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Former MSNBC Chris Matthews WILD DEBATE With Krystal And Saagar | Breaking Points
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Krystal and Saagar welcome former MSNBC host Chris Matthews to the studio for a long form debate on a range of topics from Biden's job performance, 2024 horse race, Populism, Kamala's failures, his real uncensored thoughts on Bernie Sanders and more!
Timestamps:
(00:00)What Grade Do You Give Biden?
(04:33)Is Kamala Harris the heir apparent?
(07:45)How People Feel About Biden Economy
(11:42)Trust In Cable News
(16:38)2020 Bernie Media Bias
(20:56)Media Influence On Primary
(29:15)Was Neoliberal Era a Failure?
(37:50)Chris Asks Krystal "Where Would Your POV Work?"
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This guy doesn't have the situational awareness to realize he is exactly why we don't trust the media.
You trust every charlatan and con man who steps up, but don't trust the media, and then whine when things go bad.
Matthews was very good for a stretch of his media career and was a pretty fair interlocutor of all sides to a debate. Something happened at MSNBC in the late Bush years that infected him too. He was just as bad about Trump as the rest of the Press. At least he admits that the Russia collusion hysteria was false - most of the Press still won't do that.
I trust Chris Mathews. He’s closer to reality than Krystal “don’t judge me because of my nudes” ball
@tonyo3620 I'm not a krystal supporter, but wtf are you on about? 😂 her fairly normal party photos that were released years ago?
vg80628: I was going to post a comment but your comment was better. You succinctly hit the bullseye.
Chris: "Did you read my book?"
Saagar: "No."
LMFAO
😂😂😂😂😂
"I read the title"
His look was great
👁👄👁 "No, I read the title"
That's embarrassing... These 2 are getting worse by the day...
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Actually. Reading this guys book might give you brain cancer. So better that Saggar Doesn’t read it
I do not regret watching this interview. It was awkward as hell, and I love it.
Chris: *Interrupts every other sentence*
Also Chris: "Can I speak?"
You don’t know Matthews
He really tried to say with a straight face that MSNBC wasn't biased against Bernie...
Hahahaaa!! Right, that made me laugh out loud!
He was one of his loudest opponents on the left
The guy literally had to quit after inferring that along with Bernie, the socialists were coming to shoot people on the streets. That was the comment that took him out.
NDA
Krystal just wants to ring his neck over Bernie- and so do the rest of us… 😂
I think my personal favorite moment was when Krystal bluntly asked him about the positive accomplishments of the Democratic Party, and Matthews began by talking about Vietnam 😂
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He was having an acid flashback. It happens
The fact that she asked speaks to her extreme willful ignorance.
"Back in my day"
@@peterstafford4426Her ignorance?
Chris Matthews coming in with that UNHINGED boomer energy lol
Sagaar's face throughout this whole interview is amazing 😂
He is micro-trolling with the faces. 😂
he looked like he wanted popcorn and kick his feet up and just watch what was happening
It was kinda stupid ngl.
"You chose Hilary and how did that turn out???"
Krystal literally stopped him in his tracks with that 😂😂👌
That was the highlight of the entire interview. He had absolutely NOTHING to say in response.
Krystal should've said, "I live in the REAL WORLD...." ;--)
@@ynaught648 how annoying was his "real world" comments.. 😂😂😂🤦 anyone that says I live in the real world un ironically does not, in fact, live in the real world 😂🤦
@@ynaught648 too bad Bernie despises the real world and Hilary wanted to own it.
She chose Kyle Kulinski, another stepson to take care of?
What?
When he opened with "I'm a political expert" I kinda knew how this interview was gonna go lol.
Is he not a political expert?
Expert = someone who knows so much about so little.
Cut Krystal off on THE FIRST QUESTION just to say he’s an expert 🤦♂️
That's how I opened my first date with my wife. I told her "I'm a physical specimen with a big brain and you are lucky to be here"
@@charlietuna1971 He's a bs artist. Did you forget he worked for MSNBC? He's a purveyor of horse manure.
Chris Matthews has a well rounded experience in DC politics. If he makes mistakes, it's probably because he's too close to it and has too many friends on the left, and he plays favorites rather than being purely objective.
Saagar, who had a Huge Smile on his face, was totally enjoying Krystal and Matthews go at it !! 😁
Give credit for Chris Mathews for even showing up. Hopefully this doesn’t scare anyone else from network from showing up.
Is he still on Tv? Thought he retired.
@@K1forMVPhe’s still a guest with MSNBC. Especially on Morning Joe
She NEVER shuts up!
“ i’m a political expert. That’s what I’m good at.” “ it’s going to come down to the swing states.” What incredible insight.
Right??????😂
I’m a political expert…its always going to be like this.
He made one good point. But I can’t remember what it was now. I’m not even being funny. I can’t remember.
@@brandonchambers399That right there was infuriating.
😂😂😂😂
Asking Chris about neoliberalism is like asking a fish about water.
Best comment.
100%, also now pathetic must it have felt being Krystal and just thinking the entire time "YOU'RE literally the reason America needs change!!"
He's right for his lifetime, which is near the end. thats the thing. what's been correct and palatable is changing.
@@AlexKaehler-qc8kd Nah, he was always wrong it is just gotten harder to fool people with this bullshit.
Clearly, not, as the American voter in aggregate has never, not once, made a living wage or universal healthcare, a dealbreaker in an election. Chris has been completely correct until 2016. Arguably the trend started to turn by the end of the 2000s, before that he was 100% correct for about 45 years, well 40 anyway.
