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Old Kong was pretty funny back then. Imagine my surprise when I came back and I pressed 1 expecting extendo stick and suddenly there was two of me. Glad to see this video on the monkey king. Great work!
So funny I used him like crazy back then then they changed him I was like oh cool for a bit and never used him again now I use rhino Guess I just like immortality
as a mythology nerd, the rework just made him more accurate. unfortunately, that means he's utterly broken in every sense of the word. just like his inspiration.
@@SpottedHares it gets worse actually. Taoist immorality, name erased from the book of the dead, peaches of immortality, wine of immorality, pills of immortality. That's five. Wukong is the original OP anime protagonist.
Wukong is the pure manifestation of the perfect rework. Wukog shows that DE can make miraculous things they just have an inexplicable ignorance of parts that is in need of a rework.
@@clementfermn6711it's probably coming soon. Our Lord and Savior Pablo asked the community about hudroid likes and dislikes just like he did for grendel before his rework
A long time I didn't want to play Wukong because I never really liked his kit, but when I tried him he instantly became my favourite pick for most missions.
I can see why,but a still call him "monkey fuck" in memorie of when he was garbage,but yeah great frame I am just a hipster that docent like the monkey
I swear Wukong has to be the frame I see the most in public lobbies. I think the frame I see the least of is, surprisingly enough, Limbo. I see more Grendels than I see Limbos.
@@LeyKT False, eximus don't really hurt him much other than their aura abilities, and most of the time those aren't a problem either. He is still a really strong frame but he takes a lot of weird stuff to work close to what other frames do, and even then people suck at running with him so they often make the few who do play him feel like crap for no reason.
He's been my main carry ever since playing Warframe during near the 1st prime resurgence announced on November a few yrs ago if I recall. Been sticking with Kuva Nukor clone and it was fun. Now I wanna update his gear because of this vid cuz it brings good memories of "Reject humanity, return to monke"
Wukong is too much fun! Your telling me the ability to fly through security missions, bonk grenieer with a giant stick, have a clone meme dance with you, and then eat damage... what's not to love
You forgot to mention that building Duration on Wukong can make his Could Walker quite extremely fun. Also allows you to fly on Open Worlds since the Cloud's base speed coupled with up to 9 seconds duration bears the question: who needs a Archwing Launcher? (One might need Energy Aura or Zenurik Wellspring to make it even better)
Wukong is so good that thanks to him, I was able to solo play and farm on Railjack the first two months. Granted I still had to be careful to not have my railjack on plain sight and it would get destroyed but Cloud Walker was a life saver for traveling fast inside the ships
Youre point? DR does not mean much couse even with 99% DR. You still get one shotted couse, 1% of like 1mil dmg is still enough to one shot you. Thats why people go over dmg negation/mitigation then straight up tanking the damage in high levels.
It is obvious why. Your twin is not so good now as in the past. So it is really hard to use wukong in the steelpath missions now. Of course you can in some cases use wukong and his cloudwalker and use him for spy missions but if you need survivability and killing potential it is just average warframe now.Reason? Weak Exalted weapon and trouble with munition because your twin uses your ammo. @@GhostsGraveYT
Defy is definitely one of my favorite subsumes with rhino, since not only it synergies exceptionally well with iron skin mechanics and gameplay (due to both being dmg absorb-type scaling abilities), roar also boost the final dmg of the nuke, making it deal more dmg than it should be. Wukong can also abuse this well though. Plus free 500 armor, good for general iron skin usage. Wukong is pretty effective for what he does though. Plus funni mini stomp in disposal, inheriting the cc power of a rhino stomp to an extent, even with few noticeable downsides (not casting speed moddable, 5m range loss, fixed 6s + 2s duration, hard to manipulate cc functionality of stomp type cc due to no time indicator and mechanics to deal with, loss the ability to resummon clone, and can't decide where the cc lands which can be detrimental), it is enough to make it a great cc.
Mesa and Wisp are my favorite frames, but Wukong is the one I pick whenever I need to do an activity I despise because I want its rewards and just need to get it over with. Wukong is not neccesarily the most fun frame to play, but he is the best at getting boring or tedious stuff done quickly and safely and that's why I think he has remained the No. 1 most popular frame for 3 years in a row. If anything, it should serve as evidence to DE that maybe they need to rework some of their missions/activities (cough cough Index) to be more fun and rewarding to make our time investment actually worth it.
Having Wu clone then summons the spectre, crew and some other summonings, and then bam. I am army. Suddenly I don't feel that alone anymore.| Best rework ever.
I don’t really use him a lot but I’ve found with the helminth system there’s one mission type for definite that he’s amazing at. Rescue. Just put Limbo’s Banish over his 4 (as his 4 is completely useless compared to other exalted weapons), cloudwalk to the rescue target, banish them (using it’s augment with max duration makes even eximus units unable to kill the target), then book it to the exit.
Wukong is one if my absolute favorite frames even though I play him diffrent from others. I have two wukongs. I have one with autohack ability and max efficiency so i can spam through any spy misson with ease. My 2nd is a wukong with his ultimate in mind. I put empower over defy, and giving both my clone and my ult and 50% perm increase to damage while being able to go inv and heal at anytime is amazing. Than his ult staff is just built like crazy to shred even steel path. Very fun flying into enemies, shredding, than flying to the next.
