Great video. Maybe you could have a follow on video to find out if the Ukrainians like the AR platform? Does the AR platform provide better accuracy and reliability? Maybe not?
Thank you. Yep they love it. They can mount optics easily, big plus for them. All the guys I've spoken to like it. Some still like AKs but like ARs for their modularity.
@@TheArmourersBench Yes modularity is much better, but what about reliability? In the USA a lot AR users fell that the DI system pressurized the receiver and keeps mud and dirt out of the action making the gun more reliable. Have the Ukrainian found this to be true in the trenchs.
Shut it man we dont even want to send these, These weapons are supposed to be protecting our country, same for our tanks, we're giving our last 17 away, and for what? We have enemies you know? Venezuala wants Curacao in the carribean, And besides, these weapons are only prolonging the war, causing more and more deaths, And more destruction than needed, if the west sent no weapons this would've all been over in just a few months, These weapons aren't winning it, thats another reason why we "The people" dont want to send these
Had a talk with some Danish Amrouers that were in town at Diemaco for course, they had stopped in at our shop to look at our guns. They had interesting insights on the C7 and Canadian produced Minimi vs others. Also bought some Vortex scopes because they were cheaper than back home.
Hey man. Kan je Ukraine on Fire van Oliver Stone kijken? Sinds die docu heb ik mij in meerdere oorlogen verdiept. Ben tot de conclusie gekomen dat het Amerika met het westen de echte terroristen zijn. Voor meer vragen reageer a.u.b!
I hope you are refering to WW2, cause that's the last time both countries were on a Freedom Team. Everything after that was American Imperialistic War/Regime Change Team, including this one.
You freed us once Canada, giving me 'my' freedom now. Something we will never forget, same goes for our American and English friends. And other countries involved.👍 So we know how the Ukrainians feel.
@@dukoo81 Lol "you are welcome" as if you did something. Buy hey be very proud that our corrupt government is sending weapons to prolong a war that can never be won and bringing the world on the verge of WW3.
Used the C7A1 during my time in the Dutch Marines back in early 2000. An excellent rifle. Maybe even the case that my old rifle is now in use Ukraine. Hope they put it to good use!
@@skylongskylong1982 the AR-15 platform is prohibited in Canada since a couple years ago. The SA-20 was the semi-only civilian model sold by Colt Canada, and there are still some out there, but it’s illegal to shoot now.
@@skylongskylong1982 We could buy civilian versions in Canada until the recent prohibition of AR15 platforms. They were not available in the US even before that Canadian ban because of their arcane system. So at the present time unfortunately they are not available to civilians.
Eh, the people we are helping shot down that plane, not the russians. Zelensky's nazis did it, but that was swept under the carpet by our dictator, the nazi-friend Rutte.
Indeed, i drove minutes in front of the returning caskets on the A2, by accident. With maaaany people in the grass paying respects. Something i will never forget. Glad we are helping them. 🇳🇱❤🇺🇦
Bro, stop it. First of all, mh17 was shot down from Ukraine, by Ukrainians. Sencond, the weapons used for that horrible incident where probably acquired the same way weapons are dissappearing today in Ukraine. Remember, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe.
The 20" barrel is perfect for the type of fighting they are doing. I have the FN M-16A4 clone 20" and a 20" M-16A2 clone. Two of my favorite rifles to use.
20" barrels are awesome! My latest build used a fluted BA 20" (weight very close to an A1 with a front sight block) with a light FF handguard. The handling is amazing, and it points great. I think of it as a modernized version of the fantastic A1. It should sling 77's with some gusto.
@@zoiders His head is craned laterally, not forward. He's most likely a new Ukrainian recruit training on a type of rifle he has never picked up in his life. Its perfectly fine, but its not perfectly shouldered.
A story i tell often these days, is when i drove home on the A2 highway in the Netherlands, i accidentally drove minutes in front of the column of caskets returning from Ukraine, containing the victims of the MH17 plane. There were people on the sidelines, on bridges and parking places, thousands. In my life i have NEVER seen us be so emotional and angry. The Netherlands WILL keep supporting Ukraine. With weapons, shelter for families, and whatever it takes. These thugs will be stopped. Slava Ukraine 🇳🇱❤🇺🇦
2:25 is track and trace chip according to our Hamil's (Dutch Military training guidebook). So incase you ran of with your weapon of the base and it isn't known or notified, military Police would be called to come and investigate the situation. Atleast this was told during my AMO (Landmacht basic training in 2018)
A high quality upload! And thanks 🇳🇱 for your enormous military support to Ukrain! €800 million in 2022 and 2.5 billion budgeted for 2023. An enormous contribution for such a small country.
@@kingchooet9966 Everyone is impacted by this, in case you haven't noticed, which seems very unlikely. Those few billion is peanuts in comparison. We should all send 10x that. Putler isn't going to stop, unless we stop him.
