Just to make it clear I made a video already where I go over the ÅÄÖ of the Finnish alphabet, that's why I didn't include it in this one! :) Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/vnsGvkLF2pE/видео.html
sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a method to log back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid forgot the login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@Patrick Adonis i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im trying it out atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
I did not find this session boring at all! In fact I really do appreciate your efforts to communicate. I am forever grateful to my English friend with the Finnish family who introduced me to your videos
that's how germans pronounce "ü" which is called " "Umlaut". I learned that in my German classes, i'm not a native german, i'm from east europe where about 50% of people speak Russian or other slavik language(s).
Okay another point I'd like to make (sorry for spamming the comments :P ) there's a little mistake in the video - for "to bake" the basic form is meant to be LEIPOA, so just ignore what I said. And feel better about your own Finnish since we all make mistakes, even me!! xD
April fools! Finnish pronunciation is the closest modern language to latin when pronounced. Just simply drop ALL all additional quirks to letters. Every single letter is both spelled and always pronounced one single way. In other words, if you were a newborn, a language where all lettera were always pronounced the same way, would be the easiest one to learn.
For saying the "R" sound saying the word butter over and over really fast is a helpful trick for some people. My Chinese cousin was able to roll his r once. It was a big deal for him. Kiitos!!!
I am native Turkish speaker and i am learning Finnish. Both languages have a lot in common so i can easly understand. -Attachments are coming to the end of words. -Pronounced as it written. -Words grow with the attachments they receive 😊 -Ü -Ö And i wanna say thank you becouse you are teaching Finnish very sweetly.
Finnish y is the same as French u, I guess. I struggled at first, but try pronouncing i while rounding your lips (like she said it can be explained like in the middle of i and u), then you'll get used soon.
The finnish alphabet: Common: a, d, e, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, r, s, t, u, v, y, ä, ö (Appear in everyday language) Uncommon: b, f (Appear in everyday language but not so often) Rare: c, w, å (Appear in a few loanwords, and names) Very rare: q, x, z (Appear in very few loanwords and names) Unofficial: š, ž (Not in the official alphabet, but are reccomended to use instead of sh, or zh in names. Also appear in very few words such as šakki (chess), but can be written as shakki. Also in the word šamaani (shaman) which can be written as shamaani.)
There is also à which is used to mean "a piece" in price lists. Of course most write it incorrectly as "'á". Google "á la" -"à la" and you'll see Finnish restaurants. Letter é is also used in names like Lasse Virén though leaving it out is not a major sin.
Learning how to pronounce R very well is important in Czech. We don't normally roll the R, but we also have "Ř" (R with a hat), which is a similar vibration as R, but the tongue is raised (a "raised alveolar non-sonorant trill"). That is really difficult, and even a large part of the native population struggles to learn it. To learn it properly, one has to learn to roll the R first. One common way to learn R is to say T D, like "teddy", on repeat, and gradually speed it up. The D in it often becomes clear R at speed, and one can start to roll it.
For native English speakers, the hardest thing about learning to roll or trill the R, is learning to pronounce an R-flavored sound with the tip of the tongue in the top half of the mouth. The English R is normally pronounced with the tongue pretty far away from the roof of the mouth. (It's difficult to explain. Linguists usually classify it as a retroflex approximant, but I think they're kind of grasping at straws. If anything, it's closer to being a vowel, albeit a weirdly atypical one. In fact, it forms diphthongs with any vowel that comes before it, which is something you don't normally expect most consonants to do. Maybe it's a glide, I don't know.) Anyway, the English R sound isn't possible to trill or roll, because the tongue isn't close enough to the top of the mouth, so the first step to learning how to pronounced a trilled or rolled R is to learn to pronounce a Latin-style R, with the tongue near the roof of the mouth.
Fun fact: The Finnish Alphabet is just like the Swedish alphabet, except that we have two extra additional letters: Ž and Š. So it would technically be A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z, Å, Ä, Ž, Š, Ö. Also, the W is also sometimes called, "kaksois-vee". So, for all intents and purposes (and mainly for all purposes), I call the W "kaksois-vee" and include the letters Ž and Š. The Ž and Š (both appear only 0.0001% of the time) are extremely rare. In fact, they are less common than the Å (which appears only 0.0002% of the time).
I still have trouble with Y, but I think it helps to practice Y along with U, O, and Ö to get comfortable with the difference. Also, another word to help with the Z is Fazer. Even though it doesn't start with Z, I also remember how to pronounce it. Plus, that chocolate is fantastic.
Knight of the Old Code I personally learned this way: You round your lips as though you're saying "ooh", but instead of saying "ooh", try to say "ee" instead without moving your lips.
As far as I've learned, to pronounce Finnish 'Y' you have to purse your lips while saying the letter 'E'(English 'E' or Finnish 'I'). If you start saying 'E' with normal unrounded lips and then progressively round/pucker your lips it will naturally start sounding like the Finnish 'Y'. Same with Finnish 'Ö', but from English 'E' in the word 'Elder'(or from Finnish 'E').