“Can I speak?” - Chris Matthews after interrupting both hosts non-stop for 40 minutes.
Krystal and Sagaar, you are class acts. Well done.
That was funny as shit. Haha. I had to laugh there as well. 😅
Well done interview. Chris Mathews is everything that’s wrong with the media.
Thanks for WATCHING Chris & wasting TIME on this MEDIA 😅
This was a debate, not an interview, lol.
While true and I can't stand Matthews either, I find his challenges to Krystal to provide specifics highlighted how much her arguments rely on moralism and emotion rather than being able to get specific. I like BP as a barometer for populist messaging, but it's kind of frustrating hearing them always say they want to talk policy yet can only ever talk about the broadest of broad strokes when it comes to policy.
The fact that Krystal says she doesn't believe that injecting many billions of new money into the economy doesn't necessarily cause inflation is wild.
Yeah, honestly she was turning me off to BP, by naively talking about printing money as a solution. Like, if printing money just solved the issues, we would have printed quadrillions in the past to escape any financial hardships people might have. But of course money doesn’t grow on trees.
@@Volmire1 most objective economists would disagree with Matthews actually - it's way too oversimplistic to attribute this recent inflation to simply covid spending when there's other equally or more salient factors. Too little supply and/or too much demand causes inflation - and we had a double whammy of supply chain snarls combined with a re-opening economy, plus corporate price gouging on top of that which was arguably the biggest factor - oil prices were not even high anymore (even check the financial markets during the height of inflation) when big oil was making record profits. These are all facts Matthews obstinately seems to ignore.
40mins? Thanks for not holding this behind a paywall for forever, appreciate this.
someone would pay for this ?
@@lucymat3746I would pay big money for his attempts at stares and their eye rolls
my favorite part was when Krystal ignores the reality of what inflation is..
@@kyle-ri5mzmine was Chris ignoring proven price gouging
@@valeriexoxo what text book says that price gouging isn't part of the cause of inflation? More money in the hands of the consumer means that if the seller increases prices (price gouges) the consumer can still afford to pay. This is why more money increases prices. It is classic supply demand economics! What would the alternative explanation be for more money increasing inflation?
“I live in the real world” “Hillary Clinton is likeable” LOL
STILL LAUGHIN AT THAT ONE!
Have you ever met Hillary? She might be likeable? Dont prejudge people
@@tonyo3620 I met her. She's unlikeable. Accept my anecdote immediately without verification.
Are you people dumb? She wants to tax the rich corporations the Elon musks the Jeff bezos of the world , you guys have no understanding of social democratic politics
@@tonyo3620idk about her but Bill slept with my wife. He’s such a nice guy.
This was definitely not an interview. Challenge the guest, ask follow up questions but too often the questions seemed like a personal attack. At some point i started thinking that Krystal and Chris need to work out their issues/debate offline.
Chris Matthews is really showing his age… he’s an excellent example as to why this country is being run by old people with old ideas 😂
Old completely detached and out of touch fools who are so egotistical they will never be able to see reality and their ignorance. These clowns must be removed ASAP, they've destroyed the planet and climate and act like they are never ever accountable.
Do you realize how clueless you sound? Krystal's socialist ideas are far older than Matthews 🤣
It serves no purpose to be ageist.The comparative upstarts on the scene have hardly shown fresh promise. Buttigieg's views are covered with cobwebs, AOC's just a pasty for Pelosi, the whole squad's fallen flat, and Chelsea Clinton regurgitates every worn out word her witch of a mother utters. You want real progressive change? Look to the forward thinking philosophy of Dr. Cornel West.
You really think Krystals idea of unfunded socialist programs is the future? The rich aren't going to get taxed and the only other option is printing money.
I don't know how old you are, but Matthews was one of the few that fought back against the GWB/ Cheney era.
This is a fascinating illustration of old media and new media, neoliberal ideology and economic populism. A truly fascinating watch, no matter where you stand politically. Kudos to Breaking Points for conducting this interview.
I concur, and very well said sir. 👌
It's interesting because Chris actually gives credit in some regards to people I never expected. He said "I never said Hitler". Dawg, you said Nazi Germany invading and the Fall of France and a reference to a Churchill communication "It's over, it's over" after Bernie won Nevada iirc. I mean the genius retired on-air due to his comments the next day and he denies them here? lol
agree. Best show segment yet.
Harumph!
I’m really glad that this guy came on so we could all see his massive blind spots in the way he looks at the world.
2:50 "Why didn't he do it?" Why? Well, Chris Mathews, instead he passed a tax cut and inside that bill was tax incentives for Opportunity Zones. One of the main reasons the economy was overheated and unemployment numbers were low. Also one of the main reasons for the commercial real-estate bubble. Dumb ASS!
By the way if Trump would have passed an infrastructure bill we would all be driving on toll roads. The Republican plan was to privatize infrastructure and allow the rich to invest some of their tax cuts.
Not tooting my own horn but his blindspots were obvious way back when he was on MSNBC. He's not interested in actually solving problems.
Chris Matthews has more life experience and has seen more elections than both of them combined. To dismiss his lived experience and call it 'blindspots' is ignorant.
While more experience is generally better than less, too much experience in a single lane leads to stagnant innovation of ideas and perspectives.