4:35 as an owner of a civilian clone of an m16a2, that image hurts my eyes Were they just packed barrels filled with sea water and dumped in the ocean for a sub to retrieve? Look at that lower! I've seen cars from the 90s in junkyards with original batteries that have less corrosion... I just hear that "in the arms of angels" songs and can see a scroll below the image with the text "for just $0.30 a month you can help keep these firearms from abuse and neglect"
Nobody really wants to sit in a bunker for 12 hours cleaning rifles. It's mostly just the reservists who get saddled with that, not the regulars. And even among the reservists it's about the least favourite thing to do, so anyone who's already making their minimum hours and doesn't need the money, typically skips cleaning duty. So you might have a cleaning day as a standalone activity, put it up for 12 guys, and only 7 guys enroll in it. To give you another task for comparison: Parachute jump training is typically over-volunteered past maximum by a factor of 3-5 and King's Day honour guard is typically over-volunteered by a factor of 5-10 (because, shiny blue parade uniforms and you get to see yourself on the telly later). EVEN boring guard duty for Geert Wilders (a racist politician with multiple convictions) for the umpteenth time someone says something nasty to him on Facebook and Wilders goes to hide in his bunker again, is more popular than cleaning. Because at least you're outside and if you're lucky the hippies hop the wrong fence looking for the detention for illegal migrants, and you get to chase hippies. Cleanup duty is the reason I quit, really. Well, that and us suddenly being saddled with some hitler-type sgt who was pulling rank on everything and just didn't get the message that we're not North Korea, we're a deeply unhierarchical laidback culture where people only ever salute officers if those are carrying something with both hands, and even within that it's the reserves where even more laidback people go. Myself I was 'recontracted' (meaning losing your rank without being formally demoted) to go from regular contract to reserve as there were simply no officer positions open let alone ones that I fit into, so having been trained to do better, I tried to give sgt Hitler some pointers on leadership style as he sounded a lot like the 'how not to lead' examples I heard at the academy. So I tried to advise sgt Hitler on his leadership style, which he instead viewed as insubordination, did even more yelling, but he lacked the balls to report me or have me charged (which given my file, good luck with that) over the difference in insights, so in the end I just quit and the 'cleaning crew' who needed the money enough that they signed up for cleaning was down by 4-5 guys in just 3 months of sgt Hitler being assigned. It did lead to the most hilarious exchange where my friend, who'd been recently selected for officer training, got jumped by sgt Hitler who then yelled at him "With that sort of attitude you won't last long here" only to be replied "You are correct, in two weeks I'm leaving to Breda to become LT". 😆 And it being impopular as a task, the lack of staff overall does the rest, really. Some quartermasters keep making a fuss until they get enough people to make the mandated maintainance, but some just shrug and accept that they're on the sh*t end of the shortages.
It’s the way it is, when weapons are obsolete, or whatever reason not used anymore, defense can decide to put them into a MOB for storage. They get a basic look over and put away to only get out at a national mobilization, or sold as surplus, or given away. When sold they don’t do a thing with it, when given away it depends on to whom and they will get a basic refreshment. With mobilization they get an overhaul, which in the end is cheaper then do maintenance over the years. A basic write of is accepted.
The Dutch have a historical track record of supplying guns to individuals fighting for freedom. A notable example of this is when the Dutch provided (in secret) firearms to the Americans during their fight for independence.
@@paulkruger5456 Well indonesia i doubt, but we did sell weapons to the spanish during the 80-years war (war of independence against Spain). Income from the sales went towards funding the armies... The most hilarious incident was the capture of the german town of Wesel, which functioned as a Spanish supply depot. We sold the spanish the dutch made weapons once more :)
Canada just announced a week ago that they are sending 21,000 newly manufactured C7/C8 rifles and light machine guns to Ukraine. Apparently, there is a serious shortage of light machine gun there ... lots of heavy machine guns. You'd almost think that someone should dust off their stocks of ancient Bren guns to fill the gap but the oddball.303 ammunition would cause more problems that they would solve, I guess.
@@gr6373 When I was in the Canadian Armed Forces (fifty years ago!) we used the Canadian manufactured versions of the 7.62 mm Belgian FN. The .303 was phased out around 1960. Since then 7.62 is used in machine guns, such as the door guns in helicopters, on naval vessels, etc.. The C7/C8 rifles and carbines fire the standard 5.56 x 45mm NATO round.
I was under the impression Canada had already sent a large shipment of C7 rifles to Ukraine last spring in 2022, and the CBC announced early April this year, that Canada was spending another 59 million dollars making new rifles and machine guns at Diemaco for Ukraine. Interesting bit of trivia. My father was a Weapons Technician in the CAF for 35 years (51-86). He spent years working on the Lee Enfield .303s, then the FN 7.62s, and was an instrumental part of the SARP (Small Arms Replacement Program) during the late 70s/early 80s) while they performed trials and tests to find the rifle to replace the FN, which ended up being the C7 5.56mm And in fact, they had offered my dad a posting to the job managing DIEMACO when it was first built, but he turned it down. I carried the FN for years in the early 80s, and then the C7 A1 in the early 2000s and last rifle qualification in 2019 was with the C8. Nice to see Canadian guns being used, they are top quality.
No, Canada hasn't sent an C7s, but they have sent C8s. I've covered that in earlier videos and the new shipment won't include C7s either - I've done a video on that too, it's available on our patreon page.
@@TheArmourersBench thanks I knew they had sent rifles.....just thought it was the older version rather than the newer version. I stated they are manufacturing new guns for Ukraine and I dont think Diemaco makes the C7A1 anymore...but I could be wrong....
My Colt AR15A4 is very similar. Flat top upper, and round clamshell handguards. Just need an Elcan. Sweet shooting rifles. Much better then shorty ARs.
Er waren wel meer nederlanders die tegen de russen vochten. Dat heetten toen nog landverraders maar nu zijn nazis goed en ben jij er trots op om ze te mogen helpen. Braaf EU-slaafje. Walg.
A family from the town i work (i´ Belgium) was sadly also on the plane, the ukrainians deserve all the weapons we could give just to punish the russians for the mh17 flight alone
Yeah lets give our whole military away! you are such an idiot. Mensen zoals jij verneuken ons land door overal maar in mee te gaan, je betaald zometeen 5 euro voor een paprika en dan alsnog zou je onze halve economie weg geven.
Check your Description it's Diemaco not Diemsco. Also, I used the Diemaco (now colt) C7 and C8. They are both GREAT. Very accurate, good to handle and I personally just love them! Glad to see the C7 back. Too bad it's in war time...
I was 1 who said that the firearms used in your prior video were probably Dutch sent Diemaco C7(A1). Glad you could confirm it ad that they are used by the Armed forces of Ukraine. Had 1 myself, as personal weapon, in the Dutch forces, early 2000's. Glad they have found another purpose. now live in Canada and would 've loved to buy and operate 1 again. Unfortunately... well that's another story. Please keep us informed.
No they haven't, I spoke to the Canadian Defence department and they provided a list of small arms sent (I have a video on it here on the channel), they have however sent C8s!
And we're very likely to send them F-16's too. It's a bit controversial here in the Netherlands, but I'm glad our "kisten" and personally, my babies, are going to directly support Ukraine. Slava Ukraini and much love from the Royal Netherlands Airforce!
