‘Messi didn’t have the impact Yamal is having!’ How good is this Spain team? | ESPN FC
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Gab Marcotti and Julien Laurens breakdown Spain’s epic semi-final against France as they reflect on Spain’s squad selection as well as discuss Didier Deschamps future with les blue.
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whats more obvious is that spanish players are undervalued
and english players overrated, just look at transfermarket
Compare this young lad with Messi then his finished never will he go anywhere. Yamal is good at his age but do not ever compare him with the G.O.A.T
I think we are talking about comparing yamal age 16 euro 2024 with Messi age 18 WC2006.
Messi was compared to Maradona all the time. Was he finished? There's nothing wrong with comparisons, and if you can't handle it as a player, then your mentality is really poor.
They talked about many "new Messi", then time went by, all "new Messi" disappeared.
Gab is just so ignorant. Unai Simon won copa del rey this season. He has been excellent in euros and u are saying that he is bad. And he is better than donaruma btw.
Not better than Donnaruma, but certainly SO much better than he and most others make him out to be...
Bro is just luck unai is making deadly mistakes every game
@@Rafaa2111Donnarumma is one of, if not the most, overrated goalkeeper in Europe.
as a Spanish citizen and supporter, a GK that makes at least one serious mistake every game means we probably hadn't any GK better for the Euros.
Unai Simon is definitely a weakness for Spain. I mean he is an okay sweeper keeper good with his feet but he makes serious mistakes.
The only way Spain is going to lose this is if the game goes to penalty shootout
What on earth is Gab saying! No injured player, Gavi or whoever is breaking into this team easily. Gavi is definitely not benching Fabian Ruiz or Williams especially with the way both are playing. Cucurella has been the most consistent LB in the tournament, i don't care if he's had an average season. Every player in that team has been outstanding.
If Gavi was fit, he will definitely be a starter on this team. Nobody benches Gavi in Spain team bro, go do your research
You dont know what you're talking about . Having played ahead of the same Fabian ruiz for Spain. You don't know what you're talking about
Gavi don’t do bench
Dear ESPN,
Most of your subscribers are kids and not native English speakers and headlines like these easily triggers them.
What they are saying is, Messi at 16YEARS OLD didn’t have the same impact at national and club level. This is common sense! It doesn’t mean Yamal is better or WILL be better than Messi. Common sense guys!
Dear RUclips user,
ESPN knows that people are easily triggered. With that in mind, they drafted the kind of headline that can easily trigger people. Why you ask? One word; "engagement"
Glad to know everything works like it is meant to.
That is true, they also know what they're saying lol. And you know it too... it's called click bait
Messi fanboy
Nobody knew Messi at the age of 16-year-old
Messi was very hyped at 16...@@DB2024-k3l
@@DB2024-k3l There was no social media when Messi was 16 yrs
What he tried to say in min 8:30..."Spain's team A, compared to the other BIG countries, would be considered a team B and a half". A team like England, France, Portugal, Germany has bigger caliber or superstar players than Spains (except Rodri, Carvajal and Nacho)....I sort of agree
Una cosa es la teoría ( lo de que Alemania tiene súper estrellas , etc) y otra la práctica, la realidad…Inglaterra o Alemania tienen alguien mejor que Rodri?? Alemania tiene alguien mejor que Fabián? Alemania o Inglaterra tienen alguien mejor que Carvajal?? Tienen alguien mejor que Yamal???? Etc .. El problema es que una cosa es la fama , el marketing mediático que sobrevaloran a jugadores, pero luego en la práctica esos jugadores no superan ni en técnica a los jugadores españoles…. SE ha visto en los partidos la superioridad técnica de los jugadores españoles sobre ingleses, alemanes, franceses …
Its very unwise to make such statements. It would be an achievement for yamal to even have half the career messi has had.
I don't think it's possible for LAMINE to reach even half of what Messi achieved, Messi career wasn't just base on football and talent, big companies invested in Messi career and helped him get to certain points and get certain trophies, I do think you're right, the guy in the video is hurting lamine here more than he's helping him, maybe doing on it purpose or by mistake, but he's fishing for people to get outraged at his statement and start attacking lamine how dare you compare lamine career with Messi career, like a reverse psychology thing,
@@misteryoww5026 and also not Pele, Maradona, Ronaldo, Zidane...nobody played with as many elite teammates at their respective peak age for 12-15 seasons like Messi. And unlikely Yamal will get that either.