The same with Fox news. I would love to see them here too. They are the right wing version of msnbc and come in with all its flaws
It was refreshing to see Krystal being interrupted rather than her doing the interruptions. Saagar, on the other hand, just sat there and waited politely lol
I think Saagar is a Fan Boy Of Chris...
I was annoyed with Krystal in when rfk Jr. Was on breaking points.
that usually is from the chris matthews era of women shouldn't have opinions. Might be why she interrupts
Damn you people just see what you want to see. This dude was terrible. Krystal just tries to keep these liars honest and of course she has her views as well. But you people are wild to think she's the issue.
@issaciams where not saying whether or not she's right on the points, it's the behavior during the interview. Let saagar ask all the same questions and take her off the interviews or have the other blonde girl from breaking points come on. Krystal is acting like she's on CNN or fox during these interviews and is acting like she isn't on a long format podcast with sufficient time for questions and answers.
Chris should run for office. He’s just as old as what we have now, he deflects with the best of them, he refuses to listen and answer direct questions, he hates to be held accountable for his past actions. Sounds like a winner to me
He knows he can't, his rug is bumpy with all sorts of debris swept under for decades.
He worked for Carter as a speechwriter
@@Viconiusis that not a basic requirement for being a good politician?
This was brutal to watch. Chris Matthews is stuck in a bygone era
I just started and when he says "kamala should talk about having a tough mom and jamaican father, that sounds great tell us about that". Thats 90s white liberal bullshit.
Nah he’s in reality, unfortunately
Nah, it was brutal to watch. Had to stop watching about 10 minutes in no fault to Krystal or Saagar. Was hoping Chris would be insightful and interesting but he was way to combative for no reason.
@@relentlesseducatorhe's Boot reflecting reality. He is manufacturing a picture of reality that elites want to be dominant.
@@SunnynPhillybecause he is not used to being challenged from the left, or by people who don't believe in the oligarchy.
The only opposition he knows his to deal with us from the old republican right.
Chris Matthew’s shows exactly what people have been fed up with.
Being made to feel stupid in the face of actual professional people. Maybe make yourself better the.
100% agree with you there
100%
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Tax the rich gets said and CM lost his ability to speak😅
Krystal interviewing herself here. It’s a lot.
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This is the physical embodiment of 'man yells at cloud.'
Well done by Krystal and Saagar for maintaining their cool while Grandpa Simpson kept talking over them.
This interview and Matthew's answers, are illustrative of the reason why so many of us under the age of 50 don't like to watch mainstream news. Great job Krystal and Saagar.
hes completely corrupted.
Condescending neoliberal muppet.
Yes.
I’m 52…and here with Breaking Points.
I’m 53 and subscribe to K&S….everyone’s sick of the mainstream.
Chris Matthew’s was more Chris Matthews than Chris Matthews has ever been.
Thats what happens when you get older lol.
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he's so stuck in his bubble where corporations are entitled to endless subsidies to shore up their extravagant lifestyles while the 99% are literally entitled to NOTHING. nice.
Chris has always had an acute case of hoagie mouth.
Krystal just keep spending twice what the US takes in by taxes and everything will be fine. Then when we are in the same situation in 4 years double that no problem. She lives in Fucking dream land.
So Matthews thinks the world hasn’t changed since 1972, this could be the problem.
Historians will one day be using this interview as an example of why legacy media died on the branch.
You can tell this man hasn’t been asked an uncomfortable question or been held accountable in decades.
You must not have been paying attention -- Chris Matthews encouraged questions about himself. Look at 16:00 where Saagar asks about MSNBC, Matthews said: "You're asking about MSNBC, ask me about me...". Really killed your talking point there
No, you can tell he doesn't like being asked stupid questions.
@@ashh.1765Pretty subjective statement no?
@@modernisto subjective or not ,actually aash1765 is absolutely correct .
WHO, TRUMP?
The smugness of "if you don't agree with me, you don't live in reality" smh
Her smugness is the exact same. Which is why she refuses to allow him to speak
@@stevenp25100 She pushed him cause he kept referring to "reality" and "real world" which is a smug polite way of saying to the other person "you're a fucking idiot and don't know what the fuck you're talking about" .
@@stevenp25100 Delusional... the guy filibustered his way through avoiding answering questions and scolding them for not living "in a real world" with a cunty self-approving tone
I think his point was in the reality of "how" not if it should or should not but how. How are we going to have our wealthy elected vote to increase their personal taxes. I don't like his politics but he's not wrong. Americans look out for #1 and will do whatever it takes to ensure their life.
@@ajorgy315 Massachusetts is now taxing millionaires at a rate to provide free lunch for all public school students. So you can research the number of millionaires in each state and how a tax on them to feed school children would be feasible and not make them poor.
I know how it feels to argue with your grandpa. Keeping him focus on the issue is more than half the battle.
Listen grandpa........ Alright grandpa, heard.
Or….he’s trying to put you on game and you’re hyper focused on being understood and not on understanding
I'm sorry while I am not a fan of Chris Matthew's but Krystal only wants her opinion to matter. I feel Saagar was dismissed by both.
This is one generation in a debate with another . Fascinating to watch .
I was just going to post something like this. It's clear that it's not only a clash of generations but a clash of news mediums. This interview marks a point where platforms like BP are drastically growing while cable news continues to decline.
Krystal and Saagar thought they could run down this old 77 year old, but Chris Matthews entire experience of doing interviews with shifty politicians shined through here and emerged. They got a whoopin'
Something tells me the children sound silly.
