Bakugan Size Doesn’t Matter.

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @JettKuso
    @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +44

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    • @jayclampitt1161
      @jayclampitt1161 7 месяцев назад

      I actually got base doomlings for Christmas, it is a lot of fun.

    • @yuwu585
      @yuwu585 7 месяцев назад +4

      A good example of my favourite genre of JettKuso's videos: Video About Toy that becomes a Doctor Who speech near the end

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@yuwu585 unbelievably kind statement wow

    • @TheDepressedOne-the1st
      @TheDepressedOne-the1st 7 месяцев назад +1

      😮

    • @bluefirefoxowo
      @bluefirefoxowo 6 месяцев назад

      I use to have a giant dragonoid no clue what happened to it though
      However I just remembered that I had a see through pyros nillious

  • @notdaniel2005
    @notdaniel2005 7 месяцев назад +697

    Remember friends, it's not the size of the Bakugan that matters. It's how you brawl it

    • @DiglettsOtherHalf
      @DiglettsOtherHalf 7 месяцев назад +38

      Remember what Yugi's grandpa said: "A brawls not over until the last bakugan is thrown."

    • @haosmagnaingram6992
      @haosmagnaingram6992 7 месяцев назад +16

      It’s not the size of the bakugan in the brawl it’s the size of the brawl in the bakugan

    • @luiscarrillo6039
      @luiscarrillo6039 7 месяцев назад +3

      That's what she said

    • @aidenlegobatman
      @aidenlegobatman 6 месяцев назад +1

      I was expecting someone to take this comment out of context, and reading the reply one row above this one does it in a way that isn't inappropriate.

    • @ThatOneOleDude
      @ThatOneOleDude 6 месяцев назад +2

      yea, if its big just throw it at someone and its ez win

  • @CSK_T.
    @CSK_T. 7 месяцев назад +446

    Most ballsy episode opening ever.

  • @switchbro6622
    @switchbro6622 7 месяцев назад +260

    Bakugan: goes from tiny to slightly less tiny
    Beyblade: let’s make it weigh double the amount and double the size in between seasons

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio 7 месяцев назад +20

      I'm kinda hoping Beyblade X doesn't get too much bigger for Season 2. I like how they are right now.

    • @haversonferris1825
      @haversonferris1825 6 месяцев назад +9

      beywheel: we said fuck it and remade our brand

    • @dudesayshi2191
      @dudesayshi2191 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@OtakuUnitedStudio likely they'll go for gimmicks with s2 like they do with burst god

    • @nullpoint3346
      @nullpoint3346 2 месяца назад

      Metal Series was the best.

  • @rotomfan63
    @rotomfan63 7 месяцев назад +140

    Given how ultras are known for doing flips when opening deca ultras sounds like a home alone trap for both people around it and the toy itself

  • @Napping-dragon
    @Napping-dragon 7 месяцев назад +140

    When I was a kid, I had a B1 Bakugan and almost swallowed it like it was halfway down my throat swallowed. I had to actually barf it off. I can see why they made them a bit bigger. I was a dumb kid.

    • @mason_mwm4890
      @mason_mwm4890 6 месяцев назад +7

      nah this comment got me laughing!!

    • @flashspidergamer5629
      @flashspidergamer5629 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@mason_mwm4890he almost died what the fudge

  • @MaissumSyd
    @MaissumSyd 7 месяцев назад +115

    Came for Bakugan, left with a deeper understanding of the universe... Thanks for the mind flips!

  • @ninjiumz6849
    @ninjiumz6849 7 месяцев назад +11

    Man, I cant believe that Ive followed you for a couple years now, and you continue to pull me in many different ways.
    In all seriousness, Jett, because of you, I went back into my storage to find my Bakugan and collect more. You reminded me of how much I love these spring loaded marbles, and I still try to buy some of the ones that made my childhood, especially the missing attributes I need for my collection of my favorite Bakugan, Sirenoid.
    Thank you man, for unlocking childhood memories.