I wonder how many people said this after Pele.
Then after Don Diego.
But yet Messi came along. So why can't a more talented person come along?
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You're more invested in idolizing Messi than being optimistic about the future? Or is it something else?
Time will tell, still doesn't change the fact that Messi didn't do what Yamal has done at 16.
@@holymsophy well said. People become weak for idol worship. Remember many 80s folks who had a hard time letting go of Maradona as their GOAT despite watching Messi.
If Yamal goes on to have half the career Messi's had, he'd still be among the greatest players of all time. Half of Messi's career would still mean 400+ goals, 170+ assists, 20+ titles, 4 Ballon D'or, etc. Truly ridiculous.
Can these guys just celebrate this boy's brilliance without comparing him or mentioning him alongside Messi's credentials?
Petty! Just Petty!!
Absolutely
I don't know what these guys tried to say. Messi effected the game even he didn't do anything. The opponent team always has at least 3-4 players running around Messi to make sure Messi has no space. IF that's not the "impact", what is the "impact" a player has??!!
These guys are talking about a 16 year old Yamal against a 16 year old Messi who was kept as a jewl in la Masia because Barca had Ronaldinho; Etoo; Deco; Giuly and Argentina had Riquelme; Aimar and Crespo when Messi was at that age. What Barca and Spain has now??? It was need that forced them to push this kid in that it the difference @@ThuyNguyen-zi5jy
They have started 😢. Putting too much pressure on Yamal. No one I repeat can achieve what Messi has done in World Football. And I am a Ronaldo fan.
Extremely difficult, but not impossible. Yamal started very well, but we do not know where he will reach. I think people have a lot of hope with him, due to the completeness of his overall game. He is an allround player, and not just dependent on his pace like Mbappe and Vinicius.
He already, at the age of 17, know how to create plays through his passing and playmaking.
Messi took HGH and still wasn't this good at 16
@@hsafootballworld1321Messi is 10x better than Yamal. Yamal is a good player but let's keep things in perspective. Yamal will *never* achieve what Messi has achieved in world football. It's not "extremely difficult" because it won't happen.
@@user-bi4bb6cd9s Come on bro. Lamine, at the age of 17, is doing it better than what Messi did at the 18-19. So at the moment he is ahead of Messi. But there is no guarantee he will be able to sustain it when he grows older. Messi was too extreme from the age of 19-25. I personally feel, considering Lamine's age, his overall game is more mature and complete than Messi and Neymar at the same age. But dribbling wise Messi was twice as good as Lamine Yamal.
If Lamine is able to further polish his dribbling ability to take on players 1v1 and finish off chances. Then, I personally feel Lamine has what it takes to match or emulate Messi.
@@hsafootballworld1321 I realize your are on crack so I will take it easy. I recommend rehab asap. At no age level is Yamal even close to Messi. Messi was 1 of 1, a prodigious talent unlike anything seen before.
_"I've never seen anything like him as a 16 year-old,"_ said Capello
You're comparing Lamal to Messi, are in your right mind?! I cannot believe I am even replying to this nonsense. I blame myself
He'll be our Messi all over again.. Visca Barça 💙❤️🤘😂😂
GAB! Your point has changed at least 4 times on the spanish underdogs story lol
Gab got lost along the way 😂😂😂
Messi didn't have the impact because the taxi driver (who pretended to be a elite coach) Pekerman didn't play him in the 2006 WC tournament. When they screwed up their quarterfinal game against Germany, idiot Pekerman kept Messi on the bench while taking out his ESSENTIAL playmaker Riquelme from the field. Messi didn't have the impact because the braindead coach probably didn't think much of him. Let's be fair here with the statements and keep in mind what actually happened.
Was he 16 at that time?
@@GGM28 No, he was 19. But that was his first major tournament. He would have been 15 years old in 2002 World Cup. How could he have an impact if he didn't get playing time? He got his chance in the game against Serbia and scored immediately. Yamal is playing full minutes.