I used 1 for years in the CAF and love the C7and C8 great weapons and home built, always kinda thought the likes of the danish army for example was a bit like a mini canadian version as they have bought alot of their equipment from canada, plus the dutch switching to the c7s
Received C7A1 with Elcan C79 optic just a few weeks ago after arriving to my unit from a boot camp. Trying to get familiar with it, as I went through a boot camp with AK74 and AKM. Yet, its advantages to the old AKs are obvious at first sight. My comrades call it a marksman's rifle due to its precision and accuracy. Thanks for pointing out at "QR-code" feature. Now I know that my rifle was donated by the Dutch, not Canada, as I initially thought😏 So, many thanks to the people of Dutch for your help and support🤝
I am Dutch. I was in the army for a long time. I’m proud that maybe my weapon is in Ukrainian hands. I can promise these weapons are well maintained. (Because I did a thousand times and improved my hard work another thousand times because the first time is never good enough😂)
As an Ex Armoured Infantry Officer of the Dutch Army,.. Those C7's bring back memories,.. I am 47 now and still a reservist untill 55,.. we will see when I get drafted,...
AKs are extremely reliable. the problem is that what is being issued is worn out and old equipment. Now add to the fact that the ammo they are getting is 20 to 30 years old. Now add no basic cleaning isn't being done.
Well thats untrue. AK74s are just seen as quite basic, reliable and mainly for self defence. No coincidence these modern 5.56 rifles are going to assault brigades and similar, they will want sights and other attachments.
Inrangetv did mud tests here on youtube. AK platform rifles are horrible in the mud, becoming essentially a single shot rifle. AR platform works perfectly in mud.
I have had training with the dienaco c7 the first time i shot a real 5.56 on the shooting range i was so nervous it felt like minita before i finaly took the first shot. Taken a shot with this gun felt really good
Loads on info available online, but basically heavier round, slower speed, so trajectory sucks balls long range. Short range it's great, especially with a suppressor, since the subsonic ammo still packs a punch because of it's weight vs subsonic 5.56mm (not that I would like to catch a subsonic 556...). The round seems not that great in this war seeing the combat range.
@@coenc0990 Ive read plenty from countless forums. Particularly for hunters. But there’s little to be had for in theater use. Minor notes about special ops in Ukraine but nothing about its performance
Thanks for this video. I have no clue about rifles, pistols and those 'minimigs'. I heard my government sent a shipment of weapons to Ukraine and I know that our forces use the C7/C8/HK416. But I don't actually know what these things look like. First time I actually saw an assault rifle, was from a guard detail at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, right after 9/11 I enjoyed this video and am happy my tiny country is able to help Ukraine in this horrible time.
On the website of the Dutch ministry of defense they keep track of everything delivered to Ukraine. They also provided equipment to build a bridge fast. Somehow I find that funny.
@@good2goskee The farmers that have been benefiting from favorful legislation which completely kept them unchecked for decades? and have to change their operation due to the climate crisis? Don't comment on this if you're not from here.Yes it might have been drastic but the farmers have been living in complete ignorance of this very obvious coming change, and now act surprised/violent.
@Maarten Nauta You are you a farmer? My family are. Do you know how expensive nitrogen producing fertilizers are? Are you challenging the most efficient farmers in the world (the Dutch), where it is in their financial best interest to use as little fertilizer as possible to achieve yeilds that will pay their bills and ensure Dutch food security ? However, for some reason, your government suggests their farm businesses are excessively producing N....REALLY? Do you actually think the Dutch farming practices, which are modeled and studied in other countries, are acting reckless and irresponsible? Do you understand China, the 2nd largest economy in the world, is given "developing nation" status, allowing them to pollute much more per cap than the Netherlands? Do you understand the Dutch farmer can be emasculated in the name of climate crisis, yet China and India could have a bad polluting month and completely nullify the sacrifices and decrease in Dutch standard of living ? ...please do not lecture me
Hello @TheArmourersBench! It will be awesome to see your insight into the next common shoulder launched AT weapon used in the Ukraine War besides AT4, SMAW, Javelin, NLAW : The RGW 90, commonly known as "MATADOR"
Huge fan of the A1 Vietnam version with full auto but yes these are definitely very well suited for urban combat and good out to 300 Yards with iron sights in single shot mode with 3 round burst if all still equal. Great for raw recruits, usually comes with a cleaning kit and since baptism of fire was Vietnam there are ways to weather proof beyond what is inclusive. As for the M249 SAW also breifly pictured here that is a Belgian Weapon so no problems getting feedback from that particular item and is your primary infantry assault weapon. Depending on the skill set of small unit tactics this is truly an awesome amount of *EFFECTIVE* firepower should an enemies effort be ineffective, weak or best yet non-existant. How effective these scopes are that's all new to me but in theory to an experienced user out to 500 rounds very much in play depending upon the quality of the ammo, environmental conditions etc. Great entry level service rifle. The best there is really even today as you can break the item down so easily to see how it all functions and insodoing makes parts, modify, duct tape etc. and learn from this the superiority against those who are far too trigger happy versus those who take aim and wait. Nothing wrong with the M-14 or even the M1 Garand in point of fact I'm just not knowledgeable in those systems other than the USA has millions of them...more than enough to equip all of Europe against an enemy such as Russia or should be seen as needed peacekeeping operations in East Africa.
Soldiers do the stupidest shit with their rifles so military issue small arms have to be designed with that in mind. One of the reasons the US moved away from four prong flash hiders in Vietnam was that some soldiers used the barrel pry open crates and the Israeli Galil had a bottle opener added to the rifle because soldiers would try to open bottles with their rifles. Hell one of the traditions here in Finland is throwing RK-pattern rifles into pines and trying to get them to stick to the bark from the charging handle.
*Say what you will about the 5.56 bullet - It's moving at 3300 FPS and can do lots of damage for a small 77 Grain projectile while only having 6CM of drop over 800 Meters. It's like shooting a LASER BEAM!!*
I actually saw that exact rifle with optic used,in burst mode,it was used during the first few weeks of invasion by an American black man,shooting into Russian trenches where a Russian guy is seen running from trench to another but gets hit by said army guy,can't recall name of video it was a CNN video
It's coming don't worry. And the MSBS. I just need more time in a week to get to them, or afford to spend more time on making videos. I've a dozen I could do right now. Thanks for watching.