I have only been playing 53 days so my mod collection isn't great, but with that Wukong is still a badass. Now I am looking forward to getting some of his mods to help make him even more badass.
Wukong really is a splid warframe, but the "press 1 and afk" thing just pisses people off. Sometimes we really need a player to help us instead of a specter mindlessly blowing up enemies. For example, a player is downed during arbitration and with Wukong's mobility and invincibility, we can revive that downed player very quick but instead that Wukong chose to clone afk. And they can't see us chat bc they're probably alt tabbed.
The best part about using fire walker on his 4 is that not only your a f@cking fire cloud, when you come out of it fire walker makes you inmune to status. The Monkey King is an absolute menace.
I unironically want Wukong unnerfed. It's been my main since his rework, and the nerf completely gimped his 1. I'm not even asking for a full revert. Literally just the ammo consumption. Ammo for the fun weapons is scarce enough as it is. Now, he chews through everything before I get a chance. Since it's been a year, of course, I've come up with plenty of alternatives... but when one of those alternatives is the Torid Incarnon, the ammo reserve nerfs kinda seem unjustified now. Idk. Yeah, Bramma spam probably got annoying for a lot of people, but I doubt that our new powercrept weapons solved that problem. The full weapon damage would be nice to have back too, but, again, I've mostly fixed that too. I just wanna use some of my favorite weapons again and have ammo for them.
Shit even if we kept ammo consumption, just give the clone 75% ammo efficiency. I think that would be a healthy compromise Or a toggle that dictates which weapon it uses. Specifically primary or secondary. It already has a toggle, kind of depending on whether you bring a melee. For example; forcing it to use the secondary while you use a primary. Oh, better yet, snapshotting based on what gun you summon him with.
Ngl probably it's just me but like reverting the damage is fine enough since like I use weapons with enough ammo but he chews through it if he can't kill them since his damage is so much lower and even if he marks he's still doing less then pre nerf with the 2x since he has that extra 50% damage
Wukong to me is the jack of all trades frame. He has speed, health regen and a clone to fight with. He is one of those frames you can just go Bonk on people. I had a void survival mission for cracking relics. Got into a room and got surrounded, my companion was dead, my clone was gone, energy was drained and had enough to just pop a cloud walk off but I still had a melee weapon and just going to town. Forgot about everything else but the Bonk with Wukong built like a bruiser tank. It was one of those in the zone, do not care about anything else but the bonking. That is Wukong.
I wouldn't say that at all, there are a couple frames that do generalist stuff much better than him, especially ones with more complete kits. Wukong is fine, but he lacks a lot of important things that help for being the jack of all trades frame people praise him to be.
god i love old wukong. besides the cloud walker he was such a fun and reliable frame. perfect for when you just need to clear something solo without thinking
After Wukong Prime come he is my most Played Warframe till 2022, Not Because he is powerfull but he was fun for solo player, and during this time youtuber rated him B+ or C tier as he was not damage delaer. Before Kuva and Tenet, Acceletra and Wuclone was my go to. I hate only one change in Wukong and that My clone share my ammo pool.
Wukong carried me really hard for like 90% of the normal star chart, unfortunately i eventually deleted him as i stopped having interest in his gameplay and decided to try new warframes, and even tho i dont feel like he is exactly "necessary" for me anymore, im still getting his prime now that its in ressurgence and maybe retry him with a more sofisticated build than i had for my original one
One detail about the thumbnails I’ve found amusing is how every frame’s video has some word to describe it behind it, but in Inaros’s video, the word in the thumbnail is literally just ‘Inaros’ lmao
Fun thing to try! - instead of looking up and pressing up to fly look down and press down to fly! Thank me once you understand how it changes everything 😊
I think I’ve only used Wukong a few times since the rework and that’s mainly for a spy mission I have to do during a Sortie when I only have a few minutes left to complete 🙈
Facts! They don't contribute anything to the team. And always bring him to arbitrations just to not do anything!!! They get no kills, they don't buff you in anyway and just do nothing. It's always low to mid rank Mr players. And even some higher mr players are not good with him either. Such a great frame yet such bad operators.
I get hesitant when I see people say this is what a rework _should be._ His clone lets him do something Equinox can only do with an augment, infinitely better _without_ an augment. His invisibility was balanced by being slow, like Ivara's. Now they made it fast, so there's literally no drawback. He doesn't need to bother with 'terrain' and can just press W through every level. He has multiple forms of CC that bypass _the official CC immunity mechanic_ that's screwed over several entire Warframes. He doesn't even worry about dying, and his buffs make no sense in-universe. It feels gimmicky and immersion-breaking. At least the old Defy could be rationalized as him 'parrying the killing blow' or 'being too determined to give up.' He ignores every rule that makes the game...a game. And because of that, I often see Wukongs that get careless -- afk leeching during endurance missions and making the team revive them, mistiming their cloud walk and blundering into laser barriers in sortie spy missions, etc. It's like playing soccer with your hands. Is it that fun to just grab the ball, walk over, and...drop it in the square hole? Good video, not a good direction for reworks imo lmao
Regarding to cc, because he has one cc that inherits the rhino stomp properties, and consider that rhino stomp is just downright broken, this cc button is going to be broken to a certain extent too even with downsides needed to be dealt with, you still can make this work. I don't think wukong kinda defies the game itself, with wukong, you can still struggle in significant amount of cases where pretty much other frame excels, he is like Gauss or any other jack of all trades, doing a little bit of everything, but not all are the best or very top meta pick. After extended steel path, it is hard for wukong to survive well without ability spam, and clone can constantly being ded after a certain period due to enemies having too much dmg for the clone to handle, which just make the very great cc kinda limited in use...
