Northern Vosges biking roads & executed secret agents: Vosges History Roadtrip Part 4
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Grimness warning: this video includes a tour of a concentration camp.
I'll take you around some of the awful history of the Natzweiler-Struthof concentration camp before heading into Germany via some de-restricted Autobahn, and along the way I'll find out whether the Northern Vosges region has biking roads to rival those in the south. Thanks for watching this four-part series, and for sticking with it through the darker parts.
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An utterly vile regime and of utmost importance that sites like this are preserved no matter how uncomfortable and appalled they make us feel.
Good video Tim.
Agreed, thank you. If you could tell that to the pearl-clutching American tourist who told me how disrespectful it was that I was filming in the camp...
@@timrodierides Jeeeeeezzzz
And I bet if you asked them to say why it was disrespectful, they couldn't.
@@timrodierides FFS! They seem to have missed the whole point!! :(
@@timrodierides I sort of get it. I think it entirely depends on how you're filming. Doing selfies, self promotion, or doing star jumps, laying across the train tracks, etc is a definite no no. My own view is the horrific descriptions of what went on should be emphasised more. I think we're getting to the stage of the media sanitising those atrocities making them sound no worse than speeding, because speeding is a really horrendous offence these days!
Wait until you hear about the regime that first invented concentration camps...
Important history to keep alive Tim. Yes it is dark, but people should remember what atrocities were done not that long ago. Thank you!
Loved that series Tim - thanks for taking us along! More soon please!!
Its been an interesting series of videos. You should put together a plan of the route you took and places visited so other people could follow it for there own adventure.
Tim, you present this history stuff so well! More of these history from a motorcycle series please.. my humble opinion is your channel would grow a lot if you focus on this style?
Quality production Tim. You didn't over egg the dark bits either as the pictures said it all. What an adventure. Very inspiring.
Excellent series! With everything we are experiencing in the world today, those dark days are perhaps not so distant. When I woke up this morning, little did I know I’d shed a tear watching a bike video. Great work, and I’m sure I’d not be alone in suggesting you do more bike / history tours. Well done, Sir. 🏴
You were made for RUclips production. 👏 Detroit, Michigan Yank here, found you via your BMW R 1250 RT video (just purchased my 2023 two weeks ago). Just now finished your four(?) Vosges videos--❤ Looking forward to bingeing on the rest of your library.
Best motorbike touring series I’ve watched. Fabulous Tim, thank you!
That made me smile - thank you very much Richard!
Fantastic series Tim, top work!! :) Thanks for bringing us both some summer bike entertainment but also some important history that should not be forgotten!! I've taken my kids to Tyne Cot and the Menin Gate as I think it's important we ensure they understand what went on and continue to appreciate and remember those who helped ensure we have the freedoms we continue to enjoy today! I'm sure you'll do the same with your girls when they are old enough.
I usually blast past most of these sites when on the bike, so it's really good to visit them vicariously, and WILL stop off there some time and spend the time they deserve there!! The North Voges are decent enough, but as you say, they are more for getting there/getting back home than a destination in themselves...
This is an amazing series of videos Tim. the amazing motorcycling roads aside, the historic content is portrayed without bias and judgement - man’s inhumanity towards man - well put together. Lest we forget! whoever or whatever they fought for, the thousands upon thousands from all sides lost because they were fighting for a “cause”. May they rest in peace...
Thank you - and spot on.
Tim such an important piece of our history which we must not forget. Keep up the excellent work and HNY
Totally agree. HNY to you too Gary!
10/10 👍🏻
Thought provoking and amusing in equal measure.
I avoid those places, as I find the horrors just too disturbing in person 😢
Cheers Tim and HNY🍻
My goodness this was really touching Tim, I've just been discussing with my riding pal and we are going to change our plans to visit this camp and ride some of the great roads you have highlighted. Very, very much appreciated
Ah if nothing else I was hoping this would put the area on more people's radars. Let us know how your trip goes!
I’m a big fan of your bike (and car) vids, but I honestly think you could do a great line specifically in poignant historical tours too.
Gotta say I’m really enjoying this (if that’s the right way to describe such a topic).
The historical aspect was stunning Tim thank you for that trip! I hope your dad heals up well. Hopefully we can get a Tim and Father Rodie trip through more historic places.
Lets hope for better luck next time eh ?
@@trophyian that's right!
Many, many thanks for the uploads, Tim. I have loved watching this mini series! The history you have included is fascinating. You have really sparked my interest to get back on two wheels.
All the best for 2024!
Many thanks for watching too! Happy new year :)
Aww mate. Came here from your 'car' channel following your latest video. Now THIS is the sort of content i am looking for. A brilliant mix all delivered with your trademark wit.