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Thanks for watching everyone, here's the accompanying article - armourersbench.com/2023/04/30/inside-the-dutch-effort-to-send-rifles-to-ukraine/
Great video. Maybe you could have a follow on video to find out if the Ukrainians like the AR platform? Does the AR platform provide better accuracy and reliability? Maybe not?
Thank you. Yep they love it. They can mount optics easily, big plus for them. All the guys I've spoken to like it. Some still like AKs but like ARs for their modularity.
@@TheArmourersBench Yes modularity is much better, but what about reliability? In the USA a lot AR users fell that the DI system pressurized the receiver and keeps mud and dirt out of the action making the gun more reliable. Have the Ukrainian found this to be true in the trenchs.
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The Netherlands has been punching way above their weight in terms of military aid, proud of our free brothers
Of course they will, the Europeans dont really wanna fight wars, they're grew soft in the recent years
@@MrNz96 CAN YOU NAME A SINGLE PERSON WHO REALLY WANTS TO FIGHT AND DIE IN A WAR?
@@fuckoff4705There are literally hundreds of thousands of those people out there.
@@MrNz96 yet another underestimation.
@@pjhgerlach You look like Joe Gatto
I'm really proud of our dutch neighbors for the generous support they are giving to aid Ukraine. You guys are awesome.
Love from Germany
For me hearing that as a Dutch person from a German is quite 'awesome' as well. 🙂
Allemaal sheise. Beter vredesonderhandelingen.
Shut it man we dont even want to send these, These weapons are supposed to be protecting our country, same for our tanks, we're giving our last 17 away, and for what? We have enemies you know? Venezuala wants Curacao in the carribean, And besides, these weapons are only prolonging the war, causing more and more deaths, And more destruction than needed, if the west sent no weapons this would've all been over in just a few months, These weapons aren't winning it, thats another reason why we "The people" dont want to send these
zelensky and putin are both yiddish .
This war is a revenge on christianity
Had a talk with some Danish Amrouers that were in town at Diemaco for course, they had stopped in at our shop to look at our guns. They had interesting insights on the C7 and Canadian produced Minimi vs others.
Also bought some Vortex scopes because they were cheaper than back home.
Oh interesting!
Yeah, it makes sense that they'd have good insight into the C7 since it has also actively been used by the Danish Military for decades.
I've been carrying this rifle for years while being in the Dutch army. I'm proud and glad to see that they are put to good use. God speed Ukrainians!
I think its weird since they are not a nato country and we are fueling a proxy war vs china.
Same here. Easy to handle and very reliable.
Hey man. Kan je Ukraine on Fire van Oliver Stone kijken? Sinds die docu heb ik mij in meerdere oorlogen verdiept. Ben tot de conclusie gekomen dat het Amerika met het westen de echte terroristen zijn. Voor meer vragen reageer a.u.b!
@@truediusbladius7149 would you rather that Ukraine be conquered by Russia?
@@kaas137 sure thing Vatnik
Thank you to Netherlands 🇳🇱 from Canada 🍁
Once again on the Freedom Team ♥
Thanks for liberating us way back💪🤝
I hope you are refering to WW2, cause that's the last time both countries were on a Freedom Team. Everything after that was American Imperialistic War/Regime Change Team, including this one.
You freed us once Canada, giving me 'my' freedom now. Something we will never forget, same goes for our American and English friends. And other countries involved.👍 So we know how the Ukrainians feel.
Your welcome, We will provide with more. 🏁
@@dukoo81 Lol "you are welcome" as if you did something. Buy hey be very proud that our corrupt government is sending weapons to prolong a war that can never be won and bringing the world on the verge of WW3.
Quality equipment 🇳🇱 🇨🇦
Like a flood of memories... I was a land weapons tech in the Canadian Army for 7 years
Used the C7A1 during my time in the Dutch Marines back in early 2000. An excellent rifle. Maybe even the case that my old rifle is now in use Ukraine. Hope they put it to good use!
I was thinking the same thing. Could be my old c7a1 is now in Ukraine.
I live about 20 minutes from Diemaco. C7/C8 are excellent weapons. Larry Vickers was partial to them. They should serve the Ukrainians well.
Any idea if they produce a civilian version ( semi auto only) ?
@@skylongskylong1982 the AR-15 platform is prohibited in Canada since a couple years ago. The SA-20 was the semi-only civilian model sold by Colt Canada, and there are still some out there, but it’s illegal to shoot now.
@@skylongskylong1982 We could buy civilian versions in Canada until the recent prohibition of AR15 platforms. They were not available in the US even before that Canadian ban because of their arcane system. So at the present time unfortunately they are not available to civilians.
Mining Colony and Overseas Real Estate Park called Canada is tumbling down rather quickly
@@skylongskylong1982 BCM does. I have a C8A3.
The Netherlands will never forget MH17. Hope these weapons will get those who pushed the button
Eh, the people we are helping shot down that plane, not the russians. Zelensky's nazis did it, but that was swept under the carpet by our dictator, the nazi-friend Rutte.
Agree! We should give all we can.
@@gustavthemagician no all evidence points to the Russians being the pens who shot down the plane vatnik.
Indeed, i drove minutes in front of the returning caskets on the A2, by accident. With maaaany people in the grass paying respects. Something i will never forget. Glad we are helping them. 🇳🇱❤🇺🇦
Bro, stop it.
First of all, mh17 was shot down from Ukraine, by Ukrainians.
Sencond, the weapons used for that horrible incident where probably acquired the same way weapons are dissappearing today in Ukraine.
Remember, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe.
The 20" barrel is perfect for the type of fighting they are doing. I have the FN M-16A4 clone 20" and a 20" M-16A2 clone. Two of my favorite rifles to use.
I have the Colt, Stag and Windham Weaponry clones. Enjoy them very much. Use SIG Bravo3.
The 20" barrel gives the best balance in my hands. Short barrels have there place like if you're climbing in and out of armor vehicles all day.
20" barrels are awesome!
My latest build used a fluted BA 20" (weight very close to an A1 with a front sight block) with a light FF handguard.
