I loved the M67 grenade during my service. Though they were heavy and bulky, I carried 4 of them. They're priceless for clearing out bad guys behind obstacles and for when you don't know exactly where he is. People scoff at them and similar grenades when dropped from drones because the target usually runs away, but they don't realize how dense and destructive the fragments are. A fragment the size of a BB going almost 10X faster than a bullet will bleed you out in a few minutes, though you can run just fine.
I recall the THUMP and WHAM (concussion) of the C13 detonation. It does not quite come through on yt vid audio. I respected them. The first time we did quals we were shown the timber facing of the throwing bunker - splintered wood, grenade splinters that looked like flint buried in the timbers, even buried quite deeply in the armoured glass viewing window.
@@martkbanjoboy8853 At certain distances, you can hear the shrapnel tearing through the air at mach 10, and you're glad you're not in the path of that shrapnel.
Also if you don't get them with the fragmentation, the blast is very disorienting. I can't speak through first-hand experience, but a grenade going off near you has got to ring your bell. So, similar to a concussion grenade. It'd soften up most adversaries for a more "direct apriach" I would expect.
I wasn't referring to the effectiveness of the grenade, but its' smooth surface. It slipped from your hand too easily when training a nervous serviceman who never threw a live grenade before. You get past that once you've thrown enough of them.
In grenade training you NEVER go down until you see where it has landed in case of a misfire. I was running a range once and we had one, it was a lonely walk checking the area lol.
Ok, this device has an injury range of 30 meters. That's about how far most folks can pretty much toss one. The fuzes are made by the lowest bidder. Once again the targets are well within 30 meters. As far away as one throws it, the grenade actually shakes the ground a bit. We don't watch it, throw and get down. Almost as one action.
I was watching a recollection of an ex-ROK soldier who recalled an event at a live fire range. They were shooting live grenades from grenade launchers. One failed to explode. The range NCO (?) had to walk down the range to look/detonate it. He was delayed a few minutes for some reason. As he eventually started walking towards the unexposed launched grenade, it exploded by itself. He was spared by a few minutes.
Pulling the pin doesn't arm it though. It's your friend so long as you're holding the grenade properly so that the spoon isn't released. You can even put the pin back in and keep your friend for a while longer.
Pulling the pin does nothing unless you also pull the safety thumb clip in addition to the circular pin. You also need to undo the electrical tape you wrapped around the spoon and pin as an additional safety. Then in addition to all that… the grenade still will not detonate until the safety lever is allowed to swing freely releasing the striker to hit the primer on the delay detonator.
@Zachary Michaelis Maybe how to draw a little smiling face with eyes and pull off the safeties and put it in a cardboard box for the parents to burn in their fireplaces… that would work nicely.
One error in the narrative: the spring clip that you see about 1/2 inch from the top of the grenade does NOT prevent the pin from being pulled. It is entirely possible to pull the pin and throw the grenade without removing this 'safety' clip. If that happens and the clip is not dislodged when the grenade hits the ground, the grenade won't go off. A fun fact about the M67 is that it was weighted and sized to be as close to a baseball as possible.
That is a problem. A soldier is going to want to throw it like a baseball. It is more round compared to earlier grenades. It is more likely to bounce with a vigorous throw. The 'old' Commonwealth/British techniques of lobbing grenades while lying prone etc? They were taught for a good reason. Of course our training plan said to throw it like a baseball.
@@martkbanjoboy8853 Our training over the last 30 years (at least) has explicitly dealt with your objection. The "lobbing" type of throw has consistently been taught in order to mitigate the possibility of the grenade bouncing back. Perhaps you could verify your information before posting? (I'm currently a Field Grade officer and will be retiring soon. MY information is from actually going through the training.)
@@murphywd1971 is it for that? We were told it was just easier to send them further that way, and was easier to make it land where you actually wanted, especially if we had wet or oily gloves or hands, I was never told about them bouncing back, I mean this things have like a 50 yard kill range out in the open, you'd have to have a mighty fine hand for it to bounce back such a distance.
@@anarchyandempires5452 First off, the kill radius is 5m and the casualty producing radius is 15m. You should look at chapter 3 in Army TC 3-23.30 It describes the throwing technique and explicitly warns to check for obstacles that may cause the grenade to bounce back. Soldiers are cautioned against a flat, baseball style throw.
I threw just one during my time in the Marines Corps. In Desert Storm we had a couple of incendenary grenades in our tank. They were for destroying the tank if we had to abandon it.
I remember the sergeant telling us that the M67 was designed to be the size, weight, and circumference of a baseball (hence the nickname "baseball" grenade) because every American boy knew how to through a baseball with accuracy and distance. Now all we need to do is start shipping baseballs to Ukraine.
The M67 can send shrapnel farther than they teach us. I caught a sharp piece in my boot while training in the next range over from a grenade course once. Quite a bit outside that supposed 50m max radius
Unfortunately not many smoke grenades seem to be in use. Much of the front does not have med evac vehicles readily available, one recent (very sickening) POV video shows a Ukrainian losing his life while trying to retrieve a comrade, the lack of training and equipment demonstrated in the video was heart breaking.
@@prfwrx2497 Please don't say that. He went back under fire to retrieve a wounded comrade. I don't want to see your ill advised comments about who "lost his nerve" or not.
Local defence volunteers may have had limited training and experience but that was 10 months ago. Someone going back for a wounded comrade is humanity at work. Not training or the lack of it. Despite what you see in movies grenades are kept safely in a pouch rather than hanging by their fly off lever so not seeing smoke grenades is not an indicator of them not being used. You can lob all the smoke you like in a contact. It doesn't stop the bullets.
Thanks for another detailed and well documented video. I have to think these are useful and essential weapons given the number of trench clearing videos have been posted lately.
In the recent videos uploaded by Civ Div (the ones with the BMP-2 being neutralized), as the guys are throwing a grenade into the top hatch of the vehicle one of the dudes asks "Was that an M67?" I figure he recognized the blast.