"not really a mass murdering machine" *Immediately gets cut off by an ad M for mature: blood and gore* It was a Warframe ad (about wisp prime if you're curious)
Bro i bought his Blueprint from the clan but never crafted him because i never knew he was this good, i had his Blueprint since mr3 i am mr5 now and waiting on revenant for 3 days rn. If only i knew
I'll probably be in hot water after this comment but, I never understood fully why Wukong was so popular ever since I started playing the game. I only started playing around the most recent Plague Star event so I am not really an old player. However, I still seek to understand why is he popular. Cloudwalker and Defy (especially with that ninjase video), is probably the main reasons why. I already see Cloudwalker being an absolute breezefest in Spy missions or any speedrun missions like Capture or Rescue. However, Defy is where I find it quite underwhelming. I am not much of a minmax player but I am already accustomed to Shieldgate and while the 1500 armor is nice, purely relying on armor doesn't sound too great. Maybe a mix of Health tanking and shieldgate, sure coz that's what I do with Nezha. And because you can also scale further with armor strips with Defy, nothing is stopping other frames who have arguably a better AoE nuke capability, be boosted by Armor strip setups like Terrify Equinox for example. So in that sense, Defy is quite underwhelming to me. After the nerf of Wukong to his clone, because honestly I never found it useful even when other players use Wukong on my runs, I never found AFK farms fun for me. I want to kill stuff myself and those enemies drop the things I am farming. Maybe on some niche or specific situations sure, but I also never saw usefulness out of his clone at all. His exalted staff, is just garbage lets be real lmao. No one uses it. So even after this video, the only reason why people might still use Wukong is Cloudwalker and Defy. They work when you want them to work, but personally I wouldn't use Defy myself. Cloudwalker maybe but I already have Ivara with Kullervo subsume.(and Ivara Eclipse if i need her to do damage) I wouldn't say he is the "King" of warframe anymore, but Versatile? Yes, still quite versatile.
Even at versatility he is still quite underwhelming. Gauss would be my pick for that since he does literally everything under the sun at a near - fully top tier level. Nuking, Buffs, Speed, Grouping, CC, Survivability, etc. while Wukong has speed and survivability... not even remotely a complete kit. Sure the extra player could be said to be a damage buff, defy could be said to be a nuke ability, and the stomp augment could be deemed CC, but all of those are *just barely* within the realm of being called that. Not one of them is anywhere near the best, and they all have issues with being clunky or inefficient at their respective jobs. As a new players frame, absolutely fantastic pick, though I would say rhino takes that spot, but anywhere past that he just... falls off way too hard.
To be fair, you don’t have 1 staff, you have two, and it’s a status weapon. With his stance, and both range boosting mods he has huge aoe damage around himself
@@mulliganaway5627 Perhaps, but I still dont see value in that. Even if I want a status based weapon, almost all melee weapons could surpass 100% status chance with proper build. And in the case of melee primers (but who does this really lol) I would go get my Xoris for that. Even Contagion could work even.
In all my years and the many reworks I saw. Wukong didn’t get one, he got a fucking Apotheosis. I still refused to play him as I found him boring. But a good friend of mine did nothing But Wukong. It was nice seeing such a high quality Rework and redemption of a Warframe.
I vividly remember the day Wukong got his first rework. Finished leveling him 2 days before the update and i thought to myself "Wow, he sucks." Only for him to get the rework and became the only thing i used for a month straight.
While I do agree that the reworked helped I do miss old wukong though I would not say he is the greatest frame in the game by far. Unfortunately to many frames out shine him though he is good for new players
I adore Wukong and his clone so much that i hardly ever bring my melee weapons with me anymore. If you love playing with AI buddies / summoner playstyles, consider bringing a Specter (Protea being my favorite for Dispensary which it will use often) with a Tenet Arca Plasmor and a Railjack Crewmate with another Tenet Plasmor (even better if you get one with the Heal Aura on kill). It's the most ridiculous playstyle to me personally. The value you bring to your squad goes to a whole other level, given that you basically bring 3 aimbots with one-shot kill cannons, plus whatever abilities your Specter has and perk your Crewmember came with. You're basically supporting your squad without even thinking about it and while you are doing other things, or just through sheer damage output / killing potential. "Apes together strong."
That's basically my entire deimos farming after hiatus for around 4 years. Kinda funny that i rushed for this kind of setup.... Or probably just because i had a trust and connection issues back when raids were still a thing
I’ve had that happen, it’s amusing. I’ll be playing, say, Harrow, a pub Wukong summons their CT through that, and suddenly there’s this Wukong clone following me around like a lost puppy.
Celestial Twin using your ammo is still a big issue for a few reasons. 1. No other Frame in the entire game has a power that uses your ammo, imagine the outcry from Mesa players if her 4 used your Secondary ammo. The clone uses all your ammo. 2. The clone is actually not very smart and at times will just shoot at walls or into the air, this wasn't a big deal before because it has infinite ammo but now it can just chew through your ammo supply for no reason. Using a battery weapon is not a good response to this problem either as its forcing people to just not play the fun guns they want cuz monkey clone dumb. They need a solution that doesn't make using the Celestial Twin unfun with fun guns.