The handling is amazing, and it points great. I think of it as a modernized version of the fantastic A1. It should sling 77's with some gusto.
The thumbnail of the soldier craning his head to see through the elcan scope because his stock is low on his arm is hurting my neck just looking at it
No that's a combination of his helmet and the fairly short eye relief. He has his rifle perfectly well shouldered.
@@zoiders His head is craned laterally, not forward. He's most likely a new Ukrainian recruit training on a type of rifle he has never picked up in his life. Its perfectly fine, but its not perfectly shouldered.
Spotted these in several videos of Ukrainian troops, among with a lot of other Dutch provided equipment!
A story i tell often these days, is when i drove home on the A2 highway in the Netherlands, i accidentally drove minutes in front of the column of caskets returning from Ukraine, containing the victims of the MH17 plane. There were people on the sidelines, on bridges and parking places, thousands. In my life i have NEVER seen us be so emotional and angry.
The Netherlands WILL keep supporting Ukraine. With weapons, shelter for families, and whatever it takes. These thugs will be stopped.
Slava Ukraine 🇳🇱❤🇺🇦
2:25 is track and trace chip according to our Hamil's (Dutch Military training guidebook). So incase you ran of with your weapon of the base and it isn't known or notified, military Police would be called to come and investigate the situation. Atleast this was told during my AMO (Landmacht basic training in 2018)
A high quality upload! And thanks 🇳🇱 for your enormous military support to Ukrain! €800 million in 2022 and 2.5 billion budgeted for 2023. An enormous contribution for such a small country.
Thanks for watching.
You are welcome 🇳🇱❤🇺🇦
Happy to support a good case!!
Way too much if you ask me. 2.5 billion for something we don't have anything to do with and our military in pieces.
@@kingchooet9966 Everyone is impacted by this, in case you haven't noticed, which seems very unlikely. Those few billion is peanuts in comparison. We should all send 10x that.
Putler isn't going to stop, unless we stop him.
Great vid ! Good info ! Nice to see my old " tool " upgradet for a good cause. Thanx !!!!
Thank you, thanks for watchingm
Excellent video! Great info!
Thank you. Thanks for watching
Go Netherlands! From a neighbor.
We Dutch love flowers! and currently sunflowers are very high on our list.
4:35 as an owner of a civilian clone of an m16a2, that image hurts my eyes
Were they just packed barrels filled with sea water and dumped in the ocean for a sub to retrieve? Look at that lower! I've seen cars from the 90s in junkyards with original batteries that have less corrosion...
I just hear that "in the arms of angels" songs and can see a scroll below the image with the text "for just $0.30 a month you can help keep these firearms from abuse and neglect"
I haven't that much rust since an armory in the Iowa Natl Guard in the 1970s.
Nobody really wants to sit in a bunker for 12 hours cleaning rifles. It's mostly just the reservists who get saddled with that, not the regulars. And even among the reservists it's about the least favourite thing to do, so anyone who's already making their minimum hours and doesn't need the money, typically skips cleaning duty.
So you might have a cleaning day as a standalone activity, put it up for 12 guys, and only 7 guys enroll in it. To give you another task for comparison: Parachute jump training is typically over-volunteered past maximum by a factor of 3-5 and King's Day honour guard is typically over-volunteered by a factor of 5-10 (because, shiny blue parade uniforms and you get to see yourself on the telly later).
EVEN boring guard duty for Geert Wilders (a racist politician with multiple convictions) for the umpteenth time someone says something nasty to him on Facebook and Wilders goes to hide in his bunker again, is more popular than cleaning. Because at least you're outside and if you're lucky the hippies hop the wrong fence looking for the detention for illegal migrants, and you get to chase hippies.
Cleanup duty is the reason I quit, really. Well, that and us suddenly being saddled with some hitler-type sgt who was pulling rank on everything and just didn't get the message that we're not North Korea, we're a deeply unhierarchical laidback culture where people only ever salute officers if those are carrying something with both hands, and even within that it's the reserves where even more laidback people go.
Myself I was 'recontracted' (meaning losing your rank without being formally demoted) to go from regular contract to reserve as there were simply no officer positions open let alone ones that I fit into, so having been trained to do better, I tried to give sgt Hitler some pointers on leadership style as he sounded a lot like the 'how not to lead' examples I heard at the academy. So I tried to advise sgt Hitler on his leadership style, which he instead viewed as insubordination, did even more yelling, but he lacked the balls to report me or have me charged (which given my file, good luck with that) over the difference in insights, so in the end I just quit and the 'cleaning crew' who needed the money enough that they signed up for cleaning was down by 4-5 guys in just 3 months of sgt Hitler being assigned.
It did lead to the most hilarious exchange where my friend, who'd been recently selected for officer training, got jumped by sgt Hitler who then yelled at him "With that sort of attitude you won't last long here" only to be replied "You are correct, in two weeks I'm leaving to Breda to become LT". 😆
And it being impopular as a task, the lack of staff overall does the rest, really.
Some quartermasters keep making a fuss until they get enough people to make the mandated maintainance, but some just shrug and accept that they're on the sh*t end of the shortages.
It’s the way it is, when weapons are obsolete, or whatever reason not used anymore, defense can decide to put them into a MOB for storage. They get a basic look over and put away to only get out at a national mobilization, or sold as surplus, or given away. When sold they don’t do a thing with it, when given away it depends on to whom and they will get a basic refreshment. With mobilization they get an overhaul, which in the end is cheaper then do maintenance over the years. A basic write of is accepted.
The Dutch have a historical track record of supplying guns to individuals fighting for freedom. A notable example of this is when the Dutch provided (in secret) firearms to the Americans during their fight for independence.
Did they also supply arms to the Indonesians fighting to be free from the Dutch colonisers?
@@Gliese380 Wouldnt suprise me, if there is a profit to be made a dutch kapitalist will be there.
@@paulkruger5456 Well indonesia i doubt, but we did sell weapons to the spanish during the 80-years war (war of independence against Spain).
Income from the sales went towards funding the armies...
The most hilarious incident was the capture of the german town of Wesel, which functioned as a Spanish supply depot.
