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Good all round old school chat that, hits all the points. Just a suggestion, would be good having Kieran on to navigate the talking points so you get both sides going at it like a proper pub chat. Keep it up W&O Kieran 👍🏽
Agreed. Right about everything he said but Ten Hag doesn’t seem to know as much. Amazing how many people in football know less than the man on the street
The last vestige of a player who knows what level you should be at to play for United. And he was fourth choice under SAF. That’s how far we’ve fallen.
McTominay , Fernández, best left back at the club £5m , got rid of Sabitzer, and spunked £700m on shite that couldn't get a game at their previous clubs
Sabitzer was only 13 million so he pays 60 on sick note Mount webby your right Falot has been making mistakes Amad works hard Wheatley in the academy works hard for 90 minutes big lad Rashford needs brains Dennis used to get sent off around Christmas
The blinkered Dutch direction isn’t working….players mostly signed fr Ajax etc….hasnt worked at all. Biggest dilemma from last season was that Utd can’t score & still hasn’t been solved even with new coaching staff..Dutch of course….cant see this present team winning any match anytime soon. Got to change if they want to start winning!! 🤔🤷🤦♂️
Webby nailed it. Problem will be the same all season though there's no goals in this side and no real alternative on the side companied with Erik's non way of playing we're going to struggle all year.
The first half of this vid is like a comedy skit. Haven’t seen Tony not able to get a word in 😂. I commented last week that Ten Hag needs to stay and succeed but if you use the barometer of how frustrated Webby is I really can’t see Ten Hag lasting the season. This is United and we all just want to see some football that’s worthy of the badge.
The honest version with no frills. Love it when Webby comes on. A lot of the players aren't good enough. The manager is woefull, and should have gone. I was pleased to hear Webby slag off rotation. The great players played nearly every game. You had your best eleven, they played, unless it was a weaker opposition. The training at Utd is pathetic. And the attitude of players is worse. For me the big problems with no goals are two fold. Playing hold ball. This stupid necessity to walk the ball into the box. Instead of looking for runners and bunging in long balls behind. And on a similar note. Selfish players with no pass mentality. I'm taking the shot, stuff you. Rooney scored most goals for us, but also look at the assists. You look at Harry Kane. Scores goals but also sets up goals. We have Rashford, run in, long range shot. Gets lucky sometimes, mostly wild. Bruno peppers the stands with high long range shots. And Garnacho, head down, arse up, until he runs into something. All these guys have to do is kick a ball for extortionate amounts of money. I can't feel sorry for them. Dream bloody job. I laboured on construction sites for 43 years. Many injuries. Body is knackerd. Worked mostly six days a week, with few holidays. Retire broke. These make more in a year than I did in a lifetime for kicking a ball a few times a week. Harden up it isn't tough work. You have the chance to play a game for good money. Get on with it.
Webby bang on...We could sort left back and midfield out, but we still won't score enough goals to compete in the Prem. Even my missus says I'm like a broken record every year saying we haven't signed any proven goal scorers. I said it before we kicked the season off and I was desperate to be proven wrong, but we can't hit a barn door with a banjo and the decisions in the last third has been a nightmare. Long road ahead guys. Good point from Webby regarding a back three and packing out midfield.
Why do teams play out from the back , all you do is invite pressure onto your back four and in UTDs case we are just not good enough. You cannot concede if the ball is in the opponents half and you never know we might actually get a chance to score.
Great video lads! Obviously would prefer us to be talking about the positives and signs of improvement but this start to the season has been shocking and this needed to be said!
Fact is Evans was brought up to fight for that shirt, the others just don't have it. No backbone. nothing has changed in the way we play, Ten Hag is hoping for something to click (in his words) that's not how to manage a club. He has to make things happen. for me it's time he goes, it's only a matter of a time, that's obvious to us all.
Spot on Webby. Eths obsession with signing Dutch players is baffling. Neither of our strikers would get in league one team and don't start me on Rashford. Manager should have gotten the gate in June but they messed it up.
TBH they played good enough not to lose with some luck. Eth is not stupid. Need a real good goal scorer. Bruno was close but most of time just kicks the ball randomly and passes are high risk Hollywood passes. He needs a break.