A great little series. Thank you. Seems to me given recent barbarism in Israel, Nigeria and Russia/Ukraine we've not learned lessons from history. Roadie rides with history really like it.
Yeah, it's a bit depressing isn't it? Echoes of things that didn't really happen all that long ago. Thank you for watching
Wonderful series Tim. Clever mix of bike tour/history lesson delivered in your inimitable style that made me laugh on occasions and tear up on others. More please.
Excellent video, Tim. Felt like I was right there with you. My solo trip last year (inspired by you!) was unforgettable. Thanks!
Simply amazing series. This bike is awesome, but you keep us entertained with great interest and humor. Kind regards
Thank you - I really appreciate the kind words. Hopefully I'll do more in 2024
Absolutely enjoyed this series, sir! The combination of riding and sightseeing is a joy to watch and yields good inspiration for my own upcoming trips!
Nice work Tim. Superb in every way.
Loved the history stuff. We stumbled across the one you did on the first day a few years ago, but only stopped briefly. I must go back and look around it . I'm touring on my own this year, so perfect for geeking out on stuff without boring anyone else.
I know what you mean - touring on my own left me with far more time to explore the little bits and pieces I stumbled upon
Cheers Tim, very entertaining. The history bits for me are your USP and I like ‘em. I’ve been to the Vosges a few times but had no idea there were concentration camps there. Will check them out in 2024 I hope and will do my best to honour the fallen.
Love this mini series Tim. This particular episode had me a little emotional.
Great series Tim and I thought you did an excellent job of describing the horrors of the concentration camp, had me welling up tbh! Visiting places like this should be compulsory education for young people to remind them of the consequences of extremism, whatever side of the divide it is. Thanks again for doing such a great and sensitive job.
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this series of videos covering your trip of the Vosges. You have inspired me to make a visit myself. Best wishes to Ian, I hope to see him riding with you in the future.
Thanks! If he can keep a motorbike upright for more than 30 seconds I'll let him come along next time ;) Thanks for watching!
😂 He does have form tbh.
Followed your example Tim and did this trip with Pete who I know has chatted with you a few times! An awesome and inspiring set of videos well worth the effort!
Hi Tim. Great series, I've really enjoyed it. You are setting a benchmark for me to aspire to. I'm loving the history segments.
You set something of a benchmark, I think, in the aspect of motovlogs not always having to be lah dee dah. Great that you show what actually interests you despite of the views. I am always ashamed when I find out time and time again how little I know of the historic facts of horrors mankind apparently are capable of and still are. Although ignorant to an acceptable level, I am not one to turn his head away, but we should always be aware of what’s lurking beneath the surface. Not in fear, but inspired to bring the positive and actually act when we see practice that defies the ethics of mankind. And enjoy riding motorcycles whilst doing that, because it’s our freedom. Something once worth giving your life for.
Loved your travelogue history mash up Tim, more please!
Brilliant Tim. 👍
Thanks Mike!
Cheers Tim thanks for bringing us along 😉
really enjoyed watching all four videos 👍🏍
Great series
I really enjoyed the history lessons
Thank you :)
Great series. Never forget.
Fantastic , loved all the content. Pity the bikes engine gets so hot when riding at legal speeds, otherwise I’d look at getting one.
I look fwd to more of these trips in Europe.
Well done, and thank you 🍻
Very enjoyable series, more of this!
New subscriber can't think how I haven't come across your channel before the other day. Great little series, wife and I did a euro tour based on band of brothers and I've ridden a round trip to Auschwitz so really enjoyed the added history segments👍
Great video series, and the history made the series better 👍🏻
Great series, I'm not a WW1 or WW2 fan, so to speak, buti did find the bits you did, very interesting.
The bike bits were cool too 😎 😂
Thank you. Interesting and easy to watch/listen. Keep it up. I might even go for one of those burgers...i'll give the potato lasagne a miss!!
Loved the series and found the site visits very interesting, if not incredibly sombering. I’m looking at doing a similar trip this coming spring.
Keep up the great content!
Fascinating and interesting video… History and Motorbike just happen to be my favourite hobbies. This video ticked all the boxes. Happy new year mate 🤓😎🤘🏻
Love the history stops!
Loads of 'roads' vids out there. A great series, I should really just bugger off for a few days. Its thebgeneral wittering and arse talk that we arehere for.
Really great tour. Hopefully I will be brave enough to do that in the summer. Keep them coming.
Thanks! No need to be brave, just book a Eurotunnel or ferry crossing and set your sat-nav/phone to the Vosges!