Let's not let facts get in the way of us making our points.
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Need a chair beside Gab? You 2 would get along.
Perkerman did underuse Messi at that World Cup to his detriment. That Germany game was screaming for someone like him to come on but he sadly left him on the bench
Such a good point. I watched a video about that game that claimed Messi didn't work in Pekerman's system because of Riquelme. But once he was off, why did Argentina need two strikers on the pitch when defending a 1-0 lead. No one would have been more perfect than a 19-YO Messi to player on the counter.
Rooney was 19 at Euros 2004.
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Yamal is the best 16 year old we have seen but let's not go overboard with the Messi statements
Messi was eating gummy bears playing PlayStation at 16
Mess at 16 was 10x than Yamal
@@user-bi4bb6cd9s playing XBOX
@@user-bi4bb6cd9s in XBOX
Did Gab Marcotti say "Declan Rice played for West Ham who won the World Cup, lets not forget that" because thats what it sounded like. Is he off his head? If he did then brain must have broke when jules challenged him on that many of those England players have won nothing. Harry Kane for example.
Conference league he meant
I heard the same thing. My brain just couldn’t stop trying to work it out or picture Declan Rice winning the World Cup with West Ham.
Remember pep , he said he had heard many many guys being compared to messi, and said the best is messi 😂😂😂
well hes wrong pele the best
Yeah, I mean Barca fans who know what Yamal can do. It isn't that much of a Suprise. The question is if he can keep his head during such a tournament. And when Barca starts playing attacking football, I think Yamal will thrive in such a situation. Defensive tactics aren't his best moments, thats why hes thriving
The era of science, every athlete helps model the design of the next athlete with mechanics and game play.
Whenever I have seen play Dano Olmo play for RB Leipzig, he has been the best player on the pitch.
Unlike Bellingham who was great for BVB against average teams, but was average against great teams.
I've said this very recently.
I've never seen him have a poor or quiet game.
And he always produces something.
Vamos great duo both are a joy to watch 💪🏽
I think all this Spanish players are very technically sound and can very pass the ball with accuracy and know how to run in spaces and equally knows when to take one or two touches
Whiles gabs is saying the truth, Jules is also being sincere.
It’s all about perspective. They all have points
The attacking forwards were missing in the French Team. They’re were very poor this tournament which consequently cost them the Euro final
Gab was giving props to Spainish team here . I think there’s misunderstanding here.
Spain players overcame adversity and now are playing best football. That’s what he meant I believe
Lets hope he will be as successful as Messi
Gab was on point when he was pointing out who each of the Spanish players were but Gab countered him so much that he got lost in defending himself. I totally understand what Gab was saying and totally agree with him.
Especially since he is so young, it is wise to be cautious. Baselessly high expectations have been the killers of many a carreer. As recent as one Ansu Fati.
This comparison is useless. Firstly, Messi is 10x better than Yamal. Secondly, there was no int'l tournament in the year Messi turned 16. Furthermore, the Barça side at that time was nowhere near the current one for him to break into as Yamal did with this one
was he better than yamal at 16
none of them touches the king anyway
@@chrisbennett6260 *YES* Messi was 1 of 1, a prodigious talent unlike anything ever seen before. Are you on drugs?!
@@chrisbennett6260 *YES* Messi was 1 of 1, a prodigious talent unlike anything ever seen before. Are you on drugs?!
@@user-bi4bb6cd9s you man there are clueless dread
, pele is number 1 and always will be when messi won three World Cups out of 4 come and see me yeah
Messi level is not about stats
You have to see him play to know why he is incomparable
As an avid la liga, barca and soain watcher, Gab is 100% correct. Nobody outside of spain believed in these players.
Juls missed Gabs point, let’s make it simple. Nobody had Spain as favorite after seeing their line up for the Euros, absolutely no one. Not only have they made it to the final with 100% win record, but they have also been the best team hands down.
7:38. The point isn't actually about winning but having the experience of holding your nerve when you have to win. Arsenal held their nerve for the last 6 games of the season because of contributions from great players like Rice and Saka and were a Son v. backup keeper away from winning the league, so you trust Saka and Rice in big moments even if they don't have a big trophy to back it up.