Old retired Army Grunt and I fought in two wars in my 26 years on Active Duty as a Senior NCO. Like most fellow Infantry NCO’s, we carried as many grenades, extra ammo and smoke grenades as possible and the M-67’s worked great as they had a good amount of explosive to do more damage than common soviet type grenades we faced. Grenades work great inside concrete buildings as the shock wave stuns those it doesn’t kill which is why we enter the room as quickly as safely possible to take advantage of the time while the enemy is stunned. There’s a lot of field expedient AP mines a soldier can make with hand grenades as a booby trap type device.
Infantry basic Ft Benning Georgia 1995 we had finished the live grenade range for the first time and we assembled in formation. We were standing around and a sliver of hot metal went down my bdu blouse at the neck. The crazy thing was we had been done throwing for some time. Only thing I can figure it was summer and really hot and the tiny piece went up in a updraft and then came down.
I wanted to see the result of that G vs Ayyylmaos test, but it looks like Big Caliber Trouble has been disappeared. The only external search results that reference it are this video. Now I may never know its suitability for anti-incursion defense.
It may interest you to know that, based on the list of locations of the Day & Zimmermann corporation as per their website, all M67 grenades, whether produced under either US or Canadian contract, are made in USA. There is no Canadian production facility. The images in your video make me wonder if the green body color of the grenades is a different shade for the Canadian contract grenades, as compared to US contract grenades.
5:45 When you're throwing a grenade NEVER stop to watch where it falls, it's too late, it's going where you threw it regardless, you immediately take cover.
The humble hand grenade is one of those things that doesn't grab headlines, but is just as essential to a soldier as a rifle and bullets. Good to see US + NATO is keeping them well stocked.
While the grenades we use in Canada are M67 variants, we designate them as the C13 or C13A1 fragmentation grenade. Neat to see our contribution to the Ukrainians in action.
Honestly they donated -10k. They don’t have a lot of them lying around in the first place so they had to keep stock for themselves because, well they’re a budget army, but also, it’s better to have fresher explosives 🤠
@@marcusaetius9309 We're dumping our old crap to ukraine to make room for fresher kit. Also helping ukraine now is better than fighting the russians later on due to not doing anything. Our training of the Ukrainians since 2015 has really paid off. If you can't tell its only a matter of time before a major conflict starts between NATO and the Sino-russo alliance, idk what to tell you.
5:35 training flaw. If the instructed person does not duck for cover the instructor does not order - he pulls the person into seafety. Saying "go down" after the granade is armed and thrown is wayyyyy to late, is a serious error. Luckly the soldier did duck.
The M67's weight is an eye opener at 14 oz. The older lemon grenades weighed 16 oz and the older still pineapples the Army was phasing out in the early 1960s weighed a hefty 21 oz. I have no experience with so-called offensive grenades.
A kid blew himself up at the range just after i had finished my throw. ducked as he threw and bounced off the wall Infront of him. he and the instructor survived but that was the end of service for them both.
I recall seeing photos of army of the Republic of South Vietnam (arvn) soldier in the early 70s with a M1, M33 and m67 grenade on his belt and will be interesting to see if the ukrainian soldiers do the same but with Eastern and NATO grenades.
The M33 is the same as the M67, except the M67 has the safety clip. The USA supported the South Vietnamese and before that the French fighting against the Communist insurgents all the way back to the end of WW2.
@@zoiders People watch too many movies, where every actor has a hand grenade hanging from their belts or pockets. No matter how much training people get... some will always want to act like movie actors. I heard some US Troops ended up killing themselves due to this, and that is why the safety clip was added to the M67. A Grenade is supposed to be in a tight fitting pouch or shipping container. Also unlike movies, only some troops are supposed to have grenades.
I saw something about these grenades, they supposedly have a second hole for a pin, that acts as a hammer block. So you can pull the main pin, release the spoon, the rest the hammer and replace the main pin. Then the grenade can be used to set up a tripwire mine.
@@chrisbrent7487 the striker, has to physically hit a primer, like on a cartridge. There is a second pin hole, which supposedly can be used as a hammer stop. Because you're not always going on patrol with a zero delay fuze.
@@wes11bravo Smoke grenade fuses only have about one gram of a burning compound designed for lighting smoke grenades or less lethal grenades. Having a blasting cap inside a smoke grenade would just blow it apart and the guy using it would lose some fingers or a hand. They manufacture specific fuses with no delay for detonating grenades. Usually they are marked on the striking lever to make it clear that they are no delay fuses. Smoke grenades like the M18 use the M201A1 fuse. It wont detonate a frag. The M67 uses the M213 fuse which has a full sized blasting cap on it so it will detonate the comp B filler of the grenade.
Dumb question but if you were to duct tape more bbs around the grenade the shrapnel would be better ? They really don’t look like they have much shrapnel
Technically speaking, anything added to a grenade to increase lethality is a war-crime. Treaties between Nations stipulate what weapons/bombs/ammo can be used. Anyone found 'gassing' their grenades could be in a lot of trouble. Same thing holds for 'dum-dum' bullets or improvised hollow-points made by turning the bullet backwards in its case. Don't make sense, but neither does War.
I killed a man with an M67 fragmentation grenade when he was pinned down and trapped in a rubbled building. I was awarded a Navy and Marine Corps Achevement Medal with Combat Distinguishing Device (NAM). I can attest that the grenade is an essential part of an infantryman’s load out. I used to carry 4 on me as part of my standard combat load. In combat there were multiple occasions when I used all four fragmentation grenades but very rarely would I use all 7 rifle magazines.