@@SteveJonesOwnsDSPGotta be bait. He couldn't even answer more than 2 questions. Just went on about how Bernie and socialism is a loser. Like an old grandpa who doesn't understand resumes are done through email and there is no way to walk-in to hand it to the owner
@@Doople He answered plenty of questions, and immediately identified points of impasse; that he didn't care to spend energy arguing with Krystal who already has her mind set. Does he have an opinion on Bernie? Of course - but that seems to be all you got from this interview.
People like Chris Mathews are the reason we're in this situation in the first place.
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No people looking for political messiah's are reason we are in the situation in. White Christian conservatives have their Messiah in Trump. Liberals have their Messiah Biden. Progressives have their messiah in Bernie Sanders. Frankly I'm done with your tribes. Yo Breaking Point maybe I'm old-fashioned like this but I think an elder deserves a little more respect than what you gave Mister Matthews. Tough questions are one thing being smarmy and insulting is something entirely different. You guys are losing it.
@@galemartin9155lolol no one agrees with you
Thank you BP for reminding me why I don't watch Chris Matthews.
@@galemartin9155 lol thank you for your service
Anyone count how many times Krystal tried to say goodbye? Lol. This man has every answer prepared way in advance and doesn’t think hardly anything out in real time. Debates exactly like Biden.
As opposed to President Outbreak Monkey 😅
@@mikewhite4560 I didn’t vote in 2020. No disagreement but this is specifically more like the way biden debates. Trump has his own bullshit way of debating but that’s a whole other story.
@@jasondoolin6476 They're not DEBATES...
@@mikewhite4560 it was an interview that turned in to a debate
what's the difference? When it comes ot a political media source, the topic is going to be politics....... and the hosts have a different view, they should keep quiet????? I don't know anyone that does that. If it was just a bio on chris matthews, thats an interview. @@mikewhite4560
You can tell he hates not being on TV anymore. He kept trying to prolong the interview after being told it was over. 😅
To anyone who has ever called Krystal a partisan hack: this guy right here is what a real partisan hack looks like
Krystal is the new generation of partisan hack. It takes decades to get to Matthews' level, but she's shown true aptitude when it comes to having blinders on and shifting the conversation to support her narrative.
Yes 👏
Krystal absolutely displays some attributes of that as well. She can’t ever seem to admit when a progressive policy is unpopular. For example, Nina Turner (who Kyle & Krystal both love) constantly pushes reparations, which polls at 30%. That is equally unpopular as overturning Roe v Wade was.
The same way Matthews carried him self is how Krystal carried herself with RFK and Vivek during interviews
Idk. She didn’t do a great job fencing with him
"I reject your reality and substitute my own."
-Chris Matthews
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The ultimate substitution of reality is printing more currency without increasing the universe of assets those dollars represent and then complaining that the debbil made you do it when everything costs a lot more than it did just before you printed the currency.
"The Hindenburg fell out of the sky. Some conservatives and centrists say this was the result of an obscure phenomenon called 'gravity' which draws objects together. But not so fast! A Board Member of a rival corporation which also manufactures dirigibles hoped out loud that the Hindenburg flight would not be successful. I think we know what caused it to crash to the Earth!" Krystal's Grandmother, probably.
"People love corporations!" Said man supposedly living in the real world
@@Doople I mean we do😊
@@Doople It's a stupid pose - people don't think about corporations much. They have more affinity for their branded consumer products. A corporation is just a fictitious person at law which holds property so that the people who own a fractional share of the fictitious entity can make productive collective use of its property for profit. Krystal and her fans have an elementary school level understanding of the world, so they reduce a host of interests (some benign, others neutral, a few adversarial) to the epithet "corporations."
It is insane that this man used to go on tv and pretend like he wasn't biased in what he presented and how he did it.
Absolutely fascinating watch. The clash of two generations of media. Probably we won't see many of such encounters so this was very interesting. kudos to BP for make it happen
So nice to see a difference of oppinion being expressed shown on a program. GO Krystal and Saagar.
Chris Matthews is Pure Establishment. You can tell where his blind spots are. Great interview.
For a so call liberal, Chris is very conservative on many issues.
This conversation was frustrating to listen to... but it does a good job showing how much we need people like Krystal and Saagar to replace the old guard in news media. Thank you both for your all your hard, honest work!
Shouldn't the ideas matter more than the recipients age? If anything wouldn't the older person have some knowledge we could learn from? Maybe it's a chance for us to grow instead of putting up new guards
She thinks the solution to inflation is to spend more money. Are you r*t@rded
@@mishakafaka6180the old have been running there knowledge in the senit for decades that's why it's the oldest it's ever been. Wake up it's why we are in this shit show they have been bought and manipulated to the point of no return.
Except Krystal came up in msn and is exactly the same as most current younger mainstream journalists. Her bias is palpable and she cuts of Saagar often who actually has interesting questions.
I wish I could upvote this comment a million times.
It’s always important you keep receipts, which means rolling out a couple footages of Chris saying these outlandish things about the Sanders campaign.
This is a case study on why legacy media has tanked and still is. This guy is dodgy as F and slippery in his stances, selective memory, and overall disconnect was amusing to see. He gets smart and level-headed as it suits him. He's the only one doesn't see how defensive and holier-than-thou he is -- or most likely he doesn't give a F,
Wow. This dude lives on a different planet. Deep inside the beltway, and so out of touch. What a great interview!