It's like 1989 again! I remember when Zar in The Red Issue used to call it 'Alex C Ferguson's Mysterious World', because of his strange team selections. It's like going back 35 years in time!
I’m always reluctant to rattle off the problems at Man Utd, and list the underperforming players because it sounds like reactionary off-loading, but Martinez for all his United “DNA” in terms of grit, tenacity, that bit of devil in him that we love, he is a liability. Bruno shouldn’t even be at the club. Mainoo has ghosted all season, the novelty of his jinky runs & a couple of classy goals from last season have wore off, now it’s time to show us what he brings to the party on a consistent basis, and he’s absent, he’s not aggressive enough, he’s not imposing himself, he’s not involved in the heart of the play, and he does walk around with a strut like he’s big time, well let’s see him dominate games, or at least have the intent to. Garnacho, no core strength, runs out gas, muscled off the ball, hit & miss with his end product. I could go on through the whole side.
@@summan41man eh? Giggs won PFA Young Player of the Year, two years on the bounce, in his 2nd & 3rd season. He ripped it up in 93/94 as well. He got a bit of mild criticism around 95-97 for his crossing, and inconsistency, but he was always a threat, and Giggsy always had that man about him, even when he was 18-19, he was a man, he could compete with and beat men. Garnacho ain’t 40% of what Ryan Giggs was at that age. Ronaldo was 10 year later, I mean, you’re picking players from decades apart, I’m telling you the whole squad right now is bang average, and there’s little to be optimistic about. Not one of these players is showing any promise at all. Just red flags everywhere.
@@summan41man Giggs was very strong tho, wiry but still had a lot of core strength. I don’t trust garnacho when he’s in a footrace, or shoulder to shoulder. His end product is something that can be worked on, but his physicality will always hold him back
Spot on Webby, the Ineos "best in category" team have bought a lot of journey men and I don't think Ten Hag wanted them, and it shows. Ten Hag just wants out but wants his pay out.
I agree. It’s an abomination the changes he makes. He has a win win situation. He get$ fired ? Running to the bank , he knew man utd gave away money like candy on Halloween. He conned the club fans etc. I never got fired from a job and received millions for not doing my job. ! 😂😂
@@robertnegron9706 I think he was pissed off with the whole applying for his own job shit Ineos did after the cup final and has bided his time, plus he clearly didn't want most, if not all the pre season signings to the point it's reminding me of Ole and Van De Beek. The problem is Ratcliffe. He has enabled the Glazers to stay and he appears to be too tight to pay off Ten Hag and bin him, well until we lose a few more league games and begin to knock on the relegation door. Another fucking wasted season.
👏👏👏👏👏 agree with you webby 100%, it’s boring , no style of play , no plan , no idea. If you can’t sort it out in 2.5 years then surely your in the wrong job, infact the stats are getting worse instead of better 🤷
Love it, Webby 😂 get it off your shoulders, pal. I wish I could be next to ya and spill my guts, too. Unfortunately, it's just eating away at me inside and destroying my soul. Regardless, though, we keep the red flag flying high ❤
Glad to see webby dry and out the canal😂. Solid discussion from old school reds you carnt get anywhere else. Only point i disagreed with was the Dalot one webby, he's no where near it for me for a top right back. Agree about Kobbie & Martinez. 👍🏽
Webby is spot on about being entertained! But I can't see EtH playing a type of football that we enjoy. I'd rather put him out of his misery now and line someone up that can cope with the pressure of managing United
United's issue is it's always been the greatest club for "moments" and our counter attack philosophy shows it, we never dominate in Europe apart from 2007-2009... and traditionally play underdog against Madrid, Bayern, Milan etc. I just think the ship has sailed, especially if City win that court case. The true greats join Madrid or Barcelona they haven't ever come here apart from Ronaldo and Rooney as kids in my lifetime. We don't get the Zidane's, R9's, Messi's and don't have a country to pay them like Haaland at City. I don't really see how we do much of anything in Europe as we just don't have the pull for the best at their peak years. It's a fact we don't. Also when people keep saying we are the biggest club. We ain't unless we don't count Madrid and Barcelona as clubs these days. We are third at best (which is granted still pretty good) but De Jong wouldn't come here for any amount of money which was telling.
