When WIlson and his politically correct (always follow the money) enablers come to cancel you, and they will, remember that you are not alone. We stand with you and will continue to pray for you. Truth and justice will, ultimately, prevail.
My dear sister @susysuzan7168, Although I believe that God has more of His children and different denominations that at His time will call them out of them ( and He still doing it), being part of SDA denomination is not wrong per say. God even inspired not only the idea to be organized as one; and even spired its name, as EGW showed it. The main purpose is to be a movement with a special message to this end time. Not a church or denomination more. We need to be faithful to God and His commitments; otherwise, our denomination existence will lose its purpose. 🩵🙏🏼
@@flower1927That's not true! Your just parroting the lies of EGW and the SDA church false doctrins. The lady is right. God's remnant people are from all walks of life. The remnant is not the SDA church. Ya'll have been brainwashed by the SDA teachings and false gospel.
I admire Dr. Vine and thanked him for standing for the truth of God ! We don't follow the precepts of men. We have and follow " the patience of the saints, The Commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". These leaders have sold their soul for money. But we will pray for them for they need our prayers.
Thank-you for sharing the truth about the dangers of vaccination. Our church has been lied to about this subject! May we all be like Conrad Vine and be courageous and stand strong for Jesus and the right way in these end times.
People should have done their own homework on it. The info was there. I got lots of info from doctors who ended up censored, some ended up dead from those powers of the puppet masters! Too many SDA relied on men and we're not supposed to trust men.
Dear soul, if you are bitten by a rabid dog or bat, would you stick with your opinion that vaccines are dangerous? Perhaps disinformation is more dangerous. Your thoughts?
The BIBLE PLAINLY ASKS SDA BIBLE BELIEVING CONVERTED "FINISH the RACE BAPTIZED SDA MEMBERS into the BLOOD of CHRIST" to COME OUT from amoung them AND BE YE SEPARATE, TOUCH NOT the UNCLEAN THING, AND "I AM" WILL RECEIVE YOU" IT is NOT HARD to UNDERSTAND but one NEEDS the TRUE "FAITH, ONCE DELIVERED to the SAINTS" and it becomes PLAIN, SIMPLE & EASY. AMEN. THEY call the people to GODLY COUNTRY LIVING saying GET OUT of the CITIES, GET OUT of the CITIES, as .much as YOU are ABLE ... BUT THEN THEY SAY, "O you must GO back into the CITIES to GET YOUR VACCINATIONS? WHAT?, .. Are YOU for REAL, WHERE might I ASK, WHERE is the FAITH & CONCISTENCY in that REASONING?😢😢😢
Why did you wait so long? Ever since the acceptance and push of the trinity respect should have gone out the window. Anyway, I say this with some humor.
History repeats like Father is his son. All started 1903 Anderson went with the living temple, then Leroy Froom the Masonic mason infiltrated search you shall find. The SDA WAS IN APOSTASY FROM 1903…
May God continue to bless Pastor Vine. Please pray for him and his family. For the past 6 months I have been diverting my tithes to those who I know will use it for its intended purposes. Thank God for opening my eyes. pastor Ted Wilson and his faithful followers need to repent and then go. Including the many SDA pastors who are not prepared to stand for truth.
I've been sending my tithe and offerings for several years to independent SDA pastors including Elder John Carter at the Carter Report who provide free Bibles in Russia, Ukraine, China and many other places to new Christians who never had a Bible. I feel good using funds to spread the Gospel this way!
The most dangerous type of deception is the one that combines mostly truth with a little error. But that little amount of error can do the most amount of damage to the church. This is why Conrad vine is dangerous because he speaks a lot of truth, and then goes off on his own tangents and defies what the spirit of prophecy has said. regarding tithes and the creation of factions or splits. Tell me where in the spirit of prophecy or in the Bible do you find the council to create churches within gods and church . The leadership of the church is still the leadership of the church, even if they are not perfect . God will weed out leadership in his time . Rebuke all you want there’s nothing wrong with its rightful name and holding leadership accountable but when you start to insinuate that a new organization needs to take place within the existing one, then you are strange from God’s way.
Also remember they gave the whole Loma Linda University Medical center exemption because over 3,000 said they would quit if they forced the shot on them, so the Medical center couldn't take that kind of hit all at once so they let them have religious exemptions! It has been kept pretty secret, but I have the inside info from my chiropractor whose wife works there.
Pastor Bohr has been breaking the 7th day Sabbath every year at his campmeetings. He says it's OK because he gives Great Controversy books to the restaurant staff who serves him food.
@@lindaschipansky4429 Yes linda. They have their campmeetings at a hotel over a weekend, and on the holy Sabbath, they have restaurant staff serve them food. That is so hypocritical, and wrong.
I called Religious Liberty to seek help and the lady on the phone said that they couldn't help me and that she was also on the verge of losing her job there!! 😢😡💔
Amen Pastor Vine for speaking truth,l pray the Lord will continue to bless you ,we are truly in the end days,scripture is been fulfilled,stay strong in the Lord Pastor ❤
Be harmless Lambs and wise as serpents. We are not called to hate, or divide. Pray for our church and for the spirit of God. This maybe the beginning of the final shaking.
Our whole life is about a paycheck. Are we willing to sacrifice it for our eternal life? Abraham showed us what to do when he was WILLING TO SACRIFICE ISSAC. This is a REAL TEST, not a TRIAL RUN.
Thank you for putting this together. An old saying “Heads should roll” is often used to say justice should be done. If these tyrants and deceivers don’t repent and change their walk on this issue then they will receive a judgement beyond our imagination. Christ died for them as well as us. I pray they come to humility in their walk and repent with fullness of heart.
Regarding Pastor Wilson’s statement the problem which I do not think they address was the point of religious liberty, the church did not protect its members against the mandates of the government! Sad days, and more to follow! Keep your eyes lifted to Jesus our only hope!
@@skystoneLaw And Vine said in his controversial sermon that the para-church could incorporate. He's only awake to so much. I do not trust any preachers anymore. It could all be a Hegelian within a Hegelian. Vine, Veith, & Gates all worship a false Trinity god.
@skystoneLaw It is a corporation. The name is copyright, or you will be sued if you use it. The church has stepped off the foundation and Fundamental Principles of 1872. It is a new organization as of 1980, Masquerading as the Remnant. The real Remnant will be underground churches. They have separated from the apostasy. The scriptures are our only safeguard. ❤
Jesus overturned the tables of the money changers in the temple. And He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’ ” Matthew 21:13)
It takes courage under the influence of the Holy Spirit to do what Pastor Vine has done It was not him but the Spirit of God using him as a his mouth piece. God is calling for men who CANNOT be bought or sold men who are true to Him as the needle to the pole. God bless Pastor Vine God's man for the times. Let us pray for him and his family and all other leaders who recognise that they are servants hence they are willing to stand for truth no matter the outcome May God keep us faithful.
In Mathew 24, Jesus warned us of false prophets at the end, whoever raises against the church is doing Satan's work. Be careful brothers and sisters , God is watching and cannot be fooled. It is not our calling to judge our leadership but to preach the Gospel.