Great series Tim, top man
The last series of roads may not have been the most exciting for you, but you find new and interesting places by taking the road less traveled. You never have to apologize for bringing us some history, because we must never forget. The German word for yogurt filled bread rolls…..”🤮”!
Thanks
Thank you dear! Appreciate it :)
I loved these vids Tim. Defiantly going to be doing a trip down there in the spring. I just bought a 890 smt, that i will pick up in Feb... Cant wait.....😁😁😁
Great to see your comments about A Life in Secrets. I always try to visit the memorial to Noor Inayat Khan (murdered in Dachau) whenever I am in Paris. It's important not to forget the terrible sacrifices these women made.
Very interesting series, well presented. Always good to remember and learn from man's inhumanity to man in all its forms. Sometimes it seems we're doomed to repeat history as new generations tend to forget or idealise the past.
Not only are the roads super smooth, but the camber is also properly engineered and positive. A+ for the engineers.
Great style of series, although the camp aspects were a touch harrowing with my New Year's hangover! Thanks for bringing us on the tour!
Haha yes I didn't really plan the scheduling very well! Thank you :)
The point Tim when you said did I take my disk lock off 😂 I remember on my Italy trip in August I left it on and 1M forward fell off the bike. Oops
I've never done it, but there's a first time for everything. I just hope I catch it on camera when I do...
Brilliant video, keep up the good work 👍
Thanks Sean! More planned for 2024 :)
Great content, you deserve many more subscribers with these entertaining videos
Thanks Steve, I'm working on it 😂
Amazing adventure, fascinating history and wonderful introduction to new biking roads. I love touring on my own as a chance to get away and indulge and this adventure had it all. Thanks so much
Keep the tours coming. Love it especially the history content.
Found your channel with this series Tim and thoroughly enjoyed the blend of history and biking - thanks.....Do you happen to have the gpx file of your route available?
Loved the history👍
Also, you're right, when you travel in a group, you tend not to get into much conversation with others/locals. You only REALLY get a proper feel for a place when you travel alone (or perhaps just one other), and THEN people really do chat to you on another level! :) I love taking my group on trips, but there are major pluses and minuses to both approaches!! :) I've yet to be brave enough to do a Euro trip alone, but it might just happen sooner rather than later... but... who really knows... ;) :) :D
Great series. Thanks !
Thank you sir
Really enjoyed all the historical landmarks - well done!
Much enjoyed thank you. 🙏🏻
Very interesting,thks.
Brilliant vid series thanks Tim for all your hard work and the history although very sad but so important that it gets spoken about.
Really enjoyed the entire series. The concentration camp stuff was tough to watch but fascinating in its own way. Thanks for making this 🙂
Thoroughly enjoyable. I have been doing solo trips for the past few years and enjoy them for all the reasons you pointed out. Trying to herd others to arrange the same weekend/week away is too much of a faff these days. I add a visit of some sort during the trip for some human interaction but I find solo riding with some tunes very good for the soul. Looking forward to your next jaunt 👍
I thought the bit with the concentration camp was really interesting & i thought you rushed thru it a bit - i get it though - a delicate subject, but like you i find that part of history fascinating !
Enjoyed it bud …the roads are nice but it’s the destinations that make the journey ..
Much respect to you 🥰🙏
Another excellent video, you have got me thinking I was going to plan a trip to wales this year but maybe I will look into doing a similar trip.
I've enjoyed the series.
Not forgotten
Superb video series, Tim. Last year you inspired a trip to the Vosges, now we have to go back to see more of the bits we missed. Might have to check out the burger place in Trier as well, only saw the Amphitheater last year! Cheers
Yeah, I still feel as if I've not seen the half of that area... but I can't go back to the same place 3 years running. Can I? Hmm...
@@timrodierides I think you can.
You should also listen to the folks suggesting you lead a tour… Richy and Bruce do, so can you!
Very interesting and jarring … not being a history nut and being explained things in Lehman’s terms was interesting and pretty harrowing , thanks again for this mini series, as I may have mentioned I am going back to the bf again next year for the third time also including k town as a stop point, we probably won’t go down as far as Mulhouse this time, on a bike related question, I did my first tour on the mt10 sp and it killed my ass big time, how for you did the m seat compare to the mt10 seat? I am contemplating taking the superduke over this year but I also have a pan European which would be comfy but not as much fun and no cruise , I chopped my
V4 multi in for the superduke r ..
