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A Historically Faithful Classic From Hamilton - Khaki Aviation Pilot Pioneer
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2021
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Good to see this ridiculously underrated piece finally getting more attention! 📈
No it's not, let it slip away into obscurity reviewers
Watch this at 0.75x. I just bought this today. You have to see it in person. It’s a beautiful thing. A true reissue of the original 1970’s one. Don’t be put off by “faux”. It really doesn’t scream faux anything. It’s just not bright green. In person it just looks a little muted and it matches the dial. I have 6” wrists and it wears perfectly. It makes the normal Khaki Field look cheap.
Teddy- I'm super impressed with how far you have come over the last couple of years. I remember seeing this channel when it was brand new, and then watching you absolutely blow up! You're da best.
Mine arrived today. Wow. Even better in person than in video!
I now own this and the field mechanical. A perfect pair.
Hi what do you prefer? I have the mechanical black and white steel
If I had to choose one I’d say the pilot pioneer
I love the looks and size of this watch. A sapphire would make it perfect for me. I rather have glare than scratches.
I’d even take an acrylic crystal. Good luck getting any scratches out of a mineral.
I think an application of AR on the sapphire crystal should take care of any glare problems.
This is my favorite watch. I would't say this is a "small" watch for "small wrists", tho. Generally speaking 36mm is just fine for 6-7 inch +wrist folks which are just about 90% of the fellas out there. Think of Casio 158A (35mm), and that just fits great for almost anyone. This watch ain't too small for me and I'm 6'2" 230 lb and have 7.25 inch wrist.
Is it a little bit overpriced by like 100$ to 150$? Kinda yes. But I think it is still a helluva BEAUTIFUL timepiece.
Mine is beautiful! Great for us small wristy guys?!?!;) this case was designed by Ray Mellor who left Hamilton to form CWC a company made just to supply the Brittish MOD with timepieces for the armed forces! Go check out the Mellor 72 . The Hammy is more of a dressier piece because of the textured dial , patina lume and the fact it hasn’t got fixed spring bars. The Mellor 72 looks like a watch you bought at the time they made it!!!;) check out the reviews anyway I enjoyed it;)
Thanks for the tip, still like the Hamilton better.
A 60% upcharge over the Khaki Field for "reasons" seems absurd, and honestly makes me roll my eyes at Hamilton.
You can buy this watch on Jomashop for $575 using their $20 off promocode. When purchasing Hamilton watches, grey market is the way to go.
@@isaiahdavis2346 That may be true, but I bought my Khaki Field on Jomashop for $350 so the argument still holds :P 60% more regardless of retail or gray market.
@@isaiahdavis2346 ive been looking at purchasing my first watch, so ive been trying to look at established/certified places for the most part. Im curious tho, can I trust Jomashop?
@@mario.4173 yes you can. I've purchased a few pieces from them. No problems
Yup , this watch is not worth the asking price!! Maybe about 400 dollars
I chose the Field Mechanical 38 over this but I still can't stop looking at it, lovely.
Seriously thinking about buying this watch. Even with a 8" wrist size put it on a good leather strap. I'm tired of the nato, zulu straps and the dinner plate watches. To tell you the truth I like the old days when I just needed to know the time.
Very good.. nato...zulu are Just wasted Money
Did the same. It was a bit of a shocker initially, but your eyes and understanding adjusts. In normal wear with a long sleeve shirt, it looks fine. Compared to the 44 I’ve regularly worn, it’s light and jewel like. When warmer weather comes and I’m rolling up my sleeves, I might not wear it as much, but that’s fine.
Did you go for one?
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No doubt about the quality of the finish and the aesthetics. Hard not to double-take the crystal and the provision of a good quality, but uninspiring, strap, for that price. I would rather sapphire, acrylic and mineral, in that order.
Still, it's lovely.
Thanks!
If you see the sapphire Khaki field and this one in person, this one makes the other one look cheap in comparison.
I had no idea that mineral crystals were so much more clear than sapphire. Thanks for the lesson!
Super clear. I spent some time with the Khaki Field and this one at the store today. Walked out with this one. No question. If you want a little vintage field watch this is the one.