Very good commentary and analysis! However two corrections…Johnathan Zirkle is not a pastor but an attorney. Secondly, Doug Batchelor does not work for the GC or any conference. He is the speaker for Amazing Facts. He never mandated vaccines for people to keep their jobs! I’m praying for Dr. Vine. Stephen Bohr should not have cancelled him!!🙏🙏🙏
The leadership was wrong. They can be stiff-necked and refuse to admit or see this, if that is the choice they make then they are not leading according to the example of Jesus or the advice of Paul. I was shocked when the church shut its doors during COVID. My parents were also and they never stopped their food and shelter ministries although both are in their 80s. I have never treated fellow humans like they had a disease and I refuse to start. What an opportunity to have a place of love and grace during a time when so many were deceived and scared. Other churches in other places chose to stay open. Pastors were arrested joyfully. I did not take the vaccine and I absolutely believe the church is to be a bastion of protection for conscience of its people. Not a promoter of government to keep its tax status. That is the joining of church and state that brought so much persecution by the Catholic Church and will again. Pastor Vine is following the advice of Paul “let every man be convicted in his own mind”. We stand in judgment alone. I am shocked that this leader tried to shut down these people. That is tyranny that does not belong in the church so remove him.
We should never have a "church" manual or creed. Sister White spoke against this. The 1872 Fundamental Principles were the foundation to stand on, all Bible based. 😊
That case about the young Australian teacher is tragic and unfortunately too late now but as Dr Vine mentioned he had previously had a bad reaction to vaccines which here in the states is a reason for exemption. He should’ve been given a medical exemption.
This is such a shame, all truths will be revealed in every area, even in the churches . Judgement starts in the church .Thank you for this video and also for defending Dr Vine
One last thing, I am not SDA. I, like you are the Israel of God. That was the name given by God to his people. Not a nation, not a race but a people ordained by Jesus Christ to carry his message of salvation to all the world. He is utilizing other people across this world you are not alone! I love you all. Shalom
I like what you said. I don't claim to be an Sda, I won't even call myself a Christian for if I did I would be taking the name of the Lord in vain. One thing I do tell others is that I follow Christ and bible and I want to be a Christian in my heart. Happy Sabbath brother.
@user-ox5ks7bu8g In the Holy Bible we are called saints every last one of us that has repented and accepted the BLOOD COVENANT OF JESUS THAT HE SHELD ALL THE TO THE CROSS . So we don't pray to saints , because we are saints , and we PRAY only to JEHOVAH AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON JESUS MESSIAH . SHALOM .
@user-ox5ks7bu8gI am also a One True God believer, reject thr Trinity. I am an Seventh Day Adventist that follows the teachings of our pioneers, the Fundamental Priniciples of 1872. No trinity there.
I hear people speak a lot about the SDA organisation as being a remnant church and I wonder what is wrong with our theology. How is it that SDA Church claims to be both Laodecia and Remnant at the same time? Is that possible for two opposite characters to exist in one character at the same time? The SDA organised church was never the remnant church. It was organised well into the Laodicean period. There is no organised church which keeps God's commandments nor has ever done so. Do you even think about the sheer audacity of identifying ourselves as a group of people who keep all of God's commandments simply because we speak about them in church (and mostly the Sabbath) and write about them in our literature? That despite the obvious faults, sins and even evil that takes place among us so much? Can you imagine how pharisaical that audacity is? I am shocked when some think that they can reform the organisation. It is not the organisation that is to be reformed, it never needs reform neither can it be reformed. Believers are reformed individually not corporately!
Satan has ever worked overtime to separate God's people from Christ in every religion that claims Him as their Savior. We are no different. I truly believe that when we started we were headed in the right direction and we are preaching/teaching things, biblical truth, that many other are not and for that I believe we are a remnant of the true church/teachings of Christ 2,000 years ago. That does not mean we are all saints...there will ALWAYS be wolves in sheep's clothing just as there were in Paul's day. Jesus said let the "wheat grow with the tares" and HE will sort it out in the end. Those of us who keep our eyes on Jesus will not be deterred by those leaving and/or denigrating the Adventist faith...I do not believe you have to be a baptized Adventist to be saved but those that endure to the end and "keep the Commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" Rev 12:17, 14:12, 22:14 Keep praying for all involved and keep your eyes on Jesus!
@@smlid The Bible does not identify the remnant by what it teaches, but by what it does - keep commandments of God. No organised church can do that. It is Laodicea which is identified by claiming what it is not, i.e. being holy when it is not. So the more Adventists claim to be remnant, the more evidence they provide that they are actually Laodicea instead. The moment you say this "That does not mean we are all saints...there will ALWAYS be wolves in sheep's clothing just as there were in Paul's day" it means the identity of remnant cannot be placed on the whole group. Therefore, the remnant can never be the whole church.
"The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her midst. If Christ were formed within, the hope of glory, conformity to His image would be seen, and the church trials which separate the members from Christ would disappear." 13LtMs, Ms 156, 1898, par. 10 Individually, each of us must divorce Laodicea and return to the church of Philadelphia. Many will die in the Lord as members of Philadelphia and only 144,000 will be translated in that state of brotherly love. Jesus help us all!
The church of Christ cannot stay in Laodicea, or they will be spewed out. Laodicea means an adjudged people. The church structure we need to be in is Philadelphia. Compare the 2 in Rev. 3. We have to overcome in order to sit down and sup with Him in the Kingdom. To remain in Laodicea is to be lukewarm. Be in that church of brotherly love and be a pillar in His temple, bearing the name of God in your foreheads, the new Jerusalem, and Jesus' new name. ❤
Thank you the servant of God for the exposure. God is using you in a special way. God's people will go down fighting without fear and triumph with the help of our Lord Jesus Christ.
When you are a seeing person, it's baffling that a blind person can't (or will not) see. For example, I see that, contrary to the language of the official statement posited by the General Conference, the church supported the administration of the vaccine. My pastor actively inquired as to who wanted to take the vaccine, made a master list, shared it with the local department of Health and made arrangements for the DOH to come to church grounds to administer the vaccine. In other words, the church supported members' conscientious assent to taking the vaccine. On the other hand, when I needed the church's support in supporting my conscientious objection with a exemption letter, the leadership refused to stand with me. And somehow, they cant see that the church's position is biased. Freedom of conscience must be supported in accordance with Scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy. Today when we now know that the stuff they call vaccines are not really vaccines in the traditional sense, that they were mRNA vehicles for effecting crazy responses in the body, the still church refuses to change, to ask forgiveness. The GC is digging in. History is repeating itself --the very Reformation history the SDDA church have been expounding for the last 200 years. Tell me, how are our leaders acting any differently than Dr. John Eck, Aleandro and their peers in this crucial point in this great controversy?
Thank you for sharing this. People do not understand. The GC wanted to enforce the Biden Mandates for Advent Health and several conferences. They were not standing up for their people. It would have left not a faithful soul in the entire denomination.