Excellent loved it even the history stuff 👍🏼
I’m absolutely loving your content, now settling down with a big cup of tea to no doubt enjoy this one. Happy New Year dude 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video, and like everyone else, I agree that this is really important history to keep alive, especially as the far right is getting disturbing traction here and there around the European region. I’ve also driven past Natzweiler many times with absolutely no clue as to its WWII history, so every day’s a school day.
Loved the rest of the video too, and yes, Trier looks rather nice.
I’ve never giggled passing Bitche. Ever. Absolutely not.
Really enjoyed this series. Well done Tim for not skipping the important historical content. So moving. So barbaric humans can do this to each other.
Isn't that the truth? At least we've learned from history… oh.
I watched a RUclips documentary on this camp and a few others but the story about the SOE agents and the furnace were so awful. They gave camp prisoners testimony about how they heard the screams and struggles as the agent think it was the last one was pushed into the furnace still alive and conscious very chilling to think of it. I believe from what they said they were all alive but three were more or less unconscious.
I enjoyed it history and all
Not too far from me...
Between Black Forest and Pfälzer Wald...
Hi Tim. I enjoyed this trip quite a bit and am planning on a trip in the car at some point. I may have missed it but have you put a route or accommodation recommendations anywhere?
All the best and thanks.
Hi! I haven't put a route up because I didn't really track it or plan it out. I just linked up the WW1 sites and followed my nose - sorry! As for accommodation, I mostly stayed at La Scierie in Lubine. It's on Airbnb or here: www.chambres-vosges.fr/
@@timrodierides That's great Tim. Thanks
Great series of Vlogs. Can I ask did you sort out the XT2. I'm on the cusp of buying either an XT or XT2. Which would you recommend? Thanks
Thanks! Garmin just replaced my XT2 and the new one hasn't had any problems - I've a feeling that its premature demise was caused by super-high frequency bar vibes from the M1000R. The one I've had since has been fine, but I've also not used it on that bike and I haven't done the same mileage with it yet, so it's too early to say. Bennett's Bike Social did a written review of one and they had the exact same problem as me, so I wonder if the very early review units sent to journalists had this problem, and they've maybe since fixed it?
@@timrodierides Thanks for the answer. Hmm I'm still undecided.
Tigers and Multistrada no GS’s 😮 are BMW losing ground ? Good Job I have the Tiger 1200 😂 wanted to thank you Tim, I definitely will put this region on my 2024 list 👍 so southern is better right ?
Yeah, the Southern bit around the Route des Cretes/Grand Ballon is my favourite bit
@@timrodierides thanks 🙏
Tim, your narrative style in these vlogs is top drawer- very entertaining. Ride safe.
Thank you Tim, really enjoying these vids. As a side note, my 2014 S1000R would regularly hit 260 km/h in what appeared to be a similar distance and time....and it was 165bhp...would've guessed more from the M?!...(I lived in Canada at the time around quiet rural roads 😇)
Its surprising that it was mainly old(er) people in the UK who would have memories of the war and its atrocities who voted for Brexit… the EU was set up to stop this ever happening ah]agin as its primary directive.
We have a short collective memory it seems! Sad isn't it?
Agreed. It seems to me it’s only younger people who have an interest in history understand this. Contemporary politicians don’t seem able to articulate the main purpose of the European project.
I’ve put a topbox, centre stand and the comfort seat on my ‘21 MT09SP and planning on doing something similar for a couple of weeks. As a fellow long person I’m slightly concerned about being in the wind for so long. Maybe i should give in to GS-dom. How miserable was the slog home?
The ride home was fine, just tedious! Normally I'd wiggle my way home from Trier along some reasonably fun Belgian roads, but I wanted to get back to pick my daughter up from nursery at 5pm, so that was my goal this time!
I’ll take a small slice of tedium in exchange for a nice trip. Enjoyed this series, cheers 👍🏻
I realise I should probably have commented on the profound history or the super-fast and capable BMW but oooh nice Uniqlo Nintendo shirt at ruclips.net/video/1XzMk1O84X4/видео.html
Haha I'm an insufferable gamer geek too...
Yogurt filled bread roll wtf? 🤣
mit Joghurt gefülltes Brötchen.
Danke
Apparently, the pronunciation of Brötchen is really important especially in down into Austria. Tried to get a bread roll one morning after missing hotel breakfast hours, ended up with a ham salad. There was a slice of bread underneath, so it tenuously met the bread brief, but with unexpected extras.
Would you ever consider organising a bike trip for like minded people ?
I would pay you the deposit now!
I'd love to - I have a day job to pay the childcare bills and mortgage at the moment but never say never...
@@timrodierides possibly on a chicken strips basis where you are able to tour for free and possibly turn a profit, might be something to ponder?
Thanks
Thanks very much - appreciate it!