@@noahedenborg4221 no one does that, they also have ant-afk measures is the game. China may do that but Warfeame China is not the same as normal Warframe. There where other solutions, they took a sledgehammer to the problem instead of the scalpel they could have used.
@@noahedenborg4221 um, cuz people don't actually fo that. Nothing stops you from just using a Wisp specter armed with a Zarr either so people could still do it if that was actually a thing. You haven't refuted any of my points, you're just complaining about AFKing, and if Wukong could do it then any frame with a Specture could do it and people aren't complaining about that. People's biggest bitch about Wukong was him using 2 Zarrs and that fix was super easy, just have the twin use the iron staff if you unequip your melee, problem solved.
@@stephenschneekloth1535 im sry when did i compain about afking cus it seem ur complaining about not being able to have the clone have infinite ammo HMMMMM
Hey guy so I’m a returning player from way back in the day and stop pretty early (as some players do.) I’m really interested in getting wukong and I know getting into a clan and getting him is one way but I don’t wish to join a clan. My question is, is he good to buy early then grind the rest of the game or should i wait. I would really appreciate a response and thanks for the info 🙏🏽
I just have the twin use the Epitapth for me so I don't need to prime enemies myself but I play Wukong less like a weapons platform and more like a melee frame with support.
I remember my friend who got me into WF said I might like wukong (she likes using wk). So after I fully level his mastery I never touch wukong again bc I dislike everything except the prime helmet, sorry friend 🙃
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Could you do one on the operators I think that would be pretty intresting to see
You use Wu Clone to have higher DPS, I use Wu Clone because I feel alone. We are not the same
💯 agree with you
Lol😂😂
Having wuclone in one of those scary mission is a need
I use wukong because i got host migration most of the time we're not the same
I agree, especially if you are on a solo mision that you are having a hard time doing. having a extra hand would be very valuable
Old Kong was pretty funny back then. Imagine my surprise when I came back and I pressed 1 expecting extendo stick and suddenly there was two of me. Glad to see this video on the monkey king. Great work!
So funny I used him like crazy back then then they changed him I was like oh cool for a bit and never used him again now I use rhino Guess I just like immortality
Lmaoooo I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who called it extendo stick
@@moeluminati2844well if you like immortality ull love revenant🤣👍🏾
@@fallenrai5200 got em rhino better 🦏
as a mythology nerd, the rework just made him more accurate. unfortunately, that means he's utterly broken in every sense of the word. just like his inspiration.
true
A triple immortal character becomes a triple immortal Warframe
@@SpottedHares it gets worse actually.
Taoist immorality, name erased from the book of the dead, peaches of immortality, wine of immorality, pills of immortality.
That's five. Wukong is the original OP anime protagonist.
thats crazy@@uber_nerd-l7r
@@uber_nerd-l7r Ah, I see. You're an Eastern mythology enjoyer as well?
(I read your comment, just wanted an excuse to make that joke)
Wukong is the pure manifestation of the perfect rework. Wukog shows that DE can make miraculous things they just have an inexplicable ignorance of parts that is in need of a rework.
I wouldn't call it ignorance exactly. They're trying to balance making things effective, without optimizing fun out of the game.
@@Densoro hydroid rework when?
didn't seem like he needed a rework tbh
@@Always.Smarter He was too boring just having infinite lives. Making him actually fun to play was the key thing of the rework
@@clementfermn6711it's probably coming soon. Our Lord and Savior Pablo asked the community about hudroid likes and dislikes just like he did for grendel before his rework
A long time I didn't want to play Wukong because I never really liked his kit, but when I tried him he instantly became my favourite pick for most missions.
I can see why,but a still call him "monkey fuck" in memorie of when he was garbage,but yeah great frame I am just a hipster that docent like the monkey
I swear Wukong has to be the frame I see the most in public lobbies. I think the frame I see the least of is, surprisingly enough, Limbo. I see more Grendels than I see Limbos.
@@princesscadance197Eximus rework made him jobless.
@@LeyKT False, eximus don't really hurt him much other than their aura abilities, and most of the time those aren't a problem either. He is still a really strong frame but he takes a lot of weird stuff to work close to what other frames do, and even then people suck at running with him so they often make the few who do play him feel like crap for no reason.
@@LeyKTnot true , it's mainly due to how convoluted he is to play , it requires actual timing and skill which is pretty unseen on the best frames
He's been my main carry ever since playing Warframe during near the 1st prime resurgence announced on November a few yrs ago if I recall. Been sticking with Kuva Nukor clone and it was fun. Now I wanna update his gear because of this vid cuz it brings good memories of "Reject humanity, return to monke"
Wukong is too much fun! Your telling me the ability to fly through security missions, bonk grenieer with a giant stick, have a clone meme dance with you, and then eat damage... what's not to love
+points for monke
You forgot to mention that building Duration on Wukong can make his Could Walker quite extremely fun.
Also allows you to fly on Open Worlds since the Cloud's base speed coupled with up to 9 seconds duration bears the question: who needs a Archwing Launcher?
(One might need Energy Aura or Zenurik Wellspring to make it even better)
Yeah keeping up with archwings is so fun, just straight monkey power lol
Wukong is so good that thanks to him, I was able to solo play and farm on Railjack the first two months. Granted I still had to be careful to not have my railjack on plain sight and it would get destroyed but Cloud Walker was a life saver for traveling fast inside the ships
Worth noting: +1500 armor is +83% DR, and +750 armor is +71.5% DR
Youre point? DR does not mean much couse even with 99% DR. You still get one shotted couse, 1% of like 1mil dmg is still enough to one shot you. Thats why people go over dmg negation/mitigation then straight up tanking the damage in high levels.