I have been depressed for over a week now. I have known for a very long time that the GC is not doing the will of God for a very long time. Mrs. White told us that way back in the times from 1901 to 1905. She told us that way back then that the then GC needed to be disband and a new group needs to be formed. That was over a hundred years ago so we are very slow to learn. She also stopped giving her tithe money to the GC and gave it directly to where God was being honored and followed. Money rules the GC and our denominational work. I know that the GC loves to quote from TM&GW page 15 to claim that Mrs White says the GC will go through to the end but you need to turn the page to 16 where she makes it clear the PEOPLE or God's are chosen people and they are the "CHURCH". Gods people where ever they are or His chosen people that constitute His Church. It is not the GC that constitute His church which is very obvious by what is being done by and through the GC. Get out the Bible and SP books and read. We need the truth alive and living in us now more than ever,
And to think the GC took C 19 $ when the y have billions of dollars stored. The SDA corporation is in the Fortune 500 club. It's not a church but a business.
it feels like the conference should've taken their own advice and not been the first to cancel Dr. Vine 2 Tim 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth
BTW in april 2020 when c. started, God gave me a 3 night/part vision. and even when they were also saying "if we quarantine for 14 days all will be well (their usual lies) God told me right then and there not to take the va xx... when I didn't even know there would come one... and he kept repeating it to me for over a year... so I knew... but why did I know??? BECAUSE I TRY TO KEEP CLOSE TO GOD EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE and He is close to me.. I seek only TRUTH and not what flatters me, I seek the Kingdom of God no matter what and not to follow the lies of Laodicea. And in my vision (3 night/parts) He showed me this is the end. And the return of Christ. Took about a year before churches started talking about it.
I see Pastor Stephen Bohr and many other conference leaders have a work to do. There need to come out clean and repent for misleading God's people during the pandemic
What upset Stephen Bohr was the fact that Pastor Vine said that people should stop paying tithes to the conference who don’t do the right job for God so in other words money is more important to the GC than the word to go further they are ruled by the Devil this is so very sad 😢😢😢
Honestly, we should all replace our tithes in the hands of the true workers of God. The hands of the true ministers. The GC has no respect for us or for God's work. Jesus will soon return, and the work has to be done. We need to replace the resources in the right place and the right hands. Let's pray for spiritual discernment. 🙏
I believe that some conferences will fall, and I believe there are faithful churches out there in her woke churches out there. God will take care of it, and I will attend a faithful church.
This reminds me of the Loma Linda Train Station Vision, ref: e.g. White, told and recorded by brother Elmer M. Johnson. "The Storm Is Coming" "The Straight Testimony Will Cause The Shaking" ** Isn't there a shaking going on, being intensified at present in the SDA Churches, as many seem to think and agree with? Seems so to me too. "The Straight Testimony is causing a shaking within the SDA Church." We must needs pray for our SDA Church Leaders and all else, including ourselves. Who shall abide the shaking? Who will be among the Sealed of God? Who will say, "Here am I, Lord, Send me?" "Lord, send/ use my means, however small or insignificant my means may be!?!" The world is watching us and waiting for us to get our action together, - in the Lord. They will know that we are Christians by the love we have for each other; - all skirmishes and differences put away. Are we going to continually disappoint the peoples/ the other sheep "which are not yet of His fold?" Could the Church Triumph be just around the corner? - being in the birth pains period?? Just Wow, but with a sober excitement, and a praise the Lord, Amen. 🙏🙏🙏
Like father [Neal Wilson] like son [Ted Wilson]. The father steamrolled true for the acceptance of the trinity doctrine at the 1980 GC Session, - the son pushed through the vote for vaccination. How sad.
Some have been dissatisfied and have said: “I will not longer pay my tithe; for I have no confidence in the way things are managed at the heart of the work.” But will you rob God because you think the management of the work is not right? Make your complaint, plainly and openly, in the right spirit, to the proper ones. Send in your petitions for things to be adjusted and set in order; but do not withdraw from the work of God, and prove unfaithful, because others are not doing right. Read carefully the third chapter of Malachi and see what God says about the tithe. If our churches will take their stand upon the Lord's word and be faithful in paying their tithe into His treasury, more laborers will be encouraged to take up ministerial work. More men would give themselves to the ministry were they not told of the depleted treasury. There should be an abundant supply in the Lord's treasury, and there would be if selfish hearts and hands had not withheld the tithes or made use of them to support other lines of work. . 9T 249.2-9T 249.3
The speaker in this video is mistaken. Conrad Vine never said that people should not take the vaccine. His stance was that the church should support each individual's choice based on their impression of the Holy Spirit.
Pastor Bohr’s last comment was as, “he (God) will and he will take measures to correct it in his own time and when. Maybe this is that time and he doesn’t realize it.
The church is not an organization. It's easy to talk. It's another to do the walk. The only way is with christ in you. I pray they come into repentence, amen.
What Pastor Wilson said was correct, Church never force any member to take vaccine, I in Indonesia never hear that. I took the vaccine because i need a job since i have to take flight any time and visit the other country as a seaman
Jeremiah 17:5-8 KJV [5] Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. [6] For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. [7] Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. [8] For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
The name remnant church means there will be a shaking and what will remain will be the remnant on one side and the beast on the other. We are very close
Disgusting GC handling of the issues that are very Important to the delegates and many many people… FOR SHAME Ted Wilson Agreed … this is now a MARKET PLACE AND LET THE TABLES BE VIOLENTLY TURNED OVER AS DID Jesus when he walked here on earth God bless Dr Vine Godspeed SDA family ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Walter Veith was against it from the start. He is a scientists and explained purely based on science and biology why this is dangerous. And he also explained who invented vaxx in general years ago. in the 1st place. Want to take a guess?????? It is one of the WUP ep.
Conrad Vine is the man of the time. I am confident God has not shown disapproval for what he has preached. His message makes sense concerning the End-time Commandment Keeping People.
DR. VINE , WE ARE BEHIND YOU! KEEP FIGHTING FOR THE TRUTH ! I KNOW ONE CHURCH ACCEPTING WOKE, SO I STOPPED GOING AND GIVING TITHES! INSTEAD I JUST DONATE TO CUHRCH PLANTING IN SOME OTHER PLACES!
You mentioned in those names Ted Wilson and Steven bhor. You also said Doug Batchelor who I heard from his own lips in a vespers video with Karen that he did not take the vaccine and he also said he didn't even take flu shots. So you would have to show me how you include Doug Batchelor among those others who I do agree with you. But I don't believe that Doug condoned the vaccination, or push for it, he believed it was up to the individual, that doesn't mean he pushed for it
@sharonunger1479 I agree. Pastor Doug is my pastor and I've heard him speak out against abortion and it's my understanding he and Karen chose not to receive the vaccine. He has been "cancelled" like Conrad Vine in the past and received a lot of criticism because he stands for Present Truth which the corporate SDA GC seems to want our pastors to dilute and tone down.
Yes, Please apologize to Pastor Doug. He does not work for the conference and he has never pushed or mandated the vaccine! We are members of his church. He never closed the Granite Bay Church for one day during Covid even when all the conference churches were closed and never required masks. He believes in the liberty of conscience!!
@prescillafitzpatrick5424 Why would he contradict himself by Refusing to take it and tell others it safe. As Judge Judy says (love that woman) if it doesn't make sense it's not true
FYI - Doug Batchlor did not promote the jab...also, Jonathan Zirkle is an attorney and advocates truth and God granted freedoms of our land and its people. (Was not pastoring)
@@thirdangelsmessage1669 interesting...i go to his church & never heard it... he also had conrad vine come and speak... must have been another venue. What video can I find it now I'm curious? BTW Thanks for the great dialog! We're in need of repentance and healing from the fear driven decisions made during that time of testing. Blessings on your ministry!