  • @Andressabs2805
    @Andressabs2805 7 месяцев назад +50

    Man, I entered the video looking for silly ball-monsters and ended with a reality check and an existensial conundrum, truly RUclips at it's finest

  • @astrangerontheinternet5500
    @astrangerontheinternet5500 7 месяцев назад +29

    After 10,000 years
    We finally have another Bakugan video…

  • @CJWproductions
    @CJWproductions 7 месяцев назад +38

    What spells can you cast, now that you've spent so long pondering the orb?

  • @Dippson24
    @Dippson24 3 месяца назад +3

    I came back to your channel out of nostalgia. Dude, the ending made me tear up. I would've never expected this sorta feeling from a "silly" video about cool ass sphere monsters that I used to collect as a kid. Great work and I'm definitely gonna watch more of your content.

  • @rellko3900
    @rellko3900 7 месяцев назад +12

    “Sometimes things are big, and sometimes things are small - JettKuso” should be part of your merch line

  • @jayebargeman
    @jayebargeman 7 месяцев назад +3

    I absolutely loved the message at the end 😊❤ I came to see the different sizes of Bakugan, stayed, and saw someone spread love and joy, it cant get better than that

  • @tagarelandocomlevylevy7385
    @tagarelandocomlevylevy7385 7 месяцев назад +6

    I so happy that jett come back to post videos

  • @Europa_ong
    @Europa_ong 7 месяцев назад +9

    I’m not gunna lie, even though I’m not to familiar with most of the things you cover, except transformers, I still watch these videos for the special meaning that always is present somehow.

  • @sobbleco6248
    @sobbleco6248 7 месяцев назад +12

    The ball shape is very underrated :)

  • @christophercantalope3736
    @christophercantalope3736 7 месяцев назад +15

    Thank God its a jett kuso vid

    • @TheCommentWars
      @TheCommentWars 7 месяцев назад

      Balls: biggest to smallest💀💀

  • @Onyxs
    @Onyxs 7 месяцев назад +4

    I love the B1 size, just feels so nice and classic and has a fun charm to it that the later ones don’t have.

  • @ebmario874
    @ebmario874 7 месяцев назад +21

    *Me, having grown a comically long grey beard and eyebrows sitting in an old rocking chair:*
    "Where have you been sonny?"

  • @collinwhite5046
    @collinwhite5046 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great video Jett! :D Love getting to hear you gush about the aesthetics of Bakugan.

  • @Korn-kg5np
    @Korn-kg5np 7 месяцев назад +2

    I’m always ways surprised and impressed by how deep your videos hit they always make me feel more happy and optimistic

  • @evanartist8060
    @evanartist8060 7 месяцев назад +3

    First new video after subbing! Literally within a few days you have reignited my love of this series and got my customizing and collecting brain running full force as I try to finish my New Vestroia collection and plan to repaint them in anime colors…my wallet on the other hand hates everything. 😂 but serious, thank you for your amazing content

  • @user-wb1jw9xx7e
    @user-wb1jw9xx7e 7 месяцев назад +3

    I thought about this stuff a lot, never used bakugan as an analogy though, thank you Jett, it was a delightful video. It really is about taking it all in.

  • @AlexReynard
    @AlexReynard 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yup. I have a B1 Hynoid. Adorable li'l pup! Such tiny feets!

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +1

      I love hynoid SO much. Sucks there isn’t a b2 version tbh.

  • @quartz97
    @quartz97 3 месяца назад +1

    I had one red Bakugan growing up. It was just one of the many random toys my parents would find for cheap at garage sales, but I always kept it around.
    There's just something magical about how the original designs managed to turn tiny little marbles into recognizable figures.

  • @jeremyharrison4778
    @jeremyharrison4778 7 месяцев назад +1

    10:18 lol had that exact bluish one as a kid and loved it. Think my Bakugan collection though pretty small consists of mostly G1 though not 100% sure. Great video though. Didn’t know a Bakugan community still exists. Everyone at my school was into them when I was a kid and it’s probably my favorite of those types of games.

