'll just get an HD Companion instead.
Bushcraft this, bushcraft that......the robust pro was designed for CONSTRUCTIONWORKERS! The fact that you use it as a bushcraft/survivalknife is a compliment for Mora since this is a sturdy boxcutter for them. :) Ah well, gotta love every morakniv.
The way the knife bites into the wood is just so satisfying
I think the mora pro series sheaths are there best offering also.
could you make a review on a tactical boot/good hiking boot? thanks
I think the point is a shorter Thicker blade as well as wider is less likely to flex or get bent or break. It has a bigger limit of use. Imo is aimed really aggressive use at work where failing a blade is possible because its a pain but not a crisis. Because blade are pushed beyond what is typical in the outdoors.
And what the Pro Robust can take, we can see in the Joe X video.
It's crazy tough.
What stores carry Mora knives? I'm having a hard time finding a local retailer in the Savannah, Ga. area.
Louisiana Ridgerunner Not sure, amazon.com is where to go.
It takes 2 minutes to sharpen the spine and turn it into an excellent fire starter. The “hook” makes it much more secure when your hands are slippery. And the extra blade thickness makes chopping small branches with a baton so easy that you don’t need to carry a hatchet.. Probably safer too..
Excellent! My robust turned up in the post today! It is my first Mora but it's already my best knife...
The knife is designed for carpenters because it has a thick blade meant to be hit with a hammer and sturdy handle also the guard on the back of it Is for help pulling it out of wood then it's stuck.
Being carbon steel, will the blade stain easily?
What is the tang on the companion?
Wouldn't the thicker blade be much better for wood processing? I know that the four inch companion HD would be better for batoning but there is also state laws to consider. I live in Georgia and the legal knife length used to be four inches. Even if the companion was right at four inches I wouldn't carry it just so I'm not pushing my luck. I'll probably pick one of these up. I like the look a bit better than the Basic because of the size of the blade and I think I can get away with edcing it without turning too many heads.
The law is not always your friend. It should equal justice. Which it is often not the case.
My morakniv blunted the tip after staving into wood one time.... Fail.
I think that a lot of Mora knives are redundant but that just makes more room for personal preference. For example, I bought the Craftline Robust because it had the same specs as the MG HD, it was $3 cheaper and it wasn't green (I have a lot of green in my kit as it is).
Robust whas more of an craftman knife for example electricians just a safe fixed blade thats also tough.
nice review but ate you sure about tang length? I own one and the new 510 put a magnet on both and according to it. the length is about 3/4 rat tail
so mora companion is better than robust?
I like the (slight) peace of mind you get with the thicker blade and the slightly longer tang, the handle seems good to me. The only thing that I would like added is a hole in the top of the handle for a lanyard.
I got in a Mora Craft Pro and a Companion Heavy Duty today and really like them both. Feel great in the hand, easy to control and cut feather sticks with out hardly any effort. I will say this between the two, the Craft Pro actually bites into the wood a little bit better than the Companion HD...still, no complaints with either knife.
Thank you so mutch for this video! I really couldnt pick between the companion hd and the robust.
I bought the companion heavy duty
As a bushcraft knife it's pretty incredible to be honest. You can baton incredibly hard wood albeit not very thick. Indestructible!
The hook style in Finish knives at the back is a classic use for pull cuts with cold hands
do you know how to use a belt sander? or rub the handle on a rock most vigorously? i prefer the handle on my robust actually. it gives a better grip for me. different strokes i guess. i do remember that time though, when i couldn't quite slice a tomato properly....that was a close one...lol!