The guys clueless, webby is right. Hes lost all ideas , he plays the same formation all the time why play inverted wingers when our strikers are getting zero service? Try playing a left footer on the left and a right footer on the right and get some crosses in ! And maybe if we need a goal like against villa its ok to put more strikers on take some fucking risk. Its what manchester united are all about....maybe im too old school but get at um and win 4-3 some excitement needed. Keep up the good work lads.
Not much to say after all that lads ,totally agree with most of what's been said ,but NOWTS changed in 2 years ,pleased with 2 cups but we are awful from top to bottom ,great listening from proppa reds talking from the heart,it's gotta change cos we are in shit street an I'm 😤😤😤😤just like you.UTFR KTF.💪💪💪👍
Tony and Webby Ara spot on but I believe the team will get it right soon life up the manager and player's please it's our team will you down your child never, stand by them. From South Africa Cape Town. Love you all.
As united fans we just keep going round in circles. One minute it's the players then it's the manager or it's who's buying these players? . It's the glazers who've ruined our club but no one cares anymore
to adapt my previous comment its now the second week of October and Man Utd have scored one goal at home , its done its over the only thing left are those that talk about the compensation fee , hes a nervous wreck when being interviewed its done. Ratcliffe has sacked every book keeper, cleaner ,club historian like a puffed out bully , sort it out , the bully snide.
Hate to say it but I’m worried about ineos keeping ten hag. They have done anything with the clubs they own I think we just all think this is guaranteed to work. The only shed of light if ineos fail then the glazers might decide to fully sell up we have been crap for 10 years
Gentlemen, 4-4-2 and an All-black attitude (Legacy by James Kerr). United book co-authored by Michael Carrick and Roy Kean for players and staff only. Best to all. Kev.
Can someone tell Webby to speak slowly and clearly for some of us who are not British. This channel is engaging when Kieron and pops are on. Webby should understand he's speaking to an audience all over the world who follow this channel because of the O’Neill. I'm glad Webby doesn't feature regularly. Poor communication skills
Has anyone thought that ETH is under direction to play a certain way and to do it with youth? And that has led to a dis-jointed team where there are too many boys and that is putting strain on the senior players. There is a senior back line, hence the clean sheets and draws and lack of goals.
Webby just said everything we’ve been saying. Rashford been crap for a year, never dropped. The minute he gets a goal and an assist he gets subbed. Same with the center halves. ETH’s subs are wild.
ETH.. don't expect me to make United play the way I had Ajax playing bec it doesn't work the same. ETH proceeds to sign all his old Ajax players and still can't figure out a system that works 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ the players look clueless as to what they're supposed to be doing and us fans are even more baffled as to what is supposed to be happening.
Spot on webby as usual zirkzee and hojlund please make me eat my words cos they don't look like goalscorers and a team that doesn't create for the forwards is gonna make it harder still coming Erik change something
We werent going to get kane out of spurs for anything less than 150mil. The only reason spurs let him go is because he wanted to go and bayern isn’t in our league. Levy was never letting kane go to united he even made a back handed comment about the price being 200mil to united. I agree we needed an experienced striker but we simply couldn’t afford one.
Webby tells it how it is, he's not being negative he's telling the truth you cannot gloss this up its just awful.He's passionate about man United and it's killing him watching our beloved clubs standards fall to this.We spent plenty of cash (600m) on bang average players.
We should not compare us with the top 4. We are just not ready. And it takes years to get to that level. Everyone was enthusiastic about Bruno in the beginning of the season now only critics. He is tired and rotation is the solution. You see how many players are injured all ready at several teams. We need to rotate with players, no other solution. This is a long season. Judge them in February not now. Way to early
Lads , once again best United show. Just need to relax and be patient. Remember , if we’d have reacted how people are reacting now back in the late eighties there would have been no Ferguson and all the glory days. Ferguson was allowed time …six years before the title was won . Finished 11th twice and 13th in those first years ! Do well to remember that.