  • @yblob5872
    @yblob5872 7 месяцев назад +17

    You went from funny toy video to existential dred and then ending it of with a hopeful uplifting message,
    I might have to file for assault and batery with the amount of gut punches you just throw

  • @Robotato
    @Robotato 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wow JettKuso always knocks it out of the park with his videos, like wow that was fun and insightful.

  • @Chemzborgor
    @Chemzborgor 7 месяцев назад +4

    I bought my first bakugan in years, and im pretty stoked to get more transforming balls

  • @dland25
    @dland25 7 месяцев назад +2

    I’m a fairly new subscriber but I am just enraptured by the storytelling weaving existentialism with fun children games! Love this style of video being fun informative and very ballsy to boot!
    I would’ve thought the zuru mini brands gans would’ve been mentioned for being so smol but I guess they don’t count enough lol

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +2

      AW I TOTALLY WOULDA INCLUDED THAT! I’d ever heard of it till now!

  • @Itslazi
    @Itslazi 7 месяцев назад +5

    where was the counter for "times the bind system has been mentioned in videos not about the bind system"? i miss it....

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +2

      I forgor… It still counts though, I have updated the tally

    • @Itslazi
      @Itslazi 7 месяцев назад

      @@JettKuso yaaaaaay

  • @DarkDragonoid
    @DarkDragonoid 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hey there jett kuso! Thanks for being so awesome, you've inspired me to make my own videos now, which will start soon. Thanks for being a legend 🔥💯

  • @bigfan10-gaming79
    @bigfan10-gaming79 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderfully Deep Jett, this video was wonderful

  • @EtronX348
    @EtronX348 7 месяцев назад +2

    After all these years, and I still love bakugan

  • @stefanmihailv5475
    @stefanmihailv5475 6 месяцев назад +1

    Jett I love you you feed the inner child in me and make my soul life tested self happy , I'm 23 now and when I was a child I loved bakugan and my entire collection was stolen and forgotten like 50+ bakugans and now you motivated me to search and find some 1st clas dragonoids ? Tigrera , hydra etc like almost 20 yo bakugans that's insane I never thought I would gold a drago again , also I bought some new generation weird cool 3 head dragonoid with light inside lol

  • @VoidCraftGaming
    @VoidCraftGaming 7 месяцев назад

    7:58 I remember that lol I got one when I was a kid I have many memories of playing with it lol younger me loved it, it has broken unfortunately, I do have its remains somewhere tho.

  • @loganstynes8738
    @loganstynes8738 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a Tigrerra transforming keychain that works with pulling a peg instead of pushing a button, and I think its somewhere between mcgons and b3s

  • @dimansionseven5863
    @dimansionseven5863 7 месяцев назад +4

    I clicked on this video expecting a fun informative video. And i still get that, but I also gets an important lesson, or more like a reinforcements on my beliefs, that bigger is indeed isn't better...
    Which is why I'm proud to be flat

  • @yumithlw
    @yumithlw 7 месяцев назад +1

    I've been watching your channel, interesting that you returned now!

  • @drazzie22
    @drazzie22 7 месяцев назад +1

    great video

  • @kelavia2112
    @kelavia2112 4 месяца назад +3

    Maybe the real bakugan was the friends we made along the way

    • @AiveGi
      @AiveGi 4 месяца назад

      nope. ITS THE POWER OF THE UNIVERSAL BALL-KUGAN! (get it?)

  • @Brodingander
    @Brodingander 7 месяцев назад +1

    And to think that a video about balls could teach us such an important lesson, good job Jett, amazing video

  • @thedaftbrothers
    @thedaftbrothers 7 месяцев назад +1

    Jett, I came back from the middle of the woods in a valley deep from society to watch this. it was pretty good yeah

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +1

      As I had hoped… Now you are vulnerable to my cyber attacks.

    • @thedaftbrothers
      @thedaftbrothers 7 месяцев назад

      @@JettKuso I've been had!

  • @Mywiredmike
    @Mywiredmike 5 месяцев назад +1

    Some parts of this give V-Sauce energy in the best way and I'm here for it. Awesome video!