@@eLovvski
I'm... just giving the values of dr for information, dude
@@eLovvskiwhat an insane response
wukong definitely deserved his video as he is very good, especially for how early he's obtained.
love your vids btw, keep it up! :)
He was... Now it is good only for beginners at the start.
@@garri235can you explain why he falls off later game then?
It is obvious why. Your twin is not so good now as in the past. So it is really hard to use wukong in the steelpath missions now. Of course you can in some cases use wukong and his cloudwalker and use him for spy missions but if you need survivability and killing potential it is just average warframe now.Reason? Weak Exalted weapon and trouble with munition because your twin uses your ammo.
@@GhostsGraveYT
@@GhostsGraveYThe doesn't really fall off if you build him right. I use Wukong Prime most of the time in steel path and arbitration
Defy is definitely one of my favorite subsumes with rhino, since not only it synergies exceptionally well with iron skin mechanics and gameplay (due to both being dmg absorb-type scaling abilities), roar also boost the final dmg of the nuke, making it deal more dmg than it should be. Wukong can also abuse this well though.
Plus free 500 armor, good for general iron skin usage.
Wukong is pretty effective for what he does though.
Plus funni mini stomp in disposal, inheriting the cc power of a rhino stomp to an extent, even with few noticeable downsides (not casting speed moddable, 5m range loss, fixed 6s + 2s duration, hard to manipulate cc functionality of stomp type cc due to no time indicator and mechanics to deal with, loss the ability to resummon clone, and can't decide where the cc lands which can be detrimental), it is enough to make it a great cc.
Instead of Defy, try Parasitic Armor on Rhino. I promise you will not regret it.
I use chroma vex Armor with ice element in Rhino
@@mustlovecats442 nah.
@@vivekkparashar it has a interaction where you will still deflect bullets even though skin is up so it is viable, plus some free armor.
@@amolistic_ yup
Mesa and Wisp are my favorite frames, but Wukong is the one I pick whenever I need to do an activity I despise because I want its rewards and just need to get it over with. Wukong is not neccesarily the most fun frame to play, but he is the best at getting boring or tedious stuff done quickly and safely and that's why I think he has remained the No. 1 most popular frame for 3 years in a row. If anything, it should serve as evidence to DE that maybe they need to rework some of their missions/activities (cough cough Index) to be more fun and rewarding to make our time investment actually worth it.
Having Wu clone then summons the spectre, crew and some other summonings, and then bam. I am army.
Suddenly I don't feel that alone anymore.|
Best rework ever.
I am loving these videos. Kind of like a warframe summoning salt almost.
I don’t really use him a lot but I’ve found with the helminth system there’s one mission type for definite that he’s amazing at. Rescue. Just put Limbo’s Banish over his 4 (as his 4 is completely useless compared to other exalted weapons), cloudwalk to the rescue target, banish them (using it’s augment with max duration makes even eximus units unable to kill the target), then book it to the exit.
Haha funny max range Celestial stomp
Good idea. I still just use Ash with smoke screen augment for reacue
If you're fast enough with cloud walk you don't even need banish. Let the rescue teleport to you.
Wukong is one if my absolute favorite frames even though I play him diffrent from others. I have two wukongs. I have one with autohack ability and max efficiency so i can spam through any spy misson with ease.
My 2nd is a wukong with his ultimate in mind. I put empower over defy, and giving both my clone and my ult and 50% perm increase to damage while being able to go inv and heal at anytime is amazing. Than his ult staff is just built like crazy to shred even steel path. Very fun flying into enemies, shredding, than flying to the next.
I have only been playing 53 days so my mod collection isn't great, but with that Wukong is still a badass. Now I am looking forward to getting some of his mods to help make him even more badass.
Wukong was my first main and even now that i am main styanax i still love him with all my heart, the monkey is simply amazing
Wukong really is a splid warframe, but the "press 1 and afk" thing just pisses people off. Sometimes we really need a player to help us instead of a specter mindlessly blowing up enemies. For example, a player is downed during arbitration and with Wukong's mobility and invincibility, we can revive that downed player very quick but instead that Wukong chose to clone afk. And they can't see us chat bc they're probably alt tabbed.
The best part about using fire walker on his 4 is that not only your a f@cking fire cloud, when you come out of it fire walker makes you inmune to status. The Monkey King is an absolute menace.
I unironically want Wukong unnerfed. It's been my main since his rework, and the nerf completely gimped his 1. I'm not even asking for a full revert. Literally just the ammo consumption. Ammo for the fun weapons is scarce enough as it is. Now, he chews through everything before I get a chance. Since it's been a year, of course, I've come up with plenty of alternatives... but when one of those alternatives is the Torid Incarnon, the ammo reserve nerfs kinda seem unjustified now. Idk. Yeah, Bramma spam probably got annoying for a lot of people, but I doubt that our new powercrept weapons solved that problem.
The full weapon damage would be nice to have back too, but, again, I've mostly fixed that too. I just wanna use some of my favorite weapons again and have ammo for them.