For Y, since it's close to the french 'U' Put your mouth in a 'O' form, as if you tried to pronounce a 'O', and pronounce a 'i' at the same time. It takes a while to get, but once you have it, its pretty straightforward
I have really enjoyed watching your videos over the past few years. Always so helpful! I do have a tip for explaining how to pronounce the back and front vowels, which I hope might be helpful. I think of the back vowels as "tongue depressor" vowels. You know how when you go to the doctor and he or she wants to look at your tonsils, so they tell you to say "aww" so that you're pulling your tongue down in the back? Well, the back A is like that. For the front ä you would just let your tongue relax, bringing it to the front of your mouth. It would be similar for the remaining back/front pairs. The Y is just a front U, if that makes sense.
Thank you for these videos!! I'm applying to study abroad in Finnish next year and I don't know anyone that speaks finnish so this is very, very helpful
I am a native English speaker who learned Turkish. The Turkish Ü sounds a lot like the Finnish Y. To learn this I thought about the U in the English word “turn”. Knowing that trick and listening to your explanation of the Finnish Y, it is very easy to learn to pronounce both accurately.
This is a great help! I'm just starting out learning Finnish, was tripping up on the difference between a and ä, as well as Y, so thank you for isolating those sounds!
Not a boring video! Especially when you have just started learning Finnish, and are confused about the nuances of sounds between English and Finnish. And you have a great personality for teaching this. As for the Y - I began taking a class last Monday, and the teacher said Y sounded like "oo" as the "ew" in New York. Hope that helps. But it is those R's that I am going to have to figure out, sounds much like the Spanish R's (which I didn't quite get right either).
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I'm glad I found these videos, been slowly going through them as my schedule allows. I've been doing the Finnish course on Duolingo since October and still feel like it's not sticking, which is weird because I used it for Welsh and it had me both reading and speaking in about a month where as I can read Finnish but can't recall words to speak it. Hopefully hearing an actually person instead of a robot voice will help progress things along. :D
I read this elsewhere for the letter Y: The best way to pronounce Y is to round your lips lightly as if to say "oo" as in shoo! but instead of pronouncing "oo" try to pronounce "ee" as in "fee" instead, still keeping your lips rounded. The resulting sound you make approximates to the Finnish Y sound.
Thank you so much for your lessons.We will move next month Finland.Your lessons are very usefull and you are very good teacher.I hope you will continue to make this kind of videos.
Thank you for this! I read a lot. And quite often the reading involves reading words in a language I do not know! I must say however, that I took Spanish in high school; and there are definite similarities between the 2 languages! I completely understand your attempt to explain the "r" sound. In Spanish, there is the single r, which is pronounced exactly the same as in English. But then there is the double rr which requires the speaker to roll their tongue! I know this in my brain. But just like you, to this day, I really have never gotten the hang of saying it with my mouth! :) Also, the w in Spanish is pronounced the exact same way as in Finnish: doble v! What is funny about the English pronunciation is that it is pronounced double u, although it is shaped like a double v! When you think about this discrepancy, we come to the conclusion that Spanish and Finnish have the correct pronunciation! How about that!
We have the same sound in Mandarin for finnish Y !!!!!! I can’t tell how happy am I right now Cuz in Taiwan when foreign friends asked my name I said 俞德 ㄩˋㄉㄜˊ Yu-De but none of them can pronounce the first character right (same sound in Finnish Y they always repeat saying U ) Finally got some western language can say my name corrected 🤣🤣
I FIND LEARNING FINNISH NORWEGIAN AND SWEDISH KIND OF WEIRD THEIR LANGUAGES BUT GIRLS THERE ARE EXTREMELY GEORGEOUS AND CUTE. MY MOTHER TONGUE IS SPANISH SINCE I AM FROM SUNNY MEXICO.
You are right about the way to pronounce Yy sound about the lips; you have to round the lips and compress them(?) I think, but it does not come out yet because you have to place your tongue close to the roof but in front, not center like most of the rounded vowel. As if you're going to pronounce ee or ea in some English words: feat, sheep, steep, sheet, meet, meat, ... But instead, you round your lips compressed.
Hello greetings from Costa Rica. Thank you very much for the video... Your way of saying the words makes it easier for me to learn the Finland language.
For me (as a Hungarian) this alphabet is not just easy, it is trivial. We have all these sounds (and more, but that’s another story). Except ‘s’ is written as ‘sz’, y as ‘ü’, and ‘z’ is ‘c’. Long vowels are written with “acute accent”, e.g. ‘aa’ = ‘á’, ‘ii’ = ‘í’ etc. and some of those long vowels have slightly different sounds. And furthermore your ‘ä’ and ‘e’ are considered as two kind of ‘e’ sound (which are not present in some dialects which has only one ‘e’, and are the same in writing), and fortunately my own dialect have these two ‘e’s, which are written as ‘e’ (Finnish ‘á’), and ‘ë’ (Finnish ‘e’) if somebody wants to emphasise the difference. Of course there are some subtle differences, like the sound of ‘d’. And as these languages are both Finno-Ugric it is kind of expected. However the common language existed about 3500 or 4000 years ago and since then they evolved in their separate ways! So how is it possible? And there’s other common features, like vowel harmony, etc. As Hungarian language does not have a close relative, it is fascinating to me to find these similarities.