Good shit bro! I carried 9 mags, 4 grenades, and an AT4. I rarely used the grenades. I carried the AT-4 but my Team leader wanted to shoot it in a building lol My squad leader was tossing grenades in a ditch infront of us and he took all of mine lol then he got a NAM for it lol
@@kli2887 I was in a LAR BN so we didn’t often carry AT4’s. Dismounted operations you might pull them off the vehicles and carry them. I was originally trained as an 0352 (TOW Gunner). Backblast is no joke. It’ll kill ya. I not only trained on the SMAW and TOW systems but also the LAW. A civilian employee came and we spent a block of time learning the old Vietnam era LAW system. My third deployment to Iraq the Marine Corps was issuing us LAW’s. Same deal we hardly ever “humped” them though. The LAW is tiny and relatively light and perfect for taking out a technical. The entire LAW round and tube weighs less than a single SMAW rocket for instance not including the huge and heavy launcher.
@@kli2887 The lesson: Become a Squad Leader. You also won’t have to burn shit. Like in so many other conflicts in history… if you’re burning s hit… you know you’re on the low end of the totem pole. I’ve been the man pouring JP8 into a 55 gallon “sh it bucket” and I’ve also been the senior NCO in a firefight that earlier resulted in the death of multiple Marines (my friends and brothers) and decided to be the one to throw the fragmentation grenade (because if anyone is at risk of dying from what needs to be done it ought to be the senior man). A Sgt. isn’t a general. He’s a leader but he’s also a fighter. Fighter/Leader is how my Platoon commander described it in my award citation. Semper Fi 😂🤣👍🏻
@@jastrapper190 lol true. I did get a Combat Cert for taking the initiative in providing cover/suppressive fire, luring the snipers and pointing out where the snipers were, etc. Which was kind of odd, cause half of that i got yelled at not to do. lmao I was an 0311 and I would see LAR go out zero-dark thirty or late nights and I was like... gangster. We did a night patrol in the city with Nods. We watched people just hanging out or eating outside. They never knew we were there. This was Najaf 2004.
@@kli2887 I was in the country at that time. When I was with Alpha Company 1st LAR we did quite a few raids at zero dark thirty in the city of Ar Rutbah and surrounding areas (2004 and 2005). My BN was also involved in toppling Baghdad and then immediately driving up North to Tikrit in 2003 (Sadams Hometown) where there were still active duty Republican Guard units fighting. What’s a “Combat Cert”? You mean a Combat Action Ribbon? We’re you Army or Marine?
I’m honestly surprised that we didn’t get a video on M67 grenades showing up in Ukraine earlier given how many much footage there has already been of these nades to begin with after nearly a year into this war
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I remember getting a bad batch of these during osut, our range was put on hold for one that did not detonate. Waited hours for eod to show up to blow it. We restarted, just to have another failure. Drill said “fuck it” and just made us run all the way back to the barracks. Fuck you, grenade.
House clearing in Afghan, tape a smoke grenade (red) to a frag, pull pin on frag, throw into building....frag blows and ruptures the smoke....bang and a burn....
Thank you for the video. I’ve been wondering about their supply of grenades as I saw a few videos a couple months back where one soldier turns to another and asks “Do you have any more grenades?”, and they did not. Not a good situation. That and with the rise of drones I imagine that a plethora of cheap reliable area weapons is in great demand.
Good we are supplying the Ukrainians with these weapons so they can defend themselves from the orc invaders and to hopefully push them completely out of Ukraine territory. We should be sending them the older lots since they are burning through them at a fast pace, and we need to restock our stocks with new lots since we too will need them before long.
Imo 🍍 grenades had better fragmentation more deadly but I'm sure was more expensive and couldn't be thrown as far The fact they are spherical was said because it saved money time in training because the thinking was every American has played or thrown a baseball, but the explosive powder in it is a lot stornger then the pineapple grenade so the frags probobly due fly farther just in smaller chunks Who knows I'm no scientist tho
Good. The M67 is much more powerful and deadly than the Russian counterparts. I've thrown quite a few of both NATO and Warsaw pact grenades in test ranges, and there is no doubt the M67 is deadlier.
I can remember taking that walk away from the rest of the company to prime my L2 grenades with the range officer. They got shut of the L2s in the early noughties and now use the L109A1. Reference the fuses - I think they ship with them in now since the land mine ban. They changed the design of the smoke grenade as well to stop the fuses being swapped.
Nice to see that we are protecting the environment with bio degradable packaging for the deadly war materiel these days. What is interesting is the AK74su with the Aimpont on a side mount. Some of the irregulars must be ordering this kit online or crowd funding it.
@@jamesmcardle1494 The AK74 doesn't fire lead bullets. The 74 round has a cavity in its jacket behind the tip of the projectile and a steel core penetrator behind it. This causes the bullet to tumble in flesh or poke a hole in soft body armour it encounters. Hope this helps.
What is that piece of metal around the pull pin? I served as an infantryman in the USMC and have killed people with the M67. I know the grenade and I’ve never seen a fragmentation grenade with that piece of metal… in training (we would throw 1-3 real live grenades per year in training on average) or from the huge lots (mountains) of frags we were issued in combat.
@@mrbillybob444 interesting. That’s new. Never seen that before. I can see why. Carrying one of those little bombs for months at a time gets scary. Low crawling and shimming over walls and such the grenades get beat up. I had everyone under me put electrical tape on their fragmentation grenades so even if the thumb clip and pin are inadvertently pulled and the spoon is free the grenade still won’t detonate. We once through a live fragmentation grenade to a man pin downed in rubble because of that tape. I’d still tape up my grenades. It’s like strapping instant death on your body. At least with a stick of C4 you can shoot it and it won’t detonate (the cap isn’t already inserted like a frag).
@@jastrapper190 Those are not new. They have been on the baseball grenade and possible the M61 grenade since Vietnam. Someone tried to frag a barracks Sargent with the baseball grenade (either M33 or M65) but only pulled the pin before tossing it up on the ceiling of the barracks Sargent's room. When we found it, the grenade had that safety wire holding the spoon on the grenade! This was July of 1971.