The other 2 are surely down with regular folks.
I majored in economics and have a Mba. What Chris said about economics is factually accurate
he's darn sure smarter than always talking krystal.
@@ricktrogdon2332yup, I wanted to turn it off so many times because of her. Mostly just how bad she is at interjecting and cutting someone off… but she can’t even do that so then it’s just two people trying to talk over each other.
@cjsawinski you watched a different video. She could barley finish a question
Chris: You're advocating for some kind of social welfare system. What state has that ever worked in?
Krystal: Florida.
Chris: Now you're just jumping all over the place
Legit lol'd at that part
Also, Alaska provides its citizens nearly $2K a month, essentially a UBI.
yea but there more willing to drill baby drill
Because Minimum wage has nothing to do with a welfare system. The state passed a law, that isn't a "welfare system." She was jumping all over the place. It was a total non sequitor
@@Guernicamanlike Scandinavian social services, it's all paid for by selling oil and other natural resources. The Alaska dividend is a great example of an effective UBI, but the source of the funds truly only works in low population areas.
Mainland USA is simply too large and populated to export your way to social services. That's and every other liberal cause runs squarely against the ways its funded.
Most grow wiser with age, others like Matthews, grow stubbornly removed from reality.
I think you need to flip that around.
Most get stubbornly removed from reality.
@@farhadchaudhry--
It would seem that way for all of us, at least temporarily, but irregardless, reality goes on and on.
I found it a highly spirited conversation that TV should focus on instead of one-sided back patting. Kudos to Chris and the hosts.
Kudos to Chris? Why? He seems absolutely unhinged from reality
Saagar's facial expressions were the best part of this interview.
I grow increasingly more disrespectful of Saagar. Not because I think he's particularly bad journalist, which I don't, but because he stays with an incompetent hack who is a true anchor around his neck. Talk about audience capture. It's almost to the point where it's not a metaphoR. *Krystal is the worst thing to ever happen to Kyle kulinski.* Absolute slide in his morals, ethics, and political perceptiveness since he married her. At least Saagar remains his own person.
I would much rather see him with Brianna gray Joy from rising. She's about the better person and a better progressive. Not that I like progressives, but if you're going to pick a lefty for counterbalance to center very slightly right, you might as well pick one who's a decent person.
Yeah, because he speaks so rarely. It’s all Krystal these days and he hardly ever pushes back.
@@theminister1154how did she change Kyle? I have to disagree with your negative opinions of Krystal, she is totally honest and provides really great insight -whether you agree with her perspective or not.
@@NevadaSmith2 Jimmy Dore can answer that better than I can (& that's where I got my opinion, though it certainly jibes with my suspicions..) Search for something like "Kyle Kulinski vs Kyle Kulinski" in jimmy's feed. You'll know you have the right one when you see 2 frames of kyle.
Also while she may be "honest," she is ENTIRELY a creature built of bias. I am not the least bit impressed. Her interviews in particular are EXECRABLE if she disagrees with the subject.
I would much rather see Saagar dump her. Saagar & Brianna from the new Breaking Points would be better even though I am largely opposed to ms. Joy's politics. Nonetheless I respect her far more than Krystal.
@@theminister1154incel alert
I’m laughing just picturing Krystal and Saagar deciding “there is now way we can put this crap behind a pay wall.” 😂 you guys did a great job staying composed with this.
She's msnbc lite 2.0 .. Its a shit show took about a year and progressive used by something to watch ..lol
As much as I disapprove of the blatant anti-European American de-facto speech codes present in every facet of American life, the Democratic establishment isn't blatantly affluphobic (bigoted against the rich). The slogans "Tax the rich" and "eat porky" have been tried around the world and are extremely effective at stoking villainous envy everywhere from Russia to Mexico, but it is the equivalent of naming Native Americans "red skins" that ought to be scalped, or in this case guillotined, and have their land and/or property redistributed through something like the homesteading act.
A truly fair taxation policy would be a dollar amount paid by every citizen, maybe a hundred dollars, maybe ten thousand depending on what the poor could afford. Because of the extreme pressure of villainous envy the state would enact a flat rate of taxation on everyone to be a little more progressive. A true progressive tax system is plainly evil. Also, plenty of people calling for this are Christians obeying their various church's social teachings which means even left wing Christians are theocratic. The far Left and the far Right (on January 6th there was a right wing riot who's participants are guilty of treason which may be fewer riots in number but much more dangerous to the Republic) must be stopped. Police must be ready and willing to use live ammunition and full auto to stop these things whether it comes from BLM, Antifa, or traitors.
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He's basically un-watchable
@@Patrick-ou6wb Basically? No, he IS un-watchable.
Vote 3rd party, end the duopoly....
@@johnnymeyer4253third party will never win anything. You need to change the party from the inside through primarys
It isn't really a debate if the guy speaks over her every time she tries to ask a question!
Krystal nailed it in this interview and didn’t let him get off the hook with anything. Saagar also did well, although he could have pushed back a little harder at times, but he played the role of being a “good cop” which balanced Krystal well. Chris was so condescending and is so representative of old media being stuck in this corporate bubble. He came off unable to handle pushback from Krystal at all. I really wanted him to address Krystal’s point about corporations taking advantage of inflation. He just blinked and didn’t want to hear it.
He’s stuck on his talking points. Wouldn’t know what to do if he deviated at all.