Shit even if we kept ammo consumption, just give the clone 75% ammo efficiency. I think that would be a healthy compromise
Or a toggle that dictates which weapon it uses. Specifically primary or secondary. It already has a toggle, kind of depending on whether you bring a melee.
For example; forcing it to use the secondary while you use a primary. Oh, better yet, snapshotting based on what gun you summon him with.
what all got nerfed about him?
Ngl probably it's just me but like reverting the damage is fine enough since like I use weapons with enough ammo but he chews through it if he can't kill them since his damage is so much lower and even if he marks he's still doing less then pre nerf with the 2x since he has that extra 50% damage
Wukong to me is the jack of all trades frame. He has speed, health regen and a clone to fight with. He is one of those frames you can just go Bonk on people.
I had a void survival mission for cracking relics. Got into a room and got surrounded, my companion was dead, my clone was gone, energy was drained and had enough to just pop a cloud walk off but I still had a melee weapon and just going to town. Forgot about everything else but the Bonk with Wukong built like a bruiser tank. It was one of those in the zone, do not care about anything else but the bonking.
That is Wukong.
I wouldn't say that at all, there are a couple frames that do generalist stuff much better than him, especially ones with more complete kits. Wukong is fine, but he lacks a lot of important things that help for being the jack of all trades frame people praise him to be.
god i love old wukong.
besides the cloud walker he was such a fun and reliable frame.
perfect for when you just need to clear something solo without thinking
You know it's gonna be a journey when nova says "his Warframe is drastically different from what it is today."
After Wukong Prime come he is my most Played Warframe till 2022, Not Because he is powerfull but he was fun for solo player, and during this time youtuber rated him B+ or C tier as he was not damage delaer. Before Kuva and Tenet, Acceletra and Wuclone was my go to. I hate only one change in Wukong and that My clone share my ammo pool.
Caught off guard by Zentaro's theme, good music choices. Respect.
damn fellow striker
@@xylord8805 yeah! Loved that game, hit top 40 even. Stopped playing it tho. But I loved it when I loved it
Wukong carried me really hard for like 90% of the normal star chart, unfortunately i eventually deleted him as i stopped having interest in his gameplay and decided to try new warframes, and even tho i dont feel like he is exactly "necessary" for me anymore, im still getting his prime now that its in ressurgence and maybe retry him with a more sofisticated build than i had for my original one
One detail about the thumbnails I’ve found amusing is how every frame’s video has some word to describe it behind it, but in Inaros’s video, the word in the thumbnail is literally just ‘Inaros’ lmao
haha I'll have to update it, at the time I couldn't really come up with a phrase for the thumbnail
@@NovaUmbralForgotten
I didn't know anything about Warframe. I just heard about a Wukong Warframe and had to get it.
I have him on literally every game he is in mobile included. He is a beast everywhere. Love WuKong. He is a mythological God, too! Worth praying to.
I love using Wukong as a solo guy. When I'm really struggling with a mission, I'll use him.
Lightning !! Best music to start a video 👍
Fun thing to try! - instead of looking up and pressing up to fly look down and press down to fly! Thank me once you understand how it changes everything 😊
That disclaimer at the start though....When you know you know.
Not to mention the mental one man wukong army by zanagoth back in 2019
and now in 2024, wukong still one of the best frame, my friend even called him god of sortie and netracells
seen this a lot lately, characters in games that are derived from china (mostly wukong) are almost always meta or at least not bad.
conspiracy? yes.
This is why I grinded his prime which looks awesome btw
I personally despise Wukong but this is a very good video.
I'm really glad I'm not alone in this
Same lol
Yup
Ditto
"That's right! It goes in the square hole!"
I think I’ve only used Wukong a few times since the rework and that’s mainly for a spy mission I have to do during a Sortie when I only have a few minutes left to complete 🙈
Was watching your styanax video and saw something new pop up lmao
Because you had a permanent spectre that could fire kv zarr while you got lunch thats how
Im farming Grendel, Seems kida good
I had a lot of fun with him. I think I'll farm him again!
Grendal is a great frame now thanks to the rework
While I don't hate Wukong as a frame the players that use him though is a different story.
Facts! They don't contribute anything to the team. And always bring him to arbitrations just to not do anything!!! They get no kills, they don't buff you in anyway and just do nothing. It's always low to mid rank Mr players. And even some higher mr players are not good with him either. Such a great frame yet such bad operators.
wukong prime feels like its never vaulted
Wukong used to be my main, but because of the sevagoth augment ice switched back to sevagoth being my main
They may have reworked him and gave him a prime variant butt I will never forget his charging plug on the non-prime variant.
I get hesitant when I see people say this is what a rework _should be._
His clone lets him do something Equinox can only do with an augment, infinitely better _without_ an augment.
His invisibility was balanced by being slow, like Ivara's. Now they made it fast, so there's literally no drawback.
He doesn't need to bother with 'terrain' and can just press W through every level.
He has multiple forms of CC that bypass _the official CC immunity mechanic_ that's screwed over several entire Warframes.
He doesn't even worry about dying, and his buffs make no sense in-universe. It feels gimmicky and immersion-breaking. At least the old Defy could be rationalized as him 'parrying the killing blow' or 'being too determined to give up.'
He ignores every rule that makes the game...a game. And because of that, I often see Wukongs that get careless -- afk leeching during endurance missions and making the team revive them, mistiming their cloud walk and blundering into laser barriers in sortie spy missions, etc.