So should we have given Moyes 6 years? 😂😂😂 Madrid, Bayern, Barca, Juve...none of these clubs give a manager even 2-3 years to prove themselves. Just because we gave Fergie time 40 years ago doesn't mean every Dick and Jane that becomes manager needs 4 years.
@@manutd231261 honestly this is the most mind numbing logic that I hear get parroted. SAF was appointed on the back of a SACKING!! Ron Atkinson finished 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 4th, and won two FA Cups. If he wasn’t sacked, there is no SAF. You’re living in cuckoo land, and thinking lighting is gonna strike twice. Just because it happened with Fergie, a one in a million manager, doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen now, you’re just too desperate to try and recreate history. SAF didn’t spend €700 and park €350 of it on the bench. You know what SAF did, he bought Choccy, Brucey, Sparky, Sharpey, Incey, Pally, within his first 1-3 years. He finished 2nd in his first full season and Choccy was top scorer with 30+ goals, that’s credit & trust in the bank right out the gate. Sparky was top scorer the following two seasons, his signings all showed promise. Plus, he had far more gravitas for what he done with Aberdeen. There’s absolutely no similarities at all between Ten Hag and SAF
I dont think the players are having bad spells there no getting coached properly. Every player whos played for united in the last 2 years have been rubbish even the new signings.
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Tony, believe me when I say, I COULD DO better than Ten Hag and I'm not even a pro manager (although I could be if I wanted).
Good all round old school chat that, hits all the points. Just a suggestion, would be good having Kieran on to navigate the talking points so you get both sides going at it like a proper pub chat. Keep it up W&O Kieran 👍🏽
Nothing better than a pair of Mancs..debating the club we all love.
Keep it going lads....love this channel
Thanks for the support
Dominic Calvert Lewin from Everton on a free is a no brainer
Love your profile pic, that's my 1st kit right after becoming a fan❤
Tony and Webby were both spot on legends
Webby’s on form again here and he’s spot on with his analysis.Great video 👍
When is he not 😂
@@MarcusStephenson1970 true 🤣👍
Agreed. Right about everything he said but Ten Hag doesn’t seem to know as much. Amazing how many people in football know less than the man on the street
Tony's talking some tosh lately, it's only when Webby comes on that the nonsense stops
Webby's gonna have a meltdown if this shit doesn't get sorted out
would love to sit down and have a couple of pints with yas lads and listen to proper talk about the club, great channel
Much appreciated
Proper United fans telling it like it is!
We need more webby on the webby and O’Neil channel
Jonny's attitude both on and off the pitch sets a high standard for other players to follow, true example of professionalism
The last vestige of a player who knows what level you should be at to play for United. And he was fourth choice under SAF. That’s how far we’ve fallen.
Top pro
Legends, the pair of you!
McTominay , Fernández, best left back at the club £5m , got rid of Sabitzer, and spunked £700m on shite that couldn't get a game at their previous clubs
That’s it, money on pure shite👍
Mctominay should have been sold ages ago 80 percent of h is time here he was shit Fernandez is unproven but I agree on sabitzer
Sabitzer was only 13 million so he pays 60 on sick note Mount webby your right Falot has been making mistakes Amad works hard Wheatley in the academy works hard for 90 minutes big lad Rashford needs brains Dennis used to get sent off around Christmas
You guys are legends. Thanks for this channel, the best 👏🏻 GGMU 🇾🇪
Brilliant fellas, enjoyed the discussion.
Old school chat lads with honest opinions. Webby ranting for 20mins lol. Thanks
Great show lads 👏🏾
Glad you enjoyed it
The blinkered Dutch direction isn’t working….players mostly signed fr Ajax etc….hasnt worked at all. Biggest dilemma from last season was that Utd can’t score & still hasn’t been solved even with new coaching staff..Dutch of course….cant see this present team winning any match anytime soon. Got to change if they want to start winning!! 🤔🤷🤦♂️
Exactly! INEOS made it worse by keeping Eric and backing him with more Dutch players!! best in class remember lol
Finally someone saying it how it is
No excuses
Thanks lads saying how it is no bullshit straight to the truth love United ❤️ hate glaziers
Webby nailed it. Problem will be the same all season though there's no goals in this side and no real alternative on the side companied with Erik's non way of playing we're going to struggle all year.