We sold the spanish the dutch made weapons once more :)
Freedom? 😂
Yes and don't rememeber supplying weapons and trucks to jihadists in Syria. Another great move.
Canada just announced a week ago that they are sending 21,000 newly manufactured C7/C8 rifles and light machine guns to Ukraine. Apparently, there is a serious shortage of light machine gun there ... lots of heavy machine guns. You'd almost think that someone should dust off their stocks of ancient Bren guns to fill the gap but the oddball.303 ammunition would cause more problems that they would solve, I guess.
L4s use 7.62, idk what Canada has used though
As they try to disarm the civilian population.
@@gr6373 When I was in the Canadian Armed Forces (fifty years ago!) we used the Canadian manufactured versions of the 7.62 mm Belgian FN. The .303 was phased out around 1960.
Since then 7.62 is used in machine guns, such as the door guns in helicopters, on naval vessels, etc.. The C7/C8 rifles and carbines fire the standard 5.56 x 45mm NATO round.
@@gr6373 Canada never adopted the 7.62 BREN conversion, we had our own SAW version of the FAL, called the C2
I spoke to them about, perhaps I should do a video on them too. Thanks for watching.
These M16/M4 variants have an excellent reputation
Thanks
1:52
The C7A1 actually used Weaver rail that's stepped slightly higher than Picatinny.
Unless the Dutch got picatinny profiled uppers.
Good old times, I almost forgot about weaver rails.
Good point, that might he a small error on my part.
@@TheArmourersBench the other note with this is that Diemacos also had taller iron sights; "F marked front sight" refers to the taller FSP.
for the most part weaver and pic rail and functionally interchangeable.
I love the C7AI! Spent a lot of time with it in the CF Infantry reserves. The Elcan scope is really nice!
lol
Great video
Thank you, thanks for watching.
I was under the impression Canada had already sent a large shipment of C7 rifles to Ukraine last spring in 2022, and the CBC announced early April this year, that Canada was spending another 59 million dollars making new rifles and machine guns at Diemaco for Ukraine. Interesting bit of trivia. My father was a Weapons Technician in the CAF for 35 years (51-86). He spent years working on the Lee Enfield .303s, then the FN 7.62s, and was an instrumental part of the SARP (Small Arms Replacement Program) during the late 70s/early 80s) while they performed trials and tests to find the rifle to replace the FN, which ended up being the C7 5.56mm And in fact, they had offered my dad a posting to the job managing DIEMACO when it was first built, but he turned it down. I carried the FN for years in the early 80s, and then the C7 A1 in the early 2000s and last rifle qualification in 2019 was with the C8. Nice to see Canadian guns being used, they are top quality.
No, Canada hasn't sent an C7s, but they have sent C8s. I've covered that in earlier videos and the new shipment won't include C7s either - I've done a video on that too, it's available on our patreon page.
@@TheArmourersBench thanks I knew they had sent rifles.....just thought it was the older version rather than the newer version. I stated they are manufacturing new guns for Ukraine and I dont think Diemaco makes the C7A1 anymore...but I could be wrong....
Great and clear explanation. I'll check out your channel 👍🏼
Thank you!
Nice to see a Canadian rifle make a good account of itself in Ukraine. I hope it's not just the Dutch sending them. ;-)
Check out my earlier video on Canadian aid sent for more detail on that. Thanks for watching
My Colt AR15A4 is very similar. Flat top upper, and round clamshell handguards. Just need an Elcan. Sweet shooting rifles. Much better then shorty ARs.
Very good and informative video! :D
Thank you, thanks for watching.
@@TheArmourersBench Enjoyed it as always!
Excellent video.
Thanks John, thanks for watching!
The m16 is the most customizable rifle available i am sure many were switched to piston. Adams arms donated some rifles as well
As a dutchie working in the MoD it makes me proud to see them used!
Wholesome chungus merchant of death moment huh
Er waren wel meer nederlanders die tegen de russen vochten. Dat heetten toen nog landverraders maar nu zijn nazis goed en ben jij er trots op om ze te mogen helpen. Braaf EU-slaafje. Walg.
As a dutchie working in the MoD this makes me sad. Taxpayers money and military equipment we could use ourselves being thrown away.
@@kingchooet9966 iff we need to use this, it is already to late to use it
@@VuurBarbaar With that mentality we can just throw away the whole MOD. Clever.
The NL likes to support, all the people look a lot like us! Glory Ukraine 😄✌🇺🇦 peace!🇳🇱
That really racist
very intresting video!
the dutch still have an apple to pick with the russians for shooting down mh17 (a civilian transport plane)a few years ago
We wont forget. They tried to blame ukraine for that aswell...
It was a civilian flight, MH17 flying from Schiphol, Amsterdam.
A friend of my father died in that flight
@@epicmemer5277 Lost a guy from our school too, considering our relatively small country it had a big social impact.
A family from the town i work (i´ Belgium) was sadly also on the plane, the ukrainians deserve all the weapons we could give just to punish the russians for the mh17 flight alone
Very well!! Loved this weapon when i was in the Dutch navy!
Proud to be Dutch!
Here is hoping that we will gift/lease/whatever our F16s to you as well.
Yeah lets give our whole military away! you are such an idiot. Mensen zoals jij verneuken ons land door overal maar in mee te gaan, je betaald zometeen 5 euro voor een paprika en dan alsnog zou je onze halve economie weg geven.
Precies
This must be so rewarding to see a Ukrainian soldier using that rifle to free his country. Great job to the Dutch armorers Ukraine
🇺🇦 🇳🇱 🇺🇸
I carried one for 2 yrs. Fine weapon. Only jammed 1 time with thousands of rounds through it.
Respect to Holland from Germany
❤
Dankjewel Hanzi .
Mafkees !!!
That old Elcan optic is downright iconic even if it is a bit obsolete
There is no such thing as obsolete in this specific war ...
@@Roomer645 It's damn near cutting edge given what they're usually going up against.
Remember that good guns don’t win wars… but they save the lives of the people that do
6:57 Am I the only one here who thinks that the guy in the unit whose hobby is duck hunting volunteered to do the paintjob on the C7s?