  • @Ledshot
    @Ledshot 7 месяцев назад +2

    Damn, that ending was really deep for a Friday morning.

  • @fableagain
    @fableagain 6 месяцев назад +2

    Wait, hold on... Is Bakugan actually.... Cool? And fun??? Did I just fall into the rabbit hole???

  • @AsperGoat
    @AsperGoat 7 месяцев назад +6

    Did you... did you just recite my philosophy?

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +4

      Specifically your’s.

    • @AsperGoat
      @AsperGoat 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@JettKuso it's more like you managed articulate with words something i couldn't prior

  • @YershJRSZ
    @YershJRSZ 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm waiting for the material about every single wave of the og bakugan, and I don't mean the battle brawlers, nv, etc, but the actual waves like this one introduced fear ripper, falconeer, etc.
    IIRC, OG Dragonoid wasn't here from the exact start and the rest of main cast appeared around the same time as Delta & Dual because of anime.

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад

      Oh man, I would be vastly under qualified to make that video

  • @Poorleeno
    @Poorleeno 6 месяцев назад +3

    The kid screaming guy crying voice over made me laugh way to hard

  • @michaelkerr7696
    @michaelkerr7696 7 месяцев назад +1

    Absolute banger of a video 🔥🔥🔥

  • @ScarlettCaelin
    @ScarlettCaelin 7 месяцев назад +2

    All of my B1 bakugan have broken except for one. My Pyrus Dragonoid B1 is still in mostly working order.

  • @יובלאדלר-ק7כ
    @יובלאדלר-ק7כ 7 месяцев назад

    Deng, watching this ending at 3:33 in the morning really makes you think...
    Nice job👍

  • @jonathanhernandez5007
    @jonathanhernandez5007 7 месяцев назад +1

    Finally!!!! A bakugan video :)

  • @digitaltailsmon4096
    @digitaltailsmon4096 7 месяцев назад

    8:38 Never saw these as a kid but I want one! You are so wrong! They look awesome! Plus it's both a Bakugan Action figure that also can turn into a ball! That's so cool!

  • @FireStorm5713
    @FireStorm5713 3 месяца назад

    I have a B1 Reaper that, up until recently, would not open because the magnet got disconnected from the mechanism, so it would just connect to the card without opening. About a month ago I decided to try and see if I could get it working properly, and after half an hour of fiddling with it, I got it reattached and working.

  • @ComaGirl100
    @ComaGirl100 7 месяцев назад +1

    Vistroya was just one giant bakugan all along. With a huge Baku di-

  • @Bakumasters
    @Bakumasters 7 месяцев назад +2

    I remember finding a McDonalds Dharak at a sale that a local church was having a sale, but is it rare?

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад

      Not rare or valuable, I'm afraid!

  • @guncannon109
    @guncannon109 7 месяцев назад +1

    That was surely alot more profound than I was expecting a Bakugan video to be...

  • @Dcraft_TNT
    @Dcraft_TNT 7 месяцев назад +2

    I miss how Fencer was so cute but so overlooked

  • @KudaGeatsune3821
    @KudaGeatsune3821 7 месяцев назад

    Surprisingly enlightening and chill for video named
    Bakugan+crisis

  • @joemakesmodels6640
    @joemakesmodels6640 7 месяцев назад +2

    Nothing beats the feel of the original b1

  • @seanh2785
    @seanh2785 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video!

  • @christopherford39
    @christopherford39 7 месяцев назад +10

    Hey Jett, quick question: Why weren't you a part of the Bak-Again livestream? Also(sorry if this is getting annoying), are you going to finish the gen 3 show? All that aside can't wait to see which bakugan is the smallest and which is the biggest

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +14

      Wasn’t invited, and didn’t know it was happening! Though TBH I’m not sure if I would’ve attended or not. No slander to anyone involved.
      I think the (alleged) cancellation is too recent for a grassroots ‘bring it back’ campaign to have any effect. If the bigwigs thing it needs to rest, maybe it does… And unless the creative direction of the brand turns around hard and fast (which would be uncommon to do without yet another reboot), I might agree with the bigwigs.