The first half of this vid is like a comedy skit. Haven’t seen Tony not able to get a word in 😂. I commented last week that Ten Hag needs to stay and succeed but if you use the barometer of how frustrated Webby is I really can’t see Ten Hag lasting the season. This is United and we all just want to see some football that’s worthy of the badge.
Webby well done for calling out Martinez
Gotta love Webby! Says it how it is! 👍
Great listen and spot on. Glad Webby got that off his chest 😂
The honest version with no frills. Love it when Webby comes on. A lot of the players aren't good enough. The manager is woefull, and should have gone. I was pleased to hear Webby slag off rotation. The great players played nearly every game. You had your best eleven, they played, unless it was a weaker opposition. The training at Utd is pathetic. And the attitude of players is worse. For me the big problems with no goals are two fold. Playing hold ball. This stupid necessity to walk the ball into the box. Instead of looking for runners and bunging in long balls behind. And on a similar note. Selfish players with no pass mentality. I'm taking the shot, stuff you. Rooney scored most goals for us, but also look at the assists. You look at Harry Kane. Scores goals but also sets up goals. We have Rashford, run in, long range shot. Gets lucky sometimes, mostly wild. Bruno peppers the stands with high long range shots. And Garnacho, head down, arse up, until he runs into something. All these guys have to do is kick a ball for extortionate amounts of money. I can't feel sorry for them. Dream bloody job. I laboured on construction sites for 43 years. Many injuries. Body is knackerd. Worked mostly six days a week, with few holidays. Retire broke. These make more in a year than I did in a lifetime for kicking a ball a few times a week. Harden up it isn't tough work. You have the chance to play a game for good money. Get on with it.
Webby bang on...We could sort left back and midfield out, but we still won't score enough goals to compete in the Prem. Even my missus says I'm like a broken record every year saying we haven't signed any proven goal scorers. I said it before we kicked the season off and I was desperate to be proven wrong, but we can't hit a barn door with a banjo and the decisions in the last third has been a nightmare.
Long road ahead guys.
Good point from Webby regarding a back three and packing out midfield.
I was at Cardiff in 73 or 74 at Ninian Park. I am sure Tony was there also.
We have been through everything following this magnificent football club ❤
Whats ur thoughts on the manager?
Why do teams play out from the back , all you do is invite pressure onto your back four and in UTDs case we are just not good enough. You cannot concede if the ball is in the opponents half and you never know we might actually get a chance to score.
Big up lads
All 3 you lads are my favourites on youtube and always happy when you post.real ones ❤
Good comments from Webby you can feel his hurt like us all things have to change asap
These guys are proper old school, brilliant to listen to their thoughts
Go Webby, Go. What you are saying is the plain truth, Greetings from Norway.
Great video lads! Obviously would prefer us to be talking about the positives and signs of improvement but this start to the season has been shocking and this needed to be said!
Absolutely
Im worried for Webby...keep him away from the canal ffs🤣 Bang on as always gents👍👍👍
love Webby speaking truth. We are rubbish and have been for 10 years
Fact is Evans was brought up to fight for that shirt, the others just don't have it. No backbone. nothing has changed in the way we play, Ten Hag is hoping for something to click (in his words) that's not how to manage a club. He has to make things happen. for me it's time he goes, it's only a matter of a time, that's obvious to us all.
Good one! I agree with a lot of what Webby is saying! Go on lads!
Spot on Webby. Eths obsession with signing Dutch players is baffling. Neither of our strikers would get in league one team and don't start me on Rashford. Manager should have gotten the gate in June but they messed it up.
Keep it Going
Great Content
You gotta love Webby's passion......
Dalot for me also, but what is going on at left back?!
Keep telling it like it is lads.
Brilliant show lads.
The issue is, they can't find Tags replacement.. 6 managers refused the offer .....
You're stuck with Tag 😂😂😂
Spot on Ten has done his best to ruin Amada career horrible man
Webby is everyone of us!!!
Totally agree with you lads ,brilliant and honest
We have Ruud coaching and our forwards and not good enough. Why is he here.