Get rid of Gab this dude always sounds so whiny and clueless its unlistenable
Jules is still salty from France loss
This guy is amazing
Messi was not playing for Barcelona A team 16, and football was different then and Messi played a pivotal role in changing the game. What is the point of this nonsense
Its amazing that people are being shocked that Nico is this good...... the boy was doing this all season long
Gab, as a fan of Spain, I tell you that what you say is not going to prevent The 3 Lions from having to run a lot on Sunday.
Es muy interesante y acertado lo que dice el de blanco, comeback kids, y frustrante ver cómo el de rojo le replica defendiéndolos sin entender su argumento. Estoy en el minuto 7:22 y no sé si seguir 😅
Only mad people can compare Messi and this boy
Spain 3-1
this is the first impression. Yamal is still very young and has a long way to go. Please don't compare Him with Messi
Gab is trying to say that Spain is jelling without saying it
Jules says Deschamps has made 4 semis in 5 tournaments and no one has ever done that before. ask yourself, did they overachieve or underachieve? because i'd say for every tournament since 2016, they've been the pre-tournament favorites. France have had the most talented team for the last decade almost and they have 1 World Cup to show for it. this has also been a period where other major countries have had down periods. Germany struggled for a long time, Italy have fallen off, Brazil aren't the powerhouse they once were, etc. so France could have won more if they'd had a better manager over the last decade. i think if Zidane or someone of that caliber was in charge, they have at least 1 Euros win in that time frame. and now they've confirmed Deschamps is staying until the next World Cup. so by the next Euros, if Zidane is finally in charge, i think a good portion of France's 2nd golden generation will have retired or aged-out (Griezmann, Kante, & Giroud won't even make the next World Cup). so as a France fan, i'm happy we got the 2018 World Cup, but we left a lot on the table, in my opinion.
sadly for me Brazil aint the powerhhouse they once were growing up with the 82 side as a boy were but with any luck it will be Brazil in the following World Cup and the stats bear some postive good omens and news for Brazil if they can build and get some momentum going
Can we just be happy to have Yamal as a Barca player? I’m sure Messi is happy the next generation of kids will take care of Barca for years to come :) he’s loves Barcelona he only wants what’s best for the club let the kids grow and not put more pressure. He is a delight to watch let’s take care of him
sure but players can peak early. we can only hope he does this for another 20 years
Stop already comparing them, It's nonsense...
If a day ends in Y, ESPN will use it shyt on Messi. Trust and believe.
This is a classic case of a French presenter not quite understanding English. It’s so funny to watch. He just doesn’t get the man’s point.
Lamine is already making better decisions than Dembele 😅 thanks for leaving!!!!
lol these two have short term memory when it comes to Messi.
Where was Messi at 16? Eating boogers
He was sniffing ronaldinhos jocks
not watching these fools but came here bc of the headline. Making such comments, there is only one absolute truth that will be revealed over time, the GOAT will be unmatchable from every fckin metric and at every fckin age...and without a shadow of a doubt, there hasnt been and there WONT be another player (in our lifetime) that has had/having the impact he is...
Took 2 minutes for Gabs point to fall flat.
😂😂😂😂 Messi didn't have impact .....!!Barcelona didn't require 16 years old yo help their team back then coz it was in good economics in and out of field!!
Let's ignore the part of him playing for Barcelona, the question is why is he performing better than any other player in the euros
Leave Messi out... Can never compare Messi to any player
Lauren you are talking rubbish. Starts comparing someone who is already successful like Messi and someone who is trying to be successful. In Messi era, it's so hard to get chance when you are 16.immagine Spain in 2008 to 2012, where was Yamal be playing in that squad? Nowadays we don't have world bitters, that's we keep praising,these kids
😂 nonsense argument. Messi at 16 had Eto’o, Ronaldinho Deci etc in front of him, whereas Yamal has Torres and Raphinha, of course Yamal gets more space 😂
They are not saying Yamal is better than Messi, they are saying he has a more pronounced head start (due to circumstances). They are not even similar players.