The laugh in the background from Sager after Chris said “Hillary is likable in person” was amazing. His smile through out this interview was great
I can't stand Hillary, but my wife had minor dealings with her on a couple occasions, and said she was really warm and friendly, and I believe her. Some people are just poison on a public level.
I haven't reached that part of the interview yet but that's a very strange thing for Matthews to say: He famously hates her!
Teach the producers how and when to cut a mic 🎤
@@michaelh.117 That's probably because Hillary Clinton thinks that anybody she meets in person must be pretty important. It's easy to be nice to individuals in elite, one-on-one environments. She detests the general population and when she has to talk to her "fellow Americans" on national television or during debates, it's hard not to let that mask slip.
@@michaelh.117 Everyone who has personally dealt with her says this. They are puzzled by the contrast between the warm and genuine person they know and the frigid and calculated perception of her public persona. 🤷♂️
Krystal and Saagar: People want a candidate who will make things better.
Matthews: Actually they want a candidate with a firm handshake and a dynamite smile.
When did he say that?
He didn't say that but I thought he said Politics was "cosmetic"?
Most people vote on who they relate to and has similar values. Most people are policy hawks.
And a smooth voice don't forget the voice.
He’s right. That’s what Trump does
This was a great interview! Seemed honest and respectful! Great job!
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I loved the interview too!!
I watched the whole thing. One of the BEST interviews! Fascinating conversation.
Chris giving "old man screams into the sky" energy throughout this debate 😂
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
he's so out of touch like jesus
You’re giving ignorant child vibes
Him repeatedly saying I live in the real world seems to me like he's living in the past and is happy with the system we live in. He offered no change of course other than don't spend any more money. Crystal tried to ask him how he felt about trade, laws, people's rights, voting and all Chris wanted to do was talk like a history teacher and tell us what we can't do. Boomer talk 101
My word. The patience Krystal & Saagar had through this thing...
Prime example of someone who has lived 75+ years on this planet as opposed to two people who have live no more then 35 years has a view of reality.
Saagar really needs his own show.
I think his face needs it's own show 8)
"Were did the money come from, were did the money come from" - something Matthews never said when it pertains to war/military.
Exactly!
They literally asked Matthews for his point of view dozens of times and he berated them instead of sharing his views, and then he complained about not getting to share them.
When he said that people don’t trust the media because there are too many options. 😂
Later, I sort of felt like he meant that there should be a place where all views could be heard, but . . . Who knows? It was interesting, bit frustrating because they just don’t get it. It’s a foreign concept to him that a government can help people and not be run by the filthy rich.
@@ChrissyBeTalkingI mean he's right I believe in the sense that there was more trust in this country when there was fewer broadcasters. It's easier to control public relations that way than it is now with so many options.
They also had better and more ethical journalists. Some of them could even be trusted. And the idea that we shouldn't have independent media is just a joke. It's completely out of synch with the freedom of speech principle that helps define this nation.
Apparently because he lives in “the real world” and doesn’t want more government spending. I’m not even sure he knows what neoliberalism is.
So he doesn't out his corporate overlords, he must have gotten a hell of severance package.
@@Kid_Ikaris I agree, but not. I agree that there was more trust, but I think it was misplaced trust. They did the same thing that they do now except now, because of the internet, we really can do our own research.
I was in HEAVEN the first time I was able to watch MSNBC all day. I would rush home from work to catch all my shows. And when I tell you, I bought everything they said, hook line and sinker. Every once in a while, the logic didn't make sense, but I still trusted them. Then, one day, I came across TYT, now here we are.
I trusted them. Just like my parents trusted their local news, but they had an agenda, we just didn't know and it was too difficult to get to additional information. I think.
Random thought: I'm black. I grew up in an all black neighborhood and I didn't personally know anyone who did crime stuff, but subconsciously, it pains me to admit that I felt like black people were a bit lazy and prone to stealing. Not the people I knew, but in general. When I think back to why I would have that belief, when no one around me displayed that, I fully believe that it was because I only saw black criminals on the news. Now that I think more critically, I noticed (pre Floyd) that the news went out of their way to not show the faces of criminals who were not black for run of the mill crimes. Anyway, I think I'm cured, and I noticed that particular agenda only because it affected me, but who knows what other effects they have/had on people because we trusted them and they had agendas?
Oh my! Sorry for the book. I got carried away.
It’s impossible to debate someone who believes they already hold the correct and perfect view on everything.
This applies to Krystal
I have never agreed so much with Chris Matthews in my life. Why didn’t he sound this sane on CNN
Chris: “ I am a political expert” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He is. He may not be right all the time, but he was Tip O’Neal’s senior aide and knows how congress works.
Well, Bernie lost twice, so he was right. Wishful thinking that because Trump can win, then so can Bernie .
He's just saying he's less of a policy expert than a politics expert.
I’m extremely shocked he had the balls to goal on the show. Most corporate news hosts Do not do this at all. So kudos to him
He is not a corporate news host. He is an ex-corporate news host. It's not like he has anything better to do with his spare time now.
@@88wildcathe’s actually a very busy man, I dated him for a bit on the side.
He might’ve had the balls to go on the show. But man this dude is out of touch. He basically destroyed himself in the interview
@@drlarryhonesquire😂
I’m glad that Breaking Points is willing to have older and media types on their show too.
Why is it so difficult for certain individuals to let other people finish speaking before they open their mouths?