Mind blowing how it all comes down to a paycheck! Sadly, many within the ministry are not in it for the ministerial role but a paycheck. Many will not speak out because they know they too will be marginalized, blacklisted, shut down, threatened...for those who don't think this is possible, you are now witnessing the true colors of many. I am a third generation SDA and it's appalling to see a movement become an institution governed by political driven agendas. EGW said it best, " “The greatest want of the world is the want of men-men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature-the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man... God will serve His justice.
What did the SOP say to us about unions, etc and SDA? Why do the SDA Church not take heed to Bible doctrines, and godly principles, but insist on trying to silence the consciences of God - fearing Pastors, lay- preachers, etc, etc. I do firmly agree with Pastor Conrad Vine's call for the certain church leaders , etc, to Step Down. **Repent ; Make Restitution for the wrongs that you have done. That's the Bible word. How were apostate kings and priests, etc., in Bible days dealt with by the Lord Himself, Pastor Stephen Bohr? Other? As for Pastor Conrad Vine's sermon, (sermons,) I fully do agree 1000%. **For God's sake and the gospel's , I stand in solidarity with Pastor Conrad Vine. * Other SDA pastors, church leaders, .., are you true to the Lord, and would you stand with this servant of God ? **The Church Militant will be transformed into the Church Triumphant; I believe that there is a Shaking in the SDA Church at present. 🙏🙏🙏
Found this recently. Saw the flag flying in a video and felt sick! The Vatican flag was flown at the Seventh-day Adventist's (SDA) 61st General Conference (GC) Session in St Louis, Missouri (MO) on June 11, 2022. While some church folk are okay with it and have offered stout defence, other members of the church are raising a red flag against the Vatican flag.Jun 26, 2022" Why would any SDA be ok with that?
@@thirdangelsmessage1669I am SDA and I never knew that there any issues with taking vaccines or not . I don’t understand why I would need an exemption or not as I have had and given different vaccines in my capacity.SDA’s have taken MMR ,Polio,Hep B , Yellow fever, TB , etc so I did not think that they ever asked for exemption because they just took them. Then we go to the hospitals when we are not well and take medication. So where in the church doctrines or Bible does it say we should or not take vaccines? Please show me ..
@@elviraroberts876 Go to the 29:27 mark and you will see the ingredients in these are contrary to the health message. Pork is one of the ingredients, dogs, monkeys, etc. All unclean to put into our bodies. But you are injecting this directly into your blood stream. Along with aluminum, formaldehyde, acetone, and many other things. As I shared in this presentation the Greek word Pharmakeia is used in Rev 18:23 and we are told all nations are deceived by it. It translates sorcery, witchcraft, but also poison in the strongs. This is what has happened to many. The story pastor Vine shared was one of thousands, and all of us know personally someone who has been affected by taking these things. There are even some in the comments here who have lost family members from the poison. It is a tragedy, and since it is in scripture, it is absolutely irresponsible of these pastors to be in positions they are and not understand this stuff from scriptures.
Well Mr Wilson, it is our choice too, weather to return tithes to the conference, and many thousands of us are deciding to do that now. Since you don't want to address the issue of concern. God bless!
God's enemies are of His own household. Started in heaven first. This is where the devil is god which means he hardly leaves anyone behind alive that is not corrupted. (he could have killed Job). Their life would only be saved due to being sealed and chosen to remain alive to see Christ return. To be spared Gods wrath. Time is up.
The GC should NEVER have taken the stand they did, BUT it was left for the individual to make the final decision and will have to give an account to God.
I do not envision Jesus investing in the stock market...Den of money changers and thieves. Yes, I say thieves. Thieves take Yah's funds and spend on eccumenical and climate change worldly issues.
Praise the Lord for Dr. Conrad Vine, standing for the truth of Jesus Christ as well as religious liberty🙏🏽💙👍🏽🙏🏽✊🏽🙏🏽💙🙏🏽
When WIlson and his politically correct (always follow the money) enablers come to cancel you, and they will, remember that you are not alone. We stand with you and will continue to pray for you. Truth and justice will, ultimately, prevail.
The church is a faithful and chosen people,not a building or a conference
and I might add......not a denomination either....God has His people scattered everywhere.
@@susysuzan7168amen ❤
@@donaldleblanc8730 well said
My dear sister
@susysuzan7168,
Although I believe that God has more of His children and different denominations that at His time will call them out of them ( and He still doing it), being part of SDA denomination is not wrong per say. God even inspired not only the idea to be organized as one; and even spired its name, as EGW showed it. The main purpose is to be a movement with a special message to this end time. Not a church or denomination more. We need to be faithful to God and His commitments; otherwise, our denomination existence will lose its purpose. 🩵🙏🏼
@@flower1927That's not true! Your just parroting the lies of EGW and the SDA church false doctrins. The lady is right. God's remnant people are from all walks of life. The remnant is not the SDA church. Ya'll have been brainwashed by the SDA teachings and false gospel.
God is exposing the true colors behind many SDA leaders.
Psalms 1 everybody!!!! Do not put your trust in man or follow the counsels of ungodly men.
I admire Dr. Vine and thanked him for standing for the truth of God ! We don't follow the precepts of men. We have and follow " the patience of the saints, The Commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". These leaders have sold their soul for money. But we will pray for them for they need our prayers.
Thank-you for sharing the truth about the dangers of vaccination. Our church has been lied to about this subject! May we all be like Conrad Vine and be courageous and stand strong for Jesus and the right way in these end times.
People should have done their own homework on it. The info was there. I got lots of info from doctors who ended up censored, some ended up dead from those powers of the puppet masters! Too many SDA relied on men and we're not supposed to trust men.
@@dianaparks5415 There is plenty of true information on the internet. The next pandemic could be a flying vaccine. (Moss key toe)
Dear soul, if you are bitten by a rabid dog or bat, would you stick with your opinion that vaccines are dangerous? Perhaps disinformation is more dangerous. Your thoughts?
The BIBLE PLAINLY ASKS SDA BIBLE BELIEVING CONVERTED "FINISH the RACE BAPTIZED SDA MEMBERS into the BLOOD of CHRIST" to COME OUT from amoung them AND BE YE SEPARATE, TOUCH NOT the UNCLEAN THING, AND "I AM" WILL RECEIVE YOU" IT is NOT HARD to UNDERSTAND but one NEEDS the TRUE "FAITH, ONCE DELIVERED to the SAINTS" and it becomes PLAIN, SIMPLE & EASY. AMEN. THEY call the people to GODLY COUNTRY LIVING saying GET OUT of the CITIES, GET OUT of the CITIES, as .much as YOU are ABLE ... BUT THEN THEY SAY, "O you must GO back into the CITIES to GET YOUR VACCINATIONS? WHAT?, .. Are YOU for REAL, WHERE might I ASK, WHERE is the FAITH & CONCISTENCY in that REASONING?😢😢😢
@@AlHart-w5g - I dare you to research and discover whether rabies even exits. We have all been hoodwinked with pseudoscience of Satan.
I lost ALL respect for Ted Wilson first shutting down discussion.
Why did you wait so long? Ever since the acceptance and push of the trinity respect should have gone out the window.
Anyway, I say this with some humor.
History repeats like Father is his son. All started 1903 Anderson went with the living temple, then Leroy Froom the Masonic mason infiltrated search you shall find. The SDA WAS IN APOSTASY FROM 1903…
The dirty 5 search that after Sr brother white passed and they took over the publishing.