Social media wasn't even a thing when messi was his age...not even close bro
that goes for players even more that were decades before messi
Please don't compare this kid to Messi; let him play; grew and develop we shall assess his success after 10 to 15 years. Messi had the chance to play for Spain at young age; Messi did it for Argentina at youth level by winning the world cup then the Olympics. He couldn't play for senior team aged 16 because they had Aimar and Riquelme Please give Leo a break.
Take it easy with the hype…he just scored one goal. He is no Messi
Didn't really enjoy watching these two bicker for 10 minutes. Gab had a good point to make; Juls could let him make it instead of constantly interrupting and missing it.
Spain have been impressive this Euros with only one truly world class player, Rodri, and maybe Carjaval. The rest of the team are young, injury prone and/or inconsistent, or at the tail end of their careers. De la Fuente has done an impressive job or turning them into a real team.
Spain are far superior to England but I wouldn't be surprised if England defend stubbornly for the entire game and nick a goal at the end. Such are the margins in football.
It's hard for Gab to make a point because Jul don't understand were Gab is going whit it.
The point is you can be successful whit players that are not consider elite or world class players
Hats off De la Fonte
Putting unnecessary pressure on the young boy. Many have come this way but ended up not fulfilling their potential. Remember what happened to Ansu Fati.
Allow him to grow. This is so unnecessary
Wow. Gab is ranting…. Thanks juls for reeling him in.
Gab seems confused and unprepared in this segment. At times he is seemingly confusing himself with “the point” he is attempting to make
Waiting for pep comment😂😂
Gab is suffering the problem the English people suffer. Overestimating their ability and underestimating their opponents. Spanish players are better than English in terms of technical ability, they prove everytime they play. The fact that EPL is watched more than La Liga may have led to this myopia. Spanish teams have played 23 finals since 2002 (most of any country in Europe), they have won all of them. Spanish teams are still dominant in Europe (UCL, Women World Cup, Nations League, Euro). Spanish managers dominate European league, 3 of the top 4 teams in EPL last season were managed by Spanish managers, Bundesliga was won by a Spanish manager. Is that evidence enough for Gab?
Gab with all his knowledge surely does not realize that there is such a thing as exceptions? So if this works out, doe it really mean the talk about experience and winning mentality is somehow nonsense...based on this instance?
It's too early for the comparison now. I appreciate Lamine Yamal I love him for giving this impact for Spain I will love him improving day by day but if you compare Yamal to Messi there are areas that I don't believe Yamal will ever reach. There were so many comparisons been made and they disapeared. Lamine Yamal is just 16 and this is not what every player can do and Messi didn't make this impact during his 16 or 17 but football is already there in his gene. Why didn't he make when he was 16? He had health issue and as you know who and what type of players Barcelona had during that time. Who is Ronaldinho? Iniesta, Xavi, they were the best team in the world with too many top world class players they didn't give much to youth team. I mean if Messi was included in the first team even only when he was 14 he would have had the best player that time. You know now Barcelona has left nothing but to depend on youth system so they brought in Lamine Yamal who is blessed by Messi himself. No need to wonder too much who will be better but rewind yourself and see in the areas like drilling, passing and reading the game. I wish Yamal develop
The mumbling fool & jules show, gab is utterly clueless
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Gab trying so hard to sound ridiculous
I just hope it doesn't get to lamine yamals head and he stays humble. Look at Bellingham, he has become so arrogant that the other England players couldn't stand him
Juls under low wish mbappe was good as yamal juls wish mbappe was his husband
Shut up
Messi was sniffing ronadinhos as$ at 16 in a stacked barcelona team
These idiots start spitting idiotic statements and keep switching their opinions, hold on bro he's 16 let's just analyze his game rather than comparing him to anyone
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Why always bring up Messi? That’s how you put also pressure at young talents you guys or the media I should say has done this since Bojan times it’s enough we all have seen what happens after the rest is history
That is just how it is, Messi was also labelled as new Maradona back in 2005. The one who is meant to be a superstar and all time great will manage it despite the pressure generated from the comparisons.
I wasted 16:46 minutes of my life watching this & listening to irrelevant confusing statements. I don’t understand why I watch gabs & Jules or ESPN in general
Yamal is just an Arjen Robben type of player, nothing more.