Love his line IF YOUR A WORKING PERSON WHAT WORLD DOES HE LIVE IN
Saagar's unconscious morbidly fascinated facial expressions throughout this are golden
@mericanmodi8479 I'm not even saying he was wrong about everything, but CM was far too rude, scatterbrained, and defensive in this for him to "destroy" anyone.
@mericanmodi8479 I'm willing to drop the charge of "rudeness" if you concede the charges of "scatterbrained" and "defensive" without contest. That said, if your perception of decency is shaped by Narendra Modi, then that goes a long way toward explaining our differences.
@mericanmodi8479 I interpreted your username as indicating your support for Modi, not that your name was also Modi. Apologies for my assumption. We just disagree about Chris Matthews here and we'll have to leave it at that.
@mericanmodi8479 Respectfully, I don't think I have been racist toward you. I misinterpreted your username as indicating support for a political figure on a political RUclips channel, and apologized for the misinterpretation. Had your name been any other common Indian name, the mistake would not have happened. To call this racist or orientalist feels like a trump card to shut down discussion.
@mericanmodi8479 What colour does the grass have, in your world?
I love how when you were talking about more general critiques of CNN/MSNBC he was like "give me specifics about me, I can't answer for them." Then you bring up his "executed in Central Park" comment about Bernie, which was possibly the most hysterical media comment of the entire election cycle, then he first tries to deny ever saying it then he just moves on without addressing it at all.
Exactly!!!! The way he tried to cut her off from even asking anything about how the media treated Bernie.
He’s a slippery little snake
They’ve should’ve played that clip
@@ClownCarCoup Saager was looking at his laptop so I think he was trying to find it. Too bad I really wanted to see his reaction.
@@jaxom07 production should have had it loaded.
I thought it was a great segment. You don't often get to see people with different points of view challenge each other like that, and it didn't seem like Chris was expecting it. Chris has been on the sidelines for a while, and I was happy to see him and thought he did great.
He didn’t even allow Krystal to finish her first sentence.
Weird. I didn't know Krystal SPOKE IN SENTENCES...😅
Wow this was absolutely fascinating. Two eras of media colliding. If anyone ever wanted to understand the angst underlying Americans' political choices for the last 8 years, they should look no further than this interview. Chris Matthews staunchly defending the old guard view of politics while Saagar and Krystal challenge him with a populist approach. Phenomenal work. This interview will go down in history.
Down in history? 😂😂😂
You can tell who's been around the block a few times, while the other are just trying to get on the block.
@@scottwhitman7951 Yeah, he has been around the block more than a few times, way too many times. They are the problem with our country. They feed us BullShiat, and some of us eventually wake up from it, but many don't. Those that don't, then wonder who is actually hurting them and they fail to look at the media as one of the entities that does. Which then leads to corporatism. Who controls the media? CORPORATIONS, who are always looking for their personal interest, while feeding crap disguised as, "That is what is good for us."
@@uncleb7821look at the context. The year 2023: falling ratings of mainstream media, low unemployment yet high discontent among American workers, the highest level of credit card debt in American history, a housing crisis, and the highest levels of deaths of despair that we've seen in American history. All of this and a huge gap in wealth at the end of a 50 year long project off neoliberal economic policies that both parties and the American media signed onto. Chris Matthews was a major figure from that era of politics. Might I remind you what Chris Matthews did to oust progressive voices from the media (Phil Donahue) in the early aughts as well. This is the only time I've seen anyone take Matthews or the old guard to task for the failures of the last 50 years. 50 years from now, people will absolutely be able to understand what the underlying discontent was about in this particular era simply by watching this interview. Most certainly historic.
@@scottwhitman7951he’s certainly compared more children of holocaust survivors to Hitler than anyone else I know of
Chris isn't even at MSNBC anymore and yet he is still the perfect example of why MSNBC and cable news is so condescending and out of touch, and why it's becoming a dinosaur that only the dying generations still watch.
This interview sounded like a hit job and very disrespectful to their guest Matthews. They didn’t even listen to his answers or let him explain their accusations thrown at him especially the woman interviewer.
This should be a weekly segment. I love arguments 😊
I love how he really didnt stop and listen to the questions coming from Krystal. Never crossed his mind that both bernie and trump tapped into populist politics. Populism is beyond his comprehension.
almost like his whole way of thinking has been groomed by his job
Krystal already established that she isn't even on the same page as Matthews on what causes economic inflation. Secondly, Matthews has already her all of Krystal's points all his life, as he said here: (34:29) "You've made your point. I've heard all the points all my life..."
Yes! Agreed. Not only was he not hearing her and her question about why and how this new populism came forward. But I really don't think he knows what neoliberalism is. I mean, I know he's said ot a million times but I don't think he knows why. I don't think he knows what populism is either. To be honest.
It's almost like he was an MSNBC anchor.
I didn't hear it that way. He really is more of a "reality" or "moderate" in politics. It was an interesting conversation to me because Krystal an Saagar like to talk in theoretic terms but there are still a lot of realities to politics and spending money which I think Chris did a good job of trying to explain. Just my opinion though.
He is a perfect example of everything wrong with mainstream media.
Yep, you nailed it.
@@linjicakonikon7666 I respect he is entitled to his opinion but claim HE was the adult? ...we must have watched two different videos.
Saagar was having daydreams about punching him in the face but he stayed calm.
Jesus, that ending. It's like trying to get off the phone with your mom.