Weirdly enough hesalite/acrylic is even clearer. People think plastic would be more..."milky", but it's the opposite. New properly polished hesalite crystal looks as if it's not even there. One of the advantages of acrylic crystals. Shame it becomes extinct on watches outside of affordable range. It has more advantages than people think. In fact the only advantage of sapphire I can think of is that it doesn't scratch easily. Which seems to be the only thing people worry about in a luxury watch. But hesalite is actually better for protecting the movement and dial of the watch, doesn't shatter, more impact resistant, clearer, can be polished multiple times quite easily. Also, hesalite is extremely non-reflective. So, no need for an anti-glare measures. It's also why it's so clear.
I love the vintage case shape.
A crystal as high as this, out there to be banged, should be sapphire and not fragile mineral, especially at this price.
this watch would be a great piece if it was priced around the khaki field watches, half this price. at this price, it doesn't really offer you the best value.
Glad the price hurts, discontinue it 🙊
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If this had acrylic or sapphire, I'd own one already. Mineral's a hard deal-breaker, once you scuff it you're sol.
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i rlly cant tell if his voice is sped up or if hes just talkin that fast. teddy wats goin on??
Oh my god for real ! He’s talking so fast 😂
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I bought this yesterday for a beater watch. I'll probably get a dark brown glossy Crocodile Nato strap for this, I think that would look exceptional.
No a criticism (because I am afraid some will take it so) but a question whether Teddy is only going to review watch brands he is an authorized dealer for from now on? Not that some of these watches aren't great but I was curious if there will be limitations on what brands will be reviewed? Will it also limit any potential criticisms? I.e. will these be more presentations of watches as opposed to reviews?
Again not a criticism, others do this as well. I know Mark from Long Island Watch only talks about his Islander Line and occassionally other brands he sells, Frederico is another who focuses primarily on what they have in stock to sell. I am sure there are many others as well.
Probably, money talks
Thank you teddy for letting me know bout this one I've had if for a year and it's an amazing little piece. Now from my personal experience perhaps due to the shape of the case it feels like a 38 mm watch at least to me, it never feels too small and it has character.
My only complaint is when I pull the crown sometimes it feels as if there's a first position that doesn't engage the hands so they won't respond to me trying to set time, it's a bit fiddly I have to push it in and out "that's what she said" till I the hands respond.
Don't know if this is normal or I have a kind of a lemon.
Glad mineral crystal was used. Visibility vs scratch free, I will choose visibility.
I totally agree. I have a Tissot Visodate black dial and sapphire crystal, and it's a pain! Plus, the shiny crystal takes away a lot of its vintage flavour
Yes it is a little bit expensive but in the long run that won’t hurt....edit: I just purchased it...it’s just too gorgeous😻
That mineral cristal is stopping me from buying one 🫠, love love the design, like it more that my khaki field mechanical, but that stupid cristales
@@salvadorochoa2098 Yea same... It's the one reason that is stopping me from pulling the trigger. I already own the khaki field automatic as well, which is already an amazing watch. But this pilot one has a unique aesthetic.
This watch is a nod to a simpler time. Before the computer age. My wrist are smaller so this watch is a great addition to my collection of 1 now.
2 years later, how is your Pilot Pioneer holding up?
Im jealous 💜
Nice watch. Good alternative to a vintage military model. Good vid. Keep at it!
It is a sharp looking watch, used to own one, but have found the timefactors "Smiths" Navigator a more flexible variation of pilot watch, it's polished bezel is easier to dress up than this. Legibility wise, the mineral is outstanding.
Teddy, thank you so much for such great content!! Does this watch use a phantom/ghost date position? I noticed you specifically mentioned in your Hamilton Murph video that the Murph DOES NOT use a phantom/ghost date position for that watch, but you did not mention whether this watch (the Pilot Pioneer Mechanical) does or doesn’t have a phantom/ghost date position. Could you please let me know?
Would love see a review about the Longines Spirit collection, I feel like it is quite underrated !
There are two screws on balance wheel in order to regulate
Small piece, but the finishing looks great.
Great content as usual Teddy! Any possibility for a Graf Zeppelin review any time soon? He he he.
Its a little funny that Hamilton would market this as a pilots watch because of its small size. Traditionally what makes a pilots what is its largeness. This is more of a field watch in my eyes but maybe they're trying to differential the lines. Really tho, love the case shape - reminiscent of the semi-hooded lug like those in the 70s.