I like broader blade for spreading toast. handle is fab, imo
Listen to the name of it. It's not just for the bushcrafting abilities but also the fact that it is practically indestructible
The butt end has the bump out for when your using the butt end to hammer or pound on something with the rear of the knife. Just fyi. And I see your point on them but they're all relatively inexpensive also
your right - the back of the handle is a problem and the companion addresses this - thanks for the heads up
Seeing this review is giving me a choice between the robust and the 511. I am a boy scout and as some may know, boy scouts don't allow knives over 4" (as far as i know). This obviously cuts out the pathfinder, 731, 748, kansbol, garberg, bushcraft black, bushcraft forest and 2000. I am not sure if they will accept the companion because it is just barely over 4" (4.1"). I want a knife that is tough, stays under 4", holds an edge, and is very sharp. Any help with the choice? (size of the handle is not a problem. i have hands that are a bit bigger than the average man's)
good vid. have you any information about Mora`s Carbon Steel, what kind of chemical composition have?
Hi from memory I believe it is called Uderhom 20, not sure of spelling, and is very much like 1095 steel. I may be wrong, because I read it some time ago.
thanks
Nice evaluation of a variety of Mora knives. Honest, complete, and articulately descscibed.
I have one of these moras I use it in the local forest serves me well Its a work horse it's been dirty wet used in muddy conditions snow everything always performs well for me
The Robust has a 27 degree angle. The companion and 511 has a 23. The difference is almost unnoticeable during cutting.
the tang ending is longer than shown
I think it's a three quarter tang
I saw the pro s get cut and the tang goes about 3/4 the way down the handle. I think the whole pro line might be the same way.
The hook at the butt of the handle is solid. I sawed the hook off mine and filed it a bit now it feels good in my hand. I did the cutting parallel to the handle NOT perpendicular!
I intend to order this new model robust. I own a Companion HD, but I like the look of the stouter tip on the Robust. Also I like this new sheath, and own a pair of 546 Basics. What I like is the ability to piggyback a pair of different knives while taking up less space on my belt. I can't do that with my HD.
i picked up a mora classic at the flea market...the leather sheath needed oiled,the paint on the handle is faded and flaky,but the blade is still super sharp....only 5 bucks
The "hook" just grind it down or chop it of if you don't like it?
Love your reviews. I have a modded Hvy Dty Companion, grinded 90 degree top back and zeroed the skandi grind on it.......it is a little monster and does it all. I still need a big knife, considering the Ontario sp3 machete soon. Thanks again.
In my opinion the pro series is a better skinning blade than the 511 or the companion.
I hear ya. I own many of them, including this one. I really think it's a "Looks" thing....The "Pro" series knives look more like conventional outdoor knives to me, as opposed to the "Kitchen" look of most of the other modern Moras. And I agree with you on the "Thin" blade moras...My favorites!
I own the pro robust and the handle feel very secure compare with the robust which I own as well. Try the 546 which is made on stainless steel perfect for my environment where I live
I tend to agree unless someone just wants a beefier Mora, and if that's the case I would get the full tang Garberg. Mora's are great knives when you want a low-cost, sharp slicer. I balance mine by having an Esee 5 in my gear.
Totally with you. And thanks I was going to get one, quite convinced watching this video. Gonna get heavy duty or bushcraft.
Great point of view. I have the new robust and ss and actually like them better. I am a big fan of knives that fit my hand well and these fit better to me than the older versions. Either way, a deal that cannot be beat. Good video.
Thanks my friend! Hey if you like the design you can't beat the price.
If you dont like the little flare out at the bottom there is an easy solution, take another mora knife and slice it off. I cut my Pro S and Robust moras at the flare after buying them. Then I take a piece of sandpaper and shape it till the nub is gone. Thats kind of the point with Mora knives is they are great as is or a great platform to modify.
I prefer the blade profile of the Pro S / Robust / Pro C over the companion.
Thank you very much. That is the comparison I really needed. I wanted carbon Mora so I will just go for Companion Heavy Duty since I really love my stainless companion.
Pick the right tool for the right job. Some knives are just better for certain jobs. The Robust is a better option, only for those tasks that require more rigidity in the blade.
Awesome review. Answered all my questions. I have a companion and love it. Looking for the new Pro C or Robust and going with the Pro C with this information here. Thanks for the review. Love the Mora line and just wanting to add versatility to collection.
I bought the tops bob for around the house for just over a 100 bucks.
Then I made the mistake of buying a mora!
Now the expensive knife never leaves the draw as the moras do it all and do it better.