Matthews still thinks he's doing hardball, extremely difficult listening to him constantly interrupting the questions, good job you two👍
Worse, Matthews still thinks he was selected to do Hardball because he "knows politics" instead of because he's a stodgy, interrupting jackass.
I’m a conservative gay man in California and disagree with a lot of Krystal’s policies but the way she held his feet to the fire while he was blatantly rude to her was amazing
So you're opposed to yourself? Weird.
She redeemed herself in this one.
What does being gay and from California have to do with fk all? Just curious why you think that's important to anyone but your mom.
What r u conserving exactly
@@thalgott3How about having some conservative views while being progressive on others… did you maybe consider that? Gay men are not a monolith.
Krystal wants free stuff, Kyle is rubbing off on her.
Chris Matthew's giving advice on being likable is an absolute riot.
I am glad I am not the only one who noticed that. LOL
like him better than always talking krystal. lord, that woman never shuts up.
@@ricktrogdon2332 Um, it's her show...so, what the F do you watch her for if you don't like listening to her?
YESSSS!!! OMG!!
"Incessantly talking over the interviewer's questions is *sure* to make me more likeable!"
He was right
How the hell does he get so confrontational in such a mild debate.
Confident ignorance
1) Saagar literally called him a 'fixture' and 'product' of MSNBC. 2) The way they posed questions like "do you regret your Russia coverage..." trying to open him to vulnerabilities. 3) Leading questions and framing with answers already pre-built 4) Accusations without readily provided proof ("you did this at MSNBC..." *finger pointing by Saagar), etc. Maybe if you put yourself in his position for once, you'd understand.
Because he's old and senile now.
Bro was big pressed.
He's an old man who is also a know-it-all. They're usually like this.
How did Krystal Ball manage to make Chris Matthews make sense 🤦🏻♂️
Thought Chris was great! There was a time where we listened to all old people, left/right/moderate, while situations change, sentiments/principles/human nature repeats over and over. We need someone every now and then to get us out of our lived experience and expose us to the reality of cyclical human nature.
As soon as he said “I’m a political expert,” I knew it was going to be weird
Ego
Ego to the moon, with a little bit of hubris and arrogance blended in.
Chris Mathews is a prodigious D-bag.
100%
He should become a spin class instructor, because he is an expert at political spin!
Chris Matthews is great at dodging questions, and not admitting he made mistakes.
He gave a masterclass in dodging questions.
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He didn't give anything! Krystal had to teach him what he should already know.
Yeah, he has too big of an ego to admit his mistakes, and he has made A LOT!!!
I would argue that he sucks at dodging questions, negative charisma and boomer logic and reasoning skills.
just like larry summers@@stephenrussell9545
Hard to get a word in when Matthews is speaking.
It's worrying that people will unquestioningly consume the narrative of a person as unhinged as Chris Matthews
Fantastic. Dude 100% wasn’t used to the media not giving him softball bullshit. Great work by both of you.
He destroyed Krystal
He had a show called “Hardball”. This is how he always had discussions on his shows
@@ajgranddude he literally said if the media is going to talk about hunter biden why not talk about Jared? The media dug up anything and beyond real relating to trump and came up empty handed so they made up lies. 99% of media are leftist. Fox is the only one that will kind of rebel, yet they fired tucker for being too real. No media msm outlet is good, but how could you possibly thing that this dude plays hardball? Crystal and saggar are basically msm mirror image. It’s all fake asf. They’re all selling out to someone. The fact that a handful of comedians and some “conservative” channels that call balls and strikes is the only honest reporting you can possibly consume is sad. Crystal has nailed kyle from behind so good that he’s actually sold out. Jimmy dore and rogan are actually progressives, yet 0% of media support them, they only attack.
@@ownthelibsin what planet?
@@ownthelibs No he just talked over her and tried to bully her That's not winning an argument
My gosh this was a fantastic interview. I was proud of Saagar for standing up and making hid voice heard during the tough parts of the interview and Krystal did a good job at softening her voice when she gets in her bulldog mode. Very tough interview and you both stuck the landing.
You guys did a great job of being respectful yet assertive. I wouldn't have this guy back though. He has no interest in even letting you finish a sentence, let alone having a real conversation about anything.
2 minutes in and Matthews has jumped over 5 topics while avoiding the opening question. WTF?
This was wild, indeed. Credit to both Krystal and Saagar, he is a BEAST of an establishment Neo-liberal and to conitnuously ask the tough questions, not letting up on holding his feet to the fire, I was thoroughly impressed. I at times started whimping out as a spectator, thinking maybe we were going too hard. But NOPE, Krystal and Saagar were not letting up. Thank you guys for doing the hard work.
Wildly stupid!
These morons are the product of progressive indoctrination and lack of accountability.
How so?
Agree except for the issue of inflation. Krystal and Saager failed to push back on Mathews' insistence that nothing could be done. The reality of the US's profligate military spending in Ukraine gives a lie to that assertion.
@karen-qm7og The spending in Ukraine is inflationary, as is all spending UNLESS real competition is forced by having an antimonopolistic market economy like Adam Smith outlined in his body of work. The brain dead Ayn Rand disciples of libertarianism fail to emphasize that Adam Smith had a strong role for government as a referee to prevent the corporatism and monopolies we have today. The corporations go for any price gouging they can get away with because the failure of the US government to bust up near monopolies like Amazon that have a position where they can charge what they want.