@@RetiredRadioChaser I don’t think that is what I’m referring to. Let me explain. When you dump the M67 fragmentation grenade out of that cardboard tube. It will container three “safeties” the first is the most well known (the pull pin and circular ring). This is the first restraint that keeps the “spoon” from rotating. The second is the “Thumb Clip” which also must be flicked off and some might describe as “wire”. After you remove the thumb clip and pull the grenade while holding it a death grip as taught to right or left handed throwers. Once you throw the spoon is free to rotate which allows a stricter to “snap” down onto a waterproof primer. Which initiates the delayed (or instantaneous detonation depending on fuse type) explosion which sets off the Composition B explosive shattering the spherical casing which looks like a golfball on the inside and breaks apart into similarly sized “dimple segments”. The grenade I saw on the video had an added bit of metal that I have never seen on an M67 fragmentation grenade. I used quite a few of them between 2002-2006.
@@RetiredRadioChaser If I might ask did you serve at that time? How did you come across the story. I had to order a building get rubbled. Because, in part, we threw one of the guys in the building a live grenade (thumb clip and pull pin were removed. We found them. Electrical tape was holding down the spoon). So I 100% believe what you are saying to be true. I later had to shoot some of the individuals with my LT’s pistol until it became sickening and we started using fragmentation grenades. It’s how I am in a unique position to actually have killed someone with an M67. I was awarded a NAM with Combat V for the efforts. And more was mentioned in the citation. I was told by a VA Service officer who has seen a lot of “lower awards” and he said citations never include those types of details but mine sure does. Lol. It uses words like “actions directly contributed to the elimination of four enemy insurgents” and “ effectively engaged an enemy RPG team with the 25 mm Bushmaster Cannon” nut it gets the point across… 😂
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The F1 is a very lethal effective weapon.
You can tell the Canadian versions of the M67 by the small "Sorry" stenciled on it under the "High Explosive, Fragmentation".
I loved the M67 grenade during my service. Though they were heavy and bulky, I carried 4 of them. They're priceless for clearing out bad guys behind obstacles and for when you don't know exactly where he is. People scoff at them and similar grenades when dropped from drones because the target usually runs away, but they don't realize how dense and destructive the fragments are. A fragment the size of a BB going almost 10X faster than a bullet will bleed you out in a few minutes, though you can run just fine.
I recall the THUMP and WHAM (concussion) of the C13 detonation. It does not quite come through on yt vid audio. I respected them. The first time we did quals we were shown the timber facing of the throwing bunker - splintered wood, grenade splinters that looked like flint buried in the timbers, even buried quite deeply in the armoured glass viewing window.
@@martkbanjoboy8853 At certain distances, you can hear the shrapnel tearing through the air at mach 10, and you're glad you're not in the path of that shrapnel.
Also if you don't get them with the fragmentation, the blast is very disorienting. I can't speak through first-hand experience, but a grenade going off near you has got to ring your bell.
So, similar to a concussion grenade. It'd soften up most adversaries for a more "direct apriach" I would expect.
I was in the 4th ID in the early 90s. I loved seeing the Ironhorse next to your name!
I wasn't referring to the effectiveness of the grenade, but its' smooth surface. It slipped from your hand too easily when training a nervous serviceman who never threw a live grenade before. You get past that once you've thrown enough of them.
In grenade training you NEVER go down until you see where it has landed in case of a misfire. I was running a range once and we had one, it was a lonely walk checking the area lol.
@@WeAreTheUnhappyMajority That was in the days of the Mills 36, a seriously nasty piece of kit, the base plug always seemed to come back at you!
Ok, this device has an injury range of 30 meters. That's about how far most folks can pretty much toss one. The fuzes are made by the lowest bidder. Once again the targets are well within 30 meters.
As far away as one throws it, the grenade actually shakes the ground a bit. We don't watch it, throw and get down. Almost as one action.
@@douglasfrompa593 So if you have a misfire how do you know where it landed if you don't watch it? active service is obviously different.
I was watching a recollection of an ex-ROK soldier who recalled an event at a live fire range.
They were shooting live grenades from grenade launchers. One failed to explode. The range NCO (?) had to walk down the range to look/detonate it. He was delayed a few minutes for some reason.
As he eventually started walking towards the unexposed launched grenade, it exploded by itself. He was spared by a few minutes.
@@dabda8510 It focuses the mind that's for sure lol.
all you have to really understand is this...
When the Pin is pulled Mr. Grenade is not your friend.
Pulling the pin doesn't arm it though. It's your friend so long as you're holding the grenade properly so that the spoon isn't released. You can even put the pin back in and keep your friend for a while longer.
Pulling the pin does nothing unless you also pull the safety thumb clip in addition to the circular pin. You also need to undo the electrical tape you wrapped around the spoon and pin as an additional safety. Then in addition to all that… the grenade still will not detonate until the safety lever is allowed to swing freely releasing the striker to hit the primer on the delay detonator.
@Zachary Michaelis You see, that is exactly what we DON'T need to do.
@Zachary Michaelis Maybe how to draw a little smiling face with eyes and pull off the safeties and put it in a cardboard box for the parents to burn in their fireplaces… that would work nicely.
"THROW THE GRENADE NOT THE PIN"
In 30 years, a reenactment group is going to be really grateful for this channel's attention to detail.
One error in the narrative: the spring clip that you see about 1/2 inch from the top of the grenade does NOT prevent the pin from being pulled. It is entirely possible to pull the pin and throw the grenade without removing this 'safety' clip. If that happens and the clip is not dislodged when the grenade hits the ground, the grenade won't go off.
A fun fact about the M67 is that it was weighted and sized to be as close to a baseball as possible.
That is a problem. A soldier is going to want to throw it like a baseball. It is more round compared to earlier grenades. It is more likely to bounce with a vigorous throw. The 'old' Commonwealth/British techniques of lobbing grenades while lying prone etc? They were taught for a good reason. Of course our training plan said to throw it like a baseball.
@@martkbanjoboy8853 Our training over the last 30 years (at least) has explicitly dealt with your objection. The "lobbing" type of throw has consistently been taught in order to mitigate the possibility of the grenade bouncing back.
Perhaps you could verify your information before posting? (I'm currently a Field Grade officer and will be retiring soon. MY information is from actually going through the training.)