Yy - the tip of your tongue is behind your lower front teeth, like English speakers say the letter 'e' or 'ee'. Your lips are saying 'oo' So your tongue and lips are saying two different vowels. Start with 'ee', note where your tongue is (and keep it there!), then make your lips say 'oo'
The tongue position is very important when pronouncing finnish vowels. So with the Y sound, your mouth is in same shape when you say U, but to say Y you stick your tongue to the front of your mouth, the tip of your tongue touch your bottom teeth, and with U you pull your toungue as back as you can! Sounding vowels and mowing your tongue in mouth front to back, you might hear the differences and understand what i'm trying to say! 😁 here's all the vowels that are said only changing the tongue position from back to front, or in case of E and I, you say E with more open mouth, and I with more closed mouth. it takes bit of practice to get the vowel sounds right, but when you do, you can basically read finnish! A=Ä O=Ö U=Y E=I I hope this is helpful in any way to somebody! cheers!
It seems that Finnish sounds as it's written, just like Spanish. Most of the vowel sounds and the rolling R are exactly the same in both languages as well.
As a Finn who’s English pronunciation is really good, I can’t quite understand how some sounds are so hard to make for some people, if you can sing at all, you should be able to mimic sounds well enough to be able to speak a word of almost any language But, did you intentionally say leivota?? I don’t know if it’s just my accent but it sounds soo wrong But it might be easier to understand?
It's totally like hearing Hungarian, but with a twist. The twist is that I don't understand a word out of it. All the letters are pronounced the same as Hungarian letters.
Yea, I've heard that for a Finn traveling to Hungary or vice-versa, the language will sound extremely familiar. Hearing peoples every day conversations as kind of an ambient sound, where you aren't close enough to really hear the differences in words, the similar rhythm and melody of the speaking has sometimes even fooled them into thinking there are some fellow Hungarians/Finns speaking. But if they get close to the people speaking and actually hear what they are talking they then realize the words are completely different. Definitely have to visit Hungary some day to see if I can experience the same!
3:33 I have always thought of rolling the R almost like a very light D sound. If you just flip it once instead of letting it roll for several “flutters,” it’s going to sound like a D. so I imagine when up to a fluent speed you would probably hear it very similarly. If you can’t roll it then any double r’s will probably be difficult however.
The "y" sound is funny 'cause it's exactly the same as the "u" in French, but almost no other language has this sound (as far as I know). I noticed that almost all the non-French I met didn't manage to pronounce this French "u"/Finnish "y". They pronounce it like a Spanish or Finnish "u". And in French "y" is pronounced the same way as "i", like a Finnish "i".
I've never really had any problems pronouncing the Finnish y, since we have the same sound in my native language, but I think the reason why some people say it is inbetween an i and a u is because the y is pretty much just a rounded i (make a circle with your lips), compare it to e and ö, where rounding is the difference. So if you are having trouble with the Finnish y just try to say i while slowly rounding your lips more and more, and you should get an y-like sound. Hopefully that made sense.
The Yy sound comes from your throat I guess, I had no problems with it, Also the R in Finnish wasn't such a hussle as I thought it'd be since I can make that sound, We have that R in Spanish, Dude I feel like a have a huge advantage compared to other native speakers
You should have started with the logical simplicity of Finnish like duration: one letter = short sound, two letters = long sound. 👌 And stress is always on the first syllable: HELsinki, not helSINki… Letters are pronounced practically the same independent of surrounding letters unlike in English or French who have little respect for letters or even Swedish, German… 😏 The exceptions are pairs: nk and ng which are the same as in English because there’s no letter for that phoneme.🤔
The reason why French or English have a pronunciation very different from the script (they have "non-phonetical scripts") is because they have a very old literary tradition, which implies that the script USED TO BE pronounced quite phonetically at some point (in Middle French or Middle English for example), but it was fixed early then, while the phonetics orally were still moving (as in every language). The fact that the Finnish script is quite recent explains why it fits so well with its actual pronunciation (the same with Turkish = it was made by linguists to match perfectly). All of this to explain it is silly to say such a phenomenon is having "little respect for letters", it is just having respect for the living and actual aspect of the language rather than stick to obsolete diction just because it is still written this way.
I was watching the videos of a certain Finnish public figure. I noticed that they pronounce the english "oo" (like "food", "good", etc) like the Finnish "y". Is this a common thing to do?
For 'Y' Ы for Russian language and Cyrillic script languages speakers 'U' For French Speakers In detail:- stretch your lower lip outwards,let your upper lip rest and try to speak 'U'.
I guess the "Y" pronunciation it's similar to the sound of French "u": you put your lips like if you want to pronounce an "u" but you pronounce an "i", well, that might function for latin people 😊 thanks for the video! !!
Y has the sound of an unstressed E in French. Similar to A in the English word sof*a*. Or if you are a Bulgarian, Ъ is a complete analog for this sound. As for a word with X in Finnish - Xerox. You already know what it means. As for Q, there is also Quebec.
Re. the R: I have never been able to trill that well, either. However, one tip that one of my school teachers gave was to simply make it sound like a d and that works well for me.