Tony said Utd's performance against Villa was tremendous and some Players were brilliant. Webby was being honest and not delusional.
TBH they played good enough not to lose with some luck. Eth is not stupid. Need a real good goal scorer. Bruno was close but most of time just kicks the ball randomly and passes are high risk Hollywood passes. He needs a break.
Both Webby & O'Neil's comments on this clip ARE 100% correct. We are in a mess, the manager is the one to go.
It's like 1989 again! I remember when Zar in The Red Issue used to call it 'Alex C Ferguson's Mysterious World', because of his strange team selections. It's like going back 35 years in time!
Where is Fray Bentos ? Shaw is a chump,,Malacia wtf
We keep saying 5 goals take Southampton out and it's 2 goals.Most teams from Holland would be 15th in the premiership. Great show lads.
I’m always reluctant to rattle off the problems at Man Utd, and list the underperforming players because it sounds like reactionary off-loading, but Martinez for all his United “DNA” in terms of grit, tenacity, that bit of devil in him that we love, he is a liability.
Bruno shouldn’t even be at the club.
Mainoo has ghosted all season, the novelty of his jinky runs & a couple of classy goals from last season have wore off, now it’s time to show us what he brings to the party on a consistent basis, and he’s absent, he’s not aggressive enough, he’s not imposing himself, he’s not involved in the heart of the play, and he does walk around with a strut like he’s big time, well let’s see him dominate games, or at least have the intent to.
Garnacho, no core strength, runs out gas, muscled off the ball, hit & miss with his end product. I could go on through the whole side.
To be honest that sounds like what they used to say about Pallister, Ronaldo and Giggs. Look how they turned out
@@summan41man eh? Giggs won PFA Young Player of the Year, two years on the bounce, in his 2nd & 3rd season. He ripped it up in 93/94 as well. He got a bit of mild criticism around 95-97 for his crossing, and inconsistency, but he was always a threat, and Giggsy always had that man about him, even when he was 18-19, he was a man, he could compete with and beat men. Garnacho ain’t 40% of what Ryan Giggs was at that age.
Ronaldo was 10 year later, I mean, you’re picking players from decades apart, I’m telling you the whole squad right now is bang average, and there’s little to be optimistic about. Not one of these players is showing any promise at all. Just red flags everywhere.
@@TrueRed1994 the weakness reference you used for Garnacho was always applied to Giggsy
@@summan41man Giggs was very strong tho, wiry but still had a lot of core strength. I don’t trust garnacho when he’s in a footrace, or shoulder to shoulder. His end product is something that can be worked on, but his physicality will always hold him back
@TrueRed1994 some of the best comments I've read on posts across the United forums etc....bang on.
Legends you both pair well said 👍
Go on webby lad 👏
Spot on Webby, the Ineos "best in category" team have bought a lot of journey men and I don't think Ten Hag wanted them, and it shows. Ten Hag just wants out but wants his pay out.
I agree. It’s an abomination the changes he makes. He has a win win situation. He get$ fired ? Running to the bank , he knew man utd gave away money like candy on Halloween. He conned the club fans etc. I never got fired from a job and received millions for not doing my job. ! 😂😂
@@robertnegron9706 I think he was pissed off with the whole applying for his own job shit Ineos did after the cup final and has bided his time, plus he clearly didn't want most, if not all the pre season signings to the point it's reminding me of Ole and Van De Beek. The problem is Ratcliffe. He has enabled the Glazers to stay and he appears to be too tight to pay off Ten Hag and bin him, well until we lose a few more league games and begin to knock on the relegation door. Another fucking wasted season.
Brilliant webby, zirkzee looks like he's playing in wellies 🤣🤣
Football was better under Ron Atkinson
100%. Ralph Milne would walk into this current team 🙈
Football was better under The Doc.