@@murphywd1971 is it for that? We were told it was just easier to send them further that way, and was easier to make it land where you actually wanted, especially if we had wet or oily gloves or hands, I was never told about them bouncing back, I mean this things have like a 50 yard kill range out in the open, you'd have to have a mighty fine hand for it to bounce back such a distance.
Yeah blokes have thrown them with the saftey clips and pins pulled.
@@anarchyandempires5452 First off, the kill radius is 5m and the casualty producing radius is 15m.
You should look at chapter 3 in Army TC 3-23.30 It describes the throwing technique and explicitly warns to check for obstacles that may cause the grenade to bounce back. Soldiers are cautioned against a flat, baseball style throw.
I threw just one during my time in the Marines Corps. In Desert Storm we had a couple of incendenary grenades in our tank. They were for destroying the tank if we had to abandon it.
Remember once the pin is pulled Mr. Grenade is not your friend.
I remember the sergeant telling us that the M67 was designed to be the size, weight, and circumference of a baseball (hence the nickname "baseball" grenade) because every American boy knew how to through a baseball with accuracy and distance. Now all we need to do is start shipping baseballs to Ukraine.
Yet almost all of them throw like women. I could throw further 1kg iron balls when i was a kid.
Id love to see somebody try and fast or spin bowl a grenade like a cricket ball.
Now all you need to do is get your dirty hands out of Europe.
@@redpill7238 It's hilarious watching Europeans try to throw anything. lol
@@generalkayoss7347 Are you suggesting kickable soccer ball grenades for Europeans 😂
The M67 can send shrapnel farther than they teach us. I caught a sharp piece in my boot while training in the next range over from a grenade course once. Quite a bit outside that supposed 50m max radius
Get them some holy hand grenade of Antioch !
@@madisntit6547
…..three Sir…….
Was waiting for this comment. Not disappointed.
Unfortunately not many smoke grenades seem to be in use. Much of the front does not have med evac vehicles readily available, one recent (very sickening) POV video shows a Ukrainian losing his life while trying to retrieve a comrade, the lack of training and equipment demonstrated in the video was heart breaking.
Man lost his nerve. Poor guy.
Yeah I think I've seen the video your talking about it's very fucked up...
@@prfwrx2497 Please don't say that. He went back under fire to retrieve a wounded comrade. I don't want to see your ill advised comments about who "lost his nerve" or not.
Local defence volunteers may have had limited training and experience but that was 10 months ago. Someone going back for a wounded comrade is humanity at work. Not training or the lack of it. Despite what you see in movies grenades are kept safely in a pouch rather than hanging by their fly off lever so not seeing smoke grenades is not an indicator of them not being used. You can lob all the smoke you like in a contact. It doesn't stop the bullets.
Bullshit all it is Potassium Nitrate and Sugar
Thanks for another detailed and well documented video. I have to think these are useful and essential weapons given the number of trench clearing videos have been posted lately.
Given they have a unity cost of around $50 its not surprising that its easy to supply them at a real scale
"Remember boys and girls... once you pull the pin on Mr. Hand Grenade _he is no longer your friend_ ." - USMC Drill Instructor - Camp Pendleton 1978
In the recent videos uploaded by Civ Div (the ones with the BMP-2 being neutralized), as the guys are throwing a grenade into the top hatch of the vehicle one of the dudes asks "Was that an M67?"
I figure he recognized the blast.
I am old enough to have trained on the Mk2 and the Mk26 then later was issued M33s. They all worked equally well IME.
I wish I could find an empty/inert example with these modern markings, very cool!
That’s my keychain for many years right there. Also combat jacket zipper. 🙂
7:40 is some of the best footage I’ve seen of a fragmentation grenade in action. There’s nowhere to hide in a small room.
do you know where that video caame from? the thing he said isnt showing up..
Old retired Army Grunt and I fought in two wars in my 26 years on Active Duty as a Senior NCO. Like most fellow Infantry NCO’s, we carried as many grenades, extra ammo and smoke grenades as possible and the M-67’s worked great as they had a good amount of explosive to do more damage than common soviet type grenades we faced. Grenades work great inside concrete buildings as the shock wave stuns those it doesn’t kill which is why we enter the room as quickly as safely possible to take advantage of the time while the enemy is stunned. There’s a lot of field expedient AP mines a soldier can make with hand grenades as a booby trap type device.
Infantry basic Ft Benning Georgia 1995 we had finished the live grenade range for the first time and we assembled in formation. We were standing around and a sliver of hot metal went down my bdu blouse at the neck. The crazy thing was we had been done throwing for some time. Only thing I can figure it was summer and really hot and the tiny piece went up in a updraft and then came down.
Just bought one, can't wait to use
I wanted to see the result of that G vs Ayyylmaos test, but it looks like Big Caliber Trouble has been disappeared. The only external search results that reference it are this video. Now I may never know its suitability for anti-incursion defense.
It may interest you to know that, based on the list of locations of the Day & Zimmermann corporation as per their website, all M67 grenades, whether produced under either US or Canadian contract, are made in USA. There is no Canadian production facility.
The images in your video make me wonder if the green body color of the grenades is a different shade for the Canadian contract grenades, as compared to US contract grenades.
Quite possibly, though yiu never know about lighting in imagery.
@@TheArmourersBench That's why I'm only wondering.
Greetings from Ukraine
Love your work.
5:45
When you're throwing a grenade NEVER stop to watch where it falls, it's too late, it's going where you threw it regardless, you immediately take cover.
Exactly, a slightly short fuse and you've got shrapnel in your brain.
Canadian grenade is the C13. Canadian variant of the M67.
The humble hand grenade is one of those things that doesn't grab headlines, but is just as essential to a soldier as a rifle and bullets. Good to see US + NATO is keeping them well stocked.
Whatever Sheepleton 🤡
How many boosters are you on?
'M67s.... I love M67s'
What am I supposed to use, harsh language?