Check your Description it's Diemaco not Diemsco.
Also, I used the Diemaco (now colt) C7 and C8. They are both GREAT. Very accurate, good to handle and I personally just love them!
Glad to see the C7 back. Too bad it's in war time...
Love all videos on the m16 platform of weapons used in Ukraine. How about some videos on the cz Bren 2
Videos on all sorts to come - FNC, MSBS, Bren etc!
I was 1 who said that the firearms used in your prior video were probably Dutch sent Diemaco C7(A1). Glad you could confirm it ad that they are used by the Armed forces of Ukraine.
Had 1 myself, as personal weapon, in the Dutch forces, early 2000's. Glad they have found another purpose.
now live in Canada and would 've loved to buy and operate 1 again. Unfortunately... well that's another story.
Please keep us informed.
Thanks again! I will indeed. Yes, I'm not sure it will have the effect that is hoped for.
Canada sent several thousand C7s to Ukraine as well.
No they haven't, I spoke to the Canadian Defence department and they provided a list of small arms sent (I have a video on it here on the channel), they have however sent C8s!
And we're very likely to send them F-16's too. It's a bit controversial here in the Netherlands, but I'm glad our "kisten" and personally, my babies, are going to directly support Ukraine. Slava Ukraini and much love from the Royal Netherlands Airforce!
Thank you so much, from Ukraine. I can't believe how much aid the relatively small Kingdom has provided for us.
And more is coming
I used 1 for years in the CAF and love the C7and C8 great weapons and home built, always kinda thought the likes of the danish army for example was a bit like a mini canadian version as they have bought alot of their equipment from canada, plus the dutch switching to the c7s
Received C7A1 with Elcan C79 optic just a few weeks ago after arriving to my unit from a boot camp. Trying to get familiar with it, as I went through a boot camp with AK74 and AKM. Yet, its advantages to the old AKs are obvious at first sight. My comrades call it a marksman's rifle due to its precision and accuracy. Thanks for pointing out at "QR-code" feature. Now I know that my rifle was donated by the Dutch, not Canada, as I initially thought😏 So, many thanks to the people of Dutch for your help and support🤝
Ahh yes, very different going from AK to C7, did you find it easy to adapt? Thanks for watching, hope the rifle serves you well!
Ukraine's military will be close to NATO compatible by the end of this war. It will make it that much easier for when they are allowed to join.
2:10 basically the m16a5 concept.
I am Dutch. I was in the army for a long time. I’m proud that maybe my weapon is in Ukrainian hands. I can promise these weapons are well maintained. (Because I did a thousand times and improved my hard work another thousand times because the first time is never good enough😂)
You are proud to arm 14th SS Division? "Lest We Forget"?? you guys are as dumb as rocks...
As an Ex Armoured Infantry Officer of the Dutch Army,..
Those C7's bring back memories,..
I am 47 now and still a reservist untill 55,.. we will see when I get drafted,...
PAINF❤
Really smart for a country that doesnt have a capacity to defend its own country , we need all this stuff back asap!
Having my own issued C7 (M/95) it hurts to see the images in disrepair, and now i will go take even more care of it ahah
The ARs seem to be quite popular as the AK-74s have gained a poor reputation in the mud of the trenches.
I'm not altogether buying that the 74S were made for that terrain It was made by Russia for Russian country
I’d assume due to poor maintenance or shitty ammunition is the play in such case or the issue maybe be mud/clay that is thick enough.
AKs are extremely reliable. the problem is that what is being issued is worn out and old equipment. Now add to the fact that the ammo they are getting is 20 to 30 years old. Now add no basic cleaning isn't being done.
Well thats untrue. AK74s are just seen as quite basic, reliable and mainly for self defence. No coincidence these modern 5.56 rifles are going to assault brigades and similar, they will want sights and other attachments.
Inrangetv did mud tests here on youtube. AK platform rifles are horrible in the mud, becoming essentially a single shot rifle. AR platform works perfectly in mud.
Some of the C7's comes from Denmark. Old MG42/59 been send to Ukraine also. How many I don't know.
Fight, brave Ukrainian soldiers, fight! I wish we could do more. Warm greetings from a Dutch veteran. Слава Украине!
Ah the old diemago C7 A1. I used it a lot during my service time. Nice to see it in action again 😂
Canada has pledged 21000 rifles and over a million rounds of ammunition.
They have indeed.
AWESOME THANKS 👍👍👍😁👌!!!
I have had training with the dienaco c7 the first time i shot a real 5.56 on the shooting range i was so nervous it felt like minita before i finaly took the first shot. Taken a shot with this gun felt really good
Was about to comment those must be unmodified but good you made distinc features
Need to hear more info on .300blk and it’s effectiveness. Not so much the platforms, but the round itself would be an interesting watch
Loads on info available online, but basically heavier round, slower speed, so trajectory sucks balls long range. Short range it's great, especially with a suppressor, since the subsonic ammo still packs a punch because of it's weight vs subsonic 5.56mm (not that I would like to catch a subsonic 556...). The round seems not that great in this war seeing the combat range.
@@coenc0990 Ive read plenty from countless forums. Particularly for hunters. But there’s little to be had for in theater use. Minor notes about special ops in Ukraine but nothing about its performance
Thanks for this video.
I have no clue about rifles, pistols and those 'minimigs'.
I heard my government sent a shipment of weapons to Ukraine and I know that our forces use the C7/C8/HK416.
But I don't actually know what these things look like.
First time I actually saw an assault rifle, was from a guard detail at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, right after 9/11
I enjoyed this video and am happy my tiny country is able to help Ukraine in this horrible time.
Thank you for watching, glad you found it informative.
On the website of the Dutch ministry of defense they keep track of everything delivered to Ukraine. They also provided equipment to build a bridge fast. Somehow I find that funny.
Wait until we start to send them dams and windmills. Then shit will really hit the fan
Greetings/groeten from NL 🇳🇱 🇺🇦!
Be strong Dutch brother..... fight for your farmers
@@good2goskee The farmers that have been benefiting from favorful legislation which completely kept them unchecked for decades? and have to change their operation due to the climate crisis? Don't comment on this if you're not from here.Yes it might have been drastic but the farmers have been living in complete ignorance of this very obvious coming change, and now act surprised/violent.