Yamal at the age 16 has better football IQ and game awareness than Robben during his mid 20s.
Arjen Robben was awesome.
@@user-gy1pu3gq3d true but not at Messi's level.
and I think Yamal will not reach Arjen's level.
He's more like mahrez
Upgrade for cucurella? Really... these players you guys hype up n I can't see what it is they are doing..
Yamal and Nico have scored 1 goal each (as forwards) so far. Quite weak I would say but they have been steadily praised.....they dribble well and show it but they scored far too less goals. Olmo, not even a first team player and midfielder has scored 3 goals so far and almost nobody is talking about him. He, Rodri, Caravjal and Cucurella are the backbone of Spain...and Yamal and Nico are the showcase.
Yamal is the higher assist provider with 3 assists and all the goals he scored were very clutch. His decision making is fantastic,great passer,dazzler as a dribbler,he can shoot well too.
It’s not about goals and assists they are terrorising defense it’s not like Spain play wide out it’s possession based so they don’t play more one on one
@andrekoerber7334
PLEASE WATCH THE GAMES AND NOT JUST THE STATS!!!
Kid is good but he ain't got Messi's gift.
Juls is the worst pundit in the world, this is the same guy that criticized xavi and barcelona for debuting lamine during the early stages. Imagine his guts praising lamine without acknowledging his faults
Whatever kind of Drugs Gab is on,he is very high😂
The irony that a guy like Gab, who really knows zero about football makes a living of talking about football. I guess he could also work as a business consultant, the guys who know tomorrow why what they predicted yesterday didn't happen today
Gab just tries to say anything to bother people
This guy's drunk on coffee
I think Gabe is not good at hosting
Juls is absoutlely clueless i tell you who had a better impact than yamal pele did pele scored the winner in the quarter final ,scored a hatrick in the semis ,scored two in the World Cup final
at 17 years old so please shut up and get your facts right homie
Gab is lost 😂😂
I’ve always said mbape is overrated, once he have an opponent that can match his pace he always struggles, mbape in his prime could not shine in prime thiery Henry, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo and Messi’s era. Football is so water down now average players get too much hype
I haaaate the comparisons to Henry. Henry is the best player in PL history, a beautiful, graceful footballer who also had elite pace.
Juls start don't determine finish..or success
Why is Juls upset?
Juls is always salty, his France are playing for 3rd place and Mbappe is not getting him any bragging right. Haha
This guy is talking nonsense only
Yamal not that exciting.. like a messi ronaldo Maradona etc... Pele the 1 and only..
Gab is really annoying!!
No no, lets not do this. Messi is the best ever and to reach his heights is nearly impossible. Yamal can be an all time great but what Messi has done is incomparable. Yes records can be broken but Messi reached the bar too high and he also has 8 ballon dors.
I love Messi and he is everything you said about him. I agree with you.
But deep inside your heart you also know Messi did not deserve all of his Balon dOrs.
In my opinion, Messi should have won 6 Balon dOrs and not 8.
He won two undeserved Balon dOrs.
Time goes on, one day there will he a bigger better messi who can head the ball and shoot with both feet
@hsafootballworld1321 Wether it was a political/popular move done by FIFA for Messi to win the extra 2 ballon DOrs could be true but the reality is he still has them and even if you cancel the 2 extra ballons he has won everything there is to football, he has completed the game. The only thing he's missing is the "Super Ballon DOr" which is given every 3 decades or so, last and only one was given to Di Stefano in 1989. Next one should be handed out in 2029 and the main 3 candidates looks to be Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Ronaldo Nazario (Brazilian Ronaldo) but surely Messi will be awarded the award.
@@MarkoTiano I also believe Messi to be among top 3 footballers of all time alongside Pele and Maradona.
He has really completed football.
Messi's overall game was so complete. We will not see a player like Messi for a very long time. He had everything.
But, I just felt it was important to point out the two Balon dOrs which he did not deserve.
@hsafootballworld1321 I m not arguing that but he did win the World Cup then came to MLS and his start was great and surely that must count for something, I think his last ballon DOr he deserved. Also yes Maradona is my all time favorite, not so much Pele even though obviously he's a legend but I prefer Ronaldo Nazario over Pele.
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