Canada is now using C3 grenades as far as I know, we were having issues with the M67 fuses.
VIDEO, INTERESTING, INFORMATIVE ,THIS HAS BEEN, 1 EACH
While the grenades we use in Canada are M67 variants, we designate them as the C13 or C13A1 fragmentation grenade. Neat to see our contribution to the Ukrainians in action.
He shows that designation on screen near the end.
@@skepticalbadger i saw that after I posted the comment.
Honestly they donated -10k. They don’t have a lot of them lying around in the first place so they had to keep stock for themselves because, well they’re a budget army, but also, it’s better to have fresher explosives 🤠
@@marcusaetius9309 We're dumping our old crap to ukraine to make room for fresher kit. Also helping ukraine now is better than fighting the russians later on due to not doing anything. Our training of the Ukrainians since 2015 has really paid off. If you can't tell its only a matter of time before a major conflict starts between NATO and the Sino-russo alliance, idk what to tell you.
@@marcusaetius9309 ahh yes "russia has never been our enemy". I hope the rubles are worth it.
Interesting Video.
5:35 training flaw.
If the instructed person does not duck for cover the instructor does not order - he pulls the person into seafety.
Saying "go down" after the granade is armed and thrown is wayyyyy to late, is a serious error.
Luckly the soldier did duck.
The M67's weight is an eye opener at 14 oz. The older lemon grenades weighed 16 oz and the older still pineapples the Army was phasing out in the early 1960s weighed a hefty 21 oz. I have no experience with so-called offensive grenades.
A kid blew himself up at the range just after i had finished my throw. ducked as he threw and bounced off the wall Infront of him. he and the instructor survived but that was the end of service for them both.
I recall seeing photos of army of the Republic of South Vietnam (arvn) soldier in the early 70s with a M1, M33 and m67 grenade on his belt and will be interesting to see if the ukrainian soldiers do the same but with Eastern and NATO grenades.
That's wild. The mishmash of gear in the vietnam war was crazy.
The M33 is the same as the M67, except the M67 has the safety clip.
The USA supported the South Vietnamese and before that the French fighting against the Communist insurgents all the way back to the end of WW2.
It's generally a really bad idea hanging grenades from your belt by the fly off lever. Just don't do it.
@@zoiders People watch too many movies, where every actor has a hand grenade hanging from their belts or pockets. No matter how much training people get... some will always want to act like movie actors. I heard some US Troops ended up killing themselves due to this, and that is why the safety clip was added to the M67.
A Grenade is supposed to be in a tight fitting pouch or shipping container. Also unlike movies, only some troops are supposed to have grenades.
@@willw8011 exactly that's why a Grenadier is a thing
Practical tool for practical basement or seller clearance.
Canadian grenades are
C-13’s and the CA in the lot is from Canadian Arsenal (general dynamics)
I saw something about these grenades, they supposedly have a second hole for a pin, that acts as a hammer block. So you can pull the main pin, release the spoon, the rest the hammer and replace the main pin. Then the grenade can be used to set up a tripwire mine.
Use smoke grenade fuses swapped onto frags for booby traps. No time delay when it gets tripped.
NO! What you said was incorrect. Once the spoon is released, the fuse has started.
You just exchange the fuse for one with no delay. They are manufactured specifically for that. Once that striking lever goes the fuse is lit.
@@chrisbrent7487 the striker, has to physically hit a primer, like on a cartridge. There is a second pin hole, which supposedly can be used as a hammer stop. Because you're not always going on patrol with a zero delay fuze.
@@wes11bravo Smoke grenade fuses only have about one gram of a burning compound designed for lighting smoke grenades or less lethal grenades. Having a blasting cap inside a smoke grenade would just blow it apart and the guy using it would lose some fingers or a hand. They manufacture specific fuses with no delay for detonating grenades. Usually they are marked on the striking lever to make it clear that they are no delay fuses. Smoke grenades like the M18 use the M201A1 fuse. It wont detonate a frag. The M67 uses the M213 fuse which has a full sized blasting cap on it so it will detonate the comp B filler of the grenade.
I took a short course on these and threw a live one when I was in the Canadian Navy, oddly enough.
I got hit in the nuts with a defused WWII pineapple one time. That's as close as I want to get. Closer, in fact.
I was thinking this would be a good way to use up old stock …. Then I saw the crate with a lot from 2021. Very new.
im looking for the Big calibre trouble video but i cant find it.. care to link video???
I think hand grenades and mines are the most often overlooked weapons in this conflict
Hehe, mines are overlooked he said.
Pun aside, no, everyone talks about mines a lot.
If they don't, they are stupid or not involved at all.
@@aenorist2431 Mines are a real mixed bag since they don't disappear when no one has set them off 5 years later.
6:08 mans got an aimpoint, I wish every Ukrainian soldier had one of them
thank you from Ukraine for all your American support
screw you. from Canada.
You better touch up on tour Russian.....
Thank you Ukraine for showing that there are people still willing to stand and fight for freedom, from America.
@@tomme3913 Un Albertain ?
@@Zacharoni4085 Quebecois
"Pocket Mortar"
Just reminded me to finish my task with prapor need 9 more M67's lol
The Germans really have it down when it comes to the unboxing experience for grenades, and the packaging size.
Dumb question but if you were to duct tape more bbs around the grenade the shrapnel would be better ? They really don’t look like they have much shrapnel
The entire body of the grenade becomes small splinters but I suppose you could augment.
Technically speaking, anything added to a grenade to increase lethality is a war-crime.
Treaties between Nations stipulate what weapons/bombs/ammo can be used.
Anyone found 'gassing' their grenades could be in a lot of trouble.
Same thing holds for 'dum-dum' bullets or improvised hollow-points made by turning the bullet backwards in its case.
Don't make sense, but neither does War.