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +9

      OH AND YES, I do intend to finish watching the show, just hasn't been time in the schedule to stream.

    • @christopherford39
      @christopherford39 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@JettKuso okay thanks for letting me know

    • @Bakutalk
      @Bakutalk 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@JettKusoreally sorry I couldn’t invite you Jett. We had already quite the stacked roster and also thought you were too busy with Cinema SMP. Next time though we would love to have you!

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +5

      @@Bakutalk No worries! You're always welcome to reach out, and I'll be honest if I can fit it into my schedule.

  • @calebmcclure3893
    @calebmcclure3893 6 месяцев назад +1

    That introduction was 🔥🔥

  • @theaxeoftorabolt7073
    @theaxeoftorabolt7073 7 месяцев назад

    I once had a giant bakugan trap when I was younger as well as a giant fear ripper sadly I think I lost them or I forgot about them in storage for a really long time to the point that have no idea if they are useable anymore

  • @SkimoStories
    @SkimoStories 7 месяцев назад +2

    Damn stop making the closing statements of these videos hit SO hard wtf I thought this was a Bakugan vid

    • @SkimoStories
      @SkimoStories 7 месяцев назад +2

      I say that with great reverence btw, well done, if albeit a bit overthought

  • @LuxLoser
    @LuxLoser 6 месяцев назад

    I don't know why this appeared in my recommendations, but it has unlocked childhood memories. I have some "B1s" in my garage storage I think.

  • @AlexReynard
    @AlexReynard 7 месяцев назад +1

    My envy at you having a Drathron is off the goddam planet.

  • @siriuslylucid
    @siriuslylucid 7 месяцев назад +4

    18:40 jettkuso turned into vsauce

  • @TheRuhutta
    @TheRuhutta 6 месяцев назад

    I don't know how this popped up on my front page... but man I haven't even thought about my bakugan toys in SOOOOO long. Man what a nostalgia rush, great video man!

  • @ESw0rdsman
    @ESw0rdsman 7 месяцев назад

    One of the favorite of the Bakugan I have, for how unique it was (and actually had rulings to make it compatable with gameplay) is the White Naga; which game with the Videogamw.

  • @LegendOfTheFLame393
    @LegendOfTheFLame393 6 месяцев назад +1

    A wierd thing i remember is giant beyblades and RC giant beyblades also existed around when giant Bakugan existed

  • @don.3s
    @don.3s 6 месяцев назад +1

    This video was way different than i expected... Nice quality

  • @jakneez
    @jakneez 7 месяцев назад

    The ending was so good :)

  • @ASLB247
    @ASLB247 6 месяцев назад

    Honestly, I still love the Deka Bakugans for the sake of having a big bakugan. I’m not someone who played the game, so I didn’t have to worry about using them. I think the deka bakugan are probably best as display pieces that happen to be robust toys were enough for my child mind to be excited, and the deka battle gear and Neo Dragonoid Vortex that are not only bigger versions of some of my favorite toys, but actually function (much better than the normal size in Vortex’s case) was enough to make me want them.
    Also, god if I got a DraThron when I was a kid, I would’ve thought it was the coolest thing in the world. And I still think it’s the coolest of the capstone bakugan.

  • @jonjones4473
    @jonjones4473 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video

  • @Shadowlily1112
    @Shadowlily1112 7 месяцев назад +2

    When i clicked on the silly bakugan video i didn't expect philosophy on the universe

  • @o_mateuscampos
    @o_mateuscampos 2 месяца назад

    I've never played the game and must have watched around five episodes of the anime, but just found three of these silly little guys in a childhood toys box and now I'm invested.

  • @Anihilion
    @Anihilion 7 месяцев назад +1

    I discovered your channel 4 days ago, I am totally in your content! Which bakugan series was your favourite? For me it's New Vestroia definetely, and my favourite bakugan is Alpha Hydranoid and yours?

    • @JettKuso
      @JettKuso  7 месяцев назад +1

      Season 1 Battle Brawlers baybee. Best Bakugan though? G-Ganorada.