It's advertised as a pilot watch because of its history. Teddy already mentioned it was for the British MOD but specifically it was designed for the RAF. Compared to modern pilot watches it's definitely small but the fact it was issued to RAF pilots does give it that pedigree.
Vaer makes a 36mm small seconds field watch. Uses the ETA 7001, non hacking movement. About as close to a dirty dozens watch as you can get, minus the branding.
I held both this watch and the khaki… this one made the khaki feel cheap… plus the look is really cool… I had to buy it 😅😅😅
Very nice review. Really gives us a sense of the watch, as well as its appeal.
I absolutely love this watch! Do I go with the new blue or stay traditional black?
I just purchased the white dial, love it❤😊.
Hi Teddy, as always - thanks for another great review. Clear, concise, delivers the main pros and cons. I am in favor of the Hamilton khaki field 705050, a beautiful piece. waiting for a review! ...
For someone with small wrist 6" like me this look great. I have hard time finding small swiss watch at this price. Any recommendation?
Finally, you made it! Thanks! Great watch and enjoyable review!
Glad it's back!
I never thought I'd see a watch look small when side-by-side with a Field Mechanical. It's a really cool vintage-inspired timepiece, but not for me.
Have it, love it. It hugs my 6.5 inch wrist like no other. Love the tonneau case. The rough texture dial, though, is imperceptible and flat at eye level, that's how subtle it is in real life. Little disappointing tbh. But a great everyday watch, that brings something different. Out of all the watches I own, this one is the most accurate. I own double more expensive Longines and Oris, and this one is noticeably more accurate. Winding it every 3 days or so, feels soooooooooo good, the clicking sound is very satisfying. Difficult to explain, but it's like an old fashion fidget spinner. Big bang for buck, even if its not as cheap as the other khakis....but worth every penny.
I'll take the CWC MELLOR-72
$845 for a painted markers, fabric strap and mineral glass watch?! 🤔 Hamilton is sleeping on their laurels I think!
Haha definitely, this watch is worth 3 to 400 dollars maximum
What a shame you guys calling it before see in real life ..this watch has insane of finishing just a beautiful classical looks have this watch..
Acrylic and ~600 or sapphire and let it be 900 or so? I would definitely choose it over CWC Mellor-72 as Hammy has much nicer dial (IMO).
Na the CWC is gorgeous I have it , this looks ugly with that dial and the price is a joke ... This watch should be $300 to $400 max !!
A very excellent release from Hamilton!
What a beauty.
It needs a sapphire
Beautiful watch
Stunning watch.
I’m really at a complete loss as to how the Hamilton marketing department arrived at pricing this piece. The Khaki Field is basically the same watch for half the price, but just in a different case.
Ikr wth ! 🤦🏽♂️
i think the size? if ever they make a khaki field mechanical at 36mm they will sell it higher than the 38mm.
I think it might be almost like a “risk tax”. I’ve noticed this in other brands when they make something that is super faithful to an old design or a very niche piece in general. They’ll price it higher to make it a more worthwhile investment for them as they don’t anticipate selling that many. I’d imagine from a purely on paper sales perspective (which is what a marketing department deals in) a 36mm watch is less of a prospective hit than a 38-42mm so that might have something to do with it.
Love this piece great video
Lol 6:32 "eksetera"
I had my Khaki!
Crystal: mineral
Slow claps for Hamilton
They're similiar yet different but, personally, I'd rather own a Junghans Max Bill. Price-wise, they're about the same and share the same movement, if I'm not mistaken.
I find Hamiltons can be had for much less on the secondary market, more than others.
Would rather have hesalite or sapphire. Mineral crystal?
I like it and may consider it.
As always a great review
Luckily you can find this for about 680 US now, the original price was a little too high for what it is, still a really cool and interesting piece though
Seems pricy for manual wind and a dial without any applied markers.
a perfect vintage
Waiting for this with a saphire crystal...
$800+ for a hand-wind movement? Yeah, ok. But mineral crystal? No bueno. Otherwise it’s a great piece.
5:12 watch on the iPhone! R.I.P.