Johnathan Zirkle should also receive much love for standing up as a lawyer for us at the GC session and was stonewalled
It was so political, and like a court room. 😮 The delegates that said no were not speaking for the rest of us.
Let the Shaking begin.
May God continue to bless Pastor Vine. Please pray for him and his family.
For the past 6 months I have been diverting my tithes to those who I know will use it for its intended purposes. Thank God for opening my eyes.
pastor Ted Wilson and his faithful followers need to repent and then go. Including the many SDA pastors who are not prepared to stand for truth.
I've been sending my tithe and offerings for several years to independent SDA pastors including Elder John Carter at the Carter Report who provide free Bibles in Russia, Ukraine, China and many other places to new Christians who never had a Bible. I feel good using funds to spread the Gospel this way!
I am for the TRUTH.. I have respect for Dr Vine
I would have respect for him if he quit supporting Yezidi women getting abortions.
The most dangerous type of deception is the one that combines mostly truth with a little error. But that little amount of error can do the most amount of damage to the church. This is why Conrad vine is dangerous because he speaks a lot of truth, and then goes off on his own tangents and defies what the spirit of prophecy has said. regarding tithes and the creation of factions or splits. Tell me where in the spirit of prophecy or in the Bible do you find the council to create churches within gods and church . The leadership of the church is still the leadership of the church, even if they are not perfect . God will weed out leadership in his time . Rebuke all you want there’s nothing wrong with its rightful name and holding leadership accountable but when you start to insinuate that a new organization needs to take place within the existing one, then you are strange from God’s way.
Also remember they gave the whole Loma Linda University Medical center exemption because over 3,000 said they would quit if they forced the shot on them, so the Medical center couldn't take that kind of hit all at once so they let them have religious exemptions! It has been kept pretty secret, but I have the inside info from my chiropractor whose wife works there.
Thanks for sharing that, I never heard that.
I think the members are starting to realize that there is power in numbers. If we stand together we can bring about change in the right direction!
@@ChristianLove7Money talks, doesn't it?!
Much obliged, Danette. ❤
I don’t know if your info is correct but if it is - this is diabolical.
EYE OPENER, NOT CONTROVERSY...TRUTH! He's taking a stand like Luther! You go beother Vine, its about time!
All I am going to say is this:
Conrad Vine’s presentation will bear fruits. Keep praying God is using people, He is purging the church.
Vine is right they should resign. What has happened to the SDA church? Money grabbers! Sold their souls.
I believe this is a counterfeit of God's true remnant. God have mercy on them.
@@thirdangelsmessage1669God.
Amen! If only more SDAs would awaken to the fact that a "new organization" has been formed usurping the true remnant.
They all corrupt in the GC.
No discernment by the Pharisees at the top
So disappointed with Pastor Stephen Bohr!😢😢😢
Pastor Bohr has been breaking the 7th day Sabbath every year at his campmeetings. He says it's OK because he gives Great Controversy books to the restaurant staff who serves him food.
. Did he break Sabbath cause of going to restaurants?
Sold Out for $$$. He will lose his soul.
@@lindaschipansky4429 Yes linda. They have their campmeetings at a hotel over a weekend, and on the holy Sabbath, they have restaurant staff serve them food. That is so hypocritical, and wrong.
I called Religious Liberty to seek help and the lady on the phone said that they couldn't help me and that she was also on the verge of losing her job there!! 😢😡💔
@@smlid wow, that is so crazy. God help us as the shaking intensifies.
Amen Pastor Vine for speaking truth,l pray the Lord will continue to bless you ,we are truly in the end days,scripture is been fulfilled,stay strong in the Lord Pastor ❤
WE NEED TO STAND AND STAND WITH BRO/DR. VINE!!!
We pray for Pastor Vine, God bless him....let the soldiers stand.
Secrets unsealed can as close!!!!
As Conrad Vine said, "go woke go broke." I believe Secrets Unsealed will be damaged real bad, if not go completely broke.
The secret has been unsealed, Pastor Bohr.
I learned this when I first came into this church, stand for something or fall for everything☝🏽!
Be harmless Lambs and wise as serpents. We are not called to hate, or divide. Pray for our church and for the spirit of God. This maybe the beginning of the final shaking.
Our whole life is about a paycheck. Are we willing to sacrifice it for our eternal life?
Abraham showed us what to do when he was WILLING TO SACRIFICE ISSAC.
This is a REAL TEST, not a TRIAL RUN.
Well said!
Dr Vine is the most knowledgeable, passionate, honest man in the Church. This is so upsetting and appalling .
They want people to join the Faith, but not question the Faith. Where is Freedom of Conscience?
Thank you for putting this together.
An old saying “Heads should roll” is often used to say justice should be done. If these tyrants and deceivers don’t repent and change their walk on this issue then they will receive a judgement beyond our imagination. Christ died for them as well as us. I pray they come to humility in their walk and repent with fullness of heart.
Regarding Pastor Wilson’s statement the problem which I do not think they address was the point of religious liberty, the church did not protect its members against the mandates of the government! Sad days, and more to follow! Keep your eyes lifted to Jesus our only hope!
And people wonder why I resigned from the GC of SDAs!!
It's always been about money. They aren't called "denominations" for no reason!
I left the corporate church too!
Spot on, never put that together before.
After being a JW , for 30 years, I discovered EGW-BOOKS... ❤ BUT COULD NOT JOIN ANOTHER 501C3... The profit foretold of the unfaithful bride...
@@skystoneLaw
And Vine said in his controversial sermon that the para-church could incorporate. He's only awake to so much. I do not trust any preachers anymore. It could all be a Hegelian within a Hegelian. Vine, Veith, & Gates all worship a false Trinity god.
@skystoneLaw It is a corporation. The name is copyright, or you will be sued if you use it.
The church has stepped off the foundation and Fundamental Principles of 1872. It is a new organization as of 1980, Masquerading as the Remnant. The real Remnant will be underground churches. They have separated from the apostasy. The scriptures are our only safeguard.
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Jesus overturned the tables of the money changers in the temple. And He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’ ” Matthew 21:13)
We need more men like Dr. Vine.
I propose we call, email and fax MI churches/GC with message "GO WOKE WILL GO BROKE". Praise God for Dr. Vine's conviction and spirit of commitment.
It takes courage under the influence of the Holy Spirit to do what Pastor Vine has done
It was not him but the Spirit of God using him as a his mouth piece.
God is calling for men who CANNOT be bought or sold men who are true to Him as the needle to the pole.
God bless Pastor Vine God's man for the times. Let us pray for him and his family and all other leaders who recognise that they are servants hence they are willing to stand for truth no matter the outcome
May God keep us faithful.
Is there an address where we can send funds and offering to support Pastor Dr. Conrad vine???
In Mathew 24, Jesus warned us of false prophets at the end, whoever raises against the church is doing Satan's work. Be careful brothers and sisters , God is watching and cannot be fooled. It is not our calling to judge our leadership but to preach the Gospel.
Very good commentary and analysis! However two corrections…Johnathan Zirkle is not a pastor but an attorney. Secondly, Doug Batchelor does not work for the GC or any conference. He is the speaker for Amazing Facts. He never mandated vaccines for people to keep their jobs! I’m praying for Dr. Vine. Stephen Bohr should not have cancelled him!!🙏🙏🙏
I will no longer support secrets unsealed or any aspect of the SDA church that's aligned with their position.