“…that is one Unpleasant device…”
In my youth I was asked if I wanted to buy granades. I said no
I killed a man with an M67 fragmentation grenade when he was pinned down and trapped in a rubbled building. I was awarded a Navy and Marine Corps Achevement Medal with Combat Distinguishing Device (NAM). I can attest that the grenade is an essential part of an infantryman’s load out. I used to carry 4 on me as part of my standard combat load. In combat there were multiple occasions when I used all four fragmentation grenades but very rarely would I use all 7 rifle magazines.
Good shit bro! I carried 9 mags, 4 grenades, and an AT4. I rarely used the grenades. I carried the AT-4 but my Team leader wanted to shoot it in a building lol My squad leader was tossing grenades in a ditch infront of us and he took all of mine lol then he got a NAM for it lol
@@kli2887 I was in a LAR BN so we didn’t often carry AT4’s. Dismounted operations you might pull them off the vehicles and carry them. I was originally trained as an 0352 (TOW Gunner). Backblast is no joke. It’ll kill ya. I not only trained on the SMAW and TOW systems but also the LAW. A civilian employee came and we spent a block of time learning the old Vietnam era LAW system. My third deployment to Iraq the Marine Corps was issuing us LAW’s. Same deal we hardly ever “humped” them though. The LAW is tiny and relatively light and perfect for taking out a technical. The entire LAW round and tube weighs less than a single SMAW rocket for instance not including the huge and heavy launcher.
@@kli2887 The lesson: Become a Squad Leader. You also won’t have to burn shit. Like in so many other conflicts in history… if you’re burning s hit… you know you’re on the low end of the totem pole. I’ve been the man pouring JP8 into a 55 gallon “sh it bucket” and I’ve also been the senior NCO in a firefight that earlier resulted in the death of multiple Marines (my friends and brothers) and decided to be the one to throw the fragmentation grenade (because if anyone is at risk of dying from what needs to be done it ought to be the senior man). A Sgt. isn’t a general. He’s a leader but he’s also a fighter. Fighter/Leader is how my Platoon commander described it in my award citation. Semper Fi 😂🤣👍🏻
@@jastrapper190 lol true. I did get a Combat Cert for taking the initiative in providing cover/suppressive fire, luring the snipers and pointing out where the snipers were, etc. Which was kind of odd, cause half of that i got yelled at not to do. lmao I was an 0311 and I would see LAR go out zero-dark thirty or late nights and I was like... gangster. We did a night patrol in the city with Nods. We watched people just hanging out or eating outside. They never knew we were there. This was Najaf 2004.
@@kli2887 I was in the country at that time. When I was with Alpha Company 1st LAR we did quite a few raids at zero dark thirty in the city of Ar Rutbah and surrounding areas (2004 and 2005). My BN was also involved in toppling Baghdad and then immediately driving up North to Tikrit in 2003 (Sadams Hometown) where there were still active duty Republican Guard units fighting. What’s a “Combat Cert”? You mean a Combat Action Ribbon? We’re you Army or Marine?
I’m honestly surprised that we didn’t get a video on M67 grenades showing up in Ukraine earlier given how many much footage there has already been of these nades to begin with after nearly a year into this war
I cant find the channels you have mentioned (boy from the Forest and the otherone dont show up on youtube or google for me)
They're both linked in the accompanying at www.armourersbench.com check it out. Every video has an accompanying article with the sources. Thanks for watching.
I remember getting a bad batch of these during osut, our range was put on hold for one that did not detonate. Waited hours for eod to show up to blow it. We restarted, just to have another failure. Drill said “fuck it” and just made us run all the way back to the barracks. Fuck you, grenade.
Safe & Sane firework?
I prefer the Hollywood grenade.
It lands in a river and still wipes out an entire VC encampment.
7:43 reminds me of a certain video from this conflict...
I believe you mean the C13
bit different from my Australian grenade training in early 70s .had to stand and watch where grenade landed then duck. harder to than you'd think.
It sounds stupid, but how else would you adjust your throwing technique or aim point?
Glad to see our gifts of the battlefield. Stay strong 💪 🇺🇦 Ukraine, victory will come in 2023.
on est en 2024 et on attend toujours su per cotre offensive au passage avec tout l'aide des états unis et de l'Europe enfin de nos impôts 😂
House clearing in Afghan, tape a smoke grenade (red) to a frag, pull pin on frag, throw into building....frag blows and ruptures the smoke....bang and a burn....
Such nice packaging. Just like an iphone.
We used the M26 never got to chuck a m67
Cuántas granadas lleva cada soldado? Todos llevan?
Depends on the operations they're engaged in. Some of the guys I spoke to said average was 2-3.
Thank you for the video.
I’ve been wondering about their supply of grenades as I saw a few videos a couple months back where one soldier turns to another and asks “Do you have any more grenades?”, and they did not.
Not a good situation.
That and with the rise of drones I imagine that a plethora of cheap reliable area weapons is in great demand.
folk 'em
Where are they made?
Which ones? US or Canadian? M67 grenades have final assembly at the Day and Zimmerman Lone Star facility near Texarkana, Texas.
1:53 what rifles did America sent?
M4’s and M16’s.
Wow 😳
Sleeping on the grenade range waiting for EOD to show up and take care of one of the what turned out to be like six duds that day. It was a long one.
I can't find the Ukrainian or Russian grenade demo videos you included. Was anyone else able to?
They're linked in the accompanying article for the video, check out the pinned tweet. Thanks for watching.
@@TheArmourersBench ah, right on. Thanks
"m67s mmmm i love m67s"
my DS always said that's the most fun you can have for 9$ 🤣🤣... they probably cost more now, lol
Thumb clip
Pull pin!
Throw!!
Sometimes you gotta move it out of the confidence wedge too
The Canadian grenades are stamped CA. The COMP B ones are American.
Yep, yet to see a CA marked one but they're apparently out there.
Good we are supplying the Ukrainians with these weapons so they can defend themselves from the orc invaders and to hopefully push them completely out of Ukraine territory. We should be sending them the older lots since they are burning through them at a fast pace, and we need to restock our stocks with new lots since we too will need them before long.