Teddy why you put the watch over iPhone 12 ? iPhone back has magnets the watch will magnetize
Great review. At least Hamilton didn't plaster KHAKI on the face. I wish that Hamilton would do away with the KHAKI logo altogether. For those that aren't sure their Hamilton is a KHAKI variant, perhaps Hamilton could engrave it on the case back.
That's a joke mineral glass? For 845 !?
I really want this watch for its aesthetic but its more expensive than the Khaki field auto which makes it seem like a bit of a rip off. If there was a valid reason why its more expensive then I would like to know.
CWC
Check out cwc g10.
what's the accuracy?
The specs are basically the same. Why is this $300 more... Beautiful watch, but other than the finish and cheaper crystal, I don't understand the price discrepancy.
Teddy, you need to relax a little bit, I would say. You are talking in this video twice as fast as an average human being. The entire message gets lost when you fire like a machine gun. Otherwise, thanks for one more video on a great watch and also thanks for your fantastic macro shots!
Thanks for the feedback. I tend to talk fast in general but I think the nature of cutting some of the pauses in the audio especially does not help either. I will work on it. Thanks for watching!
@@TeddyBaldassarreReviews I think you did fine Teddy 🤷🏻♂️
Omg I thought that the video was damage and I was listen at 1.5 speed but then I understood that he was speaking super fast. 😂
Eh I don’t mind
I noticed it is faster in this video but he has improved a lot in his newer videos .
wassup teddy!!! 😎✌️
look like a CWC watch, nice homage from hamilton, they did a better watch than the original
Mineral is a big turn off, indeed
Yes and I wish personally it was 38 mm
@@larsstougaard7097 yeah agree with you. I'm into small watches but between 36 and 38 i prefer 38
Still safe for swimming without a screw down crown
I really like this one but just seems a little pricey. Without sapphire crystal, the price doesn't seem to be justified in my opinion.
Just got it and put a brown leather strap on it, I am ALL ABOUT IT! cannot freaking stand any of the NATO or Hamilton leather bands it comes with though... Terrible marketing but fantastic unique piece!
This looks a lot like my grandfather’s watch.
This is a gorgeous watch. I'm not sure I understand Hamilton's choice of a mineral crystal with all the nice "boxed" sapphire crystals that are being used. With that said, why does Hamilton leave off anti-reflective coatings on so many of their field style watches? My most worn timepiece over the last 8 years has been a (hard to find) 40mm hand wind Khaki Field Mechanical. I absolutely love the watch but the lack of an anti-reflective coating drives me crazy sometimes. How much would this feature cost Hamilton...a few extra dollars? I would even gladly pay a little more for this. As usual, fantastic review Teddy.
Awesome piece!
PILOT PIONEER MECHANICAL
Does lume even age?
Bruh no sapphire for that price
Enjoy the field watch reviews. Would like to see a review of the Momentum Atlas 38mm. Titanium case, sapphire crystal, 100m water resistance, Seiko VX32G quartz movement for under $200. Thanks
I would buy it if it had a sapphire crystal
Hamilton modifying the movement like that across their line; is almost a deal killer. Few private watch makers are going to be set up to regulate them. And, if they are; they are going to hit you heavy.
Teddy, you’re gonna burn out at this rate.
$845?!? Damn.
Accuracy +11 seconds per day.
this Hamilton is much more sellable than Archie's unsellable phateks!!!
Too small and this is coming from somebody who is completely wrist size conscious. I have tiny wrist's however this Hamilton could have been so much more if it was 38 instead of 36. In turn it would have had a wider lug width making for a more eye catching watch. It is a good watch that could have been a very, very good watch.
Not every watch has to be 38, it’s compactness is what makes it unique. Plus it’s a historical homage to the W10 which was a little watch. Plenty of options for 38mm Hamilton, I’m glad to see some added variety here.
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This one has sapphire not mineral as mentioned in the video.
Aviation Pilot? As opposed to a diver pilot?
Please can you slow down, it's getting the the point where I can't understand you!
Way too small …I just can’t do it
Mineral crystal at this price point? Sad
overpriced for what it offers=cash grap
Too much coffee Teddy, chill out man. You started in a hurry. I find new vintage style watches rather ‘last year’....
$600. in Amazon as we speak. Hey calm down, no need to speed talk.