The leadership was wrong. They can be stiff-necked and refuse to admit or see this, if that is the choice they make then they are not leading according to the example of Jesus or the advice of Paul.
I was shocked when the church shut its doors during COVID. My parents were also and they never stopped their food and shelter ministries although both are in their 80s. I have never treated fellow humans like they had a disease and I refuse to start. What an opportunity to have a place of love and grace during a time when so many were deceived and scared. Other churches in other places chose to stay open. Pastors were arrested joyfully.
I did not take the vaccine and I absolutely believe the church is to be a bastion of protection for conscience of its people. Not a promoter of government to keep its tax status. That is the joining of church and state that brought so much persecution by the Catholic Church and will again. Pastor Vine is following the advice of Paul “let every man be convicted in his own mind”. We stand in judgment alone. I am shocked that this leader tried to shut down these people. That is tyranny that does not belong in the church so remove him.
We heard Ted Wilson ( as Judas ) speak like a Dragon and used his Kingly Authority to impose the Organization bylaws and not the Bible based.
We should never have a "church" manual or creed. Sister White spoke against this. The 1872 Fundamental Principles were the foundation to stand on, all Bible based. 😊
That case about the young Australian teacher is tragic and unfortunately too late now but as Dr Vine mentioned he had previously had a bad reaction to vaccines which here in the states is a reason for exemption. He should’ve been given a medical exemption.
This is such a shame, all truths will be revealed in every area, even in the churches . Judgement starts in the church .Thank you for this video and also for defending Dr Vine
One last thing, I am not SDA. I, like you are the Israel of God.
That was the name given by God to his people. Not a nation, not a race but a people ordained by Jesus Christ to carry his message of salvation to all the world.
He is utilizing other people across this world you are not alone!
I love you all. Shalom
I like what you said. I don't claim to be an Sda, I won't even call myself a Christian for if I did I would be taking the name of the Lord in vain. One thing I do tell others is that I follow Christ and bible and I want to be a Christian in my heart. Happy Sabbath brother.
@user-ox5ks7bu8g In the Holy Bible we are called saints every last one of us that has repented and accepted the BLOOD COVENANT OF JESUS THAT HE SHELD ALL THE TO THE CROSS . So we don't pray to saints , because we are saints , and we PRAY only to JEHOVAH AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON JESUS MESSIAH . SHALOM .
@user-ox5ks7bu8gI am also a One True God believer, reject thr Trinity. I am an Seventh Day Adventist that follows the teachings of our pioneers, the Fundamental Priniciples of 1872. No trinity there.
I hear people speak a lot about the SDA organisation as being a remnant church and I wonder what is wrong with our theology. How is it that SDA Church claims to be both Laodecia and Remnant at the same time? Is that possible for two opposite characters to exist in one character at the same time?
The SDA organised church was never the remnant church. It was organised well into the Laodicean period. There is no organised church which keeps God's commandments nor has ever done so. Do you even think about the sheer audacity of identifying ourselves as a group of people who keep all of God's commandments simply because we speak about them in church (and mostly the Sabbath) and write about them in our literature? That despite the obvious faults, sins and even evil that takes place among us so much? Can you imagine how pharisaical that audacity is?
I am shocked when some think that they can reform the organisation. It is not the organisation that is to be reformed, it never needs reform neither can it be reformed.
Believers are reformed individually not corporately!
Satan has ever worked overtime to separate God's people from Christ in every religion that claims Him as their Savior. We are no different. I truly believe that when we started we were headed in the right direction and we are preaching/teaching things, biblical truth, that many other are not and for that I believe we are a remnant of the true church/teachings of Christ 2,000 years ago. That does not mean we are all saints...there will ALWAYS be wolves in sheep's clothing just as there were in Paul's day. Jesus said let the "wheat grow with the tares" and HE will sort it out in the end. Those of us who keep our eyes on Jesus will not be deterred by those leaving and/or denigrating the Adventist faith...I do not believe you have to be a baptized Adventist to be saved but those that endure to the end and "keep the Commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" Rev 12:17, 14:12, 22:14
Keep praying for all involved and keep your eyes on Jesus!
@@smlid The Bible does not identify the remnant by what it teaches, but by what it does - keep commandments of God. No organised church can do that. It is Laodicea which is identified by claiming what it is not, i.e. being holy when it is not. So the more Adventists claim to be remnant, the more evidence they provide that they are actually Laodicea instead.
The moment you say this "That does not mean we are all saints...there will ALWAYS be wolves in sheep's clothing just as there were in Paul's day" it means the identity of remnant cannot be placed on the whole group. Therefore, the remnant can never be the whole church.
"The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her midst. If Christ were formed within, the hope of glory, conformity to His image would be seen, and the church trials which separate the members from Christ would disappear."
13LtMs, Ms 156, 1898, par. 10
Individually, each of us must divorce Laodicea and return to the church of Philadelphia. Many will die in the Lord as members of Philadelphia and only 144,000 will be translated in that state of brotherly love.
Jesus help us all!
The church of Christ cannot stay in Laodicea, or they will be spewed out. Laodicea means an adjudged people.
The church structure we need to be in is Philadelphia. Compare the 2 in Rev. 3.
We have to overcome in order to sit down and sup with Him in the Kingdom. To remain in Laodicea is to be lukewarm.
Be in that church of brotherly love and be a pillar in His temple, bearing the name of God in your foreheads, the new Jerusalem, and Jesus' new name. ❤
@DebraCollins-fq4jo
Amen, sister. May God protect and keep you as the shaking escalates 🙏
Thank you the servant of God for the exposure. God is using you in a special way. God's people will go down fighting without fear and triumph with the help of our Lord Jesus Christ.
When you are a seeing person, it's baffling that a blind person can't (or will not) see. For example, I see that, contrary to the language of the official statement posited by the General Conference, the church supported the administration of the vaccine. My pastor actively inquired as to who wanted to take the vaccine, made a master list, shared it with the local department of Health and made arrangements for the DOH to come to church grounds to administer the vaccine. In other words, the church supported members' conscientious assent to taking the vaccine. On the other hand, when I needed the church's support in supporting my conscientious objection with a exemption letter, the leadership refused to stand with me. And somehow, they cant see that the church's position is biased. Freedom of conscience must be supported in accordance with Scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy. Today when we now know that the stuff they call vaccines are not really vaccines in the traditional sense, that they were mRNA vehicles for effecting crazy responses in the body, the still church refuses to change, to ask forgiveness. The GC is digging in. History is repeating itself --the very Reformation history the SDDA church have been expounding for the last 200 years. Tell me, how are our leaders acting any differently than Dr. John Eck, Aleandro and their peers in this crucial point in this great controversy?
Thank you for sharing this. People do not understand. The GC wanted to enforce the Biden Mandates for Advent Health and several conferences. They were not standing up for their people. It would have left not a faithful soul in the entire denomination.
Research GC & the UNholy Roman system connections. They're not leading the congregations in GOD'S Word, yet the UNholy Roman system's False teachings.
Back then Medicine is different than now in medicine!
First time I have heard this sermon from Dr Vine.
I stand with Dr Vine
We'd best get ready for whats ahead of us !!!.2019 is gone .
Were headed for rocky & fire situation.