Little help with the *Y*plsinon sound: It's like you're saying U but you say I. Or it's the same as in german U with the dots above it. Mouth like you're saying U but says I= Y
hi katchats! your videos are so helpful!! keep it up! me and my best friend are going to go to finland and i am a beginner at learning finnish.. could you maybe do more videos on the basics?
Almost the same pronunciation as Vietnamese alphabet which helps me a lot while learning . And Finnish words are pronounce exactly how it's written. But the grammars are freaking hard
Finnish actually has two versions of Z, Z and Ž. The latter is used just to write Russian names like Ždanov. Similarly there are S and Š. There actually is at least one word that uses Š: šakki (chess). IMO it should be written as "sakki" but that means a group of people. Until recently it was very hard to produce those with a computer and they still are not part of the default Window layout.
I have some speech defect, because I can't to say "rrrrr" correctly. In my case it sounds like something between 'L' and 'r'. Sometimes I can't, but sometimes I am able to say 'rrr', when I try hard. Is it possible to be completely understandable by Finnish people, in my case? I 'm worried a little about that. I always wonder if my speech is too weird or simply embarrassing. Even I my country I come from (Poland).
Just to make it clear I made a video already where I go over the ÅÄÖ of the Finnish alphabet, that's why I didn't include it in this one! :) Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/vnsGvkLF2pE/видео.html
KatChats thanks u teach me the alphabet and i am stil learning katchat
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sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a method to log back into an Instagram account..?
I was stupid forgot the login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@Patrick Adonis i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im trying it out atm.
Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
for the R , just say PERRRRRRRRRKELE
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One of the few words people want to know in Finnish lol
Time for a nice coffee break. Mmm kafeaaaa
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WHOOOO!
I did not find this session boring at all! In fact I really do appreciate your efforts to communicate. I am forever grateful to my English friend with the Finnish family who introduced me to your videos
Pronouncing “i” sound with your mouth shaped like “u” sound enables you to pronounce “y” sound!
that's how germans pronounce "ü" which is called " "Umlaut". I learned that in my German classes, i'm not a native german, i'm from east europe where about 50% of people speak Russian or other slavik language(s).
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wow thanks!!
makes sense.
Okay another point I'd like to make (sorry for spamming the comments :P ) there's a little mistake in the video - for "to bake" the basic form is meant to be LEIPOA, so just ignore what I said. And feel better about your own Finnish since we all make mistakes, even me!! xD
How did you even came up with this bew form :D
thnks. it's sound like a piece of cake. jumping to vocabulary.
The Finnish "Y" is pronounced like the french "U" :)
Amélia Daguet it's almost like the Danish y as well.
And the Dutch u, too!
Yesss
And the German ü
April fools!
Finnish pronunciation is the closest modern language to latin when pronounced. Just simply drop ALL all additional quirks to letters. Every single letter is both spelled and always pronounced one single way. In other words, if you were a newborn, a language where all lettera were always pronounced the same way, would be the easiest one to learn.
For saying the "R" sound saying the word butter over and over really fast is a helpful trick for some people. My Chinese cousin was able to roll his r once. It was a big deal for him. Kiitos!!!
I am native Turkish speaker and i am learning Finnish. Both languages have a lot in common so i can easly understand.
-Attachments are coming to the end of words.
-Pronounced as it written.
-Words grow with the attachments they receive 😊
-Ü
-Ö
And i wanna say thank you becouse you are teaching Finnish very sweetly.
You do understand spain,italian languages?
For French people (like me), it's easy to pronounce the Finnish 'Y' letter because it sounds like the French 'U' (but slightly open).
I want finnish grammar videos next! :D
Thank you Kat! c:
Finnish y is the same as French u, I guess.
I struggled at first, but try pronouncing i while rounding your lips (like she said it can be explained like in the middle of i and u), then you'll get used soon.
In many parts of Scotland we pronounce the oo sound like your y, so we would have no problem with it. For German speakers it is like u+umlaut.
Which language is easier to learn Is it Finnish language or German language
The finnish alphabet:
Common: a, d, e, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, r, s, t, u, v, y, ä, ö
(Appear in everyday language)
Uncommon: b, f
(Appear in everyday language but not so often)
Rare: c, w, å
(Appear in a few loanwords, and names)
Very rare: q, x, z
(Appear in very few loanwords and names)
Unofficial: š, ž
(Not in the official alphabet, but are reccomended to use instead of sh, or zh in names. Also appear in very few words such as šakki (chess), but can be written as shakki. Also in the word šamaani (shaman) which can be written as shamaani.)
There is also à which is used to mean "a piece" in price lists. Of course most write it incorrectly as "'á". Google "á la" -"à la" and you'll see Finnish restaurants. Letter é is also used in names like Lasse Virén though leaving it out is not a major sin.
I started learning Finnish from today on 23rd December from Russia, thanks to you Katya for your tutorials
Kiitos! Glad to hear it and hope it goes well!
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Learning how to pronounce R very well is important in Czech. We don't normally roll the R, but we also have "Ř" (R with a hat), which is a similar vibration as R, but the tongue is raised (a "raised alveolar non-sonorant trill"). That is really difficult, and even a large part of the native population struggles to learn it. To learn it properly, one has to learn to roll the R first.