It's like playing soccer with your hands. Is it that fun to just grab the ball, walk over, and...drop it in the square hole?
Good video, not a good direction for reworks imo lmao
Regarding to cc, because he has one cc that inherits the rhino stomp properties, and consider that rhino stomp is just downright broken, this cc button is going to be broken to a certain extent too even with downsides needed to be dealt with, you still can make this work.
I don't think wukong kinda defies the game itself, with wukong, you can still struggle in significant amount of cases where pretty much other frame excels, he is like Gauss or any other jack of all trades, doing a little bit of everything, but not all are the best or very top meta pick.
After extended steel path, it is hard for wukong to survive well without ability spam, and clone can constantly being ded after a certain period due to enemies having too much dmg for the clone to handle, which just make the very great cc kinda limited in use...
"not really a mass murdering machine"
*Immediately gets cut off by an ad
M for mature: blood and gore*
It was a Warframe ad (about wisp prime if you're curious)
Bro i bought his Blueprint from the clan but never crafted him because i never knew he was this good, i had his Blueprint since mr3 i am mr5 now and waiting on revenant for 3 days rn. If only i knew
Son Wukong would've been proud of Wukong.
Rebecca basically the fire nation of warframe
Wait what I haven’t played warframe in ages, might hop back in to use one of my only prime’s
came back to the game after 2 years and wukong is garbonzo now. clone struggles killing corpus enemies with a 700% eclipse buff.
The title should have been "How Wukong review bombed Warframe" xD
I haven't seen a lot of Wukong's around recently.
I'll probably be in hot water after this comment but, I never understood fully why Wukong was so popular ever since I started playing the game. I only started playing around the most recent Plague Star event so I am not really an old player. However, I still seek to understand why is he popular.
Cloudwalker and Defy (especially with that ninjase video), is probably the main reasons why. I already see Cloudwalker being an absolute breezefest in Spy missions or any speedrun missions like Capture or Rescue. However, Defy is where I find it quite underwhelming. I am not much of a minmax player but I am already accustomed to Shieldgate and while the 1500 armor is nice, purely relying on armor doesn't sound too great. Maybe a mix of Health tanking and shieldgate, sure coz that's what I do with Nezha.
And because you can also scale further with armor strips with Defy, nothing is stopping other frames who have arguably a better AoE nuke capability, be boosted by Armor strip setups like Terrify Equinox for example. So in that sense, Defy is quite underwhelming to me.
After the nerf of Wukong to his clone, because honestly I never found it useful even when other players use Wukong on my runs, I never found AFK farms fun for me. I want to kill stuff myself and those enemies drop the things I am farming. Maybe on some niche or specific situations sure, but I also never saw usefulness out of his clone at all.
His exalted staff, is just garbage lets be real lmao. No one uses it.
So even after this video, the only reason why people might still use Wukong is Cloudwalker and Defy. They work when you want them to work, but personally I wouldn't use Defy myself. Cloudwalker maybe but I already have Ivara with Kullervo subsume.(and Ivara Eclipse if i need her to do damage) I wouldn't say he is the "King" of warframe anymore, but Versatile? Yes, still quite versatile.
Even at versatility he is still quite underwhelming. Gauss would be my pick for that since he does literally everything under the sun at a near - fully top tier level. Nuking, Buffs, Speed, Grouping, CC, Survivability, etc. while Wukong has speed and survivability... not even remotely a complete kit. Sure the extra player could be said to be a damage buff, defy could be said to be a nuke ability, and the stomp augment could be deemed CC, but all of those are *just barely* within the realm of being called that. Not one of them is anywhere near the best, and they all have issues with being clunky or inefficient at their respective jobs.
As a new players frame, absolutely fantastic pick, though I would say rhino takes that spot, but anywhere past that he just... falls off way too hard.
@@CollateralKaos Fair point. Its also why I went with Gauss first and did not touch Wukong. I just find him really meh vs other frames.
To be fair, you don’t have 1 staff, you have two, and it’s a status weapon. With his stance, and both range boosting mods he has huge aoe damage around himself
@@mulliganaway5627 Perhaps, but I still dont see value in that. Even if I want a status based weapon, almost all melee weapons could surpass 100% status chance with proper build. And in the case of melee primers (but who does this really lol) I would go get my Xoris for that. Even Contagion could work even.
In all my years and the many reworks I saw. Wukong didn’t get one, he got a fucking Apotheosis. I still refused to play him as I found him boring. But a good friend of mine did nothing But Wukong. It was nice seeing such a high quality Rework and redemption of a Warframe.
Yeah boiii!
I never tried to learn how to play him 😂 i asked my friend who plays him whats the best ability and boom my build was made
Nice video
i miss old wukong because i could combo his 1st augment with arca titron and bring the slam jam
yeah it would be fun to mess around with today like imagine u could extend exec slam waves or exodia epidemic shit would be fun
With prime resurgence i got all wukong prime parts in under 4 hours
For those who have some aya just go and buy the relics now is the time
And they nerfed his clone
I distinctly remember equinox winning the poll
Wukong won last weeks, scroll back a bit and you'll find both polls
I vividly remember the day Wukong got his first rework. Finished leveling him 2 days before the update and i thought to myself "Wow, he sucks." Only for him to get the rework and became the only thing i used for a month straight.