  • @dr.michaelpines.1803
    @dr.michaelpines.1803 7 месяцев назад

    I used to have a B1 and B2 of the same Pyrus Stinglash. Wish I still had all my old Bakugan

  • @kevintran1046
    @kevintran1046 7 месяцев назад

    Me: sweeeet finally another video
    Me at the end: you know what I will punch myself for that promotion

  • @SeriouslyNotASpy
    @SeriouslyNotASpy 7 месяцев назад

    Friendship is one of the coolest things in the universe

  • @Brock-brock
    @Brock-brock 7 месяцев назад

    19:30 if this were a Bakugan, it would have to be fear ripper, or that one white Bakugan from the first series

  • @JoseELeon
    @JoseELeon 7 месяцев назад +1

    It's not a jettkuso video if it doesn't get incredibly deep by the end

  • @santibang8764
    @santibang8764 6 месяцев назад +1

    17:22 maybe it's possible. We are in need of Quantum Bakugans! Is the bakugan opend or closed? Who knows? Maybe both, maybe neither

  • @SylviaMoonbeam1127
    @SylviaMoonbeam1127 7 месяцев назад

    lol that intro be like “hi, I’d like my BakuMeal with a side of existential crisis”

  • @AuraKnight-kn1ux
    @AuraKnight-kn1ux 7 месяцев назад +1

    Jettkuso you sir ARE INSANE!!!!!!!!

  • @Rafa-rt9vw
    @Rafa-rt9vw 7 месяцев назад

    Traduzir textos com a câmera
    Whenever I see a video com Jett, I get an inexplicable nostalgia, today I finally managed to buy my favorite bakugan from the first generation and you always remind me of why I love this franchise
    thank you

  • @partymantis3421
    @partymantis3421 5 дней назад

    The opening could pass off as the midseason loredump of Bakugans future 77th reboot

  • @nethanielpetrillo9537
    @nethanielpetrillo9537 7 месяцев назад +1

    I still own some B2 size Bakugan from the OG series and I own a lot of B3 size Bakugan from gens 2 and 3 of the Bakugan reboots, I used to own some OG deka Bakugan back then but now I don't, the only deka I own is the deka diamond pyrus core dragonoid from battle planet, also I do own two McDonalds Bakugan toys to this day, also I do own two nanogans as well, overall 10/10 on this video Jettkuso

  • @xxMonkeyman2142xx
    @xxMonkeyman2142xx 7 месяцев назад

    when thinking about kids and the toy market remember that it's often given as a gift from an adult. If an unknowable adult sees the toy as the better option, it can have a fair shot in the market. ultimately the kid is what asks for the toy but strangely it is better for the toy company if the kid asks for something and the kid isn't satisfied with the first gift, they will keep asking for the one they actually want. at least that's a theory.

  • @lozmaster6441
    @lozmaster6441 6 месяцев назад +1

    Anybody else remember the"jumbo" bakugan you could get from McDonald's happy meals?
    I said this before he started talking about decas,I am redundant

  • @TornaitSuperBird
    @TornaitSuperBird 7 месяцев назад

    I had a few of the McDonald's Bakugan. They were highly valued as social currency in elementary school.

  • @damemeboi21
    @damemeboi21 7 месяцев назад +1

    HES BACK

  • @Impulse001
    @Impulse001 7 месяцев назад +2

    In our hearts of hearts, we all are balls.

  • @nanase823
    @nanase823 6 месяцев назад

    I'm having a bad day, Then I saw this video in my recommendations. It made my day less bad... Great video btw just subscribed, Here's for more Thank you !

  • @dalecharleston8318
    @dalecharleston8318 7 месяцев назад +1

    Damn this video hits why is bigger better for real and damn that ending hit

  • @JuanMunzerAsakura
    @JuanMunzerAsakura 7 месяцев назад +2

    Alright that's the JettKuso yearly quota of Bakugan Videos. When's the Bionicle 2004 video coming out?

  • @BlamoStramo
    @BlamoStramo 7 месяцев назад

    I really love how you're just not gonna talk about gen 3 again