I have been depressed for over a week now. I have known for a very long time that the GC is not doing the will of God for a very long time. Mrs. White told us that way back in the times from 1901 to 1905. She told us that way back then that the then GC needed to be disband and a new group needs to be formed. That was over a hundred years ago so we are very slow to learn. She also stopped giving her tithe money to the GC and gave it directly to where God was being honored and followed. Money rules the GC and our denominational work. I know that the GC loves to quote from TM&GW page 15 to claim that Mrs White says the GC will go through to the end but you need to turn the page to 16 where she makes it clear the PEOPLE or God's are chosen people and they are the "CHURCH". Gods people where ever they are or His chosen people that constitute His Church. It is not the GC that constitute His church which is very obvious by what is being done by and through the GC. Get out the Bible and SP books and read. We need the truth alive and living in us now more than ever,
Wow, what an eye opener, thank you , wisdom and discernment is what we all need.
We're the money is, is where the corruption is.
And to think the GC took C 19 $ when the y have billions of dollars stored. The SDA corporation is in the Fortune 500 club. It's not a church but a business.
it feels like the conference should've taken their own advice and not been the first to cancel Dr. Vine
2 Tim 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth
BTW in april 2020 when c. started, God gave me a 3 night/part vision. and even when they were also saying "if we quarantine for 14 days all will be well (their usual lies) God told me right then and there not to take the va xx... when I didn't even know there would come one... and he kept repeating it to me for over a year... so I knew... but why did I know??? BECAUSE I TRY TO KEEP CLOSE TO GOD EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE and He is close to me.. I seek only TRUTH and not what flatters me, I seek the Kingdom of God no matter what and not to follow the lies of Laodicea. And in my vision (3 night/parts) He showed me this is the end. And the return of Christ. Took about a year before churches started talking about it.
I see Pastor Stephen Bohr and many other conference leaders have a work to do. There need to come out clean and repent for misleading God's people during the pandemic
What upset Stephen Bohr was the fact that Pastor Vine said that people should stop paying tithes to the conference who don’t do the right job for God so in other words money is more important to the GC than the word to go further they are ruled by the Devil this is so very sad 😢😢😢
NOW (A)I'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHO IS GETTING MY TITHES & OFFERINGS, BECAUSE (A)I DON'T WANT THE GC TO GET ONE PENNY, YES IT IS IN MY HANDS !!!
Amen, Go woke, Go broke.
Amen
@@thirdangelsmessage1669
The GC went "woke" in 1980.
@Want2cJesus yep, a new organization was born. A new religion established, books of a new order written, and this new movement can't be stopped. 😮
@@DebraCollins-fq4jo
And, that counterfeit structure will be swept away!
Hopefully many will wake up
Watching from Bangalore,India.
Honestly, we should all replace our tithes in the hands of the true workers of God. The hands of the true ministers. The GC has no respect for us or for God's work. Jesus will soon return, and the work has to be done. We need to replace the resources in the right place and the right hands. Let's pray for spiritual discernment. 🙏
If we can't stand up now when are we going to stand up for the truth they stop my husband from preaching because he stand up for the truth.
Cestius came, Titus is coming
Lord, help us to be in the right place, depending on you for whatever our needs may be.
I believe that some conferences will fall, and I believe there are faithful churches out there in her woke churches out there. God will take care of it, and I will attend a faithful church.
And it will be .upon the return of Christ
The falsehood will be destroyed.
This reminds me of the Loma Linda Train Station Vision, ref: e.g. White, told and recorded by brother Elmer M. Johnson.
"The Storm Is Coming"
"The Straight Testimony Will Cause The Shaking"
** Isn't there a shaking going on, being intensified at present in the SDA Churches, as many seem to think and agree with? Seems so to me too.
"The Straight Testimony is causing a shaking within the SDA Church."
We must needs pray for our SDA Church Leaders and all else, including ourselves. Who shall abide the shaking? Who will be among the Sealed of God? Who will say, "Here am I, Lord, Send me?"
"Lord, send/ use my means, however small or insignificant my means may be!?!"
The world is watching us and waiting for us to get our action together, - in the Lord. They will know that we are Christians by the love we have for each other; - all skirmishes and differences put away.
Are we going to continually disappoint the peoples/ the other sheep "which are not yet of His fold?"
Could the Church Triumph be just around the corner? - being in the birth pains period??
Just Wow, but with a sober excitement, and a praise the Lord, Amen.
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Like father [Neal Wilson] like son [Ted Wilson]. The father steamrolled true for the acceptance of the trinity doctrine at the 1980 GC Session, - the son pushed through the vote for vaccination. How sad.
Each member need to grow personal relationship with Jesus. Not looking to men but to God / Jesus.
GC will never have another dime oh my money. If they don’t think the SDA health message does not count then they don’t count either
They certainly missed the boat. This was a test, and the leaders have failed.
Some have been dissatisfied and have said: “I will not longer pay my tithe; for I have no confidence in the way things are managed at the heart of the work.” But will you rob God because you think the management of the work is not right? Make your complaint, plainly and openly, in the right spirit, to the proper ones. Send in your petitions for things to be adjusted and set in order; but do not withdraw from the work of God, and prove unfaithful, because others are not doing right.
Read carefully the third chapter of Malachi and see what God says about the tithe. If our churches will take their stand upon the Lord's word and be faithful in paying their tithe into His treasury, more laborers will be encouraged to take up ministerial work. More men would give themselves to the ministry were they not told of the depleted treasury. There should be an abundant supply in the Lord's treasury, and there would be if selfish hearts and hands had not withheld the tithes or made use of them to support other lines of work. . 9T 249.2-9T 249.3
Remember give to Ceazer what belongs to Ceazer and to God belongs to God
May God bless you x. The GC will meet JC one day.
The speaker in this video is mistaken. Conrad Vine never said that people should not take the vaccine. His stance was that the church should support each individual's choice based on their impression of the Holy Spirit.
Pastor Bohr’s last comment was as, “he (God) will and he will take measures to correct it in his own time and when. Maybe this is that time and he doesn’t realize it.
Just like the Pharisees couldn't determine the time for their Messiah.
The church is not an organization. It's easy to talk. It's another to do the walk. The only way is with christ in you. I pray they come into repentence, amen.
Notice Ted Wilson was ready to speak and shut it down, they must have been ready and planned for the agenda item to be requested.
He seemed prepared for it.
What Pastor Wilson said was correct, Church never force any member to take vaccine, I in Indonesia never hear that. I took the vaccine because i need a job since i have to take flight any time and visit the other country as a seaman
Jeremiah 17:5-8 KJV
[5] Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. [6] For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. [7] Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. [8] For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
They believe in 'Science falsely so-called and for the love of money'. 1 TIMOTHY 6:20,10
God can and will correct things, but God also work through men And women Elijah, Moses,
Esther ,ruth.
The name remnant church means there will be a shaking and what will remain will be the remnant on one side and the beast on the other.
We are very close
Disgusting GC handling of the issues that are very Important to the delegates and many many people… FOR SHAME Ted Wilson
Agreed … this is now a MARKET PLACE AND LET THE TABLES BE VIOLENTLY TURNED OVER AS DID Jesus when he walked here on earth
God bless Dr Vine
Godspeed SDA family
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Walter Veith was against it from the start. He is a scientists and explained purely based on science and biology why this is dangerous.