One common way to learn R is to say T D, like "teddy", on repeat, and gradually speed it up. The D in it often becomes clear R at speed, and one can start to roll it.
For native English speakers, the hardest thing about learning to roll or trill the R, is learning to pronounce an R-flavored sound with the tip of the tongue in the top half of the mouth. The English R is normally pronounced with the tongue pretty far away from the roof of the mouth. (It's difficult to explain. Linguists usually classify it as a retroflex approximant, but I think they're kind of grasping at straws. If anything, it's closer to being a vowel, albeit a weirdly atypical one. In fact, it forms diphthongs with any vowel that comes before it, which is something you don't normally expect most consonants to do. Maybe it's a glide, I don't know.) Anyway, the English R sound isn't possible to trill or roll, because the tongue isn't close enough to the top of the mouth, so the first step to learning how to pronounced a trilled or rolled R is to learn to pronounce a Latin-style R, with the tongue near the roof of the mouth.
Your videos are so helpful for me who work in Finland and doesn’t speak Finnish much. Thank you so much.
I’m so glad to hear that thank you!
Just a small mistake: "Leivota" is not a word. To bake is "leipoa" on Finnish
Joo vahingossa sanoin tollein 😅
Fun fact: The Finnish Alphabet is just like the Swedish alphabet, except that we have two extra additional letters: Ž and Š. So it would technically be A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z, Å, Ä, Ž, Š, Ö. Also, the W is also sometimes called, "kaksois-vee". So, for all intents and purposes (and mainly for all purposes), I call the W "kaksois-vee" and include the letters Ž and Š. The Ž and Š (both appear only 0.0001% of the time) are extremely rare. In fact, they are less common than the Å (which appears only 0.0002% of the time).
I still have trouble with Y, but I think it helps to practice Y along with U, O, and Ö to get comfortable with the difference.
Also, another word to help with the Z is Fazer. Even though it doesn't start with Z, I also remember how to pronounce it. Plus, that chocolate is fantastic.
Fazer chocolate really is fantastic xD
Knight of the Old Code
I personally learned this way:
You round your lips as though you're saying "ooh", but instead of saying "ooh", try to say "ee" instead without moving your lips.
kiitos,
Y is worth practising. It really pays the price.
As far as I've learned, to pronounce Finnish 'Y' you have to purse your lips while saying the letter 'E'(English 'E' or Finnish 'I'). If you start saying 'E' with normal unrounded lips and then progressively round/pucker your lips it will naturally start sounding like the Finnish 'Y'. Same with Finnish 'Ö', but from English 'E' in the word 'Elder'(or from Finnish 'E').
For Y, since it's close to the french 'U'
Put your mouth in a 'O' form, as if you tried to pronounce a 'O', and pronounce a 'i' at the same time. It takes a while to get, but once you have it, its pretty straightforward
I think Finland is a beautiful Country. I would like to learn finnish. You're Videos, that I have seen so far, were really helpful! Kiitos😁❤
Aww thank you so much/Kiitos!!
I have really enjoyed watching your videos over the past few years. Always so helpful! I do have a tip for explaining how to pronounce the back and front vowels, which I hope might be helpful. I think of the back vowels as "tongue depressor" vowels. You know how when you go to the doctor and he or she wants to look at your tonsils, so they tell you to say "aww" so that you're pulling your tongue down in the back? Well, the back A is like that. For the front ä you would just let your tongue relax, bringing it to the front of your mouth. It would be similar for the remaining back/front pairs. The Y is just a front U, if that makes sense.
Thank you for these videos!! I'm applying to study abroad in Finnish next year and I don't know anyone that speaks finnish so this is very, very helpful
How was it? I'm planning to study in Finland
Where Do You live / which Country ?
Thanks, my mother tongue is spanish but i started to study finnish from english but the pronunciation of many words becomes easier from spanish.
I am a native English speaker who learned Turkish. The Turkish Ü sounds a lot like the Finnish Y. To learn this I thought about the U in the English word “turn”. Knowing that trick and listening to your explanation of the Finnish Y, it is very easy to learn to pronounce both accurately.
Because Finnish and Turkish same language family 'Ural -Altai' some words same
@@erdemuysal4897 isn't Turkish part of the turcic language family?
@@btce9739 Main line Ural - Altai
Turcic
Turkish
Uzbek .
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@@btce9739 Ural
Fin- ugor
Estonish
Humgarian
@@erdemuysal4897 the concept of an Ural-Altaic language family is very controversial, at least Wikipedia says so.
This is a great help! I'm just starting out learning Finnish, was tripping up on the difference between a and ä, as well as Y, so thank you for isolating those sounds!
Glad it was helpful!
Hauska tavata! Thanks for the straightforward video! I started my journey of learning Finnish a week ago and I'm lovin it! Cheers from Brazil
Hi! That's amazing, I wish you the best with your language learning journey! I'm glad my video was helpful! ^-^
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Not a boring video! Especially when you have just started learning Finnish, and are confused about the nuances of sounds between English and Finnish. And you have a great personality for teaching this. As for the Y - I began taking a class last Monday, and the teacher said Y sounded like "oo" as the "ew" in New York. Hope that helps. But it is those R's that I am going to have to figure out, sounds much like the Spanish R's (which I didn't quite get right either).