@Maarten Nauta
You are you a farmer? My family are. Do you know how expensive nitrogen producing fertilizers are?
Are you challenging the most efficient farmers in the world (the Dutch), where it is in their financial best interest to use as little fertilizer as possible to achieve yeilds that will pay their bills and ensure Dutch food security ? However, for some reason, your government suggests their farm businesses are excessively producing N....REALLY?
Do you actually think the Dutch farming practices, which are modeled and studied in other countries, are acting reckless and irresponsible?
Do you understand China, the 2nd largest economy in the world, is given "developing nation" status, allowing them to pollute much more per cap than the Netherlands? Do you understand the Dutch farmer can be emasculated in the name of climate crisis, yet China and India could have a bad polluting month and completely nullify the sacrifices and decrease in Dutch standard of living ?
...please do not lecture me
Groeten 🇳🇱
Wait, so they're using the Dutch army's, Canadian designed variant of the American made M-16?
Is it possible to do a video on the various drones and the munitions they use in this conflict?
I'd need some help with that as it's not an area I'm too knowledgeable about. If you or anyone can help I'd be happy to work on it
@@TheArmourersBench Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I know nothing about drones myself.
Hello @TheArmourersBench! It will be awesome to see your insight into the next common shoulder launched AT weapon used in the Ukraine War besides AT4, SMAW, Javelin, NLAW : The RGW 90, commonly known as "MATADOR"
Yes absolutely, I've been tracking RGW-90 use so there will be a video!
@@TheArmourersBench you should look into the video on the russian propagandist shooting an AT4, it’s hilarious
@@TheArmourersBench Awesome! Looking forward to see it!
That sounds like a ton of work. Big shout out to the Dutch amrouers.
The rifles are made in Canada by Colt or Diemaco. They are the same rifles issued to Canadian Forces.
Mhmm as mentioned in the video. Thanks for watching.
Funny thing is that if you put 30 rounds in the mag it fails to feed! 29 rounds and it works a lot better
The C7 /C8 never got the ridiculous weight increase of the American A2 barrel, a much more practical rifle.
Yeah that happened, we should have kept the A2 to the marines and the A1 for everyone else
still astounds me how many places the duch have a part in, still we had a colony on every continent
That would be the designated Automatic Rifle of the fire team with 390 rounds or 12 magazines and bipod.
So that's where my C7A1 went!
How popular are Elcans?
damn those are cool guns
Your welcome guys!
It’s a great rifle and perfect for the weather conditions it would be up against in Ukraine.
do the mcx next
The list is so long, I've so much to cover!
This has nothing to do with c7's but I wish south Korea decided to deliver military aid simply to see daewoos in action
Weird to think about that my former service rifle is shooting Russians...
It’s finally doing what it was made to do.
Huge fan of the A1 Vietnam version with full auto but yes these are definitely very well suited for urban combat and good out to 300 Yards with iron sights in single shot mode with 3 round burst if all still equal. Great for raw recruits, usually comes with a cleaning kit and since baptism of fire was Vietnam there are ways to weather proof beyond what is inclusive. As for the M249 SAW also breifly pictured here that is a Belgian Weapon so no problems getting feedback from that particular item and is your primary infantry assault weapon. Depending on the skill set of small unit tactics this is truly an awesome amount of *EFFECTIVE* firepower should an enemies effort be ineffective, weak or best yet non-existant. How effective these scopes are that's all new to me but in theory to an experienced user out to 500 rounds very much in play depending upon the quality of the ammo, environmental conditions etc. Great entry level service rifle. The best there is really even today as you can break the item down so easily to see how it all functions and insodoing makes parts, modify, duct tape etc. and learn from this the superiority against those who are far too trigger happy versus those who take aim and wait.
Nothing wrong with the M-14 or even the M1 Garand in point of fact I'm just not knowledgeable in those systems other than the USA has millions of them...more than enough to equip all of Europe against an enemy such as Russia or should be seen as needed peacekeeping operations in East Africa.
Also Gen 3 Glocks were send for close combat accuracy.
Some of the rifles shown looked like a group of hungry Dutch soldiers tried eating them.
Soldiers do the stupidest shit with their rifles so military issue small arms have to be designed with that in mind. One of the reasons the US moved away from four prong flash hiders in Vietnam was that some soldiers used the barrel pry open crates and the Israeli Galil had a bottle opener added to the rifle because soldiers would try to open bottles with their rifles. Hell one of the traditions here in Finland is throwing RK-pattern rifles into pines and trying to get them to stick to the bark from the charging handle.
Well, they were hungry, and there weren't any Prime Ministers around.
Most likely Marines that ran out of crayons
We eat anything, omnomnomnom
@@jic1 Nah, Rutte is too boney to feed a compagny of Dutch Soldiers...
At best you maybe can pull some bouillon from him to make watery soup.
*Say what you will about the 5.56 bullet - It's moving at 3300 FPS and can do lots of damage for a small 77 Grain projectile while only having 6CM of drop over 800 Meters. It's like shooting a LASER BEAM!!*
One of the best.
have you seen the pics of ukrainian troops with fn f2000s? pretty cool
I have indeed, definitely going to be the subject of a video.
@@TheArmourersBench awesome. nice to see them finally get some usage
Send them more! Those ukranians need to fight harder for Democracy!
so my rifle that i trained with over 20 years ago might now be iin Ukrain weird feeling 😎
Lesson: Don't shoot down civilian airliners belonging to medium sized countries with significant weapon stocks.
As a Dutch citizen, I hope they'll put them to good use. Because we remember MH17... and we've got a score to settle.
I actually saw that exact rifle with optic used,in burst mode,it was used during the first few weeks of invasion by an American black man,shooting into Russian trenches where a Russian guy is seen running from trench to another but gets hit by said army guy,can't recall name of video it was a CNN video
Im itching for video about bren 2
It's coming don't worry. And the MSBS. I just need more time in a week to get to them, or afford to spend more time on making videos. I've a dozen I could do right now. Thanks for watching.