And he also explained who invented vaxx in general years ago. in the 1st place. Want to take a guess??????
It is one of the WUP ep.
Great video!! Thank you!
Conrad Vine is the man of the time.
I am confident God has not shown disapproval for what he has preached.
His message makes sense concerning the End-time Commandment Keeping People.
DR. VINE , WE ARE BEHIND YOU! KEEP FIGHTING FOR THE TRUTH !
I KNOW ONE CHURCH ACCEPTING WOKE, SO I STOPPED GOING AND GIVING TITHES! INSTEAD I JUST DONATE TO CUHRCH PLANTING IN SOME OTHER PLACES!
You mentioned in those names Ted Wilson and Steven bhor. You also said Doug Batchelor who I heard from his own lips in a vespers video with Karen that he did not take the vaccine and he also said he didn't even take flu shots. So you would have to show me how you include Doug Batchelor among those others who I do agree with you. But I don't believe that Doug condoned the vaccination, or push for it, he believed it was up to the individual, that doesn't mean he pushed for it
@sharonunger1479 I agree. Pastor Doug is my pastor and I've heard him speak out against abortion and it's my understanding he and Karen chose not to receive the vaccine. He has been "cancelled" like Conrad Vine in the past and received a lot of criticism because he stands for Present Truth which the corporate SDA GC seems to want our pastors to dilute and tone down.
Yes, Please apologize to Pastor Doug. He does not work for the conference and he has never pushed or mandated the vaccine! We are members of his church. He never closed the Granite Bay Church for one day during Covid even when all the conference churches were closed and never required masks. He believes in the liberty of conscience!!
someone bought up the subject of pork in the vax he said the vax is so refined it doent matter apparantly that video was taken down
He said during the QA that it is safe to take and effective
@prescillafitzpatrick5424 Why would he contradict himself by Refusing to take it and tell others it safe. As Judge Judy says (love that woman) if it doesn't make sense it's not true
Who is this man who is refusing to listen to any other second motions
My niece died in the UK after taking that gab and she said as soon as she took it she was no longer the same.
So sad to hear.
FYI - Doug Batchlor did not promote the jab...also, Jonathan Zirkle is an attorney and advocates truth and God granted freedoms of our land and its people. (Was not pastoring)
I have a video of Doug Batchelor promoting the vaccine, and I shared it previously.
@@thirdangelsmessage1669 interesting...i go to his church & never heard it... he also had conrad vine come and speak... must have been another venue. What video can I find it now I'm curious? BTW Thanks for the great dialog! We're in need of repentance and healing from the fear driven decisions made during that time of testing. Blessings on your ministry!
Mind blowing how it all comes down to a paycheck! Sadly, many within the ministry are not in it for the ministerial role but a paycheck. Many will not speak out because they know they too will be marginalized, blacklisted, shut down, threatened...for those who don't think this is possible, you are now witnessing the true colors of many. I am a third generation SDA and it's appalling to see a movement become an institution governed by political driven agendas. EGW said it best, " “The greatest want of the world is the want of men-men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature-the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man... God will serve His justice.
Excellent comment. Thank you.
What did the SOP say to us about unions, etc and SDA?
Why do the SDA Church not take heed to Bible doctrines, and godly principles, but insist on trying to silence the consciences of God - fearing Pastors, lay- preachers, etc, etc.
I do firmly agree with Pastor Conrad Vine's call for the certain church leaders , etc, to Step Down.
**Repent ; Make Restitution for the wrongs that you have done. That's the Bible word.
How were apostate kings and priests, etc., in Bible days dealt with by the Lord Himself, Pastor Stephen Bohr? Other?
As for Pastor Conrad Vine's sermon, (sermons,) I fully do agree 1000%. **For God's sake and the gospel's , I stand in solidarity with Pastor Conrad Vine. * Other SDA pastors, church leaders, .., are you true to the Lord, and would you stand with this servant of God ?
**The Church Militant will be transformed into the Church Triumphant; I believe that there is a Shaking in the SDA Church at present.
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God help us to stand for the truth as vine is doing,,,, God bless him
i saw this when it happened and was very upset at GC
Found this recently. Saw the flag flying in a video and felt sick!
The Vatican flag was flown at the Seventh-day Adventist's (SDA) 61st General Conference (GC) Session in St Louis, Missouri (MO) on June 11, 2022. While some church folk are okay with it and have offered stout defence, other members of the church are raising a red flag against the Vatican flag.Jun 26, 2022"
Why would any SDA be ok with that?
Heavenly Father we also pray for those who mistakenly insist that some aborted babies go to hell!
That sounds like a terrible teaching. Who teaches that?
@@thirdangelsmessage1669papacy teaches must be baptized, even babies
@@thirdangelsmessage1669I am SDA and I never knew that there any issues with taking vaccines or not . I don’t understand why I would need an exemption or not as I have had and given different vaccines in my capacity.SDA’s have taken MMR ,Polio,Hep B , Yellow fever, TB , etc so I did not think that they ever asked for exemption because they just took them.
Then we go to the hospitals when we are not well and take medication.
So where in the church doctrines or Bible does it say we should or not take vaccines?
Please show me ..
@@elviraroberts876 Go to the 29:27 mark and you will see the ingredients in these are contrary to the health message. Pork is one of the ingredients, dogs, monkeys, etc. All unclean to put into our bodies. But you are injecting this directly into your blood stream. Along with aluminum, formaldehyde, acetone, and many other things.
As I shared in this presentation the Greek word Pharmakeia is used in Rev 18:23 and we are told all nations are deceived by it. It translates sorcery, witchcraft, but also poison in the strongs.
This is what has happened to many. The story pastor Vine shared was one of thousands, and all of us know personally someone who has been affected by taking these things.
There are even some in the comments here who have lost family members from the poison. It is a tragedy, and since it is in scripture, it is absolutely irresponsible of these pastors to be in positions they are and not understand this stuff from scriptures.
all this it to repeat again this fall. They've bought our GC and yes its a business now.
Stephen Borh, English might be my second language but I did read her books….your interpretation and presentation is verywrong
Well Mr Wilson, it is our choice too, weather to return tithes to the conference, and many thousands of us are deciding to do that now. Since you don't want to address the issue of concern. God bless!
God's enemies are of His own household. Started in heaven first. This is where the devil is god which means he hardly leaves anyone behind alive that is not corrupted. (he could have killed Job). Their life would only be saved due to being sealed and chosen to remain alive to see Christ return. To be spared Gods wrath. Time is up.
It was a personal choice. All have free will .we will all stand and give an account of our life to God.
The GC should NEVER have taken the stand they did, BUT it was left for the individual to make the final decision and will have to give an account to God.
Boor shud repent
Why did Loma Linda fly the rainbow flag??
Neil, Ted Wilsons dad had to resign from GC prez. Wonder why ? Money was lost on stockmarket
Like father like son🤨!
I do not envision Jesus investing in the stock market...Den of money changers and thieves.
Yes, I say thieves.
Thieves take Yah's funds and spend on eccumenical and climate change worldly issues.
He is fed by the conference. If Borh go against the GC he will not have GC support.
I hated that logo replacing the 3 angels message.
I wouldnt spit on the side walk if the pope told me to!
Great video and thank you very much! I found your channel through Mount Carmel Ministries