Imo 🍍 grenades had better fragmentation more deadly but I'm sure was more expensive and couldn't be thrown as far
The fact they are spherical was said because it saved money time in training because the thinking was every American has played or thrown a baseball, but the explosive powder in it is a lot stornger then the pineapple grenade so the frags probobly due fly farther just in smaller chunks
Who knows I'm no scientist tho
Composition B. Yeah.
Cool channel 👍
Cheers 😎
Thanks for watching, don't forget to check out some earlier vids!
yeah they don't go off all the time
7:53 please can anyone send me the link of *the boys from the forest* Ukranian channel
Linked in the accompanying article which is in the pinned comment at the top. Thanks for watching
Why case so slippery
Im hope in the next time the Leoparts in the Ukraine. 🇺🇦💪
Good. The M67 is much more powerful and deadly than the Russian counterparts. I've thrown quite a few of both NATO and Warsaw pact grenades in test ranges, and there is no doubt the M67 is deadlier.
Shipped with fuse already in???? Very un-British. Our L2s had to have the fuse screwed in first.
Only see one photo of a UK grenade in Ukraine so far.
I was just thinking the same thing
I can remember taking that walk away from the rest of the company to prime my L2 grenades with the range officer. They got shut of the L2s in the early noughties and now use the L109A1. Reference the fuses - I think they ship with them in now since the land mine ban. They changed the design of the smoke grenade as well to stop the fuses being swapped.
@@zoiders I don't believe the US signed the landmine ban. Maybe it would make a difference to some countries they may travel through, though.
wheres all the MLB players teaching these soldiers how to throw?
Nice to see that we are protecting the environment with bio degradable packaging for the deadly war materiel these days. What is interesting is the AK74su with the Aimpont on a side mount. Some of the irregulars must be ordering this kit online or crowd funding it.
So much FAB Defense and other companies accessories stuff floating around.
And you are not allowed to use lead bullets. 🙄
@@jamesmcardle1494 The AK74 doesn't fire lead bullets. The 74 round has a cavity in its jacket behind the tip of the projectile and a steel core penetrator behind it. This causes the bullet to tumble in flesh or poke a hole in soft body armour it encounters. Hope this helps.
Hope hundreds of thousands are sent, how many can be sent?
Canada makes m67's?
The French grenade looks so... French... pomme de morte
Hand grenades are so fricking cool
Canada has grenades?
Is is possible to sabotage the russian production of conventional military grade explosives like TNT etc?
No. The materials for making basic explosives is so basic that you can make them at home.
@@baneofbanes Basic explosives as in TNT? (sorry, i`m a noob when it comes to DIY explosives)
For reference: the Canadian M67 is called the C13
He shows that designation on screen near the end.
@@skepticalbadger Ah balls. Cheers mate.
remember kids, don't just 'listen' to the video xD
US grenades are about the size of a baseball.
Coincidence?
That’s my boy Valgear hell yea
Don''t bring a grenade to an artillery fight.
What is that piece of metal around the pull pin? I served as an infantryman in the USMC and have killed people with the M67. I know the grenade and I’ve never seen a fragmentation grenade with that piece of metal… in training (we would throw 1-3 real live grenades per year in training on average) or from the huge lots (mountains) of frags we were issued in combat.
I belive it was a safety added to it to keep the pin from being inadvertently pulled.
@@mrbillybob444 interesting. That’s new. Never seen that before. I can see why. Carrying one of those little bombs for months at a time gets scary. Low crawling and shimming over walls and such the grenades get beat up. I had everyone under me put electrical tape on their fragmentation grenades so even if the thumb clip and pin are inadvertently pulled and the spoon is free the grenade still won’t detonate. We once through a live fragmentation grenade to a man pin downed in rubble because of that tape. I’d still tape up my grenades. It’s like strapping instant death on your body. At least with a stick of C4 you can shoot it and it won’t detonate (the cap isn’t already inserted like a frag).
@@jastrapper190 Those are not new. They have been on the baseball grenade and possible the M61 grenade since Vietnam.
Someone tried to frag a barracks Sargent with the baseball grenade (either M33 or M65) but only pulled the pin before tossing it up on the ceiling of the barracks Sargent's room. When we found it, the grenade had that safety wire holding the spoon on the grenade! This was July of 1971.
@@RetiredRadioChaser I don’t think that is what I’m referring to. Let me explain. When you dump the M67 fragmentation grenade out of that cardboard tube. It will container three “safeties” the first is the most well known (the pull pin and circular ring). This is the first restraint that keeps the “spoon” from rotating. The second is the “Thumb Clip” which also must be flicked off and some might describe as “wire”. After you remove the thumb clip and pull the grenade while holding it a death grip as taught to right or left handed throwers. Once you throw the spoon is free to rotate which allows a stricter to “snap” down onto a waterproof primer. Which initiates the delayed (or instantaneous detonation depending on fuse type) explosion which sets off the Composition B explosive shattering the spherical casing which looks like a golfball on the inside and breaks apart into similarly sized “dimple segments”. The grenade I saw on the video had an added bit of metal that I have never seen on an M67 fragmentation grenade. I used quite a few of them between 2002-2006.
@@RetiredRadioChaser If I might ask did you serve at that time? How did you come across the story. I had to order a building get rubbled. Because, in part, we threw one of the guys in the building a live grenade (thumb clip and pull pin were removed. We found them. Electrical tape was holding down the spoon). So I 100% believe what you are saying to be true. I later had to shoot some of the individuals with my LT’s pistol until it became sickening and we started using fragmentation grenades. It’s how I am in a unique position to actually have killed someone with an M67. I was awarded a NAM with Combat V for the efforts. And more was mentioned in the citation. I was told by a VA Service officer who has seen a lot of “lower awards” and he said citations never include those types of details but mine sure does. Lol. It uses words like “actions directly contributed to the elimination of four enemy insurgents” and “ effectively engaged an enemy RPG team with the 25 mm Bushmaster Cannon” nut it gets the point across… 😂