DONT buy a Mora if you already spent more than 50 bucks on a knife.
Buyers remorse lol
Joe i got many knives that are over 100$ but moras is one Off the best knives i have. They are one off the best knives in the world
I swear the blade must be made of adamantium after watching DBK torture test video.
Robust makes sense for me because in my state (Connecticut) it's illegal to carry a knife with a 4" blade. That means I want the Robust because it's 1/8" thick AND the blade length is under 4" meaning it's legal to carry here.
That back issue i can solve it on a grinder or directly from axe chop :))) no problem.
To my mind this design resembles more of a Hultafors which maybe is the answer. Mora would like for sure to have customers that like the companion design and the new one, so everybody shall be happy and satisfied I guess.
The only thing I want to add is that the blade seems to be a bit more deep into the handle 3/4 of it which is really good.
Anyway, great video, keep going for it!
Do they rust that's my question? Because I go atving and my gerber ultimate survival knife rusted and I'm pissed!
They make ss models
Great video. Excellent analysis and comments. But the best part of all was all the hand gesturing at the end of the video. I kept waiting to see if you were going to stab your empty hand. Glad you survived! ;-) I am going to pick up the 511. Thanks.
Spot on that extra bit on the back is driving me nuts and it's coming off just wish I'd seen this vid earlier.
Wood processing ??? I'm gona use an axe or a hatchet or a tomahawk ! But that mora robust knife is a great deal !
+virgil kane Victims of RUclips incest use knives to baton wood. Experts who have studied what real woodsmen have done for two thousand years, and who have actually lived the life, use hatchets, tomahawks, axes, and saws to process wood. They use knives for cutting.
+James Ritchie well said. i do plenty of outdoor stuff. i live in the national forest on mt hood. make adventure videos. some survival etc. but i get a kick out of how everyone on youtube batons wood with tiny knives in every video. i never baton wood. our forest has so much wood. hell i burn logs in half so i dont have to do extra work. batonning wood is only needed if no wood is around but one or a few big logs. just no need. or to get into dry wood. but i dont buy a knife based on if it is good at batonning etc. as some do.
+James Ritchie VIctims of RUclips incest is perfect to explain them, most of these RUclips survival experts go camping for 1 night close to home still in cellphone service range and pretend they're surviving!
***** Living in Australia I get to some pretty remote locations and pride myself on being able to survive until help found me if ever they did(lots are never found here). Love to come to northern Canada one day but in no way could have survive in that harsh wilderness even with the correct tools for the job, people these days learn some skills and think they can survive anywhere when it's simply not the case. These TV shows like ALONE or Naked and Afraid prove that point.
I love this new little Mora and it comes in 3 different versions. This one and one with thinner carbon steel and also 1 in stainless steel. 7 Pro serie knifes
My Moras has been stronger than my Bark River Bravo 1
Thanks for your observations. Just revised my order from Robust to heavy duty companion. Cheers
I honestly don't see the appeal of a mora anymore after messing with the Tops Scandi trekker. It's just my prefference, but after I get my Scandi trekker my Moras won't be used. And they're rarely used as-is.
agree with you on the back guard. I cut and sanded mine off on my 511. much better feeling knife now. I like to reverse cut and that guard just got in the way
Another difference is that the robust has a much sturdier tang than the 511 to handle the light to moderate batoning. You can knock a 511 out of the handle much much easier than you can the robust.
The Pro (S) is the stainless-steel version and has the thinner blade like the 511
Thank you for the awesome review, now i know that i should just keep my 511
i just bought this knife. thank you for the awesome review.
Actually the tang goes about 3/4 down the handle.
I bought it exactly for that guard in front and behind the hand. I need a ... robust knife to spare my 'Victorinox plus ratchet' blade.
they've made a Mora Pro C now that looks like the Mora Robust except its got the same blade thickness of the 511
Good review. I got the companion hd. Thanks. Ps love the Kansbol. I’d like to see future companions and companion HD’s in the Kansbol handle. HINT HINT MORA!!