While I do agree that the reworked helped I do miss old wukong though I would not say he is the greatest frame in the game by far. Unfortunately to many frames out shine him though he is good for new players
FINALLY WE GOT IT
I like the crono trigger music
best beginner warframe after joining a clan
3 lives/ /heal + travel /clone /invulnerablility + armor
The biggest question is: Wuclone or Twokong?
I love wukong and used him soo much but gauss made me not use wukong anymore.
I adore Wukong and his clone so much that i hardly ever bring my melee weapons with me anymore.
If you love playing with AI buddies / summoner playstyles, consider bringing a Specter (Protea being my favorite for Dispensary which it will use often) with a Tenet Arca Plasmor and a Railjack Crewmate with another Tenet Plasmor (even better if you get one with the Heal Aura on kill). It's the most ridiculous playstyle to me personally.
The value you bring to your squad goes to a whole other level, given that you basically bring 3 aimbots with one-shot kill cannons, plus whatever abilities your Specter has and perk your Crewmember came with. You're basically supporting your squad without even thinking about it and while you are doing other things, or just through sheer damage output / killing potential.
"Apes together strong."
That's basically my entire deimos farming after hiatus for around 4 years. Kinda funny that i rushed for this kind of setup....
Or probably just because i had a trust and connection issues back when raids were still a thing
@@JAzure-hk1sx Yeah i don't like to rely on my teammates too much either in Warframe, so it's nice to have such strong AI buddies, just in case.
haha, using an unassuming utility ability like cloudwalk to enable an unconventional room clearing nuke
surely such a thing would never happen ag-
the final fantasy 13 music😩
equinox duality could actualy get some duration buff than it would overshadow the clone so easy with its 300% dmg buff
I remember 2020, anyone played other wf just wukong, even noobies played wukong
"The most revives in the game"
Nidus: Am I a joke to you?
10/10 frame, return to monkey prime!
*Revenant prime has entered the chat
Small addition: Railjack gives you a second Wuclone.
I’ve had that happen, it’s amusing. I’ll be playing, say, Harrow, a pub Wukong summons their CT through that, and suddenly there’s this Wukong clone following me around like a lost puppy.
Would love to know the colours used on that black wukong set please
Good job DE, now do Inaros, Hydroid, and Sevagoth.
Sevagoth is good and has a very synergistic kit
Sevagoth? Mabye but his problem is gloom being helmith
Celestial Twin using your ammo is still a big issue for a few reasons.
1. No other Frame in the entire game has a power that uses your ammo, imagine the outcry from Mesa players if her 4 used your Secondary ammo. The clone uses all your ammo.
2. The clone is actually not very smart and at times will just shoot at walls or into the air, this wasn't a big deal before because it has infinite ammo but now it can just chew through your ammo supply for no reason.
Using a battery weapon is not a good response to this problem either as its forcing people to just not play the fun guns they want cuz monkey clone dumb. They need a solution that doesn't make using the Celestial Twin unfun with fun guns.
u do under stand de doesnt want to be able to make players literally afk for hours
thats why that nerf happend
@@noahedenborg4221 no one does that, they also have ant-afk measures is the game. China may do that but Warfeame China is not the same as normal Warframe.
There where other solutions, they took a sledgehammer to the problem instead of the scalpel they could have used.
@@stephenschneekloth1535 that didnt seem to solve people bassicly afking and letting the clone kill everything before the nerf
@@noahedenborg4221 um, cuz people don't actually fo that. Nothing stops you from just using a Wisp specter armed with a Zarr either so people could still do it if that was actually a thing. You haven't refuted any of my points, you're just complaining about AFKing, and if Wukong could do it then any frame with a Specture could do it and people aren't complaining about that.
People's biggest bitch about Wukong was him using 2 Zarrs and that fix was super easy, just have the twin use the iron staff if you unequip your melee, problem solved.
@@stephenschneekloth1535 im sry when did i compain about afking cus it seem ur complaining about not being able to have the clone have infinite ammo HMMMMM
I hope DE does inaros like they did Wukong tbh
Can you PLEASE share your wukong fashion?
Hey guy so I’m a returning player from way back in the day and stop pretty early (as some players do.) I’m really interested in getting wukong and I know getting into a clan and getting him is one way but I don’t wish to join a clan. My question is, is he good to buy early then grind the rest of the game or should i wait. I would really appreciate a response and thanks for the info 🙏🏽
Still waiting for nyx rework
Nyx is good💀 she doesn’t need a rework
May I ask what is the skin of Wukong you're showing in video specifically the helmet, it looks awesome.
I wish he would could use his secondary (for epitapth + glaive) and have his clone use primary
he technically can if you run the ammo of your primary dry so the clone has to switch weapons
@@LightCrib2 how would that help in any way?? I'm saying I want to use my secondary+melee while the clone uses primary
I just have the twin use the Epitapth for me so I don't need to prime enemies myself but I play Wukong less like a weapons platform and more like a melee frame with support.
@@hollowcookie9648
Oh i misread that mb
We need a railjack video
4th skill better to change to mirage Eclipse.
SUN WHU HIT THE GRIDDY
I remember my friend who got me into WF said I might like wukong (she likes using wk). So after I fully level his mastery I never touch wukong again bc I dislike everything except the prime helmet, sorry friend 🙃
damn iron vault would be fun
While really op I don’t find him that fun to play to be honest, just takes the challenge out of everything
Guess i need to get wukong prime lol
You should do a video on Valkyr man😢