Thanks for taking the time to comment :) glad it’s not boring and that’s a good tip!
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To pronounce y, say i; then, keeping the tongue in that position, round the lips to say u. The position of the tongue is what makes the vowel.
I'm glad I found these videos, been slowly going through them as my schedule allows. I've been doing the Finnish course on Duolingo since October and still feel like it's not sticking, which is weird because I used it for Welsh and it had me both reading and speaking in about a month where as I can read Finnish but can't recall words to speak it. Hopefully hearing an actually person instead of a robot voice will help progress things along. :D
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This was excellent! I was really struggling with pronouncing the “y” but after saying it a couple times with this video I got it. Thank you!
I'm so glad to hear that! Thank you for watching! ^-^
Finish grammar, verbs, adjectives, adverbs, etc. Simply speaking, put everything on table.
Finish Line vs Finnish Line - could You finish Your first Finnish line !
On the “Y” I was taught to make an “oo” shape with my mouth and then try to say a little i sound (as in “it”) through the o shape
I read this elsewhere for the letter Y:
The best way to pronounce Y is to round your lips lightly as if to say "oo" as in shoo! but instead of pronouncing "oo" try to pronounce "ee" as in "fee" instead, still keeping your lips rounded. The resulting sound you make approximates to the Finnish Y sound.
Thank you so much for your lessons.We will move next month Finland.Your lessons are very usefull and you are very good teacher.I hope you will continue to make this kind of videos.
Awsome teacher. In Albanian language is also RR and Y, people find difficult to pronounce these!
Thank you for this! I read a lot. And quite often the reading involves reading words in a language I do not know! I must say however, that I took Spanish in high school; and there are definite similarities between the 2 languages! I completely understand your attempt to explain the "r" sound. In Spanish, there is the single r, which is pronounced exactly the same as in English. But then there is the double rr which requires the speaker to roll their tongue! I know this in my brain. But just like you, to this day, I really have never gotten the hang of saying it with my mouth! :) Also, the w in Spanish is pronounced the exact same way as in Finnish: doble v! What is funny about the English pronunciation is that it is pronounced double u, although it is shaped like a double v! When you think about this discrepancy, we come to the conclusion that Spanish and Finnish have the correct pronunciation! How about that!
That is really interesting! Thank you for taking the time to share :D
I like how you articulate. Your method is very helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you :)
This is helpful. My hispanic/latin heritage inevitably forces me to pronounce and articulate vocals which makes my accent show up.
I'm glad you found this helpful! :)
Wow, the finnish alphabet is really familiar to an italian speaker. I would have never thought that.
Most of the letters are pronounced the same!
We have the same sound in Mandarin for finnish Y !!!!!!
I can’t tell how happy am I right now
Cuz in Taiwan when foreign friends asked my name
I said 俞德 ㄩˋㄉㄜˊ Yu-De but none of them can pronounce the first character right (same sound in Finnish Y they always repeat saying U )
Finally got some western language can say my name corrected 🤣🤣
+宋俞德 hahaha wow that's awesome ! Maybe Finnish people can pronounce your name then :p
@@KatChatsFinnish In albanian Y is also pronounced the Finnish Y
it's the same for the other Scandinavian countries.
Same in german. Y is sounding like Ü, which is similar pronounced like finnish Y.
I FIND LEARNING FINNISH NORWEGIAN AND SWEDISH KIND OF WEIRD THEIR LANGUAGES BUT GIRLS THERE ARE EXTREMELY GEORGEOUS AND CUTE.
MY MOTHER TONGUE IS SPANISH SINCE I AM FROM SUNNY MEXICO.
We look forward to learn more Spanish ! You have the best beaches & The Sun ! Hasta Lluego
great. i like to learn a language starting from the alphabet. and you teach well.
You are right about the way to pronounce Yy sound about the lips; you have to round the lips and compress them(?) I think, but it does not come out yet because you have to place your tongue close to the roof but in front, not center like most of the rounded vowel. As if you're going to pronounce ee or ea in some English words: feat, sheep, steep, sheet, meet, meat, ... But instead, you round your lips compressed.
really great, Hope I can master this lang soon.
such a good video for us absolute beginners!! Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Hello
greetings from Costa Rica.
Thank you very much for the video...
Your way of saying the words makes it easier for me to learn the Finland language.
your tutorial is well done I think , thank you
Thank you so much!
For me (as a Hungarian) this alphabet is not just easy, it is trivial. We have all these sounds (and more, but that’s another story). Except ‘s’ is written as ‘sz’, y as ‘ü’, and ‘z’ is ‘c’. Long vowels are written with “acute accent”, e.g. ‘aa’ = ‘á’, ‘ii’ = ‘í’ etc. and some of those long vowels have slightly different sounds. And furthermore your ‘ä’ and ‘e’ are considered as two kind of ‘e’ sound (which are not present in some dialects which has only one ‘e’, and are the same in writing), and fortunately my own dialect have these two ‘e’s, which are written as ‘e’ (Finnish ‘á’), and ‘ë’ (Finnish ‘e’) if somebody wants to emphasise the difference. Of course there are some subtle differences, like the sound of ‘d’. And as these languages are both Finno-Ugric it is kind of expected. However the common language existed about 3500 or 4000 years ago and since then they evolved in their separate ways! So how is it possible? And there’s other common features, like vowel harmony, etc. As Hungarian language does not have a close relative, it is fascinating to me to find these similarities.