Love Big Ron
Hard but true😢
👏👏👏👏👏 agree with you webby 100%, it’s boring , no style of play , no plan , no idea. If you can’t sort it out in 2.5 years then surely your in the wrong job, infact the stats are getting worse instead of better 🤷
Love it, Webby 😂 get it off your shoulders, pal. I wish I could be next to ya and spill my guts, too. Unfortunately, it's just eating away at me inside and destroying my soul. Regardless, though, we keep the red flag flying high ❤
Glad to see webby dry and out the canal😂. Solid discussion from old school reds you carnt get anywhere else. Only point i disagreed with was the Dalot one webby, he's no where near it for me for a top right back. Agree about Kobbie & Martinez. 👍🏽
Much appreciated
Webby is spot on about being entertained! But I can't see EtH playing a type of football that we enjoy. I'd rather put him out of his misery now and line someone up that can cope with the pressure of managing United
That'll be no one then in it's current state.
When was the last time United dominated even three games in a row ???
United's issue is it's always been the greatest club for "moments" and our counter attack philosophy shows it, we never dominate in Europe apart from 2007-2009... and traditionally play underdog against Madrid, Bayern, Milan etc.
I just think the ship has sailed, especially if City win that court case. The true greats join Madrid or Barcelona they haven't ever come here apart from Ronaldo and Rooney as kids in my lifetime. We don't get the Zidane's, R9's, Messi's and don't have a country to pay them like Haaland at City. I don't really see how we do much of anything in Europe as we just don't have the pull for the best at their peak years. It's a fact we don't.
Also when people keep saying we are the biggest club. We ain't unless we don't count Madrid and Barcelona as clubs these days. We are third at best (which is granted still pretty good) but De Jong wouldn't come here for any amount of money which was telling.
Brilliant Webby... tell it how it is mate!
I love it when they mention going in the canal😂
Evans has had 1 decent game. He's shot.
Ten Hag doesn't know his best 11? He doesn't know his arse from his elbow!
The guys clueless, webby is right. Hes lost all ideas , he plays the same formation all the time why play inverted wingers when our strikers are getting zero service? Try playing a left footer on the left and a right footer on the right and get some crosses in ! And maybe if we need a goal like against villa its ok to put more strikers on take some fucking risk. Its what manchester united are all about....maybe im too old school but get at um and win 4-3 some excitement needed. Keep up the good work lads.
The goals have dried up for us, ever since Ruud replaced Benny.
Hmm 🤔
Not much to say after all that lads ,totally agree with most of what's been said ,but NOWTS changed in 2 years ,pleased with 2 cups but we are awful from top to bottom ,great listening from proppa reds talking from the heart,it's gotta change cos we are in shit street an I'm 😤😤😤😤just like you.UTFR KTF.💪💪💪👍
Lads ten hags first season was 15+ goal difference at the end of the season...2nd season -10 this season think we are -4 or -5 that's enough for me
Tony and Webby Ara spot on but I believe the team will get it right soon life up the manager and player's please it's our team will you down your child never, stand by them. From South Africa Cape Town. Love you all.
You know when you’re having a conversation with your mate who’s only interested in what he’s saying ?!?!? lol 😂
Webby lol. Needed to clear his chest didn't he
tony hated every minute of that, he was desperate to get his excuses in for the players crap performances but webby was having none of it
We are Not playing as a Team
Put the reserves in
i thought we were bog standard against fulham ,1st match of the season.thats where we are at fulham standard
As united fans we just keep going round in circles. One minute it's the players then it's the manager or it's who's buying these players? . It's the glazers who've ruined our club but no one cares anymore
to adapt my previous comment its now the second week of October and Man Utd have scored one goal at home , its done its over the only thing left are those that talk about the compensation fee , hes a nervous wreck when being interviewed its done. Ratcliffe has sacked every book keeper, cleaner ,club historian like a puffed out bully , sort it out , the bully snide.
Ipswich put 2 past em and should of beat em we didn't have 2 shots
Poor old Tony can't get a word in 😂😂
Thanks legends for the honest analysis❤
Hate to say it but I’m worried about ineos keeping ten hag. They have done anything with the clubs they own I think we just all think this is guaranteed to work. The only shed of light if ineos fail then the glazers might decide to fully sell up we have been crap for 10 years
Gentlemen, 4-4-2 and an All-black attitude (Legacy by James Kerr). United book co-authored by Michael Carrick and Roy Kean for players and staff only. Best to all. Kev.