The R in Finnish is like the R in Spanish (I noticed), Native-Spanish-Speaker though
I learned without any trouble. thank you.
Yy - the tip of your tongue is behind your lower front teeth, like English speakers say the letter 'e' or 'ee'. Your lips are saying 'oo' So your tongue and lips are saying two different vowels. Start with 'ee', note where your tongue is (and keep it there!), then make your lips say 'oo'
The tongue position is very important when pronouncing finnish vowels. So with the Y sound, your mouth is in same shape when you say U, but to say Y you stick your tongue to the front of your mouth, the tip of your tongue touch your bottom teeth, and with U you pull your toungue as back as you can! Sounding vowels and mowing your tongue in mouth front to back, you might hear the differences and understand what i'm trying to say! 😁 here's all the vowels that are said only changing the tongue position from back to front, or in case of E and I, you say E with more open mouth, and I with more closed mouth. it takes bit of practice to get the vowel sounds right, but when you do, you can basically read finnish!
A=Ä
O=Ö
U=Y
E=I
I hope this is helpful in any way to somebody! cheers!
Did I miss the vowels? They seemed to be passed over quickly. Is there a different video for vowels?
Could you please write the words in the middle of frame, because the translation comes overlapping original one. :), Love from Nepal !
It seems that Finnish sounds as it's written, just like Spanish. Most of the vowel sounds and the rolling R are exactly the same in both languages as well.
As a Finn who’s English pronunciation is really good, I can’t quite understand how some sounds are so hard to make for some people, if you can sing at all, you should be able to mimic sounds well enough to be able to speak a word of almost any language
But, did you intentionally say leivota??
I don’t know if it’s just my accent but it sounds soo wrong
But it might be easier to understand?
It's totally like hearing Hungarian, but with a twist.
The twist is that I don't understand a word out of it.
All the letters are pronounced the same as Hungarian letters.
Yea, I've heard that for a Finn traveling to Hungary or vice-versa, the language will sound extremely familiar. Hearing peoples every day conversations as kind of an ambient sound, where you aren't close enough to really hear the differences in words, the similar rhythm and melody of the speaking has sometimes even fooled them into thinking there are some fellow Hungarians/Finns speaking. But if they get close to the people speaking and actually hear what they are talking they then realize the words are completely different. Definitely have to visit Hungary some day to see if I can experience the same!
3:33 I have always thought of rolling the R almost like a very light D sound. If you just flip it once instead of letting it roll for several “flutters,” it’s going to sound like a D. so I imagine when up to a fluent speed you would probably hear it very similarly. If you can’t roll it then any double r’s will probably be difficult however.
Not boring at all, it's a perfect video!!! Kiitos!
Yay Kiitos!
The "y" sound is funny 'cause it's exactly the same as the "u" in French, but almost no other language has this sound (as far as I know). I noticed that almost all the non-French I met didn't manage to pronounce this French "u"/Finnish "y". They pronounce it like a Spanish or Finnish "u".
And in French "y" is pronounced the same way as "i", like a Finnish "i".
Robin Gueguen the finnish y is very similar to the german ü
y is like u in French and ü in German and I noticed that it's also y in Danish but I'm not sure
The Frøst Dragøn
Yes, it's also the "y" in Danish, swedish, Norwegian, and probably Icelandic.
Turkish has ü sound too. Also they are in same language family (ural-altay)
Actually the French u is bit different more closed; And the exact same sound exist in tunisian arabic not in arabic.
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the video, it helps me a lot. I just started to learn two days ago.
I've never really had any problems pronouncing the Finnish y, since we have the same sound in my native language, but I think the reason why some people say it is inbetween an i and a u is because the y is pretty much just a rounded i (make a circle with your lips), compare it to e and ö, where rounding is the difference. So if you are having trouble with the Finnish y just try to say i while slowly rounding your lips more and more, and you should get an y-like sound. Hopefully that made sense.
Great tips!
thank you!
It's like the German ü, which is made like trying to squeeze ue in "blue" really close together through pursed lips.
Sorry, I meant the Finnish "y". Sorry.
O 2:42 6:47
U 4:01 6:53
Y 4:47 6:56
Thgank you for the good video. May I suggest that the letters appear on screen as you pronounce the whole alphabet at the end?
Y in Finnish is pronounced exactly the same as ü in Chinese pinyin... not really an advice but I find it quite interesting.
I figured a Y is like a polite cough or sort of like a puff of air. Does that make sense?
loved this!
thank you!
This probably isn't very helpful in english, but it does sound almost exactly like the german "ü" which helps me a lot
Yes, you pronounce clearly that I can get all words ; I really like this video.
The Yy sound comes from your throat I guess, I had no problems with it, Also the R in Finnish wasn't such a hussle as I thought it'd be since I can make that sound, We have that R in Spanish, Dude I feel like a have a huge advantage compared to other native speakers
You should have started with the logical simplicity of Finnish like duration: one letter = short sound, two letters = long sound. 👌
And stress is always on the first syllable: HELsinki, not helSINki…
Letters are pronounced practically the same independent of surrounding letters unlike in English or French who have little respect for letters or even Swedish, German… 😏
The exceptions are pairs: nk and ng which are the same as in English because there’s no letter for that phoneme.🤔
Are there no exceptions for the first syallable stress? Some langauges have grammar rules with a few exceptions.
@@cosmiceggs2385 There are no exeptions.
Haven't really ever tought of that but that's how it is when you think of it.
And also, there is one (or two) exception(s) for that the letters are always pronounced the same: ng and nk.
The reason why French or English have a pronunciation very different from the script (they have "non-phonetical scripts") is because they have a very old literary tradition, which implies that the script USED TO BE pronounced quite phonetically at some point (in Middle French or Middle English for example), but it was fixed early then, while the phonetics orally were still moving (as in every language). The fact that the Finnish script is quite recent explains why it fits so well with its actual pronunciation (the same with Turkish = it was made by linguists to match perfectly). All of this to explain it is silly to say such a phenomenon is having "little respect for letters", it is just having respect for the living and actual aspect of the language rather than stick to obsolete diction just because it is still written this way.
I'd like to learn about the cases next please
I was watching the videos of a certain Finnish public figure. I noticed that they pronounce the english "oo" (like "food", "good", etc) like the Finnish "y". Is this a common thing to do?
I guess maybe some people say it like that. Some people also say it more like: fuud, guud. I think there are quite a lot of Finnish accents xD
For 'Y'
Ы for Russian language and Cyrillic script languages speakers
'U' For French Speakers
In detail:- stretch your lower lip outwards,let your upper lip rest and try to speak 'U'.
As a native Hungarian speaker with English speaking ability, this language should be easy as heck to learn.
Hogy állsz vele azóta?
I am an American who is undertaking this language for a challenge, and I am visiting Finland in summer! Thank you!
I read in one book that "w" Finns pronaunce like "kaksois ve"
That's the actual way it's supposed to be said, but it's normal to use "tuplavee". Tupla and kaksois mean almost the same
Excelente saludos
I guess the "Y" pronunciation it's similar to the sound of French "u": you put your lips like if you want to pronounce an "u" but you pronounce an "i", well, that might function for latin people 😊 thanks for the video! !!
I found it very helpful as a beginner. Thanks
I'm so glad, kiitos for watching! :)
Y has the sound of an unstressed E in French.
Similar to A in the English word sof*a*.
Or if you are a Bulgarian, Ъ is a complete analog for this sound.
As for a word with X in Finnish - Xerox. You already know what it means. As for Q, there is also Quebec.
Another lovely and really useful video. Thanks!!!
Interesting it's almost 100% Spanish. Specially the R. But some letter for example "X" is AX in Spanish is EX. You says AR, instead of ERRE
Re. the R: I have never been able to trill that well, either. However, one tip that one of my school teachers gave was to simply make it sound like a d and that works well for me.
Little help with the *Y*plsinon sound: It's like you're saying U but you say I. Or it's the same as in german U with the dots above it. Mouth like you're saying U but says I= Y
Y is like the U in 'Dude' and Ö is like a how a Surfer says the U in Dude.
It's a simple video but it's the one I have returned to countless times. And I shall be back again, I'm sure...
Glad it's been useful :)
Hatja, the Finnish "y-sound" is like English "ew" in the words "new" and "knew" or the same as the French "u".
sorry to correct but "ew" is different from "u" ^^
Wendy Who french u not english u
hi katchats! your videos are so helpful!! keep it up! me and my best friend are going to go to finland and i am a beginner at learning finnish.. could you maybe do more videos on the basics?
Almost the same pronunciation as Vietnamese alphabet which helps me a lot while learning . And Finnish words are pronounce exactly how it's written. But the grammars are freaking hard
the "Z" is like the letter "Ц" in Russian, it sound's like a hard version of the letter "C" in "Center"
Finnish actually has two versions of Z, Z and Ž. The latter is used just to write Russian names like Ždanov. Similarly there are S and Š. There actually is at least one word that uses Š: šakki (chess). IMO it should be written as "sakki" but that means a group of people. Until recently it was very hard to produce those with a computer and they still are not part of the default Window layout.
I have some speech defect, because I can't to say "rrrrr" correctly. In my case it sounds like something between 'L' and 'r'. Sometimes I can't, but sometimes I am able to say 'rrr', when I try hard. Is it possible to be completely understandable by Finnish people, in my case? I 'm worried a little about that. I always wonder if my speech is too weird or simply embarrassing. Even I my country I come from (Poland).
Yes! There are even some Finns that aren't able to say the hard r, it's called an ärrävika. People will be able to understand you just fine! :)
The way I remember “Yy” in Finnish is that its pronunciation is the same as the vowel “ü” in Mandarin Chinese😁
Sorry but isn’t it “leipoa” not “leivota”? 2:17 Otherwise awesome and very informative video!
Hahaha yes it is, I wrote a comment to correct it but I guess not everyone sees it xD But thanks!