Can someone tell Webby to speak slowly and clearly for some of us who are not British. This channel is engaging when Kieron and pops are on. Webby should understand he's speaking to an audience all over the world who follow this channel because of the O’Neill. I'm glad Webby doesn't feature regularly. Poor communication skills
Has anyone thought that ETH is under direction to play a certain way and to do it with youth? And that has led to a dis-jointed team where there are too many boys and that is putting strain on the senior players. There is a senior back line, hence the clean sheets and draws and lack of goals.
Webby just said everything we’ve been saying. Rashford been crap for a year, never dropped. The minute he gets a goal and an assist he gets subbed. Same with the center halves. ETH’s subs are wild.
Webby and O'Neill we the United fans do hear both of u but are the players learning from the comments and improve the standard of the game
Van gaal getting rid of Evan’s in 2015 was criminal
Won a competition to play with his heroes 😅😅😅😅😅😅
ETH.. don't expect me to make United play the way I had Ajax playing bec it doesn't work the same. ETH proceeds to sign all his old Ajax players and still can't figure out a system that works 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ the players look clueless as to what they're supposed to be doing and us fans are even more baffled as to what is supposed to be happening.
Spot on webby as usual zirkzee and hojlund please make me eat my words cos they don't look like goalscorers and a team that doesn't create for the forwards is gonna make it harder still coming Erik change something
We werent going to get kane out of spurs for anything less than 150mil. The only reason spurs let him go is because he wanted to go and bayern isn’t in our league. Levy was never letting kane go to united he even made a back handed comment about the price being 200mil to united. I agree we needed an experienced striker but we simply couldn’t afford one.
Mctominay does give his all BUT he doesn't have the quality.
They won't sack ten haag because it comes down to money the pay off and new manager and staff payments could be nearly 40mill ....
The plsyers this club buys. Awful. A self inflicted downfall. There is not one world class player in this team.
Bang on pal EHT signings have Ben absolute gash.
This is his team now and we're going backwards
Webby tells it how it is, he's not being negative he's telling the truth you cannot gloss this up its just awful.He's passionate about man United and it's killing him watching our beloved clubs standards fall to this.We spent plenty of cash (600m) on bang average players.
We should not compare us with the top 4. We are just not ready. And it takes years to get to that level. Everyone was enthusiastic about Bruno in the beginning of the season now only critics. He is tired and rotation is the solution. You see how many players are injured all ready at several teams. We need to rotate with players, no other solution. This is a long season. Judge them in February not now. Way to early
Lads , once again best United show. Just need to relax and be patient. Remember , if we’d have reacted how people are reacting now back in the late eighties there would have been no Ferguson and all the glory days. Ferguson was allowed time …six years before the title was won . Finished 11th twice and 13th in those first years ! Do well to remember that.
So should we have given Moyes 6 years? 😂😂😂
Madrid, Bayern, Barca, Juve...none of these clubs give a manager even 2-3 years to prove themselves. Just because we gave Fergie time 40 years ago doesn't mean every Dick and Jane that becomes manager needs 4 years.
@@manutd231261 honestly this is the most mind numbing logic that I hear get parroted. SAF was appointed on the back of a SACKING!! Ron Atkinson finished 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 4th, and won two FA Cups. If he wasn’t sacked, there is no SAF.
You’re living in cuckoo land, and thinking lighting is gonna strike twice. Just because it happened with Fergie, a one in a million manager, doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen now, you’re just too desperate to try and recreate history. SAF didn’t spend €700 and park €350 of it on the bench. You know what SAF did, he bought Choccy, Brucey, Sparky, Sharpey, Incey, Pally, within his first 1-3 years. He finished 2nd in his first full season and Choccy was top scorer with 30+ goals, that’s credit & trust in the bank right out the gate. Sparky was top scorer the following two seasons, his signings all showed promise. Plus, he had far more gravitas for what he done with Aberdeen. There’s absolutely no similarities at all between Ten Hag and SAF
Webby is spot on
I dont think the players are having bad spells there no getting coached properly. Every player whos played for united in the last 2 years have been rubbish even the new signings.
How many games has ETH had and he’s still saying he doesn’t know his starting 11. He’s just an embarrassment to the club and needs to go.